McCain: Bush Does Not Have “The Legal Authority To Engage In These Warrantless Wiretaps”
McCain: Bush Does Not Have “The Legal Authority To Engage In These Warrantless Wiretaps”
Today on Fox News Sunday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said Bush’s warrantless domestic wiretapping program is illegal:
WALLACE: But you do not believe that currently he has the legal authority to engage in these warrant-less wiretaps.
MCCAIN: You know, I don’t think so, but why not come to Congress? We can sort this all out. I don’t think — I know of no member of Congress, frankly, who, if the administration came and said here’s why we need this capability, that they wouldn’t get it. And so let’s have the hearings.
McCain is the latest addition to a growing list of prominent conservatives — including Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA), Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) and Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) — who have expressed serious concerns about the legality of the program.
Karl Rove doesn’t want to spin it this way but concern about the warrantless domestic spying program is bipartisan.
UPDATE: Crooks and Liars has the video.
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Support for it was bi-partisan, also. Jane Harmon was very revealing today. There is every indication that the leniency afforded Alito about presidential powers is because key Democrats supported NSA spying.
January 22nd, 2006 at 12:20 pmI agree. Let’s have the hearings. Let’s find out just exactly why Bush felt he could circumvent the law. Let’s find out just exactly why Bush felt he needed to behave like Royalty and do whatever he wanted.
If we can’t impeach this guy, we’re very a sorry republic indeed.
January 22nd, 2006 at 12:21 pmLeniency during the hearings, I should clarify.
January 22nd, 2006 at 12:21 pmOh, and this isn’t a Democrat problem. We’ve already heard from Dems’ who told Bush “No!”
This is a Repug problem. Pure. Simple.
It’s time to Impeach the b****d Bush!!!
January 22nd, 2006 at 12:22 pmAsk Jane Harmon why she felt Bush had the right to circumvent the law. Because she agrees with Bush. She is an intelligence commitee Democrat!
January 22nd, 2006 at 12:23 pmThe only hearings we need are IMPEACHMENT hearings! Bush has the authority through FISA to conduct this intelligence gathering. There is a reason why he did not go through FISA and it probably isn’t something that the administration wants the country to know. There is no need to give this administation any more authority - look at the abuse of the authority that they already have!
January 22nd, 2006 at 12:38 pmHearings will do no good because they will continue to lie about the reason for intelligence gathering just like they have lied about everything else for the last 5 years. You can’t get the truth from this administration, so putting them under oath and questioning them for days will still get us nowhere. The answer to every question will be “Answering that question will compromise national security”.
January 22nd, 2006 at 12:44 pmSo then when are Democrats who believe this going to introduce legislation to give the president the authority? Or are they uninterested in surveillance of al Qaeda?
January 22nd, 2006 at 12:51 pm#8, see #6
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:03 pm#8 Its a little more complicated than just saying OK you can do this. You need to make boundries and say what can an can’t be done. Not that this will mean ANYTHING to Bush because he will just do what the hell he wants anyway. The problem is what is going on now with GOOGLE. Bush is trying to spy on everyone. He wants to know who is doing what and if they are for or against him.
This is the problem. Bush IS A DICTATOR! It’s not that he is fighting terror, because he is NOT. He has no concern over terrorists. Quote “I just don’t think of him much anymore” in regards to OBL. Also, one of the High Ranking DOD personnel “OBL was never our objective”. So you see, there is not effort being made to fight terror. It is a ploy to keep cowards like you in the corner shivering with your little blankie.
Don’t worry, the real Americans will keep you safe from yourself by protecting your civil liberties.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:04 pmvesparia, #6 is hysterical partisan pap.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:05 pm#10 is nothing but crazy talk. Of course great efforts are being made to fight terrorism. Only a complete kook would state otherwise.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:06 pmWell, USA Patriot, it’s not up to Democrats to introduce the legislation—better check your own party who has control of all legislation effecting the government.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but being uninterested in surveillance of al Qaeda has nothing to do with it. Even Republicans John McCain, Larry Craig, Graham, Lugar, etc. have misgivings about the invasion of privacy of Americans just because Bush sees a blood-thirsty terrorist at the end of every phone line. Frankly, I think they are really more concerned on keeping tabs who is opposing them politically, who Cindy Sheehan talks with, or which Democrats can be caught in a scandal they can use in 2006/2008.
By the way, your handle, “USA Patriot” is pretty cool the way it implies everyone else here is some kind of unamerican turncoat. Frankly, I think USA Dipshit sounds better.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:09 pmJohn McCain, we won’t forget your latest betrayal in 2008.
McCain is basically a hooker for the Liberal Media.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:10 pmGary Ruppert — USA Patriot —
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:13 pmwe won’t forget your latest betrayal
Gary Ruppert — USA Patriot —
is basically hookers for the Conservative Media. (FOX)
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:15 pm
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:15 pmUSA Ruppert, you’re wrong. So is Gary Patriot.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:16 pmJohn McCain, we Forgive and will forget your latest betrayal in 2008
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:19 pmJohn McCain, we won’t forget your latest betrayal in 2008.
McCain is basically a hooker for the Liberal Media.
Comment by Gary Ruppert
Yeah, well, Mccain shouldn’t worry about 2008 anyway. McCain is pro-choice and broad-minded.
Correct me if I’m wrong, he hasn’t got a sailor’s chance in Hell of getting past the Christian Right’s grip on the Repugnican party.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:20 pmI’d just like to thank Gary USA and Patriot Ruppert for all the hits they are giving ThinkProgress. Every comment they post makes this site more popular, prosperous, & successful. Great work!
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:22 pmUSA Ruppert/Gary Patriot/WWally …
useful only if one enjoys banging head into brick wall…
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:23 pmUSA Patriot is not Gary Rupert. That is wwallace.
Tag your it.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:29 pmYes, patrick, as a conservative, rightwing dipstick myself, I rather appreciate the help they give me holding up the right point of view here.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I sure wish they would back up what they say with a few facts instead of just throwing up those some old wornout cliches.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I think I will call the information operator in Pakistan and get myself wiretapped by the NSA, if I ain’t all ready.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:29 pmDo you think that Karl Rove would like to put a wiretap on Patrick Fitzgerald?
What’s to stop him?
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:34 pmLet’s see. If the repubs control congress and have hearings on their leader, what can we expect? Let’s see, how much informaion generally comes out of hearings in which the repubs have a majority on the committee and want to make the prez look good? Answer: Zip, nada, zilch…. McCain is always looking to present himself as the middel of the road repub/dem. Actually, he’s a repub who will toe the line when necessary. He’s setting up the dems for another fall. Why doesn’t he ask for an independent investigation? Congress has clearly dropped the ball and why should the controlling party look to damage (further) their leader? They will not….so hearings will simply be a distraction from all the other crap being played by this prez.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:35 pmJoe, “Well, USA Patriot, it’s not up to Democrats to introduce the legislation”
Why not? Why don’t all the Democrats in the Senate just quit and go home if they’re not going to do anything?
They have the ability to introduce legislation if they’re concerned about it. They’re obviously not concerned about it. They’d rather play partisan games than defend America from terrorists.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:45 pmMcCain is being a wuss yet again
look, McCain needed to dress the president down when the president stabbed him in the back YET AGAIN at the signing of the anti terror bill…actually claiming he STILL had the right to torture.
McCain has lost any kind of credibility and has to do something in public about what the president did
in addition, McCain HAS to know the president can get any warrant he wants after the search is conducted
there is NOTHING to “work out”…there is NOTHING lost in expedience or efficiency by what the president claims to have the right to do
if McCain has an ambition at leadership he has GOT to take the reigns NOW
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:45 pmyou aren’t serious, are you?
the democrats cannot introduce bills, they are not even given offical status to conduct a friggin hearing
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:47 pmDo you think that Karl Rove would like to put a wiretap on Patrick Fitzgerald?
What’s to stop him?
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:48 pmYou’re obviously a master of the parlimentary system.
The fact is that Democrats can introduce bills on anything. They just refuse to do so.
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:55 pmThey can introduce all the bills they want to, but it doesn’t mean anything if the Republicans won’t allow votes on them or steal Democrat ideas and take credit for them. The only way the legality of Bush’s illegal domestic spying program on Americans with no ties to terrorists will be questioned is if a Republican does it. They are the only ones who can people to pay attention to it and take it seriously both in Congress and the media.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:01 pmGary,
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:04 pmI don’t frequent Red blogs. Are they discussing the Democratic support for the NSA wiretaps?
They [democrats] have the ability to introduce legislation if they’re concerned about it. They’re obviously not concerned about it. They’d rather play partisan games than defend America from terrorists.
Comment by USA Patriot
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you have a good point about playing partisan games. Like the way Bush’s war on terror has not killed or captured Osama bin Laden, his second in command with the birdshit on his forehead, a one-eyed Talaban cleric or any other major players in this war: they are necessary to scare the crap out of the old people and assure the votes for the Repugnican party.
I mean, isn’t it just amazing how tapes of OBL surface just before an election, a major slippage in the polls, or just in time to help Bush remind the sheeple who it is protecting them from a ruthless killer?
Naw, I’m with you here about the use of partisan politics. Think they would get OBL before the 2006 elections when without OBL there would be no GWB? Of course not. He’s the best thing that ever happened to junior.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:09 pmActually, No Child Left Behind was a Democrat introduced bill.
The fact is that you all can’t get votes on your partisan witchhunt bills, and thst’s for good reason.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:10 pmDo you think that Karl Rove would like to put a wiretap on Patrick Fitzgerald?
What’s to stop him?
What’s to stop Bush from tapping into the DNC? Or any Democrat Congressman? Or any journalist?
Who would know that he was doing it, without a warrant?
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:11 pmNo, it’s because the Republicans are desperate to keep the media from finding out how crooked and out of touch with America they truly are.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:15 pmI may be missing something, but is sounds to me like McCain wants to have ‘hearings’ so that it can be determined that this illegal activity is necessary, and thus there is no problem with it having been done prior to the ‘hearings’.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:15 pm#35 “Actually, No Child Left Behind was a Democrat introduced bill.
The fact is that you all can’t get votes on your partisan witchhunt bills, and thst’s for good reason.”
Comment by Gary Ruppert
Are you nuts? This is Bushes wet dream. The idea might have been the Democrats, but Bush took that and ripped it apart and turned it into something horable. This bill is one of the worst that there is for kids the way it is handled. This was completly bragged that this was his parties bill and that he was going to make sure that it came to fuition.
Gary - you need to tell Donald that you need a replacement or that you need stronger arguing points. Better yet, how about getting some arguing points? So far all you have done is stated things with ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT. You have been asked for supporting data for your claims but so far on a scale of 1 to 10 your at -100.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:17 pmWell according to Jane Harmon, she is more than ready to change the existing law to accomodate the thus far alleged illegal wiretaps. Yeah, she’s the Democrat.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:17 pmKeith - Yeah, I see that too. Since it is illegal, this is the only approach they have. To say that it was necessary. Who cares if it breaks the law or the Constitition.
Let’s not focus on whats right or wrong, let’s focus on whats necessary. This is the direction our county is going/gone. So much for our laws. Good by America, Hello Nazi Germany.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:19 pmthe underfunding of a program that cost money was deliberately intended to bankrupt public education
just as no bid prescription drugs was intended to bankrupt that program
this is one sick puppy turning America back into the days of 1905.
we’re in tons of trouble..especially with people that are defending these policies, voting against their own interest, actually encouraging the administration to give their money, their parents money, and most important, their children’s money to wealthy people
people that will never spend the money, the sole purpose of giving them your money is to widen the gap between haves and have nots
you need to start looking our for your children and stop defending this administrations actions simply because he claims he is a member of your party
first, he is NOT a republcian, his polices fly in the face of convervative politics, and second, start protecting your family and stop making this a “my side your side” thing
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:20 pm#40,
Don’t even try that. Jane Harmon is the one who pointed out that Bush violated a law by not consulting with all members of the appropriate House and Senate committees.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:20 pmtrolls trying to pat themselves on the back….tiny minds in tiny robots to’keep the sheep asleep’. Not working,here, or anywhere else. The pandoras box is open and won’t close till the crooks a gone.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:21 pmJoe Sixpack, I have disagreed with you in the past, but you are making a lot of sense. We CAN disagree,yet make the goverment better. I don’t drink, but Joe, have a beer on me.
Fight the power,
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:27 pmAfter the fact. The soft dems running around writing notes on napkins stating their objection to the spying. BULLSH*T.
They should have blown the whistle IMMEDIATELY. They don’t fight the illegal war. They don’t fight illegal wiretaps. They are complicite.
I see your point. The Democrats need to stop letting themselves get pushed around on issues where the American people would agree with the Democrats if they knew all the facts. It seems like they don’t fully understand how dirty and corrupt the Republicans are or else they would be fighting harder to preserve our democracy.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:34 pmWhat McCain is saying is that the power to wire tap without warrant would have been given to the President if he had only asked.
Say WHAT?
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:40 pmI want to reiterate a point I made in a previous thread that we are not talking about a few targeted wire taps.
We are talking about DATA WAREHOUSING and DATA MINING.
EVERYTHINGS being recorded and stored for future inspection.
That’s what people are missing. We are now, officially, a Police State, courtesy George W Bush and his good pal, Osama Ain’t been laidin a while.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:43 pmWelcome to Orwellville.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:44 pm“the democrats cannot introduce bills”
Of course they can.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:44 pmThe FACT is that Bush had started doing this BEFORE 9/11.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:46 pmOf that I do not doubt Mr Ho. But now we know.
What are we gonna do about it?
To listen to George Will and Cokie Roberts this morning, it appears America’s just gonna role over and say, well, we’d rather be safe
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:49 pmTh FACT is since Bush has done so many signings, many of the bills congress (republican dominated) created were basically reinterpreted by Bush lawyers and to be re-interpreted by ALITO and the supreme court. ALITO is the one that hellp to get the SIGNING thing passed,Under Reagan and Sr, to me, this is a conflict of interests.
Not a lwayer, so I expect to be corrected by those that may be. =)
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:50 pmIf our rights under the Constitution are worthless, if the president has all the power of a king, then we have no freedom and the terrorists have won. The only question remaining is exactly who are the terrorists?
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:56 pmLook, the United States was never meant to be a nation where everyword you say over the phone, every email you write to someone, every websearch you ever made, is stored on massive JukeBoxes and other Optical storage mediums to be mined at a later date for keywords that my get you sent to jail.
Even if nothing you say is ever used against you, do you really want some 26 year old computer geek over at NSA sitting around laughing at you telling your girlfriend how her butts not big?
I don’t know about you but now every word I type, every email I send, everything I say on the phone I now second guess, wondering how it might be used against me somewhere in the future.
This is not America.
As John Stossel would say, Give me a BREAK.
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:58 pmAye, I speak to all I know Worfeus.
The Message is getting out.
The people, even on the Christian stations are waking up to the number three and all inclusive signifcance of it. The Three unfolding stages of matter and time. The three rings.
the +|-
January 22nd, 2006 at 2:59 pmvis a vis
this to that
N to South
the grey between
Left to right
up to down
the point between 360 and 0
The Zero point
Ying and yang
thesis synthesis antisynthesis
The FACT is that Clinton had started doing this BEFORE 9/11.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:00 pmBias shall Imprison us, Tapped phones, Emails, Laws…fear.
3 is key
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:00 pmfact is HE LIED, and he knew HE LIED:
“…Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires — a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we’re talking about chasing down terrorists, we’re talking about getting a court order before we do so. It’s important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.†bush 2004
see/hear it for yourself: http://thinkprogress.org/ 2005/ 12/ 20/ bush-caught-on-tape/ #comments
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:00 pmWORFEUS is a “good pal” of Osama bin Ladin. Watch, WORFEUS will be unable to prove he’s not…
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:01 pm#The FACT is that Clinton had started doing this BEFORE 9/11.
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 3:00 pm
it speaks, but not.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:01 pm#The FACT is that Clinton had started doing this BEFORE 9/11.
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 3:00 pm
it thinks but little and sees much less.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:03 pm“WALLACE: But you do not believe…”
Without probing the disease-ridden recesses of the Mainstream Media Whore, note that phrases such as “But you do not believe…” and “But you believe…” now represent the zenith of American Journalism!
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:08 pmThe FACT is that Clinton had started doing this BEFORE 9/11.
Comment by USA Gary— January 22, 2006 @ 3:00 pm
Lie.
The FISA law originally did not cover physical searches, only wiretaps. The Clinton Administration conducted legal warrantless physical searches until, with the support of the White House, the FISA law was expanded to cover physical searches, too.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:16 pmI was not referring to physical searches, patrick. I didn’t mention physical searches. Thank you for demonstrating your ability to mindlessly regurgitate talking points, regardless of context. LOL
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:20 pmWiretaps, trying to get intenet search records, it all sounds like Bush is looking for his enemies instead of terrorists. Nixon, Now more than ever!
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:22 pmI was not referring to physical searches, patrick. I didn’t mention physical searches. Thank you for demonstrating your ability to mindlessly regurgitate talking points, regardless of context. LOL
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 3:20 pm
Dude, don’t you even know your own talking points? The official right-wing talking point on Clinton is “well, Clinton did warrantless wiretaps, too,” which is false and confuses wiretaps with physical searches, which were legal at the time.
I’m sorry that you fumbled your own talking point, but it’s not my fault. Now hop back over to your right-wing blogs and study up, bub.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:25 pmpatrick, keep digging. LOL
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:26 pmHistory teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.
Justice Thurgood Marshall
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:26 pmPoint to Patrick.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:28 pm“McCain is the latest addition to a growing list of prominent conservatives — including Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA), Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) and Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) — who have expressed serious concerns about the legality of the program.
Karl Rove doesn’t want to spin it this way but concern about the warrantless domestic spying program is bipartisan.”
There’s no such thing as bipartisan when presidential elections are on the horizon. McCain has already shot off several of his own toes bucking the President on important issues. My guess is after the 08 elections the name McCain will never be heard again in any serious political discussion unless it has something to do with fraud.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:28 pmThe fact that Clinton did ’something’ is not relevant as his actions in this case were not illegal. WERE NOT ILLEGAL you dip-stick. The law was not amended to make what he did illegal until AFTERWARDS you moron. The fact you would bring it up shows the rest of us just how damned dumb you realy are. Like so many other republicons, ignorant as shit, and damned proud of it! You repubs are the ones that are in love with OBL, you let him get away didn’t you?
P.S. Seems like when Bush speakes, if you interpret his statements to mean exactly the oposite of what he says, the message comes thru load and clear….
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:29 pmMy guess is after the 08 elections the name McCain will never be heard again in any serious political discussion unless it has something to do with fraud.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — January 22, 2006 @ 3:28 pm
Your guess and a quarter would’nt make a phone call.
Mr. McCain is going to be a key political player for as long as he is breathing, of that, I would bet the farm.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:33 pmI guess whatever winger think-tank funds these guys cut its pay rates for trolls - it’s bottom-of-the-barrel time. They haven’t even studied their own talking points. Sad.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:35 pmMcCain has already shot off several of his own toes bucking the President on important issues
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — January 22, 2006 @ 3:28 pm
Really, really poor analogy. To compare a man who not only served with valor, but ended up spending 8 years in the Hanoi Hilton, and even then refused to leave when his opportunity came so that others could leave, to man, (and I use that term loosely) who was too afraid to even get near Viet Nam, is hubris.
Then again, Hubris is your middle name, isn’t it?
I-HUBRIS-I?
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:35 pmha ha - that’s a good one, worfeus…
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:42 pm“hubris-between-the-i’s” - yea, that works!
Really, really poor analogy.
Comment by WORFEUS —
I don’t take anything away from the man’s service to our country when I criticize the moves he’s made or in my opinion disallow his qualifications for the office. In the same way your allusion to Bush’s so-called shirking of duty is not relevant to today.
What a man may or may not have done thirty years ago is not a good reason to stand behind him today. John Murtha is a perfect case in point.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:43 pmReally, really poor analogy.
Comment by WORFEUS —
I don’t take anything away from the man’s service to our country when I criticize the moves he’s made or in my opinion disallow his qualifications for the office. In the same way your allusion to Bush’s so-called shirking of duty is not relevant to today.
What a man may or may not have done thirty years ago is not a good reason to stand behind him today. John Murtha is a perfect case in point.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:43 pmThe right has no respect for a mans military service. This is clear.
It’s all pomp and hype to recruit them, but once they’ve served, and particularly if they end up being incapacitated through battle wounds, then they are chaff to be discarded into the wind.
Jack Murtha, bloodied thrice for his country, dedicated 4 decades to his nation, and the scum call him a coward.
John McCain, decorated, a POW, a hero who let his men go first after years of torture in a Vietnamese POW camp, when he does not agree with the right, is a coward and a traitor.
Paul Hackett, Scott Ritter, John Kerry, Max Clelland, on and on and on.
It turns my stomach to think of the cowards on the right who never served condemning these mens service to their countries.
It makes me sick.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:47 pmI-CHICKENHAWK-I,
better run, I think I hear Osama commin,
RUN!
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:48 pmWhen you open your mouth to disgrace these great men, you only disgrace yourself I-DIDNTSERVE-I.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:50 pmSo now patrick is criticizing conservatives for not sticking to talking points. Classic! LOL
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:52 pmBut thus is the rhetoric of the behind the scenes cowards.
Send other peoples kids off to fight wars, then sit around with their fat, lazy security mom wifes talking about how brave they are, and how cowardly the liberals are for not supporting the war.
I imagine one must summon great courage to awake everyday in their lime green doublewide, resuse a 3 week old coffee filter, cash in their foodstamps for 10 cents on the dollar to by a bottle of JD, and sit at their 3 legged kitchen table using their new computer from rent-a-center to tell the world how brave it is to support a war that you don’t have to fight in.
You’re heroes to us all.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:54 pmWOR-chickenhawk-FEUS left Tim McVeigh, who served in Desert Storm, off his list of veterans who cannot be criticized in any way. LOL
The standard that WOR-chickenhawk-FEUS is espousing here - that veterans cannot be criticized or debated in any way - is simply un-American.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:55 pmWORFEUS, did you support the war in Afghanistann?
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:57 pmNever said that.
I just said it’s hubris for little pusses like you to critcize them.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:57 pmOh and BTW Nimrod,
To be a Chickenhawk, one has to actually support a war they are unwilling to fight in.
That’s a club reserved for you and your clan.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:58 pm“I just said it’s hubris for little pusses like you to critcize them.”
Of course. Typically, it was just empty ad hominem.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:58 pmI-HUBRIS-I?
Comment by WORFEUS
Hey Worf….you’ve got a pretty smart mouth when I’m otherwise occupied. Where are you now? I haven’t got all day.
January 22nd, 2006 at 3:58 pmLOL,
I-RUNAWAYEVERYTIMEISEEWORFEUS-I,
what happened to you last night?
Puss.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:00 pmWOR-chickenhawk-FEUS, did you support the war in Afghanistan?
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:01 pmAnd BTW I-CANTREAD-I, 79, 80, 81, 83, are all directed to you, and awaiting your witty retort,
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:01 pmWhen you open your mouth to disgrace these great men, you only disgrace yourself I-DIDNTSERVE-I.
Comment by WORF
If that’s your argument you’re an idiot. Hitler served in WWI and John Kerry served in Vietnam and neither one of those guys came out the wiser for it. So, what’s your point, only men who served in wartime are qualified to speak of politics and war?
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:02 pmWOR-chickenhawk-FEUS, did you support the war in Afghanistan?
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 4:01 pm
Yes, and I was willing to fight in it to.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:02 pm“Yes, and I was willing to fight in it to.”
So you fought in it?
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:02 pmHitler served in a non combat role I-NIMROD-I.
Read a book.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:02 pmWOR-chickenhawk-FEUS, did you support the war in Afghanistan?
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 4:01 pm
Yes, and I was willing to fight in it to.
Comment by WORFEUS
So in other words you’re not smart enough to see that the war in Iraq is against the same enemy we fought in Afghanistan and part of the war we’ve been fighting against Islamic foes since Mohammed screwed his first 9 year old?
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:04 pm“…served in a non combat role…”
So anyone who served in the military in a non-combat role is also prohibited from expressing an opinion now? Wow, left-wing intolerance of dissent keeps raising the bar.
And always remember, these are the same folks who just a few years ago called people who served in Vietnam “baby killers.”
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:05 pmSo in other words you’re not smart enough to see that the war in Iraq is against the same enemy we fought in Afghanistan
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — January 22, 2006 @ 4:04 pm
Yea, guess I’m not that smart.
You must be a genius.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:06 pmNever said that Patriot.
You seem to be expressing your opinion fine.
I just said your were a PUSS for doing it.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:07 pmWhen you open your mouth to disgrace these great men, you only disgrace yourself I-DIDNTSERVE-I.
Comment by WORF
I don’t have the power to disgrace anyone.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:08 pmWhen McCain stood on the tarmac and said he was’nt going until his men were all free, after 7 years of torture, beatings, starvation, isolation, brainwashing, humiliation, etc, he passed over into a realm you and the critter you call USA PATRIOT, well never enter into.
He is above us all for that one, selfless act. He is not free from judgement, but calling him a coward, traitor, chicken, etc, is what ensures that you, and the minions who follow you, will forever be in the septicpit you now occupy.
You’re not the devil. You’re just the guys who run into the liquour store the buy the devil a pack of smokes.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:11 pmbut calling him a coward, traitor, chicken, etc,
Comment by WORFEUS
Putting words in my mouth to defame my person and destroy my honor makes you the same as a murderer. That’s what the Bible says. Just thought you’d like to know that before I go.
Later.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:17 pmWOR-chickenhawk-FEUS, so you fought in Afghanistan?
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:19 pmYea, guess I’m not that smart.
Comment by WORFEUS
Then start here. You have miles to go before you sleep.
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/ usawc/ Parameters/ 02autumn/ peters.htm
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:23 pmWhere did I-SUBTLESMEAR-I disparage Senator John McCain?
McCain has already shot off several of his own toes bucking the President on important issues
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — January 22, 2006 @ 3:28 pm
The concept of soldiers shooting themselves in the foot during VietNam, was commonly spoken of during the 70’s.
In fact, it was a household term. I don’t know if it originated in Nam, doubt it, probably goes back to the revolution, but that aside, it was commonly associated with cowardice, and running from the fight.
A disgraceful way to avoid combat service.
Using such an analogy, to subtly seed the thought that McCain is a coward, while perhaps lost on some less persnickety than I, is as obvious as the crew cut on your thick flat topped melon.
You may think you’re slick, slick, but you’re not.
Thats just the residual slime creating that appearence.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:24 pm#13, Joe6pack says “Frankly, I think they are really more concerned on keeping tabs who is opposing them politically, who Cindy Sheehan talks with, or which Democrats can be caught in a scandal they can use in 2006/2008.”
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:27 pmI think he is right.
Recall that A. Gonzalez told two differing stories about why they did not go to Congress for power. First he said he didn’t think they could get it - then he said they had it implicitly since 10/2001. If they believed they had the power since Oct. 2001, why would they later consult Congress? Now we learn that they have been spying on Americans since February 2001, fully 6 months before the so called authority. This is a White House out of control - they think we are subject to them, but they are our public servants.
Oh and as for your lazy link?
Throwing out a link without a detailed argument and supporting theory is like a baby laying on its back, spreading it’s legs and saying “here change me, I crapped myself”.
If you’ve got something intillegent to say, say it. But don’t bother wasting space lazily throwing out a link to somebody elses ideas, you lazy troll you.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:29 pmI-LAZY-I
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:31 pmLAZY-I, wasn’t that a ranch in a John Wayne western?
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:32 pmWOR-chickenhawk-FEUS, so you fought in Afghanistan?
The term “baby killer” was commonly spoken during the 70’s, by liberal Democrats.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:33 pmNo, I did not fight in Afghanisthan.
Never said I did. But I would have been willing to.
I was too old to enlist in Deseret Storm, though I did fill out the paperwork.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:36 pmAnd I am familiar with the term baby killer.
So?
What is it’s relevence to our discussion?
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:36 pmI see the eunuchs are squating in their basements with a laptop today.
USA eunuch, the only thing you have fought in your life is your cowardice.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:40 pmThis is from the new Newsweek:
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:40 pmThe Pentagon has its own domestic spying program. Even its leaders say the outfit may have gone too far.
In fact, I think the Marine recruiting officer is still laughing.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:43 pmRead that Marie
We all know that domestic spying is going to be endemic throughout all departments of the executive branch, just like torture. Interested in finding out how Bolton used the DOJ intel.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:44 pmYes Citizen80203
WORFEUS has been here swatting the flies by himself. They’re everywhere.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:45 pmIf Sen. McCain truely wants the support of the American voters in 2008, then he needs to call President George W. Bush a liar, thug and vicious bastard! He needs to demand that a Special Counsel is appointed to investigate the NSA Spygate Scandal, and he needs to demand that Dubya resigns or is impeached for breaking the FISA laws!
McCain has to decide whether to kiss Bush’s butt or to kick Bush’s ass? If he decides to cover for Dubya, then he must forget about running for president in 2008!
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:47 pmHow GUTSY for McCain to go to the edge of the precipice but stay so firmly belted into his PART LORALS.
DUH, McCain. We all have figured out what you said. But can you say the “I” word?
Its one thing to say your fearless commander and chief broke the law. Its another to say that he needs to be held accountable for his misdeads.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:48 pmGood job Worfeus
Did you know that everytime a eunuch fly lands it pukes, sh*ts, and lays eggs.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:49 pmJay - Resignation is not good enough. This Administration needs to be Impeached and then Imprissoned.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:52 pm#119 ~ Comment by Jay Randal — January 22, 2006 @ 4:47 pm
Just an FYI
John Conyers has started the ball rolling. We need to petition our news media to do their job and cover relevent events.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:53 pmWORFEUS, “But I would have been willing to.”
Talk is cheap, you chickenhawk hypocrite.
The relevance of the term “baby killer” is that it is the same people who once used that term to describe people like Kerry and Murtha who now hold up people like Kerry and Murtha as above criticism. It’s just blatant hypocrisy.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:56 pmBut President Bush hasn’t engaged in any wrongdoing, let alone any impeachable offense.
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:58 pmVIDEO of Committy Hearings on Domesic Spy Programs
January 22nd, 2006 at 4:59 pmUSA Eunuch
What decade are you squatting in?
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:00 pmTalk is cheap, you chickenhawk hypocrite
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 4:56 pm
Yea, you can say that again brother.
You can say that again.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:02 pmOh and BTW, in 1991 I did more than talk. I drove down to the recruiting center and filled out the paperwork to join up.
I cannot help it they did not accept me.
All a man can do is toss his hat into the ring.
It’s not his fault if the ring tosses it back.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:05 pmOh and how many times have you tried to enlist? Have you even bothered to learn your eligability to serve?
Or is this all you do?
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:06 pmPost 125 USA Patriot > Bush is guilty as sin of breaking the law, so wake up and smell the sewer!
Post 122 RemoveBush > After Bush resigns, then demand his imprisonment > I agree with you!
Post 123 Max-1 > Bravo for Rep. Conyers > at least he has guts!
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:07 pmI’m am curious now I-MIGHTSERVE-I,
Are you within an age group that you could enlist now?
Are there any restrictions that keep you from serving?
There must be right, because, I mean you would not be in here if there was’nt, right?
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:10 pmUSA Patriot - You want to talk about hypocrisy. Here you go.
Daily Kos: GOP’s New Anti-Clinton FauxGate: “Plantation” Sensation!
Republicans have referred to an imaginary “liberal plantation” for over a decade
now. … (Just Google GEORGE WILL LIBERAL PLANTATION — or click here.) …
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/17/143951/052 - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
Project for the OLD American Century-liberal news from unbiased …
at one time “liberal plantation” and “democrat plantation” were republican talking
points 1-19 · Dick Cheney has to wear shoes that don’t match because of …
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Vision Circle
His goal is not to take charge of the liberal plantation run by the Democrats,
but to free blacks from it. http://66.201.46.115/news/article.asp? …
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Cynicus Prime: liberal plantation carries on
In case anyone doubts the existence of the Liberal Plantation, witness:. Editorial:
A nomination that will divide … In losing a woman, the court with …
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Conservative Truth - The Democratic Plantation - Tom Barrett …
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:10 pmThe Democratic Plantation. January 31, 2005. By Tom Barrett. The Democrat Party
touts itself as the party of inclusion. Yet it practices the worst kind of …
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Worfeus
You need not expain yourself to USA eununch. Just because I fought in GW1, does not mean I was not a “Hippy” that killed babies in 1969 while protesting fetus rights.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:10 pmRemoveBush, lots of people have for decades used the word “plantation” in various contexts. That’s a given. Do you have a point?
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:13 pmWell that’s easy Citizen.
I was alive then. In fact, I was close to enlistment age.
I never called anyone a baby killer. No one in my family ever called anyone a baby killer.
No one I ever knew back then ever called anyone a baby killer.
But I was a hippie, and so were most of the people I knew.
And we all support Murtha now.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:13 pmDo you have a point?
Exacly eunuch.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:14 pmJay, if you already know Bush is guilty, then why do you want an investigation? In the Jim Crow era, Democrats used to do the hanging before the trial, but I guess it’s still your practice? LOL
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:15 pmOnly a fringe group called them babykillers, and if they had only directed their comments to the President and his staff and not towards the troops,their comments would be valid, however distasteful.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:16 pm“if you already know Bush is guilty, then why do you want an investigation?”
“if you know he got a blow job, then why do you want an investigation?”
What a squatting eunuch!
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:18 pmOnly a fringe: “…reminiscent of Ghengis Khan…”
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:18 pmI-RUN-I asked me a lot of questions today, some of them personal.
I answered them immediately honestly and even a with a little personal detail.
Yet after answering his questions, the 3 questions I asked him have gone unanswered.
Go figure.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:20 pmI will ask them again.
Perhaps he did not see them.
I-RUNFAST-I,
I’m am curious.
Are you within an age group that you could enlist now?
Are there any restrictions that keep you from serving?
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:21 pmPost 138 > lol > Republicans considered President Clinton guilty before any impeachment hearings!
I believe that Bush should be given a fair trial, but not hanged > I am against the death penalty unless someone rapes and murders children!
If lying about a BJ warrants impeachment, then lying about WMD in Iraq and authorizing illegal wiretaps demands impeachment!
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:21 pmSame questions to you USA.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:21 pmUSA CHICKENHAWK
Are you within an age group that you could enlist now?
Are there any restrictions that keep you from serving?
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:22 pmAside from being a moron that is.
Don’t worry about that though cause they straigtened Gump out.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:23 pmLying and obstruction in the context of a sexual harassment civil lawsuit merited impeachment.
President Bush did not lie about WMD or authorize illegal wiretaps.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:24 pmWorfeus
If you ask a eunuch a question they need to squat on it for at least forty eight hours before the can begin to formulate an answer. Otherwise, they become incoherent like USA eunuch.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:24 pmNope.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:25 pmoh, well then let me ask it again. Maybe it will help.
USA CHICKENHAWK
I-RUNAWAY-I
Are you within an age group that you could enlist now?
Are there any restrictions that keep you from serving?
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:25 pmheh,
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:25 pmhttp://www.bradenton.com/ mld/ bradenton/ news/ politics/ 13675006.htm
Of course, I might be a 4 star general, as far as you know. LOL
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:26 pmSo you have been a squatting coward your whole life then, nice.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:27 pmGump made it, WOR-chickenhawk-FEUS couldn’t. Enough said. LOL
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:27 pmNope.
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 5:25 pm
I commend you for you honesty, albeit somewhat coerced.
Now go sign up and shoot us all an email from the front.
We will look at you through wide new eyes.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:27 pmMcCain’s on Board…
He made the rounds of the Sunday talk shows today, telling everybody that he’s decided the President acted illegally in getting NSA to do those domestic wiretaps without warrants….
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:27 pmPost 148 > Bush did LIE about WMD in Iraq and he willfully bypassed the FISA Court to wiretap & snoop!
Bush has lied to Congress and that is grounds for his impeachment and removal from the presidency!
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:27 pmOf course, I might be a 4 star general, as far as you know. LOL
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 5:26 pm
In Bush’s Army, you probably are…
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:28 pmAfter I said I’m NOT in an age group that could enlist, WORFEUS says, “Now go sign up and shoot us all an email from the front.”
Wow, sheer genius! No wonder the marines took Gump instead of you. LOL
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:28 pmJay, this is not true: “Bush did LIE about WMD in Iraq and he willfully bypassed the FISA Court to wiretap & snoop!”
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:29 pmLike I said; So you have been a squatting coward your whole life then, nice.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:29 pmWallace,
Do you have all of your teeth?
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:31 pmActually USA PATRONIZER
My LAST question was are there any restrictions keeping you from serving.
So I assumed when you chose to offer a 1 line answer to a two part question, you were considering my final question as the summary question and answering accordingly.
Sorry to have mistaken you for someone with a logical mind.
I will proceed accordingly.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:31 pmHow GUTSY for McCain to go to the edge of the precipice but stay so firmly belted into his PART LORALS.
DUH, McCain. We all have figured out what you said. But can you say the “I†word?
Its one thing to say your fearless commander and chief broke the law. Its another to say that he needs to be held accountable for his misdeads.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:32 pmPost 161 > it is true > Bush bypassed the FISA court to snoop without warrants and he lied about WMD in Iraq too!
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:33 pmWOR-chickenhawk-FEUS, “So I assumed when you chose to offer a 1 line answer to a two part question”
Since I pasted the question I was answering, you are in effect admitting here that you’re either an illiterate or an imbecile. Maybe both. ROFL
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:33 pmMcCain’s on Board…
Uh oh….
Patriot, I-wrong-I,
RUN!
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:34 pmJay, this is still not true: “Bush bypassed the FISA court to snoop without warrants and he lied about WMD in Iraq too!”
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:34 pmNot a USA Patriot - Show me the proof that Bush did not lie about WMD’s and has not performed Illegal wire tapping. The CIA told the Administration that the intelligence did not support their claim that Iraq had WMD’s. This was all over the news, were you sleeping for a year?
Now I have asked and I have provided my proof that Bush DID WIRETAP ILLEGALLY, where is your proof?
Show us something besides your lips moving, like a normal Republican. Give us evidence. In case you don’t know what that big word means. It means:
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:34 pm# attest: provide evidence for; stand as proof of; show by one’s behavior, attitude, or external attributes; “His high fever attested to his illness”; “The buildings in Rome manifest a high level of architectural sophistication”; “This decision demonstrates his sense of fairness”
# your basis for belief or disbelief; knowledge on which to base belief; “the evidence that smoking causes lung cancer is very compelling”
# an indication that makes something evident; “his trembling was evidence of his fear”
# testify: provide evidence for; “The blood test showed that he was the father”; “Her behavior testified to her incompetence”
# tell: give evidence; “he was telling on all his former colleague”
# (law) all the means by which any alleged matter of fact whose truth is investigated at judicial trial is established or disproved
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Wallace,
Answer my question now… Do you have all of your teeth?
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:35 pmSince I pasted the question I was answering, you are in effect admitting here that you’re either an illiterate or an imbecile. Maybe both. ROFL
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 5:33 pm
Ahh finally.
Point to Patriot. I overlooked your repost.
Well done son.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:36 pmWhat a waste of technology on this particular subject.
I heard something today on CNN In The Money that made me want to puke.
Congress and senators are paid $165,200 per year. When they retire or get chased out of office, no matter how long the term, they get $82,600 a year in retirement. For life.
Not only that, but they are elgible for social security for work they did before and after their tenure.
Not only that they are in a Thrift Program, set up by the federal government. They give 15% of their salary, the government donates them an additional 5% for a total of 20%. This amounts to an additional $33,400 per year in retirement. They pay no taxes on any of this shit.
This is the same people sitting up there in Washington who wont approve a raise in the minimum wage. Why should they. They got you at the bottom of the heap where they want you.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:36 pm“The CIA told the Administration that the intelligence did not support their claim that Iraq had WMD’s.”
No, the DCI told the president it was “a slam dunk” that Iraq had WMD. It was all over the news.
“I have provided my proof that Bush DID WIRETAP ILLEGALLY”
No, you did not.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:37 pmPost 169 > sorry but it is true! Bush bypassed the FISA Court to snoop without warrants and admits doing so! That is grounds for his impeachment, since breaking federal law rises to a “high crime”!
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:37 pmSo you are too old to enlist, right, that is what you are saying.
Ok, fair enough. How old were you in 1991?
Did you try to enlist then?
This is an honor system thing, so you can lie, tell the truth, or just call me a liar. Balls in your court.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:38 pmJay, repeating your talking point won’t make it true.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:38 pmHere’s a fun-filled scenario:
Al Gore successfully contests the results of the Florida election and is inaugurated in Jan. 2001. Having just come from the popular Clinton administration (and having been deemed the most hands-on VP in history) he is completely up to speed on the criminal activity of Osama bin Laden and plans to continue monitoring the Iraq no-fly zone. Gore plans to “break the ice” with prominent Egyptioan physician, Dr. Ayman AlZawahiri, by suggesting that many Muslims might lower their hostility level by singing union tunes followed by ardent wife smooching.
Gore is in close administrative contact with all EU members (The close relationship President Gore has with Prime Minister Chirac has not suffered any from Tipper Gore’s environmental protests of French hygiene practices. Gore,a uber-man who sensitively takes feminist fashion suggestions, does compassionately express his disdain for foie gras, earning another “Dog and Pony Show Award” from PETA.)
During the summer of 2001, micro-manager extraordinairre President Al Gore, personally notices the high level of interest of 20 young Muslim men at various flight schools around the nation. Brilliant leader that he is, he wonders why these students have all played hookie for the landing portion of the class. Sensitive to the cultures of others, Gore consults with a member of the Nation of Islam to determine how NOT to offend any of these dedicated students.
9/11/01 - Al Gore, busy teaching “union label” songs to young children (reminiscent of Gore’s fabled childhood), is stunned to receive news of the terrorist attacks on the WTC from his chief of staff, Naomi Wolf. Wanting to show his sensitivity and grief, Gore drops the song sheet and runs crying and screaming from the room. Downing a “might-sized” Midol and gaining his composure, Gore consoles the nation. Gore vows to “track down” (”hunt down” seems a bit aggressive to Gore and Wolf)the poor, misunderstood, Muslim co-conspirators and find out how we can all just get along. Vice President Lieberman resigns when Gore announces to the nation that no armed retaliation will take place for the 9/11 attacks.
Gore announces to the nation that NO monitoring of incoming telephone call from possible terrorists to people in the US will take place. After consulting with Dr. Phil and Oprah, President Gore is convinced that with enough “talk therapy” (which could be the motivation for those phone calls) Muslim extremists will adopt a less rigid stance toward Western mores.
Gore mandates, with the approval of the Democratically controlled House and Senate, that those who turn themselves in will be provided with religiously sensitve meals, and will “endure” the President’s long-winded, but informative speeches 24/7. No one will be forced to wear women’s panties on their head and the re-education classes will conclude in 90 days. Peace Secretary Dennis Kucinich announces the Presidents fervent wish that those who hate “decadent Western values” will understand as the US tries to make peace with EVERYONE.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:39 pmNo, you did not.
Comment by USA Patriot — January 22, 2006 @ 5:37 pm
Uhh, you’ll have to do better than the troll response of no you did not.
That’s ann coulter tactics, and unbecoming for a troll of your stature.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:39 pmUSA eunuch
You are a small boy of 14-17 aren’t you? No wonder, look kid get back to your homework and leave the discussion for the adults.
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:40 pmWORFEUS, you’ll have to do better than “you’ll have to do better.” LOL
January 22nd, 2006 at 5:41 pmPost 177 > lol > your defending Bush forever does NOT make him innocent of bypassing the FISA Court! Bush chose