VIDEO: Failure of Social Security Privatization Gets Standing Ovation
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VIDEO: Failure of Social Security Privatization Gets Standing Ovation
When President Bush first launched his campaign to privatize Social Security last year, just 39 percent of Americans approved of how he was handling the issue. A year later, that number has dropped to 35 percent.
The sentiments of the majority of Americans was voiced last night when President Bush brought up his privatization plans. Bush’s statement that “Congress did not act last year on my proposal” was met with rousing, unexpected applause that clearly unnerved Bush. Watch it:
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The Democratic Party's one and only shining moment last night. It was great to watch.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:42 pmDoes anyone know where the idea of human-animal hybrids came from other than the obvious myths and fictional entertainment? Is someone really trying to do this? Or was it some type of emotional manipulation. I would really like to know if any Right Wingers know about it, I don’t think even crazy Coulter has ever mentioned it in her right to life emotionally charged drama.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:42 pmSaw that last night. Dems grew a pair for a few minutes. Brought a tear my eye...
February 1st, 2006 at 1:44 pm"human-anmial hybrids"
Is someone trying to make talking donkeys, centaurs or pegasi?
February 1st, 2006 at 1:45 pmHuman-animal hybrids. "Are we not MEN?"
February 1st, 2006 at 1:46 pm“Are we not MEN?â€
We are BEVO.
Sorry, had to do it.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:47 pm.
Damn. That was a fine video to watch. Bush all but blew a gasket.
Couldn't have happened to a finer president.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:48 pmDoes anyone know where the idea of human-animal hybrids came from other than the obvious myths and fictional entertainment? Is someone really trying to do this? Or was it some type of emotional manipulation. I would really like to know if any Right Wingers know about it, I don’t think even crazy Coulter has ever mentioned it in her right to life emotionally charged drama.
This is actually becoming quite commonplace. Mouse/Human embryos are used in research quite often to test drugs and how diseases progress. A mouse with human brain characteristics are better suited to track Alzheimers progression and/or treatment than a just a mouse brain.
The ethical ramifications of hybridizing humans with any other animal is quite disturbing. Where does it stop? When will we see athletes with gorilla genes to increase their strength? Dolphins with human genes to smarten them for military operations... or humans with dolphin genes to help be better Navy SEALS and hold their breath longer?
You laugh but do honestly think "they" will ever be happy with just using mice for Alzheimers testing...
February 1st, 2006 at 1:48 pmGet the video up of nobody applauding when Bush mentioned earmark reform.
February 1st, 2006 at 1:51 pmHere's an article about a monkey that has been hybridized with human brain cells...
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/science/july-dec05/chimera_8-16.html
February 1st, 2006 at 1:51 pmI'm waiting to see the feared Liger (a cross betweeen a lion and tiger, known for its skills in magic)...someone should have told Bush theat Nepolean Dynamite is not real...gosh, what an idiot
February 1st, 2006 at 1:55 pmThe Democratic Party’s one and only shining moment last night. It was great to watch.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
If that's what you call a shining moment for the Donks then you are even more perverse than I first imagined.
I saw it on a re-run and would say that this sarcastic democrat response over Congress’ failure to address Social Security entitlements (that will one day doom the Union), can only reinforce their image as the Party of sneering disrespect, and hate. This is how The Filthy Left will “confront the great issues before usâ€, and will “act in a spirit of goodwill and respect for one another.â€???
Then entire country (except for me and a few of my global capitalist business associates) saw Hillary for the feckless partisan wretch that she is and right then and there determined that the woman will never set foot in the White House again. The Donks are insane with rage, contempt and envy. 06 and 08 will see the end of the Democratic Party as we know it unless Clinton, Kennedy, Pelosi, Boxer, Dean, Kerry and a host of other “leaders†of the party all commit mass suicide after losing the elections.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:01 pmNothing wrong with chimeras - just because you go "Eewww!" at the idea, doesn't make it inherently wrong. If there's any species who's genes we have a right to diddle with, surely it's our own?
Of course, human nature being what it is, nobody can be trusted to do this without *extensive* oversight and ethical checks. I'd support doing this for health reasons (i.e you can create a child with a genetic tendency to be healthier and stronger than we are now), but that'd be about all, I think.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:01 pmNice moment, but Bush is right in that the problem is not going away.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:04 pm#8 - Actually, they're planning on introducing the genes for "honesty" and "integrity" back into the Reppublican party.
I think they're also experimenting with adding "ethics", "fiscal responsibility" and "taking responsibility for your actions" back into the Republicans.
Because it's been so long since the 'Phants have expressed these traits, the scientists are not expecting much in the way of success. I believe it was the Abramoff like sick-o-phants who were instrumental in removing the above listed traits from the Phant gene pool.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:08 pmWell, IRI, if anyone's a hate specialist, it's you. By the way, did you notice John McCain's sarcastic applause when Bush mentioned earmarks? Gee, you must really hate McCain, too.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:09 pmDoes ANTONE really give a damn about I-Wrong???
I mean a coward and spineless person that he is, along with the biased and racist posture only leads me to believe that he/she/it is just as dillusional as BUSH...
Oh well, I am glad that BUSH got b*tch slapped on national TV...But, I am equally impressed that many DEMS are now fighting instead of waiting for the winds to blow them in the right direction...
50,000 soldiers READY to leave this illegal war and BUSH imposes indefinite indentured servitude to MAKE them stay...Highest number of consciencious objectors, AWOL, and DESERTION rates in history!!! And someone said it was an ALL VOLUNTEER Army???
What an IDIOT!!!
February 1st, 2006 at 2:10 pmDayum, meant ANYONE!
February 1st, 2006 at 2:11 pmYes, bush is right. But congress and the administration, in order to deal with it, have to admit they are the main source of the problem. SSI income has exceeded expenses for many, many years. Yet, congress and presidents eagerly spent it, with the promise to "replace it." Okay, it's time to replace it rather than eliminating or reducing promised benefits. This has never been a complex problem, just a problem of selfishness by the elected folks who spend our money on our behalf.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:12 pm#16 - Don't listen to the invective that "Right between the I's" spews. He's been given his talking points by his neo-con leaders, and anyone who dares to correct his world view must be wrong.
It's very comforting to the trolls to be able to parrot a talking point and not have to engage the brain cells. It also makes "Ditto!" much easer to roll of the tongue without requiring a side-trip to thought or reason.
Eventually, their rose colored glasses will fog up from the amount of hot air the Phants are blowing, and they'll either run head long into the storm of reason or eventually fall over the edge of the cliff that awaits all lemmings.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:15 pmyes, the Dems showed their sacks for a bit, there... certainly was a nice counterpoint to the Republicants' insane cheering about permanent tax cuts... it just takes the mention of money to get them excited...
February 1st, 2006 at 2:15 pmDon't worry, Democrat Soldier, IRI and I have debated, usually fairly civilly, often. I'm through with him/it for now.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:17 pm#14 his solution was like most other reforms of large government programs not a solution but a vehicle to benefit a wealthy group of bush constituents, not the American public. Privatising social security does wall street and the investment mangers good, a steady flow of cash, no linger have to worry about having the flow slowed during a downturn because there can't be a downturn if the working public must put money in the stock market. There is still the problem of stagnation which will hurt the investor who doesn't earn any profit but still pays the fees to the portfolio manager's. Kinda like the stock market of late, And with the likes of tyco, enron, worldcom, not to mention the airline industry and GM's possible bankrupcy the stock market is not the safest place to put money if you do not have any way to make up the losses. There are better ways to resolve the problems than to gut the core and push people into a system that is not a true insurance or retirement policy.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:18 pmIrighti you cut and pasted that post from one of the earlier threads. Lazy bastard! Do you want me to cut and past all the lambasting you got on that thread too?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:18 pmBackOnTopic:
If the Dems were able to stand togethere last night and agree-
why not a platform they can all agree with and have the balls to carry it out like a political party!
Cut the ties to corporations and represent the people,
not communism,
but capitilism,
with corporations having NO POWER!!!
then any business can succeed not just the Good Ole Boys
...if there are dems who are against the platform,
February 1st, 2006 at 2:28 pmboot 'em out
...everyone has their own opinions and beliefs, but in this two party system we need a common cause to stand up for...its like cowboys & indians, one or the other, and its time the indians stood up and took control!!!
Actually, did I miss it, or did Bush not actually offer *a proposal* on SS?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:28 pm#25 - You're right, it seemed to be a secret plan.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:30 pmThey actually included it in the official transcript.
Surprising...
February 1st, 2006 at 2:32 pmJane #21, like you, I also have debated with IRI, one redneck winger to another. As a half-baked conservative dipstick myself, I rather enjoy his blasts.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you think junior had IRI in mind when he was talking about needing to shut down the human/animal cloning experiments. I'm thinking of an I-RIGHT-I/baboon kind of thing. How about you?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:32 pmThis will make for a great ad to attack Democrats as thoughtless partisans interested only in opposing President Bush. The American people want a solution - do liberals have one? No. That will bring more defeat at the polls.
Special thanks to Cindy Sheehan for exposing you all as the treasonous scum you really are.
Anyone catch Justice Alito in his robe? lol!
February 1st, 2006 at 2:33 pm[...] Think Progress � VIDEO: Failure of Social Security Privatization Gets Standing Ovation [...]
February 1st, 2006 at 2:34 pmThe Social Security issue was resolved in the 70s when taxes were raised to keep it solvent. Unfortunately, it's always been promoted as part of the general budget revenue by administrations of both parties, because things look rosier that way.
That's fine if you're running a surplus, as we were when this assclown took office. When he raided the treasury after he was "elected", it was a redistribution of of much of that tax money - the lion's share paid by working people - from the poor and middle-class, to the rich.
You could look it up.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:34 pmI can't watch this video. I'd like to, but all I get is a big fat question mark with quick time.
Can I actually download this video? Is it available for windows media? How can I see this thing? Is it a bandwith issue?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:35 pmThe biggest entitlement isnt Medicaid,Medicare,Welfare,food stamps...Its the drain on the Taxpayer for supporting the president ,vpresident,cabinets,congress,senate. That is the biggest drain on Taxpayers. Lets cut W salary to o.oo since he has free housing including private chefs. Life time pension,medical,dental need I say more and I'm sick of supporting these Facists.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:37 pmThe purpose of social security reform is to prop up the stock market so savvy investors can sell and get out.
who actually believes the market will retain value once the boomers start cashing out their pension, mutual funds and 401Ks?
Once the great cashout begins, the Plunge Protection Team won't be able to keep up the loud gush of money leaving the system. The market will collapse to virtually nothing, leaving all of those retired investors broke.
The far right knows this is a racket and they want theirs, while there is still seomthing to loot. Privatizing Social Security will create a stock market bubble that will make a number of savvy investors very wealthy. All they have to do is sell everything before the bubble deflates.
Social Security as we know it is doomed and privatized social security is doomed also. It's just another way for institutions to steal the funds you think are going toward retirement.
Best savings plan you can have is to pay off your house and bring your bills to a minimum. Anything beyond that is gambling with a losing hand.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:37 pm"The Donks are insane with rage, contempt and envy."
Sounds like the Republican party, circa 1998. Worked out okay for you guys. I think the "Donks" need MORE rage and contempt, not less. I'm gonna start by voicing my contempt for you.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:39 pmjudge eloto was the stone man in black
judge roberts was the head jerking in saying my massa i will do you bidding as your boy judge.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:39 pmhehe, how funny is the guy who describes the Democrats as the Filthy Left and decries them for their hate?
I am so delighted trailer trash like this guy are offended by the Democrats.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:39 pmInnocent Lite #30: Your mama.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only scum around here is on your teeth, dick breath.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:40 pmGood one, Joe! Actually, I think IRI is the 4-assed monkey on South Park.
Where've ya been, Joe, we've missed your "correct me if I'm wrong" lines? Good to hear from you again.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:41 pmThanks scat on the explanation.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:41 pmcan only reinforce their image as the Party of sneering disrespect, and hate. This is how The Filthy Left
Oh, the irony. Too bad conservatives aren't wired for it.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:42 pmAs I recall, about 80% of Americans remained seated back when Bush was pushing for SS privatization.
It didn't die because Congress refused to act. It died because no one wanted it.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:43 pmYou really want a one-party country IRI?
February 1st, 2006 at 2:44 pmUsually when people do this in a Bush speech, he has them arrested.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:44 pmBush getting rolled on Social Security was clearly one of the "Top 10 State of the Union Highlights."
February 1st, 2006 at 2:44 pmThis will make for a great ad to attack Democrats as thoughtless partisans interested only in opposing President Bush. The American people want a solution - do liberals have one?
First we have to agree on the problem, chuckles.
Then any proposed solutions have to be examined to see if they actually do anything to make the situation better. Bush's, of course, only makes it worse.
No. That will bring more defeat at the polls.
Another right-winger pretending that the 2004 elections weren't stolen.
Special thanks to Cindy Sheehan for exposing you all as the treasonous scum you really are.
It isn't treason to point out the troops who are dying in Bush's little crusade.
Anyone catch Justice Alito in his robe? lol!
Whatever turns you on.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:48 pmMNPundit: Go to Apple and download QuickTime.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:50 pmWell, Jane, I been hanging out, mostly. Sopping up the brew down at the bar and trying to smooch up on a few of the ugly scuzzies down there.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with Bush's polls in the tank, the country going to hell, and an impending democratic takeover in November if the "donks" play their cards right, I was as scarce as the other demoralized trolls around here. Junior's speech has heartened me again, however, along with IRI, mighty aphrodite, and the others. So here I am helping them out with the real facts and backing up their attacks on you lefties.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:51 pmI don't understand why celebrating the lack of progress on SS seems to tickle TP's fancy. Are you guys rooting for the SS system to implode? Because that's what's going to happen if nothing is done.
And don't think that raising taxes is going to fly as a solution.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:53 pmYes it was nice to see the Dems do something as one yesterday. My disappoint is that they only can seem to do it when they know the whole country is watching. I mean if you can't come together as a party to prevent a man such as Alito from becoming a SCJ then a little clapping in unison on National TV means about as much to me as promise unfullfilled and that is to properly represent the people that have elected them.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:54 pm#50 - How many times in the past has SS paied out more than it's taken in? (Hint: more than 10 times)
Don't forget, when SS starts to pay out more than it takes in, it'll be taking in about 80 cents for every dollar that is paid out. Currently, our federal budget takes in about 60 cents for every dollar it pays out. So, in 2030, SS will be on a better financial foundation than our current federal budget. Pardon me for not crying a river over your alarmist attitude.
Also, with the number of people that Pres. Bush plans on getting killed over the next few wars, we won't have to worry about SS going under any time soon.
How about we reduce the bloated Federal Budget before we start to dismantle Social Security, huh? Too much to ask from the so-called "fiscally conservative" Republicans in charge of the massive federal budget, huh???
February 1st, 2006 at 2:58 pmThere's nothing wrong with Social Security and hasn't been since Reagan's Congress fixed it by raising the tax rate in '83. The problem is with Medicare and the continual rise in health care costs.The Part D legislation was vote pandering at its worst and will contribute more over time to the potential bankruptcy of the nation than Social Security ever will.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:01 pmThe use of SS money as part of the general treasury by itself is not a problem,though.It's the fact that spending has gotten out of control.GWB has the highest growth in spending of any president (including LBJ) and the greatest growth in government ever.
The economy has grown because Keynes was correct,deficit spending can drive economic growth,just not the sort of sustainable growth one would prefer.
I do personally like the tax cuts,though.Very nice.
Anybody see CBS's John Roberts' ridiculous take on the Dems standing O for failing to "reform" SS?
Instead of what any normal person would have said about the Dems witty and spirited interuption, he instead said that Bush was successful in baiting the Dems to applaud...
Oh really, John? That's how you saw it?
Hope you like your new gig at CNN:
February 1st, 2006 at 3:03 pmhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11128678/
Well, IRI, if anyone’s a hate specialist, it’s you. By the way, did you notice John McCain’s sarcastic applause when Bush mentioned earmarks? Gee, you must really hate McCain, too.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
I don't like McCain's face.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:10 pmDoes ANTONE really give a damn about I-Wrong???
Comment by IraqVet
You still here pretending to be a soldier?
February 1st, 2006 at 3:11 pmDon’t worry, Democrat Soldier, IRI and I have debated, usually fairly civilly, often. I’m through with him/it for now.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Hi Jane. When are you leaving that loser husband of yours?
February 1st, 2006 at 3:13 pmI’m thinking of an I-RIGHT-I/baboon kind of thing. How about you?
Comment by Joe Sixpack
My last girlfriend said I must have some Black in me. Does that count?
February 1st, 2006 at 3:14 pmThe Democratic Party’s one and only shining moment last night. It was great to watch.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — February 1, 2006 @ 1:42 pm
I think that was the only part of his entire speech that I enjoyed :). The rest of the time I just kept calling him a liar, and the Dems pathetic...
February 1st, 2006 at 3:22 pmPZ Myers over at Pharyngula has deciphered the "man-animal" comment as Bush's speaking in code to his Fundie base, and hoping that we don't figure it out. Just as he used "Dred Scott" as code for "I will outlaw abortion or at least make it difficult to legally obtain", the "man-animal" business is about banning stem cell and other kinds of genetic research.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:22 pm#58 - "Right between the I's", I guess it depends on if you hollered or sighed when you has some Black in you.
My pardon, I guess when people start bringing up sexual references in humor, I think about how much Government in general screws Americans, and how much Pres. Bush in specific has screwed the American public.
Don’t worry, “Right between the I’sâ€, I won’t tell your girlfriend that you had some Black in you. I’m sure that Lewis Black wasn’t proud of that moment either.
(Tongue in cheek.)
Back on topic: when Pres. Bush suggested his social experiment of “private accounts†to ‘fix’ Social Security, I’m sure it was a wet dream to the stock market to get their hands on the fees for handling all that money. While it sounded good in theory, they never once talked about what would happen if your investments should fail and you loose the money. They also conveniently didn’t talk much about how much they’d tax the proceeds if you’re investments panned out. How convenient for them!
February 1st, 2006 at 3:23 pmTaking the income cap off of social security will fix it.
But that would inconvience the ultra rich, so it won't happen.
As the purpose of government is to take money from the poor and give it to the wealthy, such a notion won't fly in Congress.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:24 pm# 58
Stop insulting black people.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:24 pmTake your butt plug out IRI, I'm home. It's your 10" Chippy. Naughty rightwing boy!
February 1st, 2006 at 3:26 pmI wonder why Democrats couldn't block Alito when Bush's approval rating is just 39%? That should worry the left.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:26 pmBush and his Republican cronies want to privatize Social Security so his brokerage-firm buddies can make big bucks off of it. However, as has been the case in every single pension privatization worldwide, the overhead costs under privatization are much greater than those under the old government programs, and definitely greater than that of the US' Social Security. Right now, the UK's pension program has 14% of its funds eaten up in overhead costs; Social Security, by contrast, has overhead costs of around 1%, if not less.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:27 pmAnd, IRI, don't bother trying to insult Wayne, either. You know as well as I do (and as everyone here does) that he can "run rings around you logically" (that's for you Python fans!)
February 1st, 2006 at 3:28 pmMy last girlfriend said I must have some Black in me. Does that count?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 3:14 pm
There's a class they teach in high school called ESOL (English for Speakers of other languages). There are four students in the fourth period class who are ethnic (two Mexican, one Filipino and one Africa). Not only were all four of these kids born here, but so were all of their parents and two of the kids grandparents. They each speak English with no accent and are all doing well in school.
Their teacher, however was born in French and speaks English as her second language. She is teaching ESOL to second and third generation Americans. Tell me that the racism in this country doesn't run as deep as IRI portrays...
You have the exact same type of DNA as every other person in the world. Why you judge people for their skin color is really assinine. Grow up.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:28 pm#62 - Sounds like Republican logic: give tax breaks to the rich people who don’t need them and cut funding of programs for the poor who depend on them.
I guess Pres. Bush and his sick-o-pahnts don’t care or think about the “lower 99%†of Americans. If we aren’t cleaning up the trash (from the bins in his house, or his legislative agenda nightmares, or his ‘foreign policy’ of ‘war for oil/profit’) then the average American citizen doesn’t enter his thoughts at all.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:28 pmWell, as for junior's speech last night, I think the two new supreme court justices pretty well got their marching orders: from abortion to cloning.
Correct me if I'm wrong, unbelievable, but the part I liked the best was when he called on the congress to not be so bitterly divided by offering an olive branch, then turning right around and attacking the dems for judging in "hindsight" and "second-guessing" the Iraqi War.
Oh, and the white dress Laura had on. I guessed yesterday that she'd be wearing white panties and it stands to reason, she would have had on matching panties.
I feel very vindicated.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:29 pmPlease excuse my typos... France not French, etc.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:30 pmJoe,
You're a bit pre-occupied with panties :)
Good point. I have to admit I changed the channle a couple of times trying to catch teh weather, so I missed that one. But, thanks for the recap. The hypocracy of the neocons is certainly appalling. Well to us liberals, I'm sure you conservatives just ignore it :)
February 1st, 2006 at 3:34 pmUnbelievable #70, in all fairness to I-RIGHT-I's remark about being half black----I doubt it was about racism this time.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as a rightwing, conservative redneck dipstick myself, I know what he was referring to and it ain't DNA. It has the size of his-----feet-----if you know what I mean.
(That's the way us real men brag about ourselves).
February 1st, 2006 at 3:35 pmI-right-i....was she one of the new blow up babes that you put batteries in?
Oh now you are high class. But didn't you get tired of her repeating the same 20 things over & over & over?
February 1st, 2006 at 3:36 pmAnd I-R-I's true character starts showing. Racist trash.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pm#73 - You're correct, but I just coudn't resist from making the comments about him having "some black in him".
February 1st, 2006 at 3:38 pmIt has the size of his—–feet—–if you know what I mean.
(That’s the way us real men brag about ourselves).
Comment by Joe Sixpack — February 1, 2006 @ 3:35 pm
Well, you know what they say Joe, men who are obsessed with guns are just trying to make up for a deficiency...
But the remark was still a stereo-type and it falls into the general catagory of racism when spoken by IRI. But I get your need to defend your fellow neocons and all...
February 1st, 2006 at 3:39 pm"My last girlfriend said I must have some Black in me. Does that count?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 3:14 pm
"
She just meant your were probably sodomized by a black man. Were you walking strangely at the time? Is this the root of your bitterness? Because, you know, interacial dating AND homosexuality are a lot more accepted than they used to be. Might as well come out of both closets at once.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:41 pmWeasel dog(?),how much money do you estimate would be raised by removing the wage cap? If you don't know how to estimate that #,then you don't know if that would "fix" the problem. While I don't think SS is the problem,Medicare most definitely is and no amount of juggling payroll deductions will fix it.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:43 pm#78 - real intelligent debate.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:51 pmHey, at least the Democrats let heir shrub know we have more power than you think..
Now about the cloning thing......... Jake the Alligator Man is proof that they have already gone too far.
February 1st, 2006 at 3:53 pmHybrid cars for hybrid people!
February 1st, 2006 at 4:00 pmYour evil, twisted, dried up, little heart doesn't count.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pmBush is so scripted and rehearsed that any diversion from the script befuddles him. What a fool, but perhaps he really is the leader of this foolish nation that elected him (maybe). I'm glad I am as old as I am and have cancer which just might take me out of this mess.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pmWe have absolutely no reason to "debate" with the likes of you or I-RIGHT-I. That is not why you or he comes here. So, go screw yourself.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:05 pm#82, Hans Moleman(if that is your real name-d'oh!), would that make them Volkswagens, translated, "people-cars"?
February 1st, 2006 at 4:07 pm[...] Apparently, the Dems did have one good moment, but the video seems overloaded so I haven’t watched it. [...]
February 1st, 2006 at 4:09 pm#80 - And here I thought that you were on the same side as "Right between the I's".
I find it interesting that you deride him for his sophomoric comments about his sexual prowess (or lack thereof). Have you decided to open your mind as well as your philosophy, now that TP has given you a less-than biased perspective of the world?
February 1st, 2006 at 4:16 pmEntitlements won't be a problem for another 40 years and at that time, the shortfall is only going to be a few billion (which is chump change for a government program of this scale). It can be taken care of relatively easily in a number of ways without privatizing, which is risky at best. My father, who is a conservative economist who has studied the social security system in great detail, thinks that Bush's "answer" would create far more problems within the system than it would help solve. I trust him much more than I do a president who has a problem understanding how the system was designed to work in the first place.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:18 pm#86 wouldn't it be a Volksbestiewagen?
The President left out so many details in his speech. Would these human-animal hybrids have special powers? Would they be shunned by society, forced to live underground and solve crimes, led by a mad scientist in a hoverchair?
In related news, Michael Chriton is appointed to direct all federal science research. Newly appointed scientists with huge grants predict dinosaurs will roam small islands off Costa Rica. In liberal California, a gang of dred-locked eco-terrorists have been arrested for engineering Hurricane Katrina as part of their mad plot to advance radical environmentalism. And if you see a super-intelligent gorilla, don't make eye contact.
Also, instead of evolving like we thought we did, it turns out God did it.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:22 pmbill,as to Social Security,you (and your father)are correct. If you mean to include Medicare in that statement,you need to revisit his analysis. Medicare is a huge problem and by 2050 will require more than the government currently collects as a % of GDP.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:23 pmWe have absolutely no reason to “debate†with the likes of you or I-RIGHT-I. That is not why you or he comes here. So, go screw yourself.
Not to mention that when we do bother to point out the rather gaping flaws in their arguments, we tend to get ignored.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:26 pm#80 -The fact you could even consider that debate shows the total lack of comprehension we expect from republicans. I mean, where does the premise "My GF says I must have a little black in me" go in debate? Are you an idiot?
That was simply insult and provocation. Among friends, it would just be a nice smackdown, but believe me, that's not how it was intended.
Debating IRI is a pointless activity - he has no facts, refuses to accept facts, has no informed opinion, and is incapable of appreciating informed opinion. Why bother? He's the net equivalent of one of those guys sitting in a dunking tank. He was made to be humilated, and he's too stupid to realize how humiliating his situation is anyways, so might as well lob a few fastballs for the kicks.
Sadly, this describes most conservative bloggers and punditry. Pretending they are worthy of debate may be nice practice for serious discussions later, but just mocking them is ultimately more fun and helps reduce whatever air of legitmacy they claim for themselves.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:27 pmCorrect me if I’m wrong, but as a rightwing, conservative redneck dipstick myself, I know what he was referring to and it ain’t DNA. It has the size of his—–feet—–if you know what I mean.
(That’s the way us real men brag about ourselves).
Comment by Joe Sixpack
Did you ever notice that the real hard core Leftist are totally devoid of sense of humor?
I look forward to the day when I get to shoot the first SOB that tries to arrest me for telling a Sambo joke, or a Polish joke or an Irish joke or another damn thing I want to tell that offends someone's tender sensibilities. Really, if you peckerwoods get your way that might not be too far off.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:30 pmPerhaps MediCare wouldn't be as big a problem if the Republicans had let the federal government negotiate with the pharmaceuticals for lower prices on prescription drugs, like they do in other countries and government agencies. But Billy Tauzin (sp?) wanted to give his new future employers (Pharma) something to be thankful for. So he got the billed passed, then immediately left Congress to go work for them.
MediCare would also be in better shape if there weren't so many people in the health care industry who were only in it for the money.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:32 pm"Did you ever notice that the real hard core Leftist are totally devoid of sense of humor?
I look forward to the day when I get to shoot the first SOB that tries to arrest me for telling a Sambo joke, or a Polish joke or an Irish joke or another damn thing I want to tell that offends someone’s tender sensibilities. Really, if you peckerwoods get your way that might not be too far off.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:30 pm "
Oh sweetie, partisans of all ilks are devoid of humor, that's why you say such silly things and 'think' they're funny - whe clearly they aren't. It's why O'Reilly isn't funny, and Colbert is funny. Partisans such as yourself always 'believe' you're funny, just as you believe donkeys can't talk. But both are a myth pumpkin.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:33 pmDebating IRI is a pointless activity - he has no facts, refuses to accept facts, has no informed opinionComment by [snip leftistfucktard blabbering]
Mysticdog
Translation: He kicked my ass once and I've never gotten over it.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:34 pmThe republican partisan social security 'scam' wasn't designed to protect american retirement, it was designed to steal more money from the federal government by partisan corruption.
Compare that to the work that Reagan did, where he actually let both parties pick their own representative, and a reasonable and non-partisan solution was produced. As much as Reagan was unreasonable at times, at least with Social Security - he put america before his partisan agenda. That's what a real leader does - too bad we don't have one currently.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:36 pmOh sweetie, partisans of all ilks are devoid of humor, that’s why you say such silly things and ‘think’ they’re funny - whe clearly they aren’t. It’s why O’Reilly isn’t funny, and Colbert is funny. Partisans such as yourself always ‘believe’ you’re funny, just as you believe donkeys can’t talk. But both are a myth pumpkin.
Comment by RightPunch
I thought you supposed to be a guy? And just because YOU don't find my little quips funny doesn't mean I should not entertain myself. After all, it is about me, right?
February 1st, 2006 at 4:38 pm#1 Wayne
February 1st, 2006 at 4:38 pmI agree - it was the high spot of the evening.
In addition, the fool praised Coretta King, even though he opposes everything her husband stood for.
He hardly mentioned the state of the union, which includes the Gulf states - three months after he promised them under the eerie, portable blue lights that he would do everything he can. Well when I think of it maybe he is keeping his promise, it's just that he is entirely completely incompetent, ignorant and useless.
"Translation: He kicked my ass once and I’ve never gotten over it.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:34 pm"
Oh sweetie, just because you win a game on the XBox, doesn't mean the real world sees you as a winner. Keep up the partisan fantasy - and how's Balaam these days doing anyway?
I forgive you for your attack on Misticdog, I'm sure didn't mean to lie, smear and level baseless accusation - we'll just blame it on the partisan brain and forgive you - ok pumpkin?
February 1st, 2006 at 4:38 pmDid you ever notice that the real hard core Leftist are totally devoid of sense of humor?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:30 pm
Uh, hello? Have you ever heard of Comedy Central? The Daily Show? The Colbert Report? We are the only ones with a sense of humor. Laughing at the expense of those who have suffered for the thing you mock is just not funny. And you know it.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:40 pm"I thought you supposed to be a guy? And just because YOU don’t find my little quips funny doesn’t mean I should not entertain myself. After all, it is about me, right?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:38 pm"
Absolutely pumpkin, as a partisan your world is definitely about you, as are your efforts to entertain yourself. I won't disagree with that. But it doesn't make you 'funny', or a good judge of 'funny' pumpkin just because you laugh at yourself ;) And when people laugh at you dear, it doesn't always mean your funny either, sometimes laughter comes from embarrassment at the expense of others.
But if you like to entertain yourself by pretending you're funny, or pretending that you're debating, or even by pretending that you're reasoning - you just help yourself. Stopping a partisan brain during mid-fantasy is clearly not a very practical solution.
But I forgive you for all of your fear, hatred, anger and failures at humor. You're clearly doing the best you can with that big brain of yours in its power saving mode. You might try a hardware upgrade sometime and see if you can get it run full speed - it might be fun to see what churns out :)
February 1st, 2006 at 4:41 pmI-R-I, You either paid the girl to say it, and they will say it-its not the oldest profession for nothing - or she referred to how you can shit without sitting!!
Get back into your over-priced jeep liberty and go down another block and buy another compliment...or maybe with all this stress go geta massage
February 1st, 2006 at 4:42 pmBut both are a myth pumpkin.
Comment by RightPunch — February 1, 2006 @ 4:33 pm
Don't forget to include his pursuit of the mythical Perfect Woman either (not like he offers perfection to attract such a thing did it exist).
February 1st, 2006 at 4:42 pm#100 Marie,
February 1st, 2006 at 4:43 pmYou may be right on that reasoning. ("I didn't lie, you see? I said I'd do everything I can. But I wasn't lying, because I can't do anything right! Yes, you, next question.")
unbelievable,
The rightwing think Limbaugh, O'Reilly and that poor chump from Saturday night live - that I think got cancelled? - are all funny. What passes for humor in the partisan brain is really amusing to me. That's the really funny part :)
February 1st, 2006 at 4:43 pmAfter all, it is about me, right?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
How's that working for ya on the social scene? Hmmm...? Didn't think so.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:45 pm"Don’t forget to include his pursuit of the mythical Perfect Woman either (not like he offers perfection to attract such a thing did it exist).
Comment by unbelievable — February 1, 2006 @ 4:42 pm"
Yeah, I've heard that the current plastic ones wear out too fast ;)
February 1st, 2006 at 4:48 pmMuch as Wayne and I would love to continue this, we have to go pick up one of our cars at the shop. See you tomorrow!
February 1st, 2006 at 4:50 pmDoes anyone know where the idea of human-animal hybrids came from other than the obvious myths and fictional entertainment? Is someone really trying to do this? Or was it some type of emotional manipulation?
Human/animal hybrid cell lines have been in existence for decades (IIRC mouse-human hybrids was one of the first). These are hardly "stem cells", much less capable of growing into any chimerical beastie on their own. So, yes, it's pandering to the red-meat base. But either profoundly dishonest or monumentally iggnerant (let's not leave out the possibility of both).
Such hybrid lines are the staple of lots of basic biochemical and genetic work. They're "immortalized" cell lines, and never grow to be anything other than more single cells, much like the workhorse HeLa cell line (one of the first and most famous such cell lines derived from a cancer in patient "Helen Lane"). They're unregulated, unorganized single-cell clutures, and the nearest thing they'd be to being "human" would be to be a human cancer; hardly something deserving of the sanctity of life, unless you're such a fundy nutzoid that you think that teratomas with "hair" and "teeth" (look up "teratoma" for more) are worthy of "Constitutional protection" even if they disable or kill the host patient....
In short, it's a freakin' unscientific crock put in to appeal to the Luddite/fundy crowd. Let them all die horrible and painful deaths from preventable and treatable cancer, I say ... they deserve to walk the walk if they're going to give such jive talk.
FWIW, there are actual "chimeric" creatures that have been produced with cells from different species, but in such cases, each cell is not a hybrid, but rather derived from one or the other. But this is more like heterografts than it is any real "new" creature; even if there were offspring (not particularly likely), they'd be one species or the other.
For an example of someone who probably should know better, but who confuses chimeras with hybrids, see here.
Here's one of the wackier loons out there, and you can see where the objections to this research are coming from. Sadly enough, even such as Nicholas Wade (formerly of Science magazine, now presumably making big bicks from the NYT) offered up this nonsense>/a>:
Not likely to happen unless you're of the strange opinion that lots of unsanctioned reproductive activities takes place after dark in labs, and even if it did, there's not a chance in hell that any such zygote would last even a couple of days (assuming that a pregancy is even possible, which is actually rather doubtful as well.
Cheers,
February 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pmThe rightwing think Limbaugh, O’Reilly and that poor chump from Saturday night live - that I think got cancelled? - are all funny. What passes for humor in the partisan brain is really amusing to me. That’s the really funny part :)
Comment by RightPunch — February 1, 2006 @ 4:43 pm
Yeah, he reminds me of this guy I met in college who moved, many years a later, to Tex-ass with his family and suddenly became religious and a bigot. The last time we spoke, he'd sent me a barrage of 'towel-head' jokes at the onset of the Iraq Invasion. When I asked him to remove me from that disribution because I found them offensive, he told me I had no sense of humor. I explained humor to him, and well, that was pretty much that. They only laugh at someone else's expense. And yet are the first ones crying when someone laughs at them...
February 1st, 2006 at 4:53 pmYeah, I’ve heard that the current plastic ones wear out too fast ;)
Comment by RightPunch — February 1, 2006 @ 4:48 pm
Scary visual.... thanks RightPunch ;)
February 1st, 2006 at 4:54 pmTHE TRUTH CAN NOW BE TOLD:
I-RIGHT-I IS A HUMAN-ANIMAL HYBRID.
February 1st, 2006 at 4:55 pmThey only laugh at someone else’s expense. And yet are the first ones crying when someone laughs at them…
Comment by unbelievable
We can laugh at ourselves which is something unheard of in leftist circles. Of course if YOU laugh at us we'll break your arm. That's why we win and why we're better than you. USA! USA!
February 1st, 2006 at 4:59 pmThe social security problem is a small one compared to other issues that Bush is willing to throw money at. The war in Iraq is going to cost trillions. The upcoming war in Iran is going to cost more.
Once the boomers retire en-masse, the stock market will be drained and the US Economy as a whole will go in the toilet.
Diverting Social Security payments into the stock market isn't a fix. It's a way to kill Social Security. It's simply another way to cover up the actions of the Plunge Protection Team.
The Us Government will pay for Social Security the way it's paying for everything, it will just deficit spend moeny it doesn't have. If you look at government finance as a whole, the way you're looking at social Security, you'll declare the whole shebang as broken, and in need of fixing.
Our Congress has been stealing money out of Social Security for decades and making it up by printing new monies. Why stop now? Converting Social security into a stock market gambling scheme, won't change anything of note.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pmTake a look at this site to see the US Debt.
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm
Social Security is currently funded out of deficit spending, why should we freak out over a few billion more when the debt is rising with each administration by the trillions?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:10 pmGet back into your over-priced jeep liberty and go down another block and buy another compliment…or maybe with all this stress go geta massage
Comment by Troll-Buster
The massage sounds like a good idea. I know this little chink place....Oh, not a Liberty. It's one of those big big 4 door 4X4s with all the bells and whistles that Bush was bitching about last night. You know the ones that get about 10mpg and take up two handicap parking spaces at a time. You know the ones? Loser.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:18 pm#115 - Poor little "Right bwetween the I's" is channeling his 'masculine' side. Is this before or after you get some 'black in you'?? Ha ha!
We don't need to laugh at ourselves as long as we have partisans like yourself. You and your kind provide more material to laugh at than Pres. Bush provides us, with his pathetic attempts at destroying Social Security!
Why don't you take some of that rage you have bottled up inside you and go enlist so you can release it on America's enemies? Could it be because you know we're only attacking the Iraqi citizens so we can hijack their oil?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:19 pmI just watched the clip and it brought tears to my eyes. With all the power and lies on one side, still we Democrats fight on. You could see Bush wasn't happy about his audiences expression of delight at one of his failures.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:20 pmYeah, I caught that, too as I was live-blogging it. They forced Bush to start sounding shrill. When is this brain-dead assclown going to realize that SS privatization is DOA, as is the rest of his lame duck agenda?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:21 pmWe can laugh at ourselves which is something unheard of in leftist circles. Of course if YOU laugh at us we’ll break your arm. That’s why we win and why we’re better than you. USA! USA!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 4:59 pm
No, you cannot. You only make fun of the downtrodded and the weak. Well, okay, so the weak part fits you, maybe you sorta laugh at yourself - unintentionally.
I laugh at you all the time. And I have no broken arms. But you would hit a woman, wouldn't you? Classy.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:21 pmThe look on Bush's face at the Democrats subversion was worth tolerating the reflexive gagging through the rest of his lie-fest. Now if we can just get them to do that where it matters - confront him on his domestic spying violations.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:25 pmYou could see Bush wasn’t happy about his audiences expression of delight at one of his failures.
Comment by CalGal — February 1, 2006 @ 5:20 pm
Megalomaniacs never are...
February 1st, 2006 at 5:27 pmDude, you have been called out on many many occasions here. DO you really think anybody hear thinks you can break anybody's arm. You are the lowest ranking member of the 101st fighting keyboard squad, nothing else. A scared little pussy is all you are.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:30 pmFinancial Times
Febrauary 1, 2006
Bush misfires in drive to end ‘oil addiction’
Way to go George, let's make oil $250 a barrel. Freaking numbskull.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:34 pmRuetters
February 1, 2006
Bush energy plan won't cut need for Mideast oil
Yea! $700,000 - $1 million dollars for a car!
February 1st, 2006 at 5:38 pmWay to go George, let’s make oil $250 a barrel. Freaking numbskull.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 1, 2006 @ 5:34 pm
Legacy aside, how did either Yale or Harvard let him IN, much less OUT? Think it's too late to take back their diplomas?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:40 pmBush is going to outlaw cloning in all its forms. Including the natural form of identical twins. From now on, when identical twins are born, parents will have to choose which one will live, so we don't have a bunch of clones running around taking over the place.
And those animal-human hybrids, did anyone else find it funny coming from a guy who looks like a chimp?
February 1st, 2006 at 5:43 pm#127 Thats a million bucks per car, and the cars have a range of 100 miles or less (assuming the fuel system doesn't have any leaks larger than a hydrogen atom).
February 1st, 2006 at 5:44 pmBoy, IRI certainly got you guys going today. If he's so wrong, why do you pay attention to him?
Re. the Social Security issue (this WAS the thread topic, right?) -- I really don't see much harm in giving some (not all) control to the individual to manage their retirement fund. The stock market produces about 8-10% annual return over a 50 year period, which is MUCH better than the govt. can do.
As people get closer to retirement they would shift their retirement $ to more stable investments (like t-bills) to reduce their risk. For those that don't feel confident in managing their $ themselves they can elect to have the Govt. manage it for them -- like the current system.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:54 pmAs an equally concerned conservative,if you can tell me how the transition costs are covered I might agree with you. But if you are like me,you have been putting money away so as not to have to rely on social security payments for anything other than paying country club dues and the occasional meal.
February 1st, 2006 at 5:59 pmI wonder what Stewart will say about it on the Daily Show tonight.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:02 pmTo answer #2 above, the human-animal hybrid thing is a code phrase used by the Bushistas to refer to stem cell research. He's telling the fundies to go after that next.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:10 pmTHAT WAS GOOD TIMING BY THE DEMS. YOU COULD TELL BUSH WAS STARTING TO PIVOT AND RAISING HIS FINGER TO SCOLD THEM AND THEY TOTALLY THREW HIM OFF BY APPLAUDING WHEN HE WAS GETTING READY TO HIT THE PAYOFF LINE. HE STILL GOT HIS LINE IN, BUT IT WAS IN DEFENSE INSTEAD OF THE OFFENSIVE BROADSIDE HE WAS PLANNING.
AND, YEAH, SOCIAL SECURITY PRIVATIZATION IS A SCAM. CHILE AND G.B. ARE TRYING TO BACK OUT OF IT, IT'S BEEN WORKING SO BADLY FOR THEM. AND, YEAH, THERE'S NO WAY TO PAY THE TRANSITION COSTS, SO IT WILL BE WHAT $2 TRILLION PULLED OUT OF THE SYSTEM. AND YEAH, 8 TO 10 PERCENT RETURNS ARE NOWHERE NEAR WHAT YOU'D GET WITH THE REQUIRED WIMP FUNDS AND THE ADMINISTRATION COSTS. AND, OF COURSE, AFTER IT ALL, YOU'D BE REQUIRED TO BUY SOME HALF-ASS ANNUITY AT THE END.
YOU KNOW, I'M AN INVESTOR AND I'M NOT AFRAID OF THAT STUFF, BUT THIS WAS JUST A TOTAL SCAM.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:20 pmBoy, IRI certainly got you guys going today. If he’s so wrong, why do you pay attention to him?
Comment by Concerned Conservative — February 1, 2006 @ 5:54 pm
Silence is often mistaken for acquiescence.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:21 pmWhere the hell was Howard Dean last night and what the hell was Tim Kaine doing giving the Democratic response?
The head of the Republican Party, the President gave a speech.
The head of the Democratic Party, the DNC Chairman Howard Dean, should have offered the Democratic response!!!
This is why the DEMS SUCK!
And this is why they fail.
What a stupid idea, putting up a high pitched softspoken, almost effeminate middle of the road little known Democrat to offer a half baked response to the Presidents speech.
I don't know who I'm madder at right now.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:28 pmKaine sounded like Lieberman, all over the place, talking about everything under the sun, rambling on and on until he left the viewers saying huh, what? What point was he trying to make?
Dean gave a great reponse on a pundit show later, but he should have been front and center, tossing it back in the Presidents face.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:32 pmIf the Democrats would UNIFY BEHIND their LEADER, Howard Dean, they could easily win.
But they all have their own agendas, they all want to be Pres, and Hillary wants to be the first women President.
We need people of Character, like Howard Dean, and Paul Hackett, men who speak their minds, and don't hold back.
We have all the Liebermans and Daschle types we need.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:34 pmwhy the hell won't you people let us DOWNLOAD the videos, rather than just stream them?
February 1st, 2006 at 6:38 pmSorry Bushllit (#11) Ligers are real - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger
as are Tigons - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigon
although no direct genetic manipulation is necessary simply placing the species together in an enclosed space is sufficient for occasional success at breeding.
Although neither have any scientifically recognised magical properties.
February 1st, 2006 at 6:46 pm#141 It's already gone too far...
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/oz/images/vc50.jpg
February 1st, 2006 at 6:56 pm#77 "Well, you know what they say Joe, men who are obsessed with guns are just trying to make up for a deficiency…"
February 1st, 2006 at 7:10 pm---unbelievable
*****That's what the little New Age men keep telling you. And bless your heart, you act like you believe them so they don't get a more pronounced complex. But men who are obsessed with guns are generally a pretty good shot when the wolf is at the door.
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
10 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Capitol Police dropped a charge of unlawful conduct against anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan on Wednesday and apologized for ejecting her and a congressman’s wife from President Bush’s State of the Union address for wearing T-shirts with war messages.
“The officers made a good faith, but mistaken effort to enforce an old unwritten interpretation of the prohibitions about demonstrating in the Capitol,†Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer said in a statement late Wednesday.
“The policy and procedures were too vague,†he added. “The failure to adequately prepare the officers is mine.â€
February 1st, 2006 at 7:13 pmSo we now learn they did not even have legal grounds to arrest her?
Well at least they apologized... :|
February 1st, 2006 at 7:32 pmSo we are to assume some low level Capital police officer made a call he has never made before?
Made a call on a law that was "unwritten" but he apparently knew enough about it to march into the Capital during the State of the Union address, to arrest a mother who lost a son in Iraq, and the rest of the cops followed suit?
Hmmm, guess I could buy that. If I were a brainwashed idiot like the rest of the sheep.
I will wager that the order to arrest came from a lot higher than these clowns, but either way it was a sick act, and apologizing for it after the fact is bs.
They broke the law, and I hope she sues.
February 1st, 2006 at 7:33 pmNot to mention marching a Congressmens wife out with her.
February 1st, 2006 at 7:34 pmlike cindy said today on randi rhodes' show: (to paraphrase) "this is why my son died?"
cindy was ARRESTED, CUFFED, CHARGED ...
February 1st, 2006 at 7:38 pmthe congressman's wife was not...hmmmmm...
"*****That’s what the little New Age men keep telling you. And bless your heart, you act like you believe them so they don’t get a more pronounced complex. But men who are obsessed with guns are generally a pretty good shot when the wolf is at the door.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — February 1, 2006 @ 7:10 pm"
How much experience do you have with this particular issue oh goddess of love? Is that what you do for a living, or is it just a hobby you have?
As for being a good shot, is that why so many of them shoot their wives, girlfriends and families? Almost half of the HALF MILLION homicides since 1997 have been committed by family members or spouses. Those guns of yours seem to do a lot more damage then the largely mythical terrorists you seem so frightened of.
Poor partisan brains seem to have so little perspective on the world, and yet so much blustering attitude.
It's OK mighty - it's clear that you're scared of the terrorists - we get it sweetie. You're a frightened old woman that wants to kill everyone who's brown or darker just like your hubby I-RIGHT-I does. But that's just old lady hysteria talking sweetums. Get a grip if you can - because you sound so silly that I'm starting to giggle every time I read the same little postings from you day in and day out.
I know you're much more capable than you're letting on - come on, let everyone see that you're not just a wounded partisan. You're a brave american under those quaking quilts, give us a whirl there old girl! Come out and be an american first, and a scared partisan second. We'd welcome you in a second!
February 1st, 2006 at 7:40 pmI-R-I has got to be the most pathetic, sad person alive if she/he/it posts every day on a liberal blog just to piss people off. Extremely immature and just a waste of time. What a dumbass.
February 1st, 2006 at 7:52 pm*****That’s what the little New Age men keep telling you. And bless your heart, you act like you believe them so they don’t get a more pronounced complex. But men who are obsessed with guns are generally a pretty good shot when the wolf is at the door.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — February 1, 2006 @ 7:10 pm
But isn't your husband a Repugnicant like you? Oh... but your illegal pool boy - he muct be the liberal of whom you speak. Really, you can't blame the poor guy for not being able to perform. It is YOU. Not many liberals are into necrophilia...
Honestly, time to go read a third grade history book. Our Founding Fathers were liberals. And they conceived the right to bear arms to protect the citizenry against tyranny, not figments of your imagination.
Besides, in what backwoods BFE do you live to have wolves scratching at your door at night? Don't worry - they won't eat carasses more than a couple days old. You're safe. No need to have some testerone-laden imbicle shoot anything to save you. There are some things even a starving carnivore won't touch.
February 1st, 2006 at 8:34 pmWell at least they apologized… :|
Comment by WORFEUS — February 1, 2006 @ 7:32 pm
Yeah, at least... Incredible.
February 1st, 2006 at 8:37 pmI have to agree with this comment, regarding the Democratic standing ovation at privatization's failure:
"It can only reinforce their image as the Party of sneering disrespect, and hate."
It will. It doesn't matter that they are right. This was immature and politically bone-brained. "Dems leap to their feet when NOTHING happens."
Great headline, you cocks.
February 1st, 2006 at 9:05 pmHe almost spoke the truth. He almost said the rising costs of entitlements is not a problem.
February 1st, 2006 at 9:10 pmapparently, when bush said "wel will cut foreign oil dependance by 75% by 2025." his energy secretary said he didn't mean it literally--hilarious!, yet disturbing
February 1st, 2006 at 9:13 pmI have to agree with this comment, regarding the Democratic standing ovation at privatization’s failure:
“It can only reinforce their image as the Party of sneering disrespect, and hate.â€
It will. It doesn’t matter that they are right. This was immature and politically bone-brained. “Dems leap to their feet when NOTHING happens.â€
Great headline, you cocks.
No gives a shit what you think. You are a turd grade math teacher from Texas.
Comment by J.D. Fisher
February 1st, 2006 at 9:15 pmIRI-
February 1st, 2006 at 9:29 pmWhat a funny, funny little person you are. My favorite bit:
"Then (sic) entire country (except for me and a few of my global capitalist business associates) saw Hillary for the feckless partisan wretch that she is and right then and there determined that the woman will never set foot in the White House again."
Would that be because the entire country was communicating to you via the secret decoder rings made by you and your global business associates?
hahahahahahahahahahaha
By the way did anyone see this comment story about Cindy Sheehan getting the boot...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183392,00.html
February 1st, 2006 at 9:35 pmWhen you stop a robbery, celebrate.
NEXT...
February 1st, 2006 at 9:36 pmExxon made 36 BILLION in PROFITS (15 BILLION from price setting). Do you want ''YOUR'' government giving them YOUR tax money to find alternative fuels ?
Come to think of it, as a math teacher, if you had something to say with respect to the the numbers, which I've looked at, it would be one thing. Instead you speak as a partisan ideologue. In fact, Democrats AND Republicans stopped the administration and the partisan extremist hacks from destroying the most successful government program in US history. For no other reason than giving Wall Street a windfall. That's quite an accomplishment. J.D Fisher is an idiot.
February 1st, 2006 at 9:39 pm#159,
Exactly. Would you want J.D Fisher teaching your kids math?
February 1st, 2006 at 9:41 pmCapitalist Society is crumbling just like Communism did 20 years ago.
The only type the people will accept is Socialism. That is... ACTIVE CITIZENS ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING AND BEING INVOLVED IN THEIR GOVERNMENT.
February 1st, 2006 at 9:41 pm#153.. that is not going to be a problem for democrats. Most people that are republicans dont want to get rid of SS. They know the democrats are the ones that will do anything to protect it and know that the democrats were chearing themselves for saving SS from bush and his stock market pals. The only republicans I have ever met that agrees with bush on SS are rich republicans. All the normal republicans with normal jobs like the idea of SS being there.
February 1st, 2006 at 9:47 pmGiddy,
I'm not a math teacher. The site is available yet again if you click on my name, so you can actually read it this time.
Like I said, Democrats (and Republicans) who blocked the privatization effort were right. But the boisterous applause at the SOTU address was politically stupid and immature. It can only be framed negatively.
I'm not advancing a position against Social Security, nor am I siding with the devil. Just calling stupid stupid.
Stupid.
February 1st, 2006 at 9:58 pmYou gave up your liberties, and Ike had told you to be vigilant... And you have not been.
Now your children and grandchildren will never let you forget what you did.
You instituted Fascism in AMerica.
Well done!
*clap*
"First they came for the Brown people, then the black, then then Gays, then the liberals, now the democrats.
Then they came for me."
February 1st, 2006 at 9:59 pmBush does not want average Americans to have any retirement with dignity > he wants people to work untill they drop dead! That was America before Roosevelt's New Deal and Social Security! Dubya is President Hoover reborn > a dumb fool who leads the nation into another Great Depression!
February 1st, 2006 at 10:25 pmThis only goes to show how immature these democrats are. It's like going back to middle-school.
February 1st, 2006 at 10:35 pmhen entire country (except for me and a few of my global capitalist business associates) saw Hillary for the feckless partisan wretch that she is and right then and there determined that the woman will never set foot in the White House again. The Donks are insane with rage, contempt and envy. 06 and 08 will see the end of the Democratic Party as we know it unless Clinton, Kennedy, Pelosi, Boxer, Dean, Kerry and a host of other “leaders†of the party all commit mass suicide after losing the elections.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 2:01 pm
first Norquist and Now, what this??
hen entire country (except for me and a few of my global capitalist business associates) saw Hillary for the feckless partisan wretch that she is and right then and there determined that the woman will never set foot in the White House again. The Donks are insane with rage, contempt and envy. 06 and 08 will see the end of the Democratic Party as we know it unless Clinton, Kennedy, Pelosi, Boxer, Dean, Kerry and a host of other “leaders†of the party all commit mass suicide after losing the elections.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 1, 2006 @ 2:01 pm
By GINA HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer
Wednesday, February 1, 2006
(02-01) 19:10 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) –
New Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito split with the court’s conservative Wednesday night, refusing to let Missouri execute a death-row inmate contesting lethal injection.
Alito, handling his first case, sided with inmate Michael Taylor, who had won a stay from an appeals court earlier in the evening. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas supported lifting the stay, but Alito joined the remaining five members in turning down Missouri’s last-minute request to allow a midnight execution.
Earlier in the day, Alito was sworn in for a second time in a White House ceremony, where he was lauded by President Bush as a man of “steady demeanor, careful judgment and complete integrity.â€
First Norquist Now Alito…I bet Anne Coulter is Frothing at the mouth.. IRI and M.AD as well
February 1st, 2006 at 11:26 pmCmon IRI leme see ya HOWL that Limbaugh 'EmotionaL' crumb cruncher whine.
What do you think of that IRI?
February 1st, 2006 at 11:28 pmare you and Anne Coulter Gonna Poison, (hypothetically speaking), him also?
get a life you liberal losers!....how's it feel to be in the minority in BOTH houses of Congress AND State Governorships, AND in State Senate and State Assembly houses! talk about a joke!....how's it feel to have 2 young supreme court justices nominated right in front of your faces!!...I hope you realize that your personal conduct (highlighted on websites like this one) directly contributes to the Republicans crushing you :) Keep it up cindy sheehan - keep embarrasing yourself and all your idiot friends :-)
February 1st, 2006 at 11:29 pm
February 1st, 2006 at 11:30 pm#
get a life you liberal losers!….how’s it feel to be in the minority in BOTH houses of Congress AND State Governorships, AND in State Senate and State Assembly houses! talk about a joke!….how’s it feel to have 2 young supreme court justices nominated right in front of your faces!!…I hope you realize that your personal conduct (highlighted on websites like this one) directly contributes to the Republicans crushing you :) Keep it up cindy sheehan - keep embarrasing yourself and all your idiot friends :-)
Comment by charles — February 1, 2006 @ 11:29 pm
The Police apoligized to Sheeham and even one o Bushes backers, or Grover, has dumped delay and said your boy Bush broke the Law.
Your anger shows your despair. Your Limabugh Code Words
and read the POST above yours BY me about ALITO.
February 1st, 2006 at 11:36 pmNow go cry back to your OTHER web sites, that you came in here calling names and left feeling uninformed
Things ive noticed,
February 1st, 2006 at 11:38 pmClinton-Sexual Antics=Impeachment!(because he lied!)& No I didn't vote for clinton. Clinton is a jerkoff.
Bush-Using fautly information to go to war=No Biggie!(even though I might call that lying when you give this info to the american public on national tv) Wire Tapping Americans=No Biggie! (because according to the attorney general, certain things in our law aren't worded a certain way)
Torture=No Biggie! Were not torturing! Were freedom tickling!! LOL Thanks D.S.
It's pretty funny that a republican president can lie, botch disasters, disregard any rights americans are supposed to be born with in the name of terrorism(which im sure the republicans would have no problems with if this pres was a democrat)
Support Imperialism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE CONSERVATIVES RULE ALL FACETS OF THE GOVERNMENT........YOU LIBS HAVE NOTHING...LOL!! CORRECTION - YOU HAVE THESE SILLY BLOGS...LOLOLOL!!!
February 1st, 2006 at 11:41 pmWHAT DO CINDY SHEEHAN AND OSAMA BIN LADEN HAVE IN COMMON (BESIDES UGLINESS)?
THEY BOTH HATE THIS COUNTRY!!
February 1st, 2006 at 11:44 pmWow! What wit and insight! Can you teach me how to think like you! And with a important vote right around the corner
February 1st, 2006 at 11:46 pmI can't wait to see what awaits you guys! If your not to busy tring to hide the rest of ol Jacky boy's money.
LOL LOL LOL!!!!!
If anything Charles, your demeanor in the post of assumes we are all liberals, in that you are wrong, your parroting Limbaugh Code words, about Tin Foil Hats, Liberal Losers, and all kinds of other 3 grade Dialectic of a Grown man, whom By the way has admitted to filling the Viewers with BS.
No go Listen to your Faux News and murdoch "Media"tainment.
and do try creating your own complete sentences, Charles, instead of standing on Rushes Half baked 'Research' and truth detectors, try forming your own opinion, go read the HR transcripts, Read the GAO reports, Read the Federal Reserve Flows, Read something, Sheesh, and use that Noggin of yours
for something better than running amok on the Internet Blogs, looking for some Person or thing youve allowed yourself to believe in.'
Let Me be very Clear, Rush Deals in 'ENTERTAINMENT'
You Know, Rush the Guy with a 'Truth Detector' in his head.
Saper Adue Charles
February 1st, 2006 at 11:47 pm#WHAT DO CINDY SHEEHAN AND OSAMA BIN LADEN HAVE IN COMMON (BESIDES UGLINESS)?
THEY BOTH HATE THIS COUNTRY!!
Comment by anon — February 1, 2006 @ 11:44 pm
The third grade Limbaugh Dialectic is noted, and ignored.
February 1st, 2006 at 11:49 pmSaper Adue Anon
WHAT DO GEORGE BUSH AND SADDAM HAVE IN COMMON??(BESIDES BEING UNABLE TO SPEAK ENGLISH) THEY THINK THERE PEOPLE SHOULD SURRENER ALL THERE RIGHTS TO THEM IF THEY THINK THEY SHOULD!!!!!
February 1st, 2006 at 11:54 pm#151 - "Honestly, time to go read a third grade history book. Our Founding Fathers were liberals." - unbelievable
******POP QUIZ - (no wikipedia for you) -
Discuss the differences and similarities of CLASSICAL liberal v. "progressive" liberal
You got your teaching credential from where???? A night school advertised on the back of a matchbook???? You might want to check the geography of San Diego - you might be surprised how many canyons we have here. You don't teach writing skills do you??? Your inability to see anything allegorical shows a real lack of imagination.
Re: your vulgarity - picking up where Six pack and Fat Papa left off?? You're about as imaginative as a thong.
February 1st, 2006 at 11:55 pmThis Tuff Guy Busch Will Save YA from them Terrorists, after ALL bremer did pay them Off with that 8 billion.
February 1st, 2006 at 11:55 pmLook At this TUFF guy, 'Bushkakis'
Mr 'Bushkakis'
Post 170 charles > you are the loser! Bush lovers are the most pathetic fools on this planet! Laugh it up you dunce for Dubya > lol.
February 1st, 2006 at 11:59 pmYou got your teaching credential from where???? A night school advertised on the back of a matchbook???? You might want to check the geography of San Diego - you might be surprised how many canyons we have here. You don’t teach writing skills do you??? Your inability to see anything allegorical shows a real lack of imagination.
Re: your vulgarity - picking up where Six pack and Fat Papa left off?? You’re about as imaginative as a thong.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — February 1, 2006 @ 11:55 pm
Hahahaa Now its San Diego..
February 1st, 2006 at 11:59 pmIRI is more like Carmen San Diego
Human-animal hybrids blog...
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:09 am"******POP QUIZ - (no wikipedia for you) -
Discuss the differences and similarities of CLASSICAL liberal v. “progressive†liberal mighty aphrodite"
Oh sweetie, you're barely coherent enough to type, let alone pretend to be either an authority or 'teacher' figure. But I forgive you, the weak of mind, body and spirit often believe they're invincible as you seem to. A better pop quiz is what are the differences and similarities between a CLASSICAL Conservative v. "Bush" Conservative.
You know it could fill a PHD, but since any such level of reason or scholarly effort would require a non-partisan brain to enact - I'll settle for a couple of simple sentences that embarrass you unwittingly as usual ;)
"You got your teaching credential from where???? A night school advertised on the back of a matchbook???? mighty aphrodite"
Oh pumpkin - you're clearly smart, but based on what I've read so far unbelievable has you trumped on all matters. She's more reasoned, more articular, has a better command of vocabulary and grammar. Don't get me wrong, clearly you're not stupid - you just say stupid things when your partisan brain kicks in. And I forgive you for your attacks on unbelievable. She deserves better sweetums, and she deserves a more social response - aren't you the 'guest' here after all?
"You might want to check the geography of San Diego - you might be surprised how many canyons we have here. You don’t teach writing skills do you??? mighty aphrodite"
Oh there you go again, saying bizarre things, and attack others when they correct your partisan comments. I forgive you though - clearly you're just threatened by a woman of unbelievable's superior intellect, charm and skills. I can understand how a partisan might be intimidated in that case - but I'm sure unbelievable would be incredibly nice to you if you treated her with more respect and integrity. You do know what integrity and respect mean don't you? I never know when partisan brains are at play.
"Your inability to see anything allegorical shows a real lack of imagination. mighty aphrodite"
Allegorical stories are virtually always examples of cultural norms pumpkin. To 'see' an allegory one must first be in on the 'inside culture' necessary to understand it. That's why allegory is taught to children of a culture in fairy tales like religious ones. Unfortunately some people can't separate allegory from reality, myth from history, or importance from inane. I have to say unbelievable doesn't strike me as that sort of person.
However the sort of partisans that become republican partisans often seem more to relate to allegory the life. I attribute it to childhood religious brainwashing that those who aren't as smart or talented as unbelievable (who received her dose according to her postings) weren't able to overthrow or overcome. Were you religiously indoctrinated at an early age? Taught the the earth was flat, and that donkey's can talk? Because that would explain your partisan ability to readily ignore facts and reality and to resort to allegory and fantasy.
But I forgive you. Clearly the brainwashing took, and you're living in the best and most capable reality you know how to. I'm sure you're a loving wonderful person in the right circumstances - too bad that woman won't participate in political discussions.
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:11 amCongressional Record: September 20, 2002 (Senate)
Page S8987-S8998
HOW SADDAM HAPPENED
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, yesterday, at a hearing of the Senate Armed
Services Committee, I asked a question of the Secretary of Defense. I
referred to a Newsweek article that will appear in the September 23,
2002, edition. That article reads as follows. It is not overly lengthy.
I shall read it. Beginning on page 35 of Newsweek, here is what the
article says:
America helped make a monster. What to do with him--and
what happens after he is gone--has haunted us for a quarter
century.
The article is written by Christopher Dickey and Evan Thomas. It
reads as follows:
The last time Donald Rumsfeld saw Saddam Hussein, he gave
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:12 amhim a cordial handshake. The date was almost 20 years ago,
Dec. 20, 1983; an official Iraqi television crew recorded the
historic moment.
The once and future Defense secretary, at the time a
private citizen, had been sent by President Ronald Reagan to
Baghdad as a special envoy. Saddam Hussein, armed with a
pistol on his hip, seemed "vigorous and confident,"
according to a now declassified State Department cable
obtained by Newsweek. Rumsfeld "conveyed the President's
greetings and expressed his pleasure at being in Baghdad,"
wrote the notetaker. Then the two men got down to business,
talking about the need to improve relations between their two
countries.
Like most foreign-policy insiders, Rumsfeld was aware that
Saddam was a murderous thug who supported terrorists and was
trying to build a nuclear weapon. (The Israelis had already
bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak.) But at the time,
America's big worry was Iran, not Iraq. The Reagan
administration feared that the Iranian revolutionaries who
had overthrown the shah (and taken hostage American diplomats
for 444 days in 1979-81) would overrun the Middle East and
its vital oilfields.
Regans BoY rummy and Saddam
And what else OIL?
Oh My , the "luberals" didnt Lie after all.
Now go have am ALito I mean Drama Mama moment IRI
Its OK we Know about Regans friends the Freedom Fighters
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:16 amAnd you supported them Dint ya IRI?
The Democrats behavior was pathetic & childish. There is a better way? ... We're listening? ... Time for Michael Moore to make a film "Democrats & Me" ... like that will ever happen.
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:17 amThe democrats better start behaving and at least show some respect to the Presidency if they ever want to see a Democratic president anytime soon, their pride of in not getting things done is just ammo for the Republican ad campaign.
Rumsfeld “conveyed the President’s
greetings and expressed his pleasure at being in Baghdad,â€
wrote the notetaker. Then the two men got down to business,
talking about the need to improve relations between their two
countries.
Like most foreign-policy insiders, Rumsfeld was aware that
Saddam was a murderous thug who supported terrorists
Cmon IRI Im diligently WAITING for you.
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:17 am#The Democrats behavior was pathetic & childish. There is a better way? … We’re listening? … Time for Michael Moore to make a film “Democrats & Me†… like that will ever happen.
The democrats better start behaving and at least show some respect to the Presidency if they ever want to see a Democratic president anytime soon, their pride of in not getting things done is just ammo for the Republican ad campaign.
Comment by Splinter — February 2, 2006 @ 12:17 am
Behave? Like Be corrupt and sell Arms to militant Groups Like delay? That Bush Lied about WMD, That Anne Coulter soeaks on TV about Poisoning a Judge, then Says it s JOke?
That Pat robertson ripped off 900 million from hardworking americans?
You Call these People, on Nightly TV and Radio Behaving?
No wonder Bushs' Policy approval is only 25%
Tell you What Splinter, SInce your Parroting the New ROVE Euphenism "Behavior" The Perhaps the 'Intellectuals" the Pundits of the NOT LIBERALS media, that you claim it is, YeT I never watch It.
You sir are GOING to have a very Hard time with the 'Behave' and 'Respect' angle. The Corrupt Congress and the President have to EARN respect.
Sorry Splint Ol Salt, Respect is Earned.
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:24 amSaper Aude
The source for the story is Wilma Cline, a former housekeeper and also alleged source of the drugs. She claims to have obtained Limbaugh 4,350 pills over a 47 day period. An unnamed source at the State Attorney's office confirmed the story to the New York Daily News.
Now thats a DRUGGED up REPUBLICAN KOOK!
you guys actually Listen to this MAN Still?
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:27 amTalk about YOUR moon-bats
By Michael Hirsh
Newsweek
April 4 issue - By many accounts, Custer Battles was a nightmare contractor in Iraq. The company's two principals, Mike Battles and Scott Custer, overcharged occupation authorities by millions of dollars, according to a complaint from two former employees. The firm double-billed for salaries and repainted the Iraqi Airways forklifts they found at Baghdad airport—which Custer Battles was contracted to secure—then leased them back to the U.S. government, the complaint says. In the fall of 2004, Deputy General Counsel Steven Shaw of the Air Force asked that the firm be banned from future U.S. contracts, saying Custer Battles had also "created sham companies, whereby [it] fraudulently increased profits by inflating its claimed costs." An Army inspector general, Col. Richard Ballard, concluded as early as November 2003 that the security outfit was incompetent and refused to obey Joint Task Force 7 orders: "What we saw horrified us," Ballard wrote to his superiors in an e-mail obtained by NEWSWEEK.
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Yet when the two whistle-blowers sued Custer Battles on behalf of the U.S. government—under a U.S. law intended to punish war profiteering and fraud—the Bush administration declined to take part. "The government has not lifted a finger to get back the $50 million Custer Battles defrauded it of," says Alan Grayson, a lawyer for the two whistle-blowers, Pete Baldwin and Robert Isakson. In recent months the judge in the case, T. S. Ellis III of the U.S. District Court in Virginia, has twice invited the Justice Department to join the lawsuit without response. Even an administration ally, Sen. Charles Grassley, demanded to know in a Feb. 17 letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales why the government wasn't backing up the lawsuit. Because this is a "seminal" case—the first to be unsealed against an Iraq contractor—"billions of taxpayer dollars are at stake" based on the precedent it could set, the Iowa Republican said.
Gee IRI another Republican, and missing money, and yet an AG thats not doing his JOB, thats stealing IRI, thats stealing TAX dollars IRI your TAX dollars Splinter
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:33 amShow respect for this president? The man was (s)elected president? The man who lied us into a war? The man keeps no promises he makes? The man who schemes against poor, old, children and sick? The man who would rob students to pay for tax cuts? The man who brought us the greatest debt, deficit spending, fewest jobs, bleakest future we have ever seen? At least when things were bad in the past, we had creative and courageous leaders who led the nation out of bad times, this guy is a pathetic loser, a gambler, a dry drunk, who never had to work in his life, who squandered every opportunity purchased for him, a frat boy who lived off his family name and fortune? The man who disrespects soldiers he sends to fight his battles, the man who disrespects the Constitution, who disrespects the law of the land? And you think we should respect him?
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:36 amYou are out of your mind.
Wilma Cline, a former housekeeper and also alleged source of the drugs. She claims to have obtained Limbaugh 4,350 pills over a 47 day period
Man thats about 96 pills a Day!
Or 4 pills every hour, 24hrs a Day, for 45 days.
OH yeah, Rush has a Truth Detector Allright, and a Tin Foil Hat to boot
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:38 amEarth To Neo-Kooks
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:39 amCome in Neo-kooks
mr ho need coffee mr ho lurv IRI
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:42 ammr ho be back IRI, Splinter Rush..
mr ho sorry if Neo-kooks get 'Limbo-motional' with caused by Neo-kooks irrational discourse
What is wrong with people when they turn down the opportunity to control their own retirement and leave it in the hands of the goverment.
It flat out amazes me that people would rather have congress continue to waste the surplus instead of having a personal account that they could pass to their children.
I am in a country of michael morons. . . .
February 2nd, 2006 at 2:18 amBecause its been done in Europe and it isnt working. The Plan Bush speaks of Takes it away from the Governent, and can you imagiine, a business such as Haliburton? Laws CAN be made to keep CONGRESS fingers out of the Basket, Given the current Corporate Lobbying, and the Corruption of these Senators. if you will, Have professed ignorance over and over,Yet to hand over SS at this point in TIME, UNDER BUSH is a Dead DucK
Foget about it, Lets ENFORCE SS LAWS to keep congress OUT of the KITTY
February 2nd, 2006 at 2:39 amHere is a snippet of Rush Limbaugh Transcript;
On his daily radio show, conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh declares: "We have alcoholics and drug addicts in our society, don't we? And what do we say about them? 'Well, they can't help it. Why, it's genetic. Why, they have a disease. Why, put one thimbleful of scotch in front of them and they can die.' We totally exempt them from any control over their lives, do we not? Some athlete will spend two years snorting lines of coke. 'He can't help it. You know, it's -- it's just -- it's not -- it's -- it's genetic. These people -- they're predisposed to having this addictive syndrome. They -- they can't help.' Yeah, like that line of cocaine just happened to march into the hotel, go up to the athlete's room and put itself right there in front of him on his blotter."
The Blatant Hypocrisy of this Adult, Rush, is Staggering. This One Statement, in and of itself is more than enough for me to not Listen to it. he makes many "Statements" or Opinions based on sheer speculation;
We Say About them? WTF does that mean? is that even english? A WE and a Them.
Continues; THEY have a Disease, THESE people..
This Man is Obviously Paranoid of 'Them' and Hes one of WE. How so does that Work IRI? you speak the 'Lingo'
If we are all THEM,, and Rush IS WE, yet Fears THEM, WTF??
Really Rush, What the feck are you or who speaking of THEM and WE?
This Pundit, Rush, this Paid Suka, to me, seems Delusional, Paranoid (45 Pills a Day would do it!!) AND A serious Hypocrite to Boot.
Lets just change a Few words of Rushs' Statement above;
Yeah, like that 4350 Pills of Oxycontin just happened to Roll into the Studio, go up
February 2nd, 2006 at 2:44 amBush Says Trust me,but dont take me literally
February 2nd, 2006 at 3:42 amAnd you Want Warrantless What?
get a life you liberal losers!….how’s it feel to be in the minority in BOTH houses of Congress AND State Governorships, AND in State Senate and State Assembly houses! talk about a joke!….how’s it feel to have 2 young supreme court justices nominated right in front of your faces!!…I hope you realize that your personal conduct (highlighted on websites like this one) directly contributes to the Republicans crushing you :) Keep it up cindy sheehan - keep embarrasing yourself and all your idiot friends :-)
Comment by charles — February 1, 2006 @ 11:29 pm
You do realise that, words like this have been said in pages and newspaper in 1930's Germany? Instead of Arabs and, I guess, homosexuals, they were targetting... Wait, no... It was them, and Jews, and many others.
How does it feel? How does it feel what? What did the people before you force you to do? Force you to respect rights, to allow women the right to vote and blacks the right to live. So now, you say "How do we like it"?
You are lauding the destruction of your own civil liberties at the expense of irrational fear and anger? How do we feel? You are fighting for the downfall of your country? How do you think that we feel?
I don't know what you were expecting out of all this? Big fat wads of cash and American Flags in every country? Do you NOT know what that is? Did you not study Rome? Did none of this sink in?
You have been attacked, judging by even the BBC to be an inside job, to spawn an out of control, "War on Terror" which, literally, wil be used to dupe YOU out of YOUR MONEY to pay for WAR which make the people who invest in WAR richer. Hell did it not even occur to anyone that NO STEEL BUILDING EVER was EVER brought down by fire. EVER? I mean, did you FAIL to notice that?
You will have to pay for it. Perhaps with a World War like Johnny Hitler... WE can call it World War Three, or "The War on Terror" When Terror becomes lets say.. A Country that never fired or attampted to fire a shot at you... Wait... Not that's happened... I believe that is what hte Nazi's were hanged for... Yeah Armed Aggression the UNited Nations called it. "The Supreme Crime" from which all other War Crimes are spawned. Which, incedentally, and ironically, was proved to be true. Wire taps, Torture, Kidnapping, Propoganda, Illegal Munitions etc...
War Reperations will likely bankrupt this country, Judging by the last time this occured, The War Crimes Tribunal at Nuremburg judging guilt and innocents for the Nazi's. I suspect the same will occur in this case aswell.
The World will hopefully be around after the war, whatever it's name, and can do this, and perhaps can finally have a United Nations, one that is more like the United Peoples of the world. We can stop this incredible death brought about by Empire Builders...
Like Nazi Germany, and the Republican United States.
The Declaration of Independence demands more from you. It demands that if you have the power to overthrow an illegal and unjust government, it is your duty to do so.
By all counts, the line left between King George and George Washington has not been crossed, until George W Bush.
February 2nd, 2006 at 5:06 amIRI, I'm an indepentent and I feel I have to respond to your clouse remarks about the Dems. Let me ask you something, WHY is it that it's ok for O'Riely to come up with sarcastic comments to something a Dem says but its "Sneering disrespect, and hate" when a Dem returns it?
I find this hypocrasy so infuriating. You Neo-Cons Bitch and complain and whine louder than anyone and when the other side expresses a disagreement in any way you call THEM the hateful ones. You know what, listen to yourself for once and get a clue. You scream persecution and and unfair treatment and you don't even bother to see that you are doing the exact same thing to everyone else.
People like you really make me sick to my stomache. The Dems actually spoke up for themselves and I'm proud of them for it. KEEP IT UP DEMS! FIGHT!
Quote below from IRI;
February 2nd, 2006 at 7:27 am"I saw it on a re-run and would say that this sarcastic democrat response over Congress’ failure to address Social Security entitlements (that will one day doom the Union), can only reinforce their image as the Party of sneering disrespect, and hate. This is how The Filthy Left will “confront the great issues before usâ€, and will “act in a spirit of goodwill and respect for one another.â€?"
#151 - “Honestly, time to go read a third grade history book. Our Founding Fathers were liberals.†- unbelievable
******POP QUIZ - (no wikipedia for you) -
Discuss the differences and similarities of CLASSICAL liberal v. “progressive†liberal
That's what you respond to? The emotional part of your brain is showing again...
Of course they were liberals. Seperation of church and state would NEVER be considered by conservatives who believe religion is an integral part of their existence - even at a governmental level.
Just because you don't have the intellect to understand it, doesn't make it untrue.
You got your teaching credential from where???? A night school advertised on the back of a matchbook???? You might want to check the geography of San Diego - you might be surprised how many canyons we have here. You don’t teach writing skills do you??? Your inability to see anything allegorical shows a real lack of imagination.
That's right, attack my job because I don't agree with you. Your desperation is showing Magda. It's apparent you have no real ammunition so you pick at the subjective aspects. Easier to avoid real debate that way. And we see through you.
Re: your vulgarity - picking up where Six pack and Fat Papa left off?? You’re about as imaginative as a thong.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — February 1, 2006 @ 11:55 pm
That's what those who've been bestest always say... "Oh, you didn't hurt me. I didn't care...". Liar. You care. Too much for your own sanity actually. And, yet again, we see it.
February 2nd, 2006 at 7:57 amJustice Alito casts his first vote
CNN Washington Bureau
Thursday, February 2, 2006; Posted: 7:53 a.m. EST (12:53 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) — In his first day on the job, Justice Samuel Alito broke ranks Wednesday night with the Supreme Court’s conservatives by refusing to allow Missouri to execute death-row inmate Michael Taylor.
Alito sided with five other liberal and moderate justices in rejecting a second request to allow the state of Missouri to execute Taylor.
http://www.cnn.com/ 2006/ POLITICS/ 02/ 01/ alito/ index.html
February 2nd, 2006 at 8:13 amWHAT DO CINDY SHEEHAN AND OSAMA BIN LADEN HAVE IN COMMON (BESIDES UGLINESS)?
THEY BOTH HATE THIS COUNTRY!!
Comment by anon #175
Wow...
Are these treasonous Bushite inbreds brilliant, witty, and articulate or what?
February 2nd, 2006 at 9:09 amThe Donks are insane with rage, contempt and envy. 06 and 08 will see the end of the Democratic Party as we know it unless Clinton, Kennedy, Pelosi, Boxer, Dean, Kerry and a host of other “leaders†of the party all commit mass suicide after losing the elections.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #12
I'ncomprehensible-R'idiculous-I'gnoramus,
Hope you reserved that condo in Cabo, cause after we retake the House and Senate your friends won't "recognize" you anymore...
OOOO'h sh*t, that's right...
You can probably only sell that '65 winnebago you live in for a max of what? $1500...
...and that's if someone takes pity on your treasonous inbred as*!
"...me and a few of my global capitalist business associates..."
hahahahahahahaha!!!! Yeah, right (wink, wink)
February 2nd, 2006 at 9:18 amAbout "human/animal Hybrids". Most importantly please understand humans ARE animals. It's the most basic of taxonomy: "Kingdom". Also, please be informed that currently, "hybrids" are only the most basic in nature, such as the use of a human insulin gene in yeast to produce the drug.
February 2nd, 2006 at 9:29 amIRI, I’m an indepentent and I feel I have to respond to your clouse remarks about the Dems. Let me ask you something, WHY is it that it’s ok for O’Riely to come up with sarcastic comments to something a Dem says but its “Sneering disrespect, and hate†when a Dem returns it? I find this hypocrasy so infuriating.
Comment by Karen Gosselin
Well Karen, I mean really. If you don't see the difference in O'Riely's quips during his television show, or Jay Leno's or any other "entertainer" and the ugly display we witnessed during an honored American tradition such as the State of the Union Address by supposed men and women of honor and respect that guide our country then, I just don't know what to say to you other than I don't think that you have though your question through. Try again and explain why the Democrats should be given a pass for disrespecting the President and our Country on live television seen across the globe by friends and enemies alike on such an occasion. Take your time, I won't be holding my breath.
February 2nd, 2006 at 9:53 amTry again and explain why the Democrats should be given a pass for disrespecting the President and our Country on live television seen across the globe by friends and enemies alike on such an occasion.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #209
Okay IRI,
I'll be your Huckleberry...
Why should YOUR president be disrespected?...hmmm...let's see now...
Bushiva:
...stole two elections...
...disregarded warnings from Clinton's National security personnel on imminent threat from bin Laden...(PDA ignored and 9/11 happens)...
...cherry picked intelligence to get us into illegal, unnecessary war costing American taxpayers hundreds of billions in mismanaged fraudulent dealings, and the world tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of lives...to avenge the deaths of roughly 2000 in towers, for profit, oil, strategic military location...
...made Americans/(Bushiva especially) the enemies of the civilized world, unsafe borders, raised nuclear threat...
...failed to mobilize help for Gulf Coast hurricane victims, lends lofty rhetoric but no concrete results to rebuilding and victim relief and resettlement...
...spies on American citizens illegally...
...and whenever you see his (or his criminal co-conspirators') lips move...
LIES...LIES...LIES
...need I go on?
February 2nd, 2006 at 10:14 amTry again and explain why the Democrats should be given a pass for disrespecting the President and our Country on live television seen across the globe by friends and enemies alike on such an occasion.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #209
Im not a Democrat, and BUSH hasnt, thru lying, gained my respect. Yet you respect a Man whom STands on a Podioum IRI and fills you WITH Garbage?
Why would you do that IRI?
Do you Resepct Limbaugh and his Rmapant Drug Use?
Thats a NO.
DO you Respect a Man that LIES to take a country to war, for Nation Building Purposes? When he specifically Stated he would not do so? Im Supposed to RESPECT a Man, just because of a Title, That Lies oft and Repeatedly?
Tha Delay is a Respectable Man?
You Have to Be joking IRI. Then Prison, by your Logic, is full of Respectable People?
February 2nd, 2006 at 10:35 amOkay IRI,
I’ll be your Huckleberry…
Why should YOUR president be disrespected?…hmmm…let’s see now…
Comment by big papa
The issue isn't what you'd say or what O'Riely would say but the demeanor of our elected officials during that address. You don't have to respect the President but you should respect the office. It was clear to me the Donks do not respect Bush's office or even their own.
Isn't that what was said about Clinton, respect the office? If I recall the Republicans pretty much kept it zipped when Clinton was in office even when he didn't. That's the point, everything else and what you wrote is bullshit.
February 2nd, 2006 at 10:42 amugly display we witnessed during an honored American tradition such as the State of the Union Address
Yes it WAS an UGLY Display IRI, it looked more Like a ROVE campaign speech, the Same Tired Talking Points, which to this day, Bush has done nothing, or just the Reverse of WHat he said.
You are one of the Last Hardliner neo-cons to, apparently, see the Bushco decpeption.
This Wasnt a State of The Unions Address, it was ROVE, and it was nothig bt Rhetoric. Their was NOT oen thing in that Speech that was worth its Salt. And that IRI, is whats stuck in your Craw. Bush Flopped. Its not the 'LIberals' you forever Parrot, its not the Democrats, its the Cabal of Crazies, as Colon correctly calls this 'Anti-christian' group of LIE-o-cons.
The Same Wars of Bush sr. Rehashed again, Old Photos, Old Intelligence, OLD Talking Points. Old Old Old. Old Books, Old war Plans (1993 Cheney Netanyahu 'A clean Break')
Wolfowitzs Team B Nuclear Scenarios, Where Wolfowitz played the part of The Hard Liner Psycho. Wlfowitzs "Encoded" intelligence has proved to be false. A mislead.
Just Like the Bush Cheney Admin.
I ask you IRI if Bushs policy approval is only 25%. that, by youtr confused logic, means that 75% of the 'Liberals' dont agree with Bush Policy?
Now that ought to mae you really Paranoid,
February 2nd, 2006 at 10:48 am75% Liberals
And Now IRI thinks hes a Globalist Capitalist?
Then Sir, if this is True you are a Marxist, A Das Kapitalist.
Have you IRI also Read
Marxs (actually his name is Moses Mardacai Marx Levy and wrote In 1844 he wrote the book
'A World Without Jews'
Do you IRI, follow this Belief of Kapitalism?
I am a Poor Man IRI, yet, as you Say I try Diligently.
Sure I do, I have to Work, and cant afford to Sit around and study Politics all day as you can perhaps. Yet Im not about to Roll over and Play dead. Surely you can understand that.
I am much more 'diligent' than you shall ever know.
Yet because of your Percieved "Bias" you may never know one of the nicest people, because you think that a 'Liberal' is
BLack, or Poor, or on Welfare, or a Drunk Drug User. Or An Anti-Capitalist such as Noam Chomsky.
In this IRI you are again very Wrong. Im not a Liberal, nor Am I black, or Brown.
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:07 amtry Again though, the 'POOR' people here find you Amusing
IRI, you want respect for "the office" of the President, but not for the Constitution he's sh*t all over? Yeah you clearly have your priorities in order... Explains the mess in the rest of your way of thinking.
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:07 amOne of the biggest concerns of the pundits was that the dems will take back the house in the midterm elections. Doing so would mean that the house would then have the power to open the investigations that the right has been ignoring. They also contemplated the possibility that the chimp would be held trial for high crimes and treason (impeachment). This came from the commentators and analyses on Faux news the nite of SOTUS.
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:14 amI am much more ‘diligent’ than you shall ever know.
Yet because of your Percieved “Bias†you may never know one of the nicest people, because you think that a ‘Liberal’ is
BLack, or Poor, or on Welfare, or a Drunk Drug User. Or An Anti-Capitalist such as Noam Chomsky.
mr ho, my father was just like IRI in that regard - hate everyone who is different. His hate wound up eating at him so much that he developed cancer in his mid-fourties and died by age 59. I am convinced that internal hate generates interal destruction, including cancer. IRI will wonder why his god has forsaken him when he finds his self-destructive attitude eventually affecting his health just as it has his social life and marriage. And all the while never understanding that rage only produces more rage, and there is no god to meddle.
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:17 amIRI, you want respect for “the office†of the President, but not for the Constitution he’s sh*t all over? Yeah you clearly have your priorities in order… Explains the mess in the rest of your way of thinking.
Comment by unbelievable
All that assumes facts not in evidence except in the deluded paranoid mind of anti-American zealots. Frankly, I don't give a damn about what you respect. I was talking about the slimy behavior of the Donk's first team. They failed in their responsibility to render respect to our Republic.
Mr. ho: I find nothing in you convoluted mumbling that I can respond to. Please put down the bong and talk American.
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:19 amI-R-I is employed by Karl Rove to post disinformation on thinkprogress threads!
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:30 amMr. ho: I find nothing in you convoluted mumbling that I can respond to. Please put down the bong and talk American.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 2, 2006 @ 11:19 am
Because you only look for things to Hate IRI.
I have tried time and time again, thru questions, to get you to define your version of a 'Liberal'
You speak alot about Clinton, whom I dont hold much resepect for either. Now IRI define a Liberal so the people here, might have a Clue as to WHAT your always so Damn angry about.
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:35 am#212- I sure am glad you said "if". If your idea of "keeping it zipped", referring to the Republicans, is having a 5 year, multi-million dollar partisan investigation, constantly talked about by RW pundits, with the GOP ranting "Rule of Law" endlessly, for a lie about sex, then yeah, they kept it zipped. Sheesh. Talk about "BS". You are a PRO!
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:38 amAnd Now IRI thinks hes a Globalist Capitalist?
Then Sir, if this is True you are a Marxist, A Das Kapitalist.
Have you IRI also Read Marxs (actually his name is Moses Mardacai Marx Levy and wrote In 1844 he wrote the book
‘A World Without Jews’
Thats Convoluted Mumbling? A fact?
You stated you were a Capi-com, not I.
You called me diligent, not me you.
You say Marx, I showed you WHO marx REALLY is.
Thats CONVOLUTED?
Nice try IRI.
Yet You wont answer my Liberal Question
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:39 amCmon IRI
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:45 amCome to the 'Street' and talk your Racist Globalist Capitalist Trash IRI of Your Communist Economics, and Engels. You Know as well As I DO that Marxism creates Socialism and Revolution. Its a Communist Design. Yet Another Jew writing Books against Jews.
Today you Call it Capitalism or Privatization IRI.
Marxism is a Sickness, A virus unto a Democratic Society.
IRI you cant answer my questions because their is no partisanship in them, no groupings of Bias. Bush is simply a Person, as Is Rove.
I care Not what Politico Faction they claim to be. Nor do I care how much wealth or perceived power thay have. This is Why you cannot find anything to 'Argue' with me About.
I ask again, what is a 'Liberal' In the Mind of IRI?
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:48 amDID or DID not Marx aka Levy Write these Books IRI?
Is or is NOT, IRI, 'Das Kapitalism' the same as 'Capitalism'?
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:52 amAll that assumes facts not in evidence except in the deluded paranoid mind of anti-American zealots. Frankly, I don’t give a damn about what you respect. I was talking about the slimy behavior of the Donk’s first team. They failed in their responsibility to render respect to our Republic.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 2, 2006 @ 11:19 am
That's not an answer to my question. It's a rambling in response to not having an answer.
Respect goes both ways. If you can't give it, then don't ask for it.
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:48 pmNow IRI define a Liberal so the people here, might have a Clue as to WHAT your always so Damn angry about.
Comment by mr ho — February 2, 2006 @ 11:35 am
He's mad because his wife divorced him. He just takes it out on us. Much like the littel boy who got a spanking, so he went and kicked the dog. Too bad for him taht his family owns a pit bull :)
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:50 pmNice too see Republican's talking about being respectfull
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:53 pm(you know like how polite they were when Clinton was the one lying to the public) when one of the biggest party contributers is in the midst of being arrested and now it appears certain e-mails in the white house about the CIA leak have now somehow disappeared... Yeah the republican's are such a respectfull moral bunch, but in the end im sure somehow it'll end up being the liberal media's fault.
SUPPORT IMPERIALISM!!!!
You don’t have to respect the President but you should respect the office. It was clear to me the Donks do not respect Bush’s office or even their own.
If I recall the Republicans pretty much kept it zipped when Clinton was in office even when he didn’t.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #212
Da*n I'ntolerant-R'epugnant-I'dolator,
The way you inbred Bushite traitors rewrite history (daily) is mind boggling!
I don't know which SOTU you were watching (if you did) but there was Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Dem "leadership" trailing faithfully behind the criminal Bushiva as he entered the chamber...
...there were dutiful, smiling, glad handing, back slapping democrats shaking hands and smooching with the criminal Bushiva as he entered...
...those same Democrats applauded, and sat silent as the criminal Bushiva told lie after lie after filthy right wing scumbag treasonous LIE!
It was infuriating!
...and WHERE were you (you filthy redneck swine) when the inbred Republiscum House managers attempted to destroy Bill Clinton's FAMILY, career, and life?
Yeah right, you were "respecting the office"...I get it...
You inbred bi*ches and basta*ds gave as good as you're now getting...and we MAY have three more years to give it to ya...
hopefully not... but 'til then....
...STOP WHINING you al Cracker beeotch-YOU WON- take it like the animal fu*king traitor you are...
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:53 pmI-R-I is employed by Karl Rove to post disinformation on thinkprogress threads!
Comment by Jay Randal #219
Jay,
...don't read more into it than there is...
IRI is a trifling, unemployed, gun loving, suicidal, animal "loving", tobacco chewing, treasonous, heathen, trailer park redneck,
...posing as the intellectual equal of people far better than he could ever imagine himself...
February 2nd, 2006 at 1:01 pmTry again and explain why the Democrats should be given a pass for disrespecting the President and our Country on live television seen across the globe by friends and enemies alike on such an occasion.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #209
Oh... Sure... Because the ENTIRE WORLD knows he's a fake. He's just a front for the a military business cartel who wishes to use ideology to trick people into allow him to hold a coup of your nation.
I mean... Give it up... Terrorists are out there... But it's the idea that is the problem. The Idea is "The Empire of the West will kill all us Arabs as they have in the past unless we stop them"
Go ahead.. What are you doing to stop it? You have an Empire, you kill everyone you meet and intimidate everyone else.
The world will not rest until your leaders are brought to trial for the WarCrime of Armed Aggression.
February 2nd, 2006 at 1:11 pmHe’s mad because his wife divorced him.
Comment by unbelievable #227
unbelievable,
o'h no love, you're mistaken...
...she'd never divorce him...
...she takes his government check...
...straight to the strapping young, handsome, muscular, black and latino aspiring rappers across town...
...and in return they allow her to kneel, supplicate her desires and eventually service them...
...IRI pays dearly...
February 2nd, 2006 at 1:12 pmYeah lying about sex in the white house is soooooooooooo
February 2nd, 2006 at 1:18 pmmuch worse then lying about intelligence,spying,neglecting
disasters,leaking sensitive info, no big deal right!?
Oh yeah, so it must have been fake republicans on tv and radio freaking out about clinton's bullshit. And I guess the screaming and yelling about his impeachment and his secret death squads(LOL)killing people didn't happen.
You guys really don't feel the need to use these things
called records or facts do you?!
SUPPORT IMPERIALISM!!!
All that assumes facts not in evidence except in the deluded paranoid mind of anti-American zealots. Frankly, I don’t give a damn about what you respect. I was talking about the slimy behavior of the Donk’s first team. They failed in their responsibility to render respect to our Republic.
Mr. ho: I find nothing in you convoluted mumbling that I can respond to. Please put down the bong and talk American.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 2, 2006 @ 11:19 am
Talk American? Protect the Constitution is Un-American?
And Buddy... I mean really... You, by all scholoarly accounts are losing your republic. Rome and Germany and Englad and France have ALLLLLLLLL done the exact same thing...
"FEAR THE ENEMY" then "LET ME SAVE YOU" then "MARTIAL LAW"
If you are so blind as to not know history, I mean, common, understood, "you can look it up online you nitwit" history.
Can you not read it, how can you be so ignorant to it. It's like you WANT an Empire? If you do.. Why?
Are you white and want to kill a brown people? Is that where this bigorty and asininity comes from?
Please, we just want to know.
And also, before you freak out, I'm not from the Empire, I'm from a Country not part of the American Empire.
I'm from a Rebel Country. You know, like in Star Wars... You guys got the lightly armoured army that "looks impressive". with your big ships and such.
I'm with the countries that will ally together to fight you like in World War II.
Except this time YOU get to play the Nazi's. Then you can say to your children:
"I was a proud member of the Republican Party..." and then you grandson can say "But dad, weren't they like the Nazi's who rounded up all the Arabs and tortured and murdered hundreds of thousands around the world?"
Then you will see the comparisons between the Nazi's and yourselves... but unfoprtunately, you are too close now to see it, and too baffled by bullshit.
February 2nd, 2006 at 1:23 pmCmon IRI
Come to the ‘Street’ and talk your Racist Globalist Capitalist Trash IRI of Your Communist Economics, and Engels. You Know as well As I DO that Marxism creates Socialism and Revolution. Its a Communist Design. Yet Another Jew writing Books against Jews.
Today you Call it Capitalism or Privatization IRI.
Marxism is a Sickness, A virus unto a Democratic Society.
Comment by mr ho — February 2, 2006 @ 11:45 am
Actually... Socialism is spreading fast.
Because it's the peoples best way to be respresented and have a say.. And not to allow the rich to rule. The Rich should never be allowed to rule again. They only punish and hurt the have nots for more money and "progress"...
Progess for economics is the exact reverse of progress for people... This is where things start getting confusing.
I see the Bolivian revolution as the start of possibly the best chance to remove us from the yoke of Imperial Capitalist oppression.
Communism... Turned into a dictatorship... with dreams of empire...
Capitalism... Turned into a dictatorship... with dreams of empire...
Socialism.... . . . . So far so good?
The common people must have the ability to affect the government NONVIOLENTLY.
If you do not give them that door, they will make a violent window.
February 2nd, 2006 at 1:29 pmI-Right-I:
If I recall the Republicans pretty much kept it zipped when Clinton was in office even when he didn’t.
Yeah, but you're floridly psychotic, and your hallucinations don't count for more than a pile of fetid bat guano. We that live in the real world know what happened. You know, things like "He's not my President". Not to mention "KKKlinton", "Hitlery", and comments about Chelsea by His Flatulence Rush. Hey, you RW foamers are still using the "Hitlery" stuff....
Cheers,
February 2nd, 2006 at 2:48 pmI wonder why Democrats couldn’t block Alito when Bush’s approval rating is just 39%? That should worry the left.
Comment by Innocent Lite — February 1, 2006 @ 3:26 pm
The answer to this is as plain as the coke under junior's nose. Congress does not represent the views of the American people. Our elected officials do not act as representatives of their constituents, but rather as whores, selling their vote to the highest bidder. The Repugs vote dick in ass with their leader and sugardaddies. The majority of Americans support choice, civil liberties and civil rights, and yet a justice who believes in none of these was confirmed by our "elected representatives". Amazing, and disgusting. Its time to take our fucking country back. 9 months, the Christocracy's days are numbered.
February 2nd, 2006 at 2:49 pmIts time to take our fucking country back. 9 months, the Christocracy’s days are numbered.
Comment by wicker man
You are as wrong about what is mainstream in this country as your idiot Donk masters. It is the godless heathen liberals whose days are numbered. I'm looking forward to the shock, disbelief and denial of the Filthy Left when the Donks fall further behind in 06 and die on the vine in 08.
You are going to be tempted to resort to violence when it happens. Don't do it. Living under the thumb of your Christonazi conservative betters is preferable to what we'll do to you if you take to the streets and start breaking things. You heard it here first.
February 2nd, 2006 at 3:22 pmRE #238
I can see where the venom for you on this board comes from iri. Good to see you hold up the conservative party line of rebuttal, "no its not, you're wrong, so there". Classic. Take a step outside your back door, experience the world beyond your trailer park. Have an independent thought once in awhile, you'll find it refreshing. Though the confusion will likely tempt you to resort to violence on yourself. In which case, by all means, give in.
On second thought, stay in denial, keep spewing your hatespeech and conservative talking points. The look of shock and awe on your faces in November will be all the more satisfying.
February 2nd, 2006 at 3:45 pmI can see where the venom for you on this board comes from iri.
Comment by wicker man
HA! I know. I'm pretty good at what I do.
Good to see you hold up the conservative party line of rebuttal, “no its not, you’re wrong, so thereâ€. Classic.
Most of the time there isn't anything to rebut if you'll so kindly notice what your friends are actually saying. That is, nothing.
Take a step outside your back door, experience the world beyond your trailer park. Have an independent thought once in awhile, you’ll find it refreshing. Though the confusion will likely tempt you to resort to violence on yourself. In which case, by all means, give in.
Oh ouch, that was some stinging venom you just spewed. Wow.
On second thought, stay in denial, keep spewing your hatespeech and conservative talking points. The look of shock and awe on your faces in November will be all the more satisfying.
Dream on buddy boy. The fact is I'm thinking about starting a support group for the good looking widows of liberal losers who offed themselves because they couldn't take another minute of conservative majority rule after the next election. I need a catchy name for it though. Any suggestions?
February 2nd, 2006 at 4:03 pm"Most of the time there isn’t anything to rebut if you’ll so kindly notice what your friends are actually saying. That is, nothing."
Spoken like a true, ignorant conservative. Dissent doesn't exist, people who are dissenting are wrong (unpatriotic, unchristian, unkempt, etc etc etc). I disagree with their points, therefore their points are wrong and invalid. It must be nice to live in your black and white world (though ideally i'm sure you'd prefer all white, entendre intended).
Don't bother responding, instead just let us know which episode of O'Reilly or Limbaugh you're planning to ditto and we'll get your mature, enlightening retort from the original source.
February 2nd, 2006 at 4:12 pmAnd in case you feel like continuing your rampage, remember, a war of words on the internet is like a race in the special olympics, win or lose, you are still retarded.
February 2nd, 2006 at 4:14 pmIRI has no goals and no life. He likes to try to make others feel even worse than himself. Misery loves company. Unfortunately for IRI, progress is beginning and true colors are being shown. And wow, the repubs didn't take long to screw things up.
February 2nd, 2006 at 4:19 pmHmmm....
For lack of a label, I'll call myself an "independent". I need to address IRI - I actually respected some of your views until I got further along in the blog. Sort of like my feelings on our current administration.
Lure people in, and sugar them until things don't go your way, or until you get caught. Then lash out, and create larger problems to cover up the ones you consider lesser (what's a little lie, right? It's just a war). Sprinkle some catch phrases and try to cover your hate... what does that give you? ;)
Yes, Clinton lied, and he's a deadbeat for that. But no one died when Bill Clinton lied. Lose a family member in the war, IRI, then get back to me. The suicide bomber that killed my cousin believed in something that brought forth death - the far right believes in this war that brings forth death. One is clouded by religion, another, clouded by money and hiding behind religion.
Republicans do not fear the Democrats, yet an election is right around the corner. I would fear the rest of the world if, God forbid, this administration is not held accountable for their crimes to humanity.
My 2 cents - thrown into the fire - burn away. :)
February 2nd, 2006 at 6:40 pmMr. ho: I find nothing in you convoluted mumbling that I can respond to. Please put down the bong and talk American.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 2, 2006 @ 11:19 am
The funniest part of that is you typing out the words "Mr. ho". Cracks me up...
You know that American is not a language, but a nationality, right? In America, Americans speak English.
February 2nd, 2006 at 7:22 pmI need a catchy name for it though. Any suggestions?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 2, 2006 @ 4:03 pm
Someone beat you to it - it's called N.O.W.
February 2nd, 2006 at 7:31 pmYou know that American is not a language, but a nationality, right? In America, Americans speak English.
Comment by unbelievable
The English would take exception to that.
February 2nd, 2006 at 8:08 pmSomeone beat you to it - it’s called N.O.W.
Comment by unbelievable
Ah hem....I said good looking widows. I did not say man hating muff divers with a face only another man hating muff diver could love.
February 2nd, 2006 at 8:11 pmIRI has no goals and no life. He likes to try to make others feel even worse than himself. Misery loves company. Unfortunately for IRI, progress is beginning and true colors are being shown. And wow, the repubs didn’t take long to screw things up.
Comment by progressive and proud
Hi PP. I only try to make leftwingfucktards feel worse than myself. It's only fair.
February 2nd, 2006 at 8:13 pmHmmm….
For lack of a label, I’ll call myself an “independentâ€. I need to address IRI - I actually respected some of your views until I got further along in the blog. Sort of like my feelings on our current administration.
Comment by Independemusic
Thanks. Take what you like and throw the rest away. I'm easy. But I understand that some of my more radical made for loser-blog views might rub some people the wrong way and for that I apologize without even knowing which ones you're talking about.
Lure people in, and sugar them until things don’t go your way, or until you get caught. Then lash out, and create larger problems to cover up the ones you consider lesser (what’s a little lie, right? It’s just a war). Sprinkle some catch phrases and try to cover your hate… what does that give you? ;)
I'm not really sure what or who you are talking about but the old bait and switch wasn't invented by your first drug dealer.
Yes, Clinton lied, and he’s a deadbeat for that. But no one died when Bill Clinton lied.
Oh...please....not that little ditty. What do you mean no one died? A lot of people died when Clinton lied and it's my fear that his greatest death toll is yet to come. He gave the Red Chinese a 20 year jump in their ability to make war upon the USA. Don't start that shit with me.
Lose a family member in the war, IRI, then get back to me. The suicide bomber that killed my cousin believed in something that brought forth death - the far right believes in this war that brings forth death. One is clouded by religion, another, clouded by money and hiding behind religion.
Sorry about your cousin may he rest in the arms of angels. Do him the honor of discovering what it was he died for then get back to me.
Republicans do not fear the Democrats, yet an election is right around the corner. I would fear the rest of the world if, God forbid, this administration is not held accountable for their crimes to humanity.
I can tell you are sincere but I can tell you are young and lacking in the wisdom that can only come from years. I'm going to allow the "crimes of humanity" nonsense to slide as I don't feel the need to go over one more time who the real criminals are in this world. Besides, you momma didn't give you to me to raise.
My 2 cents - thrown into the fire - burn away. :)
I grok that the feather will do you more good than the flame so request denied.
February 2nd, 2006 at 8:27 pmI was just happy to see a human-chimp hybrid on a mission to stop the making of more human-chimp hybrids. Is Bush patented? Because he oughta be.
Cornelius the ape scientist is fine for the distant future when apes rule men, but for now he would just scare the children every time he goes to the market.
He couldn't live in the South, that's for sure. I think human-animal hybrids prefer the big city anyway.
February 2nd, 2006 at 8:40 pmHey unbeliveable! Since you know so much about the english can you teach it to your president? Please!?
February 2nd, 2006 at 10:05 pmSay it with me now Mr. President "Nu-cle-ar" and "Arm-i-dillo"
Ah hem….I said good looking widows. I did not say man hating muff divers with a face only another man hating muff diver could love.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 2, 2006 @ 8:11 pm
Oh please, have you actually been to a NOW meeting? You'd find out how wrong you are.
For years I've been telling my single guys friends to go take art or cooking classes because a lot of divorced and single women do. None of them listen to me. You should, for once.
February 3rd, 2006 at 7:39 amHey unbeliveable! Since you know so much about the english can you teach it to your president? Please!?
Say it with me now Mr. President “Nu-cle-ar†and “Arm-i-dilloâ€
Comment by Guedo — February 2, 2006 @ 10:05 pm
Guedo, you know what they say about teaching old dogs new tricks? Well, that was meant with normal dogs in mind, not retarded ones. Yale and Harvard should be ashamed.
February 3rd, 2006 at 7:40 amThanks. Take what you like and throw the rest away. I’m easy. But I understand that some of my more radical made for loser-blog views might rub some people the wrong way and for that I apologize without even knowing which ones you’re talking about.
IRI, is that you? The sensitive, human side isn't normal. Did you bang your head recently?
February 3rd, 2006 at 7:43 amOh please, have you actually been to a NOW meeting? You’d find out how wrong you are.
The organization is practially defunked. They can't scrape together more than a handful for a bra burning these days. And yes, I have seen some. U G L Y
For years I’ve been telling my single guys friends to go take art or cooking classes because a lot of divorced and single women do. None of them listen to me. You should, for once.
I can't draw a straight line and I don't need a cooking class. I can cook and do it all the time. It's funny though that all those divorced women are in cooking classes. Had they taken that cooking class before they probably wouldn't be divorced. HA!
Comment by unbelievable
February 3rd, 2006 at 11:44 amFor years I’ve been telling my single guys friends to go take art or cooking classes because a lot of divorced and single women do. None of them listen to me. You should, for once.
Comment by unbelievable #253
c'mon unbelievable,
You know full well that...
...the ONLY way you're going to get IRI involved in any social gathering where any hint of amorous coupling might occur is if there are defenseless sheep involved...
...pigs also acceptable in a pinch though...
February 3rd, 2006 at 1:02 pmthe ONLY way you’re going to get IRI involved in any social gathering where any hint of amorous coupling might occur is if there are defenseless sheep involved…
Comment by big papa
That's right. And only if I'm drunk on my ass. Kinda like the last time your old lady gave you a little when she was drunk on her ass....or was is crack?
February 3rd, 2006 at 1:59 pmthe immaturity in here is unbelievable.
February 3rd, 2006 at 2:07 pmi understand the heated debate over the issues but when you start to bring in someones mother, lady, brother....grow up. that is stupidity and shows nothing more than your weakness.
February 3rd, 2006 at 2:13 pmThe straight single men I know who love to cook aren't in unbelievable's address book, book club or art class. When a friend of Mr. Aphrodite asked me for a GOOD place to meet good looking, intelligent women - I told him to join our counties Republican Club. I told him he'd meet nice LADIES with wonderful humour who didn't look to be offended by everything "male" (unlike waaaaaaaayyyyyy too many Donk Club members.)
February 3rd, 2006 at 3:14 pm[...] For those of you who were unable to watch Bush’s State of the Union last Tuesday, our president was thrown off base when a large portion of congress applauded his statement on social security: “Congress did not act last year on my proposal.†From Think Progress: When President Bush first launched his campaign to privatize Social Security last year, just 39 percent of Americans approved of how he was handling the issue. A year later, that number has dropped to 35 percent. [...]
February 3rd, 2006 at 5:03 pmthe immaturity in here is unbelievable.
Comment by BS
Yes, yes it is. What's your point?
February 3rd, 2006 at 6:01 pmWhen will you Dems learn to aim at the fire instead of aiming at the smoke when your house is burning???? Here in Holland we have the same thing: conservatives from the countryside voted a retard into office. This retard is (as could be expected) performing poorly. He is now in his second term. The liberals overhere are VERY quiet. They don't engage in useless shadowfights, instead they slowly but steadily create the circumstances that will enable them to hit the bastard when it hurts: on election day.
February 3rd, 2006 at 9:01 pmMy advice: don't try to reason with poor SOBs like iRi, try to convince other, less illiterate members of your society to make the right choice next time.
People all over the world would be very grateful.
or was is crack?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #258
Illegitimate-Repugnant-Inbred,
"or was i(t) crack?"
...very GOOD crack indeed...
...I know, you miss her...
...we'll send her back to you when we're done...
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i understand the heated debate over the issues but when you start to bring in someones mother, lady, brother….grow up. that is stupidity and shows nothing more than your weakness.
Comment by BS #260
BS,
We've come to the conclusion that since IRI is here merely for "entertainment", we should allow ourselves to be "entertained"...
If YOU on the other hand have some serious issue YOU would care to discuss I'm sure there is no shortage of feedback to satisfy your need...
...as for what IRI and I have, well, just close your eyes and read on past it...
..."he ain't heavy (intellectually speaking), he's my enemy"...
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My advice: don’t try to reason with poor SOBs like iRi, try to convince other, less illiterate members of your society to make the right choice next time.
People all over the world would be very grateful.
Comment by dutch #264
dutch,
We learned that six years ago...
February 4th, 2006 at 11:59 amMy advice: don’t try to reason with poor SOBs like iRi, try to convince other, less illiterate members of your society to make the right choice next time.
People all over the world would be very grateful.
Comment by dutch
Advice from a guy in a country and part of the world where the society is dying of self inflicted wounds? Thanks, but no thanks. You can keep your paganism, homosexuality and drug culture as long as the Muslims let you but when the shit hits the fan don't come knocking.
You've become pathetic and irrelevant. I'm embarrassed to admit my surname is somewhat common in your shit hole of a country.
February 4th, 2006 at 1:22 pmYou can keep your paganism, homosexuality and drug culture as long as the Muslims let you but when the shit hits the fan don’t come knocking."
All I have to say is, you're an idiot. Oh wait, go fuck yourself as well, with that arrogant comment you made.
February 4th, 2006 at 3:38 pmHopefully, this guy will be knocking on you're door.
February 4th, 2006 at 4:08 pmI can’t draw a straight line and I don’t need a cooking class. I can cook and do it all the time. It’s funny though that all those divorced women are in cooking classes. Had they taken that cooking class before they probably wouldn’t be divorced. HA!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 3, 2006 @ 11:44 am
Every thing must be literal with you... sheesh... the point isn't to learn to draw or cook, but to try something that interests you that you've never done before, partly - the main idea is to get out and meet new people. Who cares if you can't draw or already know how to cook (most people who take cooking classes know how to cook, they're just learning new recipies). That's not the point. I'm telling you where I've seem large numbers of straight women, actively learning something new, and open to meeting people. But hey, you wanna be obstinate, whatever. Don't say I didn't try...
February 4th, 2006 at 6:00 pm…pigs also acceptable in a pinch though…
Comment by big papa — February 3, 2006 @ 1:02 pm
So Aphrodite, Randy and Tracy are what draws him here, then?
February 4th, 2006 at 6:01 pmThe straight single men I know who love to cook aren’t in unbelievable’s address book, book club or art class. When a friend of Mr. Aphrodite asked me for a GOOD place to meet good looking, intelligent women - I told him to join our counties Republican Club. I told him he’d meet nice LADIES with wonderful humour who didn’t look to be offended by everything “male†(unlike waaaaaaaayyyyyy too many Donk Club members.)
Comment by mighty aphrodite — February 3, 2006 @ 3:14 pm
I don't want to know the people you know. I prefer human beings.
Besides, what you described is not who you people are.
And if you consider Ann "Sounds like nails down a chalkboard when it speaks" Coulter good looking or intelligent, you need to make an emergency appointment with the eye doctor. And stop driving...
February 4th, 2006 at 6:06 pmdon’t want to know the people you know. I prefer human beings.
Comment by unbelievable
That's a typical hate filled response from a Walking Dead Leftist. "If you are not like me you are not human." That makes you a Nazi does't it. Yes, yes it does. You're a Nazi. I told you you were. This is what you gave up the Church for? Way to go.
February 4th, 2006 at 6:37 pmHopefully, this guy will be knocking on you’re door.
Comment by Crazy Anarcho-Syndicalist
I think Commander Cool has his hands full in Mexico to bother too much with us up here. Hell, I know the guy is a ratbastardcommie mofo but I'd almost root for him if he overthrow that shit hole of a country just South of me.
I feel sorry as hell for the Mexicans. I've always said that our official policy ought to be to round up the illegal aliens in this country, pay them, arm them and send them back to take over Mexico from the elitist despots who have destroyed the country. I'd bet I could get 70 to 80% of Americans behind that plan.
And we wouldn't have to stop there!!! Hell, then we could arm the Negroes and send them back to take over Africa, then the Irish to Ireland, the Ornamentals to wherever they came from. The USA would rule the world through our minority citizen soldier proxies. USA! USA! USA!
February 4th, 2006 at 6:49 pmI’m telling you where I’ve seem large numbers of straight women, actively learning something new, and open to meeting people. But hey, you wanna be obstinate, whatever. Don’t say I didn’t try…
Comment by unbelievable
Sorry, no liberal fat women for me thanks. That's what we've got the Black guys for.
February 4th, 2006 at 6:52 pmThat’s a typical hate filled response from a Walking Dead Leftist. “If you are not like me you are not human.†That makes you a Nazi does’t it. Yes, yes it does. You’re a Nazi. I told you you were. This is what you gave up the Church for? Way to go.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 4, 2006 @ 6:37 pm
Stop projecting your hate onto me. I don't hate anybody. No one is worth the energy and effort. Certainly not you. But I do find your holier-than-thou breed annoying, and as a result, do not care to spend my limited time on this planet with annoying people.
If anyone is hateful it's a bunch of hypocrites who claim to love but instead condemn everyone who is unlike them to a Hell that doesn't even exist. That's Nazi like, not people with a live and let live, but don't hang around me mentality.
February 4th, 2006 at 8:59 pmSorry, no liberal fat women for me thanks. That’s what we’ve got the Black guys for.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 4, 2006 @ 6:52 pm
Don't act like such a dipshit. This isn't a partisan grouping. It's people from different walks of life. And I used to do this all the time when I was a conservative.
Your loss. But apparently no one else's.
February 4th, 2006 at 9:01 pmAnd we wouldn’t have to stop there!!! Hell, then we could arm the Negroes and send them back to take over Africa, then the Irish to Ireland, the Ornamentals to wherever they came from. The USA would rule the world through our minority citizen soldier proxies. USA! USA! USA!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 4, 2006 @ 6:49 pm
And clearly, you'd go back to Kindergarten (in 1933 Berlin).
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February 5th, 2006 at 12:26 amI-Dumbass-I,
All of you Conservatives make no sense. How come you talk
about liberal elitists. Well, look at the Republicans, they have elitist written all over them. Who subsidizes corporations with billions uhhhhh?? Conservatives. Who signed NAFTA AND FTAA?? Conservatives. What did those agreements lead to. American jobs going overseas, and cheap labor in mexico, right? Yet, all of you blue collar people vote republican.
(Sarcasm)
Oh, wait that's right, the gays!!! That's our number one problem, algayda, where they offer pilates and try to recruit the youth into their evil lifestyle!!!! (Sarcasm)
Our "Amerikkkan" government is the problem.
Stop showing your one-sided ignorance, your nasty racism, and your nationalism(facism). You are only making yourself and this country look like a bunch of idiots. Like these people.
February 5th, 2006 at 2:36 amCrazy,
That actually is IRI in the bottom photo...
USA! USA! USA!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 4, 2006 @ 6:49 pm
February 5th, 2006 at 7:40 amAdvice from a guy in a country and part of the world where the society is dying of self inflicted wounds? Thanks, but no thanks. You can keep your paganism, homosexuality and drug culture as long as the Muslims let you but when the shit hits the fan don’t come knocking.
You’ve become pathetic and irrelevant. I’m embarrassed to admit my surname is somewhat common in your shit hole of a country.
Comment 266 by I-RIGHT-I — February 4, 2006 @ 1:22 pm
This is exactly what I mean. iRi hopes to lure me in to
a useless discussion. No point in trying to correct his adolescent views, as that will only lead to other "statements" that, if written by sane people, would be insulting. It's something like a mad dog barking. No matter what you do to make the dog calm down, it's fear will only increase.
The view into your society from overhere in Europe is
February 5th, 2006 at 11:52 ambecoming very grim. Decisions made by your government (especially on environmental issues, think climate change) weigh heavy on the quality of life on the rest of the planet. That's why I am taking the liberty of expressing my concern.
It seems to me that you will have to stoop to the same cynical attitude as your opponents to win the next presidential election. They will continue to do everything that's in their power to steal votes, bribe, blackmail, and what have you, just to get the result they want. If you don't show the same determination, you will lose again. What are you going to do about it? Wait and see what Hillary will come up with?
Comment by Crazy Anarcho-Syndicalist#279
Comment by unbelievable #280
LMAO
hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
This picture of IRI is priceless...
February 5th, 2006 at 1:24 pmI just picked up "The Culture of Fear"... Why Americans are afraid of the wrong things: crime, drugs, minoritites, teen moms, killer kids, mutant microbes, plane crashes, road rage and so much more.
One of the back cover critic quotes says "A sound intellectual alternative to Prozac".
I'm guessing IRI holds every single one of the perceptions that this book will point out as exaggerated and mindless. Explains his irrational hatred for everything he's been sold to fear.
February 5th, 2006 at 1:26 pmThe view into your society from overhere in Europe is
becoming very grim.
Comment by dutch #281
dutch,
Then could you convince your government to get together with a group of friends (a "coalition of the willing")...
...and you all "LIBERATE" us from the criminal Bushite junta?
...afterwards, we'll take care of our inbred traitors
(I-R-I et al.)...
...we'll turn them over to the Negroes and fat liberal women...
February 5th, 2006 at 1:37 pmExplains his irrational hatred for everything he’s been sold to fear.
Comment by unbelievable
The only thing I'm afraid of is a beautiful woman with a come hither glance. Prozac and bourbon take care of the rest.
February 5th, 2006 at 1:49 pmThe only thing I’m afraid of is a beautiful woman with a come hither glance. Prozac and bourbon take care of the rest.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 5, 2006 @ 1:49 pm
Well then you should stay away from me... :) Though, in your case, the look would be more of a repulsed one than anything else.
Who isn't on Prozac these days? Hmm... well, people who don't believe in fairytales, invisible idols, and the boogey man, for starters. I have a friend who was eating those things like candy. His doctor said he'd be on them for life. So I gave him my copy of "Ishmael" to read. That was 3 years ago. Now he's off the medication, meditates, left Corporate America, votes Democrat, left the Catholic church, and is actually happy. Try it:
http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~miles/works/Ishmael.html
February 5th, 2006 at 2:56 pmsat there for a minute, then I said, "I'm trying to figure out what this has to do with saving the world."
Ishmael thought for a moment. "Among the people of your culture, which want to destroy the world?"
"Which want to destroy it? As far as I know, no one specifically wants to destroy the world."
"And yet you do destroy it, each of you. Each of you contributes daily to the destruction of the world."
"Yes, that's so."
"Why don't you stop?"
I shrugged. "Frankly, we don't know how."
"You're captives of a civilizational system that more or less compels you to go on destroying the world in order to live."
"Yes, that's the way it seems."
"So. You are captives - and you have made a captive of the world itself. That's what's at stake, isn't it? - your captivity and the captivity of the world."
-Ishmael, Daniel Quinn
February 5th, 2006 at 2:59 pmWell then you should stay away from me… :) Though, in your case, the look would be more of a repulsed one than anything else.
Comment by unbelievable
Not likely. I'd let you do a little around the finger twisting to satisfy your ego and then pull a reverse so quickly you'd swear it was your idea. The way I operate it takes at least two years to become repulsed. Unless you're exceptional in every way it never gets that far. I might be up for a long weekend. Mexico in February rocks and I'm due for some fun. Send pic and latest STD tests to: I-RIGHT-I@ivotedforbush.com
February 5th, 2006 at 7:53 pmNot likely. I’d let you do a little around the finger twisting to satisfy your ego and then pull a reverse so quickly you’d swear it was your idea. The way I operate it takes at least two years to become repulsed. Unless you’re exceptional in every way it never gets that far. I might be up for a long weekend. Mexico in February rocks and I’m due for some fun. Send pic and latest STD tests to: I-RIGHT-I@ivotedforbush.com
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 5, 2006 @ 7:53 pm
Considering I'm smarter than you, I doubt it. Besides, I already told you, I don't care enough to be emotionally involved. And I've been repulsed since day one :).
I know about guys like you. Never get attached. And never let them catch you. I like to argue. You like to argue. I'm good at it. You get an E for effort, occasionally... And it's even better if there's some chemistry. So why ruin a good thing? You'd just fall in love. They always do. I get bored easily. And I've already done Mexico in February, three times (the diving is awesome there).
If a Navy pilot who was captain of the U.S. rowing team couldn't catch me, then maybe no one can...
February 5th, 2006 at 10:54 pmIf a Navy pilot who was captain of the U.S. rowing team couldn’t catch me, then maybe no one can…
Comment by unbelievable
You're confusing "catch" with "catch and return". Sorry, but not every woman is a keeper. Who could live with a liberal touchy feely non meat eating feminist anyway?
February 6th, 2006 at 9:43 amYou’re confusing “catch†with “catch and returnâ€. Sorry, but not every woman is a keeper. Who could live with a liberal touchy feely non meat eating feminist anyway?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 6, 2006 @ 9:43 am
Nothing confusing about a marriage proposal.
You live with your mother...
February 6th, 2006 at 5:04 pmNothing confusing about a marriage proposal.
You live with your mother…
Comment by unbelievable
I'm sure he was flattered....
You are your mother and that's why they run.
February 6th, 2006 at 5:36 pmI’m sure he was flattered….
You are your mother and that’s why they run.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 6, 2006 @ 5:36 pm
Flattered that he asked me to marry him? Flattery doesn't work that way. And he wasn't the only one. I don't like predictable. It's boring. And if I find one who isn't, I would say yes.
I'm not like my mother. She taught me not to be a subservient woman with no options in life who has to tolerate a mediocre marriage. She wanted me to have more. Why do you think I'm such an overachiever?
February 6th, 2006 at 5:59 pmWhy do you think I’m such an overachiever?
Comment by unbelievable —
I think all you have achieved is middle age and a bitter taste in your mouth.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:19 amI think all you have achieved is middle age and a bitter taste in your mouth.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 7, 2006 @ 10:19 am
I think you're talking about yourself... Buy that convertible sports car yet?
My last boyfriend was a 26 year old genius. Bitter isn't even a possibility.
When (if) you ever manage to learn how to live in the present, instead of squandering it away for a future moment of fairytale nonsense, or a buck, you'll understand why I wouldn't trade places with you for all the oil in Tex-ass...
February 7th, 2006 at 5:31 pmMy last boyfriend was a 26 year old genius. Bitter isn’t even a possibility.
Comment by unbelievable
What happened, did you break him?
Bitter yes, I'd say. If I recall the guilt of loveless sex drowns out the little bit of afterglow about the time breakfast rolls around. I know all about it. Squandering though is a apt word you've just got it backwards Sugar.
Heb 11:24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;
February 7th, 2006 at 6:32 pmHeb 11:25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
Heb 11:26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
What happened, did you break him?
That's funny. I didn't want to live in San Francisco anymore. I grew up in the South where people are friendly, and cereal doesn't cost $6 a box. He was in Cambridge (during his last semester) when I decided to quit my job and start my move back east. I left a month before he was scheduled to come back to interview there. He took it personally, when it wasn't, and you know how once started, that canyon moves you so far apart you can't fix it. The real irony is that 5 months later he took a job back east because a guy with a Harvard education and poor parents can't afford SF either.
Bitter yes, I’d say.
Then you are reading me incorrectly. I've got a very dry sense of humor. And after reading Dante's Inferno in college, I have a great intolerance of those who take advantage of those anyone or thing that is weak or defenseless. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy-go-lucky. The kids laugh at me a lot (not always because I intended it that way... but there are some teachers, even if they set their own hair on fire and were dancing around the room in a cartoonish panic that no one would even crack a smile around for fear of tehir great wrath... they are all the pious ones, of course. You Xians don't get to have much fun...
If I recall the guilt of loveless sex drowns out the little bit of afterglow about the time breakfast rolls around. I know all about it.
I see you checked your email...
Squandering though is a apt word you’ve just got it backwards Sugar
Heb 11:24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter;
Heb 11:25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
Heb 11:26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 7, 2006 @ 6:32 pm
The risk of all that being wrong and me squandering away this life - my only life is far too great to gamble. Because, if you are right, the god will understand. But if you are wrong, you've suffered for nothing. No thanks. I'm so much happier now without that suffering ideology that I can no longer go back. And, most importantly, I don't want to. I don't fear what you fear. Obviously...
February 7th, 2006 at 7:14 pmThe risk of all that being wrong and me squandering away this life - my only life is far too great to gamble.
Your Roman upbringing has left you with a false impression though I must admit I had the same idea once and even St. Augustine famously said something to the effect that he wished God would take away his sins (sexual) but not just yet. I can't experience it for you but only say that a life lived with the love of Jesus Christ in one's heart and mind is not squandered. The sins that you imagine make life worth living like addictive drugs only satisfy for so long and then you come down just like the morning after we both know so well.
Because, if you are right, the god will understand. But if you are wrong, you’ve suffered for nothing. No thanks. I’m so much happier now without that suffering ideology that I can no longer go back. And, most importantly, I don’t want to. I don’t fear what you fear. Obviously…
Comment by unbelievable
You have it backwards according to Pascal of course I don't believe God accepts that kind of worship. But the fact remains if I'm wrong I've really lost nothing of value, if I'm right you've lost to a degree unimaginable.
February 8th, 2006 at 9:27 amYour Roman upbringing has left you with a false impression though I must admit I had the same idea once and even St. Augustine famously said something to the effect that he wished God would take away his sins (sexual) but not just yet.
So before you were a Jesus freak, what did you believe?
Sexual desire is human. It annoys me to no end that your religion makes people feel guilty about being human. It's like expecting you to feel guilty about having whatever color eyes you have (demon red, I imagine :). It's just not reality based. What is genuine is to teach people self-respect, as no one with self respect exposes themselves to unprotected casual sex. And yet so many Christians have pre-martital or extra-marital sex all the time... clearly gods and Hell are no deterents to what I consider self-demeaning sex. I've never had a one night stand. I respect myself too much.
but only say that a life lived with the love of Jesus Christ in one’s heart and mind is not squandered.
But it's an illusion that you have created. You are the source of that feeling as a result of your perception. I don't like how religion requires you to take the best parts of humanity and give them away to some mythical magical being, instead of appreciating our humanity for our ability to love, care, protect, etc. We are capable of so much goodness. And, though you don't believe me, I find it's even better when it's 100% free will to have the choice and pick love.
The sins that you imagine make life worth living like addictive drugs only satisfy for so long and then you come down just like the morning after we both know so well.
I've never done drugs either. My father was a functional alcoholic, so I'm one of those people who isn't big on drinking or recreational drugs as a result. My high on life comes from the beauty of our universe, in knowing that today, I taught someone something useful, and that I like myself. That's enough for me. I'm not what you think I am supposed to be. And I'm not sure why you do.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:37 pmYou have it backwards according to Pascal of course I don’t believe God accepts that kind of worship. But the fact remains if I’m wrong I’ve really lost nothing of value, if I’m right you’ve lost to a degree unimaginable.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 8, 2006 @ 9:27 am
My father was quite fond of that saying. And for many years, it was enough of a deterent from questioning the system. I've been an Atheist since 2003. This summer I ran across this counter-argument:
Pascal's Wager is quite simple, and superficially appears to be a strong and compelling argument for theism.
The Wager
Pascal's Wager can be presented in many different forms, usually something like this:
"If you believe, and God exists, you gain everything. If you disbelieve, and God exists, you lose everything."
It amounts to hedging your bets.
The worst case for the theist is no afterlife, the worst case for the atheist is an eternity in Hell. You can see why this appears to be a potentially convincing argument - it is sensible to choose the least-worst case.
The flaws
The most obvious problems with Pascal's Wager are:
How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g. what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem". If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's Wager, how could you possibly choose between them? After all, many religions are quite specific that they are the One True Religion, and not any others. Jesus Christ said "I am the way, the truth and the light. None shall come to the Father except through me." [emphasis added] and no doubt most other religions make similar claims. If a Christian considers the Wager as strong support for his faith, surely he must accept that it is equally valid for all other religions when presented to himself?
God is not stupid. Won't He know that you're just trying to get a free ride into Heaven? How can you sincerely believe in a God simply out of convenience?
If there is no God, you have still lost something. You have wasted a good portion of your life performing the various devotional rituals, attending Churches, praying, reading scripture and discussing your deity with His other followers. Not to mention giving your hard-earned money to the church, wasting your intelligence on theological endeavours and boring the hell out of people who really don't want to hear your Good News.
Can you get away with just sort of generally believing in a Supreme Being, without specifically believing in one particular Deity? Probably not - God will still know what you're up to. Also, many Gods are quite particular about how they should be worshipped. Many born-again Christians will tell you that the only way to Heaven is through accepting Jesus Christ as your personal saviour - nothing more and nothing less. General-Deity-Belief and being nice simply won't do. Many people believe that all the different religions are merely alternative routes to the same destination. Nice and tolerant (if a little warm'n'fuzzy) though this may be, there is no valid reason to accept this stance over the fire-and-brimstone fundamentalist position : if the fundies are right, then the un-Saved liberal theists are in just as much trouble as the nonbelievers.
Few, if any, atheists disbelieve in deities out of choice. It's not as if we know the god is really there, but somehow refuse to believe in it (for example, see if you can choose to truly believe that Australia does not exist). Most atheists disbelieve simply because they know of no compelling evidence to suggest that any sort of god exists. If you want an atheist to believe, show her some good evidence, don't just say it's in her best interests to believe even if there is no god. A person cannot choose to sincerely believe in something, just because it is pragmatic to do so. Sure, you could say all the right prayers and attend church regularly, but that is not the same thing as actually believing, and any God worth his salt would obviously see straight through that.
It is quite insulting. It amounts to a thinly veiled threat, little better than saying "Believe in my God or He'll send you to Hell" (in fact, this is often the form it is presented in). Also, the theist making this threat assumes that the atheist believes there is a Hell or a God to send her there in the first place. If you don't believe in Hell anyway, it's not a scary thing to be threatened with - a bit like saying "If you don't start believing in unicorns, one will trample you to death while you're sleeping." Who would be worried by that?
It is often self-refuting, depending on the person's description of God. If you believe that God will forgive anyone for anything, or judge people purely on how they lived their life and not what they believed, or that everyone gets to Heaven regardless (unless maybe they were genocidal cannibal serial killers), then the Wager is meaningless. You might as well say "Believe in God, or you'll... erm... go to Heaven anyway." In such a case, it doesn't make a scrap of difference whether the person believes or not.
Pascal's Wager is hopelessly flawed. It sounds good at first, but poke it with the spike of reason and it quickly deflates, letting out all the hot air.
An alternative - The Atheist's Wager
This seems to be much more reasonable, both for atheists and theists :
"It is better to live your life as if there are no Gods, and try to make the world a better place for your being in it. If there is no God, you have lost nothing and will be remembered fondly by those you left behind. If there is a benevolent God, He will judge you on your merits and not just on whether or not you believed in Him."
(And if God is not benevolent, he's gonna git ya whatever you do!)
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/wager.html
February 8th, 2006 at 4:45 pmOne other point... my goal in talking about my beliefs is tolerance. I don't need or want to convert you or anyone else to my way of thinking. I just want for people to recognize that I am not an Atheist to be immoral. I am an Atheist because I believe in myself to be a kind, loving and respectful without fear of retribution. And because I do not see proof of a god - or need for one. Or are you just supposed to dislike and degrade me because I must be wrong no matter how I live to the contrary of what Christianity defines me as? I don't understand.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:56 pmOr are you just supposed to dislike and degrade me because I must be wrong no matter how I live to the contrary of what Christianity defines me as? I don’t understand.
Comment by unbelievable
I don't dislike you because you're an atheist. I don't know you. I don't like some of your ideas and I absolutely hate some others but you personally don't occupy a place in my heart other that small little place I keep all the love I can muster for God's human creation. People are very unlovely and that is one reason God commanded us to love one another.
He had to command it because otherwise we would hate without conscience, like the Muslims do. As it is we can not obey that commandment without help. That is where Jesus Christ comes in. God has supplied the ethic and Christ through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit supplies the dynamic. I just don't have enough of that Spirit yet to overcome my hatred of the Filthy Left. I doubt I ever will. I doubt I'm supposed to.
The fear of God is more than just fearing Him because of His power and perfection. It also means that we love what He loves and we hate what He hates. He loves you, therefore I love you.
I'd love you even more if you sent that pic to I-RIGHT-I@ivotedforbush.com
February 8th, 2006 at 5:29 pmI didn't mean me personally, but what I represent - someone who is moral in spite of adhering to a code of morality supposedly bequeathed by an omniscient being for which their is not proof or involvment. Someone who chooses to be kind all on her own because she wants to, not because she is obeying or following. That kind of anomoly.
Which ideas do you hate? The ones about being nice to people, or helping those in need?
I guess we can just agree to disagree on religion. It's at the point I don't even like trying to have a conversation with you about it, becuase you misinterpret everything I say and then start preaching to me. I like to argue as well as you do, but this isn't arguing. It's you feeling attacked for your beliefs, when I'm not attacking, and me feeling belittled for mine when maybe you don't intend to - just want to share whatever you get out of it. Let's go back to arguing about politics.
I sent you that email a couple days ago. Did you check?
February 8th, 2006 at 10:00 pmI sent you that email a couple days ago. Did you check?
Comment by unbelievable
Yep, I checked that addy yesterday afternoon. Sorry, it must have got caught up in the span and deleted. You can send it again if want to. I-RIGHT-I@ivotedforbush.com
The addy has to be just like that.
February 9th, 2006 at 8:54 am[...] And remember just how proud Democrats were and still are to have blocked Bush’s move to destroy and eliminate Social Security. [...]
February 9th, 2006 at 2:10 pmYep, I checked that addy yesterday afternoon. Sorry, it must have got caught up in the span and deleted. You can send it again if want to. I-RIGHT-I@ivotedforbush.com
The addy has to be just like that.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 9, 2006 @ 8:54 am
What's to stop it from getting caught again and deleted again?
February 9th, 2006 at 2:53 pmWhat’s to stop it from getting caught again and deleted again?
Comment by unbelievable
I'll be more careful this time and not delete the email that offers a bigger and longer lasting erection.
February 9th, 2006 at 4:25 pmI’ll be more careful this time and not delete the email that offers a bigger and longer lasting erection.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 9, 2006 @ 4:25 pm
You know, being a pig is not funny either...
Check again.
February 9th, 2006 at 4:39 pmYou know, being a pig is not funny either…
Check again.
Comment by unbelievable
I thought that was funny....
OK, got it. In fact I got it yesterday but thought it was some sort of ad for an escort service. Really.
OK, let's say that's really you. Two things come to mind. First, your good looks explain why you're so self absorbed and into meaningless liberal claptrap. Second, you look to much like my ex wife for comfort. She liked to do that pouty lip glamour shot thing in the mirror all the time. One more thing...just to be sure...got any cheesecake? I know you Italian girls tend to have a weight problem.
February 9th, 2006 at 4:51 pmWhy must you stereotype everyone?
It is me. Those were the only professional photos I ever had taken. The posing was the photographer's direction. And any similarity to your ex-wife is coincidental. Though I'm sure you'll now hold that against me as well... you're so unyielding some times... sheesh...
I'm a couple years older than when they were taken, but we've already had that conversation. People still think I'm in my twenties and I'll be fourty the end of this year. Some people get lucky with genetics. I got lucky with a lot of things, but I also was unlucky with a lot of things too. Growing up with an angry alcoholic father who got cancer and withered for 12 years probably offset a lot of the lucky stuff. It's why I am down to earth, and very, very protective of those who are weak and defenseless. I repeatedly say that I was born into the wrong body. I shouldn't look like this. It attracts the wrong type of men - the ones who care about looks too much. But, I thought it was time to shatter your perceptions that smart, sensitive and independent women can't be sexy, because they are taught to be ego-centric. I was not. I was taught to put others ahead of myself to my own detriment. It's been the last few years of dealing with my codependency that have taught me to love and value myself first (which you are misreading, as usual).
I'm only half Italian. Not that it's true about all of us being fat anymore than it's true about all of us having big noses.
So there it is. Deal with it. And if you have the spine to do so, you can reciprocate. You have an email address so you don't have to post it here for someone else to run across and use against you. And I won't either. You may say that you don't know me, but you do enough by now to know that I like to play rough (verbally only), but that I wouldn't intentionally hurt anyone. Not even to Aphrodite, and I really don't like her.
February 9th, 2006 at 5:50 pmWhy must you stereotype everyone?
Comment by unbelievable
I don't think I do that (all that much)but let's face it, stereotypes are true (as a rule exceptions withstanding)
It is me. Those were the only professional photos I ever had taken. The posing was the photographer’s direction. And any similarity to your ex-wife is coincidental. Though I’m sure you’ll now hold that against me as well… you’re so unyielding some times… sheesh…
I've had a little experience with drop dead gorgeous women and frankly, none of them good. RA was something of an exception but then we did do the fall in love thing and that colors the experience though it doesn't change the final outcome. I loved her and she loved her more than me. Shit happens and even Hollywood hunks don't have what it takes to keep a beautiful self absorbed woman engaged in the trial of the mundane intricacies of being man and wife.....Damn, I'm good. Just not quite good enough to do the impossible.
I’m a couple years older than when they were taken, but we’ve already had that conversation. People still think I’m in my twenties and I’ll be fourty the end of this year. Some people get lucky with genetics. I got lucky with a lot of things,
In the second millennium I'm not prepared to say that a person blessed with extreme good looks is lucky. I'd be willing to bet we could find memoirs of beautiful women of the ages that curse their beauty. I know it's been a problem for me a time or two though the older I get the less I seem to be enamored by my own image in the mirror. I think it's just those crappy Red Chinese import mirrors.
but I also was unlucky with a lot of things too. Growing up with an angry alcoholic father who got cancer and withered for 12 years probably offset a lot of the lucky stuff. It’s why I am down to earth, and very, very protective of those who are weak and defenseless. I repeatedly say that I was born into the wrong body. I shouldn’t look like this. It attracts the wrong type of men - the ones who care about looks too much. But, I thought it was time to shatter your perceptions that smart, sensitive and independent women can’t be sexy, because they are taught to be ego-centric. I was not. I was taught to put others ahead of myself to my own detriment. It’s been the last few years of dealing with my codependency that have taught me to love and value myself first (which you are misreading, as usual).
Too deep for me. All I really want is a Moretti and a good bowl of pasta. If the cook happens to be an attractive beer and meatball toting goddess with a taste for a big ugly mean and totally Neanderthal liberal hating right wing truck driving (the Z's steering wheel didn't adjust high enough) alpha male with an ego bigger than his pecker then I'll just consider my fair due. The fact is I'm not looking because I know I'm full of shit and the girl I'm looking for I left at the altar when I was 23. Life sucks and then you realize it didn't have to.
I’m only half Italian. Not that it’s true about all of us being fat anymore than it’s true about all of us having big noses.
So there it is. Deal with it. And if you have the spine to do so, you can reciprocate.
Nope. We don't know each other well enough for me to give you any fine details. I've been a bad boy for a number of years and if you've looked for love in all the wrong places you probably already have my picture. But, we'll see. As it is I like you just the way you are. In fact I'm sorry that you sent your pic. It's possible you'll be pissed because I don't cut you the slack that you're used to. That's a good thing.
You have an email address so you don’t have to post it here for someone else to run across and use against you. And I won’t either. You may say that you don’t know me, but you do enough by now to know that I like to play rough (verbally only), but that I wouldn’t intentionally hurt anyone. Not even to Aphrodite, and I really don’t like her.
I like the goddess. For a non religious Jew she's got her stuff together. I bet she's not hard on the eyes either. Possibly that's something you two females can get together on. You could have a little mutual admiration society going. How cool would that be? OK...I admit...I'm thinking threesome. Sue me.
Hey, by the way...don't you know the losers are going to get a kick out of this? One more thing. Where are you and does SW Airlines go there. I'm thinking peaunt fare.
Spude...eat your heart out loser.
February 9th, 2006 at 8:35 pmI don’t think I do that (all that much) but let’s face it, stereotypes are true (as a rule exceptions withstanding)
You should go read some of your old posts. It’s all I’ve ever seen you do. I’ll concede that there are cultural similarities due to us being social animals – but that’s as far as I go on that train wreck. Most of my friends are the exceptions to your stereotypes. So, if anything your archetypes are the exceptions themselves, and not the rules. Most people are similar deep down. Unfortunately it‘s the shallow and superficial exterior upon which you are so hung up. And why nothing will ever satisfy you.
I’ve had a little experience with drop dead gorgeous women and frankly, none of them good.
I’m not drop dead gorgeous anymore. Even though times have changed, I am 39. Society no longer uses that label for women over 35. The silver hair is starting to sprout and I imagine there will be wrinkles at some point. Gravity is persistent, you know.
RA was something of an exception but then we did do the fall in love thing and that colors the experience though it doesn’t change the final outcome. I loved her and she loved her more than me. Shit happens and even Hollywood hunks don’t have what it takes to keep a beautiful self absorbed woman engaged in the trial of the mundane intricacies of being man and wife…..Damn, I’m good. Just not quite good enough to do the impossible.
Jesus Christ… Then why are you even talking to me like this? If there’s no hope, then why bother. You sound just like my ex-boyfriend. Underneath, that scared little boy who has been so badly burned in the past that he could only sabotaged the present because it was just so much easier than taking a risk.
In the second millennium I’m not prepared to say that a person blessed with extreme good looks is lucky. I’d be willing to bet we could find memoirs of beautiful women of the ages that curse their beauty. I know it’s been a problem for me a time or two though the older I get the less I seem to be enamored by my own image in the mirror. I think it’s just those crappy Red Chinese import mirrors.
I’m sure you are right. Humanity is a sad, sad species. We’ve evolved a consciousness, but not an ability to appreciate it. Silly monkeys, the lot of us all. But, you know, if you were ugly, you’d probably be a liberal… because then you’d understand what it’s like to have to fight for things. A tall, good-looking, white, American born man with a brain and a sense of humor is not likely to understand oppression. So, I say, that if you had the choice to be beautiful or ugly, you’d pick beautiful every time.
Here’s an option – if you don’t like the Chinese imports, then don’t buy them.
Too deep for me. All I really want is a Moretti and a good bowl of pasta. If the cook happens to be an attractive beer and meatball toting goddess with a taste for a big ugly mean and totally Neanderthal liberal hating right wing truck driving (the Z’s steering wheel didn’t adjust high enough) alpha male with an ego bigger than his pecker then I’ll just consider my fair due.
Pig.
The fact is I’m not looking because I know I’m full of shit and the girl I’m looking for I left at the altar when I was 23. Life sucks and then you realize it didn’t have to.
Then what are you doing? Feeling sorry for yourself and inviting me to the party? No thanks. I don’t do pity for people lying in the same beds that they themselves made. Deal with it and move on, before you find you’ve wound up with another regret. And no matter what you say, more often than not, we regret the chances not taken the most…
Nope. We don’t know each other well enough for me to give you any fine details. I’ve been a bad boy for a number of years and if you’ve looked for love in all the wrong places you probably already have my picture. But, we’ll see. As it is I like you just the way you are.
You’re not a bad boy. You just like to play one to assuage your fear. It’s one of my abilities. To see through the bullshit to the real person. It’s also one of my vices, because I always think it matters.
You don’t like me. You just like a challenge. And what bigger challenge than a liberal, vegan, tree-hugging Atheist? I don’t think you could find a puzzle with more pieces in it if you tried. And that’s what you like. I have nothing to do with it.
In fact I’m sorry that you sent your pic. It’s possible you’ll be pissed because I don’t cut you the slack that you’re used to. That’s a good thing.
Is that how it works with you? Want what you didn’t order, instead of what you did? Are you ever satisfied? It’s a serious question, and for once, instead of ignoring my questions, you could answer one. That mysterious crap is irritating. I know you like it. But I don’t. I like your humor (when it’s not demeaning), and the sensitivity inadvertently exposed in between the macho bullshit you espouse. Gregor genuinely believes you think women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
You didn’t give me any slack when you thought I was a hairy, unkempt lesbian. Why ever would I expect that to change now that you know I’m pretty? Especially when you know it’s the source of chemistry between us. That’s why people get bored or boring – they stop playing. Settle down and grow roots. How interesting would a game of chess be if both people always made the exact same moves each time? And yet, isn’t that what most people do? Grow lazy, fat and dull in relationships?
I like the goddess. For a non religious Jew she’s got her stuff together. I bet she’s not hard on the eyes either.
Then go ask her out. I’m sure she’s an easy catch.
Possibly that’s something you two females can get together on. You could have a little mutual admiration society going. How cool would that be? OK…I admit…I’m thinking threesome. Sue me.
So when you said you weren’t into two women at the same time, you were lying? Or are you making another joke? It’s so freaking hard to tell in here without the inclination of tone and the unspoken visuals.
Hey, by the way…don’t you know the losers are going to get a kick out of this?
Out of what? Us having a conversation? They already give me a hard time for speaking to you at all. And like that has ever stopped me. In fact, I recall defending you over that bitch incident… Though, I have to point out that this is the most real I’ve ever seen you, even though it’s still mostly encased in your tough-guy armor, because letting down your guard is yet another act that makes you feel guilty after the fact. But what men don’t seem to understand is how overwhelmingly attractive a big strong man being willfully vulnerable is. Why do you think so many women buy those trashy romance novels? You guys just make the mistake of being vulnerable to the wrong women while pushing the right ones away. It’s why I keep telling you that you have to start with friendship. Not lust.
One more thing. Where are you and does SW Airlines go there. I’m thinking peaunt fare.
Just one? I have a feeling there’s more than just one… :)
Nope. We don’t know each other well enough for me to give you any fine details. Besides, if you’re not looking then why do you ask? What is it you want – a fling? No thanks. I can do better than that. Not better than you, better than being your something to do because you have no other options. Sorry, I’m not that pathetic. And if this is your ego boosting, finger-wrapping thing that you mentioned, I’m so not feeling uplifted here.
Spude…eat your heart out loser.
Over what? I’m not a trophy. And considering most of these guys are married or gay, I doubt that they really care in the way you want them to.
February 9th, 2006 at 11:18 pmOver what? I’m not a trophy. And considering most of these guys are married or gay, I doubt that they really care in the way you want them to.
Comment by unbelievable
Spudge is probably married and gay. That was fun, let's do it again sometime.
February 10th, 2006 at 9:06 amThat was fun, let’s do it again sometime.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 10, 2006 @ 9:06 am
You mean like a second date? :)
February 10th, 2006 at 1:21 pmYou mean like a second date? :)
Comment by unbelievable
Only if you promise to leave your psychology book at home and eat a cheeseburger.
February 11th, 2006 at 11:07 amOnly if you promise to leave your psychology book at home and eat a cheeseburger.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 11, 2006 @ 11:07 am
Like you'd actually be paying attention to what I was saying, or eating...
February 12th, 2006 at 1:19 pmLike you’d actually be paying attention to what I was saying, or eating…
Comment by unbelievable
I'm a little bit out of practice but I know how the game is played.
February 12th, 2006 at 2:53 pmI’m a little bit out of practice but I know how the game is played.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 12, 2006 @ 2:53 pm
I recall you getting in trouble a couple months back for dating a couple women from your Bible study at the same time... That's not practice?
February 12th, 2006 at 5:25 pmrecall you getting in trouble a couple months back for dating a couple women from your Bible study at the same time… That’s not practice?
Comment by unbelievable
That's not dating.
February 13th, 2006 at 3:15 pmThat’s not dating.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 13, 2006 @ 3:15 pm
You didn't!
February 13th, 2006 at 6:00 pmGotta See This:
A Birdshot Pellet Has Migrated to The Heart of The Man Shot by Dick Cheney
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184846,00.html
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