“The United States will always rely on foreign imports of oil to feed its energy needs and should stop trying to become energy independent, a top Exxon Mobil Corp. executive said on Tuesday.”
I have said it before and will most likely say it again. If we want to solve some of the problems in the mideast, and our own oil dependance, we need to move away from using oil.
Given that the oil companies own most of the patents to alternative fuels, we will be dependant on oil until we run out.
I had to laugh at this one beccause it’s just too bizarre…
Isn’t asking an oil executive whether the United States should begin weaning itself off oil a bit like asking a fox whether or not you should lock the henhouse door?
He’s actually right. This energy independence thing is just pandering by Bush. Right now, oil provides the cheapest energy available. When that changes through technology, dwindling supply, or political strife, then an only then will we not be dependent on foreign oil.
The only bit of that we really have control over is the technology side, that’s why we should push there. On any other front we tend to botch it.
Also, keep in mind that the reason why gas prices are where they are is because of refining capacity. When big oil complains that it’s refining capacity that’s strangled by environmental regulation, don’t believe it. We have the refining capacity that we have because it’s profitable for the oil companies to have that production constraint.
#14….The Exxon oil CEOS are definitley wrong. We need to aggressively work NOW to end our dependence on oil. Don’t buy into the “we’re a long long way away” arguement you hear from the oil companies and the Bushies. Check out this link (http://www.nrdc.org/air/transportation/oilsecurity/plan.pdf) to see an extensive and very plausible plan to put us to this goal in the near future. The technology and innovation isn’t the problem, big oil companies and right wing politicians are.
Ethanol is already cheaper than Oil, wind is equivalently priced. The issue is no longer cost, it’s existing momentum, ignorance and lack of political will. It’s corporate mantras that repeat their story so many times people believe it without question. It’s almost like religious indoctrination – so complete people don’t dare question the validity of the arguments or premises.
But I agree with the refinery statement you made – an intentional chokepoint is exactly what oil companies like.
What a bunch of crock. But what would you expect Exxon to say when they’re benefitting from the status quo and raking in record profits.
There are so many good reasons to work toward other energy sources–we should be working to wean ourselves off oil as a long-term policy. It too bad that Bush’s SOTU address rings hollow–he’s devoting little resources to this effort.
Then again what could we expect from an administration that lets Cheney and his secret oil meetings dictate energy policy–its all smoke and mirrors.
how else do they expect to keep shattering the profit records?
February 7th, 2006 at 6:19 pmNow there’s a forward thinker. I wonder what his salary is, you know….. what does he get paid to say such things?
February 7th, 2006 at 6:19 pmSo, an OilCo guy tells us that we will always be addicted to oil and that we should just accept it and move on.
Not that he is biased or has ulterior motives other than the interests of the people and our environment.
Substitute “tobacco” for “oil” in the opening sentence and we get an idea of the mentality of this character.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:20 pmWhat I wish the WH would admit is how close was this guy sitting to the Vice President when they had their energy task force meetings.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:32 pmIt’s not that he’s wrong exactly. We will probably always rely on imports… always until the oil runs out, that is.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:33 pm#4 – Wayne, i’m pretty sure they were spooning.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:38 pmIt’s like a drug dealer saying,”Yeah, you know you want some. Don’t fight it.”
What pigs….
February 7th, 2006 at 6:40 pmWhat an idiot.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:41 pmHow else is this guy going to stay a zillionaire? Don’t be hatin’.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:43 pm#6 Zookeeper
What, a little Oilback Mountain action there?
February 7th, 2006 at 7:05 pmI have said it before and will most likely say it again. If we want to solve some of the problems in the mideast, and our own oil dependance, we need to move away from using oil.
Given that the oil companies own most of the patents to alternative fuels, we will be dependant on oil until we run out.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:48 pmDo they have no shame? No decency?
February 7th, 2006 at 8:43 pmI had to laugh at this one beccause it’s just too bizarre…
Isn’t asking an oil executive whether the United States should begin weaning itself off oil a bit like asking a fox whether or not you should lock the henhouse door?
February 7th, 2006 at 10:00 pmHe’s actually right. This energy independence thing is just pandering by Bush. Right now, oil provides the cheapest energy available. When that changes through technology, dwindling supply, or political strife, then an only then will we not be dependent on foreign oil.
The only bit of that we really have control over is the technology side, that’s why we should push there. On any other front we tend to botch it.
Also, keep in mind that the reason why gas prices are where they are is because of refining capacity. When big oil complains that it’s refining capacity that’s strangled by environmental regulation, don’t believe it. We have the refining capacity that we have because it’s profitable for the oil companies to have that production constraint.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:01 pm#14….The Exxon oil CEOS are definitley wrong. We need to aggressively work NOW to end our dependence on oil. Don’t buy into the “we’re a long long way away” arguement you hear from the oil companies and the Bushies. Check out this link (http://www.nrdc.org/air/transportation/oilsecurity/plan.pdf) to see an extensive and very plausible plan to put us to this goal in the near future. The technology and innovation isn’t the problem, big oil companies and right wing politicians are.
Don’t forget about global warming, too…..
February 7th, 2006 at 10:31 pmEconGuy,
Ethanol is already cheaper than Oil, wind is equivalently priced. The issue is no longer cost, it’s existing momentum, ignorance and lack of political will. It’s corporate mantras that repeat their story so many times people believe it without question. It’s almost like religious indoctrination – so complete people don’t dare question the validity of the arguments or premises.
But I agree with the refinery statement you made – an intentional chokepoint is exactly what oil companies like.
February 7th, 2006 at 11:59 pmcmon mr exxon dude i need a fix
how much you got?
$1.99 I swear man thats all I got dude..
no way.
cmon man dude i need a fix man if only i can get to work man
ill pay ya tomorrow.
srew you. get 2.25 and ill let ya have a gal.
ah man that aint cool man..
I dont care. I need a gazillion bajillion dollars, and then sum more.
cmon dude. just.. just.. lighten up man.
screw you.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:57 amWhat a bunch of crock. But what would you expect Exxon to say when they’re benefitting from the status quo and raking in record profits.
There are so many good reasons to work toward other energy sources–we should be working to wean ourselves off oil as a long-term policy. It too bad that Bush’s SOTU address rings hollow–he’s devoting little resources to this effort.
Then again what could we expect from an administration that lets Cheney and his secret oil meetings dictate energy policy–its all smoke and mirrors.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:08 pmI wonder how much exxon paid to bribe bush and the thugs
at campaign time for their obscene subsidies and contracts?
ultimus gimp
February 11th, 2006 at 3:40 pm