24 minutes of applause.
“Without applause, practice runs have taken about 36 minutes. The [State of the Union] speech will likely extend to an hour as members of the joint session of Congress, the Supreme Court justices, the Cabinet and the Joint Chiefs of Staff applaud their favorite proposals and rhetorical flourishes.”
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January 30th, 2006 at 10:02 pmSo, they have worked in 24 minutes of appluase, because Bush has trouble speaking for 5 minutes let alone an hour. When Gore gave his speech on Bush’s illegal activities, he spoke for an hour and fifteen minutes and kept speaking while the audience applauded.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:04 pmAre the Dems required to go? Why don’t they just blow it off? He’s going to lie anyway? WTF?
January 30th, 2006 at 10:04 pmAll this fake adoration gets rather old
January 30th, 2006 at 10:07 pmwhen everyone knows the level of
incompetence reached by this guy.
Thank goodness for DVDs.
Why are opposition walkouts only allowed in British or Indian Parliaments? Why not here??
January 30th, 2006 at 10:07 pmHey I just googled “opposition walks out” to see which other countries do this, and found this article. Should be a good read…
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012206A.shtml
January 30th, 2006 at 10:10 pmThey could just take their GameBoys and CD players.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:13 pmGod, I’m going to hurl.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:18 pmYou know what the biggest problem is.
40% of the Democrats vote Republican 70% of the time. How are we supposed to get anything doen if our supposed leaders are nothing but Republican Lite.
The fvcking Democrats who voted for cloture need to be voted out. We need to send a message that we don’t support Democrats that support the Republicans.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:24 pmcouple hours of slurping afterwards.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:27 pmAs heard on AAR:
What’s the difference between SOTU and Groundhog Day?
One involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to a creature of little intelligence for prognostication, and the other involves a groundhog.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:29 pmBet Lieberman sits as close to the front as he can get, and nods “yes” every time Bush or Cheney looks at him.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:33 pmThis “president” is incapable of telling the truth. Expect more of the same stone-walling and outright lying. The prez has done nothing but promote his own “vision”. Are we any safer than 5 years ago? No. Has he put forth a positive image of America? No. The rest of the world hates us with good reason. We use white phosphorus against civilians. With the Hamas win, will Bush so enthustically push democracy? No. “We don’t negotiate with terrorists”. Well, bush, they are DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED. He has no conception of justice or mercy. The “spoiled brat” of a former President was doing better when he was drinking and sniffing.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:36 pmI would love to see the Democrats STAND, AND TURN their back to bush…..YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
January 30th, 2006 at 10:39 pm[…] Bush’s handlers are figuring there will probably be about 24 minutes of applause in total during Bush’s State of the Union address, as Republicans, Supreme Court Justices and Cabinet members cheer the proposals and initiatives they support. […]
January 30th, 2006 at 10:41 pmPlease . . . I beg you, don’t make us nauseous ahead of time.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:50 pmAh, rhetorical flourishes. Is there anything they can’t do?
Bravo, King George! Power to El Presidente!
…so about the SOTU drinking game. What’s the official rules this time round?
January 30th, 2006 at 10:52 pmA little SOTU pre-issue here:
http://circus-minimus.blogspot.com/
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January 30th, 2006 at 10:58 pmSkip the SOTU, watch this instead and take your spouse out for dinner.
January 30th, 2006 at 10:59 pmAlthough I have to applaud William Rivers for having enough gall to even propose to the Democrats to actually do something for once, I’m not so sure a silent separation from the State of the Union Address is the best idea. Here’s why.
The platform of BushCo will be on full display, gloriously proclaiming it’s nationalistic review of the richness of our country. WAR, ENERGY, TAX CUTS, blah, blah, blah. It’s all a diversion from the BushCo misdeeds. AND THE EYES OF THE NATION WILL ALL BE LOOKING ON.
Walking away from a problem does not solve the problem. The problem still exists, and like far too many people that have already succumbed to this ignorance, to and of the BushCo, the problem will not be solved, let alone addressed.
This is what America will see if the Democrats walk out; Democrats standing, turning, and leaving. America will not see their message, the Democratic readdress on the steps. Although picture perfect in theory, the soundness of the idea lacks an audience.
“Better to be seen than to be heard.”
We see the Democrats every day be silent.
And that is the exact same image that will be reinforced to not only the American public, but to nearly the entire world. BushCo has the Democrats in his sites. And his aim IS to silence the Democrats.
WHY PLAY INTO HIS HAND??
I propose a more radical idea, and yes it is radical. SHOUT, BOO, HISS. Don’t shut up. Be heard. STAND AND YELL, RAISE YOUR ARMS and PROTEST.
Break with the etiquette for once and let BushCo know that he is not correct in his dismissal of Congress’ Constitutional right to craft law. He has all but thumbed his nose at you and you stand silent in the face of the bully. PUSH BACK.
If the Democrats walk out, no one will notice. Sure, there will be a brief mumbling and disturbance, and a pause in BushCo’s address. But do the Democrats actually believe that the national news media will follow them, cameras in tow?
I say, take the fight to the media. The captive audience. CARPE DIEM. The eyes of the nation will be upon you. So will be their ears. Let them see you AND hear your disdain for the BushCo.
Or, do you propose to give them more of the “STATUS QUO”.
Silence?
Max-1
I wrote that as a response to William’s letter.
Remember,
If the Dem’s walk out, the remaining will still apaude.
Ironic, NO???
If the Dem’s stay, we could have 24 minutes of BOOs - HISSS - CRIES - HOLLERING - YELLING
ALL IN THE EYES & EARS OF AMERICA
Odds makers have it 10:1 neither will happen.
January 30th, 2006 at 11:01 pmState of the Union speech of 1941
Don’t be suprised if Bush’s SOTU will be eerily the same.
Propaganda, we must have propaganda.
January 30th, 2006 at 11:02 pmI suspect the 17 democrats-in-name-only, who voted against the fillabuster will applaud the loudest.
January 30th, 2006 at 11:11 pmWhile the REAL Democrats will turn around and walk away from the SOTU, the Repuklicans will be licking Bush’s ass.
ICK!
January 30th, 2006 at 11:15 pmThe 17 or so Democrats who voted for Alito, were dems up for re-election in red states. Red states that voted for Bush in 2004. Therefore these democrats are worried about going against the wishes of Bushco, for fear they will be voted out of office, come November. Like someone said, the 40% of Democrats vote Republican 70% of the time.
January 30th, 2006 at 11:28 pm#23, won’t happen jimbo. If they wouldn’t stick together to take on Alito, then they won’t do jack at the SOTU. Next stop, someone will set fire to the Reichstag.
January 30th, 2006 at 11:29 pm#6, but Darth, did you notice the cold comfort Pitt gave on Abramoff, Iran etc…?
January 30th, 2006 at 11:32 pmCan anyone link me to the 2004 Ohio campaign speech where Bush talks about how important warrants are and how we always get a warrant, even with the Patriot Act? It was on Al Franken this morning. Excellent quote.
Thanks.
January 31st, 2006 at 12:21 amPragmatist - Heck it is at WhiteHouse.Gov
It is better in Audio
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2004/ 04/ 20040420-2.html
Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires — a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we’re talking about chasing down terrorists, we’re talking about getting a court order before we do so. It’s important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.
January 31st, 2006 at 12:30 amComment by Pragmatist
Anything that the BushCo says in public is
conviniently found at the source.
The HOURSES MOUTH
http://www.whitehouse.gov
But a good laugh can be found at
http://www.whitehouse.org
January 31st, 2006 at 12:39 amThanks!
What a maroon.
January 31st, 2006 at 1:08 amThe SOTUAS will create a new stack of lies. The only bright side of the picture is that we have between 380 and 1084 days befor freedom rings.
January 31st, 2006 at 1:14 amPlease post embargoed SOTU text as soon as you have it. We need time to draft our letters to editor so we can just hit send at the end of the speech.
I sent mine last year just after the speech finished - ripping Bush’s attempted raid on Social Security, and got the _same letter_ published in the LA Times and the LA Daily News on consecutive days.
Timing matters folks. These journo types want to finish their copy for the next day’s editorial page and go home. Let’s furnish them the material.
January 31st, 2006 at 1:28 am#32 Pedro
How ’bout this ~
A letter of concern to Congress and the American people.
TO: WE THE PEOPLE
Both you and I are fully aware that what we are witnessing before our country, is possibly the largest power grab that American history will attest to. The volume of books are already into their second printing, and the future of Rove, Rumsfeld, and all of the like, will be dependent on their soon to be Doubleday@ contracts. History will be replete with the testimony of this power grab from the predictions of the perdition in the new American Democracy.
So lets examine their works. The volumes that which they will be speaking of. This power grab of the millennia.
The Art of Deception: A book that can be attributed to being the bible of the RNC.
I have an idea. Possibly so Machiavellian in nature, that the RNC won’t even see it coming, and they might possibly walk away thanking the us.
In the Art of Deception, one learns the power attributed to being capable of manipulating one’s opponents into doing your bidding. Evil indeed, yet almost necessarily so. A taste of their own medicine.
As a whole, the DNC may be fractured and the American public is being sold a bill of goods from the RNC; that Humpty Dumpty can never be but back together again. More fairy tales from the spin masters. So if Humpty Dumpty is broken, then Humpty Dumpty needs the Kings horses and men to do some healing. Pettition your Congress to take their jobs back.
TO: CONGRESS
The president all but has thumbed his nose at Congress as a whole. The Legislative Branch. He has stated, equivocally, that he turned down an invitation by Congress to allow them to assist him in crafting the necessary laws and amendments to the FISA laws back in 2002, and in 2003. And has reinforced his unyielding position to Congress’ Constitutionally mandated job description to be the sole craftsmanship of law for the land.
Rise up Congress. You’re president dismissed you. His words smack of his arrogance. Take back your jobs and legislate.
RNC, DNC, Green Party and Independent. One and all, your president’s nebulous words spoken to the US populace have left more scratching their heads than following in suit. There is something a foot and America’s chagrin needs to be comforted, not ignored and lulled into submission.
Stand up Congress, and take your jobs back. It was our Founders express mandate that there be three EQUAL branches. One not to be more than another.
Executive, Legislative, Judiciary. Three equal branches, that if left unchecked will lead to the corruptive downward spiral of the Democracy that our Founding Fathers created for us.
The president dismissed the necessity to go to the FISA court because of the antiquation of the laws, as he would have you to believe. But that begs the bigger question. Why not let Congress assist the president in the craftsmanship of new FISA laws that ARE inclusive of the 21st century technologies? The absurdity of the president’s response all but begs for a subpoena from the DOJ as his recusal toward any necessity of explanation to his concept and legality rests only in National Security.
Be heard Congress. The silence beset upon the Democratic party that which is parlayed in the media, is infesting the integrity of Democracy its self. RNC, DNC, Green Party and Independent alike. Your president has made clear, that he will resist any attempt at including Congress in the craftsmanship of necessary law to make what he is doing, legal in the eyes of the court.
Something is a foot. And it is trampling upon Congress’ Constitutional job description. It is riping at the integrity of American values. And Congress needs to address the elephant in the room. With pole numbers bottoming out for both the RNC and the DNC members of Congress and a midterm elections at the door step, how can Congress sit there and take this? The lack of voter confidence, and the summarily dismissal by the president, all but shows that Congress needs to rise up and take their jobs back.
Show the voters what integrity looks like. Three equal branches that follow Constitutional law and implore a sense of checks and balances.
Rise up. Stand up. Be heard.
Congress is needed as mandated by WE THE PEOPLE through our Bill of Rights.
Comment by Max-1
January 31st, 2006 at 2:24 amPedro,
You are 100% correct. As the International marketing Manager and Technical Media Manager for a global technology company, I can tell you that you can get what you want printed if you are the first one to provide the “facts.”
Bush is to start his SoTU at 6:00 PST. That is right when I get in my car. It then takes me 30-45 minutes to get home. I will be sending letters to the editor, as soon as the speech is over.
Since Bush has planned a 36 minute speech and 24 minutes of apllause, I should have plenty of time to rip his speech apart.
See everybody tomorrow for the State of the Union debacle.
January 31st, 2006 at 2:33 amThe state of the Union is so bad that Bush has no choice but to pad his speech with 24 minutes of applause.
Good job George. Thanks for giving us a debt massive enough to eclipse Betelgeuse.
And I still can’t believe that the Senate will confirm the judge that Bush selected to legalize his unwarranted [ambiguity intended] wiretapping of U.S. citizens.
If Alito turns out to be as much of a defender of presidential powers as I suspect that he is, then the Senate will have made themselves and the House obsolete.
Morons. All of them.
And do you think that Harriet Myers was just a patsy? That she was nominated because she was incompetent so that once Alito’s name came up, the Administration could just feed everyone the whole, “His qualifications are all that matter” and “We can’t reject a nominee because of his views” nonsense?
Regardless, they took the bait.
It’s called legal interpretation, you idiots, not personal views. And the interpretation of the law is malleable and has changed dramatically over time.
And it’s about to change again.
Into something we had like 40 years ago.
I’m so excited.
January 31st, 2006 at 4:24 amThe state of the union?
In a pool conducted by the military times the, company that printed the Army, Navy Times papers, asked of the military troops the following question;
Today’s military is stretched too thin to be effective
strongly agree ……….26%
agree………………..38%
disagree……………..27%
strongly disagree………3%
on opinion/no answer……7%
Bet ya bubble-boy doesn’t speak on the fact that the soldiers who should know a little bit about this think the military is overstretched and therefore not as able to preform their assigned missions,
instead he’ll probably rail about Iran, but with whose troops since they feel they have too much to do already.
January 31st, 2006 at 4:50 amWatch this speech, before it was edited for the public. Much more honest:
January 31st, 2006 at 5:02 amhttp://www.rmannion.com/political/bushwhacked2.qt
More here:
January 31st, 2006 at 5:03 amhttp://www.rmannion.com/political.php
#6 To “opposition walkouts”: yes, is a common stance in democratic countries, outside the USA. In fact, we had walkouts against Jose Maria Aznar over the involvement in the Iraq war… And to those who thint that booing, hissing and yelling is more efective, think that there are more republicans than democrats, and they can boo too. But, if they do walkouts, they will end in minority for voting purposes.
The problem in the USA, is that everybody thinks that respect is filling the crowd hearing respectfully the SOTU. But USA voters who see the SOTU only see congress full os people and thinks “hey, they are interested, even Democrats, Bush is doing a good job”. Democrats in the SOTU are playing as cardboard public for Bush.
January 31st, 2006 at 5:39 amIf democrats were more like their direspectful republican counterparts and booed throughout the speech, Bush would only have to speak for ten minutes and the state of the union would be a lot better off.
January 31st, 2006 at 6:39 amHe should really talk about how he was handed a surplus and how he is going to leave a deficit, and explain how he spent the trillions he had control over. Now That’s a State of The Union. He is The Squanderer in Chief.
January 31st, 2006 at 7:29 amClinton had 2 years of on-budget surpluses (1999 and 2000) but the debt held by the public was several trillion $s.
January 31st, 2006 at 8:09 amThe 1999 on-budget surplus was very small and in 2000,expenditures increased while individual tax receipts were up $125 billion as people sold stock as the market,NASDAQ particularly, fell sharply.
“We want to lift all incomes and wealth,” said Trent Duffy, a White House spokesman. “We are starting to see that the income gap is largely an education gap.”
“The president thinks we need to close the income gap, and he has talked about ways in which we can do that,” especially through education, Mr. Duffy said.
-NYT, Jan. 29
So, is that why they cut post secondary education by $12 billion dollars in the last budget?
George W. Bush, the Republiscum Party and “conservative/red state” DLC Democrats: Keeping Americans Dumb One Budget Cut at a Time”…
January 31st, 2006 at 8:17 amWhat good would the turning their backs on him do? Another meaningless show. We should be watching an impeachment trial instead of him giving another sotu address. Spineless mofos.
January 31st, 2006 at 8:20 amI wager that we’ll get another shining example of why Bush’s war-mongering, Neo-conservative, Religious fundamentalistic, eavesdropping approach is so dangerous. The man has yet to give a speech that couldn’t equally apply to him and his policies if you’d just replace “Saddam” with “Bush”, “extremists” with “Republicans”, and “Islamic fundamentalists” with “Christian Fundamentalists”. In fact, I watch his speeches to simply gain more ammunition against him. It’s the only way I can watch.
January 31st, 2006 at 8:25 amSince Bush has planned a 36 minute speech and 24 minutes of apllause, I should have plenty of time to rip his speech apart.
See everybody tomorrow for the State of the Union debacle.
Comment by SpudgeBoy — January 31, 2006 @ 2:33 am
Make sure your post your writings here for those of us who don’t live in California to read as well.
January 31st, 2006 at 8:28 amThe fvcking Democrats who voted for cloture need to be voted out. We need to send a message that we don’t support Democrats that support the Republicans.
Comment by SpudgeBoy — January 30, 2006 @ 10:24 pm
At least we now know who to fire in November also. If we could gain some liberal consensus on the Green, Independent or other liberal candidates available, we could really make a bold statement. If Ross Perot could capture 20% of the Presidental vote, and Jesse Ventura be elected Governor, then why can’t we get some other non-partisans in Congress for starters?
We just have to, as liberals, find some unity. Our lack of it in the political arena is going to kill us in November if we don’t find a way to stand united, and be the guardians our founding fathers hoped we would be.
And I’m going to keep saying it from now until 2008 - I like a Gore/Obama ticket.
January 31st, 2006 at 8:32 amI’ll be watchin’, and hopin’, for cheney’s fatal attack to be on live tv.
January 31st, 2006 at 8:33 amSOTU address and Dems; stand, place your hand over your heart, bow your head in sorrow for the State of the Union and turn your backs on the ‘president’.
January 31st, 2006 at 8:35 amI just wonder what they’ll do if they don’t get enough applause, or are they already prestaging that like they do everything else.
Canned applause by the canned congress rubber-stamp machine, how appropriate
January 31st, 2006 at 8:36 amSort of off-topic, but. . .
DINO
Democrats In Name Only
I wish those three who are voting for Alito would just bolt the Party. If they want to be Republicans, then BE Republicans, and stop fucking with us. We’re the ones with integrity.
The more I think about the real damage Alito’s ascension to the Court will do, the worse I feel. And those 3 DINOs will be culpable for decades of future rot.
January 31st, 2006 at 8:37 amWONDER IF THEY’LL HAVE ANY PHONY DEMONSTRATIONS–LIKE THOSE FAT, USELESS CONGRESSMEN HOLDING UP PURPLE FINGERS A YEAR OR TWO AGO.
THOSE GUYS SHOULD BE DUMPED NAKED IN FALLUJA WITH THEIR PURPLE FINGERS NOW. “OK, TOUGH GUYS. HERE’S WHAT YOUR DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE NOW.”
January 31st, 2006 at 8:40 amwishful therapy:
January 31st, 2006 at 8:41 amThink rotten tomatoes, Think rotten tomatoes, Think rotten tomatoes …… Now wing it…………………..feel better.
Any chance they dump buckets of $100’s from the ceiling? That’ll get the pugs applauding. Just make sure it is before or after W takes his usual staged glance up at sour Pickles, so as not to obscure the predetermined “moment”.
January 31st, 2006 at 8:54 amWill there be any time left over for one arm salutes?
January 31st, 2006 at 9:04 amNo word on Alito’s confirmation and Kerry and Kennedy’s disgraceful swift-boating of Sam Alito. Kennedy will go down in history as the Joe McCarthy of the left. Oh - and as a woman killer, too.
January 31st, 2006 at 9:15 amYou guys need to get a life..the applause thing is no different for Bush then for any other president in the past.
January 31st, 2006 at 9:17 amOne thing to keep your eye on during the speech: by custom or whatever, the Supreme Court members do not stand or applaud during the SOTU address. Now that Alito will be confirmed and the Supremes are stacked for Bush, let’s see if they break with that tradition.
January 31st, 2006 at 9:27 amThe Chief Justice Of The United States Supreme Court Said: ‘The Senate Is Surely Under No Obligation To Confirm Any Particular Nominee, But After The Necessary Time For Inquiry It Should Vote Him Up Or Vote Him Down.’ Which Is Exactly What I Would Like.â€
Ted Kennedy, March 2000
“When the Founders wrote the Constitution and gave the Senate the power of advice and consent on Presidential nominations, they never intended the Senate to work against the President, as this Senate is doing, by engaging in a wholesale stall and refusing to act on large numbers of the President’s nominees.â€
Ted Kennedy 1999
“The President And The Senate Do Not Always Agree. But We Should Resolve These Disagreements By Voting On These Nominees – Yes Or No.â€
Ted Kennedy 1998
“Again and again in recent years, the filibuster has been the shame of the Senate and the last resort of special-interest groups. Too often, it has enabled a small minority of the Senate to prevent a strong majority from working its will and serving the public interest.”
January 31st, 2006 at 9:35 amTed Kennedy 1975
I would love to see the Democrats absent themselves from the show tonight. Or, attend and then stand and turn their backs on Bush. But that will not happen. What they could do, is instead of applauding, is put up one hand, palm forward and indicate to Bush “talk to the hand.”
January 31st, 2006 at 9:43 amWhy don’t they ask Congress to hold the applause to the end of the speech? That seems to be the professional and courteous thing to do.
Knowing this Republican party, this administration, and see the trend for years; the talking points, the pre-screening, the orchestrating of events, propaganda, etc., etc., I just feel like it will all be phoney and prearranged to tweak the American public emotions. Ho hum…
January 31st, 2006 at 9:44 amWhile CT has a Republican governor(Jodi Rell who replaced our still incarcirated John Rowland and has a few ethics problems of her own), the state voted Blue for John Kerry. Joe Lieberman is up for re-election in Nov. and has some stiff competition. This vote for cloture may be the ‘nail in Lieberman’s coffin’. We vote for legislators who serve the public interest. Joe’s ties to Bush and Israel are beginning to rankle the Democrats here.
January 31st, 2006 at 9:48 am5 minutes of stuttering
6 minutes of stammering
4 mintes of sputtering and stumbling
2 minutes of drawl
3 minutes of hesitancy
3 minutes of pregnant moment,dead silence and mental lapse
Rounded out by 13 minutes of assorted misreprsentation,lie,half-truth,bravado, empty promises,selective memory, “the used car salesman” and throw in the the vacant smile.
January 31st, 2006 at 9:48 amMitch you left out the drooling.
January 31st, 2006 at 10:17 am#63 Mitch, I can tell:
January 31st, 2006 at 10:27 amYou have watched Bush speeches before! You know what to expect.
nose-picking, too. Please, let’s not forget that!
January 31st, 2006 at 10:44 am#57
Wishful thinking - however I prefer that liberals amuse themselves with topics like the applause factor and leave the business of running the country to Republicans.
January 31st, 2006 at 10:44 amRepublicans running the country… into the ground. Please complete the sentence.
January 31st, 2006 at 10:45 amI’m gonna watch a good movie, piss on the bunch of them and the shrubs they were drug in on….Blessings
January 31st, 2006 at 10:52 am#68
January 31st, 2006 at 11:01 amOk here goes- checkmate. We have both houses and the White House and after today’s vote, one more seat on the SC. As for running the country into the ground, I’m not really sure what you mean - with unemployment at historic lows, inflation in check, another record year for housing, another year without an attack on U.S. soil, I could go on, but I have to run to a meeting. Good luck with your agenda.
Coretta Scott King dies and Judge Nazi Alito is confirmed. Not a good day in the news… And we still get Chimp’s speech on top of it.
Anyone know how to get a work visa in another country?
January 31st, 2006 at 11:43 amrandy! checkmate is easy to bellow when you have the black and white pieces, buddy. while the total number of jobs may have increased, the net number of jobs created is still in decline. the majority leadership has had the unfortunate ability of turning an actual budget surplus into the largest deficit in our country’s history, and healthcare is costing the most to those who are most in need of it. our global political capital and respect has squandered in a matter of months.
this is not progress and this is not leadership. so pardon us if we enjoy a hearty chuckle this evening, because we refuse to accept the current state of our union as the dawn of a new golden age where what we have today is not only good enough, but enough to be applauded.
January 31st, 2006 at 11:57 amYo randy
Job loss or gain by president and party
Roosevelt(D)….+5.3
Johnson(D)……+3.8
Carter(D)…….+3.1
Truman(D)…….+2.5
Clinton(D)……+2.4
Kennedy(D)……+2.3
Nixon(R)……..+2.2
Reagan(R)…….+2.1
Coolidge(R)…..+1.1
Ford(R)………+1.1
Eisenhower(R)…+0.9
Bush41(R)…….+0.6
Bush43(R)…….-0.7
Hoover(R)…….-0.9
The numbers are the percentage of jobs gained or lost against all jobs, yes Bush43 has been good for the economy if you haven’t lost your job.
January 31st, 2006 at 12:10 pmAlthough randy I’ll give you the fact Bush43 hasn’t completed his term so he may still be able to beat Hoovers record. Keep cheerleading him on……
January 31st, 2006 at 12:25 pm…I have to run to a meeting…
Comment by Randy #70
Rancid,
…hopefully with a semi-tractor trailer…
Check your facts and figures on that historically “low unemployment”, and stay tuned to that “no attacks on U.S. soil”…
…Experts on terrorism predict that attack is imminent and inevitable…
…I just hope you’re there if/when it happens…
…You Bushite traitor…
January 31st, 2006 at 12:28 pmWell, got my drinking rules for the SOTU tonight.
http://www.drinkinggame.us/
January 31st, 2006 at 2:07 pmNo, it’s 36 minutes when somebody else reads the speech…
When erm, Bush, unh, I mean, erm, President Bush, ummmm, reads the speech, uh, then, 9/11 eumh, it will take, hehe, an hour.
Z.
January 31st, 2006 at 2:16 pm#70
January 31st, 2006 at 2:35 pmI think the unemployment number is low because people are out of work so long, they are not counted any more - their checks ran out. Tell people who are facing heating bills of hundreds of dollars, and medical fees that have doubled, and insurance premiums that have skyrocketed that inflation is in check. No attack on Americn soil for 4 years — well we didn’t have one in 8 years in the 1990’s. The WTC truck bomb occurrred in early 1993, and the perps were captured and jailed, where they are today. (And THAT president didn’t blame the recently departed president for the incident.)
Hundreds of thousands of people today are either unemployed or underemployed. I don’t think the future looks bright when we cannot compete in the world, when jobs are outsourced, when education is underfunded, when tech skills are imported. I hope you have a productive meeting where you aren’t handed a pink slip of your own.
#60 Comment by Marie
HEIL BUSH
Original Photo.
Morphed Image
And if you liked that…
January 31st, 2006 at 2:40 pm#79 Comment by Marie
That group, the hidden poor, the unaccounted for, the peasents.
I’m a member.
January 31st, 2006 at 2:42 pm#63 Comment by Mitch
You also forgot to add the magic spell,
No not the ‘ole black magic…
“Abra-cadabra, Hocus-Pocus…”
The new black magic of the 21st Century…
“Terrorists, Sadamists, WMD, National Security”
Ohhhhhh
January 31st, 2006 at 2:49 pmAhhhhhh
Aplause
Aplause
#73 Comment by Clif
Gota link?
Where did you get the stats.
Bush just 2/10’s better than Hover, the president that ran the GREAT DEPRESSION.
January 31st, 2006 at 2:55 pmMax-1 i got them from a story i read at
http:/washingtonsyndrome.com,
you have to scroll down a ways,
the info is also available at
http://www.americanassembler.com,
as far as bush he’s trying to outdo hoover because usually nobody gets a lower grade than he does.
January 31st, 2006 at 3:17 pm24 minutes of applause, 36 minutes of BS. Sounds about right(wing).
January 31st, 2006 at 3:21 pm#84 And David Letterman thinks he has the market cornered on the stupid human tricks.
January 31st, 2006 at 3:29 pmResponse to Randy about the state of the union:
http://www.juancole.com/
I would suggest that you are not fully informed of the state of the economy or perhaps you need to call the firefighters for your pants again.
January 31st, 2006 at 3:38 pm#84 Comment by Clif
Kthxbi
January 31st, 2006 at 5:17 pmThanks, Max-1
January 31st, 2006 at 6:59 pmDid anyone record this non-event?
January 31st, 2006 at 10:29 pmI’m off to the Daily Show. Jon has a mass of material on this. Perhaps thr Colbert Report will bring down the House and the Senate as well.
January 31st, 2006 at 10:52 pm