Halliburton gave troops contaminated drinking water.
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Halliburton gave troops contaminated drinking water.
“Troops and civilians at a U.S. military base in Iraq were exposed to contaminated water last year and employees for the responsible contractor, Halliburton, couldn’t get their company to inform camp residents, according to interviews and internal company documents.”
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Poisoning troops is not patriotic. Getting them home safely is.
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:39 pmOf course not, they can't go and do something that might make them look all weak and human or anything.
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:39 pmThinkProgress is not telling the truth:
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:40 pm
I just don't understand. Shouldn't there be some kind of standard where if you do shoddy work, you overcharge for your products and services, get convicted for numerous cases of fraud, and you harm your customers, you have to go out of business?
Oh wait, I guess that's called the "free market".
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:43 pmCome on, ThinkProgress, you're posting rank propaganda.
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:44 pmwallace is now 'believable' folks. Judd has asked that we ignore him - please.
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:44 pmWhy should someone be banned for simply quoting from the same article ThinkProgress linked to? That makes no sense at all.
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:46 pmLet them drink beer!
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:52 pmbelievable and classical liberal are the same person: wwallace.
This user was not banned for his comments on this thread, but for repeated violations of the Terms of Use. Specifically, personal attacks on other users.
Now this user clearly is intent on disrupting this blog and hijacking every thread. We aren't going to allow that to happen.
As for the Pentagon's denials, they are now the subject of a congressional investigation.
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:52 pmWell, I for one don't believe anyone from the government when they say something. I beleive a independant person much more than a person who is just following orders. We all know that if a medical commander is ordered to report nothing is wrong they are going to do that.
The only ones that wont are the ones that will end up in levenworth for not obeying an order. If an independant person says that this was happening, then I believe it until an Independant investigation states otherwise. For one thing, there seems to be enough proof that the water was contaminated according to the article. Especially since many soldiers were getting sick.
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:54 pmUN-F***ING-BELIEVABLE!!!!!
I cannot fathom this latest travesty!
Bush is by far the BIGGEST political idiot in all of American history.
OK. He's an idoit no matter how you slice it.
wallace is now ‘believable’ folks. Judd has asked that we ignore him - please.
Comment by unbelievable
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:57 pmAs to your post, unbelievable,
then why did Judd BAN Ryan - the only person here who could put him in his place?????
Yet assbag can continue to spout his garbage.
Yes, Judd, I know you offered the olive branch, albeit conditional, but you've wounded his pride and his right to Free Speech!
Why does shithead Wally still have that privilage here?
You made a huge mistake and should ask Ryan back--- no conditions.
My 2 cents.....
Ryan frequently had valuable contributions.
But he did not put wwallace in his place. In fact, he would frequently engage in lengthy, thread-destroying, diatribes with wwallace. It made the problem much worse.
If I'm serious about trying to create a community here, I need Ryan's word that he wouldn't do that again before I let him back in.
That's what I'm aiming to do here: create a community. Not a community where there is any one opinion. But a community where people express their opinions not call each other names.
Needless to say, it's a work in progress.
January 22nd, 2006 at 9:14 pmryan was breaking the rules, too, and it was only fair to ban him as well. he was taking wwallace's outbursts as giving him carte blanche to counterattack. he didn't deserve any slack just cos he was on the left. the threads have been better w/o both of them.
my 2 cents.
January 22nd, 2006 at 9:15 pmWell, it looks like the information is comingn from an interal KBR memo, so I don't see how it could benefit KBR to lie about something like that. In my experience, companies lie to cover up potentially harmful mistakes, not create them out of thin air.
If you think about it, the article cites "normal levels recorded in records from May 23rd", the contamination could just have happened in a different time frame.
Anyone who has ever owned a pool knows what happens within 24 hours if filtering equipment goes down
January 22nd, 2006 at 9:15 pmTrue Blue,
In the tradition of urban legends, it's been rumored that Ryan's ghost still haunts the hallowed halls of TP... spreading logics, facts and dispelling ignorance.
He's too smart to be an obvious specter - like the troublesome poltergeist of wallace who rampantly slams doors and throws pots and pans. No, Ryan is not forgotten, and though we all miss him dearly, we know that his essence is still with us...
January 22nd, 2006 at 9:18 pm[Comment deleted by admin.]
January 22nd, 2006 at 9:19 pmpoor walt. keep insulting people if it makes you feel better.
January 22nd, 2006 at 9:23 pm#20,
January 22nd, 2006 at 9:27 pmI never insult people - only lower organisms.
Little this administration does these days surprises me anymore. If they want to surprise me, they will need to do something honest, self-less and kind...
And Halliburton IS a part of this Administration. They wouldn't be in Iraq now if it weren't for Peeping George and Dick-tator blowing the place up...
I saw a 60 minutes episode last season in which a soldier was complaining about having to guard these Halliburton employees when he was paid a fraction of their salary and put at greater risk because of them. Can't say I blame him.
January 22nd, 2006 at 9:28 pmHey Walt:
Me is also wwallace. So the best thing to do is just ignore him. Insulting him (or any other right-wing poster) is exactly what they want you to do. All they want is attention. Sticking to the topic is the best way to get them.
January 22nd, 2006 at 9:29 pmJudd, I do believe extreme unction — might be IRI. Dont know though
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:08 pmBy the way Judd, I like your Blog.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:09 pmSticking to Discovering Facts of truth. Isn,t this what everyone should be doing?
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:11 pmBecause we allready KNOW The Big Fat Lie.
And T.P. IS Doing a GREAT JOB!
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:12 pmJust dont give up.
and, if, you do. we understand.
By the way, Don,t worry so much about Ryan. He is here under Chinese disguise(hehe).
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:15 pmHello Mr Ho. Glad you are here.
and(no freedom never left either)
On this blog, or any other, a good motto to go by regarding folks like concerned liberal, unbelievable, wwwwwwwwwwallllllacccccccce, et al, is "Don't feed the trolls".
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:16 pmTheresa — On this blog, or any other, a good motto to go by
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:18 pmSticking to Discovering Facts of truth. Isn,t this what everyone should be doing?
Because we allready KNOW The Big Fat Lie.
Find out the Truth just keeps uncovering the Lies this Admin got us into. I.E...WMDS,Axis of evil, Mission accomplished, ETC...
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:20 pmAnd T.P. is doing a good job of researching. Hope they are compensated for it.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:21 pmNow, with the ideology aside, can't we get back to the thread - Halliburton has poisoned (or infected) our armed forces on a no-bid contract.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:26 pmCant wait till T.P. starts discovring Crooked Preachers and Ministers, that ought to be lengthy.I.E...Jimmy swaggart, James Baker, Jim Jones, Binny Hinn, CREFLOWMINISTRY...
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:27 pmI could go on and on about these crooks of LIES.
Cant means tilt - Can't means cannot.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:30 pmHalliburton tried to so called distance themselves from a sub of halliburton. KBR(kelloggs Brown and Root) Which is now Known as VBR, Vinnel Brown and Root.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:32 pmI know, I worked for them in Kandahar, Bahgram, and site K-2. The Cooks Make as much as 6 to 7 thousand dollars a month, tax free.
kbr uses the local nationals as K.Ps Kitchen Police.
Trash detail, port a potty cleaners, etc... I could go on and on, but its lengthy.
Anyone can make a mistake, its those who can admit it, and apologize, whom are most respected.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:32 pmWalt, according to the story Judd linked to:
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:34 pm
For Truth — and that is the truth. not many willing to Admit. Sometimes mistakes are Intentional, they just name it a mistake, I.E. Abramoff, Colin Powell, Condi Rice,... Just to name a few.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:35 pm#37,
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:38 pmMrs Atkinson, my 5th grade teacher, disagrees - I have two white lines on my butt to prove it.
There is a bigger problem overthere know as sandflies, these littlr drainflys carrie a disease know as leishmaniasis. here are some articles on it.
http://www.museums.org.za/bio/euglenozoa/leishmania.htm
Subfamily: Phlebotominae (sandflies)
(Life; Kingdom: Metazoa (animals); Phylum: Arthropoda; Class: Hexapoda; Order: Diptera; Suborder: Nematocera; Infraorder: Psychodomorpha; Superfamily: Psychodoidea; Family: Psychodidae)
Sandflies (Phlebotominae) are blood suckers and their larvae inhabit places where there is high organic matter such as in animal burrows, termite hills and tree holes. Sandflies are best known as vectors of trypanosome species in the genus Leishmania, causing diseases collectively known as leishmaniasis.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 pmanother problem is the Burning Cancer causing Toxics from the Burning Oils.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:44 pmI would not Doubt That the Story Is Credible.
The water over there is Handled through KBR(VBR) Halliburtons subsidary. even though halliburton tries to disconnect thier ties.
Ryan,
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:45 pmSorry - I was just relying on European and Aisian sources. they seem to conflict with what we're getting from CNN and Faux.
you could probably google search and find many facts about the dangers in Iraq and Afganistan.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:46 pmCobras and Sandvipers(Sawscales)Snakes are a common threat.
( I was Vector control while there).
Correction -
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:49 pmRyan,
Sorry - I was just relying on European and Asian sources. they seem to conflict with what we’re getting from CNN and Faux.
Ryan — Dont Dismiss the Story yet.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:50 pmBeside , this is not THE Ryan.wwallace, clever lil devil.
DOnt be fooled Walt.
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:51 pmFlashback,
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:54 pmDo not be concerned, my last IQ test came out as twice W's.
HUA
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:56 pmSorry, Meant HAU. for you who dont know military slang, HAU means
January 22nd, 2006 at 10:58 pmHeard
and
Understood.
And SNAFU means ...
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:00 pmmr ho say Mr cheney ho give troops problem. mr ho give Rover bone.
mr ho want to kno...
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf
S. REPT. NO. 107- 351 107TH CONGRESS, 2D SESSION H. REPT. NO. 107-792
[A number of U. S. Government officials complained to the Joint Inquiry about a
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:01 pmlack of Saudi cooperation in terrorism investigations both before and after the September
11 attacks.
]. A high-level U. S. Government officer cited greater Saudi
cooperation when asked how the September 11 attacks might have been prevented. In
May 2001, the U.S. Government became aware that an individual in Saudi Arabia was in
contact with a senior al-Qa’ida operative and was most likely aware of an upcoming al-
Qa’ida operation. [
mr ho say big hos big stories
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:02 pmHEY RYA-er, Mr. HO. DAT TOP SECRET MY FRIEND,HOHOHOHO
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:06 pmWalt,
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:08 pmWhat is SNAFU?
Situation Normal All Fvcked Up. Is that decent Judd?
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:13 pmWould you trust the military water quality folks? Also note that the original complaint was March guy RESIGNED APRIL investigation in MAY. Gee, I wonder if they made their water acceptable...
btw, the 'experts' assume that the troops won't consume any of that water - the coffee deal sort of puts that to rest.
Anyone want to bathe in sewage?
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:19 pmHalliburton serves contaminated water to troops - whistleblower (HalliburtonWatch) 20 Sep 2005
"Outrage overflowed on Capitol Hill this summer when members of Congress learned that Halliburton's dining halls in Iraq had repeatedly served spoiled food to unsuspecting troops... But the outrage apparently doesn't end with spoiled food. Former KBR employees and water quality specialists, Ben Carter and Ken May, told HalliburtonWatch that KBR knowingly exposes troops and civilians to contaminated water from Iraq's Euphrates River. One internal KBR email provided to HalliburtonWatch says that, for 'possibly a year,' the level of contamination at one camp was two times the normal level for untreated water."
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/contamination.html
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:25 pmFlashback,
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:27 pmSorry, I may be off a war or two.
RDD — That says it all.
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:30 pmHalliburton Corruptoration at its BEST !
(Corporation)
Sounds about right though.
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:31 pmSituation Normally All Fvcked Up
Gdnite all, Judd , T.P. Keep up the GOOD FIGHT.
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:32 pmFor one good man to do nothing, er, I forget how that gos.
#61,
January 22nd, 2006 at 11:33 pmIt's a WWII acronym.
Hay Walt, do you know the time frame of fubar and clusterf***.? Know what they mean and were common in manufacturing where I worked many years but can't recall the time frame. Thank's in advance....Blessings
January 23rd, 2006 at 12:01 amSome of the returning soldiers sound like their water is being contaminated with Cool Aid that the administrations passes out.
January 23rd, 2006 at 12:12 am#3, 5, etc
Read the rest of the friggin' article!
A July 14, 2005, memo showed that Halliburton's public relations department knew of the problem.
"I don't want to turn it into a big issue right now," staff member Jennifer Dellinger wrote in the memo, "but if we end up getting some media calls I want to make sure we have all the facts so we are ready to respond."
January 23rd, 2006 at 12:12 amHell, let's give 'em a bonus!!!
Halliburton gets $72 million bonus for work in Iraq 10 May 2005
The U.S. Army said on Tuesday it had awarded $72 million in bonuses to Halliburton Co. for logistics work in Iraq but had not decided whether to give the Texas company bonuses for disputed dining services to troops.
http://www.political-news.org/breaking/10268/halliburton-gets-3672-million-bonus-for-work-in-iraq.html
Unbelievable!
January 23rd, 2006 at 12:13 amextreme unction,
The problem is that Ryan Neat is now gone and wwallace continues to post under different names. So, what you are really saying is that the threads are better with Ryan Neat gone. So, we lost one while wwallace continues to post.
How about I-RIGHT-I. All he posts are personal attacks. It really gets old.
January 23rd, 2006 at 12:28 amryan n.e.a.t-take the olive branch. give judd a chance to keep iri & wwallace out.
January 23rd, 2006 at 12:43 amLooks like Bush's environmntal policies have made it took Iraq.
January 23rd, 2006 at 12:53 amJoefriday, and everyone else - just noticed the thread and wanted to say thanks for the call for my return. I already told Judd that if he enforced the rules consistently I would be happy to comply with them. His allowance of hate speech from I-RIGHT-I, Gary Ruppert, MightyTranny and wwallace is what drove me to attack back in the first place. If Judd would do his job or hire someone more capable to do it, and actually enforce the terms of use consistently, I'd be more than happy to comply with those terms myself.
I got sick of accepting hate speech that was often directed specifically at me by those hate merchants. The slack mismanagement of the terms of use by Judd called for a response - even if Judd was incapable or unwilling to deliver it himself. Before he banned me I called for him to do more, and do his job - and the result was me being banned, and him leaving most of the most horrendous and vile trolls free to post ILLEGAL HATE SPEECH!
Just so everyone knows, I responded very clearly to Judd's email, and asked him why I was the only person being forced to comply with the terms. Why must I be 'special' and agree to them, when he does not hold trolls accountable to them. Am I supposed to return, and just take the homophobic, hate speech that I-RIGHT-I/MightyTranny delivered daily without response? Because heaven knows, Judd won't stop them.
When he wouldn't answer, I began sending him emails with the latest racist rants from I-RIGHT-I, or the hate rhetoric from mighty aphrodite and wwallace, and ask why those violations were being permitted. His response was childish and irresponsible. Judd had the ba11$ to tell me that the only reason he hadn't banned I-RIGHT-I was because I pointed out his violation of the terms. I thought the point of the terms of use were specifically to say, don't print racist or other hate speech - yet I can pull up dozens of racist, homophobic and sexist hate speech right now.
That prick wwallace was right about one thing, and that's Judd's more interested in his personal ego than properly administering the blog. The only two people who were banned were wwallace and me, and we were the only ones that were openly critical of Judd not enforcing the terms of use. It's clear that wwallace's criticism were stupid tongue in cheek nonsense as always, but he himself was an example of how Judd wasn't doing his job. I can understand him getting rid of wwallace, but in my case it was clear retaliation and childish hypocrisy on the part of Judd. I responded to wwallace because Judd wouldn't - pure and simple.
I have tremendous respect for the research and clarity that Judd often brings to threads and the arguments - but like most bright minds, he clearly suffers from egotistical and irrational bouts from time to time. His handling of me was just such a bout. His blog, and his right to be an a$$, just like it's my right to say I don't want to post and contribute for a self righteous hypocrit, I'd go over to one of the rightwing blogs if I wanted that.
So everyone knows, I have a lot of interests, responsibilities and activities in my life, and I am unwilling to invest more time in posting here. Especially when Judd has made it clear that he's going to be uneven and unfair in his enforcement of the rules. Because he remains as irrational and hypocritical as he was with me, I'm taking time off from contributing and posting. And Judd, you talks a fine game about wanting government to be consistent and not hypocritical - try living up to your own criticism some time, I'd respect you a lot more. I will believe you more when your own actions are more noble and less inconsistent and juvenile.
And I want to share with the belog that I'm convinced that I-RIGHT-I and mighty aphrodite are in fact tied to Judd in some way. When I complained about a specific set of rants from I-RIGHT-I, Judd said they hadn't all been posted by I-RIGHT-I. How would he know that? How would he know which I-RIGHT-I is 'real'? Sorry, but that's way to suspicious to be a coincidence. I now strongly believe that Judd is 'salting' the blog with dissent and controversy to create interest by having someone or even himself pose as I-RIGHT-I. It would explain why I-RIGHT-I was completely different over the holidays when Judd was on vacation.
Other blogs have been known to do this sort of fakery, and based on his email, it's clear he doesn't get rid of specific posters because he 'knows' them or 'is' them.
Judd, I hope you get your act together, and when and if you do let me know - not that I believe you'll have either the guts or accountability to do so.
January 23rd, 2006 at 1:27 amComment by RnEa t
Who cares, C-Ya!
RDD, part of what you quoted:"Halliburton’s dining halls in Iraq had repeatedly served spoiled food to unsuspecting troops" reminds me of something I read not all that long ago (maybe here even!) about staff cafeterias in either KBR or another sub of Haliburton.
What was happening is that the American staff, 'imported' staff, engineers, office staff etc., felt so bad about the food that was being dished up to the native Iraqi and Jordanian, Kuwaiti (you get the idea), that they save some of their own meals, or even bought extra, so that they could give this to the 'hired help'. Said was garbage crap the Mid east workers were getting, cruel and slop (my parphrasing) and unpalatable crap to eat.
I think it is no surprise to see this untreated water reports, I have the strong impression there is very serious abuse of a servile class going on. The mid-easterners are desperate for any work, and get exploited immensely.
PS RnEa t, but I have a forum, and have moderated sveral large ones (50,000 hits a day, 100,000 members) and I spot all the characteristics that tell me all about you. Sorry if I don't have sympathy, okay?
January 23rd, 2006 at 7:14 amRyan frequently had valuable contributions.
But he did not put wwallace in his place. In fact, he would frequently engage in lengthy, thread-destroying, diatribes with wwallace. It made the problem much worse.
If I’m serious about trying to create a community here, I need Ryan’s word that he wouldn’t do that again before I let him back in.
Sadly, that is true, but I do think that was their intent, to needle Ryan until he got banned. And make no mistake about it, their personal attacks on Ryan were merciless and occurred first. If you would just ban the idiots and let Ryan back in that would be great. There is nothing wrong with dissent. People like Ruppert and Wallace don't contribute dissenting opinions. As I said, that is not their intent. It would be nice to have real debate. Regurgitating talking points is no substitute for debate. In fact, real debate is not possible for them. They don't like to lose.
January 23rd, 2006 at 7:18 amSo it is not the Kool-Aid. It is the water. But my phone is still being tapped and the wing nuts are not delusional. Too much reality for one Monday morning
January 23rd, 2006 at 7:51 amOn this blog, or any other, a good motto to go by regarding folks like concerned liberal, unbelievable, wwwwwwwwwwallllllacccccccce, et al, is “Don’t feed the trollsâ€.
Comment by Theresa — January 22, 2006 @ 10:16 pm
That should be 'believable'... he was using part of my name. I'm a liberal, not a troll. Just wanted to clarify.
January 23rd, 2006 at 7:55 amSo everyone knows, I have a lot of interests, responsibilities and activities in my life, and I am unwilling to invest more time in posting here. Especially when Judd has made it clear that he’s going to be uneven and unfair in his enforcement of the rules.
Too bad. You most certainly did put them in their places. That's why they worked on you and got you banned. I watched it happen over the last year. From Judd's perspective, he has to work at being non-partisan. It's not easy. Much easier to run a forum like Freep or any right wing blog and just ban dissent. I know of a few forums where you could post whatever without fear, and even invite your "little friends" over so they could get the beating they so richly deserve. Let me know if you are interested. It's almost like a liberal/progressive Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler, (which is where I used to go to develop my armor, until I figured out they were just chihuahuas, no bark or bite, just yap and quiver). I think you just let it get personal, let it get to you. You can't let them do that.
January 23rd, 2006 at 7:55 amAnd I want to share with the belog that I’m convinced that I-RIGHT-I and mighty aphrodite are in fact tied to Judd in some way. When I complained about a specific set of rants from I-RIGHT-I, Judd said they hadn’t all been posted by I-RIGHT-I. How would he know that? How would he know which I-RIGHT-I is ‘real’? Sorry, but that’s way to suspicious to be a coincidence. I now strongly believe that Judd is ’salting’ the blog with dissent and controversy to create interest by having someone or even himself pose as I-RIGHT-I. It would explain why I-RIGHT-I was completely different over the holidays when Judd was on vacation.
Judd can't tell "who" is posting under the name but he can tell when the posts come from different IPs. Maybe IRI posts from home and from friend's houses as well, or from work, or who knows? Maybe someone else was using the name. Judd is trolling the blog? That's what you are suggesting. Maybe you do need a break.
January 23rd, 2006 at 8:10 amResponse to Ryan Neat. I miss your insight and great posts of the past. Guess skimming the posts I missed much of what was happening with you and the trolls. I often pass right over much of what they say and ignore their posts because they are simply baiting, slamming or changing the subject. Right, Mighty,and Wallace are a waste of my time and space here. Said it before and will add it again, this sight is loosing a lot of it's luster with you and your posts gone...Maybe that is why so many other good posters have been missing, they like me got tired and bored with the troll crap.....Blessings to you Ryan.
January 23rd, 2006 at 8:20 amJudd, I applaud you for trying to keep the discourse civil. As one who has been attacked for simply voicing a different opinion I appreciate the attempt.
January 23rd, 2006 at 8:20 amSome of the returning soldiers sound like their water is being contaminated with Cool Aid that the administrations passes out.
Comment by Dreary Urbanite #62
Dreary,
Their parents gave Halliburton and the criminal Bushite "administration" the recipe...
January 23rd, 2006 at 8:40 amTwo HUGE ??s I have:
1) When Bunnatine Greenhouse, (a procurement specialist @ I believe the Pentagon), blew the whistle on "no bid" contracts to Halliburton risking her livelihood by testifying to a congressional committee, then was summarily demoted a few months later WHY didn't the Democrats in the House and Senate form a ring around her and protect her?
(same with FBI translator Sybil Edmonds who was fired...)
2) Why hasn't the MSM used their resources and personnel to find the OBVIOUS profiteering link btwn Bushiva (and his family) and L'il Dick (and his family) and Halliburton have?
Something is rotten in Washington and throughout the MSM...
January 23rd, 2006 at 8:48 amheckuva way to support the troops!
January 23rd, 2006 at 8:58 amAnd this is supporting the troops - how?
January 23rd, 2006 at 9:37 amHalliburton is entering the modern lexicon as synonymous with greed and corruption. Much like Enron.
What is sad about all this is the Republicans' lack of concern regarding this. From the news article:
Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., who will chair the session, held a number of similar inquiries last year on contracting abuses in Iraq. He said Democrats were acting on their own because they had not been able to persuade Republican committee chairmen to investigate.
This lack of concern sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Think these accusations have no merit? Well, let me tell you all one thing. I know of a family who has suffered because of the issue of contaminated water in Iraq. Two members of our church have a son who was a soldier in Iraq and was told by those in charge that the water was safe to drink. He did, and has suffered major health problems since. I'm not sure when this happened, but next week I will try and get more info. One thing I remember his Mom saying when she was telling all of us about this, is that "You'll hear more about this." I do believe she said the water was from a river, but I don't remember her giving the name. By the grace of his determination and support from his family and friends, this young man has been able to make a life for himself outside of the military. He takes many medications on a daily basis to keep himself alive, and works in a police department. He is unwilling to give up.
January 23rd, 2006 at 9:45 amIMHO
January 23rd, 2006 at 9:48 amI understand why Ryan Neat was banned (because of the food fights he engaged with the trolls), but I miss his very informed comments I wish he would come back.
I am happy that wwallace is banned (because he is pointless and posts so many ad hominem attacks), but I don't understand why he can continually pop up using different names. If Ryan Neat came back with a different name would he be able to post? And why is IRI allowed to remain? His posts are probably the meanest, vile comments I've read here, yet he is permitted.
#61 - Sharon Cox — January 23, 2006 @ 12:01 am
January 23rd, 2006 at 9:58 amThere is a web site (answers.com) where you can find this sort of stuff out. It seems that FUBAR is a product of Nam, but some sources attribute it to WWII and a variation (FOOBAR) to Nam.
I, fo one, am one of those who misses RYAN's insight into this thread?
The mere concept that you have a BLOG, with restrictions kinda defeats the purpose for the forum...I mean either you are a news outlet, or you will invite opinions from both sides...
Now, there should be minimal moderation of terms, and with that I agree. But, when someone initiates the diatribe, then there is enough to go around. I mean ANY writer for TP can be accused of name calling, if that were the case...
RYAN was a GREAT person and friend within this forum and even when we did not agree, you knew that his commenst were factual and on point...
Does TP want truth without controversy or does it want to control the opinions of those who may have hard edge comments to counter the lies of others?
Keep BANGIN' RYAN!!!
I am finally free of my service obligation and "if" there were more like you, then there would be people who are willing to forego politics and tell people how it really is...
January 23rd, 2006 at 10:10 amSomething is rotten in Washington and throughout the MSM
Comment by big papa — January 23, 2006 @ 8:48 am
Very true. They are definately in bed together.
I can't seem to get away from the questions:
Why isn't there some dissent in the MSM?
Why do we have no real news?
There must be people out there with more money than God, who would have it in their best interest to develop some credible news channels, but no.
Off topic... I kind of miss Ryan's slapping of the trolls.
January 23rd, 2006 at 10:32 amOf course this is a lie. But it's pretty ironic for Judd, who gets paid to attack other people, to object to that very practice.
January 23rd, 2006 at 10:34 amMiss ya' Ryan Neat. Your insight was appreciated daily by me and I learned a lot from you. Hell, it's easy enough to skip posts when you see who they are coming from. I never felt sidetracked by your posts.
January 23rd, 2006 at 11:03 amUSA Patriot, formerly known as wwallace, has been banned from posting on this site. This user, however, continually switches IP addresses and email address to post to this site.
We need to cooperation of users on this site to enforce the ban. Stop engaging him. It’s impossible to moderate his comments if the entire thread is responding to his remarks.
Thanks.
Comment by Judd — January 22, 2006 @ 6:35 pm
January 23rd, 2006 at 11:06 amIf you read between the lines, it seems Ryan's opinion and presence was becoming too dominant here, and the excuse of baiting and arguing with the trolls was used to ban him. Right Punch, is Ryan turned down to 1( from 10), still good though.
January 23rd, 2006 at 12:22 pmI would have been shocked 5 years ago, but with this administration nothing this horrible comes as a shock anymore. Support our troops and impeach the liars!
Bravery - Something the Current Administration Lacks.
January 23rd, 2006 at 1:17 pmThis is a 4 minute long animation about the war in Iraq.
http://www.peacetakescourage.com/bravery.html
Judd, I applaud you for trying to keep the discourse civil. As one who has been attacked for simply voicing a different opinion I appreciate the attempt.
Comment by Concerned Conservative
Now that is just crap. And a good example of why your sincerity was questioned as often as it was defended by people here. You were never attacked like Ryan was. I will suggest that you are borderline, not quite as bad Mighty Aphrodite, and you never convinced me completely. Ryan did react to the attacks and that was unfortunate. I dare you to find one example where you were insulted in the fashion Ryan was, or sadly in the fashion he often responded to those little turds. It's not an ad hominem attack to call a Ted Bundy a monster or wallace a Ruppert a turd.
January 23rd, 2006 at 1:30 pmSAVE OUR TROOPS AND SAVE THE IRAQI PEOPLE
January 23rd, 2006 at 8:33 pmTummy Water
January 23, 2006
Halliburton made a new splash in the news over the same old infraction: Poisoning our troops in Iraq. In “Halliburton hit over troops’ exposure to tainted water†by Larry Margasak Halliburton is accused of exposing U.S. soldiers with contaminated water last July and had done its best not to inform the troops. Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., said the Democrats are pushing for an investigation since the Republicans had done their best to stonewall any oversights. Halliburton had time after time abused its trust and responsibilities in servicing the needs to our troops. But when will our military organizations in this country will rise up in ire to confront President Bush and Halliburton former CEO, Cheney, to the destructive and degrading treatment of our troops in Iraq? Worse, why allow Bush to speak in their organizations such as the VFW in Washington last Jan.12 when the Bush administration have allowed rotten food, refused to provide body armor, rip off of their health benefits, and then extending their tour of duty over and over of our troops? Will Bush take a sip of that Halliburton’s water? We know the answer to that, don’t we.
January 24th, 2006 at 3:51 amA pair of things:
One, this problem comes from outsourcing military tasks to private corporatios, in plus without bidding and in plus one who is cozy with the VP. Privatizing everything doesn't look too convenient here. Profit is profit, and purifying plants for water are expensive.
Two. Nobody in the thread has stopped in a simple thing: this water is the very same water almost every Iraqi in Baghdad drinks every day. Including children, and yes, including non born children in his mothers' wombs. Maybe is most pure.
January 24th, 2006 at 11:10 amDave...
Interesting topic... I'm working in this industry myself and I don't agree about this in 100%, but I added your page to my bookmarks and hope to see more interesting articles in the future...
November 14th, 2006 at 11:30 am