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		<title>By: The Long Goodbye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Now I shall know you again, It may be useful</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-558873</link>
		<dc:creator>The Long Goodbye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Now I shall know you again, It may be useful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 07:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The creation of John Negroponte&#039;s job (Director of National Intelligence) in itself weakened the authority of the CIA director, yet the creation of Director of National Intelligence has less control over Pentagon&#039;s intelligence gathering apperatus. So because of the way DNI&#039;s job was defined in legislation contrary to the recommedations of the House-Senate Intelligence Committee accountabilty, breaking down barriers of communication and rapid response has been weakened. Yet the military has been given an incredibly free hand, to the point of acting outside of FISA law at the president&#039;s direction. Apparently the fringe right, ever faithful Bush lap dogs are trying to make the case that the military has always been involved with the CIA. As with most arguments made by Bush supporters they&#039;re cherry picking the facts. There haven&#039;t been any active duty military to head the modern era CIA, Sidney William Souers was active duty for about the first seven months after his appointment , but was relieved of active duty in July of 1946.(for key events in the evolution of the US intelligence community see here) Then there is the question of General Hayden&#039;s veracity. So far Hayden&#039;s record shows a tendency to cover for the administration at the expense of the rule of law ( if we are indeed at war isn&#039;t now the very time that devotion to the principles of democracy should be Hayden and his conservative supporter&#039;s guide, rather then misguided zealotry), Hayden Dodged Questions on Whether Spying Program Targets Political Opponents or Journalists   HAYDEN: Chris, this is focused on al Qaeda. The only justification we have to undertake this program is to detect and prevent attacks against the United States. We don&#8217;t have the time or the lawful authority to do anything except that. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The creation of John Negroponte&#39;s job (Director of National Intelligence) in itself weakened the authority of the CIA director, yet the creation of Director of National Intelligence has less control over Pentagon&#39;s intelligence gathering apperatus. So because of the way DNI&#39;s job was defined in legislation contrary to the recommedations of the House-Senate Intelligence Committee accountabilty, breaking down barriers of communication and rapid response has been weakened. Yet the military has been given an incredibly free hand, to the point of acting outside of FISA law at the president&#39;s direction. Apparently the fringe right, ever faithful Bush lap dogs are trying to make the case that the military has always been involved with the CIA. As with most arguments made by Bush supporters they&#39;re cherry picking the facts. There haven&#39;t been any active duty military to head the modern era CIA, Sidney William Souers was active duty for about the first seven months after his appointment , but was relieved of active duty in July of 1946.(for key events in the evolution of the US intelligence community see here) Then there is the question of General Hayden&#39;s veracity. So far Hayden&#39;s record shows a tendency to cover for the administration at the expense of the rule of law ( if we are indeed at war isn&#39;t now the very time that devotion to the principles of democracy should be Hayden and his conservative supporter&#39;s guide, rather then misguided zealotry), Hayden Dodged Questions on Whether Spying Program Targets Political Opponents or Journalists   HAYDEN: Chris, this is focused on al Qaeda. The only justification we have to undertake this program is to detect and prevent attacks against the United States. We don&rsquo;t have the time or the lawful authority to do anything except that. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=558873', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: A Veteran</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-541581</link>
		<dc:creator>A Veteran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 17:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a waste of bandspace on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a waste of bandspace on the internet.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=541581', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-440698</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I-WRONG-I

you still reading that Gary North Trash?

You want to abolish the Constitution right?
Create poor Farms?
Get rid of min wage? 

Comment by mr ho 

Mr. ho, you are not making sense, again.  I will gladly hand you your ass but first I must understand your point. Making up nonsense and putting words in my mouth will not get you the attention from me you desire. Kindly stay on (my)topic or STFU. Thank you Mr. ho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I-WRONG-I</p>
<p>you still reading that Gary North Trash?</p>
<p>You want to abolish the Constitution right?<br />
Create poor Farms?<br />
Get rid of min wage? </p>
<p>Comment by mr ho </p>
<p>Mr. ho, you are not making sense, again.  I will gladly hand you your ass but first I must understand your point. Making up nonsense and putting words in my mouth will not get you the attention from me you desire. Kindly stay on (my)topic or STFU. Thank you Mr. ho.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=440698', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mr ho</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-440526</link>
		<dc:creator>mr ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I-WRONG-I

you still reading that Gary North Trash?

You want to abolish the Constitution right?
Create poor Farms?
Get rid of min wage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I-WRONG-I</p>
<p>you still reading that Gary North Trash?</p>
<p>You want to abolish the Constitution right?<br />
Create poor Farms?<br />
Get rid of min wage?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=440526', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mr ho</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-440524</link>
		<dc:creator>mr ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Mexico and the Meskin peoples even though it is a shithole run by world class tyrants and crooks. But youâ€™re full of shit if you think you did anything but jump out of the pan and into the fire. That said Iâ€™m looking at some small villages on the West coast as possible retirement spots where I can paint nekkid Meskin womens and drink beer all day. Iâ€™ve almost raped and pillaged enough to retire early. Yeah for me.

Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€” February 6, 2006 @ 5:46 pm 

Rape and Pillage, you mean like the college republicans ripping off those old Men and Women with their &quot;organizations&quot;
How about Delay ripping off the Elderly with his &quot;Family Values&quot;
But hey your a Mysoginist Right IRI?
You hate women so then you hate your mother.
Im guessing she took one look at you and put you up for adoption. 
SO tell us your sad story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Mexico and the Meskin peoples even though it is a shithole run by world class tyrants and crooks. But youâ€™re full of shit if you think you did anything but jump out of the pan and into the fire. That said Iâ€™m looking at some small villages on the West coast as possible retirement spots where I can paint nekkid Meskin womens and drink beer all day. Iâ€™ve almost raped and pillaged enough to retire early. Yeah for me.</p>
<p>Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€” February 6, 2006 @ 5:46 pm </p>
<p>Rape and Pillage, you mean like the college republicans ripping off those old Men and Women with their &#8220;organizations&#8221;<br />
How about Delay ripping off the Elderly with his &#8220;Family Values&#8221;<br />
But hey your a Mysoginist Right IRI?<br />
You hate women so then you hate your mother.<br />
Im guessing she took one look at you and put you up for adoption.<br />
SO tell us your sad story.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=440524', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mr ho</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-440519</link>
		<dc:creator>mr ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking thru the Links given, check this out;

California Attorney General Bill Lockyer issued guidelines in July specifying that state and local law enforcement agencies shouldn&#039;t spy on political protesters without reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. He said the guidelines were needed after &lt;strong&gt;U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft authorized federal agents to monitor political and religious groups without evidence of criminal activity&lt;/strong&gt;, something Lockyer said is prohibited by California&#039;s constitution.
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Ashcroft resigned (loyalty issue?) soon after Bush Asked him to   approve spying on (?) Ashcroft denied to do that. Now we gain insight into WHY Ashcroft DIDNT sign off on Bushes Taps. 
 Ashcroft did it once before and got Caught, even for King Bush he wouldnt do it again.

Ya know for once, Ashcroft actually grew some Huevos.
Can the OLD GUARD Conservatives muster up some Nads as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking thru the Links given, check this out;</p>
<p>California Attorney General Bill Lockyer issued guidelines in July specifying that state and local law enforcement agencies shouldn&#8217;t spy on political protesters without reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. He said the guidelines were needed after <strong>U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft authorized federal agents to monitor political and religious groups without evidence of criminal activity</strong>, something Lockyer said is prohibited by California&#8217;s constitution.<br />
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Ashcroft resigned (loyalty issue?) soon after Bush Asked him to   approve spying on (?) Ashcroft denied to do that. Now we gain insight into WHY Ashcroft DIDNT sign off on Bushes Taps.<br />
 Ashcroft did it once before and got Caught, even for King Bush he wouldnt do it again.</p>
<p>Ya know for once, Ashcroft actually grew some Huevos.<br />
Can the OLD GUARD Conservatives muster up some Nads as well?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=440519', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-440505</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I-R-I &gt; General Hayden is NOT a patriot &gt; he is a criminal thug who spies on innocent people illegally without warrants!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I-R-I &gt; General Hayden is NOT a patriot &gt; he is a criminal thug who spies on innocent people illegally without warrants!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=440505', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-440187</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never regretted it one bit either. 

Comment by Paul in Mexico 

I love Mexico and the Meskin peoples even though it is a shithole run by world class tyrants and crooks. But you&#039;re full of shit if you think you did anything but jump out of the pan and into the fire. That said I&#039;m looking at some small villages on the West coast as possible retirement spots where I can paint nekkid Meskin womens and drink beer all day. I&#039;ve almost raped and pillaged enough to retire early. Yeah for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never regretted it one bit either. </p>
<p>Comment by Paul in Mexico </p>
<p>I love Mexico and the Meskin peoples even though it is a shithole run by world class tyrants and crooks. But you&#8217;re full of shit if you think you did anything but jump out of the pan and into the fire. That said I&#8217;m looking at some small villages on the West coast as possible retirement spots where I can paint nekkid Meskin womens and drink beer all day. I&#8217;ve almost raped and pillaged enough to retire early. Yeah for me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=440187', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in Mexico</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-440092</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrongee. For information for you very addled brain, let me say to you that I am an American. I moved down here to get away from George W. Bush and other crazies like you.

Never regretted it one bit either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrongee. For information for you very addled brain, let me say to you that I am an American. I moved down here to get away from George W. Bush and other crazies like you.</p>
<p>Never regretted it one bit either.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=440092', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-440068</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blathering fools/tools for Bush: Spy on us, were scared of brown people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blathering fools/tools for Bush: Spy on us, were scared of brown people.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=440068', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-439884</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! 

Comment by Jay Randal


Yeah! That what he deserves for trying to protect his family and his country from your friends the Islamist Head Choppers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! </p>
<p>Comment by Jay Randal</p>
<p>Yeah! That what he deserves for trying to protect his family and his country from your friends the Islamist Head Choppers.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439884', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-439856</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>General Hayden is a massive liar and a criminal!

He should be read his Meranda Rights and arrested for breaking the FISA laws regarding warrantless wiretaps!

He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General Hayden is a massive liar and a criminal!</p>
<p>He should be read his Meranda Rights and arrested for breaking the FISA laws regarding warrantless wiretaps!</p>
<p>He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439856', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-439786</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We told them to take their snakeoil down to the next state who doesnâ€™t care about honest elections. 

Comment by progressive and proud 

The machines were a terrible idea from the get-go. Not only could they be hacked but how could anyone expect the majority of democrats who would use them to learn how to operate them when they can&#039;t even figure out the &quot;punch a hole&quot; method of voting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We told them to take their snakeoil down to the next state who doesnâ€™t care about honest elections. </p>
<p>Comment by progressive and proud </p>
<p>The machines were a terrible idea from the get-go. Not only could they be hacked but how could anyone expect the majority of democrats who would use them to learn how to operate them when they can&#8217;t even figure out the &#8220;punch a hole&#8221; method of voting?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439786', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: progressive and proud</title>
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		<dc:creator>progressive and proud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diebold OUT in TN.  We proved to them how easy the machines were to hack (showing them actually, it was truly simple, even a troll could do it) and they told us they didn&#039;t care, we just have to trust them.  We told them to take their snakeoil down to the next state who doesn&#039;t care about honest elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diebold OUT in TN.  We proved to them how easy the machines were to hack (showing them actually, it was truly simple, even a troll could do it) and they told us they didn&#8217;t care, we just have to trust them.  We told them to take their snakeoil down to the next state who doesn&#8217;t care about honest elections.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439741', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-439617</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Downhill - all too correct. America has been going downhill for 5 years now, and will continue to go downhill until the people wake up, take control of whatever shard of government they have left, and oust the bastards in control.

Comment by Paul in Mexico 

If I were you I&#039;d worry about your own country. How did you like my idea about sending all of your citizens back home trained and armed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downhill &#8211; all too correct. America has been going downhill for 5 years now, and will continue to go downhill until the people wake up, take control of whatever shard of government they have left, and oust the bastards in control.</p>
<p>Comment by Paul in Mexico </p>
<p>If I were you I&#8217;d worry about your own country. How did you like my idea about sending all of your citizens back home trained and armed?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439617', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in Mexico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Downhill - all too correct. America has been going downhill for 5 years now, and will continue to go downhill until the people wake up, take control of whatever shard of government they have left, and oust the bastards in control.

It should be noted here that NSA has been spying on Americans ever since shortly after it was formed. Their net reaches wide and has no holes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downhill &#8211; all too correct. America has been going downhill for 5 years now, and will continue to go downhill until the people wake up, take control of whatever shard of government they have left, and oust the bastards in control.</p>
<p>It should be noted here that NSA has been spying on Americans ever since shortly after it was formed. Their net reaches wide and has no holes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439569', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
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		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I-RIGHT-I: Iâ€™ve spent the bulk of my adult life wishing I had the freedoms you have in your country. You have no idea whatâ€™s ahead of you when you talk like thatâ€¦

You have no idea at all that your country is going downhill when you talk like thatâ€¦ 

You have no idea what youâ€™re giving up. 

Comment by downhill 

I come from a country where our Constitution and laws are twisted and perverted by Left Wing Thugs to dissemble and to manipulate public opinion for the purpose of destroying our country. It is an unfortunate fact that democracy and freedom are just words in the mouths of most Americans. As some man has recently put it, &quot;The US Constitution is not a suicide pact.&quot;

I call your attention to a law that was written in a time of war when we again found ourselves with enemies both foreign and domestic....


THE ESPIONAGE ACT OF 1917 
Act of June 15, 1917, ch. 30, title I, Â§3, 40 Stat. 219, 
amended by Act of May 16, 1918, ch. 75, 40 Stat. 553-54, 
reenacted by Act of Mar. 3, 1921, ch. 136, 41 Stat. 1359, 
current version codified at 18 U.S.C. Â§2388 

Sec. 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully cause or attempt to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, to the injury of the service or of the United States, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I-RIGHT-I: Iâ€™ve spent the bulk of my adult life wishing I had the freedoms you have in your country. You have no idea whatâ€™s ahead of you when you talk like thatâ€¦</p>
<p>You have no idea at all that your country is going downhill when you talk like thatâ€¦ </p>
<p>You have no idea what youâ€™re giving up. </p>
<p>Comment by downhill </p>
<p>I come from a country where our Constitution and laws are twisted and perverted by Left Wing Thugs to dissemble and to manipulate public opinion for the purpose of destroying our country. It is an unfortunate fact that democracy and freedom are just words in the mouths of most Americans. As some man has recently put it, &#8220;The US Constitution is not a suicide pact.&#8221;</p>
<p>I call your attention to a law that was written in a time of war when we again found ourselves with enemies both foreign and domestic&#8230;.</p>
<p>THE ESPIONAGE ACT OF 1917<br />
Act of June 15, 1917, ch. 30, title I, Â§3, 40 Stat. 219,<br />
amended by Act of May 16, 1918, ch. 75, 40 Stat. 553-54,<br />
reenacted by Act of Mar. 3, 1921, ch. 136, 41 Stat. 1359,<br />
current version codified at 18 U.S.C. Â§2388 </p>
<p>Sec. 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully cause or attempt to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, to the injury of the service or of the United States, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439563', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: downhill</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/06/hayden-dodge/comment-page-1/#comment-439533</link>
		<dc:creator>downhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 &quot;Letâ€™s find each and every one of these people and throw them in jail. If the â€œjournalistsâ€ refuse to cooperate with the investigation into who is â€œleakingâ€ or â€œlyingâ€ information then throw them in jail as well.&quot;

Comment by I-RIGHT-I 

I come from a country where something called the &quot;Internal Security Act&quot; is used regularly to suppress legitimate dissent, to lock up middle-of-the-road opposition politicians, where the press is muzzled so that it can only say &quot;supportive&quot; things about political leaders (how they&#039;re doing a wonderful job, how concerned they are about the well-being of the people...yabada, yabada), and where you&#039;re locked up if you demonstrate against ANYTHING. 

I-RIGHT-I: I&#039;ve spent the bulk of my adult life wishing I had the freedoms you have in your country. You have no idea what&#039;s ahead of you when you talk like that...

You have no idea at all that your country is going downhill when you talk like that... 

You have no idea what you&#039;re giving up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 &#8220;Letâ€™s find each and every one of these people and throw them in jail. If the â€œjournalistsâ€ refuse to cooperate with the investigation into who is â€œleakingâ€ or â€œlyingâ€ information then throw them in jail as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Comment by I-RIGHT-I </p>
<p>I come from a country where something called the &#8220;Internal Security Act&#8221; is used regularly to suppress legitimate dissent, to lock up middle-of-the-road opposition politicians, where the press is muzzled so that it can only say &#8220;supportive&#8221; things about political leaders (how they&#8217;re doing a wonderful job, how concerned they are about the well-being of the people&#8230;yabada, yabada), and where you&#8217;re locked up if you demonstrate against ANYTHING. </p>
<p>I-RIGHT-I: I&#8217;ve spent the bulk of my adult life wishing I had the freedoms you have in your country. You have no idea what&#8217;s ahead of you when you talk like that&#8230;</p>
<p>You have no idea at all that your country is going downhill when you talk like that&#8230; </p>
<p>You have no idea what you&#8217;re giving up.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439533', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops - STEPHANOPOULOS - correct spelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops &#8211; STEPHANOPOULOS &#8211; correct spelling.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439528', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, bnutter #4, i heard hayden say that on stephenopolis yesterday morning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, bnutter #4, i heard hayden say that on stephenopolis yesterday morning&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=439527', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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