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Comment by mighty aphrodite #177

Puny Hermaphrodite,

…with ignorant inbreds like yourself practicing “justice/jurisprudence” REALLY are cruel jokes…

Sense of purpose? What religious nonsense is that?

The architects you know must not be very good architects. The school Districts tell you what and how to design… there’s no creativity or room for ingenuity even if you can do it within the budget. It’s the most boring type of projects I have ever worked on. And most other architects consider school architects to be the C students…

And you do know that they name the schools after past and present board members, right? Don’t you get it? Are you that blind?

Please explain the economic theory of humanism – I must have missed it in my last economics class.

No, you just missed it period. There’s more to a society than economics. They are called ‘people’.

As an attorney, we must always know the opposition argument – we don’t have to agree with it.

Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 22, 2006 @ 2:46 pm

I never suggested you had to agree with it. Just that you don’t understand it. You don’t. And it’s very obvious to those of us who do.

Please explain the economic theory of humanism – I must have missed it in my last economics class.

As an attorney, we must always know the opposition argument – we don’t have to agree with it.

Thanks for taking the time to find and post this information. Like you, I do my homework before I start espousing opinions. When I was 25-27, I dated a guy whose father was an attorney. He said that it is ompossible to win an argument unless you not only know your position, but also the opposing position. Made sense. MA being an attorney does not.

Fundamentally, the AG’s argument boils down to this one sentence:

“The President has the chief responsibility under the Constitution to protect America from attack, and the Constitution gives the President the authority necessary to fulfill that solemn responsibility.”

But is it true? Let’s just take a peek at the Constitution of the United States.

Article 1 § 8 states:
The Congress shall have Power To … provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; …
• To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
• To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
• To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
• To provide and maintain a Navy;
• To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
• To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
• To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; … And
• To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
From the foregoing, one could conclude that the responsibility for protecting America from attack is really Congress’s. The President has a role to play, to be sure. He shall faithfully execute the laws that Congress passes.

Look. When a guy named Big Mitch tells you that bigger is not necessarily better, you gotta believe it.

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Strangely enough, though, Pat Robertson can ruffle the waters of international politics, for instance, by his foolish and unknowledgeable statements about Hugo Chavez and Ariel Sharon.

Think of the cowardly churchmen in history who buckled under to corrupt regimes. Open your eyes and see our corrupt administration, which is behaving like many of those infamous regimes we Americans so deplore. There is an old maxim, “What you resist, you become,” and that seems to be manifesting in our high-level warmongers.

I didn’t use the word always…

It has been my experience that those who often make such sweeping statements are consistently wrong 50% of the time.

Wrong 50% of the time would be a 50% improvement for you…

And when an assembly line worker or janitor makes $50K a year, what should we pay our teachers, secretaries, bakers, etc.? Your solution flies in the face of a capitalist system.

I know, I abhor Capitalism. Wanna trade it in for Humanism. And that number you assigned was yours.

How about giving people wage relief through tax relief? Wouldn’t that help working people by letting them keep more of their wages?

Tax relief as in no taxes? So who pays them? Clearly not the rich… not in your trickle down economic fairytale scheme…

According to your psycho-babble, more wages = higher self-esteem for kids.

Again, Magda, quit building bridges between two points that aren’t connected that simply. But in a Capitalistic society where sociao economics is the prevailing means for perspective, they are tied together, yes. Its’ why private schools have uniforms. To hide the socio-economic status of its students and prevent discrimination (only you can’t hide a $200 hair cut or diamond accessories)

When I quit the liberal movement, there were 187 (!!) programs to assist “at risk youth”. Translation: there were 187 sets of administrators to battle for their portion of the “at-risk” pie. By cutting redundant and overlapping programs, more could be achieved with less.

This conflicts with your other statements…

But, 187 programs where? How many kids? What were their functions? A broad statement like this is nonsensical… but I wouldn’t expect anything less from you.

Lily,

Oddly enough, MA and I agree on this point – too much weight at the top of our government and governmental institutions…

When I was an architect in California, my clients were the Boards of Education for different school districts in the area. Few to none of them had ever been in the classroom, and they governed on self-congratulatory theories that were so out of touch with reality and humanity that it’s no surprise the public school system is so inept at education.

We’ve fallen from #1 to #7 in terms of most educated countries. The kids in my classes routinely tell me how much they’ve grown to hate – yes, hate – school because they are treated appallingly (discipline and standardized test scores are the highest priorities) and are learning nothing interesting or relevent to the real world. I ask them what they want to learn, but my hands are still tied by those hierarchical administrators… it’s frustrating.

b.) STARTING salaries for elementary school teachers would be $75,000.- / year. Inner city (or other poor districts) elementary teachers would have starting salaries of $100,000.-/ year.

While this would be nice – if you do the math, and consider where the money comes from (property taxes of mostly the middle class), it’s not that simple. Salaries are not high enough to attract the most intelligent people most of the time. But as long as we put $360 billion into military and only $50 billion into education, raises are not in the future. Though, in exchange for some salary increases, I would prefer smaller class sizes. One teacher teaching 32 kids in the same room is almost impossible some days.

c.) NO social promotions – children’s educational development will fall farther and farther behind.

I’ve tried to explain this to her before… Failing students in middle or higher grades is ineffective. Plus, few parents want 17 year old boys in 7th grade with their 12 years old daughters…

d.) NO TENURE – this protects burned out and lazy teachers waiting to collect their pensions – children deserve better than that.

I might agree with this if the rest of the bugs were removed. At present, it’s compensating for all the other deficiencies, and if you remove it, the teacher shortage will become even worse…

Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 21, 2006 @ 7:49 pm

I can’t argue with this. Teachers are underpaid.

And when the promises fail to come true, these ’spiritual leaders’ simply blame the congregation for not praying enough or not being good enough.

Comment by unbelievable — January 21, 2006 @ 4:15 pm

Unfortunately, I think it’s more like not giving them enough money.

Unbelieved – “Raise salaries to a living wage for parents so they can spend more time nurturing and developing healthy self-esteem in the children they produce.”
****And when an assembly line worker or janitor makes $50K a year, what should we pay our teachers, secretaries, bakers, etc.? Your solution flies in the face of a capitalist system. How about giving people wage relief through tax relief? Wouldn’t that help working people by letting them keep more of their wages? According to your psycho-babble, more wages = higher self-esteem for kids. When I quit the liberal movement, there were 187 (!!) programs to assist “at risk youth”. Translation: there were 187 sets of administrators to battle for their portion of the “at-risk” pie. By cutting redundant and overlapping programs, more could be achieved with less.

To achieve fantastic public schools, I propose the following:
a.) get rid of the “dead weight” at the top of school hierarchies – too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
b.) STARTING salaries for elementary school teachers would be $75,000.- / year. Inner city (or other poor districts) elementary teachers would have starting salaries of $100,000.-/ year.
c.) NO social promotions – children’s educational development will fall farther and farther behind.
d.) NO TENURE – this protects burned out and lazy teachers waiting to collect their pensions – children deserve better than that.

Love to hear your thoughts….

I think so… not that that seems to count for much these days for either one of us :). Fear is such a powerful weapon for the right that in return for providing people unrealistic returns, they can get just about anything out of them. The kool-aid drinking, suicide pact cults are riddled with people who will do anything and everything to take away their feelings of worthlessness. And when the promises fail to come true, these ’spiritual leaders’ simply blame the congregation for not praying enough or not being good enough. It’s a perpetual cycle of sado-masochism that seems to have only one real menace – reality. And I agree that it’s why they continue to attack those of us who think for ourselves. We are a threat to the power they hold over others. Wasn’t it Tom Cruise who was spouting the evils of therapy? His whacko religion brainwashes them from any possible chance of recovery by making medical science ‘evil’…

Just wants to make you rush out an join up, eh? :)

I think you just in a nutshell described how the rightwing recruits. They draw in people with low self esteem who want to feel superior. That’s why there’s all of this pseudo babble from the rightwing about the ‘elitist’ left. Unless you have very low self esteem, you’d never see another group as elitist – only as selfish or self absorbed as a characteristic that you might not identify with.

Is that correct?

Comment by mighty aphrodite — January 21, 2006 @ 2:22 pm

People with high self-esteem are never arrogant or overly confident… only those with exceptionally low self-esteem who are trying to project an appearance of success. And it’s one of the biggest problems we have in this nation today. It’s why we’re called Prozac Nation. We’re a country filled with people who feel so worthless that they pretend to be successful in order to feel better about themselves. Why is this the case? Organized religions that call people ’sinners’ and make them beg for forgiveness for merely being human to some non-existent diety…

Wanna fix the problem with public schools? Raise salaries to a living wage for parents so they can spend more time nurturing and developing healthy self-esteem in the children they produce. Since the cultural indoctrination of a child occurs in the first 5 to 6 years of life – well before they ever arrive at the thresholds of the public school system.

This is like one of those Rove ‘questions’ where the question implies this person is you, but you’ve never actually said it – therefore you can ‘lie’ with impunity without having lied. Were you raised catholic? Because this kind of lying technique takes practice. Although you say you’re a lawyer, so clearly you’ve had post-religious training on the subject.

Now when you’re not afraid to lie anymore, and would care to share the truth, I’d love to hear what you have to say. How many grandchildren do you have?

You’re the one who ‘used’ your daughter in a story to insult someone, and called her an adult. Don’t blame me because it gave everyone the wrong idea about your elderly state. As for an age bias – why sweetie, anything but that’s true. I always worry about the elderly in this country – and you just come across as such an abandoned old lady I can’t help feel compassion for you. You seem so cold, bitter and disconnected from your community, how could one not have compassion for such a poor tortured soul as yourself?

And I didn’t assume anything except out of necessity. I asked, but you wouldn’t respond leaving one to have to assume the answers based on what flimsy evidence you had presented. It’s kind of like the march to war, you don’t always get to make an argument with all of the evidence, only the evidence that a republican pre-filters in order to try to shape and produce propaganda. Well dealing with you is much the same affair. I’m sure you have good intention, just like bushie did (somewhere deep inside), but you’re so busying managing your image and your outcome, that you forget to be human and to engage others as such. Don’t worry, I forgive you for the hatred, anger and fear that make people do such stupid things. I know it’s not really you, but instead your ‘hate’ and lack of ‘analysis’ that makes you this way.

And the schools are an easy thing to answer, it’s because are too afraid to pay taxes and provide equal opportunity to poor people – that’s why the schools are bad. After all, if everyone’s educated – who would clean their toilets? I bet you have maid for instance, and aren’t you glad you have public schools and a flimsy border so you can order someone around who hasn’t been fortunate enough to go to private school? Well sure you do.

And no matter what your age, clearly you’re just a miserable old lady inside who’s forgotten what it means to be young, to love, and to forgive. Religion has a way of doing that to people, all of the guilt and hate and all. You really should rethink your life there sweetie, because your postings show you aren’t happy with it, or the world. I feel pity for you. So much apparent ’success’, and so much unhappiness. You’re american beauty one handgun away from the evening news.