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		<title>By: jo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/24/presidential-credibility/comment-page-3/#comment-433154</link>
		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 07:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, hes kidding :&#124;
while 32% think that george bush will be able to accomplish what he said he would, while 68% said hes would BLOW IT!! good america, turns out your not idiots :)
What i do not get is that 52% said that they supported the war in the middle east and thought it would do us good, haha. not funny america. How on earth can any war be good? Whats wrong with you?!? Thousands of innocent lives are taken because George Bush feels like he has to control the Middle East. Why doesn&#039;t he butt out ?? I feel like other countries have the right not to be influenced by america. Now you have to understand that the media is not right and the government does not tell us much, and so i dont really trust what the television, radio, or newpaper tells me. Many of the suicide bombings in the middle east were not suicidal, but cause by the americans. You may say i&#039;m a liar and i don&#039;t have a clue what i am talking about. You may say the People in the middle east are pyschotic, and that might be true. But who wouldn&#039;t be after having the most powerful nation in the world controling your country and making false accuses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, hes kidding :|<br />
while 32% think that george bush will be able to accomplish what he said he would, while 68% said hes would BLOW IT!! good america, turns out your not idiots :)<br />
What i do not get is that 52% said that they supported the war in the middle east and thought it would do us good, haha. not funny america. How on earth can any war be good? Whats wrong with you?!? Thousands of innocent lives are taken because George Bush feels like he has to control the Middle East. Why doesn&#8217;t he butt out ?? I feel like other countries have the right not to be influenced by america. Now you have to understand that the media is not right and the government does not tell us much, and so i dont really trust what the television, radio, or newpaper tells me. Many of the suicide bombings in the middle east were not suicidal, but cause by the americans. You may say i&#8217;m a liar and i don&#8217;t have a clue what i am talking about. You may say the People in the middle east are pyschotic, and that might be true. But who wouldn&#8217;t be after having the most powerful nation in the world controling your country and making false accuses?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=433154', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Angry Citizen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/24/presidential-credibility/comment-page-3/#comment-429436</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ordinarily, I would boycott any Bush SOTU as I boycott all his speeches, for fear of raising my blood pressure to apoplectic levels.  This year, I&#039;ll be watching (and commiserating, I suppose) with others.

People who are as angry and fed up with the Republican culture of corruption-and-denial can do something: attend a Watch Party in your area, take notes, and hold the administration&#039;s feet to the fire --- let everyone know when their deeds don&#039;t match their pretty, lying words.  Go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democrats.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; and click on the &quot;Watch Party&quot; link on the right.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ordinarily, I would boycott any Bush SOTU as I boycott all his speeches, for fear of raising my blood pressure to apoplectic levels.  This year, I&#8217;ll be watching (and commiserating, I suppose) with others.</p>
<p>People who are as angry and fed up with the Republican culture of corruption-and-denial can do something: attend a Watch Party in your area, take notes, and hold the administration&#8217;s feet to the fire &#8212; let everyone know when their deeds don&#8217;t match their pretty, lying words.  Go to <a href="http://www.democrats.org" rel="nofollow"> and click on the &#8220;Watch Party&#8221; link on the right.</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=429436', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: N. O'Body</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/24/presidential-credibility/comment-page-3/#comment-425048</link>
		<dc:creator>N. O'Body</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush: &quot;I, Claudius&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush: &#8220;I, Claudius&#8221;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=425048', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: isness</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/24/presidential-credibility/comment-page-3/#comment-424107</link>
		<dc:creator>isness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx for the welcome, unbÃ©.

I&#039;m new-old.

I&#039;ve likely lurked here a bit, but I can&#039;t be certain, having &lt;em&gt;finally&lt;/em&gt; gotten my short-term memory to malfunction to the point of losing some of the long-term... (^_^)`

If I&#039;ve made comment, though, it was likely with a different handle - this one&#039;s a one-off.

I&#039;m just spreadin&#039; some of &lt;em&gt;&quot;teh (idiot) f00l, Naz-rude&#039;n&#039;s wisdumbÂ®.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; (aka: sh&#039;t.disturbin&#039; &#039;(-_^))

--btw: sry for the &quot;sales pitches&quot; on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Emoto&lt;/a&gt; site I linked. (I googled, chose and posted, and didn&#039;t actually read it &#039;til post post.

re: home:
Yeah. If you drink from the tap, SF&#039;s water will get&#039;cha. It calls you back, even if you&#039;re sick of the folks &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;AND&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; the Price-of-Living...

&amp; yes, even in SF I&#039;m considered a freak.

I&#039;m just a stupid genuis; I&#039;m unique, just like everyone else.

(my answer: No. The glass isn&#039;t half-full or half-empty. It&#039;s half-full &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; half-empty.)

&lt;strong&gt;(OT)&lt;/strong&gt; 101st post in thread!!1!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx for the welcome, unbÃ©.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m new-old.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve likely lurked here a bit, but I can&#8217;t be certain, having <em>finally</em> gotten my short-term memory to malfunction to the point of losing some of the long-term&#8230; (^_^)`</p>
<p>If I&#8217;ve made comment, though, it was likely with a different handle &#8211; this one&#8217;s a one-off.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just spreadin&#8217; some of <em>&#8220;teh (idiot) f00l, Naz-rude&#8217;n&#8217;s wisdumbÂ®.&#8221;</em> (aka: sh&#8217;t.disturbin&#8217; &#8216;(-_^))</p>
<p>&#8211;btw: sry for the &#8220;sales pitches&#8221; on the <a href="http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm" rel="nofollow">Emoto</a> site I linked. (I googled, chose and posted, and didn&#8217;t actually read it &#8217;til post post.</p>
<p>re: home:<br />
Yeah. If you drink from the tap, SF&#8217;s water will get&#8217;cha. It calls you back, even if you&#8217;re sick of the folks <strong><em>AND</em></strong> the Price-of-Living&#8230;</p>
<p>&amp; yes, even in SF I&#8217;m considered a freak.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just a stupid genuis; I&#8217;m unique, just like everyone else.</p>
<p>(my answer: No. The glass isn&#8217;t half-full or half-empty. It&#8217;s half-full <em>and</em> half-empty.)</p>
<p><strong>(OT)</strong> 101st post in thread!!1!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=424107', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isness,

No problem to being off-topic when they get this far back.  I mean, we are social animals, after all...  As much as most want to regulate, deny, punish and tax that...  I personally think we would be better off if we could accept human behavior to begin with.

Awesome - thanks for the link!  I&#039;ll remind Gordo to come back here and check it out.  He should really like it, I think.

I agree with you about the infinity of knowledge...  and the ability to drive yourself insane in pursuit of it.  I think most of us occasionally near that brink.  It&#039;s what motivates us (intelligent progressives)...  &quot;to understand&quot;.  Something evolution gave us (awareness) out of context (establishing further proof to me that there is no intelligent design).  As someone here said recently - evolution will try anything once.  At some point though, we all have to make certain assumptions based on the information available and live with it.  Otherwise, you probably wind up like Nietzsche...

Just something about San Francisco...  besides the beauty and the weather...  Personally, I had and have a love-hate relationship with it.  Hard to explain.

Haven&#039;t seen you before - so welcome (if you&#039;re new)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isness,</p>
<p>No problem to being off-topic when they get this far back.  I mean, we are social animals, after all&#8230;  As much as most want to regulate, deny, punish and tax that&#8230;  I personally think we would be better off if we could accept human behavior to begin with.</p>
<p>Awesome &#8211; thanks for the link!  I&#8217;ll remind Gordo to come back here and check it out.  He should really like it, I think.</p>
<p>I agree with you about the infinity of knowledge&#8230;  and the ability to drive yourself insane in pursuit of it.  I think most of us occasionally near that brink.  It&#8217;s what motivates us (intelligent progressives)&#8230;  &#8220;to understand&#8221;.  Something evolution gave us (awareness) out of context (establishing further proof to me that there is no intelligent design).  As someone here said recently &#8211; evolution will try anything once.  At some point though, we all have to make certain assumptions based on the information available and live with it.  Otherwise, you probably wind up like Nietzsche&#8230;</p>
<p>Just something about San Francisco&#8230;  besides the beauty and the weather&#8230;  Personally, I had and have a love-hate relationship with it.  Hard to explain.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t seen you before &#8211; so welcome (if you&#8217;re new)!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=422911', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: isness</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/24/presidential-credibility/comment-page-2/#comment-422692</link>
		<dc:creator>isness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...on the energy of water and its reactions to human emotion. I forget the author...
-unbelievable &lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Masaru Emoto&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;sorry to reply off topic... twice - it&#039;s just so much more fun than the &#039;Elephants in the Livingroom&#039;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;on the energy of water and its reactions to human emotion. I forget the author&#8230;<br />
-unbelievable </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm" rel="nofollow">Masaru Emoto</a></p>
<p><em>sorry to reply off topic&#8230; twice &#8211; it&#8217;s just so much more fun than the &#8216;Elephants in the Livingroom&#8217;</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=422692', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: isness</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/24/presidential-credibility/comment-page-2/#comment-422668</link>
		<dc:creator>isness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But, I do believe that there is a logical, scientific explanation for everything - even if we havenâ€™t defined it yet.
    -unbelievable&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is true.

The proofs contain numbers like phi, pi, i and e, and seem to prove the universe is vibrating harmonics of self-similarity, strange attractors, light, and consciousness...

Science, especially Physics, has given us a rational, logical explanation: It&#039;s an irrational, illogical universe.  ^_^

...and we&#039;re all of us part of the isness.

Science isn&#039;t even a thing: it&#039;s a method of inquiry, and not only has it postulated that we can never really know everything, but has found the proof.

It&#039;s almost enough to drive one outsane.

(idea - if we could get large groups of people to go to these liars&#039; speeches and SOTU addresses and just laugh hysterically at all of the bu-sh- coming out of their faces, we would win. I mean - we can&#039;t out &lt;em&gt;nasty&lt;/em&gt; the lizard-men in DC, but they really do fear the mocking laughter of their irrelevance...)


&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m in San Francisco right now.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But, I do believe that there is a logical, scientific explanation for everything &#8211; even if we havenâ€™t defined it yet.<br />
    -unbelievable</p></blockquote>
<p>This is true.</p>
<p>The proofs contain numbers like phi, pi, i and e, and seem to prove the universe is vibrating harmonics of self-similarity, strange attractors, light, and consciousness&#8230;</p>
<p>Science, especially Physics, has given us a rational, logical explanation: It&#8217;s an irrational, illogical universe.  ^_^</p>
<p>&#8230;and we&#8217;re all of us part of the isness.</p>
<p>Science isn&#8217;t even a thing: it&#8217;s a method of inquiry, and not only has it postulated that we can never really know everything, but has found the proof.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost enough to drive one outsane.</p>
<p>(idea &#8211; if we could get large groups of people to go to these liars&#8217; speeches and SOTU addresses and just laugh hysterically at all of the bu-sh- coming out of their faces, we would win. I mean &#8211; we can&#8217;t out <em>nasty</em> the lizard-men in DC, but they really do fear the mocking laughter of their irrelevance&#8230;)</p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m in San Francisco right now.</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=422668', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: FallenSoul</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/24/presidential-credibility/comment-page-2/#comment-422275</link>
		<dc:creator>FallenSoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blows my mind... Then again George Orwell, the profit, was dead right...

The official reports by NIST, FEMA and the 9-11 Commission strikingly omit mention of large quantities of molten metal observed in the basement areas of WTC 7 and the Towers.  The fact that the official reports do not adequately address the issue of molten metal found at the sites provides compelling motivation for continued research on the WTC collapses.  Thermite!!!!

Controlled demolition:
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

1. Filibuster Alito 
2. Stage a walk out during the State of the Union
3. Impeach and inprison baby Bush

Controlled demolition of our country brought to by King George, playing the role of religious cult leader, defender of millionairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blows my mind&#8230; Then again George Orwell, the profit, was dead right&#8230;</p>
<p>The official reports by NIST, FEMA and the 9-11 Commission strikingly omit mention of large quantities of molten metal observed in the basement areas of WTC 7 and the Towers.  The fact that the official reports do not adequately address the issue of molten metal found at the sites provides compelling motivation for continued research on the WTC collapses.  Thermite!!!!</p>
<p>Controlled demolition:<br />
<a href="http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html</a></p>
<p>1. Filibuster Alito<br />
2. Stage a walk out during the State of the Union<br />
3. Impeach and inprison baby Bush</p>
<p>Controlled demolition of our country brought to by King George, playing the role of religious cult leader, defender of millionairs.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=422275', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Guenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush has outperformed Stalin and is now in second place after Adolf Hitler. 
Americans: Why do you like the genocidal acts of your troops in Iraq and Afghanistan! Is it, because if your nation does it?
We have no clues about this anymoore. The true Nazi state is United States. USA -SA-SS. That is what we shouted in 70 during the Vietnam war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush has outperformed Stalin and is now in second place after Adolf Hitler.<br />
Americans: Why do you like the genocidal acts of your troops in Iraq and Afghanistan! Is it, because if your nation does it?<br />
We have no clues about this anymoore. The true Nazi state is United States. USA -SA-SS. That is what we shouted in 70 during the Vietnam war.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=422248', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Heraldblog</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/24/presidential-credibility/comment-page-2/#comment-422073</link>
		<dc:creator>Heraldblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 01:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have a weblog, please consider live blogging the SOTU next Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a weblog, please consider live blogging the SOTU next Monday.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=422073', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Youâ€™d get a lot of â€œProgressivesâ€ on THIS board to regale the advent of a Black VPâ€¦on this boardâ€¦

â€¦But my instincts tell me that when it came time to fill in the arrowâ€¦ 

Comment by big papa â€” January 25, 2006 @ 1:09 pm &lt;/em&gt;

Yes, I keep forgetting his skin color....  And that others still notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Youâ€™d get a lot of â€œProgressivesâ€ on THIS board to regale the advent of a Black VPâ€¦on this boardâ€¦</p>
<p>â€¦But my instincts tell me that when it came time to fill in the arrowâ€¦ </p>
<p>Comment by big papa â€” January 25, 2006 @ 1:09 pm </em></p>
<p>Yes, I keep forgetting his skin color&#8230;.  And that others still notice.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=421955', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Gore/Obama is the dream ticket for 2008, if America still exists by then, because 3 more years of Bush wars we might not survive! 

Comment by Jay Randal â€” January 25, 2006 @ 1:11 am &lt;/em&gt;

As word of mouth is the best form of advertizing there is - we should talk this up.  A lot.  This is the kind of spirit we need for 2008.  And if we start now, we can build some momentum.  Perhaps we should even suggest this to the Dems not interested in the job.  Just get the mantra going now...

Gore/Obama 2008
Gore/Obama 2008
Gore/Obama 2008
Gore/Obama 2008
Gore/Obama 2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Gore/Obama is the dream ticket for 2008, if America still exists by then, because 3 more years of Bush wars we might not survive! </p>
<p>Comment by Jay Randal â€” January 25, 2006 @ 1:11 am </em></p>
<p>As word of mouth is the best form of advertizing there is &#8211; we should talk this up.  A lot.  This is the kind of spirit we need for 2008.  And if we start now, we can build some momentum.  Perhaps we should even suggest this to the Dems not interested in the job.  Just get the mantra going now&#8230;</p>
<p>Gore/Obama 2008<br />
Gore/Obama 2008<br />
Gore/Obama 2008<br />
Gore/Obama 2008<br />
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Was raised a Catholic, now a pagan witch by choice. See so many simaraties on thought process and locations with many posters. 

Comment by Sharon Cox â€” January 25, 2006 @ 12:09 am &lt;/em&gt;

Another coincidence.  Was raised Catholic - and though now completely non-spiritual, share more of a respect for earth energy with you than any of the organized religions on the planet.  Prefer most animals to most people.  Am vegan and do what I can to &#039;leave no foot prints&#039;.  Would love to hear more about your beliefs.

I always imagine I&#039;ll wind up in Washington State eventually...  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Was raised a Catholic, now a pagan witch by choice. See so many simaraties on thought process and locations with many posters. </p>
<p>Comment by Sharon Cox â€” January 25, 2006 @ 12:09 am </em></p>
<p>Another coincidence.  Was raised Catholic &#8211; and though now completely non-spiritual, share more of a respect for earth energy with you than any of the organized religions on the planet.  Prefer most animals to most people.  Am vegan and do what I can to &#8216;leave no foot prints&#8217;.  Would love to hear more about your beliefs.</p>
<p>I always imagine I&#8217;ll wind up in Washington State eventually&#8230;  :)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=421945', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Ponder this:

Basically, there is a non-local, sub-quantal, instantaneous and supra-luminal connection or communication between two particals at a distance. If some want to call that God, or whatever, itâ€™s fine with me. It certainly is mysterious, donâ€™t you think? Nitey-nite. 

Comment by G. Gordon Giddy â€” January 24, 2006 @ 11:47 pm &lt;/em&gt;

I have heard of this...  Did you see &#039;What the Bleep Do we Know&#039;?  They spoke of it in that movie as well...  Which you might enjoy.

Mystery is an interesting thing.  And I think it&#039;s nice that we don&#039;t know everything.  But, I do believe that there is a logical, scientific explanation for everything - even if we haven&#039;t defined it yet.  There is considerable proof of science.  And that is what I believe in (why I teach it :).  Perhaps you could call Science my religion....  :)

There is another study you might like ( i have a friend like you who considers the energy in the universe &#039;God&#039;).  It&#039;s on the energy of water and its reactions to human emotion.  I forget the author - but he is Japanese...  Will try to find it for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Ponder this:</p>
<p>Basically, there is a non-local, sub-quantal, instantaneous and supra-luminal connection or communication between two particals at a distance. If some want to call that God, or whatever, itâ€™s fine with me. It certainly is mysterious, donâ€™t you think? Nitey-nite. </p>
<p>Comment by G. Gordon Giddy â€” January 24, 2006 @ 11:47 pm </em></p>
<p>I have heard of this&#8230;  Did you see &#8216;What the Bleep Do we Know&#8217;?  They spoke of it in that movie as well&#8230;  Which you might enjoy.</p>
<p>Mystery is an interesting thing.  And I think it&#8217;s nice that we don&#8217;t know everything.  But, I do believe that there is a logical, scientific explanation for everything &#8211; even if we haven&#8217;t defined it yet.  There is considerable proof of science.  And that is what I believe in (why I teach it :).  Perhaps you could call Science my religion&#8230;.  :)</p>
<p>There is another study you might like ( i have a friend like you who considers the energy in the universe &#8216;God&#8217;).  It&#8217;s on the energy of water and its reactions to human emotion.  I forget the author &#8211; but he is Japanese&#8230;  Will try to find it for you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=421935', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I was there in â€˜69 straight out of Manhattan, NY, not KS. Berkeley actually. It was the weather I ended up staying for, although at the time it was the other stuff.&lt;/em&gt;

I won&#039;t tell you how old I was then, but let&#039;s just say...  I don&#039;t remember it... :)  But those were the good old days.  It&#039;s changed.  Corporate America has eroded the hippiness over the city, and I left because I was going into debt living there on $65K...

&lt;em&gt;Iâ€™ve told you before, atheism, which I have an affinity for, is not to be confused with the certainty that there isnâ€™t something more, which is why I call myself an agnostic, or a gnostic, depending on my mood. &lt;/em&gt;

I still believe that the &#039;something more&#039; people tend to apply to supernatural or higher sources is actual human based (love, kindness, intuition, etc.)  I think everything we need can be found here in our world.  Perhaps it&#039;s the science geek in me that just does not think there is one iota of evidence that there is &quot;anything more&quot; in a traditional sense.  I just think we have been cultural indoctrinated to assume it comes from exterior sources...  There&#039;s a wonderful book - Natural Atheism by David Eller that you might wanna check out if you come across it.  One of the most logical and yet human explanations of Atheism I&#039;ve ever read.

&lt;em&gt;...or the ability to say â€œI donâ€™t knowâ€...&lt;/em&gt; 

In that reagrd, everyone is Agnoctic.  No one knows how we got here.  I just see zero proof for anything beyond plasmic forces and evolution...  hence a-theism...  no belief in god(s).


&lt;em&gt;Maybe you need to look into some of the Christian mystics, like Thomas Merton. Many years ago, before I gave up thinking about it, I was a practicing Sufi. I just read Dervish tales from time to time now. Those of the idiot Mullah Nasrudin being my favorite, and some Zen. &lt;/em&gt;

Prior to Christianity, I studied and practiced Zen Buddhism for a while.  But it became for philospohical for me in the sense of harmony with nature and self-worth.  I find most religions unappealing, and really don&#039;t feel I need them any longer.  I find my own sense of happiness from within myself.  I don&#039;t need or want a mystic source for it.

&lt;em&gt;No point in being certain about anything but death and taxesâ€¦ and Karma. Or as we call it here on the street, payback. 

Comment by G. Gordon Giddy â€” January 24, 2006 @ 11:22 pm &lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m okay with my certainty that this life is it.  Makes me respect it more.  I&#039;ve traveled more in my life than populations of some small towns combined...  I try just about anything once (as long as it has a positive intention), and as a result have had a very full life even though I&#039;m less than half way through it (barring any calamities).  I know that it&#039;s not comfortable for everyone, but it does work for me.  I like knowing that this is it.  I don&#039;t want eternity or next.  I just don&#039;t.  But thanks for sharing your thoughts with me.  It&#039;s always interesting to hear about other people&#039;s perspectives and experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I was there in â€˜69 straight out of Manhattan, NY, not KS. Berkeley actually. It was the weather I ended up staying for, although at the time it was the other stuff.</em></p>
<p>I won&#8217;t tell you how old I was then, but let&#8217;s just say&#8230;  I don&#8217;t remember it&#8230; :)  But those were the good old days.  It&#8217;s changed.  Corporate America has eroded the hippiness over the city, and I left because I was going into debt living there on $65K&#8230;</p>
<p><em>Iâ€™ve told you before, atheism, which I have an affinity for, is not to be confused with the certainty that there isnâ€™t something more, which is why I call myself an agnostic, or a gnostic, depending on my mood. </em></p>
<p>I still believe that the &#8217;something more&#8217; people tend to apply to supernatural or higher sources is actual human based (love, kindness, intuition, etc.)  I think everything we need can be found here in our world.  Perhaps it&#8217;s the science geek in me that just does not think there is one iota of evidence that there is &#8220;anything more&#8221; in a traditional sense.  I just think we have been cultural indoctrinated to assume it comes from exterior sources&#8230;  There&#8217;s a wonderful book &#8211; Natural Atheism by David Eller that you might wanna check out if you come across it.  One of the most logical and yet human explanations of Atheism I&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
<p><em>&#8230;or the ability to say â€œI donâ€™t knowâ€&#8230;</em> </p>
<p>In that reagrd, everyone is Agnoctic.  No one knows how we got here.  I just see zero proof for anything beyond plasmic forces and evolution&#8230;  hence a-theism&#8230;  no belief in god(s).</p>
<p><em>Maybe you need to look into some of the Christian mystics, like Thomas Merton. Many years ago, before I gave up thinking about it, I was a practicing Sufi. I just read Dervish tales from time to time now. Those of the idiot Mullah Nasrudin being my favorite, and some Zen. </em></p>
<p>Prior to Christianity, I studied and practiced Zen Buddhism for a while.  But it became for philospohical for me in the sense of harmony with nature and self-worth.  I find most religions unappealing, and really don&#8217;t feel I need them any longer.  I find my own sense of happiness from within myself.  I don&#8217;t need or want a mystic source for it.</p>
<p><em>No point in being certain about anything but death and taxesâ€¦ and Karma. Or as we call it here on the street, payback. </p>
<p>Comment by G. Gordon Giddy â€” January 24, 2006 @ 11:22 pm </em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m okay with my certainty that this life is it.  Makes me respect it more.  I&#8217;ve traveled more in my life than populations of some small towns combined&#8230;  I try just about anything once (as long as it has a positive intention), and as a result have had a very full life even though I&#8217;m less than half way through it (barring any calamities).  I know that it&#8217;s not comfortable for everyone, but it does work for me.  I like knowing that this is it.  I don&#8217;t want eternity or next.  I just don&#8217;t.  But thanks for sharing your thoughts with me.  It&#8217;s always interesting to hear about other people&#8217;s perspectives and experiences.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=421921', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#59, you might have the answer there UB - let John Stewart watch it for me and get the summary afterwards. I did consider trying for a drinking game version, but I have to work the next dayâ€¦ 

Comment by TerrytheTurtle â€” January 24, 2006 @ 11:18 pm &lt;/em&gt;

Uh, yeah...  bit of a nuisance that getting up for work can be :)  I actually have to watch the reruns the next day at 8:00 p.m. because I can&#039;t stay up that late...  But I&#039;m glad they play them during prime time on a channel everyone likes (well, everyone cool :).</description>
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<p>Comment by TerrytheTurtle â€” January 24, 2006 @ 11:18 pm </em></p>
<p>Uh, yeah&#8230;  bit of a nuisance that getting up for work can be :)  I actually have to watch the reruns the next day at 8:00 p.m. because I can&#8217;t stay up that late&#8230;  But I&#8217;m glad they play them during prime time on a channel everyone likes (well, everyone cool :).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=421891', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the vid. I&#039;m linking up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the vid. I&#8217;m linking up.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=421735', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Where is a good source for Bushâ€™s approval ratings?&lt;/i&gt;

How about the commode?

Oh, maybe you mean where can you find a current poll. Try &lt;a href=&quot;http://americanresearchgroup.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Where is a good source for Bushâ€™s approval ratings?</i></p>
<p>How about the commode?</p>
<p>Oh, maybe you mean where can you find a current poll. Try <a href="http://americanresearchgroup.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=421592', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Major props to you for that video! I wish it could be shown on prime time TV. 

There&#039;s no more effective way to puncture the fake bubble of manufactured &quot;mission accomplishments&quot; than to show the hollowness of Bush&#039;s own words. He looks like nothing more than a con-artist TV psychic forced to eat his own last year&#039;s predictions. Outstanding job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major props to you for that video! I wish it could be shown on prime time TV. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no more effective way to puncture the fake bubble of manufactured &#8220;mission accomplishments&#8221; than to show the hollowness of Bush&#8217;s own words. He looks like nothing more than a con-artist TV psychic forced to eat his own last year&#8217;s predictions. Outstanding job.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=421581', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<dc:creator>The WB42 5:30 Report With Doug Krile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Presidential Credibility...&lt;/strong&gt;

Senate Minority Leader, Harry Reid, delivered a tough speech yesterday, urging President Bush to &quot;come clean&quot; in his State of the Union speech next week.  The speech was prefaced by a video showing clips from past Presidential speeches compared to mo...</description>
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