VIDEO: Glenn Greenwald Debates Spying Program on C-SPAN
By on Feb 6th, 2006 at 10:10 am
VIDEO: Glenn Greenwald Debates Spying Program on C-SPAN
Glenn Greenwald, who has blogged extensively about warrantless domestic spying, appeared this morning on C-SPAN opposite University of Virginia professor Robert Turner. Watch the video, or read an excerpt of Greenwald below:
The Founding Fathers would be shocked to learn that they created a system of government where we have a President who can — without what Bush defenders call “interference” from the Congress, which this is the people of the United States and their representatives, or the courts — can make decisions about how Americans are detained, how Americans are eavesdropped on, how Americans are interrogated, not just abroad, but in the United States. The power the professor is describing is the power of a king.
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worst king ever.
February 6th, 2006 at 10:17 amYou’re right, mparker. It’s not even like he’s been a good king, loved and supported by all of his subjects. He’s been a tyrannical despot, no better than some of the tin pot dictators he now claims it will be our mission to get rid of. Impeach yesterday!
February 6th, 2006 at 10:22 amI dont know why its even a question that what Bush is doing is illegal. If Bush did not like the laws or wanted more power, he simply needs to go to Congress to get it. WTF is this so hard to understand. Hardly matters what Bush thinks or does not think.
February 6th, 2006 at 10:29 amThe question is, what are the Republicans thinking? There’s going to be an opposition president elected sometime.
And then it hit me: No there isn’t. Democracy is probably dead in America.
(I really like the part of the new Patriot Act where the president can arbitrarily designate events of national security that allow the DHS to arrest and hold anyone without charge during the event. Now that’s pretty kingly!)
February 6th, 2006 at 10:39 amOhhhh come on now,
King is so Euopean.
After all he has called hinself:
The Unitary Executive Protectorite & Chief.
And of course that would make us:
The Commonwealth of the 50 States of the Americas.
So all hail the UEP&C Bush of the C50A’s
February 6th, 2006 at 10:43 amBushit believes he is king. His minions support him and allow no dissent to reach his highness the coke snorter. This piece of shit is not only not king he is still awol and a deserter from the military. This idiot has known absolutley no repurcusions for his many publicly costly acts and criminal wanderings across this country.
February 6th, 2006 at 10:53 amIt is hard to believe that our country has become so fat and self obssesed as to allow a dictator to be formed in our face. Is there no one who can stand up to this onslaught of crime? Even Fitzgerald has had no effect. What a whimpy country. We are doomed to become afailed state without opposition.
Ever watch the new version of the show Dune? I sometimes wonder if the author was refering to America and the middle east when we wrote it. If you compare “spice” to “oil” then it becomes a scary comparison… The spice must flow… And when the emporer is drawn into the midst of the desert dwellers…in their territory… he is sacked.
February 6th, 2006 at 11:04 amI don’t get the logic the left uses to describe the Bush administration. For about forty years until ‘94, they controlled the house and for a majority of those years they controlled the senate as well. While they did not control the white house, they certainty had their way with the supreme court. And that was not a monarchy because they ran things? Leftists in this country need to stop whining and do a self-evaluation as to why they are not winning. If you feel that things are so bad, just leave, but try to find a country with as much opportunity and freedoms. My guess is that you won’t find too many to choose from.
February 6th, 2006 at 11:12 amLeftists in this country need to stop whining and do a self-evaluation as to why they are not winning.
That’s easy: we don’t cheat and we don’t play dirty.
February 6th, 2006 at 11:22 amNice try Randy, but what happens when the monarch wants to tear your house down, and needs no authority to do it?
Glenn Greenwald didn’t stutter once, because he knows he’s right. How much blinking and squirming did Ken Mehlman offer while claiming that a $12 billion cut in education was a good thing.
The big debate is about authority, accountability, and checks and balances. If the MSM would stop bolstering the administration’s smokescreen about the mechanics of the program eg., we would hear about how Bushco is way over the line by now.
February 6th, 2006 at 11:32 amRandy
Do you listen to your self???
Do you actually hear your words???
This Impeachment party we’re trying have here isn’t about overthrowing the Republicans or the RNC. It is about your Bill of Rights.
Pay attention to what your president is doing.
Pay attention to his requests of you.
Where in your education did you learn that the president is above the law? That he can summarily dismiss Congress’ constitutionally granted rights to be the sole creator of laws for the land? That he keep his secrets so as not to have to have them verified and checked?
I know, I know.
How dare we question our illustrious leader.
How dare we call into check his Unitary powers.
How dare we not hold him accountable for not protecting the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. For calling into question his Executive Chiefdom powers to rewrite the body of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
How dare we!!!
or
How dare you.
February 6th, 2006 at 11:36 amFascist bull poo-poo.
Oops…
correction…
Should read…
February 6th, 2006 at 11:41 amHow dare we hold him accountable for not protecting the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. For calling into question his Executive Chiefdom powers to rewrite the body of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Randy, the President took an oath to preserve, protect and defend NOT the people, but the CONSTITUTION, of the United States.
Bush is clearly stepping over his Constitutional authority to (supposedly) protect the people. (For all we know, it’s a plain power grab, becasue there’s no oversight to speak of.) Bush has his priorities completely backward.
As for your point about the Dems being in power, well, the last time a president tried breaking political laws, it was the Democrats (along with many Republicans with integrity) that put him straight and saved the Republic. Unfortunately there are few persons of integrity inhabiting Congress right now. We, the People, have no protector from Bush.
February 6th, 2006 at 11:51 amWe already know the answer to thta question.
We don’t own Diebold.
It’s that simple.
February 6th, 2006 at 11:58 am#8 Since it is you that is willing to give up the freedoms that make this country what it is, you are the one that is looking for a different county. I hope you find it.
GOOD NEWS, Diebold is OUT here in our part of TN, probably the entire state!!! It is just too easy to rig and they refuse, yes refuse, to offer a paper trail. You should have seen these scumbags, you would be proud.
Thanks everyone who provided me info on this corrupt company.
February 6th, 2006 at 12:36 pmOh, man.
February 6th, 2006 at 1:27 pm“I don’t get the logic the left uses to describe the Bush administration.”
How about “unelected president”? Is that clearer, Randy? Everything else flows from that fact.
February 6th, 2006 at 1:52 pmLeftists in this country need to stop whining and do a self-evaluation as to why they are not winning.
That’s easy: we don’t cheat and we don’t play dirty.
Comment by ann —
Of course you do, it’s just that the Republicans have adopted your tactics thanks in large part to the Left Wing Jews you call neo-cons who have defected.
February 6th, 2006 at 1:52 pmWe don’t own Diebold.
It’s that simple.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
You don’t own a clue or an original idea, that’s why you lose. Nobody trusts you. Nobody likes your homosexuals, feminists, anti-Semites,treason and French acting tards you run for office. The voting machines are the least of your problems.
February 6th, 2006 at 1:55 pmHow about “unelected president� Is that clearer, Randy? Everything else flows from that fact.
Comment by dano347
Still can’t get over not being allowed to steal the election eh? HA! I laugh my ass off every time one of you sore losers claims that Bush stole the election. Yeah, he followed the law to steal it away from the legion of lawyers you asses sent to Florida. Hell, we’d still be counting hanging chads if we left it up to you.
February 6th, 2006 at 1:58 pmRight between the eyes,
Are you still alive? I thought you died in that shoot out in Arkansas?
February 6th, 2006 at 2:26 pm#18 & 19 so what is it IRI are dems the jews? Or are they the anti Semites? Looks like you are covering all your hate bases here.
#20 you need to go back and look at the 200 election again. Prior to the election the prediction was that Bush would win popular and Gore the electoral. Per pre-election comments the republicans said they had hundreds of lawyers lined up to argue that if this situation occured Bush should be president and they were prepared to argue the case in court for months or years if necessary. Do the search dude, this is real.
February 6th, 2006 at 2:32 pmWow, I-Right-I, I just can’t believe I’m hearing an American saying some of the stuff you say. The venom, the cynicism, and pettiness, the hatred.
I feel sorry for you, brother. You’re lost. I don’t know if you really think you’re a Christian or not, but if you are, you’re going to have some ’splainin’ to do someday.
February 6th, 2006 at 3:00 pmI saw Greenwald this morning and he was a good representative for the law. He does’t stutter, stammer or otherwise dance around the truth when he gives his replies and makes his comments. The truth can have this effect.
February 6th, 2006 at 4:05 pmWhen you deal in facts, when you tell the truth, there is no stuttering or stammering because your brain isn’t thinking one step ahead or recalling what you said before –it is what it is.
Bush&Co apparently believe that Congress is a nuisance to be quickly dismissed, in stark contrast to the directives of the founding fathers that there be three EQUAL branches of government, set up in such a way to be a check on one another. GWB has crowned himself king with his court of republican sycophants.
Ever watch the new version of the show Dune? I sometimes wonder if the author was refering to America and the middle east when we wrote it. If you compare “spice†to “oil†then it becomes a scary comparison… The spice must flow… And when the emporer is drawn into the midst of the desert dwellers…in their territory… he is sacked.
Comment by Gerald Gibson
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Am I right in my guess that you either watched it on VHS or as a television broadcast? The special edition DVD contains a couple of special features which actually discuss this parallel to some degree — especially when you consider the fact that some of the words which the author made up for his story were based on or taken directly from Arabic (such as his use of the word “jihad”).
Frank Herbert, the author of “Dune”, was apparently very environmentally-minded and politically-minded — and although there’s no direct evidence that he intended it to be prophetic or allegorical when he wrote it (it was published in the late 60’s, I believe), there *are* indeed some rather interesting parallels between the book and the War on Terror.
February 6th, 2006 at 4:25 pmDiebold=Ohio=Bush
February 6th, 2006 at 5:19 pm#
I don’t get the logic the left uses to describe the Bush administration. For about forty years until ‘94, they controlled the house and for a majority of those years they controlled the senate as well. While they did not control the white house, they certainty had their way with the supreme court. And that was not a monarchy because they ran things? Leftists in this country need to stop whining and do a self-evaluation as to why they are not winning. If you feel that things are so bad, just leave, but try to find a country with as much opportunity and freedoms. My guess is that you won’t find too many to choose from.
Comment by Randy — February 6, 2006 @ 11:12 am
Well Randy you just Said it ‘Freedoms’
The Wiretaps, under Nixon were Illegal, and under Bush its likely the same story. And that is Freedoms. It isnt about winning or losing. Its not a football game. When “our” rights “our” freedoms suffer under byzantyine laws, “WE” are all affected.
AND would you PLEASE stop referring to ‘left’ and ‘right’ I am not either one. When people use this sort of BIAS group speak, it means nothing.
February 6th, 2006 at 10:08 pmIts opinion. Just as Your whole Post is.
#24 marie
He does’t stutter, stammer or otherwise dance around the truth when he gives his replies and makes his comments. The truth can have this effect.
When you deal in facts, when you tell the truth, there is no stuttering or stammering because your brain isn’t thinking one step ahead or recalling what you said before –it is what it is.
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Indeed. Those whom lie often forget the lie they told and when questioned they dont remember it thus they spin, Blame, Deny or just refuse to Answer.
February 6th, 2006 at 10:15 pmThose who doubt that the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld team will attack Iran, while so conspicuously overextended in Iraq, are ignoring the subtleties of the administration’s Middle East strategy.
Bush has no intention of occupying Iran. Rather, the goal is to destroy major weapons-sites, destabilize the regime, and occupy a sliver of land on the Iraqi border that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth. Ultimately, Washington will aim to replace the Mullahs with American-friendly clients who can police their own people and fabricate the appearance of representative government. But, that will have to wait. For now, the administration must prevent the incipient Iran bourse (oil-exchange) from opening in March and precipitating a global sell-off of the debt-ridden dollar. There have many fine articles written about the proposed “euro-based†bourse and the devastating effects it will have on the greenback. The best of these are “Petrodollar Warfare: Oil, Iraq and the Future of the Dollar†by William R. Clark, and “The Proposed Oil Bourse†by Krassimir Petrov, Ph.D.
The bottom line on the bourse is this; the dollar is underwritten by a national debt that now exceeds $8 trillion dollars and trade deficits that surpass $600 billion per year. That means that the greenback is the greatest swindle in the history of mankind. It’s utterly worthless. The only thing that keeps the dollar afloat is that oil is traded exclusively in greenbacks rather than some other currency. If Iran is able to smash that monopoly by trading in petro-euros then the world’s central banks will dump the greenback overnight, sending markets crashing and the US economy into a downward spiral.
The Bush administration has no intention of allowing that to take place. In fact, as the tax-cuts and the budget deficits indicate, the Bush cabal fully intends to perpetuate the system that trades worthless dollars for valuable commodities, labor, and resources. As long as the oil market is married to the dollar, this system of global indentured servitude will continue.
Battle Plans
The Bush administration’s attention has shifted to a small province in southwestern Iran that is unknown to most Americans. Never the less, Khuzestan will become the next front in the war on terror and the lynchpin for prevailing in the global resource war. If the Bush administration can sweep into the region (under the pretext disarming Iran’s nuclear programs) and put Iran’s prodigious oil wealth under US control, the dream of monopolizing Middle East oil will have been achieved.
Not surprisingly, this was Saddam Hussein’s strategy in 1980 when he initiated hostilities against Iran in a war that would last for eight years. Saddam was an American client at the time, so it is likely that he got the green light for the invasion from the Reagan White House. Many of Reagan’s high-ranking officials currently serve in the Bush administration; notably Rumsfeld and Cheney.
Khuzestan represents 90% of Iran’s oil production. The control over these massive fields will force the oil-dependent nations of China, Japan and India to continue to stockpile greenbacks despite the currency’s dubious value. The annexing of Khuzestan will prevent Iran’s bourse from opening, thereby guaranteeing that the dollar will maintain its dominant position as the world’s reserve currency. As long as the dollar reigns supreme and western elites have their hands on the Middle East oil-spigot, the current system of exploitation through debt will continue into perpetuity. The administration can confidently prolong its colossal deficits without fear of a plummeting dollar. In fact, the American war-machine and all its various appendages, from Guantanamo to Abrams Tanks, are paid for by the myriad nations who willingly hold reserves of American currency.
This extortion-scheme is typically referred to as the global economic system. In reality, it has nothing to do with either free markets or capitalism. That is just philosophical mumbo-jumbo. It is the dollar-system; predicated entirely on the ongoing monopoly of the oil trade in dollars.
February 7th, 2006 at 11:00 amI don’t get the logic the left uses to describe the Bush administration.
I didn’t realize that George Will and Bob Barr are on the left.
Indeed it’s clear that you “don’t get the logic” when you’re blabbering about control of the House while we’re talking about the rule of law. There’s a clear reason why you don’t get it — low intellectual capacity.
February 16th, 2006 at 3:41 pm