So what if Chris Matthews overestimated support for unwarranted snooping by a few points? In the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, the indignation should be overwhelming, and Bush should be facing Articles of Impeachment and unruly demonstrations against his tyrannical acts.

He can take comfort from these polls. And anyway, why should he care about polls? He’s not running for anything.

The election is eight months away. What is the progressive movement in the US doing about finding candidates and building support for them? Or is the strategy (again) to hope the Republicans defeat themselves?

National hatred fills your eyes all the day
And you listen to the lies you heard them say
Left’s a man without conviction
A woman who doesn’t know
The place granted by her condition
They come and go
They come and go

Repub Repub Repub Repub Republican
The lies they told
The lies they told
Honesty shouldn’t be a death sentence
White blue and red
White blue and red

Didn’t hear their wicked words every day
The power of Congress is so quaint you heard them say
Rule of law is on their condition
The right to privacy is should be gone
The constitution has been around too long
You’ll sing along
You’ll sing along

Repub Repub Repub Repub Republican
The lies they told
The lies they told
Honesty shouldn’t be a death sentence
White blue and red
White blue and red

As every day becomes survival
Against an enemy and a rival
Left’s a man without conviction
A woman who doesn’t know
The place granted by her condition
They come and go
They come and go

Kindest regards.

Comment by mighty aphrodite #421

Puny Hermaphrodite,

If you believe so then you’ve never really experienced freedom and democracy…

Comment by NCMIH #427

e-mail/call their sponsors, their producers, and NBC…

and don’t watch them…

FISA is a law enacted by Congress that gives the President broad surveillance powers during war time and for matters of national security. Do you approve or disapprove of President Bush’s actions which circumvent the FISA Law

“BUT if a state wide recount was done Gore won.”

Not if the three independent reviewers were required to have a concensus before counting a vote.

“Under a standard in which all three were required to agree, Bush won by 219 votes.”

In all of the other senerios no concensus was required.

Citing that World Socialist web site and the NY Times as holding their OPINION that the Florida vote was surpressed when election LAWS were being violated and/or made up as the recount continued is totally bogus…and yes they do kiss ass…i.e. their left wing constituents

That’s why laws are what matter, not polls.

Regarding those quaint Quakers. I’m sure you are familiar with the American Friends Service Committee. This group has caused havoc down here in SD with their push for open borders and their opposition to any border enforcement. Again, this is 9/10/2001 thinking.

I suppose progressives may want to maintain that title with their influence on the arts and culture but when it comes to national security they should start digging out those “smart” pill box hats or hand made leather sandals. Many of the progressive viewpoints are as current as macrame, BETA, and analog phones.

Kindest regards.

Sir Humphrey: “You know what happens: nice young lady comes up to you. Obviously you want to create a good impression, you don’t want to look a fool, do you? So she starts asking you some questions: Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the number of young people without jobs?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Are you worried about the rise in crime among teenagers?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Do you think there is a lack of discipline in our Comprehensive schools?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Do you think young people welcome some authority and leadership in their lives?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Do you think they respond to a challenge?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Would you be in favour of reintroducing National Service?”
Bernard Woolley: “Oh…well, I suppose I might be.”
Sir Humphrey: “Yes or no?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Of course you would, Bernard. After all you told you can’t say no to that. So they don’t mention the first five questions and they publish the last one.”
Bernard Woolley: “Is that really what they do?”
Sir Humphrey: “Well, not the reputable ones no, but there aren’t many of those. So alternatively the young lady can get the opposite result.”
Bernard Woolley: “How?”
Sir Humphrey: “Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the danger of war?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Are you worried about the growth of armaments?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Do you think there is a danger in giving young people guns and teaching them how to kill?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Do you think it is wrong to force people to take up arms against their will?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “Would you oppose the reintroduction of National Service?”
Bernard Woolley: “Yes”
Sir Humphrey: “There you are, you see Bernard. The perfect balanced sample.”

What you Fail, and many others fail to see, is that the true ruling Structure has, thru corruption, bought out the Republican College, the Falwells, the Robertsons, the Delays and the Abramoffs.

An Example;
From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

Winston Churchill,
stated to the London Press, in l922.

Now, what many wouldnt Know, above, is that Trotsky wasnt His name. Marxism is of course Fascism, Today Under Bush its Privatization, or Capitalism. In effect Socialism

Now Tracy will continue Her/His diatribe into past Times. Yet the Picture is much bigger Tracy. Churchill says Conspiracy, but that really only means a ‘Plan’, or a powerful Ideological Group.Such as the Neo-Cons (25-30 core hardliners)

Now take this Quote from George Bush Sr,
It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance.”
President George Bush
addressing the General Assembly of the U.N.,
February 1,1992

You are a “Neo-CON” tracy, you have agreed with all their crimes so far, what do you make of what Bush Sr Said here?
Why would Sr. Want us to pledge Allegiance to the UN?

For some Reason, Tracy, has come into this Ideology that Democrats and Republicans are like two Seperate Races, or Colors. In this Assumption one misses the fact that we operate, currently, under a Republic Duoply.

When as many of the Democratic and Republicans Collude on the same issues, behind closed doors, and the Congress allows Signings by the president, and given him the ever increasing Powers he has today, which Both Parties agreed upon to Pass, even though Tracy speaks of Democracy, that in effect, have helped to Subvert democracy.

Now Tracy are you a Socialist?
And what Kind?

Rover is eating ‘CHEESE’ on the unaware Media Watchers.

And hes not the First to do so, nor the last, same game, over and over. Look back thru History, the Crisis and the Laws written afterwords. The Pattern is fairly clear. Parties aside, people have continued, thru induced Fear by the STATE, to give up more rights than the people obtained.

Tracy, intent upon one or two ‘talking points’, ‘blinders on’, ignores the big picture, and fails to see that he is also have his cheese eaten.

“BUT if a state wide recount was done Gore won.”

Not if the three independent reviewers were required to have a concensus before counting a vote. Fact.

“Under a standard in which all three were required to agree, Bush won by 219 votes.”

In all of the other senerios no concensus was required.

Citing that World Socialist web site and the NY Times as holding their OPINION that the Florida vote was surpressed when election LAWS were being violated and/or made up as the recount continued is totally bogus…and yes they do kiss ass…i.e. their left wing constituents.

Washington Post/ABC (Jan. 23-26) “As you may know, the National Security Agency has been investigating people suspected of involvement with terrorism by secretly listening in on telephone calls and reading e-mails between some people in the United States and other countries, without first getting court approval to do so. Would you consider this wiretapping of telephone calls and e-mails without court approval as an acceptable or unacceptable way for the federal government to investigate terrorism?”

Acceptable 56%. Unacceptable 43%.

Whats wrong with this POLL is it infers that ONLY SOME are being tapped, and then they ARE only supposed to be suspected terrorists.

A: Cheney/Bush/Rove were spying on ‘Political’ foes before bushs 2002 Secret program.
B; These people were NOT Terrorists
C: The NSA sigint LISTENS to ALL calls for KEYWORDS.
D: Not only are ALL communications filtered thru…Data mining such as TIA (renamed and Hidden) will acess business databases and relay the information for that ‘Shopping Card’ avery store uses now. (some discount they pay you to steal your data in effect)
E. The Fourth Amendment describes Illegal Wires Taps as Illegal Search and Seizure. (breakiing and entering)

that is effect is what happens, Breaking and Entering.
As a Crook Breaks into your home, YOU are INNOCENT, and takes something, without your consent. Now Replace crooks with Rove or Cheney. Not very trustworthy people to be putting information into the hands of.

You could be innocent and while speaking on the Phones to a Friend about a Rock Band that sucked the night before :”The Bushies Bombed”

Congrats you have been considered a ‘Terrorist in America’

and thats the danger of these programs, using gathered intelligence, as Bushco has, to further a political agenda, and not a Public one.

Comment by yeranalyst — January 31, 2006 @ 4:22 am

Excellent!