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Failed global leadership.

By Nico Pitney on Jan 18th, 2006 at 6:21 pm

Failed global leadership.

“The organization behind the annual Davos, Switzerland, meeting of world leaders said yesterday that ‘no progress’ was made in 2005 toward eliminating weapons of mass destruction. … The World Economic Forum also called efforts to eliminate terrorism ‘largely unsuccessful’ last year.”



56 Responses to “Failed global leadership.”

  1. Spudge_Boy says:

    More than just ‘largely unsuccessful’ the report says:

    “It seems likely,” they wrote, that “the number of significant international terrorist events” will be found to have continued to rise in 2005.

    RISE, as in more.


  2. Zookeeper says:

    Global War on Terror = What. A. Joke.


  3. Wayne says:

    sooo…. Like the response to Katrina, the War in Iraq, and everything else the Bush administration has touched, the War on Terrorism is a failure.

    Great job there Bushie =P


  4. Blue State Red says:

    This report obviously fails to take into account our success in taking out Midhat Mursi, 52, also known as Abu Khabab al-Masri, who has been identified by Pakistani authorities as one of three known al Qaeda leaders present at an apparent terror summit conference in the village of Damadola. Mursi was one of al-Qaeda’s leading bombmakers and an expert on chemical weapons.

    Want to bet that one of the methods used to track Mursi involved monitoring of ceel phone communications?

    Meanwhile, Howard Dean still says we can’t win the war on terror, and Jack Murtha says troop morale is low.

    And, on the homefront, fever swamp darling and would-be Ohio senatorial candidate Paul Hackett compared religious Republicans to Mursi and his ilk with this statement Sunday in the Columbus Dispatch: “The Republican Party has been hijacked by the religious fanatics that, in my opinion, aren’t a whole lot different than Osama bin Laden and a lot of the other religious nuts around the world.”

    On Tuesday Hackett compounded the problem with this statement: “I said it. I meant it. I stand behind it.”

    Now I could be wrong, but I’m guessing that Ohio Democrats aren’t going to vote in large numbers for a guy who unapologetically compares their neighbors to “Osama bin Laden and a lot of the other religious nuts around the world.”


  5. Gary Ruppert says:

    I don’t trust a meeting of world leaders on such issues. For one thing, the UN regularly votes 180 to 6 to constantly praise communism and bash America.


  6. Gary Ruppert says:

    Nah, the bigoted anti-Christian statements from that lawyer Paul Hackett will put him over with the base of the Ohio Democrat Party.

    The fact is that the Democrat Party is not a party for self-respecting Christians.


  7. Clyde the Ripper says:

    Why are we not surprised?

    Soon the trolls will have their talking points and will claim the august bodies are all liberals and don’t understand the proper significance of the situation. Besides, they didn’t ask King George the Dumb for permission to criticize his actions.


  8. Clyde the Ripper says:

    Those suckers beat me to it! Their communication is improving. It is a shame we can’t say the same for their intelligence. I am almost certain that they get the talking points by electronic transmission or they scan by OCR since it is blatantly obvious that they are incapable of reading any comments since they never answer.


  9. Justin says:

    Why does everyone act like Al-Qaeda is some underground group that the US government is having difficulty locking down? The US FUNDED AND TRAINED Al-Qaeda when they were fighting the Russians. We’ve been dealing with them for DECADES. This whole thing is one big charade. Bush doesn’t care about terrorism, abortion, human life- only making himself and his cronies richer.

    Now where the hell are your talking points for that, trolls?


  10. SuperEdo says:

    The fact is that the Democrat Party is not a party for self-respecting Christians.

    Just because you write “The fact is” before something, Gary, that does not mean it is a fact. If the Republican party is full of self-respecting Christians, then I’d rather be a self-loathing Satanist.


  11. Clyde the Ripper says:

    “Want to bet that one of the methods used to track Mursi involved monitoring of ceel phone communications?”

    Comment by Blue State Red in #4 above.

    BSR,

    I fail to see your logic or rationale in the quoted question as it has no bearing on this thread or, as I suspect, the illegal monitoring of the communications of US Citizens. If indeed the information was gathered from the monitoring of a US citizen and Mursi it brings to bear two significant questions: (1) Why was the US citizen not arrested and charged with treason? and (2) Why did Bush not get a warrant, before or after the fact, so that his actions would be legal. I would submit that you have absolutely no personal knowledge of how the US tracked Mirsi, if they actually did, and even if the man is dead. You have no sensible response so you just obfuscate–in words you may relate to, you are just blowing smoke.

    I will play your game: Want to bet that you are full of shit? Or maybe it is that I don’t what a ceel phone is.


  12. Blue State Red says:

    “(1) Why was the US citizen not arrested and charged with treason? and (2) Why did Bush not get a warrant, before or after the fact, so that his actions would be legal.”

    (1) The NSA program, according to all the reports I have seen, was not designed to monitor specific US citizens. Rather, it was designed to monitor international communications by foreign al-Qaeda operatives with their counterparts in America.

    (2) You can’t get a warrant without providing specific information as to the name, address and other particulars of the target. As I understand it, that information is usually not available when one is monitoring communications of foreign terrorists. Technology allows us to intercept their international calls without regard to identity or location. But we have to act quickly on such information – even a few hours diminishes our ability to get the intelligence.

    I don’t pretend to know how we tracked Mursi to that house. I’m just glad we did. Shoot first and ask questions later with these guys.


  13. Justin says:

    Blue Red State, your knowledge of this subject is appalling. You are obviously the product of corporate brainwashing.

    In regards to your #2, you clearly haven’t the slightly clue about FISA or what is does. FOR THE LAST TIME, it does NOT slow down the process in any way, I don’t care what the robots at Fox News say. Under FISA you are allowed to wire tap at the drop of a hat, you simply have to apply for a warrant within 72 hours AFTER you initiate the wiretapping. That way, the process is NOT slowed down but the government can’t just go wiretapping whomever the hell they want for whatever reason. They have three days to obtain a warrant AFTER THE FACT. GET IT?

    But apparently little things like warrants are of no use to mein fuhrer BUSH. He’d rather that the executive have complete control with out pesky little things like “checks and balances”. BOO HOO


  14. Spudge_Boy says:

    “Rather, it was designed to monitor international communications by foreign al-Qaeda operatives with their counterparts in America.”

    Yes BSR, we all thought that, but we received more information about three weeks ago. But, you don’t like the new information, so you just keep posting the same bullshit over and over.

    “You can’t get a warrant without providing specific information as to the name, address and other particulars of the target.”

    Once again, you are wrong. You are talking about a standard run of the mill everyday warrant. Like what the police would use to catch a drug dealer. The FISA court doesn’t require that. You are trying to make it seem like these warrants were hard to obtain, which they absolutely were not.


  15. Justin says:

    spudge boy, I don’t think BRS is going to respond.

    He just got spanked twice in 5 minutes. Ouch.


  16. Optimist says:

    #12-Blue Balled Redhead,
    Oh my God, you could not be more off if you tried. Are you serious? This is an issue that has been at the forefront for over a month with mountains of information available and you still don’t have a clue?

    So, besides being a coward and a traitor, you are also a gallactic moron. I see now why you are attracted to bush.


  17. Spudge_Boy says:

    “I don’t pretend to know how we tracked Mursi to that house. I’m just glad we did. Shoot first and ask questions later with these guys.”

    Yes, I am sure that the family members of the innocents that were killed are saying the same thing to other family members who have now joined the Jihad against America.

    You wanna know how terrorist are created? Look at the thousands of people in this picture protesting against America’s bombing in Pakistan. Most are just mad, but some will join the cause. How do you know the difference between the two? You got a magic wand BSR?

    null


  18. Spudge_Boy says:

    Besides BSR,

    Are you talking about this Mursi?

    CNN
    January 17, 2006
    U.S.: Al Qaeda expert near attack
    No confirmation he was killed in airstrike in Pakistan

    U.S. counterterrorism officials said Wednesday that al Qaeda’s chemical weapons expert was “in the vicinity” when CIA airstrikes last week hit a dinner gathering believed to include terrorists in a Pakistani mountain village.

    They said Midhat Mursi could have been killed in the attack, but stressed they cannot confirm that he was.

    Glad you are celbrating us killing nobody/somebody/maybe. Yea!!!!!


  19. Clyde the Ripper says:

    BSR,

    I think you lost both bets.

    In response to your responses:

    You certainly don’t read the same reports I read. The whole flap about the wiretapping is that Bush ILLEGALLY pinpointed specific US CITIZENS. Had he not done so he would have been applauded instead in imminent possibility of being impeached.

    I can’t get a warrant for anything and I doubt that you cooperated with anyone or acted quickly in the matter. Your choice of pronouns is sickening. However, the provisions of FISA allowing a 72 hour time-frame to obtain the warrant is specifically for the purpose you denounce. If the NSA cannot determine the “identity or location” of the caller and call what good is the system and how did they know it was Mursi and his location?

    It is hell when someone with a little commonsense questions your talking points, isn’t it? You should remember the old adage: It is far better to remain silent and let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


  20. Gregor Samsa says:

    Abu Khabab al-Masri, who has been identified by Pakistani authorities as one of three known al Qaeda leaders present at an apparent terror summit conference in the village of Damadola.
    Comment by Blue State Red — January 18, 2006 @ 7:04 pm

    “terror summit conference”? I see, terrorist hold “Summit Conferences”.

    Do you know if they send their invitations by mail?


  21. Justin says:

    Ever notice that every time a bomb falls out of a US plane it always comes SOOOOO close to killing Al-Qaeda’s #2 guy? I think everyone in Al-Qaeda is the #2 guy, except of course for old “trained by Bush’s daddy’s CIA and funded with US money” Bin- Laden.

    If W. Bush actually wanted to get Bin-Laden as he claimed, why did he fly all of his family members out of the country on 9/12/2001 when ALL other flights were grounded? Wouldn’t Bin Laden’s family have had important information regarding his whereabouts? How can ANYONE actually think this corporate tool of a president is telling the truth, EVER?

    Ah, well, the charade continues….


  22. Gregor Samsa says:

    Here is some more information about the air strike that killed innocent civilians in Pakistan. Ted Rall says that:

    The four missiles, each carrying enough explosives to take out an armored vehicle, slammed into three local jewelers’ houses at 950 miles per hour, nearly twice the speed of a passenger jet at cruising altitude. “The houses have been razed,” reported a neighbor, a member of the Pakistani parliament. “There is nothing left. Pieces of the missiles are scattered all around. Everything has been blackened in a 100-yard radius.” The target of this latest assassination attempt via missile strike, Al Qaeda second-in-command Ayman al-Zawahiri, wasn’t there. At least 22 innocent civilians, including five women and five children, were killed. “They acted on wrong information,” a Pakistani intelligence official said of the Americans.
    DEATH FROM ABOVE – U.S. Drone Planes Have a Nearly Perfect Record of Failure


  23. Spudge_Boy says:

    Okay, time for this guy to go.

    CNN
    January 17, 2006
    Single Democrat defects on Alito vote

    Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress, announced Tuesday in a statement that he had made up his mind to support Alito “because of his impeccable judicial credentials, the American Bar Association’s strong recommendation and his pledge that he would not bring a political agenda to the court.”


  24. WaltTheMan says:

    #23 – Spudge_Boy,
    Could they reverse his lobotomy before the 24th?


  25. WaltTheMan says:

    Excuse, I meant double lobotomy.


  26. Gary Ruppert says:

    Ben Nelson is a Democrat who realizes that nominees should not be discriminated against for their judicial philosophy.


  27. MichDem says:

    Three cheers for america spearheading the global war against ter{K-BOOM} … is this serious . Rup you sound more like a selfserving christian to me , how many number two al-qaeda guys are they gonna tell you they’ve captured or killed before you realize they didn’t catch a number two they just fed one to you ?


  28. RightPunch says:

    “Ben Nelson is a Democrat who realizes that nominees should not be discriminated against for their judicial philosophy. Gary Ruppert”

    But they should be prohibited based on being an activist judge that acts on that philosophy. Republican judges have always been activist judges, and always interfere with the constitution and american values in order to support big business and special interests. Alito is a proven both a racist and an unethical judge. He has no place on the bench, let alone on the supreme court.


  29. RightPunch says:

    “Nah, the bigoted anti-Christian statements from that lawyer Paul Hackett will put him over with the base of the Ohio Democrat Party. Gary Ruppert”

    What’s wrong with disagreeing with Christians. It’s a free country, and pointing out that Christianity is a bunch of silly stories that clearly lie (talking donkeys – come on), and often teach bad morals (Slavery, Child bondage, Children as property).

    Paul is clearly a silly Christian just like you are, but even if he wasn’t what does it matter. Christians like yourself are bigots against those that don’t believe in your fairy tales – and you seem to believe this is a duty.

    “The fact is that the Democrat Party is not a party for self-respecting Christians. Gary Ruppert”

    That’s an oxymoron. If you can think for yourself and have self respect, you don’t need to believe in fairy tales that tell you the earth is flat and that donkeys talk. Clearly you’re a Christian because you’re too afraid to face the world on your own merits. Those who are fearful and weak of character often exhibit such traits – I’m not surprised. I forgive you for being weak of mind and weak of spirit and unable to think or be responsible for your own morality.


  30. American Patriot says:

    Ted Rall hates America and actively roots for the other side. Gregor believes Rall. Enough said.


  31. katy says:

    that’s democratIC party, gary ruppert – the best political party for ANY self-respecting person, christian or otherwise…DEMOCRATIC PARTY…


  32. American Patriot says:

    Clearly, RightPunch would put religious people into the ovens again, if he could.


  33. Optimist says:

    RightPunch,
    You need to be easy on Gary lest you shatter his illusion of vicariously living importantly through his misguided perception of the current administration. Nothing else could explain his blind and unwavering support for those criminals and incompetent boobs.

    As far as his implied belief in Christianity, that is a farce as well. I have read much about Jesus of Nazareth and I have studied (and continue to do so) his philosophies. I can tell you without any doubt that JC would not only not condone the actions, methods, and motivations of the bush administration and his supporters, but he would probably also call them “satan”, or “beezlebub”, or in more modern terminology, “republicans”.

    Okay, the “republicans” thing is probably a little too general but you have to admit, it was funny. Seriously, though, there is absolutely no relation between the philosophies and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth and bush and his supporters. In fact, all appearances are that they are polar opposites.


  34. Mr. Ho says:

    “Ben Nelson is a Democrat who realizes that nominees should not be discriminated against for their judicial philosophy. Gary Ruppert”

    Mr Ho say Wher IRI? tel mr IRI that Mr Ho came.
    by
    Mr Nelsson foowish Men. he speek withowt think
    Suppwose this Mr Ho ask Mr. Nelsson. Why Foor you
    make ’signing’ Mr Awitoe. Mr ho want kno.
    Suppwose Mr Awitoe want torture? Mr Ho say punk on bench
    need head scan. Mr ho want kno what wrong thees hos?
    Mr Ho want kno. Who de ho and who not de ho
    the ho take Mr Ho money. Who gold Mr nelsson take?

    Mr ho want kno.


  35. Optimist says:

    unAmerican Parrot,
    Your arguments are shallow and your insults, besides being unwarranted, are non-sensical. When you get to highschool and study the Constitution, read it carefully. Study the Bill of Rights and the ammendments. Understand that discourse and dialog are the strength of this nation.

    This is not a game, young man, and you do not “support your team” at all costs. Our country and our constitution is what you should be supporting. Study, learn, and most importantly, THINK.


  36. Clyde the Ripper says:

    BSD Where are you!

    Don’t go hiding behind Momma just because your talking points took a big hit. Come on join us, we will let you play with the big boys. Just be nice, say please, and vote to impeach!


  37. MichDem says:

    Real christians lend a helping hand and try to uplift those in need , not club down with bigotry . Was there anything in the last five years that would seem remotly christ-like come from republicans , other than leading us to what happens in the back of the bible ? I’m not preaching I’m showing hypocracy .


  38. Robin says:

    I attended the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) meetings at the UN last May (2005). I watched as the US delegation stalled every single attempt at preventing the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

    In a discussion with one of the delegates he said: “I don’t have specific instructions to prevent any action, but I’m not gong to make it easy for them.”

    There were three nations obstructing the proceedings:
    Egypt was on the spot because they had persuaded the rest of the middle-east nations to renew the NPT after having been promised that the western nations would deal with Israel’s nuclear arsenal. That has never happened so Egypt was acting tough to get the point across that Israel’s illegal nuclear weapons are a significant threat to the middle-east.

    Iran just didn’t want to be mentioned by name, they didn’t like being singled out in any document that said that they were not complying with their treaty obligations. Their consistent reply was that the Nuclear Weapons’ States have not complied with Article 6, which is entirely true.

    The US didn’t want anyone to tell them what they can or can’t do. So the US stalled every possible working plan to actually prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons because the US would have to adhere to the law, and the GOP can’t abide by the law!

    So the result is that the US ENCOURAGES nuclear weapons proliferation by 1) stalling any possible international cooperation to prevent nuclear weapons proliferation and 2) attacking the one nation they KNEW didn’t have nuclear weapons, with the resulting lesson being that if you DO have nuclear weapons (DPRK [N. Korea to you uneducated right-wingers]) the US won’t attack you.

    The right-wing extremists that control the US federal government have shown by their actions over the last 6 years that they are actively increasing terrorism activities against the US, and that they want more nations to gain nuclear weapons.


  39. USA PATRIOT says:

    Optimist — Your arguments are shallow and your insults, besides being unwarranted, are non-sensical.

    MichDem — Christians lend a helping hand and try to uplift those in need, not club down with bigotry, like Demcorats do.


  40. Mr. Ho says:

    As far as his implied belief in Christianity, that is a farce as well. I have read much about Jesus of Nazareth and I have studied (and continue to do so) his philosophies. I can tell you without any doubt that JC would not only not condone the actions, methods, and motivations of the bush administration and his supporters, but he would probably also call them “satan”, or “beezlebub”, or in more modern terminology, “republicans”.

    Mr Ho say they hos. No good hos.
    Ho take mony, screw. Mr ho say busch a ho. Cheney a ho.
    Rove-ho


  41. MichDem says:

    Hey am pat your kind are the ones who put people in ovens , and burned them at the stake .


  42. Optimist says:

    MichDem,
    Exactly my point. The bible and its teachings warn of false prophets. People who use the names of God and Jesus for their own personal enrichment or for their own political motives. Sound familiar? You need look no further than bush or santorum or robertson or falwell or reed. I could go on but I feel I’ve made the point.


  43. Optimist says:

    antiUSA Parrot,
    That, my young friend, was the most infantile response I’ve seen in days. Thank you for the laugh, by the way. Do you have a point, or are you just going to continue to amuse us with more foolish nonsense?


  44. Mr. Ho says:

    MichDem — Christians lend a helping hand and try to uplift those in need, not club down with bigotry, like Demcorats do.

    Comment by USA PATRIOT — January 18, 2006

    Mr ho see NCCC funraising letter mr. patriot. it not look good.
    Mr Delay and cheney Mr ho ho koff,,patriot. mr pat not kno able danger busch ‘kristin’ admin stop Able. Mr ho want kno.

    mr ho say 8 billion missin Iraq. Mr ho say that money help people mr Pat. Mr ho want kno why you like bushch-ho.

    mr ho say aegis say busch blair security contractors (aka mercenaries) shoot at civilians drive to work. Mr ho want kno.
    mr ho say many ask why christian man want blow up people?
    mr ho want kno.

    Mr ho ask why jeff gannon come and goo 200 times, mr ho want kno. Mr ho say that bad ‘National Security’ mr ho want no


  45. Mr. Ho says:

    mr ho liek Patriot he very wise
    wise like alligator
    big mouth no ass
    he fun guy, like IRI
    Mr ho say call ho. mr Patriot

    fi fi fo-fo fo fi fi


  46. Optimist says:

    Robin,
    And we wonder why the rest of the world thinks that we’re a$$holes. By the way, what is “Article 6″?


  47. Mr. Ho says:

    Mr ho asked queshun.
    mr ho want kno patriot. tell me delay and the Russian?
    Mr ho want kno.


  48. Mr. Ho says:

    Mr ho say rite to fair trial.
    Mr ho say abram-ho rolled over. Cooked like goose.


  49. Marie says:

    #23, Spudgeboy
    When a Republican wants to abandon his party, he becomes an independent. When a Democrat wants to abandon his party, he keeps his seat under false pretenses.
    I am thinking of Lieberman, Zell Miller, and now Nelson (who has been under suspicion for a while) and comparing them to Jeffords of Vermont.
    The Republicans vote, walk and talk in lockstep, which I admit to criticizing, but they are in unison and they are effective — I’d like to see a little less independence in Democrats and more unity for the sake of the nation.
    It’s one thing to stand on personal feelings, but these guys can’t play on the team, they are too interested in themselves.
    If we ever get back to a regular two party government, then people can vote more independently, but with guys like Nelson, that day will never come.


  50. Optimist says:

    antiUSA Parrot,
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

    Stop it! You’re killing us you are so funny. Can you do that trick where you make sounds like a pig? (ring ring ring) Hold on a minute, that’s my phone…

    Hello.
    wahwah wahwahwahwah whawhawha

    Sure thing Mrs. Parrot, I’ll tell him.

    Uh, antiUSA Parrot, that was your mom. She said that you have to come home now because you are grounded. Something about wetting the bed and peeing your pants.

    Sorry pal, you better go. Thanks for the laughs.


  51. Gregor Samsa says:

    Ted Rall hates America and actively roots for the other side. Gregor believes Rall. Enough said.
    Comment by American Patriot — January 18, 2006 @ 9:33 pm

    Is this you, wwallace/NoCensorship/what/who?

    Clearly, RightPunch would put religious people into the ovens again, if he could.
    Comment by American Patriot — January 18, 2006 @ 9:36 pm

    Now I know it’s you wwallace, you are the master of distortions and non sequiturs.


  52. Gregor Samsa says:

    MichDem — Christians lend a helping hand and try to uplift those in need, not club down with bigotry, like Demcorats do.
    Comment by USA PATRIOT — January 18, 2006 @ 9:57 pm

    Yeah, Christians never go for bigotry -they never said that Katrina was a punishment from God for New Orleans’ “wickedness”:

    We must help and pray for those ravaged by this disaster, but let us not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long (…) May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits, and bring us trembling before the throne of Almighty God
    HURRICANE KATRINA DESTROYS NEW ORLEANS DAYS BEFORE “SOUTHERN DECADENCE”

    No Christian ever said that 9/11 was God’s punishment for gays, pagans, lesbians, etc:

    I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way — all of them who have tried to secularize America — I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’
    God Gave U.S. ‘What We Deserve,’ Falwell Says

    “Jerry, that’s my feeling (…) I think we’ve just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven’t even begun to see what they can do to the major population.”
    –Pat Robertson, in response to Jerry Falwell’s comments on the 9/11 attacks.

    I could also post quotes by Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart, but I think you get the idea.


  53. Evil Spaniard says:

    On topic again, IMHO, the USA as a whole (I know there are a lot of different people living in, and therefore many thinking trends), and towards international relationships, talks too much of “leadership” and too few of “cooperation” in relation of other countries. And this GOP, with his approach “with us or against us” in almost everything is far worser.

    Leadership is getting people doing what you want, but too many times the option taken is plain bullying or stagnation of international processes and treaties, if the USA hasn’t the upper hand, treating other countries as babies. Later, USA people has no clue about the world resentment against them.

    Too many times, the USA gop buys little immediate gains to lose bigger mid and long term gains, not only for the USA but for the world. Some examples: Kyoto Treaty, International Court, Geneva conventions, nuclear limitations, UN…

    Agreed, there are many countries in the world, and some have totalitarian regimes, or simply countries with different interests to those of the USA, but simply putting away good agreements to stay away of global law, thus letting other countries less democratic to mock of international laws and conventions based in your acting, using it as an excuse.

    Sorry, but I don’t understand such a behavior. If the USA is a democratic superpower, why have fear of the International Court? Or have fear of Kyoto? If Kyoto is so bad dessigned, why not fight from inside to change the next round of changes to include China and India? Doing it externally, you only have 6 or so countries in your alternative treaty, treaty who trusts in future technological developments (Star Trek anyone?) to solve actual problems, making a very strong PR campaing to ignore it and asserting that it would be bad for USA industry. So, is better to have a great industry for 30 years and then die of cancer due to bad air, flooding or heat wave, than act now and live 60 years more and let our sons a cleaner world…

    Or prosecuting Pinochet (a chilean dictator, condoned by the USA), dictator who killed the previous democratic ellected chilean President, Salvador Allende. Pinochet, dictator who kidnapped thousands of people and their non born children, only to torture them, and flew them in the Pacific Ocean to launch his bodies attached to train rails, to prevent his corpses to reach the shore. Dictator who has a fortune, product of his dictator’s years, hidden in USA in dozens of bank accounts. But hey, USA isn’t a member of the International Court, and getting to these accounts is a bigger problem… The new Cayman Islands…

    The Geneva conventions, and the multiple violations of them: torture, renditions, POWs (just a question, if there is a “War on Terror”, why those in Guantánamo aren’t considered Prisoners of War?).

    Well, there are many issues, but leading by example is one thing that lacks too much as of today.


  54. big papa says:

    This report obviously fails to take into account our success in taking out Midhat Mursi, 52, also known as Abu Khabab al-Masri, who has been identified by Pakistani authorities as one of three known al Qaeda leaders present at an apparent terror summit conference in the village of Damadola.

    Comment by Blue State Red #4

    Yo Fool’s State inbRed,

    Once agagin you’re spreading rumor and innuendo…

    No confirming DNA, no bodies, just Fox Propaganda network talking points…

    Prove he’s dead!

    Or shutthfu*kup…


  55. big papa says:

    As for this report, quite right…

    Under Bushiva’s leadership nuclear non-proliferation was setback 50 years…

    Now everybody wants a nuke…


  56. unbelievable says:

    Now everybody wants a nuke…

    Comment by big papa — January 19, 2006 @ 8:36 am

    big papa,

    Yep… They know Bush is crazy and defending yourself against such threats is mere;y survival instinct.

    Hell, I’m an American and a pacifist and he almost makes me want one…



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