VIDEO: Failure of Social Security Privatization Gets Standing Ovation
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VIDEO: Failure of Social Security Privatization Gets Standing Ovation
When President Bush first launched his campaign to privatize Social Security last year, just 39 percent of Americans approved of how he was handling the issue. A year later, that number has dropped to 35 percent.
The sentiments of the majority of Americans was voiced last night when President Bush brought up his privatization plans. Bush’s statement that “Congress did not act last year on my proposal” was met with rousing, unexpected applause that clearly unnerved Bush. Watch it:
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The Democratic Party’s one and only shining moment last night. It was great to watch.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:42 pmDoes anyone know where the idea of human-animal hybrids came from other than the obvious myths and fictional entertainment? Is someone really trying to do this? Or was it some type of emotional manipulation. I would really like to know if any Right Wingers know about it, I don’t think even crazy Coulter has ever mentioned it in her right to life emotionally charged drama.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:42 pmSaw that last night. Dems grew a pair for a few minutes. Brought a tear my eye…
February 1st, 2006 at 1:44 pm“human-anmial hybrids”
Is someone trying to make talking donkeys, centaurs or pegasi?
February 1st, 2006 at 1:45 pmHuman-animal hybrids. “Are we not MEN?”
February 1st, 2006 at 1:46 pm“Are we not MEN?â€
We are BEVO.
Sorry, had to do it.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:47 pm.
Damn. That was a fine video to watch. Bush all but blew a gasket.
Couldn’t have happened to a finer president.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:48 pmDoes anyone know where the idea of human-animal hybrids came from other than the obvious myths and fictional entertainment? Is someone really trying to do this? Or was it some type of emotional manipulation. I would really like to know if any Right Wingers know about it, I don’t think even crazy Coulter has ever mentioned it in her right to life emotionally charged drama.
This is actually becoming quite commonplace. Mouse/Human embryos are used in research quite often to test drugs and how diseases progress. A mouse with human brain characteristics are better suited to track Alzheimers progression and/or treatment than a just a mouse brain.
The ethical ramifications of hybridizing humans with any other animal is quite disturbing. Where does it stop? When will we see athletes with gorilla genes to increase their strength? Dolphins with human genes to smarten them for military operations… or humans with dolphin genes to help be better Navy SEALS and hold their breath longer?
You laugh but do honestly think “they” will ever be happy with just using mice for Alzheimers testing…
February 1st, 2006 at 1:48 pmGet the video up of nobody applauding when Bush mentioned earmark reform.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:51 pmHere’s an article about a monkey that has been hybridized with human brain cells…
http://www.pbs.org/ newshour/ bb/ science/ july-dec05/ chimera_8-16.html
February 1st, 2006 at 1:51 pmI’m waiting to see the feared Liger (a cross betweeen a lion and tiger, known for its skills in magic)…someone should have told Bush theat Nepolean Dynamite is not real…gosh, what an idiot
February 1st, 2006 at 1:55 pmThe Democratic Party’s one and only shining moment last night. It was great to watch.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
If that’s what you call a shining moment for the Donks then you are even more perverse than I first imagined.
I saw it on a re-run and would say that this sarcastic democrat response over Congress’ failure to address Social Security entitlements (that will one day doom the Union), can only reinforce their image as the Party of sneering disrespect, and hate. This is how The Filthy Left will “confront the great issues before usâ€, and will “act in a spirit of goodwill and respect for one another.â€???
Then entire country (except for me and a few of my global capitalist business associates) saw Hillary for the feckless partisan wretch that she is and right then and there determined that the woman will never set foot in the White House again. The Donks are insane with rage, contempt and envy. 06 and 08 will see the end of the Democratic Party as we know it unless Clinton, Kennedy, Pelosi, Boxer, Dean, Kerry and a host of other “leaders†of the party all commit mass suicide after losing the elections.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:01 pmNothing wrong with chimeras - just because you go “Eewww!” at the idea, doesn’t make it inherently wrong. If there’s any species who’s genes we have a right to diddle with, surely it’s our own?
Of course, human nature being what it is, nobody can be trusted to do this without *extensive* oversight and ethical checks. I’d support doing this for health reasons (i.e you can create a child with a genetic tendency to be healthier and stronger than we are now), but that’d be about all, I think.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:01 pmNice moment, but Bush is right in that the problem is not going away.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:04 pm#8 - Actually, they’re planning on introducing the genes for “honesty” and “integrity” back into the Reppublican party.
I think they’re also experimenting with adding “ethics”, “fiscal responsibility” and “taking responsibility for your actions” back into the Republicans.
Because it’s been so long since the ‘Phants have expressed these traits, the scientists are not expecting much in the way of success. I believe it was the Abramoff like sick-o-phants who were instrumental in removing the above listed traits from the Phant gene pool.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:08 pmWell, IRI, if anyone’s a hate specialist, it’s you. By the way, did you notice John McCain’s sarcastic applause when Bush mentioned earmarks? Gee, you must really hate McCain, too.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:09 pmDoes ANTONE really give a damn about I-Wrong???
I mean a coward and spineless person that he is, along with the biased and racist posture only leads me to believe that he/she/it is just as dillusional as BUSH…
Oh well, I am glad that BUSH got b*tch slapped on national TV…But, I am equally impressed that many DEMS are now fighting instead of waiting for the winds to blow them in the right direction…
50,000 soldiers READY to leave this illegal war and BUSH imposes indefinite indentured servitude to MAKE them stay…Highest number of consciencious objectors, AWOL, and DESERTION rates in history!!! And someone said it was an ALL VOLUNTEER Army???
What an IDIOT!!!
February 1st, 2006 at 2:10 pmDayum, meant ANYONE!
February 1st, 2006 at 2:11 pmYes, bush is right. But congress and the administration, in order to deal with it, have to admit they are the main source of the problem. SSI income has exceeded expenses for many, many years. Yet, congress and presidents eagerly spent it, with the promise to “replace it.” Okay, it’s time to replace it rather than eliminating or reducing promised benefits. This has never been a complex problem, just a problem of selfishness by the elected folks who spend our money on our behalf.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:12 pm#16 - Don’t listen to the invective that “Right between the I’s” spews. He’s been given his talking points by his neo-con leaders, and anyone who dares to correct his world view must be wrong.
It’s very comforting to the trolls to be able to parrot a talking point and not have to engage the brain cells. It also makes “Ditto!” much easer to roll of the tongue without requiring a side-trip to thought or reason.
Eventually, their rose colored glasses will fog up from the amount of hot air the Phants are blowing, and they’ll either run head long into the storm of reason or eventually fall over the edge of the cliff that awaits all lemmings.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:15 pmyes, the Dems showed their sacks for a bit, there… certainly was a nice counterpoint to the Republicants’ insane cheering about permanent tax cuts… it just takes the mention of money to get them excited…
February 1st, 2006 at 2:15 pmDon’t worry, Democrat Soldier, IRI and I have debated, usually fairly civilly, often. I’m through with him/it for now.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:17 pm#14 his solution was like most other reforms of large government programs not a solution but a vehicle to benefit a wealthy group of bush constituents, not the American public. Privatising social security does wall street and the investment mangers good, a steady flow of cash, no linger have to worry about having the flow slowed during a downturn because there can’t be a downturn if the working public must put money in the stock market. There is still the problem of stagnation which will hurt the investor who doesn’t earn any profit but still pays the fees to the portfolio manager’s. Kinda like the stock market of late, And with the likes of tyco, enron, worldcom, not to mention the airline industry and GM’s possible bankrupcy the stock market is not the safest place to put money if you do not have any way to make up the losses. There are better ways to resolve the problems than to gut the core and push people into a system that is not a true insurance or retirement policy.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:18 pmIrighti you cut and pasted that post from one of the earlier threads. Lazy bastard! Do you want me to cut and past all the lambasting you got on that thread too?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:18 pmBackOnTopic:
If the Dems were able to stand togethere last night and agree-
why not a platform they can all agree with and have the balls to carry it out like a political party!
Cut the ties to corporations and represent the people,
not communism,
but capitilism,
with corporations having NO POWER!!!
then any business can succeed not just the Good Ole Boys
…if there are dems who are against the platform,
February 1st, 2006 at 2:28 pmboot ‘em out
…everyone has their own opinions and beliefs, but in this two party system we need a common cause to stand up for…its like cowboys & indians, one or the other, and its time the indians stood up and took control!!!
Actually, did I miss it, or did Bush not actually offer *a proposal* on SS?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:28 pm#25 - You’re right, it seemed to be a secret plan.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:30 pmThey actually included it in the official transcript.
Surprising…
February 1st, 2006 at 2:32 pmJane #21, like you, I also have debated with IRI, one redneck winger to another. As a half-baked conservative dipstick myself, I rather enjoy his blasts.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but do you think junior had IRI in mind when he was talking about needing to shut down the human/animal cloning experiments. I’m thinking of an I-RIGHT-I/baboon kind of thing. How about you?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:32 pmThis will make for a great ad to attack Democrats as thoughtless partisans interested only in opposing President Bush. The American people want a solution - do liberals have one? No. That will bring more defeat at the polls.
Special thanks to Cindy Sheehan for exposing you all as the treasonous scum you really are.
Anyone catch Justice Alito in his robe? lol!
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February 1st, 2006 at 2:34 pmThe Social Security issue was resolved in the 70s when taxes were raised to keep it solvent. Unfortunately, it’s always been promoted as part of the general budget revenue by administrations of both parties, because things look rosier that way.
That’s fine if you’re running a surplus, as we were when this assclown took office. When he raided the treasury after he was “elected”, it was a redistribution of of much of that tax money - the lion’s share paid by working people - from the poor and middle-class, to the rich.
You could look it up.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:34 pmI can’t watch this video. I’d like to, but all I get is a big fat question mark with quick time.
Can I actually download this video? Is it available for windows media? How can I see this thing? Is it a bandwith issue?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:35 pmThe biggest entitlement isnt Medicaid,Medicare,Welfare,food stamps…Its the drain on the Taxpayer for supporting the president ,vpresident,cabinets,congress,senate. That is the biggest drain on Taxpayers. Lets cut W salary to o.oo since he has free housing including private chefs. Life time pension,medical,dental need I say more and I’m sick of supporting these Facists.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:37 pmThe purpose of social security reform is to prop up the stock market so savvy investors can sell and get out.
who actually believes the market will retain value once the boomers start cashing out their pension, mutual funds and 401Ks?
Once the great cashout begins, the Plunge Protection Team won’t be able to keep up the loud gush of money leaving the system. The market will collapse to virtually nothing, leaving all of those retired investors broke.
The far right knows this is a racket and they want theirs, while there is still seomthing to loot. Privatizing Social Security will create a stock market bubble that will make a number of savvy investors very wealthy. All they have to do is sell everything before the bubble deflates.
Social Security as we know it is doomed and privatized social security is doomed also. It’s just another way for institutions to steal the funds you think are going toward retirement.
Best savings plan you can have is to pay off your house and bring your bills to a minimum. Anything beyond that is gambling with a losing hand.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:37 pm“The Donks are insane with rage, contempt and envy.”
Sounds like the Republican party, circa 1998. Worked out okay for you guys. I think the “Donks” need MORE rage and contempt, not less. I’m gonna start by voicing my contempt for you.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:39 pmjudge eloto was the stone man in black
judge roberts was the head jerking in saying my massa i will do you bidding as your boy judge.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:39 pmhehe, how funny is the guy who describes the Democrats as the Filthy Left and decries them for their hate?
I am so delighted trailer trash like this guy are offended by the Democrats.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:39 pmInnocent Lite #30: Your mama.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only scum around here is on your teeth, dick breath.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:40 pmGood one, Joe! Actually, I think IRI is the 4-assed monkey on South Park.
Where’ve ya been, Joe, we’ve missed your “correct me if I’m wrong” lines? Good to hear from you again.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:41 pmThanks scat on the explanation.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:41 pmcan only reinforce their image as the Party of sneering disrespect, and hate. This is how The Filthy Left
Oh, the irony. Too bad conservatives aren’t wired for it.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:42 pmAs I recall, about 80% of Americans remained seated back when Bush was pushing for SS privatization.
It didn’t die because Congress refused to act. It died because no one wanted it.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:43 pmYou really want a one-party country IRI?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:44 pmUsually when people do this in a Bush speech, he has them arrested.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:44 pmBush getting rolled on Social Security was clearly one of the “Top 10 State of the Union Highlights.”
February 1st, 2006 at 2:44 pmThis will make for a great ad to attack Democrats as thoughtless partisans interested only in opposing President Bush. The American people want a solution - do liberals have one?
First we have to agree on the problem, chuckles.
Then any proposed solutions have to be examined to see if they actually do anything to make the situation better. Bush’s, of course, only makes it worse.
No. That will bring more defeat at the polls.
Another right-winger pretending that the 2004 elections weren’t stolen.
Special thanks to Cindy Sheehan for exposing you all as the treasonous scum you really are.
It isn’t treason to point out the troops who are dying in Bush’s little crusade.
Anyone catch Justice Alito in his robe? lol!
Whatever turns you on.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:48 pmMNPundit: Go to Apple and download QuickTime.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:50 pmWell, Jane, I been hanging out, mostly. Sopping up the brew down at the bar and trying to smooch up on a few of the ugly scuzzies down there.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but with Bush’s polls in the tank, the country going to hell, and an impending democratic takeover in November if the “donks” play their cards right, I was as scarce as the other demoralized trolls around here. Junior’s speech has heartened me again, however, along with IRI, mighty aphrodite, and the others. So here I am helping them out with the real facts and backing up their attacks on you lefties.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:51 pmI don’t understand why celebrating the lack of progress on SS seems to tickle TP’s fancy. Are you guys rooting for the SS system to implode? Because that’s what’s going to happen if nothing is done.
And don’t think that raising taxes is going to fly as a solution.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:53 pmYes it was nice to see the Dems do something as one yesterday. My disappoint is that they only can seem to do it when they know the whole country is watching. I mean if you can’t come together as a party to prevent a man such as Alito from becoming a SCJ then a little clapping in unison on National TV means about as much to me as promise unfullfilled and that is to properly represent the people that have elected them.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:54 pm#50 - How many times in the past has SS paied out more than it’s taken in? (Hint: more than 10 times)
Don’t forget, when SS starts to pay out more than it takes in, it’ll be taking in about 80 cents for every dollar that is paid out. Currently, our federal budget takes in about 60 cents for every dollar it pays out. So, in 2030, SS will be on a better financial foundation than our current federal budget. Pardon me for not crying a river over your alarmist attitude.
Also, with the number of people that Pres. Bush plans on getting killed over the next few wars, we won’t have to worry about SS going under any time soon.
How about we reduce the bloated Federal Budget before we start to dismantle Social Security, huh? Too much to ask from the so-called “fiscally conservative” Republicans in charge of the massive federal budget, huh???
February 1st, 2006 at 2:58 pmThere’s nothing wrong with Social Security and hasn’t been since Reagan’s Congress fixed it by raising the tax rate in ‘83. The problem is with Medicare and the continual rise in health care costs.The Part D legislation was vote pandering at its worst and will contribute more over time to the potential bankruptcy of the nation than Social Security ever will.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:01 pmThe use of SS money as part of the general treasury by itself is not a problem,though.It’s the fact that spending has gotten out of control.GWB has the highest growth in spending of any president (including LBJ) and the greatest growth in government ever.
The economy has grown because Keynes was correct,deficit spending can drive economic growth,just not the sort of sustainable growth one would prefer.
I do personally like the tax cuts,though.Very nice.
Anybody see CBS’s John Roberts’ ridiculous take on the Dems standing O for failing to “reform” SS?
Instead of what any normal person would have said about the Dems witty and spirited interuption, he instead said that Bush was successful in baiting the Dems to applaud…
Oh really, John? That’s how you saw it?
Hope you like your new gig at CNN:
February 1st, 2006 at 3:03 pmhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11128678/
Well, IRI, if anyone’s a hate specialist, it’s you. By the way, did you notice John McCain’s sarcastic applause when Bush mentioned earmarks? Gee, you must really hate McCain, too.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
I don’t like McCain’s face.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:10 pmDoes ANTONE really give a damn about I-Wrong???
Comment by IraqVet
You still here pretending to be a soldier?
February 1st, 2006 at 3:11 pmDon’t worry, Democrat Soldier, IRI and I have debated, usually fairly civilly, often. I’m through with him/it for now.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Hi Jane. When are you leaving that loser husband of yours?
February 1st, 2006 at 3:13 pmI’m thinking of an I-RIGHT-I/baboon kind of thing. How about you?
Comment by Joe Sixpack
My last girlfriend said I must have some Black in me. Does that count?
February 1st, 2006 at 3:14 pmThe Democratic Party’s one and only shining moment last night. It was great to watch.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — February 1, 2006 @ 1:42 pm
I think that was the only part of his entire speech that I enjoyed :). The rest of the time I just kept calling him a liar, and the Dems pathetic…
February 1st, 2006 at 3:22 pmPZ Myers over at Pharyngula has deciphered the “man-animal” comment as Bush’s speaking in code to his Fundie base, and hoping that we don’t figure it out. Just as he used “Dred Scott” as code for “I will outlaw abortion or at least make it difficult to legally obtain”, the “man-animal” business is about banning stem cell and other kinds of genetic research.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:22 pm#58 - “Right between the I’s”, I guess it depends on if you hollered or sighed when you has some Black in you.
My pardon, I guess when people start bringing up sexual references in humor, I think about how much Government in general screws Americans, and how much Pres. Bush in specific has screwed the American public.
Don’t worry, “Right between the I’sâ€, I won’t tell your girlfriend that you had some Black in you. I’m sure that Lewis Black wasn’t proud of that moment either.
(Tongue in cheek.)
Back on topic: when Pres. Bush suggested his social experiment of “private accounts†to ‘fix’ Social Security, I’m sure it was a wet dream to the stock market to get their hands on the fees for handling all that money. While it sounded good in theory, they never once talked about what would happen if your investments should fail and you loose the money. They also conveniently didn’t talk much about how much they’d tax the proceeds if you’re investments panned out. How convenient for them!
February 1st, 2006 at 3:23 pmTaking the income cap off of social security will fix it.
But that would inconvience the ultra rich, so it won’t happen.
As the purpose of government is to take money from the poor and give it to the wealthy, such a notion won’t fly in Congress.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:24 pm# 58
Stop insulting black people.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:24 pmTake your butt plug out IRI, I’m home. It’s your 10″ Chippy. Naughty rightwing boy!
February 1st, 2006 at 3:26 pmI wonder why Democrats couldn’t block Alito when Bush’s approval rating is just 39%? That should worry the left.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:26 pmBush and his Republican cronies want to privatize Social Security so his brokerage-firm buddies can make big bucks off of it. However, as has been the case in every single pension privatization worldwide, the overhead costs under privatization are much greater than those under the old government programs, and definitely greater than that of the US’ Social Security. Right now, the UK’s pension program has 14% of its funds eaten up in overhead costs; Social Security, by contrast, has overhead costs of around 1%, if not less.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:27 pmAnd, IRI, don’t bother trying to insult Wayne, either. You know as well as I do (and as everyone here does) that he can “run rings around you logically” (that’s for you Python fans!)
February 1st, 2006 at 3:28 pmMy last girlfriend said I must have some Black in me. Does that count?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 3:14 pm
There’s a class they teach in high school called ESOL (English for Speakers of other languages). There are four students in the fourth period class who are ethnic (two Mexican, one Filipino and one Africa). Not only were all four of these kids born here, but so were all of their parents and two of the kids grandparents. They each speak English with no accent and are all doing well in school.
Their teacher, however was born in French and speaks English as her second language. She is teaching ESOL to second and third generation Americans. Tell me that the racism in this country doesn’t run as deep as IRI portrays…
You have the exact same type of DNA as every other person in the world. Why you judge people for their skin color is really assinine. Grow up.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:28 pm#62 - Sounds like Republican logic: give tax breaks to the rich people who don’t need them and cut funding of programs for the poor who depend on them.
I guess Pres. Bush and his sick-o-pahnts don’t care or think about the “lower 99%†of Americans. If we aren’t cleaning up the trash (from the bins in his house, or his legislative agenda nightmares, or his ‘foreign policy’ of ‘war for oil/profit’) then the average American citizen doesn’t enter his thoughts at all.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:28 pmWell, as for junior’s speech last night, I think the two new supreme court justices pretty well got their marching orders: from abortion to cloning.
Correct me if I’m wrong, unbelievable, but the part I liked the best was when he called on the congress to not be so bitterly divided by offering an olive branch, then turning right around and attacking the dems for judging in “hindsight” and “second-guessing” the Iraqi War.
Oh, and the white dress Laura had on. I guessed yesterday that she’d be wearing white panties and it stands to reason, she would have had on matching panties.
I feel very vindicated.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:29 pmPlease excuse my typos… France not French, etc.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:30 pmJoe,
You’re a bit pre-occupied with panties :)
Good point. I have to admit I changed the channle a couple of times trying to catch teh weather, so I missed that one. But, thanks for the recap. The hypocracy of the neocons is certainly appalling. Well to us liberals, I’m sure you conservatives just ignore it :)
February 1st, 2006 at 3:34 pmUnbelievable #70, in all fairness to I-RIGHT-I’s remark about being half black—-I doubt it was about racism this time.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but as a rightwing, conservative redneck dipstick myself, I know what he was referring to and it ain’t DNA. It has the size of his—–feet—–if you know what I mean.
(That’s the way us real men brag about ourselves).
February 1st, 2006 at 3:35 pmI-right-i….was she one of the new blow up babes that you put batteries in?
Oh now you are high class. But didn’t you get tired of her repeating the same 20 things over & over & over?
February 1st, 2006 at 3:36 pmAnd I-R-I’s true character starts showing. Racist trash.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pm#73 - You’re correct, but I just coudn’t resist from making the comments about him having “some black in him”.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:38 pmIt has the size of his—–feet—–if you know what I mean.
(That’s the way us real men brag about ourselves).
Comment by Joe Sixpack — February 1, 2006 @ 3:35 pm
Well, you know what they say Joe, men who are obsessed with guns are just trying to make up for a deficiency…
But the remark was still a stereo-type and it falls into the general catagory of racism when spoken by IRI. But I get your need to defend your fellow neocons and all…
February 1st, 2006 at 3:39 pm“My last girlfriend said I must have some Black in me. Does that count?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 3:14 pm
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She just meant your were probably sodomized by a black man. Were you walking strangely at the time? Is this the root of your bitterness? Because, you know, interacial dating AND homosexuality are a lot more accepted than they used to be. Might as well come out of both closets at once.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:41 pmWeasel dog(?),how much money do you estimate would be raised by removing the wage cap? If you don’t know how to estimate that #,then you don’t know if that would “fix” the problem. While I don’t think SS is the problem,Medicare most definitely is and no amount of juggling payroll deductions will fix it.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:43 pm#78 - real intelligent debate.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:51 pmHey, at least the Democrats let heir shrub know we have more power than you think..
Now about the cloning thing……… Jake the Alligator Man is proof that they have already gone too far.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:53 pmHybrid cars for hybrid people!
February 1st, 2006 at 4:00 pmYour evil, twisted, dried up, little heart doesn’t count.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pmBush is so scripted and rehearsed that any diversion from the script befuddles him. What a fool, but perhaps he really is the leader of this foolish nation that elected him (maybe). I’m glad I am as old as I am and have cancer which just might take me out of this mess.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pmWe have absolutely no reason to “debate” with the likes of you or I-RIGHT-I. That is not why you or he comes here. So, go screw yourself.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:05 pm#82, Hans Moleman(if that is your real name-d’oh!), would that make them Volkswagens, translated, “people-cars”?
February 1st, 2006 at 4:07 pm[…] Apparently, the Dems did have one good moment, but the video seems overloaded so I haven’t watched it. […]
February 1st, 2006 at 4:09 pm#80 - And here I thought that you were on the same side as “Right between the I’s”.
I find it interesting that you deride him for his sophomoric comments about his sexual prowess (or lack thereof). Have you decided to open your mind as well as your philosophy, now that TP has given you a less-than biased perspective of the world?
February 1st, 2006 at 4:16 pmEntitlements won’t be a problem for another 40 years and at that time, the shortfall is only going to be a few billion (which is chump change for a government program of this scale). It can be taken care of relatively easily in a number of ways without privatizing, which is risky at best. My father, who is a conservative economist who has studied the social security system in great detail, thinks that Bush’s “answer” would create far more problems within the system than it would help solve. I trust him much more than I do a president who has a problem understanding how the system was designed to work in the first place.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:18 pm#86 wouldn’t it be a Volksbestiewagen?
The President left out so many details in his speech. Would these human-animal hybrids have special powers? Would they be shunned by society, forced to live underground and solve crimes, led by a mad scientist in a hoverchair?
In related news, Michael Chriton is appointed to direct all federal science research. Newly appointed scientists with huge grants predict dinosaurs will roam small islands off Costa Rica. In liberal California, a gang of dred-locked eco-terrorists have been arrested for engineering Hurricane Katrina as part of their mad plot to advance radical environmentalism. And if you see a super-intelligent gorilla, don’t make eye contact.
Also, instead of evolving like we thought we did, it turns out God did it.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:22 pmbill,as to Social Security,you (and your father)are correct. If you mean to include Medicare in that statement,you need to revisit his analysis. Medicare is a huge problem and by 2050 will require more than the government currently collects as a % of GDP.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:23 pmWe have absolutely no reason to “debate†with the likes of you or I-RIGHT-I. That is not why you or he comes here. So, go screw yourself.
Not to mention that when we do bother to point out the rather gaping flaws in their arguments, we tend to get ignored.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:26 pm#80 -The fact you could even consider that debate shows the total lack of comprehension we expect from republicans. I mean, where does the premise “My GF says I must have a little black in me” go in debate? Are you an idiot?
That was simply insult and provocation. Among friends, it would just be a nice smackdown, but believe me, that’s not how it was intended.
Debating IRI is a pointless activity - he has no facts, refuses to accept facts, has no informed opinion, and is incapable of appreciating informed opinion. Why bother? He’s the net equivalent of one of those guys sitting in a dunking tank. He was made to be humilated, and he’s too stupid to realize how humiliating his situation is anyways, so might as well lob a few fastballs for the kicks.
Sadly, this describes most conservative bloggers and punditry. Pretending they are worthy of debate may be nice practice for serious discussions later, but just mocking them is ultimately more fun and helps reduce whatever air of legitmacy they claim for themselves.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:27 pmCorrect me if I’m wrong, but as a rightwing, conservative redneck dipstick myself, I know what he was referring to and it ain’t DNA. It has the size of his—–feet—–if you know what I mean.
(That’s the way us real men brag about ourselves).
Comment by Joe Sixpack
Did you ever notice that the real hard core Leftist are totally devoid of sense of humor?
I look forward to the day when I get to shoot the first SOB that tries to arrest me for telling a Sambo joke, or a Polish joke or an Irish joke or another damn thing I want to tell that offends someone’s tender sensibilities. Really, if you peckerwoods get your way that might not be too far off.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:30 pmPerhaps MediCare wouldn’t be as big a problem if the Republicans had let the federal government negotiate with the pharmaceuticals for lower prices on prescription drugs, like they do in other countries and government agencies. But Billy Tauzin (sp?) wanted to give his new future employers (Pharma) something to be thankful for. So he got the billed passed, then immediately left Congress to go work for them.
MediCare would also be in better shape if there weren’t so many people in the health care industry who were only in it for the money.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:32 pm“Did you ever notice that the real hard core Leftist are totally devoid of sense of humor?
I look forward to the day when I get to shoot the first SOB that tries to arrest me for telling a Sambo joke, or a Polish joke or an Irish joke or another damn thing I want to tell that offends someone’s tender sensibilities. Really, if you peckerwoods get your way that might not be too far off.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:30 pm “
Oh sweetie, partisans of all ilks are devoid of humor, that’s why you say such silly things and ‘think’ they’re funny - whe clearly they aren’t. It’s why O’Reilly isn’t funny, and Colbert is funny. Partisans such as yourself always ‘believe’ you’re funny, just as you believe donkeys can’t talk. But both are a myth pumpkin.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:33 pmDebating IRI is a pointless activity - he has no facts, refuses to accept facts, has no informed opinionComment by [snip leftistfucktard blabbering]
Mysticdog
Translation: He kicked my ass once and I’ve never gotten over it.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:34 pmThe republican partisan social security ’scam’ wasn’t designed to protect american retirement, it was designed to steal more money from the federal government by partisan corruption.
Compare that to the work that Reagan did, where he actually let both parties pick their own representative, and a reasonable and non-partisan solution was produced. As much as Reagan was unreasonable at times, at least with Social Security - he put america before his partisan agenda. That’s what a real leader does - too bad we don’t have one currently.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:36 pmOh sweetie, partisans of all ilks are devoid of humor, that’s why you say such silly things and ‘think’ they’re funny - whe clearly they aren’t. It’s why O’Reilly isn’t funny, and Colbert is funny. Partisans such as yourself always ‘believe’ you’re funny, just as you believe donkeys can’t talk. But both are a myth pumpkin.
Comment by RightPunch
I thought you supposed to be a guy? And just because YOU don’t find my little quips funny doesn’t mean I should not entertain myself. After all, it is about me, right?
February 1st, 2006 at 4:38 pm#1 Wayne
February 1st, 2006 at 4:38 pmI agree - it was the high spot of the evening.
In addition, the fool praised Coretta King, even though he opposes everything her husband stood for.
He hardly mentioned the state of the union, which includes the Gulf states - three months after he promised them under the eerie, portable blue lights that he would do everything he can. Well when I think of it maybe he is keeping his promise, it’s just that he is entirely completely incompetent, ignorant and useless.
“Translation: He kicked my ass once and I’ve never gotten over it.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:34 pm”
Oh sweetie, just because you win a game on the XBox, doesn’t mean the real world sees you as a winner. Keep up the partisan fantasy - and how’s Balaam these days doing anyway?
I forgive you for your attack on Misticdog, I’m sure didn’t mean to lie, smear and level baseless accusation - we’ll just blame it on the partisan brain and forgive you - ok pumpkin?
February 1st, 2006 at 4:38 pmDid you ever notice that the real hard core Leftist are totally devoid of sense of humor?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:30 pm
Uh, hello? Have you ever heard of Comedy Central? The Daily Show? The Colbert Report? We are the only ones with a sense of humor. Laughing at the expense of those who have suffered for the thing you mock is just not funny. And you know it.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:40 pm“I thought you supposed to be a guy? And just because YOU don’t find my little quips funny doesn’t mean I should not entertain myself. After all, it is about me, right?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:38 pm”
Absolutely pumpkin, as a partisan your world is definitely about you, as are your efforts to entertain yourself. I won’t disagree with that. But it doesn’t make you ‘funny’, or a good judge of ‘funny’ pumpkin just because you laugh at yourself ;) And when people laugh at you dear, it doesn’t always mean your funny either, sometimes laughter comes from embarrassment at the expense of others.
But if you like to entertain yourself by pretending you’re funny, or pretending that you’re debating, or even by pretending that you’re reasoning - you just help yourself. Stopping a partisan brain during mid-fantasy is clearly not a very practical solution.
But I forgive you for all of your fear, hatred, anger and failures at humor. You’re clearly doing the best you can with that big brain of yours in its power saving mode. You might try a hardware upgrade sometime and see if you can get it run full speed - it might be fun to see what churns out :)
February 1st, 2006 at 4:41 pmI-R-I, You either paid the girl to say it, and they will say it-its not the oldest profession for nothing - or she referred to how you can shit without sitting!!
Get back into your over-priced jeep liberty and go down another block and buy another compliment…or maybe with all this stress go geta massage
February 1st, 2006 at 4:42 pmBut both are a myth pumpkin.
Comment by RightPunch — February 1, 2006 @ 4:33 pm
Don’t forget to include his pursuit of the mythical Perfect Woman either (not like he offers perfection to attract such a thing did it exist).
February 1st, 2006 at 4:42 pm#100 Marie,
February 1st, 2006 at 4:43 pmYou may be right on that reasoning. (”I didn’t lie, you see? I said I’d do everything I can. But I wasn’t lying, because I can’t do anything right! Yes, you, next question.”)
unbelievable,
The rightwing think Limbaugh, O’Reilly and that poor chump from Saturday night live - that I think got cancelled? - are all funny. What passes for humor in the partisan brain is really amusing to me. That’s the really funny part :)
February 1st, 2006 at 4:43 pmAfter all, it is about me, right?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
How’s that working for ya on the social scene? Hmmm…? Didn’t think so.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:45 pm“Don’t forget to include his pursuit of the mythical Perfect Woman either (not like he offers perfection to attract such a thing did it exist).
Comment by unbelievable — February 1, 2006 @ 4:42 pm”
Yeah, I’ve heard that the current plastic ones wear out too fast ;)
February 1st, 2006 at 4:48 pmMuch as Wayne and I would love to continue this, we have to go pick up one of our cars at the shop. See you tomorrow!
February 1st, 2006 at 4:50 pmDoes anyone know where the idea of human-animal hybrids came from other than the obvious myths and fictional entertainment? Is someone really trying to do this? Or was it some type of emotional manipulation?
Human/animal hybrid cell lines have been in existence for decades (IIRC mouse-human hybrids was one of the first). These are hardly “stem cells”, much less capable of growing into any chimerical beastie on their own. So, yes, it’s pandering to the red-meat base. But either profoundly dishonest or monumentally iggnerant (let’s not leave out the possibility of both).
Such hybrid lines are the staple of lots of basic biochemical and genetic work. They’re “immortalized” cell lines, and never grow to be anything other than more single cells, much like the workhorse HeLa cell line (one of the first and most famous such cell lines derived from a cancer in patient “Helen Lane”). They’re unregulated, unorganized single-cell clutures, and the nearest thing they’d be to being “human” would be to be a human cancer; hardly something deserving of the sanctity of life, unless you’re such a fundy nutzoid that you think that teratomas with “hair” and “teeth” (look up “teratoma” for more) are worthy of “Constitutional protection” even if they disable or kill the host patient….
In short, it’s a freakin’ unscientific crock put in to appeal to the Luddite/fundy crowd. Let them all die horrible and painful deaths from preventable and treatable cancer, I say … they deserve to walk the walk if they’re going to give such jive talk.
FWIW, there are actual “chimeric” creatures that have been produced with cells from different species, but in such cases, each cell is not a hybrid, but rather derived from one or the other. But this is more like heterografts than it is any real “new” creature; even if there were offspring (not particularly likely), they’d be one species or the other.
For an example of someone who probably should know better, but who confuses chimeras with hybrids, see here.
Here’s one of the wackier loons out there, and you can see where the objections to this research are coming from. Sadly enough, even such as Nicholas Wade (formerly of Science magazine, now presumably making big bicks from the NYT) offered up this nonsense>/a>:
Not likely to happen unless you’re of the strange opinion that lots of unsanctioned reproductive activities takes place after dark in labs, and even if it did, there’s not a chance in hell that any such zygote would last even a couple of days (assuming that a pregancy is even possible, which is actually rather doubtful as well.
Cheers,
February 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pmThe rightwing think Limbaugh, O’Reilly and that poor chump from Saturday night live - that I think got cancelled? - are all funny. What passes for humor in the partisan brain is really amusing to me. That’s the really funny part :)
Comment by RightPunch — February 1, 2006 @ 4:43 pm
Yeah, he reminds me of this guy I met in college who moved, many years a later, to Tex-ass with his family and suddenly became religious and a bigot. The last time we spoke, he’d sent me a barrage of ‘towel-head’ jokes at the onset of the Iraq Invasion. When I asked him to remove me from that disribution because I found them offensive, he told me I had no sense of humor. I explained humor to him, and well, that was pretty much that. They only laugh at someone else’s expense. And yet are the first ones crying when someone laughs at them…
February 1st, 2006 at 4:53 pmYeah, I’ve heard that the current plastic ones wear out too fast ;)
Comment by RightPunch — February 1, 2006 @ 4:48 pm
Scary visual…. thanks RightPunch ;)
February 1st, 2006 at 4:54 pmTHE TRUTH CAN NOW BE TOLD:
I-RIGHT-I IS A HUMAN-ANIMAL HYBRID.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:55 pmThey only laugh at someone else’s expense. And yet are the first ones crying when someone laughs at them…
Comment by unbelievable
We can laugh at ourselves which is something unheard of in leftist circles. Of course if YOU laugh at us we’ll break your arm. That’s why we win and why we’re better than you. USA! USA!
February 1st, 2006 at 4:59 pmThe social security problem is a small one compared to other issues that Bush is willing to throw money at. The war in Iraq is going to cost trillions. The upcoming war in Iran is going to cost more.
Once the boomers retire en-masse, the stock market will be drained and the US Economy as a whole will go in the toilet.
Diverting Social Security payments into the stock market isn’t a fix. It’s a way to kill Social Security. It’s simply another way to cover up the actions of the Plunge Protection Team.
The Us Government will pay for Social Security the way it’s paying for everything, it will just deficit spend moeny it doesn’t have. If you look at government finance as a whole, the way you’re looking at social Security, you’ll declare the whole shebang as broken, and in need of fixing.
Our Congress has been stealing money out of Social Security for decades and making it up by printing new monies. Why stop now? Converting Social security into a stock market gambling scheme, won’t change anything of note.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pmTake a look at this site to see the US Debt.
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm
Social Security is currently funded out of deficit spending, why should we freak out over a few billion more when the debt is rising with each administration by the trillions?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:10 pmGet back into your over-priced jeep liberty and go down another block and buy another compliment…or maybe with all this stress go geta massage
Comment by Troll-Buster
The massage sounds like a good idea. I know this little chink place….Oh, not a Liberty. It’s one of those big big 4 door 4X4s with all the bells and whistles that Bush was bitching about last night. You know the ones that get about 10mpg and take up two handicap parking spaces at a time. You know the ones? Loser.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:18 pm#115 - Poor little “Right bwetween the I’s” is channeling his ‘masculine’ side. Is this before or after you get some ‘black in you’?? Ha ha!
We don’t need to laugh at ourselves as long as we have partisans like yourself. You and your kind provide more material to laugh at than Pres. Bush provides us, with his pathetic attempts at destroying Social Security!
Why don’t you take some of that rage you have bottled up inside you and go enlist so you can release it on America’s enemies? Could it be because you know we’re only attacking the Iraqi citizens so we can hijack their oil?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:19 pmI just watched the clip and it brought tears to my eyes. With all the power and lies on one side, still we Democrats fight on. You could see Bush wasn’t happy about his audiences expression of delight at one of his failures.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:20 pmYeah, I caught that, too as I was live-blogging it. They forced Bush to start sounding shrill. When is this brain-dead assclown going to realize that SS privatization is DOA, as is the rest of his lame duck agenda?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:21 pmWe can laugh at ourselves which is something unheard of in leftist circles. Of course if YOU laugh at us we’ll break your arm. That’s why we win and why we’re better than you. USA! USA!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:59 pm
No, you cannot. You only make fun of the downtrodded and the weak. Well, okay, so the weak part fits you, maybe you sorta laugh at yourself - unintentionally.
I laugh at you all the time. And I have no broken arms. But you would hit a woman, wouldn’t you? Classy.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:21 pmThe look on Bush’s face at the Democrats subversion was worth tolerating the reflexive gagging through the rest of his lie-fest. Now if we can just get them to do that where it matters - confront him on his domestic spying violations.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:25 pmYou could see Bush wasn’t happy about his audiences expression of delight at one of his failures.
Comment by CalGal — February 1, 2006 @ 5:20 pm
Megalomaniacs never are…
February 1st, 2006 at 5:27 pmDude, you have been called out on many many occasions here. DO you really think anybody hear thinks you can break anybody’s arm. You are the lowest ranking member of the 101st fighting keyboard squad, nothing else. A scared little pussy is all you are.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:30 pmFinancial Times
Febrauary 1, 2006
Bush misfires in drive to end ‘oil addiction’
Way to go George, let’s make oil $250 a barrel. Freaking numbskull.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:34 pmRuetters
February 1, 2006
Bush energy plan won’t cut need for Mideast oil
Yea! $700,000 - $1 million dollars for a car!
February 1st, 2006 at 5:38 pmWay to go George, let’s make oil $250 a barrel. Freaking numbskull.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 1, 2006 @ 5:34 pm
Legacy aside, how did either Yale or Harvard let him IN, much less OUT? Think it’s too late to take back their diplomas?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:40 pmBush is going to outlaw cloning in all its forms. Including the natural form of identical twins. From now on, when identical twins are born, parents will have to choose which one will live, so we don’t have a bunch of clones running around taking over the place.
And those animal-human hybrids, did anyone else find it funny coming from a guy who looks like a chimp?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:43 pm#127 Thats a million bucks per car, and the cars have a range of 100 miles or less (assuming the fuel system doesn’t have any leaks larger than a hydrogen atom).
February 1st, 2006 at 5:44 pmBoy, IRI certainly got you guys going today. If he’s so wrong, why do you pay attention to him?
Re. the Social Security issue (this WAS the thread topic, right?) — I really don’t see much harm in giving some (not all) control to the individual to manage their retirement fund. The stock market produces about 8-10% annual return over a 50 year period, which is MUCH better than the govt. can do.
As people get closer to retirement they would shift their retirement $ to more stable investments (like t-bills) to reduce their risk. For those that don’t feel confident in managing their $ themselves they can elect to have the Govt. manage it for them — like the current system.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:54 pmAs an equally concerned conservative,if you can tell me how the transition costs are covered I might agree with you. But if you are like me,you have been putting money away so as not to have to rely on social security payments for anything other than paying country club dues and the occasional meal.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:59 pmI wonder what Stewart will say about it on the Daily Show tonight.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:02 pmTo answer #2 above, the human-animal hybrid thing is a code phrase used by the Bushistas to refer to stem cell research. He’s telling the fundies to go after that next.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:10 pmTHAT WAS GOOD TIMING BY THE DEMS. YOU COULD TELL BUSH WAS STARTING TO PIVOT AND RAISING HIS FINGER TO SCOLD THEM AND THEY TOTALLY THREW HIM OFF BY APPLAUDING WHEN HE WAS GETTING READY TO HIT THE PAYOFF LINE. HE STILL GOT HIS LINE IN, BUT IT WAS IN DEFENSE INSTEAD OF THE OFFENSIVE BROADSIDE HE WAS PLANNING.
AND, YEAH, SOCIAL SECURITY PRIVATIZATION IS A SCAM. CHILE AND G.B. ARE TRYING TO BACK OUT OF IT, IT’S BEEN WORKING SO BADLY FOR THEM. AND, YEAH, THERE’S NO WAY TO PAY THE TRANSITION COSTS, SO IT WILL BE WHAT $2 TRILLION PULLED OUT OF THE SYSTEM. AND YEAH, 8 TO 10 PERCENT RETURNS ARE NOWHERE NEAR WHAT YOU’D GET WITH THE REQUIRED WIMP FUNDS AND THE ADMINISTRATION COSTS. AND, OF COURSE, AFTER IT ALL, YOU’D BE REQUIRED TO BUY SOME HALF-ASS ANNUITY AT THE END.
YOU KNOW, I’M AN INVESTOR AND I’M NOT AFRAID OF THAT STUFF, BUT THIS WAS JUST A TOTAL SCAM.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:20 pmBoy, IRI certainly got you guys going today. If he’s so wrong, why do you pay attention to him?
Comment by Concerned Conservative — February 1, 2006 @ 5:54 pm
Silence is often mistaken for acquiescence.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:21 pmWhere the hell was Howard Dean last night and what the hell was Tim Kaine doing giving the Democratic response?
The head of the Republican Party, the President gave a speech.
The head of the Democratic Party, the DNC Chairman Howard Dean, should have offered the Democratic response!!!
This is why the DEMS SUCK!
And this is why they fail.
What a stupid idea, putting up a high pitched softspoken, almost effeminate middle of the road little known Democrat to offer a half baked response to the Presidents speech.
I don’t know who I’m madder at right now.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:28 pmKaine sounded like Lieberman, all over the place, talking about everything under the sun, rambling on and on until he left the viewers saying huh, what? What point was he trying to make?
Dean gave a great reponse on a pundit show later, but he should have been front and center, tossing it back in the Presidents face.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:32 pmIf the Democrats would UNIFY BEHIND their LEADER, Howard Dean, they could easily win.
But they all have their own agendas, they all want to be Pres, and Hillary wants to be the first women President.
We need people of Character, like Howard Dean, and Paul Hackett, men who speak their minds, and don’t hold back.
We have all the Liebermans and Daschle types we need.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:34 pmwhy the hell won’t you people let us DOWNLOAD the videos, rather than just stream them?
February 1st, 2006 at 6:38 pmSorry Bushllit (#11) Ligers are real - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger
as are Tigons - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigon
although no direct genetic manipulation is necessary simply placing the species together in an enclosed space is sufficient for occasional success at breeding.
Although neither have any scientifically recognised magical properties.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:46 pm#141 It’s already gone too far…
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/oz/images/vc50.jpg
February 1st, 2006 at 6:56 pm#77 “Well, you know what they say Joe, men who are obsessed with guns are just trying to make up for a deficiency…”
February 1st, 2006 at 7:10 pm—unbelievable
*****That’s what the little New Age men keep telling you. And bless your heart, you act like you believe them so they don’t get a more pronounced complex. But men who are obsessed with guns are generally a pretty good shot when the wolf is at the door.
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
10 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Capitol Police dropped a charge of unlawful conduct against anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan on Wednesday and apologized for ejecting her and a congressman’s wife from President Bush’s State of the Union address for wearing T-shirts with war messages.
“The officers made a good faith, but mistaken effort to enforce an old unwritten interpretation of the prohibitions about demonstrating in the Capitol,†Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer said in a statement late Wednesday.
“The policy and procedures were too vague,†he added. “The failure to adequately prepare the officers is mine.â€
February 1st, 2006 at 7:13 pmSo we now learn they did not even have legal grounds to arrest her?
Well at least they apologized… :|
February 1st, 2006 at 7:32 pmSo we are to assume some low level Capital police officer made a call he has never made before?
Made a call on a law that was “unwritten” but he apparently knew enough about it to march into the Capital during the State of the Union address, to arrest a mother who lost a son in Iraq, and the rest of the cops followed suit?
Hmmm, guess I could buy that. If I were a brainwashed idiot like the rest of the sheep.
I will wager that the order to arrest came from a lot higher than these clowns, but either way it was a sick act, and apologizing for it after the fact is bs.
They broke the law, and I hope she sues.
February 1st, 2006 at 7:33 pmNot to mention marching a Congressmens wife out with her.
February 1st, 2006 at 7:34 pmlike cindy said today on randi rhodes’ show: (to paraphrase) “this is why my son died?”
cindy was ARRESTED, CUFFED, CHARGED …
February 1st, 2006 at 7:38 pmthe congressman’s wife was not…hmmmmm…
“*****That’s what the little New Age men keep telling you. And bless your heart, you act like you believe them so they don’t get a more pronounced complex. But men who are obsessed with guns are generally a pretty good shot when the wolf is at the door.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — February 1, 2006 @ 7:10 pm”
How much experience do you have with this particular issue oh goddess of love? Is that what you do for a living, or is it just a hobby you have?
As for being a good shot, is that why so many of them shoot their wives, girlfriends and families? Almost half of the HALF MILLION homicides since 1997 have been committed by family members or spouses. Those guns of yours seem to do a lot more damage then the largely mythical terrorists you seem so frightened of.
Poor partisan brains seem to have so little perspective on the world, and yet so much blustering attitude.
It’s OK mighty - it’s clear that you’re scared of the terrorists - we get it sweetie. You’re a frightened old woman that wants to kill everyone who’s brown or darker just like your hubby I-RIGHT-I does. But that’s just old lady hysteria talking sweetums. Get a grip if you can - because you sound so silly that I’m starting to giggle every time I read the same little postings from you day in and day out.
I know you’re much more capable than you’re letting on - come on, let everyone see that you’re not just a wounded partisan. You’re a brave american under those quaking quilts, give us a whirl there old girl! Come out and be an american first, and a scared partisan second. We’d welcome you in a second!
February 1st, 2006 at 7:40 pmI-R-I has got to be the most pathetic, sad person alive if she/he/it posts every day on a liberal blog just to piss people off. Extremely immature and just a waste of time. What a dumbass.
February 1st, 2006 at 7:52 pm*****That’s what the little New Age men keep telling you. And bless your heart, you act like you believe them so they don’t get a more pronounced complex. But men who are obsessed with guns are generally a pretty good shot when the wolf is at the door.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — February 1, 2006 @ 7:10 pm
But isn’t your husband a Repugnicant like you? Oh… but your illegal pool boy - he muct be the liberal of whom you speak. Really, you can’t blame the poor guy for not being able to perform. It is YOU. Not many liberals are into necrophilia…
Honestly, time to go read a third grade history book. Our Founding Fathers were liberals. And they conceived the right to bear arms to protect the citizenry against tyranny, not figments of your imagination.
Besides, in what backwoods BFE do you live to have wolves scratching at your door at night? Don’t worry - they won’t eat carasses more than a couple days old. You’re safe. No need to have some testerone-laden imbicle shoot anything to save you. There are some things even a starving carnivore won’t touch.
February 1st, 2006 at 8:34 pmWell at least they apologized… :|
Comment by WORFEUS — February 1, 2006 @ 7:32 pm
Yeah, at least… Incredible.
February 1st, 2006 at 8:37 pmI have to agree with this comment, regarding the Democratic standing ovation at privatization’s failure:
“It can only reinforce their image as the Party of sneering disrespect, and hate.”
It will. It doesn’t matter that they are right. This was immature and politically bone-brained.