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	<title>Comments on: UPDATE: Lauer Says &#8216;Technically Speaking,&#8217; It &#8216;May Be&#8217; That Abramoff Gave Only to Republicans</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce Gorton</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/27/lauer-russert-abramoff/comment-page-6/#comment-431291</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Gorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MA.

Bush has been a total disaster in policy.

The rest of the world was just getting to like the US when you attacked Iraq for no apparent reason (Sure Saddam was a dick, but so is Mugabe) other then oil.

Your internal economy is running on empty and China, the quiet communist super-power now more or less owns it in partnership with Saudi Arabia.

Your oldest civil rights are being systematically destroyed.

Congress is more corrupt then ever.

Social services are being cut back.

The educational sector isn&#039;t exactly happy either.

The average American wage has not even risen with inflation.

And your soldiers, fighting as a result of GWBs policies, are being forced to pay for treatment for their injuries sustained in combat.

Oh, and lets not forget how well the veterans are being treat by this pro-war administration.

Osama is still out there making tapes. Which seem to appear whenever there is an election. Which makes one think he actually likes the Bush Administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MA.</p>
<p>Bush has been a total disaster in policy.</p>
<p>The rest of the world was just getting to like the US when you attacked Iraq for no apparent reason (Sure Saddam was a dick, but so is Mugabe) other then oil.</p>
<p>Your internal economy is running on empty and China, the quiet communist super-power now more or less owns it in partnership with Saudi Arabia.</p>
<p>Your oldest civil rights are being systematically destroyed.</p>
<p>Congress is more corrupt then ever.</p>
<p>Social services are being cut back.</p>
<p>The educational sector isn&#8217;t exactly happy either.</p>
<p>The average American wage has not even risen with inflation.</p>
<p>And your soldiers, fighting as a result of GWBs policies, are being forced to pay for treatment for their injuries sustained in combat.</p>
<p>Oh, and lets not forget how well the veterans are being treat by this pro-war administration.</p>
<p>Osama is still out there making tapes. Which seem to appear whenever there is an election. Which makes one think he actually likes the Bush Administration.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=431291', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
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		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bIG dADDY - You can continue all you want - your observations are over stated, your analysis- plaigerized redundancy, and your humour, non-existent.  Could you please find some original material out there???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bIG dADDY &#8211; You can continue all you want &#8211; your observations are over stated, your analysis- plaigerized redundancy, and your humour, non-existent.  Could you please find some original material out there???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=430953', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
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		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your defense/national security viewpoint is seen as impotent by the majority of Americans. Does that mean they like warrantless spying - no! But it does mean they arenâ€™t stupid enough to bring a knife to a gunfight. 

Comment by mighty aphrodite #258

&lt;strong&gt;Puny Hermaphrodite,

Let&#039;s take a stroll through the defense/ foreign policy successes of the Republiscum criminal Bushite junta:

9/11...received PDB entitled &quot;bin Laden poised to attack on American soil&quot; or something to that effect...

Bushite response: golfing vacation...

Iraq: free elections held, Iranian forces in firm control of Shi&#039;ia majority...

Iran: &quot;got nukes

S. America: Viva la &#039;leftist revoluccion!

N. Korea: got nukes?

Afghanistan:  I just wanna get high, baby...

Shall I continue?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your defense/national security viewpoint is seen as impotent by the majority of Americans. Does that mean they like warrantless spying &#8211; no! But it does mean they arenâ€™t stupid enough to bring a knife to a gunfight. </p>
<p>Comment by mighty aphrodite #258</p>
<p><strong>Puny Hermaphrodite,</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a stroll through the defense/ foreign policy successes of the Republiscum criminal Bushite junta:</p>
<p>9/11&#8230;received PDB entitled &#8220;bin Laden poised to attack on American soil&#8221; or something to that effect&#8230;</p>
<p>Bushite response: golfing vacation&#8230;</p>
<p>Iraq: free elections held, Iranian forces in firm control of Shi&#8217;ia majority&#8230;</p>
<p>Iran: &#8220;got nukes</p>
<p>S. America: Viva la &#8216;leftist revoluccion!</p>
<p>N. Korea: got nukes?</p>
<p>Afghanistan:  I just wanna get high, baby&#8230;</p>
<p>Shall I continue?</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=430423', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Update: They&#8217;re Still Wrong.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/27/lauer-russert-abramoff/comment-page-6/#comment-429634</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Update: They&#8217;re Still Wrong.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Think Progress has the full transcript): [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cyra Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyra Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Matt Lauer... He&#039;s just so.... GLIB!!!</description>
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		<title>By: radlib1</title>
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		<dc:creator>radlib1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abramoff Clients Shifted Donations To GOP

by Scott Shields


The American Prospect commissioned a study of the political donations given by Indian tribes that had hired Jack Abramoff. The analysis was conducted by the non-partisan, for-profit campaign finance-specific research company Dwight L. Morris and Associates. The company&#039;s work has been cited heavily in the past by numerous media outlets, including the Republican-friendly Fox News and World Net Daily. Something tells me they won&#039;t be reporting this data, however. 

	â€¢ 	In total, the donations of Abramoff&#039;s tribal clients to Democrats dropped by nine percent after they hired him, while their donations to Republicans more than doubled, increasing by 135 percent after they signed him up;

	â€¢ 	Five out of seven of Abramoff&#039;s tribal clients vastly favored Republican candidates over Democratic ones;

	â€¢ 	Four of the seven began giving substantially more to Republicans than Democrats after he took them on;

	â€¢ 	Abramoff&#039;s clients gave well over twice as much to Republicans than Democrats, while tribes not affiliated with Abramoff gave well over twice as much to Democrats than the GOP -- exactly the reverse pattern.

It&#039;s a no-brainer that the Abramoff scandal is a Republican scandal. That&#039;s even the view held by more than a few Republicans. But the traditional media has been having trouble wrapping their heads around the idea, claiming over and over that both sides are equally guilty. Some solid data like this, definitively disproving that claim could very well go a long way in changing the conventional wisdom in the media.

http://www.mydd.com/


Get that? The Abramoff scandal is a Republican scandal, pure and simple. No ifs, ands, buts or slimy journalistic quibbles. Abramoff gave only to Republicans and he directed his tribal clients to give more to Republicans. There is nothing bi-partisan about this scandal. It&#039;s Republican at its rotten roots (Abramoff and DeLay) and it&#039;s Republican in its poisonous fruits.  

Please see following for true facts.

ACCURACY IN REPORTING --

&quot;It is not our job to seek peaceful coexistence with the Left. Our job is to remove them from power permanently.&quot;
-- Jack A. Abramoff

Â 
Incoming
 Â Â Â Â By William Rivers Pitt
 Â Â Â Â t r u t h o u t &#124; Perspective

Â Â Â Â All of official Washington is at this moment waiting with bated breath for the avalanche. Jack Abramoff, the disgraced super-lobbyist, has made a plea agreement in the massive prosecution against him and his cronies. Every talking head who has spoken on the subject has stated bluntly that the fallout from this plea deal will almost certainly result in the largest scandal to hit the capital in decades.

Â Â Â Â The questions, of course, are straightforward: Who is involved? Who took money from this guy? Who is on his pad? Most significantly, who did Abramoff name when he decided to sing to the prosecutors?

Â Â Â Â Republicans, nervous about the bad noise to come, have attempted to paint this as an equal-opportunity crime. To wit, the Democrats are into Abramoff as deeply as the GOP. The facts, however, do not bear this out. According to campaign donation information gathered by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics, the following officeholders and candidates have received political donations from Abramoff since 2000:

Â Â Â Â Tom DeLay (R-Texas). John Ashcroft (R-Mo.). Frank A. LoBiondo (R-NJ). Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Arlen Specter (R-Pa.). John Ensign (R-Nev.). Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Charles H. Taylor (R-NC). Chris Cannon (R-Utah). Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). Mark Foley (R-Fla.). Richard Pombo (R-Calif.). Christopher S. &quot;Kit&quot; Bond (R-Mo.). Curt Weldon (R-Pa.). Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.). Doug Ose (R-Calif.). Ernest J. Istook (R-Okla.). George R. Nethercutt Jr. (R-Wash.). Jim Bunning (R-Ky.). Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.). Tom Feeney (R-Fla.). Dan Burton (R-Ind.). Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Suzanne Terrell (R-La.). Rob Simmons (R-Conn.). Charles W. &quot;Chip&quot; Pickering Jr. (R-Miss.). Connie Morella (R-Md.). Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore.). James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.). James M. Talent (R-Mo.). John T. Doolittle (R-Calif.). John Thune (R-SD). Tim Hutchinson (R-Ark.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Bob Ney (R-Ohio). CL. &quot;Butch&quot; Otter (R-Idaho). Carolyn W. Grant (R-NC). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.). Elizabeth Dole (R-NC). Heather Wilson (R-NM). J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.). Jack Kingston (R-Ga.). James V. Hansen (R-Utah). John Cornyn (R-Texas). Kimo Kaloi (R-Hawaii). Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.). Mike Ferguson (R-NJ). Mike Simpson (R-Idaho). Ralph Regula (R-Ohio). Ric Keller (R-Fla.). Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). Ted Stevens (R-Alaska). Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). Dave Camp (R-Mich.). Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.). Tom Young (R-Ala.). Bill Janklow (R-SD). Craig Thomas (R-Wyo.). Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.). William L. Gormley (R-NJ). Bill McCollum (R-Fla.). Bill Redmond (R-NM). Bob Riley (R-Ala.). Claude B. Hutchison Jr. (R-Calif.). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.). Francis E. Flotron (R-Mo.). George Allen (R-Va.). Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.). Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-NC). Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Joe Pitts (R-PA). Charles H. Taylor (R-NC). Bob Ehrlich (R-Md.). Charles R. Gerow (R-Pa.). Ed Royce (R-Calif.). Elia Vincent Pirozzi (R-Calif.). Jerry Weller (R-Ill.). Mark Emerson (R-Utah). Tom Davis (R-Va.). Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).

Â Â Â Â Also:

Â Â Â Â Americans for a Republican Majority, Leadership PAC of Tom DeLay (R-Texas). Republican Majority Fund, Leadership PAC of Don Nickles (R-Okla.). Keep Our Majority PAC, Leadership PAC of Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). Leadership PAC, Leadership PAC of Michael G. Oxley (R-Ohio). Rely on Your Beliefs, Leadership PAC of Roy Blunt (R-Mo.). Friends of the Big Sky, Leadership PAC of Conrad Burns (R-Mont.). Senate Victory Fund, Leadership PAC of Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). American Liberty PAC, Leadership PAC of Bob Ney (R-Ohio). Battle Born PAC, Leadership PAC of John Ensign (R-Nev.). Fund for a Free Market America, Leadership PAC of Phil Crane (R-Ill.). Team PAC, Leadership PAC of J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.). The Republican Party of New Jersey.

Â Â Â Â Also:

Â Â Â Â George W. Bush (R).

Â Â Â Â Notice anything similar? Each and every name listed, each and every PAC, has an (R) after it. The Center for Responsive Politics does not have one Democrat - not one - listed as having received a donation from Jack Abramoff. The amounts given to the Republicans listed above amounts to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Â Â Â Â In extremis, Republicans have taken to bandying about the name of Byron Dorgan, Democratic Senator from North Dakota, as evidence that this Abramoff thing is a two-party scandal. Dorgan received $67,000 from Native American tribes represented by Abramoff - not from Abramoff himself - and has since returned the money. Furthermore, he got the money before the tribes had any dealings with Abramoff. In short, Dorgan&#039;s so-called involvement in the matter is a red herring.

Â Â Â Â As for Mr. Bush, he has given the Abramoff money he received to charity, according to the White House. DNC Chairman Howard Dean pegged the total amount Bush received from Abramoff at $100,000. Abramoff attended three Hannukah receptions at the Bush White House - Hannukah? What happened to fighting the War on Christmas? - but Bush denies knowing him. &quot;The president does not know him and does not recall meeting him,&quot; said White House spokesman Scott McClellan. &quot;It is possible that he could have met him at a holiday reception or some other widely attended event.&quot;

Â Â Â Â Heh. Sounds like what we heard from Bush about Kenny &quot;Boy&quot; Lay.

Â Â Â Â It is going to be an interesting year.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abramoff Clients Shifted Donations To GOP</p>
<p>by Scott Shields</p>
<p>The American Prospect commissioned a study of the political donations given by Indian tribes that had hired Jack Abramoff. The analysis was conducted by the non-partisan, for-profit campaign finance-specific research company Dwight L. Morris and Associates. The company&#8217;s work has been cited heavily in the past by numerous media outlets, including the Republican-friendly Fox News and World Net Daily. Something tells me they won&#8217;t be reporting this data, however. </p>
<p>	â€¢ 	In total, the donations of Abramoff&#8217;s tribal clients to Democrats dropped by nine percent after they hired him, while their donations to Republicans more than doubled, increasing by 135 percent after they signed him up;</p>
<p>	â€¢ 	Five out of seven of Abramoff&#8217;s tribal clients vastly favored Republican candidates over Democratic ones;</p>
<p>	â€¢ 	Four of the seven began giving substantially more to Republicans than Democrats after he took them on;</p>
<p>	â€¢ 	Abramoff&#8217;s clients gave well over twice as much to Republicans than Democrats, while tribes not affiliated with Abramoff gave well over twice as much to Democrats than the GOP &#8212; exactly the reverse pattern.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a no-brainer that the Abramoff scandal is a Republican scandal. That&#8217;s even the view held by more than a few Republicans. But the traditional media has been having trouble wrapping their heads around the idea, claiming over and over that both sides are equally guilty. Some solid data like this, definitively disproving that claim could very well go a long way in changing the conventional wisdom in the media.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mydd.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mydd.com/</a></p>
<p>Get that? The Abramoff scandal is a Republican scandal, pure and simple. No ifs, ands, buts or slimy journalistic quibbles. Abramoff gave only to Republicans and he directed his tribal clients to give more to Republicans. There is nothing bi-partisan about this scandal. It&#8217;s Republican at its rotten roots (Abramoff and DeLay) and it&#8217;s Republican in its poisonous fruits.  </p>
<p>Please see following for true facts.</p>
<p>ACCURACY IN REPORTING &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;It is not our job to seek peaceful coexistence with the Left. Our job is to remove them from power permanently.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Jack A. Abramoff</p>
<p>Â <br />
Incoming<br />
 Â Â Â Â By William Rivers Pitt<br />
 Â Â Â Â t r u t h o u t | Perspective</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â All of official Washington is at this moment waiting with bated breath for the avalanche. Jack Abramoff, the disgraced super-lobbyist, has made a plea agreement in the massive prosecution against him and his cronies. Every talking head who has spoken on the subject has stated bluntly that the fallout from this plea deal will almost certainly result in the largest scandal to hit the capital in decades.</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â The questions, of course, are straightforward: Who is involved? Who took money from this guy? Who is on his pad? Most significantly, who did Abramoff name when he decided to sing to the prosecutors?</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â Republicans, nervous about the bad noise to come, have attempted to paint this as an equal-opportunity crime. To wit, the Democrats are into Abramoff as deeply as the GOP. The facts, however, do not bear this out. According to campaign donation information gathered by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics, the following officeholders and candidates have received political donations from Abramoff since 2000:</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â Tom DeLay (R-Texas). John Ashcroft (R-Mo.). Frank A. LoBiondo (R-NJ). Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Arlen Specter (R-Pa.). John Ensign (R-Nev.). Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Charles H. Taylor (R-NC). Chris Cannon (R-Utah). Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). Mark Foley (R-Fla.). Richard Pombo (R-Calif.). Christopher S. &#8220;Kit&#8221; Bond (R-Mo.). Curt Weldon (R-Pa.). Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.). Doug Ose (R-Calif.). Ernest J. Istook (R-Okla.). George R. Nethercutt Jr. (R-Wash.). Jim Bunning (R-Ky.). Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.). Tom Feeney (R-Fla.). Dan Burton (R-Ind.). Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Suzanne Terrell (R-La.). Rob Simmons (R-Conn.). Charles W. &#8220;Chip&#8221; Pickering Jr. (R-Miss.). Connie Morella (R-Md.). Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore.). James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.). James M. Talent (R-Mo.). John T. Doolittle (R-Calif.). John Thune (R-SD). Tim Hutchinson (R-Ark.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Bob Ney (R-Ohio). CL. &#8220;Butch&#8221; Otter (R-Idaho). Carolyn W. Grant (R-NC). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.). Elizabeth Dole (R-NC). Heather Wilson (R-NM). J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.). Jack Kingston (R-Ga.). James V. Hansen (R-Utah). John Cornyn (R-Texas). Kimo Kaloi (R-Hawaii). Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.). Mike Ferguson (R-NJ). Mike Simpson (R-Idaho). Ralph Regula (R-Ohio). Ric Keller (R-Fla.). Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). Ted Stevens (R-Alaska). Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). Dave Camp (R-Mich.). Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.). Tom Young (R-Ala.). Bill Janklow (R-SD). Craig Thomas (R-Wyo.). Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.). William L. Gormley (R-NJ). Bill McCollum (R-Fla.). Bill Redmond (R-NM). Bob Riley (R-Ala.). Claude B. Hutchison Jr. (R-Calif.). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.). Francis E. Flotron (R-Mo.). George Allen (R-Va.). Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.). Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-NC). Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Joe Pitts (R-PA). Charles H. Taylor (R-NC). Bob Ehrlich (R-Md.). Charles R. Gerow (R-Pa.). Ed Royce (R-Calif.). Elia Vincent Pirozzi (R-Calif.). Jerry Weller (R-Ill.). Mark Emerson (R-Utah). Tom Davis (R-Va.). Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â Also:</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â Americans for a Republican Majority, Leadership PAC of Tom DeLay (R-Texas). Republican Majority Fund, Leadership PAC of Don Nickles (R-Okla.). Keep Our Majority PAC, Leadership PAC of Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). Leadership PAC, Leadership PAC of Michael G. Oxley (R-Ohio). Rely on Your Beliefs, Leadership PAC of Roy Blunt (R-Mo.). Friends of the Big Sky, Leadership PAC of Conrad Burns (R-Mont.). Senate Victory Fund, Leadership PAC of Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). American Liberty PAC, Leadership PAC of Bob Ney (R-Ohio). Battle Born PAC, Leadership PAC of John Ensign (R-Nev.). Fund for a Free Market America, Leadership PAC of Phil Crane (R-Ill.). Team PAC, Leadership PAC of J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.). The Republican Party of New Jersey.</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â Also:</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â George W. Bush (R).</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â Notice anything similar? Each and every name listed, each and every PAC, has an (R) after it. The Center for Responsive Politics does not have one Democrat &#8211; not one &#8211; listed as having received a donation from Jack Abramoff. The amounts given to the Republicans listed above amounts to hundreds of thousands of dollars.</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â In extremis, Republicans have taken to bandying about the name of Byron Dorgan, Democratic Senator from North Dakota, as evidence that this Abramoff thing is a two-party scandal. Dorgan received $67,000 from Native American tribes represented by Abramoff &#8211; not from Abramoff himself &#8211; and has since returned the money. Furthermore, he got the money before the tribes had any dealings with Abramoff. In short, Dorgan&#8217;s so-called involvement in the matter is a red herring.</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â As for Mr. Bush, he has given the Abramoff money he received to charity, according to the White House. DNC Chairman Howard Dean pegged the total amount Bush received from Abramoff at $100,000. Abramoff attended three Hannukah receptions at the Bush White House &#8211; Hannukah? What happened to fighting the War on Christmas? &#8211; but Bush denies knowing him. &#8220;The president does not know him and does not recall meeting him,&#8221; said White House spokesman Scott McClellan. &#8220;It is possible that he could have met him at a holiday reception or some other widely attended event.&#8221;</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â Heh. Sounds like what we heard from Bush about Kenny &#8220;Boy&#8221; Lay.</p>
<p>Â Â Â Â It is going to be an interesting year.</p>
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		<title>By: The Poor Man Institute &#187; Katie Lied</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Poor Man Institute &#187; Katie Lied</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] The thing I love about this lie is how it doesn&#8217;t even try to be plausible. The Center for Responsive Politics shows that life-long Republican activist Jack Abramoff donated $0.00 to Democrats. Shocker. After being alerted to the fact that the reference Couric cited plainly disproves her claim, NBC&#8217;s Matt Lauer and Tim Russert respond as any responsible media figure would respond - by moving the goalposts: LAUER: Katie pressed him [Howard Dean] on that and we did some research. We went to the Center for Responsive Politics and found out that technically speaking, Howard Dean may be correct. But hereâ€™s what we found. That 66 percent of the money in this situation went to Republicans, but 34 percent of the money â€” not from Abramoff, but from his associates and clients â€” went to Democrats. So, can Democrats wash their hands of this? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The thing I love about this lie is how it doesn&#8217;t even try to be plausible. The Center for Responsive Politics shows that life-long Republican activist Jack Abramoff donated $0.00 to Democrats. Shocker. After being alerted to the fact that the reference Couric cited plainly disproves her claim, NBC&#8217;s Matt Lauer and Tim Russert respond as any responsible media figure would respond &#8211; by moving the goalposts: LAUER: Katie pressed him [Howard Dean] on that and we did some research. We went to the Center for Responsive Politics and found out that technically speaking, Howard Dean may be correct. But hereâ€™s what we found. That 66 percent of the money in this situation went to Republicans, but 34 percent of the money â€” not from Abramoff, but from his associates and clients â€” went to Democrats. So, can Democrats wash their hands of this? [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=427953', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/27/lauer-russert-abramoff/comment-page-6/#comment-427613</link>
		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#228 - Dear Optimist - I apologize for the delay in answering your questions.  My only suggestion: Personalize only what I direct to you personally - many of my observations reflect my views of common progressive traits.
 &quot;...beyond 11th grade which is uncharacteristic for a garden variety troll. Do you have a conscience? Do you have morals?&quot; - Optimist
*****  Optimist, there ARE many educated liberal snobs, but contrary to your snotty comment, many conservatives are highly educated.  Those of us who have not attained advanced degrees often have an amazing amount of common sense and inate intelligence.  Of course I have a conscience -  your question was foolish but not surprising as liberals often feel superior to other mortal beings.  To wonder about a person having a conscience is to imply three things:
a.) one is a sociopath.
b.) one is not fully human.
c.) the question reflects poorly on the questionner.

Re: your question about my morals. Reflexively, I would refer you to a,b, and c above; but that would be intellectually lazy on my part.
I am not perfect - but I have learned from my mistakes, (or stupidity). But those who keep making the same mistakes continually - I have little patience with.  I will compare my personal morals with yours any day of the week - I won&#039;t be surprised to see your high moral score - but I&#039;ll suggest you not score yourself too highly in the &quot;humility&quot; department - as your questions reflect your strong sense of moral superiority.   

&quot;The implication in that statement is (1) Progressives (aka liberals) are terrorist supporters and (2) Progressives are anti-semetic.&quot; - Optimist - 
***** 
*MANY (note I did not say &quot;you&quot;) progressives &quot;understand&quot; the intense hatred terrorists violently display.  Viewing the &quot;imperialism&quot; and influence of the US with great disdain, progressives appear to lean toward the &quot;little guy&quot;.  I didn&#039;t see the Federalist Society filing friend of the court briefs on behalf of terror suspects. I DID see the ACLU (widely considered to be a &quot;progressive&quot; organization) defend and sue on behalf of our enemies.  
***Every progressive is not an anti-Semite.  But when watching large anti-war demonstrations on C-SPAN, (or demonstrations re: WTO or IMF) I see the pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel message in the mix.  I do not see conservatives (with the exception of the anti-Semite Pat Buchanan) bashing our closest ally in the Middle East.  But since my word is tainted with bias, check out the websites many contributors here at TP direct you to.  Plunger and the former liberal sage RyaNNe are only two of the various prog contributors here who ascribe most Middle East evil to the Mossad including 911.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#228 &#8211; Dear Optimist &#8211; I apologize for the delay in answering your questions.  My only suggestion: Personalize only what I direct to you personally &#8211; many of my observations reflect my views of common progressive traits.<br />
 &#8220;&#8230;beyond 11th grade which is uncharacteristic for a garden variety troll. Do you have a conscience? Do you have morals?&#8221; &#8211; Optimist<br />
*****  Optimist, there ARE many educated liberal snobs, but contrary to your snotty comment, many conservatives are highly educated.  Those of us who have not attained advanced degrees often have an amazing amount of common sense and inate intelligence.  Of course I have a conscience &#8211;  your question was foolish but not surprising as liberals often feel superior to other mortal beings.  To wonder about a person having a conscience is to imply three things:<br />
a.) one is a sociopath.<br />
b.) one is not fully human.<br />
c.) the question reflects poorly on the questionner.</p>
<p>Re: your question about my morals. Reflexively, I would refer you to a,b, and c above; but that would be intellectually lazy on my part.<br />
I am not perfect &#8211; but I have learned from my mistakes, (or stupidity). But those who keep making the same mistakes continually &#8211; I have little patience with.  I will compare my personal morals with yours any day of the week &#8211; I won&#8217;t be surprised to see your high moral score &#8211; but I&#8217;ll suggest you not score yourself too highly in the &#8220;humility&#8221; department &#8211; as your questions reflect your strong sense of moral superiority.   </p>
<p>&#8220;The implication in that statement is (1) Progressives (aka liberals) are terrorist supporters and (2) Progressives are anti-semetic.&#8221; &#8211; Optimist &#8211;<br />
*****<br />
*MANY (note I did not say &#8220;you&#8221;) progressives &#8220;understand&#8221; the intense hatred terrorists violently display.  Viewing the &#8220;imperialism&#8221; and influence of the US with great disdain, progressives appear to lean toward the &#8220;little guy&#8221;.  I didn&#8217;t see the Federalist Society filing friend of the court briefs on behalf of terror suspects. I DID see the ACLU (widely considered to be a &#8220;progressive&#8221; organization) defend and sue on behalf of our enemies.<br />
***Every progressive is not an anti-Semite.  But when watching large anti-war demonstrations on C-SPAN, (or demonstrations re: WTO or IMF) I see the pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel message in the mix.  I do not see conservatives (with the exception of the anti-Semite Pat Buchanan) bashing our closest ally in the Middle East.  But since my word is tainted with bias, check out the websites many contributors here at TP direct you to.  Plunger and the former liberal sage RyaNNe are only two of the various prog contributors here who ascribe most Middle East evil to the Mossad including 911.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=427613', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/27/lauer-russert-abramoff/comment-page-6/#comment-427261</link>
		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#252 - &quot;For now, you are my enemy and I will fight you until my side wins and this country can reestablish its former status as a beacon of hope and peace and true fredom. I hope youâ€™re ready for this fight, I expect it to be bloody and long and Iâ€™m ready. Good luck.&quot; 
Comment by Jay â€” January 28, 2006 @ 1:53 pm 
**** &quot;....as the beacon of hope and peace and true fredom (sic)&quot; - except if you disagree with progs.  Well Jay, you know what they say - with the bygone era of pre-terror fixed indelibly in your rear view mirror, don&#039;t be surprised to lose the mid-term elections. (The inability to re-capture the House or Senate should see big sales increases for Prozac and Valium in our elite urban-centers.)  Your  defense/national security viewpoint is seen as impotent by the majority of Americans.  Does that mean they like warrantless spying - no! But it does mean they aren&#039;t stupid enough to bring a knife to a gunfight.</description>
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Comment by Jay â€” January 28, 2006 @ 1:53 pm<br />
**** &#8220;&#8230;.as the beacon of hope and peace and true fredom (sic)&#8221; &#8211; except if you disagree with progs.  Well Jay, you know what they say &#8211; with the bygone era of pre-terror fixed indelibly in your rear view mirror, don&#8217;t be surprised to lose the mid-term elections. (The inability to re-capture the House or Senate should see big sales increases for Prozac and Valium in our elite urban-centers.)  Your  defense/national security viewpoint is seen as impotent by the majority of Americans.  Does that mean they like warrantless spying &#8211; no! But it does mean they aren&#8217;t stupid enough to bring a knife to a gunfight.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=427261', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/27/lauer-russert-abramoff/comment-page-6/#comment-427245</link>
		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#201 - &quot;We donâ€™t need a dictator; we need a criminal investigation tasked by an Independent Special Prosecutor and Grand Jury prosecuting justice with unlimited judicial subpoena power.&quot; Comment by Joe Buckstrap Van Winkle
****Dear Mr. Van Winkle - You mean like we handled the first WTC bombing under the brilliant foresight of Presidents Clinton &amp; clinton and General Reno?? Are you in a remedial history class?? Remedial reading???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#201 &#8211; &#8220;We donâ€™t need a dictator; we need a criminal investigation tasked by an Independent Special Prosecutor and Grand Jury prosecuting justice with unlimited judicial subpoena power.&#8221; Comment by Joe Buckstrap Van Winkle<br />
****Dear Mr. Van Winkle &#8211; You mean like we handled the first WTC bombing under the brilliant foresight of Presidents Clinton &amp; clinton and General Reno?? Are you in a remedial history class?? Remedial reading???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=427245', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wolfoputz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfoputz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals Still Control Washington, In Both Parties
http://www.savethegop.com/
This story in the Christian Science Monitor should keep us ever vigilant.
    During the first five years of President Bushâ€™s presidency, nondefense discretionary spending (i.e., spending decided on an annual basis) rose 27.9 percent, far more than the 1.9 percent growth during President Clintonâ€™s first five years, according to the libertarian Reason Foundation. And according to Citizens Against Government Waste, the number of congressional â€œpork barrelâ€ projects under Republican leadership during fiscal 2005 was 13,997, more than 10 times that of 1994.
This is even worseâ€¦ folks things are bleak because of the liberal Republican establishment that has a hold on Congress, and yes, the spending policies of the White House.
____________________________________
Now the &quot;College Republicans&quot; can see that ROVE and BUSHCO have LIED and misled the &quot;Neo-Conservatives&quot;  yet they are still so Media-ized, they STILL revert Back to &#039;liberal&#039; thunk. Even though Congress and Buschco have run the Ship, Still its the &#039;Invisible Liberals&quot; they fight..ODD.
Ya know this Person that wrote above,  is an &#039;Intellectual&#039; in her own circles, yet clearly the problem with her &quot;vision&#039; is because shes stuck on Opinions and Bias 


Id like to hear from MaD or Gary Or Ruppert, or one of these &#039;College republicans&#039;, come out  come out whereever you ARE!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals Still Control Washington, In Both Parties<br />
<a href="http://www.savethegop.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.savethegop.com/</a><br />
This story in the Christian Science Monitor should keep us ever vigilant.<br />
    During the first five years of President Bushâ€™s presidency, nondefense discretionary spending (i.e., spending decided on an annual basis) rose 27.9 percent, far more than the 1.9 percent growth during President Clintonâ€™s first five years, according to the libertarian Reason Foundation. And according to Citizens Against Government Waste, the number of congressional â€œpork barrelâ€ projects under Republican leadership during fiscal 2005 was 13,997, more than 10 times that of 1994.<br />
This is even worseâ€¦ folks things are bleak because of the liberal Republican establishment that has a hold on Congress, and yes, the spending policies of the White House.<br />
____________________________________<br />
Now the &#8220;College Republicans&#8221; can see that ROVE and BUSHCO have LIED and misled the &#8220;Neo-Conservatives&#8221;  yet they are still so Media-ized, they STILL revert Back to &#8216;liberal&#8217; thunk. Even though Congress and Buschco have run the Ship, Still its the &#8216;Invisible Liberals&#8221; they fight..ODD.<br />
Ya know this Person that wrote above,  is an &#8216;Intellectual&#8217; in her own circles, yet clearly the problem with her &#8220;vision&#8217; is because shes stuck on Opinions and Bias </p>
<p>Id like to hear from MaD or Gary Or Ruppert, or one of these &#8216;College republicans&#8217;, come out  come out whereever you ARE!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=427198', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wolfoputz</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/27/lauer-russert-abramoff/comment-page-5/#comment-427121</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfoputz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heres the Cretins Method, SPIN SPIN SPIN, Its all about &#039;misleading keywords&#039; PARROTS
Nothing but a Bunch of Lying Parrots that will SAY anything OVER AND OVER. 
ennyhoo Enjoy a Trip into&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&#039;WIMPVILLE&#039;&lt;strong&gt;
Weâ€™d just returned from the first College Republicans meeting of the semester. The Northwestern group is a branch of the College Republican National Committee, whose membership has more than tripled in the past six years. On the surface, it had looked like any other gathering of college kids: about a dozen students sitting around a classroom, sipping Diet Coke and munching on Papa Johnâ€™s pizza. But as the group started discussing its agenda, I realized I was witnessing something extraordinary. If youâ€™ve ever wondered where the legions of conservative pundits are trained and schooled, where the talk-radio hosts and cable news guests and best-selling authors of jeremiads with inflammatory titles come from, it all starts here, in little classrooms like this one. These humble gatherings, full of kids in Greek-lettered T-shirts and sweats, are the incubator for the future of the right wing.

What the entire meeting would boil down to was message discipline. College Republican President Henry Bowles III, a junior whose vintage T-shirt and carefully tousled hair made him look like the lead singer of an indie-rock band, got things started. He told the group that for the duration of the semester, each session would start with a presentation on some important issue. This week Ben Snyder, a member of Students for Life, would give a PowerPoint presentation about the upcoming Supreme Court battles titled â€œUs vs. Them.â€ And next week, said Henry, someone would be talking about the flat tax.

â€œFair tax. Itâ€™s fair tax now,â€ said a guy in the front row wearing a Zeppelin T-shirt.

â€œRight,â€ said Henry. â€œFair tax. Thatâ€™s the euphemism.â€

A little later, as Ben discussed the impending battle over Supreme Court nominees, he mentioned the possibility that Senate Republicans would rewrite filibuster rules so Democrats couldnâ€™t filibuster judicial nominees. This strategy is often called the â€œnuclear optionâ€ because it could provoke a war between the two parties, but has, Ben told the group, â€œnow been renamed the constitutional option.â€

Guy was the most vocal person in the room, gently correcting his comradesâ€™ facts and terminology, offering up tidbits and arguments that others might want to employ when arguing with liberals. It was clear that heâ€™d done his homework. When Ben talked about renaming the nuclear/constitutional option, Guy raised his hand and provided some background. While liberals express outrage at the thought of amending Senate rules, he said, the practice of filibustering nominees â€œis at the very least extraconstitutional, perhaps unconstitutional.â€ Everyone in the room listened intently. In fact, he went on, during the Constitutional Convention no less a figure than James Madison had taken the presidentâ€™s power to appoint his cabinet to be so strong he proposed that a two-thirds majority be required to vote down a nominee. â€œSo,â€ he concluded, â€œI think thatâ€™s an interesting tool to use when youâ€™re debating this issue with people.â€ The other kids nodded, looking serious.

I graduated from college four years ago, and I happen to have spent a good percentage of my time as an undergraduate talking about politics â€“ in my case, sweatshop labor and other lefty causes â€“ with my activist friends. With the possible exception of a few mild admonitions for language that wasnâ€™t sufficiently PC, I never saw anyone interrupt anyone for slipping off message. I was also surprised to see the Republican kids collectively generating arguments to use when fighting with liberals, sharpening their talking points, and preparing for battle. My fellow liberals and I didnâ€™t see ourselves as engaged in a war of ideas. We probably didnâ€™t even realize there were any conservatives around to fight with.

The meeting ended with an announcement that the club would soon be conducting elections for officers. Someone asked Guy if he was going to run for president, since he seemed the obvious successor to Henry. Guy demurred, though, saying he thought an official position with the College Republicans might limit his future journalistic career.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heres the Cretins Method, SPIN SPIN SPIN, Its all about &#8216;misleading keywords&#8217; PARROTS<br />
Nothing but a Bunch of Lying Parrots that will SAY anything OVER AND OVER.<br />
ennyhoo Enjoy a Trip into<strong> </strong>&#8216;WIMPVILLE&#8217;<strong><br />
Weâ€™d just returned from the first College Republicans meeting of the semester. The Northwestern group is a branch of the College Republican National Committee, whose membership has more than tripled in the past six years. On the surface, it had looked like any other gathering of college kids: about a dozen students sitting around a classroom, sipping Diet Coke and munching on Papa Johnâ€™s pizza. But as the group started discussing its agenda, I realized I was witnessing something extraordinary. If youâ€™ve ever wondered where the legions of conservative pundits are trained and schooled, where the talk-radio hosts and cable news guests and best-selling authors of jeremiads with inflammatory titles come from, it all starts here, in little classrooms like this one. These humble gatherings, full of kids in Greek-lettered T-shirts and sweats, are the incubator for the future of the right wing.</p>
<p>What the entire meeting would boil down to was message discipline. College Republican President Henry Bowles III, a junior whose vintage T-shirt and carefully tousled hair made him look like the lead singer of an indie-rock band, got things started. He told the group that for the duration of the semester, each session would start with a presentation on some important issue. This week Ben Snyder, a member of Students for Life, would give a PowerPoint presentation about the upcoming Supreme Court battles titled â€œUs vs. Them.â€ And next week, said Henry, someone would be talking about the flat tax.</p>
<p>â€œFair tax. Itâ€™s fair tax now,â€ said a guy in the front row wearing a Zeppelin T-shirt.</p>
<p>â€œRight,â€ said Henry. â€œFair tax. Thatâ€™s the euphemism.â€</p>
<p>A little later, as Ben discussed the impending battle over Supreme Court nominees, he mentioned the possibility that Senate Republicans would rewrite filibuster rules so Democrats couldnâ€™t filibuster judicial nominees. This strategy is often called the â€œnuclear optionâ€ because it could provoke a war between the two parties, but has, Ben told the group, â€œnow been renamed the constitutional option.â€</p>
<p>Guy was the most vocal person in the room, gently correcting his comradesâ€™ facts and terminology, offering up tidbits and arguments that others might want to employ when arguing with liberals. It was clear that heâ€™d done his homework. When Ben talked about renaming the nuclear/constitutional option, Guy raised his hand and provided some background. While liberals express outrage at the thought of amending Senate rules, he said, the practice of filibustering nominees â€œis at the very least extraconstitutional, perhaps unconstitutional.â€ Everyone in the room listened intently. In fact, he went on, during the Constitutional Convention no less a figure than James Madison had taken the presidentâ€™s power to appoint his cabinet to be so strong he proposed that a two-thirds majority be required to vote down a nominee. â€œSo,â€ he concluded, â€œI think thatâ€™s an interesting tool to use when youâ€™re debating this issue with people.â€ The other kids nodded, looking serious.</p>
<p>I graduated from college four years ago, and I happen to have spent a good percentage of my time as an undergraduate talking about politics â€“ in my case, sweatshop labor and other lefty causes â€“ with my activist friends. With the possible exception of a few mild admonitions for language that wasnâ€™t sufficiently PC, I never saw anyone interrupt anyone for slipping off message. I was also surprised to see the Republican kids collectively generating arguments to use when fighting with liberals, sharpening their talking points, and preparing for battle. My fellow liberals and I didnâ€™t see ourselves as engaged in a war of ideas. We probably didnâ€™t even realize there were any conservatives around to fight with.</p>
<p>The meeting ended with an announcement that the club would soon be conducting elections for officers. Someone asked Guy if he was going to run for president, since he seemed the obvious successor to Henry. Guy demurred, though, saying he thought an official position with the College Republicans might limit his future journalistic career.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=427121', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wolfoputz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfoputz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>College Republicans Still Silent on Corruption Charges

Last week, the Seattle Times brought an expose on the deceptive fundraising practices of the &lt;strong&gt;College Republicans&lt;/strong&gt; (Abramoff Rove Norquist), a group that spends &quot;nearly 90 percent ... to direct-mail vendors and postage expenses, according to records filed with the Internal Revenue Service.&quot; 
    An Oct. 28 Seattle Times article said the &lt;strong&gt;College Republican National Committee&lt;/strong&gt; raised millions of dollars since 2001 partly by using official-sounding names such as &quot;Republican Headquarters 2004&quot; and &quot;Republican Elections Committee&quot; in a direct-mail fundraising campaign. The story said that many voters in their &lt;strong&gt;80s and 90s donated to the groups, which they thought were affiliated with the Bush campaign.&lt;/strong&gt; Instead, most of the money was spent on the direct-mail program and postage expenses for the college group.
 the group&#039;s finance chair in 2002. &quot;He has more than tripled the output of direct mail program while cutting costs, resulting in an exponential increase in CRNC fundraising,&quot; the site (www.crnc.org) said.

YaY Rip OFF the Elderly Citizens! YaY College Republican Conservives&quot;  and CRNC! YaY oh YaY.</description>
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<p>Last week, the Seattle Times brought an expose on the deceptive fundraising practices of the <strong>College Republicans</strong> (Abramoff Rove Norquist), a group that spends &#8220;nearly 90 percent &#8230; to direct-mail vendors and postage expenses, according to records filed with the Internal Revenue Service.&#8221;<br />
    An Oct. 28 Seattle Times article said the <strong>College Republican National Committee</strong> raised millions of dollars since 2001 partly by using official-sounding names such as &#8220;Republican Headquarters 2004&#8243; and &#8220;Republican Elections Committee&#8221; in a direct-mail fundraising campaign. The story said that many voters in their <strong>80s and 90s donated to the groups, which they thought were affiliated with the Bush campaign.</strong> Instead, most of the money was spent on the direct-mail program and postage expenses for the college group.<br />
 the group&#8217;s finance chair in 2002. &#8220;He has more than tripled the output of direct mail program while cutting costs, resulting in an exponential increase in CRNC fundraising,&#8221; the site (www.crnc.org) said.</p>
<p>YaY Rip OFF the Elderly Citizens! YaY College Republican Conservives&#8221;  and CRNC! YaY oh YaY.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=427081', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nikolai</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikolai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Jay. We&#039;ll see what happens in the &#039;06 elections won&#039;t we? I have a friend who is a volunteer in the Democratic party(I&#039;m a registered Independent myself, but side with the Democrats for the most part when it comes to important issues), and he is convinced people are beginning to see &quot;the light&quot;, as he has the data to prove it, or at least so he says. He is convinced the winds of change are stirring, and by golly, I hope and pray he is right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Jay. We&#8217;ll see what happens in the &#8216;06 elections won&#8217;t we? I have a friend who is a volunteer in the Democratic party(I&#8217;m a registered Independent myself, but side with the Democrats for the most part when it comes to important issues), and he is convinced people are beginning to see &#8220;the light&#8221;, as he has the data to prove it, or at least so he says. He is convinced the winds of change are stirring, and by golly, I hope and pray he is right.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=427050', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To voter #245,

It&#039;s a hoot watching these criminals destroy our country piece by painful piece, huh? Every win for the GOP and the Bush admin (regardless of whether it was legitimate or ill-gotten) is another nail on the coffin in which our democracy currently rests. This isn&#039;t fringe thought or rabid partisanship, it&#039;s the truth.

For now, you are my enemy and I will fight you until my side wins and this country can reestablish its former status as a beacon of hope and peace and true fredom. I hope you&#039;re ready for this fight, I expect it to be bloody and long and I&#039;m ready. Good luck.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s a hoot watching these criminals destroy our country piece by painful piece, huh? Every win for the GOP and the Bush admin (regardless of whether it was legitimate or ill-gotten) is another nail on the coffin in which our democracy currently rests. This isn&#8217;t fringe thought or rabid partisanship, it&#8217;s the truth.</p>
<p>For now, you are my enemy and I will fight you until my side wins and this country can reestablish its former status as a beacon of hope and peace and true fredom. I hope you&#8217;re ready for this fight, I expect it to be bloody and long and I&#8217;m ready. Good luck.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=426972', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nikolai</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikolai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t know how much more obvious it has to be that (the current administration is corrupt and inept) before America rises up and demands impeachment of bush. First blatently stealing the 2000 election, then the &quot;response&quot; to 911, re, my pet goat, letting Bin Laden escape, etc, then starting an unprovoked war on a piss-ant little (but full-of-oil) country when we already had control of their skies, and president cheney so obviously awarding lucrative contracts to his former(present?) company/cronies, over 100 million dolars missing/unaccounted for, then stealing the 2004 election, can you say &quot;Diebold?&quot; Then Katrina, then...
Well the mind boggles, there are many more complete foul-ups, but isn&#039;t what is listed here more than enough to outrage the average American? Apparently not, and the bushies know this; they are stomping over our land (and the rest of the world) as they use the constitution for toilet paper and commit murder in the name of Christ(Kill those brown-skinned heathens!) You can laugh at the hippy-dippy-hippies of the 60&#039;s, but by gawd they got off their butts and into the streets and raised hell about things which were NOT right; I guess Americans asses have grown too fat and complacent to get off their collective couches and leave their TIVOs and wide-screen TVs to do something as gauche as protest in the streets....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know how much more obvious it has to be that (the current administration is corrupt and inept) before America rises up and demands impeachment of bush. First blatently stealing the 2000 election, then the &#8220;response&#8221; to 911, re, my pet goat, letting Bin Laden escape, etc, then starting an unprovoked war on a piss-ant little (but full-of-oil) country when we already had control of their skies, and president cheney so obviously awarding lucrative contracts to his former(present?) company/cronies, over 100 million dolars missing/unaccounted for, then stealing the 2004 election, can you say &#8220;Diebold?&#8221; Then Katrina, then&#8230;<br />
Well the mind boggles, there are many more complete foul-ups, but isn&#8217;t what is listed here more than enough to outrage the average American? Apparently not, and the bushies know this; they are stomping over our land (and the rest of the world) as they use the constitution for toilet paper and commit murder in the name of Christ(Kill those brown-skinned heathens!) You can laugh at the hippy-dippy-hippies of the 60&#8217;s, but by gawd they got off their butts and into the streets and raised hell about things which were NOT right; I guess Americans asses have grown too fat and complacent to get off their collective couches and leave their TIVOs and wide-screen TVs to do something as gauche as protest in the streets&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=426906', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
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		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what should be done to me? Kill those who dissent?

AND your punishment for your hateful campaign to smear President Bush is Justice Samuel Alito. AND this is just the beginning. 

Comment by Innocent Lite #69

&lt;strong&gt;Idiot Lowbrow,

Your Bush worshipping isn&#039;t dissent, it&#039;s treason...

As for ScandaAlito, Tom&#039;ass, Robber&#039;ts, and Scumlito nothing impeachment and trials for treason can&#039;t fix...

Kill it (politically) before it grows...&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what should be done to me? Kill those who dissent?</p>
<p>AND your punishment for your hateful campaign to smear President Bush is Justice Samuel Alito. AND this is just the beginning. </p>
<p>Comment by Innocent Lite #69</p>
<p><strong>Idiot Lowbrow,</p>
<p>Your Bush worshipping isn&#8217;t dissent, it&#8217;s treason&#8230;</p>
<p>As for ScandaAlito, Tom&#8217;ass, Robber&#8217;ts, and Scumlito nothing impeachment and trials for treason can&#8217;t fix&#8230;</p>
<p>Kill it (politically) before it grows&#8230;</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=426814', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post 245 &gt; I guess you like an America that is fascist and run by a clown bent on wars of aggression? Germany under Hitler was NOT a fun place! Bush is destroying America daily, but you do NOT care! Lol &gt; you think he won the election, but he cheats to win &gt; makes you proud huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post 245 &gt; I guess you like an America that is fascist and run by a clown bent on wars of aggression? Germany under Hitler was NOT a fun place! Bush is destroying America daily, but you do NOT care! Lol &gt; you think he won the election, but he cheats to win &gt; makes you proud huh?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=426752', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#247 This is very much like the Rove tactics. During the Republican primaries, Bush campaigners asked questions like, &quot;Did you know John McCain has a black daughter?&quot; The truth is, he is not the father, as they want you to assume. He and his wife adopted a black girl. During the presidential campaigning, they asked such questions as, &quot;If you knew Kerry was a drug user, would you vote for him.&quot; &quot;Techinically&quot; that&#039;s not a lie because of the word &quot;If.&quot; But again, the uninformed may assume he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#247 This is very much like the Rove tactics. During the Republican primaries, Bush campaigners asked questions like, &#8220;Did you know John McCain has a black daughter?&#8221; The truth is, he is not the father, as they want you to assume. He and his wife adopted a black girl. During the presidential campaigning, they asked such questions as, &#8220;If you knew Kerry was a drug user, would you vote for him.&#8221; &#8220;Techinically&#8221; that&#8217;s not a lie because of the word &#8220;If.&#8221; But again, the uninformed may assume he is.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=426691', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ron McElroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron McElroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abramoff &quot;&lt;em&gt;and his associates&lt;/em&gt;&quot; is the operative word.  You could also be 100% accurate to say &quot;Katie Couric and her audience had multiple abortions in 2005&quot;  It would be disingenuious, but also correct.  Truth tellers must address this same issue with the same outrageous examples.  We can&#039;t correct them, we need to teach America to use logic and tear their false-logic apart.  &quot;Can their leagailistic argument be interprited another way?&quot;  That will lead people to actually think - not just repeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abramoff &#8220;<em>and his associates</em>&#8221; is the operative word.  You could also be 100% accurate to say &#8220;Katie Couric and her audience had multiple abortions in 2005&#8243;  It would be disingenuious, but also correct.  Truth tellers must address this same issue with the same outrageous examples.  We can&#8217;t correct them, we need to teach America to use logic and tear their false-logic apart.  &#8220;Can their leagailistic argument be interprited another way?&#8221;  That will lead people to actually think &#8211; not just repeat.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=426626', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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