FACT CHECK: Only Conservatives Have Made Up Their Minds About Alito
FACT CHECK: Only Conservatives Have Made Up Their Minds About Alito
Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) yesterday complained that some senators on the Senate Judiciary Committee have already decided to vote against Alito:
I do think that there are those who have already decided to vote against your nomination and are looking for some reason to do so.
But not a single senator in the hearings has said he or she plans to vote against Alito.
Instead, Cornyn should look toward the four senators (including himself) who have already pledged support for Alito:
Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX):
Judge Alito, the reason why these groups are trying to defeat your nomination because you won’t support their liberal agenda is precisely why I support it.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC):
It’s possible you could talk me out of voting for you, but I doubt it. So I won’t even try to challenge you along those lines. I feel very comfortable with you being on the Supreme Court based on what I know.
Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ):
These are the standards for a Supreme Court justice, and you plainly meet these expectations. As a consequence, I view your nomination with a heavy presumption in favor of confirmation.
Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS):
I will be supporting your nomination in front of the committee and on the floor. I think you’re an outstanding nominee, and I have appreciated your thoughts that you have put forward here.
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January 11, 2006
Alito Will ‘Keep an Open Mind’ About Schumer
The judge declined an invitation to characterize the senator’s long history of hostile questioning to Republican nominees as “super-precedent†or “super-duper precedent.â€
“Any sort of categorization like that with regard to Sen. Schumer reminds me of the size of the disposable diapers in the supermarket,†Judge Alito said.
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2138
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Now that's a debate I would love to see. alito's poor wife would REALLY shed some tears then. Betcha ole sammy boy would too.
I could see the headlines now: alito Becomes Howard's Bitch
January 12th, 2006 at 11:14 amSomebody should accuse him of being a marijuana user. It would be all over the the Supreme Court nominee. He would qualify for the position of Supreme Court Jester, not Justice.
Vote him in and forget about. Then get the US out of Iraq, it is the only thing of importance the US gov. should be doing.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:16 amAnother example of how neocons have problems distinguishing reality from fantasy. It's almost as if they don't understand that the game has changed. Information is out there. Your previous statements can be googled and used against you. Maybe someone should send the RNC a memo informing them about "the internets".
January 12th, 2006 at 11:21 amThe judge declined an invitation to characterize the senator’s long history of hostile questioning to Republican nominees as “super-precedent†or “super-duper precedent.â€
Awwwwwww, are big nasty Senators picking on poor widdle Alito?
How dare those big old nasty Democrats ask poor little Sammy hard questions, just beacuse poor little Sammy is a blatantly obvious liar who wants to give unchecked power to that unelected terrorist monkey in the White House.
Poor BAY-bee.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:23 am"But not a single senator in the hearings has said he or she plans to vote against Alito.
Instead, Cornyn should look toward the four senators (including himself) who have already pledged support for Alito:"
It's no more surprising that the Donks can't find anything against Alito than it is they'd vote against him anyway, and some will of course. But what's really interesting is the sour grapes that are starting to form on some of the lower hanging branches of the Donk Berry Bush....Joe Biden...what a loser.
Supreme Court nominees are so mum about the major legal issues at their Senate confirmation hearings that the hearings serve little purpose and should probably be abandoned, Democratic Sen. Joe Biden said Thursday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060112/ap_on_go_co/alito_biden
January 12th, 2006 at 11:24 amA question for the trolls--and the other unthinkers: Why would Alito claim a leadership role in CAP on his resume and deny any knowledge of the organization at the hearings?
In keeping with the old legal theory that one should never a question unless one knows the answer I will answer it for you. He is an opportunistic liar. I don't know, nor do I care, which is the true answer but since they are direct opposites one or the other or possibly both are untrue. Both cannot be true statements, hence, Alito is a liar. QED
January 12th, 2006 at 11:25 amNow that’s a debate I would love to see. alito’s poor wife would REALLY shed some tears then. Betcha ole sammy boy would too.
I could see the headlines now: alito Becomes Howard’s Bitch
Comment by The Debtonator
To begin with there is not one person on the planet with a brain that would actually pay to listen to Howard Stern. Secondly, a man like Alito would never condescend to appear in the same room with a person of Stern's character and reputation. It's a fact, some people don't deserve the time of day.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:33 am#3
Perhaps THAT'S why he can't remember his time with Concerned Alumni of Princeton
January 12th, 2006 at 11:36 am#8
You seem to be the leading authority on people without brains. Nice work scarecrow.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:37 amStern for President!
January 12th, 2006 at 11:38 am#10 Debtonator:
*coffeespit*
January 12th, 2006 at 11:40 amHeard on the radio that Sen Brownback was observed sleeping throughout the questioning. Then, when it was his turn, he said, "Well, I've heard all I need to hear," and then announced that he was voting to confirm Alito, and yielded back the balance of his time. (Talk about not doing your job!) I guess he didn't need to hear anything because he slept through it all. He must have already made up his mind to vote for Alito. Why is this acceptable to Republicans, but anyone saying, "I have some doubts and some questions that I would like to hear the answers to before I make up my mind," is accused of already having decided to vote against him? Could it be that the Republicans know that the Democratics will not get the answers they seek?
January 12th, 2006 at 11:42 amFunny ... I hope this posts correctly.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:44 amIRI
Why can't you address the topic of the thread. It's right there for you in black and white. When confronted with neocon lies, you respond by saying "so, it's no different than ________" (fill in the blank). Yet, you never address the neocon offense.
If you support illegal actions, distortions and outright lies because of party loyalty, then that makes you a partisan hack. Try something different in 2006. Hold "the party of responsibility" responsible for their own actions instead of trying to use progressives as your scapegoat.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:45 amEither Alito is lying now, or lied on his job app years ago. Either way, he's a lying scumbag. But he'll be able to hang with that other liar, Justice Thomas. Ha, imagine Alito getting Thomas his coffee: "I like it as black as me, CAP bitch!"
January 12th, 2006 at 11:46 amCould it be that the Republicans know that the Democratics will not get the answers they seek?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Name one.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:46 am#12
Figured you to be one to spit rather than swallow.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:51 am#14 Giacomo:
Glad you decided to stop playing a moderate on this blog. You find that flow chart funny huh? This can't be the same man that comes here day after day to lecture on respecting others even if we disagree. This can't be the same man that chastises liberals who ridicule conservatives. This can't be the same man that isn't willing to call a lie a lie unless Dubya himself were willing to stand up and say "I lied". Surely this isn't the same man that claims blanket statements or assumptions about people based on party affiliation are immature and hurt America.
My eyes must be deceiving me. Surely he isn't guilty of the very behaviors he sits on his high horse and condemns daily. HYPOCRITE....thy name is Giacomo.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:53 am#18 Debtonator:
Shame on you for that statement. Shame on me for laughing until I cried. :-)
January 12th, 2006 at 11:55 amThe only shame I feel is being an American under bushy's dictatorship. I will be a proud American once again at his IMPEACHMENT hearings.
They're on the horizon.
Glad I could make you laugh though.
Peace.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:59 amMy eyes must be deceiving me. Surely he isn’t guilty of the very behaviors he sits on his high horse and condemns daily. HYPOCRITE….thy name is Giacomo.
Nice sense of humor you got there ... relax ... it's a flow chart meant to be a humorous over-simplification.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:05 pmFeingold reminded Alito he will have a conflict of interest problem since he was coached by pro-spying NSA Bush lawyer.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:05 pmAs usual...
But, that's because open-minded people are liberal... sorta goes hand-in-hand...
January 12th, 2006 at 12:31 pmNice sense of humor you got there … relax … it’s a flow chart meant to be a humorous over-simplification.
Comment by Giacomo — January 12, 2006 @ 12:05 pm
Of liberals. Post one about conservatives...
January 12th, 2006 at 12:32 pmIRI
Why can’t you address the topic of the thread.
Comment by Str8UpNoChas
I thought I did and in my humble opinion, did it very well. There's not a lot you can do with progressive hypocrisy. How many Donks have made up their mind already? Who cares anyway? The guy is in because he's a superbly qualified individual. He's a conservative and not a Sandy O'Connor clone because that's what the law allows.
I'm not even interested anymore and am waiting for you losers to trot out your next dead horse.
If you support illegal actions, distortions and outright lies because of party loyalty, then that makes you a partisan hack. Try something different in 2006. Hold “the party of responsibility†responsible for their own actions instead of trying to use progressives as your scapegoat.
Comment by Str8UpNoChas
Here's a clue loser: If I support illegal actions, distortions and outright lies (and I do under the right circumstances) it's because some people don't deserve fair play, don't deserve the truth and should be shot in the back as soon as the opportunity presents itself. That's what you do to your enemies both foreign and domestic if you want to win. I'm not saying that any of that has happened in this case. I'm just saying....
January 12th, 2006 at 12:39 pmOf liberals. Post one about conservatives…
Comment by unbelievable
We did better than that. We allowed Ruth "Buzzy" Ginsberg on the bench without so much as a discouraging word. Hint: That will NEVER happen again.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:50 pmIf I support illegal actions, distortions and outright lies (and I do under the right circumstances) it’s because some people don’t deserve fair play, don’t deserve the truth and should be shot in the back as soon as the opportunity presents itself. That’s what you do to your enemies both foreign and domestic if you want to win. I’m not saying that any of that has happened in this case. I’m just saying….
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #26
BRAVO, well said
I-Triflinscurvymofopusinfectedrightwingsh*t-I
...see why we need a purge?
January 12th, 2006 at 12:51 pmRepublican Senators have already been told by Bush to support Alito, so why be surprised about them voting yes for him?
January 12th, 2006 at 12:52 pm#26
Superbly qualified? Coming from YOU, I wouldn't exactly call that a rousing endorsement.
You go on to make a bigger fool of yourself by saying:
"If I support illegal actions, distortions and outright lies (and I do under the right circumstances) it’s because some people don’t deserve fair play, don’t deserve the truth and should be shot in the back as soon as the opportunity presents itself. That’s what you do to your enemies both foreign and domestic if you want to win."
GREAT IDEA!!!
January 12th, 2006 at 12:54 pmBRAVO, well said
I-Triflinscurvymofopusinfectedrightwingsh*t-I
…see why we need a purge?
Comment by big papa
Back so soon from the cotton field?
January 12th, 2006 at 12:57 pm#13 Wayne, Thanks for the tip! We've updated the post with that great Brownback quote.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:01 pmHeck Sen. Joe Lieberman will vote for Alito, he supported Brownie to run FEMA > lol. Also expect Sen. Ben Nelson to back Alito too, since he is NOT a real Democrat > lol.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:01 pm#22 - it is not a simple flow chart, it's an attack period.
#27 Ginsberg? That old Story...bloame Orrin Hatch for her, he's the one who arranged for republican acquiescense on her.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:14 pm#32 Amanda,
Thank Dr. Rachel Maddow. I heard it on her Air America Radio show this morning.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:26 pmWatching Ted Kennedy, mysoginist extaordinaire, question San Alito regarding Alito's judicial decisions affecting women and minorities would be LAUGHABLE if it weren't so pathetic!!
And to add to the laugh trac is Kennedy's criticism about Alito's promise to recuse from Vanguard "during the initial" tenure on the 3rd Circuit. I don't think twelve years is a part of any person's initial service in anything. But it would have been nice if Senator Kennedy remembered to call the authorities when his car INITIALLY went into the drink, or if he thought about saving his passenger INITIALLY along with himself; barring any of those possibilities - he might have called the police when he INITIALLY returned to his room. Hmmmmmm.......
January 12th, 2006 at 1:39 pmAccording to Kelley, these congressional limits on the presidency, in turn, led "some very creative people" in the White House and the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) to fight back, in an attempt to foil or blunt these limits. In their view, these laws were legislative attempts to strip the president of his rightful powers. Prominent among those in the movement to preserve presidential power and champion the unitary executive doctrine were the founding members of the Federalist Society, nearly all of whom worked in the Nixon, Ford, and Reagan White Houses.
The unitary executive doctrine arises out of a theory called "departmentalism," or "coordinate construction." According to legal scholars Christopher Yoo, Steven Calabresi, and Anthony Colangelo, the coordinate construction approach "holds that all three branches of the federal government have the power and duty to interpret the Constitution." According to this theory, the president may (and indeed, must) interpret laws, equally as much as the courts.
HEY IRI are you telling me that BUSH,after how man signings? more than any president? Can interpret Law? as equally as the courts hes stuffed? isnt that like conflict of interest?
January 12th, 2006 at 1:51 pmHow so is this check and balanced above?
ADMIT it IRI, you want to abolish Civil Rights.
Watching Ted Kennedy, mysoginist extaordinaire, question San Alito regarding Alito’s judicial decisions affecting women and minorities would be LAUGHABLE if it weren’t so pathetic!!
And to add to the laugh trac is Kennedy’s criticism about Alito’s promise to recuse from Vanguard “during the initial†tenure on the 3rd Circuit. I don’t think twelve years is a part of any person’s initial service in anything. But it would have been nice if Senator Kennedy remembered to call the authorities when his car INITIALLY went into the drink, or if he thought about saving his passenger INITIALLY along with himself; barring any of those possibilities - he might have called the police when he INITIALLY returned to his room. Hmmmmmm…….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 12, 2006 @ 1:39 pm
Your comments are so lame MA. Your attempts at wit fall far from the mark. How many times must you beat this same dead horse about Kennedy's accident? Does his accident somehow absolve all congressmsn of their duty to advise and consent on SCOTUS nominees? Face it MA, you're a partisan cheerleader that doesn't really care about what is best for the country as a whole. Continue giggling and thinking that you're "winning" something. Attacking Kennedy isn't going to change any of the inept decisions that have been made by this administration. Continue your demonization of dems and progressives while republicans rob the country blind and lay the foundation for an Imperial Presidency. Keep on concerning yourself with events that happened decades ago while ignoring all of the corruption and criminal behavior taking place right now under your nose. You are a perfect example of the type of conservative that Michael Scanlon (Tom Delay's former press secretary) spoke about:
"The whacko’s get their information through the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees. ... Simply put, we want to bring out the whacko’s to vote against something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them."
Mighty Aphrodite = Grade A "whacko"
January 12th, 2006 at 2:02 pm#14 Giacomo:
Glad you decided to stop playing a moderate on this blog. You find that flow chart funny huh? This can’t be the same man that comes here day after day to lecture on respecting others even if we disagree. This can’t be the same man that chastises liberals who ridicule conservatives. This can’t be the same man that isn’t willing to call a lie a lie unless Dubya himself were willing to stand up and say “I liedâ€. Surely this isn’t the same man that claims blanket statements or assumptions about people based on party affiliation are immature and hurt America.
My eyes must be deceiving me. Surely he isn’t guilty of the very behaviors he sits on his high horse and condemns daily. HYPOCRITE….thy name is Giacomo.
Comment by Str8UpNoChaser — January 12, 2006 @ 11:53 am
Naw what hes saying is thru voters here and across the US listening to MSM, RUSH, CNN or FALWELL, Think Tank Jaw jacking, FAUX news, all these opinions have served to allow a Cabal to overrun the WhiteHouse and muzzle the Media. It is not Giacomos or My fault for this Disaster Called Buschco.
January 12th, 2006 at 2:07 pmEach and every time, the MSM rehashers, The astroturfers aka ThinkTanks, and Kristol Media, AEI, etc, and the Opinionists, talking heads, and the Intellects with their books have made the majority of America Indecisive boob tubers, and reality show dolts, Whos Time/attention span is about 3 days, Clueless.
HEY IRI are you telling me that BUSH,after how man signings? more than any president? Can interpret Law? as equally as the courts hes stuffed? isnt that like conflict of interest?
How so is this check and balanced above?
ADMIT it IRI, you want to abolish Civil Rights.
Comment by HAIRY THRUST
I wasn't speaking of executive power I was speaking of executive privilege. In other words as President George gets to nominate who he damn well pleases to these posts. I don't know how you construed that comment I made to mean he interprets law.
January 12th, 2006 at 2:39 pm"If I support illegal actions, distortions and outright lies (and I do under the right circumstances) it’s because some people don’t deserve fair play, don’t deserve the truth and should be shot in the back as soon as the opportunity presents itself. That’s what you do to your enemies both foreign and domestic if you want to win. I’m not saying that any of that has happened in this case. I’m just saying….
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — January 12, 2006 @
Iri's "polishing his gun" again. I'll bet you even creep-out the slack-jawed meth-heads you target practice with.
January 12th, 2006 at 3:25 pmThis is getting insane. Of COURSE the democrats have made up their mind about voting against Alito! You will be hard pressed to find a single democratic in the senate who will vote for him (but I should hold my tongue, there could be a few). Since when does what people claim mean anything in politics to all of you? You seriously think that beacuse Feinstein and Kennedy are SAYING that they haven't made up their minds really means that they haven't? They each have NEVER voted to elect a republican/conservative supreme court justice. NEVER. And they won't this time either. And it's a shem, because not only is Alito honest, but he's experienced and even-minded.
January 12th, 2006 at 3:42 pm"How many times must you beat this same dead horse about Kennedy’s accident?" - StraightChaser
You mean, "Kennedy's negligence????"
I know it's unusual to find a sense of humour among the hard-core Left but you must admit the irony of having one of the biggest, most infamous pigs in Washington lecturing ANYBODY on morality of any type and women in particular. Tell you what, when the moonbats on the left stop shrieking about "Bush's illegal war" and "WMD's" I'll stop pointing out the foibles of Teddy's character.
January 12th, 2006 at 4:57 pmAmen! Kennedy has no moral values. And did you see his record as a Harvard student? He was in a club that didn't allow women OR minorities to join and did not want them to be admitted into Harvard. But that doesn't matter, because Kennedy is God to all of you.
January 12th, 2006 at 5:12 pmJames - you don't mean Teddy would JOIN a club without women? That must be before he was suspended for cheating on the infamous Spanish exam and Daddy Joe gave him the ultimatum about military service. Maybe that's why he saw nothing wrong with the ingrates at Princeton bashing the ROTC. Hmmmmm.....
January 12th, 2006 at 5:55 pmAmen! Kennedy has no moral values. And did you see his record as a Harvard student? He was in a club that didn’t allow women OR minorities to join and did not want them to be admitted into Harvard. But that doesn’t matter, because Kennedy is God to all of you.
Comment by James — January 12, 2006 @ 5:12 pm
I'm not familiar with this story. What was the name of the club to which you refer? Can you provide links that prove what you're saying? And are these links to places other than conservative think tanks?
January 12th, 2006 at 6:52 pmJohn Cornyn has always been a shithole. The pimp from North Carolina with the name Graham is a whore. Brownback is a sissys ass So what else is new to a culture that has long ago ceded any right to human fairness and squareness. Gas prices are rising again, Hurricane season is not far off, the Jet stream has now risen dangerously West, China is about ready to dump billions of US Dollars...don't worry you Rightwing Pigs. Alito may not get you but many other things will.
January 12th, 2006 at 8:22 pmNotice to the Rightwing of America. Your time has come to end permanently. It will not be long before your kind are systematically OUTLAWED. Ten years from now if we catch any one of you You will be hanged without ceremony!
January 12th, 2006 at 8:24 pmOf course the conservatives have made up their mind. They have looked at Alito's background, his qualifications, and his record, and they have rightly concluded that he will be a fine Supreme Court justice. Only a fool would conclude otherwise.
BTW, the Dems have made up their minds, too - just in the opposite direction. What a pack of lightweights and fools!
January 12th, 2006 at 8:29 pm"BTW, the Dems have made up their minds, too - just in the opposite direction. What a pack of lightweights and fools! Blue State Red"
And yet you've made up your mind without facts, and simply name call those that disagree with you. How adult of you. How old are you again? I mean mentally, not physically?
You know we all belong to this same country, and yet you act like a 'foreign agent'. Grow up and learn to love us as your fellow americans, and stop acting like a little boy. It's unseemly, and the normal operating procedure for your fellow republican children. You make up your mind based on lies and misinformation, and rail against anyone that tells the truth. The facts should determine the conclusion, not the conclusion dictate the search for facts. Yet this Alito process indicates you and your fellow republicans are fact fixers, just like in Iraq. It's irresponsible, and inappropriate. Stop being a jerk!
January 12th, 2006 at 8:40 pmTell me exactly, what facts did we fix? I will find you a source for everything I've said...
About the club Ted Kennedy was in...
Drudgereport.com had this report:
Satisfied?
January 12th, 2006 at 8:51 pmsorry James...your sucker punch at Kennedy does not make the grade. I would imagine those whom you are addressing are not satisfied. Look, from what I have seen of this Alito guy he might make a good Judge. But it seems the Repubs are still shifting in the swirling sands of their incredible denial of what is wrong in this country. They alone have divided the US. Not Osama, Not the Iraqi Insurgency and Not Irans pursuit of bombs to blow us away. In my opinion John Snake eys Cornyn Lindsay Graham and the rest of the Republican Rightwing are FAR Greater Threats to America than anything facing this country. Satisfied?
January 12th, 2006 at 10:21 pmgood gosh drudgeport of all lunatic misleading and outright lying excuses for something it calls News?
January 12th, 2006 at 10:23 pmToo funny! The Senator says that he thinks there are those who have decided to vote against the nominee and you call him a liar?! Come on, just try to convince anybody with a pulse that Kennedy, Schumer, Durbin and a handful of other liberals didn't have their mind made up before the nominee's name was even announced! Ha! Ha! Ha!
January 13th, 2006 at 12:05 amClearly some Senators intended to vote for him and others against him before they even knew who "he" was. We can only hope that at least some Senators will make an effort to form a real decision of their own. Alito will be confirmed. The only question is how much squirming, whining and posturing various politicians do before that.
Why is it that Alito feels that he shouldn't comment on his PERSONAL beliefs about Roe v. Wade, saying that it wouldn't be right, because the issue could come before him on the S.C.? Hasn't he said that his personal feelings would not affect his rulings? So WTF???? He is obviously showing himself to be a liar, and saying exactly what his plans are re: R. v. W. Say Buh-Bye.
January 13th, 2006 at 2:43 amI always enjoy listening to progs praise the intelligence and judicial temperment of "swing" Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. Just as long as she swings their way on the liberal bedrocks of abortion, affirmative action etc. she is a centrist. I get it. The outcome and NOT the law is the most important. When convenient Catholic, (and aptly named) Dick Durbin, deemed it necessary to wear his heart on his sleeve, it was too funny having Alito quietly lecture the august Senator from Illinois that he was merely following the law PASSED BY CONGRESS (and might be changed by Congress) regarding search and seizures (in the oft touted outrage about 'strip searches' of 10 year olds.) As Alito noted, drug dealers MIGHT tend to hide their drugs on minors. Who knew??
January 13th, 2006 at 2:30 pm#57 - Thanks for the "progressive" boycott tips!!! NOW I know where I will spend my $$$$!! The funniest "I demand"...raise the payroll tax (!!!) - after "demanding" $10.- per hour minimum wage. How about this suggestion - use a minimum wage job to help the family and to get through school. Then, when no longer a professional victim, earn a decent wage, be a good role model and quit whining. Pass along to all progs.
January 13th, 2006 at 3:21 pm"Notice to the Rightwing of America. Your time has come to end permanently. It will not be long before your kind are systematically OUTLAWED. Ten years from now if we catch any one of you You will be hanged without ceremony!"
January 13th, 2006 at 7:25 pmComment by Bobbytoo — January 12, 2006 @ 8:24 pm
*****Thank God for the Second Amendment!!! You know what they say, "Never bring a length of rope to a gun fight."
#48 - "Come to end permanently"? Really? How do you figure since the right is the majority? I know you don't believe that but across the country you can see that Republicans usually win whenever candidates are voted on by the public. Republicans hold the Presidency, the Senate, the House and a majority of the Governorships. Spare me the whiny garbage about "stolen" elections. If your side is so stupid it really allows elections to be stolen year after year and from coast to coast maybe you deserve it. Your advocation of violence makes it sound like shooting you down in the street would actually be self-defense. Perhaps you have forgotten who owns most of the guns? Yep, the very people you despise and threaten. Not very smart are you? Now I will await your no doubt brilliantly witty reply (chuckle).
January 13th, 2006 at 9:47 pmPerhaps you have forgotten who owns most of the guns? Yep, the very people you despise and threaten. Not very smart are you? Now I will await your no doubt brilliantly witty reply (chuckle).
Comment by TheRef — January 13, 2006 @ 9:47 pm
Look what the cat dragged in.... another delusional, violent, raging neocon troll regurgitating the same old tired vitriol. Haven't you got something new? Something challenging for us? Look clone, we already get all the whackos who've just listened to the latest Rush and Hannity reicht-wing propaganda... can't you come up with something original? Yawnnnnnnn..... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Funny that you decided to post in an older forum that most people have left, rather than a current one where the activity lies.
January 14th, 2006 at 8:18 amUhm, just like you apparently. Actually I'm just more interested in Justice Alito than the un-ethical foibles of Congressmen. I didn't start the threats of violence. Just offered a gentle reminder to the delusional, violent, raging "progressive" troll that they should be a little more careful before slinging empty threats. Sorry to hear that you find the truth "tiring". As for something new and challenging that is rather amusing since you use troll, neocon, whackos and reicht-wing. What? Nothing original? What's "unbelievable" is that you take yourself so seriously. Ahh well, fish in a barrel!
January 14th, 2006 at 2:11 pmUhm, just like you apparently.
Was concluding a conversation from earlier and wanted to see if that person had responded yet.
Actually I’m just more interested in Justice Alito than the un-ethical foibles of Congressmen. I didn’t start the threats of violence. Just offered a gentle reminder to the delusional, violent, raging “progressive†troll that they should be a little more careful before slinging empty threats.
Gentle? If you'd been gentle I'd not have responded.
This is a progressive blog, that makes us residents... and non-progressives the trolls (google it).
What empty threats? This is Freedom of Speech. I hear it's something the conservative blogs don't allow. In here we can say anything we want. The Constitution allows that. You should read it. It's really cool...
Sorry to hear that you find the truth “tiringâ€.
You weren't telling the truth. That's what I found tiring.
As for something new and challenging that is rather amusing since you use troll, neocon, whackos and reicht-wing. What? Nothing original?
I try with you guys, but it always goes over your heads... so it's just simplier (like your thought process) to use words you already know to get out point across.
What’s “unbelievable†is that you take yourself so seriously. Ahh well, fish in a barrel!
Comment by TheRef — January 14, 2006 @ 2:11 pm
I forget that you guys have no creative bones in your chubby bodies... I'm an Atheist. I don't 'believe' (as in 'un')... plus I just got tired of typing the word in response to all of you trolls, so it's now permanently attached to the bottom of my posts...
Your moniker, however, requires no explanation... how lame...
Wake me if you have something to offer...
January 14th, 2006 at 2:48 pmWas concluding a conversation from earlier and wanted to see if that person had responded yet.
What a coincidence! So was I!
Gentle? If you’d been gentle I’d not have responded.
Of course you would. That's what makes this so much fun. You can't resist.
I try with you guys, but it always goes over your heads
That's because I have my feet on the ground and hot air rises.
I forget that you guys have no creative bones in your chubby bodies
As if you have even the slightest clue who I am. To flaunt your ignorant assumptions I will tell you that I am actually rather thin and have never been described as chubby. The jibe at your moniker was for my own personal amusement. I couldn't care less what it means to you just as I don't care what you think of mine, nor should you. Progressives exist for the amusement of the rest of us and I'm glad. The country would be less interesting if everyone were rational.
January 14th, 2006 at 3:37 pmThe fun now will be seeing if you respond. If you do it means you feel this silliness constitutes "something to offer" since you had to wake-up to respond.
The fun now will be seeing if you respond. If you do it means you feel this silliness constitutes “something to offer†since you had to wake-up to respond.
Comment by TheRef — January 14, 2006 @ 3:37 pm
So, still nothing intelligent to say... I thought not.
January 14th, 2006 at 5:43 pmI knew you couldn't resist! Just like Pavlov's dog! Too funny. Actually my comments about justified defense were intelligent and reasonable. So was my observation that you leaped to erroneous conclusions about me. The bit about a less interesting country was intelligent. The mini-sermon about progressives being a losing minority was intelligent though rather obvious. The bit about stolen elections was both intelligent and rather witty. The line about monikers wasn't particularly intelligent. Actually it was rather snide but quite truthful. As for waiting for your response, not terribly mature of me but I did have a lot of fun with it.
January 14th, 2006 at 7:54 pmThe closest comment of yours to intelligence was the "over your heads" although, as you see, it was too easy to parry. Now that I think about it, your moniker line wasn't too bad so I give you half-credit. Isn't this fun? An intelligent person (me) and a self-styled progressive (you) excercising our right to free speech. By the way, why didn't you respond to post #48 by Bobbytoo who introduced threats of violence and vigilantism into your peaceful, progressive blog (snicker). Could it be that you approve of violence threats by your side and only disapprove of others? Hypocrite! Your serve if you're awake...
Your serve if you’re awake…
Comment by TheRef — January 14, 2006 @ 7:54 pm
Yes, you will just keep blathering if I type a few words in response... uh, yeah, clearly I'm the trained monkey here... Wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn? Has a great view...
Your ball was out of bounds. Nothing to return.
January 14th, 2006 at 8:07 pmDidn't think you could offer any rebuttal. I accept your surrender. The "out of bounds" thing was your best effort yet though. Too bad you ran out of steam so quickly. Of course, you didn't really have any anyway. Where's the anser to my comment about post #48? Let me try a "liberal-progressive" response okay? Here goes...
January 14th, 2006 at 8:43 pmYou loser repugnican reich-winger liars lie everytime you open your stupid, childish, ignorant pie-holes! I hate you all and wish you were dead! You will be dead when we rule the world as we inevitably will! If you disagree with me you must be the most criminal animal on earth! You hate women! You hate anyone with a brain! You are zombies! Religious freaks! You aren't happy with a dictatorship, you demand a theocratic-dictatorship! You stole all elections we ever lost! You want to destroy everything we have accomplished since yesterday (just threw that in)! I'm running out of exclamation marks! Uhm, what am I yelling about? Oh yeah, you suck, your children suck and your dog sucks! Did I say you suck? Oops, your fat and that sucks!
How was that? Pretty accurate? No? Then try actually reading the multitude of posts on pretty much every thread here and you'll see I nailed it. Still wonder why you can't get any real people to take you seriously?
Gotta give you credit for something. This thread is going to disappear soon so you were right that I should be posting my incredibly witty post #69 (bet you love the number eh?) on a thread nearer the top of the web site.
January 14th, 2006 at 8:46 pmHow was that? Pretty accurate? No? Then try actually reading the multitude of posts on pretty much every thread here and you’ll see I nailed it. Still wonder why you can’t get any real people to take you seriously?
Comment by TheRef — January 14, 2006 @ 8:43 pm
Pathetic...
The only think you nailed is your blow up doll... and I think she's leaking air.
If you are 'real people', then I'm going to go hang out with some plastic mannequins. I'm sure they'll be more original and clever than you have thus far...
What do you want me to say? You haven't said anything worth responding to... and I'm bored now. Find me in another post of you come up with something. Otherwise, if I have to talk to trolls, I'd rather talk to IRI, he may be just as unstable as you, but at least he's got a sense of humor.
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