VIDEO: Rev. Lowery’s Standing Ovation
By on Feb 7th, 2006 at 2:49 pm
VIDEO: Rev. Lowery’s Standing Ovation
Speaking before four presidents, including President George W. Bush, Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery received a standing ovation today at the Coretta Scott King funeral. Watch it:
We know now there were no weapons of mass destruction over there. [Standing Ovation] But Coretta knew and we know that there are weapons of misdirection right down here. Millions without health insurance. Poverty abounds. For war billions more but no more for the poor.
(HT: Atrios)
Beautiful
February 7th, 2006 at 2:52 pmAmen, Dr. Lowery! Martin Luther and Coretta Scott King would be so proud at the truth telling going on in their names.
February 7th, 2006 at 2:54 pmYeh Bush will Praise the Reverend Publicly, but then he'll go skulking back to the White House and Plan to Ruin the man, or tap his Phones, or Sick his Brown Shirts on Him.
February 7th, 2006 at 2:54 pmBushCo would be hearing more and more of that kind of that kind of thing (if they knew how to listen.)
The whole country is getting the message now, and it is resonating. The new budget is a travesty. Too bad nobody is being told what it really signifies. How long does the Administration think the American people can be fooled? November 2008 is a long way away.
February 7th, 2006 at 2:55 pmIsnt THAT RIGHT BUSH ADMIN?
Destroy the Truth?
February 7th, 2006 at 2:55 pmAmen Brother.
That was sweet. Too bad they didn't pan to a frowning Chimpy O'Douchebag.
-GSD
February 7th, 2006 at 2:55 pmHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
What a slap at Bush's face! Priceless! Flawless! Glorious!
February 7th, 2006 at 2:56 pmI was hoping TP wouldn't conflate the Bush debacle and King's funeral, but it looks like Rev. Lowery did it for us. How true. So many billions (later, trillions?) that could have gone to domestic programs to help the very people Dr. King and Family worked for....
February 7th, 2006 at 2:58 pmplease tell me there's footage of Bush ...
February 7th, 2006 at 2:58 pmWatch the right-wing try to spin this like they did the Wellstone memorial... and Maybe Tim Russert will ask Barack Obama about it on the next MTP?
February 7th, 2006 at 2:59 pmRight-wing character assassination of Dr. Joseph Lowery in three... two... one...
February 7th, 2006 at 2:59 pmWe know that there are WMDs (Weapons of Mass Deception) right down here.
We know where they are. They're in the area around DC and The Pentagon and east, west, south and north somewhat.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:00 pmThis is what the rest of us should be doing - STANDING AND FIGHTING AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. Dr. Lowery just became the latest American PATRIOT.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:01 pmiv'e been watching the msnbc coverage of the funeral for coretta scott king.
Unforunately, Chris Matthews was covering it. even in a time so precious such as this, he was suggesting the Democratic former presidents were using their time at the podium as a way to gain more political support...
i also noticed that jimmy carter just turned the other cheek to bush though--which was kinda of humorous
February 7th, 2006 at 3:01 pm"oh yeah, and its jimmy carter's mistake not to mention the president."
"oh yeah, president bush went into an unfriendly environment..."
MSNBC Coverage of The Funeral With Chris Matthews
February 7th, 2006 at 3:02 pm"Well we know only few have a political gift.."
Matthews responding with a smile to a correspondent who said Clinton didn't make much of a politcal effort
February 7th, 2006 at 3:03 pmThis is what happens when Bubble Boy is let out of the bubble.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:08 pmwow, if that doesn't get Karl fired...........
February 7th, 2006 at 3:08 pmWhat he said is so true. Did anyone also see President Carter mention when MLK was wiretapped?? He got a big applause. Did you also see how big of a standing-o President CLinton got when he went to the podium to give his speech? I bet you George was feeling quite uncomfortable.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:09 pmIf only the democrats had balls to tell the simple truth like that.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:09 pmRev. Dr. Joseph Lowery meet the C average President George W. Bush.
SLAP!!!!!!
Don't get so close Georgey boy, you may have to hear the truth.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:10 pmSpeaking of WMDs and "over there", this is what is happening in the UK:
The defence secretary, John Reid, tonight gave the clearest indication yet from a minister that the number of British troops in Iraq will be reduced this year.
Mr Reid told the Foreign Press Association that "we're well on the way" to getting the right conditions to enable a safe reduction in the 8,900 British troops currently stationed in south-east Iraq.
Reid: "we're on the way" to troop withdrawal
Or as the Bush administration would put it: The Brits are "cutting and running"; and by this, "emboldening" the enemy.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:11 pmThis is what happens when Bush attends an UNSCREENED public event.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:12 pmWatching this clip I am reminded why the great Cival Rights leaders were so great. They fearlessly not only addressed the issues, they preached about them. Their strong voices rang out with a truth and wisdom that is rarely heard today. With the notable exception of Representative John Lewis, no voices rattle the halls of congress with the power and truth that is needed.
Perhaps this is a time for not just prayer, but preachers. Not politicians, but statesmen. Not cheap theatrics, but genuine truth, spoken loud and strong in the halls of Washington. Time we Democrats stood up and reclaim the moral high ground.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:12 pmThank you, Reverend Lowery! And Bush will claim that this is the wrong time and place for such a statement. But it is, in fact, the perfect time and the perfect place.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:13 pmIs it possible Matthews is becoming worse than O'Reilley?
February 7th, 2006 at 3:15 pmWow. Tell it Brother Lowery!
February 7th, 2006 at 3:16 pmJust got done watching the funeral. Rev. Lowery knew what he was talking about. I saw it on CNN, but thanks for reminding me why Chris Matthews is still a jackass.
They should have had Olbermann covering it. He's more sentimental without being too sweet.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:16 pmEVIL IS AS EVIL DOES.
AND BUSH IS EVIL
LAYS WITH EVIL
MAKES DEALS WITH OTHER KINGS OF EVIL.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:17 pmMan! What I wouldn't give for a shot of George's reaction to that.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:17 pm*applause applause* for Dr. Lowery. THis was probably one of the few times that Dubya gets to hear uncencored responses from the public. Boy, I bet he was surprised to hear those statements. Someone please tell me that there is a cutaway shot of Dubya's response. I would pay good money to see that.
Off topic: John McCain is now bashing Barrak Obama. Check out the Chicago Sun-Times article at http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-obama07.html
February 7th, 2006 at 3:19 pmRev. Lowery is , of couse, right. But wouldn't it have been moe accurate to refer to Bush's work as "weapons of mass deception"?
February 7th, 2006 at 3:19 pmWORSE THAN OREILLY. O'Leilly is the wolf and Mathews is the wolf in sheep clothing. Much more dangerous.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:19 pmMaybe I'm naive and this is the way it has to be... but personally I'm a little uncomfortable - I guess I mean, is it appropriate -- when things like that are said like that at an event like that... But on the other hand, Mrs. King life was about politics and fighting for those disenfranchised, beaten and violated, so maybe it is fitting.
But I suppose Bush, Rove have politicized everything for some time to come. Ho hum... You can't go to an event without someone pointing it out.
Maybe I'm just generally sad we have fallen so far; that our President is a liar, thinks he is above the law, and incompetent, and it is costing us lives today and our futures. We have the potential to be so much more.
PS: Our President joked about not finding WMD; who in their right mind jokes about death and destruction and WMD. But anyway, when we say WMD, we really need to be clear because, is it their WMD or our WMD that we are talking about; since Bush is reinstating the nuclear arms race.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:21 pmhttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1198.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3570845.stm
Words of
February 7th, 2006 at 3:21 pmMass
Distraction
Hardy Haberman,
The problme is that these days anybody who speaks out is considered "extremist." The republicans would love for the rest of the civil rights leaders to die off, that way the rest are just extreme.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:22 pmAP story on this says of this event, ""For war, billions more, but no more for the poor," he said, in a take-off of a lyric from Stevie Wonder's song "A Time to Love," which drew a roaring standing ovation. The comments drew head shakes from Bush and his father as they sat behind the pulpit."
February 7th, 2006 at 3:27 pmUsing politics at funerals worked out really well for Walter Mondale in 2002.
The fact is that all the Democrats have is talk.
They are disrespecting Coretta King by doing this at her funeral.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:27 pmSpudge_Boy, you're right. Just look at the Republicans' reaction to recent Al Gore speeches. His strong voice rang out with truth, but the Republicans and the MSM tried to make Gore sound like he had gone over the edge. And I'm sure the trolls will laugh their asses off that I'm even bringing Al Gore's name up. Too bad!
February 7th, 2006 at 3:28 pmThey are disrespecting Coretta King by doing this at her funeral.
Comment by Gary Ruppert — February 7, 2006 @ 3:27 pm
Martin and Coretta King were political & civil rights activists.
How is it disrespectful to her memory to talk about the lack of health care for the poor during her funeral?
If anything, it is only fitting. Not mentioning it would be to deny all their hard work and legacy.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:31 pm#38
February 7th, 2006 at 3:32 pmCivil rights, political wrongs; certainly an apt topic of dissention at a King funeral. Hey, the truth hurts when 'the king' is outside his bubble.
Here we have some idea of the Bush reaction to these PRICELESS and INCREDIBLY ACCURATE comments from an AP report:
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"For war, billions more, but no more for the poor," he said, in a take-off of a lyric from Stevie Wonder's song "A Time to Love," which drew a roaring standing ovation. The comments drew head shakes from Bush and his father as they sat behind the pulpit.
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It seems to me that the challenge now is how do we continue the King legacy and how do we carry these comments so that they are heard everywhere. Right now, GW considers himself above the law but in reality he is overdue for an impeachment.
How do we see that Bush carries out no more use of his weapons of mass disception as President?
February 7th, 2006 at 3:33 pmThat doesn't make it acceptable to launch partisan cheapshots against someone who is attending the funeral.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:34 pmBush Shamed At King Funeral...
Reverend notes absence of WMDs to thunderous applause... stench of Iraq death haunts Bush to peacemaker Coretta Scott King's funeral.........
February 7th, 2006 at 3:34 pmso that's why Bushie ran out the door so quickly ;)
The Rev. gave an excellent speech!
February 7th, 2006 at 3:35 pm[...] I’m sure the cons will get all hot and bothered over this denunciation of Iraq at the Coretta Scott King funeral, but they really need to stop pretending that Dr. King and his wife were apolitical people. They were progressive activists fighting against the closed minds of conservatism. [...]
February 7th, 2006 at 3:36 pm#38,
That took too long, HR is writing you up, that's a second time, 3rd one and your fired.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:36 pmRev. Dr. Joseph Lowery, does not have a political agenda - he was a co-founder of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference along with Dr. King. He is one of or the longest serving proponents of civil rights in the United States and perhaps the world.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:36 pmGary Ruppert gets paid a nickle a lie. Gee Gary, you almost got ten dollars.
You lowlife waste of space.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:37 pm#38,
February 7th, 2006 at 3:37 pmYou must have known Coretta King personally to make that statement. A woman of activism hating to hear those words that were spoken. You must have known her better than anyone else then. You should write her memoirs. Tell everyone how see really thought.
#38,
You have no other talking point, you used it. Any other would be percieved as racist. And you wouldn't want the truth about your party being racist to be exposed.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:37 pmAnyone planning to see "V for Vendetta"?
Now, THERE'S an answer to our Cocaine Cowboy and Darkest Dick.
Three, two, one...
February 7th, 2006 at 3:38 pm#43
February 7th, 2006 at 3:38 pmAhhh, but don't you think Martin and Coretta would approve. BTW cheapshots for a cheapshot president....only fair.
Nice to see that TP inflates their postcounts by counting trackbacks and pings as individual comments.
Then why is he making delusional and false political attacks on President Bush?
February 7th, 2006 at 3:38 pmMy bet is that Corretta would have wanted it that way, she is smiling down on Lowery as we type.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:39 pmWindows Media Player
You might try it sometime. The entire universe uses it. It's pretty popular.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:39 pm#54,
Nice one, attack the messenger now, as you have no other talking points. Did you sign your latest write-up from HR yet?
February 7th, 2006 at 3:40 pmYour a liar Gary. Do you have a second job.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:40 pm#54,
The problem has become so massive, it no longer is about politics, it's basic morals, right and wrong. You are paid.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:41 pmYou all love to bash preachers for daring to mention politics.
But, I guess when the preacher is bashing the President, it's ok, right?
February 7th, 2006 at 3:42 pmI hope the libearl MSM replays it . Damn I missed what I have been hoping for.. Alrightyyyyyyyyy!!!!! Way To Go !!
Can we say SMACK DOWN !! This new budget has just cemented us as a Compassionate Military Country who worships wars without end before God is truly worship... The poor is paced in empty shelters to die ,the elderly are set outside their homes without clothing begging for help... the Massa bushco just keep Waring For OIL......
February 7th, 2006 at 3:42 pmGary, read the facts, do a Google search on "Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery". If you need a pointer to the Google web site, ask Spudge_Boy.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:42 pmThat doesn’t make it acceptable to launch partisan cheapshots against someone who is attending the funeral.
Comment by Gary Ruppert — February 7, 2006 @ 3:34 pm
"Partisan cheapshots"? You have such a weak, feeble psyche.
Then why is he making delusional and false political attacks on President Bush?
Comment by Gary Ruppert — February 7, 2006 @ 3:38 pm
Delusional? False?
February 7th, 2006 at 3:42 pmWere WMD founds in Iraq?
Is poverty solved in the US?
Does everyone have health insurance in the US?
Wouldn't the money spent in Iraq be better spent in the US?
Your not a preacher either Gary. Your a liar.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:43 pmwith the president right there, no less! and he had no choice other than to stand there and take it... serves him right... Bush being there is just for show anyway... as Kanye said, Bush doesn't care about black people... why else would he skip every NAACP invitation, let NO drown and enact policies that will make African-Americans suffer the most?
February 7th, 2006 at 3:43 pmGary Ruppert...Go F%^# yourself.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:44 pmYou hypocrites scream foul when you get a little truth. STFU and act like a man. You weezley-cry-baby.
#54,
You must be getting stressed, so hard to justify the overwhelming amount of terrible decisions, and lies coming from your administration. You also have to keep up with the majority of Americans opposing you. Your job is getting extremely difficult.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:44 pmGary Ruppert = Paid Shrill Shill
February 7th, 2006 at 3:45 pmHeeeere trolly trolly.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:45 pm#66,
He gets paid to post here, there's no possible way for him to act like a man under those circumstances. His only hope to become a man, is to quit his job posting here and go away.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:45 pmNow, THAT's what Rev. King was about, and Coretta too. Beautiful!
February 7th, 2006 at 3:48 pmTo use an Australianism...
February 7th, 2006 at 3:48 pm"Go you good thing!"
Beauty!
The fact is that the Democrats have turned a funeral into a pep rally, once again.
The President showed his class by not walking out for those unwarranted cheapshots. He knows that the Democrats will pay dearly for this pep rally.
The Democrats are digging their own graves though their radicalism.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:49 pmYes it does. Too bad for you. King, Scott and Parks would be laughing at you.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:50 pmComment by Gary Ruppert
HOW DARE ANY ONE SPEAK THE TRUTH
Especially when the illustrious executive and protectorate in among the peasants.
Gary, really.
Memorializing is not about fluff and stuff just because the Big Guy is in attendance. MLK Jr. and CSK would have wanted it this way. They fought against the Government and it's people's elitism and segregationist. Just because times have moved on and the poor and feeble aren't all African American doesn't make the messages of MLK Jr. and CSK any less relevant.
OMG
~ We're arguing relevancy at Coretta's funeral WHY???
Bush is in attendance. President Irrelevant, himself.
Well, MLK Jr. would argue that this is not a time to turn a cheek and walk away. Christ says to turn the other cheek and stand and face those that oppose you, oppress you. That is turning the other cheek.
And if Bush doesn't like this feedback then he is the one that needs to deal with it.
SO WHAT WHO HE IS.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:51 pmEVIL IS AS EVIL DOES.
Your not even a good liar Gary. Your a lousy hack.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:52 pmSay it, Reverend!! Speak the truth!! Now that is some kind of testifying that I can go along with. This comes right as Mr. Bush's budget is revealed to cut programs for the poor, elderly and students, and increase money for defense corporations. After that sermon, the President has probably added Rev. Lowery and other black liberal church leaders to "watch list".
February 7th, 2006 at 3:53 pm#43 People like you even attending her funeral would be disrespectful. She fought against those then that are like you know. You are what the evil has morphed into. And, yes, she would have loved being able to, at her death, stick it to such an evil man.
Yep, Bush is today what King fought against long ago. Oh, and BTW, still fighting. When you speak of disrepect, you own the blueprint for it. You have disrespected America by voting in an unintelligent fool that will break YOUR children's bank. But who cares, right? As long as you have yours.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:53 pmSo, how do you think that the fact that THERE WERE NO WMDs as being delusional?
No were found and never will be in Iraq.
How do you think that no money to help the poor is false?
Mayor Ray Naggin just asked Canada for help rebuilding New Orleans, because Bush isn't doin it.
You are delusional.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:54 pmI find it hard to believe that MLK or CSK would approve of partisan cheapshots at their funerals.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:54 pmWhat kind of "pulpit" would the "Reverend" Jesse Jackson have if there was no more black poverty & no more racism? That man, and the rest of the poverty pimps would be SOL. Here's the kind of speech that would have millions on their feet cheering: (but I'm not expecting to hear it any time soon)
February 7th, 2006 at 3:55 pm"Martin and Coretta King worked tirelessly to improve the lot of millions. And we are so proud that the multitudes who admired and respected them, have lived their lives in a way that honours their memory. The trillions of dollars plowed into the black community by federal and state governments are reaping the seeds of good citizenship and family values. Black illegitimacy is almost non-existent, high school graduation rates are through the roof and black college completion is exceeding our greatest expectations. The black community is proud of these remarkable achievements and we should honour the woman who stood side by side the man who did not wish for his little children to be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character. Let's throw off the shackles of defensiveness and victimhood - rather let's acknowledge a linked and often troubling history and forge a united, prosperous and responsible future."
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA....poor gary, here's a 'cheap shot' for you.....WAKE UP, THE PEOPLE YOU ARE DEFENDING ARE CROOKS!
February 7th, 2006 at 3:55 pmWe bash preacher s who want to interject their beliefs into our schools and who call for the assassination of elected officials of soveriegn countries.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:55 pm#54
February 7th, 2006 at 3:56 pmor should that more accurately read "political attacks on a false delusional president"?
Remember
Bush's budget is too big if:
You want people to think you care about balanced budgets.
Bush's budget is too small if:
You want to pander to your base and say that we should surrender to Osama bin Laden.
WMDs were obviously in Iraq, it's just that they were moved to Syria.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:56 pmYou are helping boost TPs postcount everytime you post your blather.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:56 pmThe Democrats are digging their own graves though their radicalism.
Comment by Gary Ruppert — February 7, 2006 @ 3:49 pm
Pointing out the uncomfortable facts is now radicalism?
February 7th, 2006 at 3:57 pm#81 Time to deal with reality.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:57 pmDid he get a C in that class too.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:57 pmSame for Al Sharpton
February 7th, 2006 at 3:57 pm#86 HA! What a tool these dolts are. They hate the truth and the fact that it is starting to spread.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:57 pmAnd you think we are delusional. Sheesh, go take some meds.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:58 pmNow, the Paid Posters, Gary and IRI, and Mighty all know where the WMD's are. You guys deserve much more pay for your expertise.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:58 pmComing out against America with lies in a time of war is radicalism and the Democrats are catering to the extreme left.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:59 pm#90 As long as you are around, they will never have to worry about it.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:59 pmThe look on Laura's face says it all. The Right Reverand better make sure his affairs are in order because he is sure to be considered an enemy combatant by the White House and especially the Queen Bitch herself.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:59 pmIf a leader's actions aren't suitable for comment in public ceremonies, perhaps something is wrong with the leader's actions or the leader. In this case, it's both. This president has avoided direct public contact because he knows that his only response to criticism is, "I do what I do because I am the President and cannot be questioned." The man is a fraud and now Americans are increasingly willing to openly say so.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:59 pmYou won't see this on FOX NEWS, or will the "three stooges" (village idots) on Fox and Friends spin this to look like presient bush was set up.
I Contacted my two Republican Representative and told them what I thought of the Budget, Much like the Rev. said.
February 7th, 2006 at 3:59 pmWhy is it that the righties will back the IAEA when they say Iran wants WMDs, but when the IAEA said that Iraq didn't have any, "They are just part of the corrupt UN."
You can't have it both ways righty.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:00 pmDear Gary Ruppert,
February 7th, 2006 at 4:00 pmPlease be advised that your license to post for his supreme commander in chiefton will be revoked if you don't do more of the following:
1. Do not discuss facts...they cloud the subject with the evil truth.
2. Change the subject, like bring up Clinton or something.
3. Say the word partisan a bunch of times.
4. Always remember, the supreme commander in chiefdumb never is to be spoken to with words that haven't been approved by the office of strategic thinkerey.
Please follow the rules and continue the good fight for world conquernation.
The President showed disrespect by attending the Coretta Scott King funeral. Bush reviled the woman, her husband and what they stood for. He lied when he spoke at her funeral - not about her accomplishments, but about his respect for her. Rev. Lowery was and is her partner and compatriot.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:00 pmLook at him sitting there like a toad. He is mentally 12 years old.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:00 pmI agree with so many of you guys -- Rev. Lowery was great, and I would give anything to see Bush's reaction! After all, the cameras managed to find Hillary looking annoyed during the SOTU and the Bushies got all upset about her "angry body language." It's only fair to show Bush's discomfort! And Ruppert, a "cheap partisan shot" would have been people booing Bush, and they didn't, so lighten up!!!
February 7th, 2006 at 4:00 pmPresident chokes on pretzal and bruises face. Hmmm, that pretzal is an extremist with a political agenda. I think this is a war on truth, just go to the point paid posters, and admit the truth is a radical extremist with a political agenda.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:01 pmComment by Gary Ruppert
The one time that I say this, is the olny time I say this, and will be the last time I say this...
GARY,
February 7th, 2006 at 4:01 pmEITHER ENTER THE REAL WORLD OR CRAWL BACK UNDER THAT ROCK THAT YOU LIVE UNDER BECAUSE THE IDEAS THAT YOU SUPPORT ARE AS RELEVENT AS A GRAIN OF SAND.
Atlanta (heart) Bubba at the King funeral...
I haven't seen an ovation like the one received by former President Bill Clinton at the Coretta King funeral since a high school friend and I drove her little sister to a Menudo concert in Denver. ......
February 7th, 2006 at 4:02 pmBTW, take a look at Bush's feet... talk about someone who looks uncomfortable. Is he asking Laura if he can go potty?
February 7th, 2006 at 4:02 pm#101 Oh no, didn't you know that Gary Ruppert is much more in touch with Mrs. King's inner feelings and wishes - much more than her close friends.
Gary, don't you have any humility?
February 7th, 2006 at 4:02 pmWould someone do Reverend Dr. Lowery a favour and pick him up a copy of Saddam's Secrets by George Sada. That might clear up the WMD question for him so he wouldn't make such a fool of himself in front of such an gathering of headliners.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:02 pmThis isn't playing politics. Playing politics is when you use your position to smear someone who threatens your own personal power. This is playing TRUTH.
You really think Bush could touch this Lowery character? He's too low down on the totem pole. And he can't touch Clinton or Carter because they're too high up. Unlike our dear Senators, and all due respect to them, these guys have got nothing that Bushco can take away from them and keep his own nose clean.
And the corollary to that is that playing politics means you're afraid for Number One. If you can't be smeared, that means that Bushco's agenda doesn't affect you. You're fighting for the guys below you, the guys without the power. You're fighting for other people. That's called heroism.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:02 pm#80: When it comes to Bush, there is no such thing as a cheap shot. He deserves every head shot he gets.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:02 pmNew name for trolls, "paid posters",
February 7th, 2006 at 4:03 pmlets all say it: P A I D P O S T E R S
#89-
Good one. George Bush, C- Average History major as an undergrad, only got into Harvard MBA because of his family. What a loser.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:03 pmComing out against America with lies in a time of war is radicalism and the Democrats are catering to the extreme left.
Sounds like you're afraid to me.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:03 pmDont worry Gary Ruppert,
There will be plenty of black poverty and white racism as long as YOU and your Chimpy-loving pals are around.
Bush just cut funding for programs for the poor, you idiot.
To quote Cheney, GO FUCK YOURSELF, Ruppert.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:04 pmI understand Mighty, your posts are just your little "widgets" you produce to collect a paycheck. I am not offended by working for a livin'.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:05 pmWhy is it that the righties will back the IAEA when they say Iran wants WMDs, but when the IAEA said that Iraq didn’t have any, “They are just part of the corrupt UN.â€
February 7th, 2006 at 4:05 pm#81
The big lie is this no health insurance that keeps getting thrown out there. I live in a city excess of a million people. I work for a hospital that provides health care for anyone who wants it including those who cannot pay. NO ONE is turned away. For non emergency medical needs a very simple determination of one's ability to pay is done via a process called financial evaluation. Again, no one is denied healthcare. It only makes sense that a reasonable determination is made of their ability to pay.
Notice how they never say no healthcare but only say say no health insurance. No one is ever turned away at the ER. That includes when the situation is not even a real emergency. We write off millions of dollars every month. The tax payer picks up the tab via city, state and federal funding. Those are the facts.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:06 pmHey now #115,
Aside from Gary's pay, he also gets reinforcement knowing he is upsetting someone, just look as his posts as his little "widgets" he produces for a paycheck, thats all.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:06 pmI wonder how many total posts there are by the paid posters, over time, which have contributed to TP's overall posting numbers. Just another excellent use of a budget by their party.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:08 pmNo one is ever turned away at an ER? WRONG.
Theres a law but it is ignored all the time.
50 million Americans have no access to health care. Not just insurance. They can't afford health care.
Ben, youre a fucking Neocon Chimpylover. Go fuck yourself.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:09 pmAMEN, Reverend. Too bad W would not understand what he said.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:10 pm#109 - The book is bunk. You have listening to Rush too much. Don't you find it odd that you get your news from a drug addict who is STILL using? Do you really trust it?
February 7th, 2006 at 4:11 pmBen, Ben , Ben.
There are ways of "turning away people" from hospitals and ER's that does not appear to be turning them away. And in samller towns, it can be done more easily. I see it all the time in my town, with one hospital, which is privately owned. Go away Ben, or keep it up if your getting paid. The obvious will come out.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:11 pmWhile President Bush eulogized Coretta Scott King as "the first lady of the civil rights movement", Republican leaders in Atlanta and Washington DC insult her legacy with their assault on voter rights.
For the full story, see:
February 7th, 2006 at 4:11 pm"Dishonoring Mrs. King."
Is he looking more and more like Keith Richards everyday?
February 7th, 2006 at 4:49 pmGary Ruppert, check you fax machine. You are using last month's platitudes. Please update your material. Remember, Gary, it's pay for performance and you need to pull your finger out...Kick when they're down - Karl.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:51 pmAm I missing something? Why do this in this setting? Plus, the loony right will be all over this.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:52 pmGary Ruppert = Jeff Gannon
February 7th, 2006 at 4:55 pmTom3,
Sorry Tommy you do not know what you are talking about. They get the healthcare. I work in the financial area and work closely with the individuals who write-off the charges. We have a number of patients that have bills that exceed a million dollars that we will not receive a dime. Ultimately the taxpayer pays the tab.
It's nice to see what a good job your mother did raising you. Such a nice clean mouth. Your a real class act aren't you Tommy?
February 7th, 2006 at 4:56 pmMighty A - check your fax machine, the Sada stuff doesn't hunt. Remember, it's pay for performance MA, and you're stuff isn't cutting the mustard these days. It has come to my attention that you Freepers are ad-libbing and not staying on message. Come on, shape up, or its back to Iraq for you.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:57 pmSo now we're back to the reichtwingnutz talking points of 1) there were too WMD in Iraq but they got hidden
2) publically doubting anything King dumbya says equals you are an EXTREME LEFTIST and are going to be trounced at the polls.
guys, guys, guys. Please have a little dignity. The trhead is that dumbya got publically SPANKED by an old black man.
Deal with it.
February 7th, 2006 at 4:57 pmBen,
You're a liar. You say that all Americans get access to all healthcare. That's a lie.
Americans are being turned away from healthcare every day.
As for your mother, she was obviously a crack ho.
Go fuck yourself, Chimpylover
February 7th, 2006 at 5:01 pmGary Ruppert ...
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!
You have not even started to see radical yet.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:02 pm#128 - greg wirth,
February 7th, 2006 at 5:02 pmBecause that was the legacy of Mrs. King. The support of peace and social justice. Neither is happening todat.
128 - Yes, Your missing something.
Bush would use this funeral as a photo-op to lie and lie and lie. That's how he planned to use this "setting."
There is nothing wrong with a Priest making true statements especially related to poverty and health care and WAR. All of which were issues the deceased cared about greatly.
Name one issue or setting where the looney right has stopped lying or attacking their opponents out of respect for anyone ?
February 7th, 2006 at 5:02 pmGary, for Christ's sake, even Colmes can make a point better than you. Good god man, are you going to make me do all the work?
February 7th, 2006 at 5:03 pmBen, living in such a small town, it is no wonder nobody is turned away, the doctors probably don't want to be bored to death. When you live in a big city with all of its emergency rooms being closed, come back and talk about it.
You aren't under the impression that 1 million is a lot of people are you?
February 7th, 2006 at 5:03 pmThat last word sb 'today'
February 7th, 2006 at 5:03 pmIs Sada friends with the guy who buried the centrifuge parts in his garden?
February 7th, 2006 at 5:06 pmReal classy way to treat a sitting President of the United States at a funeral. NO CLASS!
February 7th, 2006 at 5:09 pmWMDs were obviously in Iraq, it’s just that they were moved to Syria.
HahahahaHHahHahahahaaa ... Maybe then the CIA should have seen them while they were finding all those WMD trailors moving around the country cooking up biological WMDs to attack Dumbfk, Alabama walmarts with.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:09 pmYou are right, Bush has no class, except for the ones he got a C in.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:12 pmmatthews doesn't need any more horse heads; he got the message a long time ago from his handlers, rove and co.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:12 pmTommyboy,
I am sorry that you have such a difficult time with yourself. Seriously, if people are not getting healthcare then why don't they say no healthcare rather than no health coverage?
Spudge, whether you think a million or 10 million is a lot is not the issue. If your emergency rooms are being closed why don't you ask where your local and state governments are. Why is your state's healthcare a federal issue? Does your state not know how to manage its healthcare? Probably not. Too many people I guess.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:14 pm# 144,
chris from boca said:
matthews doesn’t need any more horse heads; he got the message a long time ago from his handlers, rove and co.
Isn't matthews the other end of the horse?
February 7th, 2006 at 5:18 pmOkay, Ben, you say that "We have a number of patients that have bills that exceed a million dollars that we will not receive a dime. Ultimately the taxpayer pays the tab." If you write off the charges, then is there still a tab in excess of a million dollars that WE TAXPAYERS have to pay? How do we pay it? By increased costs to patients that CAN pay, or by a taxpayer-funded government program that takes up the slack, or what? No matter how you slice it, healthcare costs are through the roof, and WE TAXPAYERS are paying for it.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:18 pmSummary: the truth squeaks out, and the apologists can't handle that their savior was put in his place.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:19 pmWhat kind of “pulpit†would the “Reverend†Jesse Jackson have if there was no more black poverty & no more racism?
Same for Al Sharpton
WTF?!
Would you say the same thing about Dr. King? About Coretta King? I doubt it.
You may well ask what kind of pulpit George Bush would have if there was no 9/11. Or how much Americans would weigh if hamburgers didn't exist. It's an idiotic argument.
RE: Syria
OK, let's pretend that you know what you're talking about, and that the WMD have been hidden away in Syria. Isn't that evidence that the justification to invade Iraq had nothing to do with WMD? Why aren't we bombing Damascus? Why did the administration let them get away? If you're going to entertain fantasies, at least entertain ones that help your position rather than hurt it.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:19 pmBen, you're losing your own argument.
Yes, it is a fact that emergency rooms have to take indigent patients and write off their charges.
This is because the Republicans refuse to support universal healthcare for all Americans.
As for all other healthcare, patients get turned away every day. You said otherwise and you are a liar.
Ben, you're a cold heartless Chimpylover who doesn't care that program cuts are going to cause people to die.
Go fuck yourself.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:20 pmWay to go captain obvious. Everybody doesn't live in the fvcking boonies like you.
Oh yeah, one other thing. My state and local government are run by republicans. HAha ha ah ah ah ah.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:29 pmReverend Lowery's comments are shameful--as are Jimmy Carter's. There's a time and place for everything, but Coretta Scott King's funeral shouldn't have been used as a platform to take a swipe at President Bush. Way to go lefties, you keep finding new ways to ostracise yourselves from mainstream America.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:29 pmif you didn't 24 you missed the point
here it is again:
Watching this clip I am reminded why the great Cival Rights leaders were so great. They fearlessly not only addressed the issues, they preached about them. Their strong voices rang out with a truth and wisdom that is rarely heard today. With the notable exception of Representative John Lewis, no voices rattle the halls of congress with the power and truth that is needed.
amen
thank you, Hardy, for putting into words what I have stumbled over since nov. 2000.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:33 pmYou do realize that 68%, you know mainstream, thinks Bush is a fvcking terd right?
Oh that's right, you are a paid hack, so you will deny that FACT.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:33 pmOK folks, we're drifting and using obscenities. Let us be civil on this day that belongs to Coretta Scott King. I know that I contributed to the drift, but that was fueled by ire at the people who criticized the Rev. Lowery before delving into his efforts in and dedication to the social rights movement.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:34 pmFunny how the bushies think anything that says something bad about thier boy is shameful.
What does that say about you all? Your people thought it was an honor to say untrue things about Murtha & his meadals. Where is your class? Where is your honor?
February 7th, 2006 at 5:35 pmOk WaltTheMan,
I will stop using the word terd. Okay?
February 7th, 2006 at 5:35 pm"Way to go lefties, you keep finding new ways to ostracise yourselves from mainstream America."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... oh damn, oh my side hurts. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This is excatly what Bush is doing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
February 7th, 2006 at 5:36 pmTom3, now your not making any sense. Maybe you should put down the bong.
Spudge, I don't care what party affiliation your representatives are. If they are not doing their jobs then replace them. Otherwise your state deserves the government it votes for.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:37 pm141 He is sitting ..but president? hehe you can keep your class. I want liberty and freedom and truth. When I get those from your illigitamet president THEN we can start worrying about class... in the mean time people need to start throwing more eggs at him...in public.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:39 pmCan I get that in writing?
I don't really have to worry about it. California fell for the republican lies and won't let that happen again next election. Did you see us shut down Arnie on every one of his special initiatives. It would be nice if the rest of the country would wake up.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:40 pm#154
February 7th, 2006 at 5:41 pmAre you refering to some more bogus polls?
No wonder you guys are so shocked on election day--you actually believed those polls!
the weapons were moved to Syria, what a fucking joke!
February 7th, 2006 at 5:41 pmthey have spy satellites that can read the license plate #'s on cars from 200 miles up and you'd like us to believe they moved them across the border unseen. don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining...
Actually, it is the President and his First Lady who should be ashamed for showing up at this Great American's Funeral...
For all the poor feelings and racial divide this cretin of a President has brought to our Nation, he should be deeply admonished for pretending to mourn for a symbol of what he and his American Money and Oil Mafia have so strongly condemmed by their actions of greed and racism!!!
February 7th, 2006 at 5:42 pmfor anyone who may have missed it - the funeral will be rebroadcast tonight on c-span at 5:00pm est. well worth watching!
and by the way - matthews has taken a hard right, ever since he began pimpin' for his brother who is running for election in pennsylvania as a repugliscum.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:42 pmtell it like it is. it is time to stand up and do the right thing. impeach bush.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:42 pmI'm going to keep saying 'Jesus Christ' because it makes me feel like a Christian.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:42 pmA slap, a zinger... whatever you want to call it... when are you dems going to learn that one liners aren't going to get you all THREE branches of government back?!?
Come up with some ideas kids...
February 7th, 2006 at 5:42 pm#157 - Spudge_Boy,
February 7th, 2006 at 5:43 pmYou just used it!
I just wandered in here (via a link), but to the guy who said that all Americans have healthcare, I'd love to tell you about a friend of my mother who lost an eye because she had no insurance and could not afford to pay out of pocket. She was in one of those "in-between" income brackets where she made to little for insurance but made too much for any state or federal assistance program. Yeah, she misses that eye, too.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:43 pmSo, do you bastards believe in polls or not. Anytime they swing in your favor you people are the first to point it out.
Once again, you can't have it both ways.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:43 pm#152 ..Same thing was said about Jesus and his "extreme" actions at the temple....
No one needs to kiss this losers ass. The Kings did EXACTLY what they were asked NOT TO DO because it would upset the southern sensitivities.... hahaha when you are facing evil you dont shake its hand... you spit truth into its face.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:44 pmYou mean like the democratic ideas that Bush stole for his SOTU and then renigged on?
You come up with some ideas baby...
February 7th, 2006 at 5:45 pmHardball got some Republicans from the National Review and Matthews and a couple of Republicans are attempting to smear the Coretta Scott King funeral
February 7th, 2006 at 5:45 pmThank you so much for posting this!
I'm now watching King's Daughter, Elder Bernice King, and it's hauntingly, arrestingly moving.
If you have time, please fax, e-mail, phone national broadcast and cable news organizations, and ask them to air Lowry's statements (highlighted at the top), and some of Bernice King's indightment of the materialism and militarism of our times.
God Help Us.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:46 pmHee. Wingnuts blowing a gasket.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:47 pm#168, shush you fool! Don't boast about the one-party state, people might think that's what you want. Next thing you know they might associate that with fascism and they might actually do something about it. Jesus H Christ man, keep it down, we're one 'burned Reichstag' away from our goal, don't give it away.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:48 pmFinally, someone had the guts to stand up to King George!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 7th, 2006 at 5:48 pmIt must suck being a paid republican shill when they were made to look really bad by Alberto Gonzales yesterday and the rest of the country today.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:49 pm#178,
February 7th, 2006 at 5:50 pmThat's nuts, Rebeeca.
It simply amazes me that White Democrats use minorities strictly for political advantage and no one questions it. Using Mrs. Kings euology for politcal attacks about why we are at war in Iraq unfound WMD, Terrorist Surveilance etc, is just plain ignorant. The Democratic party has seriously sunk to a new low standard.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:51 pmit will be interesting to see if any of the major news outlets cover this. I fear not. It was a totally appropriate comment given who she was, what she stood for, and how she felt in the last years of her life.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:51 pmWhat this argument is about is the legacy of Coretta Scott King, and whether Rev. Lowery in his comments is being true to that legacy or not. She (and, as has been attested, Rev. Lowery) have been on the forefront in the fight against poverty, war and racism. Though it's easy to see his comments as a swipe against Bush, I don't think that's exactly the case. It's a swipe against Bush's priorities, his actions as President, which, at the funeral of a pacifist and civil rights pioneer, is not in the least bit shocking. But in today's society, such things are all about the cult of personality ("Oooh! He said something that Bush disagrees with to his face!") Someone made the argument that Bush was being noble by not walking out of the funeral. Nope. He was quite simply doing the least he could do, acknowledging that there is an opposition to his viewpoints. There was no direct insult to him, merely to his policies. Sorry that us lefties get our panties in a bunch about such things, but with this President, that acknowledgement is as rare as the dodo.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:51 pm[...] (via ThinkProgress - check the video) [...]
February 7th, 2006 at 5:51 pmGary == The Stinky Cheese Man
February 7th, 2006 at 5:52 pmThe pictures of Pickles, AKA, Laura, with her pursed lips and disapproving glare at the King memorial are a riot! She really lives up to her nickname.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:52 pmAbsolutely fabulous. This is just waht the doctor ordered. You know Oprah wanted to stand and scream as well!!!!!!!and there they were Goeroge Junior, senior, "kitty cat" Laura, and club foot Barbara, all crapping their pants....
February 7th, 2006 at 5:53 pm168: Typical. The GOP tries to reinvent the wheel, and we're the ones with no ideas. Here's an idea: if ain't broke don't fix it ! It's simple and it works. Next ?
February 7th, 2006 at 5:53 pmtom, what makes you think the democrats planned this as a part of a big strategy and conspiracy? This was a man making his own comments
February 7th, 2006 at 5:53 pm#181 ...hehe get some glasses ..they guy is BLACK.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:54 pm#172
February 7th, 2006 at 5:54 pmJesus' extreme actions at the temple were called for because of the inapropriate activities taking place there. Once again Gerald you turn reality on it's head, Bush didn't do anything inapropriate--he showed up to pay his respects. If Jesus were there, he would have driven the reverend Lowery and Jimmy Carter out with a whip.
I have a dream......(I'm sure it did not include fascism)
February 7th, 2006 at 5:56 pm#183
February 7th, 2006 at 5:57 pmThen why mention Weapons of mass destruction?
Pull your head out!
#172 - That's right, you tell us which side Jesus is on, there just wasn't enough 'rendering unto Caesar' at that funeral as far as I was concerned.
February 7th, 2006 at 5:59 pmWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa eh, eh , WAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa ehhh
February 7th, 2006 at 6:00 pmC h a n g e m e m y d i a p e r i s fulllllll!!
Jews beware... Democrats like the Clintons et. al. will use minorities when it suits them but never promote minorities to political heights. Of course these liberals want everyone to believe they care but that party was over in done with in the 70's and 80's.. Of course the proof is in the actions... Why did it take a Republican President to promote the first Black Secretaries of State and have more black and hispanic presidential cabinet positions than any two democratic presidents ever did in the history of the U.S. Why do the Democrats have a former KKK member (Byrd) as a Senator in Congress? So if you are Jewish and care at all about the state of Israel beware because your good friends the Democrats (Liberals) will be selling that state out in support of the Islamo Facists..
February 7th, 2006 at 6:03 pmActually, since it was pilgrimage time in the Roman occupoed city of Jerusalem, the Jewish pilgrams were lucky to be allowed in the temple at all. Pilot decided to allow the selling of sacrificial alimals and other items to the pilgrams that were waiting in line to do their bidding in the temple and then travel home. This made it easier for the Jews to buy their sacrifices and then take care of business before the next group came in. Jesus saw this and flipped out and threw shit around. That pissed off Pilot and the Jews. That is why both had him put to death.
History is a great thing. Read and learn.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:04 pm#96 - NICE! I see where "Pickels" gets her name. King George looks like he's squirming a bit too.
What? Can't take the heat? Poor fools. Aristocracy seldom handles the truth well.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:04 pm191# YOU are the one that said inappropriate actions were being taken against Bush.... no no no these actions are just the begining of something that is long over due.
YOU DONT OWN JESUS get over it.
Jesus would have whiped a civil rights leader??? Who the Fck do you think you are??? For that matter what kind of evil Taliban ass do you think Jesus was? The KKK asses like yourself would have whiped Lowery ...and Jesus would have said, "He with no sin throw the first stone."
You have NO clue who Jesus was. Put down revelations and start half way through the bible and work your way towards then end. You can skip revelations ..it was written by a crazy long after Jesus was dead.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:04 pm188.
If the fractures within the Democratic party and your complete lack of fundraising ability weren't far too real... it really would be that simple, "next?"
What's next is the republicans run on.. you guessed it, "national security" and win.. again
Seriously I'm trying to help, call it a nondenominatinoal 'faith based initiative' if you'd like
February 7th, 2006 at 6:06 pmThis is a terrible way to treat any President. No wonder Democrats continue to lose elections. Your hatred will be the nail in liberalism's coffin.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:06 pmWhen the Repugs repeatedly bashed Clinton for having the good sense to "get some", the bashing was OK.
But when a revered points out the truth which led to thousands of US deaths and sent hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians to their graves, suddenly it's not OK.
The ReichWingNuts have indeed blown a gasket.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:08 pm#202 - we never did it at a funeral. But thank you, that ensures the radical left never steps foot in the White House again. Thank you!!
February 7th, 2006 at 6:10 pm#193
My head is just fine, thank you.
Rev. Lowery mentioned WMD as a comment about a war with which he didn't agree. As I said, one of Coretta Scott King's many legacies is pacifism. You may not agree with it, and many Democrats may not either, but what he said was perfectly in keeping with her and her husband's legacy. No insults, no flame wars, just a statement that what is being done in the name of the American people is wrong. Nobody's arguing it's not a political statement. I'm just saying it's not an insult. It's more insulting that we treat this president like an infant king, incapable of hearing dissent without curling into a fetal position & calling on the Secret Service. Which action shows more strength of character?
February 7th, 2006 at 6:10 pm#201
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!
You sound like the loyalists that loved their king.
People that stand for something good in the face of evil is what the MLK legacy is all about. It is what Jesus was all about. It is what Ghandi was all about. There is no coffin. There are no nails. Liberalism, Freedom, Self determination, and Reason has been on the rise from the Magna Carta to the Bill of Rights to the Civil Rights movement. We are coming. We ARE going to get you. And we are going to treat you as the equals you never treated us.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:11 pm#191 - I don't even know where to begin.
Jesus was probably a black man. Does that bother you?
Jesus was a liberal. Does that really bother you to your cruel conservative core?
Jesus loved mankind like few people have before or since. Do you really want to drop bombs in His name?
God! Protect me from your followers!!! They are all f***ed up these days.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:12 pmOh boy, they are out in force aren't they. Don't these trolls know that we don't care what the minority party has to say. Just say we are taking a lesson from the republicans. Screw the other party.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:12 pm#203,
February 7th, 2006 at 6:12 pmW does not go to funerals, unless it's for a photo op.
#207 Spudge - you are detached from reality, my friend. Democrats just shut the door on ever winning in Georgia again. Your hatred has shifted the Supreme Court right, at least. It's the most patriotic thing you've ever done.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:14 pmSomeone ought to mention the apology the federal government owed but never gave Coretta for the illegal wiretapping J. Edgar Hoover initiated against her husband, and their letter to him suggesting that he should kill himself rather than see them reveal his marital problems and infidelities. Not to mention the compilation tape our tax dollars paid for and which the feds sent Ms. King, which included conversations they taped between Martin Luther King and his mistresses.
Is this a national security issue, a good reason to spy on the Nobel laureate MLK? Not.
And yet we're back there again at domestic spying today, with the body of MLK turning over in his grave.
No one even bothers to mention that the biggest constitutional crisis in the last 150 years centers around the abuse of surveillance power, and the very man who intitiated the illegal wiretapping is sitting onstage while we eulogize the wife of one of the most visible victims of egregious, illegal, executive domestic spying.
Interesting. Ironic.
Love to all of you, and don't drink the kool-aid.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:14 pmi mean im a bush hater also, but a funeral is no place for that.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:14 pm#197
February 7th, 2006 at 6:17 pmWhere do you get your facts from? The Davinci Code? You couldn't have screwed that story up anymore if you tried. Go back to being a mindless cheerleader for the left--you're much better at that.
W can't win for losing when it comes to the hateful, race baiting left. If he stayed home, he's a bigot. IF he goes, you'll just say that to his face. Thank God he is President and the GOP controls the govt. The hate mongers on the left have no shame and will learn eventually.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:17 pmI have to thank Rev. Lowery’s straight forward statements. The mainstream media hasn't done their job; the opposing party--the Democratic Party--has done their job to challenge Bush in a straight forward manner.
Rev. Lowery has reduced some suffocating air around me. I feel I can breathe a little bit better when truth was speaking out in such a straight forward manner in front of our lousy president
February 7th, 2006 at 6:17 pmWhat a classless bunch the King family and their supporters have turned out to be. In between running their beloved father's memorial center into the ground amidst a nest of shady financial dealings, they now can't resist bashing the President when he turns up to pay tribute. I'm no fan of Bush, as evidenced by my reading of this site on a regular basis. However, has all civility vanished from society? The same people that bash Bush for showing up at the memorial would have been the first people to diss him for being disrespectful if he didn't show up. In essence, he was in a no-win situation. What a tragedy that class in the Civil Rights movement seems to have died with Martin Luther King himself.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:18 pmGeorge Bush had it coming. He is the polar opposite of Mrs. King in terms of civil rights.
He had no business being there. But he is really stupid and clueless so I'm sure he's being told everything was just dandy.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:18 pmAtrios speaks for me:
For the Record
When I die, please let it be known that my family and friends are entitled to conduct my funeral in any manner they see fit, including but not limited to talking about the things which were important to me in life.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:19 pmNo reverend lowery promoted Democratic political talking points at and event that should have been revered. Same with Jimmy Cartes comments and to that end Bill and Hillary Clinton grandstanding. If no one wants to believe that the Islamo Facists Murdered 3000 Americans on 9/11 and that the world changed on that day and if you continue to hollar about no WMD... when this President took action that prior Presidents were too cowardly to take and If you are too ignorant to realize that taking the dramatic steps of going to war in Iraq have in fact saved the U.S. from attacks well lets just say when the majority of Americans believe that then we will go back to sleep and hit us again they will but next time it won't be 3,000 it will be 300,000 or 3 milliion... and what then ..... How can you possibly defend inaction the next time....
February 7th, 2006 at 6:19 pm211
Ya lets watch Chris Matthews take a stab at truth this sunday that would be more appropriate...
I bet the friends and family of Jesus just had honorable classy things to say about the Romans and Jews that hung him on the cross...
The false dignity is not truth.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:19 pmGary Ruppert
Mighty Aphrodite...
February 7th, 2006 at 6:19 pm
Rev. Lowery has reduced some suffocating air around me. I feel I can breathe a little bit better when truth was speaking out in such a straight forward manner in front of our lousy president.
Indeed. Rev. Lowery speaks truth to power. Just like Jesus.
The ReichWingNutWackJobs can't handle the Truth. So they attack. Oh well. It's their blood pressure. Not mine. The Truth is relaxing. It makes things clear. It helps us grow. It helps us do the right things for each other.
Rev. Lowery did a wonderful thing today.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:20 pmI bear no disrespect, but what technology did they use to hold down that woman's coffin? Iran could have used her remains to construct the world's most powerful centrifuge.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:20 pm#213 ...South = KKK dont tell us what hate is about ..we watched your kind on TV as you showed us all what you thought... and as far as traitors go ...who tried to destroy America by leaving the union?
Good day.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:21 pmGun Toting - your missing the point. Bush didn't wiretap Coretta. He just happens to think like 51% of the voting public. So going off on him (at a funeral, no less) is just tacky. He is a good man and you brownshirts have gone one step too far.... AGAIN. This will come back to bite you in the ass.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:21 pmI meant while W spoke.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:22 pmThere is absolutely nothing about Jesus storming the temple in the Davinci Code. The story is based on facts. You do know that there are other histories besides the bible that were written during that time and that is the interesting part, the other histroies were actually written during the time period, not hundreds of years later.
I know you thought you would get me with military service, so now I sak you. Have you read the entire bible from front o back cover. I know I have. That is what openned my eyes to the truth.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:23 pm#215 ...Maybe at George Washingtons funeral the King of england should have been invited to tell the Americans about the greatness of freedom and liberty that George Washington and won for us all....get real. Civility went out the window in the 2000 elections. Civility went out the window when this administration used 911 as an excuse to drag the country into a war they didnt want instead of going after Osama and Saudi Arabia.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:24 pmGary and Mighty Aphrodite-
By posting the usual nonsensical responses, it is the two of you who are appearing to be contradictory when it comes to the Civil Rights movement and the people who fought and are still fighting to find a place among this country.
M.A., It's sad to see your response to Rev. Lowery because, unlike a certain "religious leader" we know, he doesn't damn any city or sets of people straight to hell. Also he cares more about the victims of Katrina and Rita than the other "religious leader." As far as "making a fool of himself" as you claim, it's a Black thing, you wouldn't understand. Read a book or watch a civil rights program on Tv and maybe, you'll understand the struggles, past, present and future that still occur. While your hero, Pat Robertson advocated Apartheid in South Africa, back in the 80's, Corretta Scott King was continuing the fight for equal justice and with the King Center and the successful fight to bring about the national holiday for her husband, she worked tirelessly for the rights of all Americans.
But the two of you can go back to your bright shiny glass houses with your white picket fences and your constant optimism that everything will be alright as long as King George tells us how to do it,his way. But, just remember, in the real world, you'll find out where you're at when someone throws a rock at the house.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:24 pm#224 -ILL,
February 7th, 2006 at 6:25 pmThe number currently stands at 38%.
I'm a lifelong Republican and I think George W has gone too far. He can not be insulated from the general public 100% of the time . Lowry was asked to speak by the family he did, and spoke his mind . If W or other fellow Republicans don't like it too bad., they are guests.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:25 pmFor the Record
When I die, please let it be known that my family and friends are entitled to conduct my funeral in any manner they see fit, including but not limited to talking about the things which were important to me in life.
Comment by Marq — February 7, 2006 @ 6:19 pm
You sure aren't leaving them much to talk about.
Just kidding...couldn't resist.
Personally I hope they show this all over the evening news. The part that the left does not seem to understand is that these moments of classless behavior work in Bush's favor. The American public does not rally towards rudeness. Again, thank you for your ignorance.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:25 pmNow Antagonist just said that the right doesn't quote polls, so which is it, either you do or you don't.
Can't have it both ways righties.
BTW, that number is now 68% opposed to Bush. Sorry pookie.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:25 pmHey Tom, do you believe it was appropriate for Bush to have a photo op in New Orleans? or a photo op on a ship saying the "War is Over"? Sit down and shut up.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:26 pm#218 ...what IF ...just what IF ..they kill 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 people???? OMFG That will mean that we should all put shackles on right now and give up our rights as Americans and start being slaves for the privilaged class???
Pussy. I am sure glad the democrats in WWII were not big wussies like you are.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:27 pm#199
February 7th, 2006 at 6:27 pmYou're the one who brought religion into this. You think you can just twist the scriptures to make them mean anything you want. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, so I'm going to set you straight. There is no parallel between George Bush and the money changers in the temple. But if you insist on using this portion of scripture to make your lame point, it is more fitting to see a parallel between the inappropriatness of the money changers and the inappropriatness of Lowery and Carter. If you had any understanding of the Bible at all, you would have seen this--in fact if you had any understanding, you would have picked a different story from the Bible to make your point.
Nice assortment of the dumbest trolls on earth here.
I guess the RNC boilerroom has had to hire convicts to man their troll patrol.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:28 pmIn an Ownership Society There Are No Citizens...... Only CONSUMERS So I ASK YOU What Good ARE BROKE CONSUMERS?
February 7th, 2006 at 6:28 pmWith heroes like g.ee w.hhhiiizzzzzz who needs heroes. "We dont need another hero."
February 7th, 2006 at 6:29 pm#220
Search Engine,
The problem with those two is that they refuse to accept reality when to them, it defined as watching American Idol, thinking that Chuck Norris is a great Martial Arts genius and that Toby Keith knows more about America than Mr. Springsteen.
And, if they caught Bernice King's riveting speech today, they'd know that the reality we live in is biting us in the ass and that we have to pick up the mantle and remind ourselves that there is a King (Martin or Coretta) inside of us.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:30 pmSo what it means nothing at all that This President promoted to the 3rd highest ranking political position 1 black male and 1 black female? His actions speak volumes to equility and civility... Who did the great "want to be black" but not have to live like a black man, impeached president Bill Clinton do to promote minorities in his cabinet????????? Oh I guess nothing so what actions don't speak louder than words??? Wake up before its too late the one time Great Democratic party of JFK and LBJ has been replaced with the Kook left Homosexual, baby killing, Islamo Facist loving Progressive party of communists and socialists....
February 7th, 2006 at 6:31 pm"Peace"
#206
Jesus was a Jew. Does that bother you? He probably had dark skin, dark hair, and dark eyes like most Jews.
Jesus didn't have a political position, and He surely did not promote liberalism. He was all about the kingdom of Heaven and doing His fathers will.
I don't know of anyone who is dropping bombs in His name.
Any other stupid points you want to make?
February 7th, 2006 at 6:37 pm#207
February 7th, 2006 at 6:38 pmMinority party?
You really are in denial aren't you.
If you are not making a stand and resisting the fascist takeover of this nation,then YOU DESERVE BUSH.If you are not speaking out against the CHIMP,then YOU DESERVE BUSH.If you allow ythese pigs to wage the war in your countrys name then YOU DESERVE BUSH> If you are not putting your ass on the line to change this country's direction then YOU DESERVE BUSH!!!!
February 7th, 2006 at 6:38 pmAnd don't forget that he chucked the 1 black male after the 2004 election.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:39 pmRegarding #233...
Yes Photo Op on the Lincoln was conducted after the most successful and quickest regime change ever undertaken by the greatest military on the planet.
Yes visiting New Orleans after the worst natural disaster in U.S. history... UMMM I think it was his responsibility to go there and if he didn't he should be hammered.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:39 pmWhat is your favorite rock band Tom? Simple Minds ? the Violent Femmes? the Talking Heads?
February 7th, 2006 at 6:40 pm>Jesus didn’t have a political position, and He surely did not promote liberalism. He was all about the kingdom of Heaven and doing His fathers will.
He said to feed the hungry, clothe the naked and heal the sick. You might want to reread the sermon on the Mount.
He didn't say to give tax cuts to the rich, or eavesdrop illegally on your neighbor.
It is appalling how ignorant self described Christians are about Jesus.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:41 pm#244 get a clue Colin Powell resigned his position after the first term...Whats wrong with Ms. Rice??
February 7th, 2006 at 6:42 pm#235 ...make the connection between Jesus and the temple and Lowery ...go ahead lets hear it.
Here is mine ... Rich people that have scorn in their eyes like Laura Bush for the poor and the powerless ARE the TALMUDIC Jewish upper class that lived a life of luxury under Roman rule. The poor the powerless were CRUSIFIED. Jesus was not the first to be put on the cross. Many many people were sent there. And ANYTIME someone from the people tried to point out any truths the jewish upper class would pull out their Talmud and start qouting how the poor didnt meet the standards of GOD. Jesus lived with this crap his entire life. He didnt just all the sudden go off. He had ENOUGH!. GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!
The NeoCons are just like the jewish upper class. And the republicans are just like the stupid poor jews that threw stones at Jesus just because they were told to by the jewish upper class. YOU republicans are being used to try to snuff out truth.
I know what twisting Jesus is ALL about. I saw it often in my many hundreds of times going to church in Indiana as I grew up. It bothered me so much I finally started refusing to go to church despite my mothers punishments. I read the bible. I would sit there and read the part the pastor was about to "explain" to us before he did. And his "explaination" was ludicrous. unAmerican. Paranoid. You live in a Jim Jones world. Get a grip.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:43 pmThey think Iraq is a success. Whooooweeeee, that is some crazy shit.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:43 pm>Yes Photo Op on the Lincoln was conducted after the most successful and quickest regime change ever undertaken by the greatest military on the planet.
I guess you missed the overthrowing Allende in Chile....and the installation of the Shah. Gawd, you shills are the most stupid and ignorant things on this planet.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:43 pmGod bless you Reverend Lowery for speaking truth to power no matter how uncomfortable it makes them.
I suspect he was just as disturbed as I was to see W. use the death of a great woman as the soft intro to the pack of
February 7th, 2006 at 6:44 pmlies laughingly called the State of the Union.
Yes, resigned in shame after lying to the UN Security COuncil about WMDs in Iraq, but then again, you crazy fvcks think they were moved to Syria.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:44 pm>>Whats wrong with Ms. Rice??
A Russians Studies expert who doesn't read or write or speak Russian? You tell me.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:45 pm#248,
February 7th, 2006 at 6:45 pmColin Powell resigned his position after the first term because he was betrayed. Like a loyal soldier, he remained until after the reselection. Condi is a pathological liar and thus well qualified for the Bush regime.
I honestly have some concerns that King's eulogies would be used like this.
On the other hand, it is good to see King George having to face the music. He hides behind Scott McLelland, uses set-up phoney-baloney "town meetings" and so-called "free speech zones" to shield himself from the real world. It is good to see him face the real world for once.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:48 pm#226
February 7th, 2006 at 6:48 pmI have read the Bible from cover to cover, numerous times. I study it regularily, and have been for nearly thirty years. I am well aquainted with the Truth it teaches--funny how I don't recognize your version of it.
#240
Blacks dont want token appointments of republican sellouts. Blacks want direct help in the form of government 1) Money in the form of helping ALL poor not just blacks
2) ENFORCEMENT of voting laws not the subversion of them and the weakining of those laws
3) Liberty
Clinton didnt take away money that helps poor... he tried to increase it. He tried to get health care for everyone. Republicans shot that all down and the blacks saw it. Two token appointments by people that dont represent them is not going to do it... who is using minorities to dance around on stage during election campaigns? Republicans.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:48 pmSo what is your point... She must speak Russian to be a good Secretary of State? Isn't she Black? Hmm why didn't Bill Clinton promote a Black Secretary of State or Defense or Attorny General ... Thats right Clinton is wanna be black but only for the votes man... Wants to act like he's your brother for politcal gain...
February 7th, 2006 at 6:48 pmAnyone find it interesting that Babs Bush couldn't bother accompanying her husband? Guess she couldn't bother her beautiful mind...
February 7th, 2006 at 6:50 pm#240... Spoken like a true Elite liberal White man... You make it sound like black americans need the government to take care of them??? This is no welfare state... Everyone gets a fair shake..
February 7th, 2006 at 6:50 pm#241 ...
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/apr2005/acad-a30.shtml
i think those people were droping bombs in the name of Jesus.. and all the idiots that are so called christians use Jesus as their excuse for murdering arabs because they are "moon worshipers"
February 7th, 2006 at 6:51 pm>funny how I don’t recognize your version of it.
Well, you might want to actually read the Gospel According to Saint Matthew instead of Revelations. Jesus actually appears in Matthew. I notice Conservative Christians tend to ignore the most important of the Gospels.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:51 pm#242 ..Gore won the peoples voted by well over a MILLION votes.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:52 pm#264 So whats your point he lost the electoral vote? Thats how it works..
February 7th, 2006 at 6:53 pm#232
February 7th, 2006 at 6:53 pmI never said the right never quotes polls. I said you guys quote bogus polls. Polls are a useful tool, but the left is obsessed with them. The Times conducts phony polls all the time--they can make them say anything they want, and it's amplified by people like you.
#236
February 7th, 2006 at 6:55 pmGet back under the desk Nancy.
For those Bush-loyals who are posting on this blog that "the lefties were being inappropriate during the funeral", why then did the audience at the funeral in a huge majority overwhelmingly approve and applaud when those comments were made???
February 7th, 2006 at 6:56 pm#257 Given the Jim Jones cult world you live in it is no wonder you dont recognize Jesus and the spirit of Liberal Ideals he gave to the world by refusing to do the jewish priests bidding.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:57 pm235. Your right. Bush is more likely the Antichrist or a close minion but certainly not a money changer. They would be The Republican controlled Congress and Senate aligned with Corporations and City/States which he corrupts and controls or destroys.
Can anyone think of a President that could possibly be closer to Satan?
He has never been elected.
He lied us into war against innocent people.
He treats our soldiers worse than dogs.
He's bankrupted the country.
He's allowed the wholesale destruction of the environment
He continues to cut the VA,Medicare, Medicaid,Education,Health...
He destroys science and substitutes lies
He made us a nation of kidnappers and torturers
He spies on his citizens
He has made us hated throughout the world
He has increased terrorism around the world
He will make this Country into a fascist state.
Master of lies?
The Pope may have thought so.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKY/is_9_27/ai_108881880
February 7th, 2006 at 6:57 pmA standing ovation...
During Coretta Scott King's funeral services today, Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery received a standing ovation when, in front of four presidents (including President Bush), he began a thought by saying:We know now there were no weapons of mass destruction ove...
February 7th, 2006 at 6:57 pmBecause you are only reading the biblical version of history, not the reality version of history. I now understand your ignorance.
February 7th, 2006 at 6:58 pm#259 ...
The KKK joined the republican party ...why would blacks trust you?
February 7th, 2006 at 6:58 pmSo, Mr I know everything, what polls, in your opinion are reputable. Fox?
February 7th, 2006 at 6:59 pmWere the thousands in the audience being inappropraite, too?
February 7th, 2006 at 6:59 pm#261 ..No they dont get a fair shake
I am white and grew up very poor. I got to know and befriend blacks.
I now work in the white corporate world. One of the first things that shocked me when I first started working in the corporate world was one of the owners of a business I worked for said "I will hire a black as soon as she gets on her knees and blows me." That is in Indiana.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:00 pm#265 no he won the electoral vote also. Look it up ... we went over this a week ago right here on this site.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:02 pm254 - Nancy Richardson,
February 7th, 2006 at 7:04 pmShe really can't speak or read Russian? It only takes three or four days to pick it up. It's easier than Polish (Those consonants kill me).
#247
February 7th, 2006 at 7:06 pmHe also said go into all Nations and preach the Gospel and make deciples--but I'm sure that would upset some civil liberties today. By the way, the rich pay vast majority of taxes in this country, and Bush isn't spying on you.
From Jimmy Carter to The Clintons to the Reverend Joseph Lowery. This was one gigantic bitchslap on Bush .It was classic! Looks like Bush is gonna be sore tommorrow!
February 7th, 2006 at 7:09 pmOne of the first things that shocked me when I first started working in the corporate world was one of the owners of a business I worked for said “I will hire a black as soon as she gets on her knees and blows me.†That is in Indiana.
Comment by Gerald Gibson — February 7, 2006 @ 7:00 pm
I think that was the White House under Clinton not Indiana.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:09 pm279 ...
It is one thing to TELL people about Jesus... it is another to pass laws to FORCE Jesus on people. Or quite another to FORCE your way into peoples countries, smash their temples, and call their ancestors devils. Which is exactly what christians did to the Chinese... Boxer Rebellion.
Rich pay to play. If they dont want to share the American dream with others then they can just move to Russia... they do things your way over there. Mobster rules.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:10 pm#281
Nope that is common in Republican circles.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:10 pmGod Bless you, Dr. Lowery.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:16 pmThe thunderous applause that followed the Rev. Lowery's remarks says it all!!!!
February 7th, 2006 at 7:16 pmEVERY DOG HAS ITS DAY! TODAY WAS BUSH'S DAY! HOW COULD HE THINK HE COULD GO THERE, & NO ONE WOULD SAY ANYTHING BAD? HE IS IN DENIAL!
February 7th, 2006 at 7:16 pmI love reading the posts on this site because of the trolls who keep coming back again and again to make fools of themselves. I have often wondered what kind of person would participate in this kind of self abuse. I notice they're full of fear and hate which are also, coincidentally, the qualities that Bush, Rove and company try to use to manipulate the American people.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:17 pmThe Truth Is Out There! And occasionally in America, albeit rarely, a man of the cloth will speak it! Today is such a day. Thank you Dr. Lowrey
February 7th, 2006 at 7:20 pmWatch the right-wing wachos try to swift-boat this wonderful man, the Reverend Lowrey.
We're not going to let that happen...Right?
As soon as we hear any talk-show whackos bash him, we ought to clog up their e-mail and telephone lines immediately with our complaints.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:21 pmCheap Shot? Hell, NO.
A Cheap Shot is when you lay a white phosphorous or a flechette bomb in the middle of a wedding party or a neighborhood in Iraq, or Pakistan, or Afghanistan, or the West Bank, or Gaza. That's a Cheap Shot!
When a mass murderer is sitting right behind you what better thing to do than to offer the simple truth about him.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:25 pmWow! I felt like Fred Flintstone for a second. You know when he turns 1 inch tall - after being shocked. The truth hurts and all I can say is....WOW!
February 7th, 2006 at 7:25 pmKudos to Rev. Lowery, for once, the Bushies had to hear the truth from an unscreened and unscripted phony photo op. I would have loved to seen his face.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:27 pmFirst my thoughts go to the King family. May you rest in peace. I'm new to this bogging, so forgive me my ignorance. Whether or not there are paid widgets on this site, I Don't know. Left and right have exibted radicals on this stream. I love America, Ilove America. There is nothings wrong with Americans, there is something wrong America. LET US FIX IT! Left or right there has to be some middle ground. It is up to the people of the U.S. to run our government.All the way right isn't right nor is all the way left right.Blue collar,white collar, black, white,latino, asian,first people,farmers and people who have special needs, we all have special interests. It is in the best interest of ALL to have the interest of all Americans at heart. Every one of us has lost someone,lets fund research or funding to keep that from happening again.( you might have lost a loved one through crime or some insidious disease) LETS FIX IT. No one is PRO abortion and no one is pro pregnancy.(WITHOUT RESPONSABILITY) Every wedge issue has a law governing it!WE IN AMERICA MAKE THE LAW.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:34 pmThe best thing about paid neocon Rovespawn trolls is how pathetic the level they have descended to. It's laughable to the point of absurdity these days and there is 8 months to go til the election..
They can only attack for spare change and be counted on to never explain since they have no record of success of any kind in this six year long debacle completely of Republican making.
You do have to wonder what their point can be, since they can hardly expect to change the mind of anyone who isn't a Republican and they can't come up with anything near credible enough to convince moderate Republicans to stick around and make the same mistake again.
if you don't like what you heard today, you are really going to love trolling this summer.
And that pharmaceutical glaze on Laura Bush's sourpuss is going to be deep enough to be measured in tree rings by November. Funny what happens to the Bush League every time they are in the middle of an unscreened group . Isn't it?
February 7th, 2006 at 7:43 pmWith all due respect, the speech was a cheap shot. What was President Bush supposed to do under the circumstances? Get up and walk out? he couldn't do that. So, he was trapped in just another publicity stunt. Dr. Lowery: when are your followers going to help themselves and stop seeking a handout?
February 7th, 2006 at 7:45 pmI have to admit ,I cheered when they all told it like it is in front of Bush, he could'nt have them all shot, he is a pigggggg!!!!!
February 7th, 2006 at 7:46 pmThe trolls have been particularly thick lately. They act as a barometer for the truth. More of them means the truth has escaped and needs to be wrangled in. The more they grasp for arguments built upon lies, the more you know it hurts.
I wonder if there are still any trolls that really believe their own spew. Could anyone as involved in writing about politics be so uninterested or uncaring of the truth that they just... follow along?
Poor little trolls.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:49 pmThe reverend should have pointed out, also, that the only reason that sick being behind him was in office was because of the disenfranchisement of so many black voters, especially in Ohio and Florida. Weapons of Mass Destruction were used by the GOP to put their neocon agenda into action and to result in the deaths of many thousands of people ever since this disgraceful "administration" took (literally) office.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:51 pmLet's not forget, these GOP butchers knew well in advance about 9/11 coming, and they did nothing to stop it, and there is strong evidence they even abetted it.
The audience at the funeral service should have, en masse, made a citizens' arrest of the demented demon who sits in the White House.
Amen, brother.
I AM BLACK AND A VIETNAM VET. I SEE ALL OF THE bUSH SUPPORTERS SPOUTING VILE AND VENOM. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ALL OF THEM...WHY ARE YOU ASSHOLES WRITING BLOGS INSTEAD OF PICKING UP A M16, PUTTING ON YOUR BATTLE FATIGUES AND GOING TO WAR TO SUPPORT YOUR FEARLESS CHICKENHAWK LEADER. uNLIKE HIM, I DID 6 YEARS ACTIVE DUTY AND I SHOWED UP.
SO, WHY DO YOU GUYS SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO WON'T SERVE IN THE MILITARY IN DEFENSE OF THIS COUNTRY? WHAT WAS IT THAT THE CONGRESSWOMAN FROM OHIO SAID...COWARDS CUT AND RUN, MARINES NEVER DO. FROM WHAT I HAVE READ, THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IS FULL OF COWARDS.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:56 pmAshes to ashes, dust to dust... We start from a seed and end as dirt.
The death of a person makes you realize how trivial all of this is.
President Bush deserves to be impeached.
But it was in poor taste to politicize this women's funeral. And it is in poor taste for all of you to rejoice in their efforts. Many of the men on this blog certainly are not gentlemen, and many women don’t deserve the distinction of being a lady.
It's great President Bush was forced to listen to dissent (goodness knows he doesn't do that enough), but don't cheapen the death of a human being by pumping your fists as the lemmings do... else you risk becoming them in different clothing.
If you’re going to stand for principle – stand for principle.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:56 pm295 Right. It was a cheap shot on 911 too. You can't expect the President to just walk out. They kids would have called him poopy pants and he would be sad. Better read a while.
The Lyin King deserves no respect whatsoever!
You get what you give.
Bush has no respect for the Constitution.
February 7th, 2006 at 7:58 pmBush has no respect for humanity or nature in general.
There's no room in Bush's mind to respect anyone or anything. He's already so full of himself.
Good, it is about time that somebody trapped his ass and made him listen to the majority of the population's opinion of his whacked out policies.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:00 pmmparker,
There are only a few of them posting under multiple names. Look at how and what they post and you will see who is posting under multiple names.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:02 pmHow much more money will disappear or be lost from the "new budget 07? The rich get richer .....
February 7th, 2006 at 8:03 pm300)
You forgot who this woman was, what she did, and why. She didnt have special moments when tyranny was to be overlooked. This isnt a ball game. You dont shake the hand of the winner after it is over. This is about peoples lives and the fight is never over until liberty has been achieved. The crimes commited by these people are in YOUR name, MY name, Ben Franklins name, MLKs name, And Loretta Kings name. This was one more for her. One more moment of truth in the face of wrong. That was her life. What a fitting end that others continued the fight with her right there amongst them.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:03 pm#302 - ever hear of free elections. They're the things you can't seem to win.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:10 pmThen why did Bush bring up both King and Parks names in his SOTU.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:11 pm305 ...Correta ...not Lorreta ...>-(
February 7th, 2006 at 8:11 pm306)
When we have one let me know.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:11 pmAnd the lowliest of all trolls crawls out from under his bridge.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:11 pmWith all due respect, the speech was a cheap shot. What was President Bush supposed to do under the circumstances? Get up and walk out? he couldn’t do that. Comment by JMU — February 7, 2006 @ 7:45 pm
Cheap shot? This was the funeral of a political and civil rights activist. The least Pres Bush (and you too), was a mention of the staggering poverty levels in the US, and the sorry state of things when billions of dollars are being spent on a war -with no discernable, tangible benefit for the American people.
So, he was trapped in just another publicity stunt.
Rev. Lowery's criticisms have no substance or merit. Right.
Dr. Lowery: when are your followers going to help themselves and stop seeking a handout?
Ah, the welfare queen myth is making a comeback... I haven't heard the people from new Orleans (for example) asking for handouts, but for help from their government. Is that too much to ask?
February 7th, 2006 at 8:12 pmI haven’t heard the people from new Orleans (for example) asking for handouts, but for help from their government. Is that too much to ask?
For the racists in the republican party it is too much to ask. They hate America, the Constitution, Jesus, and people that dont look just like them.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:14 pmHey spudge what's "Garys" other name or names?
Did you ever find different ones using the same names? Rotating?
I'm thinking call center slaves or Young Republican slaves.
Maybe just slaves in general.
Gary gets a happy meal per shift, then back to the rock. Under that is.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:16 pmever hear of free elections. They’re the things you can’t seem to win.
Comment by Tetra King — February 7, 2006 @ 8:10 pm
Have you heard of accountability and facing the consequences of one's actions? It's the thing Pres Bush and his minions can't seem to accept.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:17 pmAbout W,
February 7th, 2006 at 8:25 pmForgive him Father, he knows not what he does. I think I read something like that in a book that I once read.
Thank you for speaking up Reverand Lowery. Watch your backside for a visit by the IRS. I'm sure the swift boat lies will begin soon as well. The president would hear more dissent if he spoke to groups of real Americans. Not the scrubed crowds of select conservative republican tight assholes only. Eat shit King George, your America sucks.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:26 pmWe citizens were duped into an illegal, unjust war. No, not war, invasion-occupation. Our treasury is raked, our budget ruined, liars, firings, deceptions bending the rules to suit them, promoting fear...and they keep asking for money.
No, our country needs to stop this onslaughtof crooks. Rev. Lowry shows how to unify and speak back at a pivotal moment. Keep going.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:27 pmFolks, spell this man's name correctly - think lower and add a y. No criticism, but a memory tool.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:31 pm#316 - Nah.
Paula Zahn just showed clips of the speeches. Lowery was just ginning up the audience - alot of them feel that way. But, 41 took a few friendly swipes at him. AND then Hillary and Bill joined in. It was hilarious - what's the big deal?
February 7th, 2006 at 8:31 pmRev. Lowery, God bless you!
February 7th, 2006 at 8:36 pmIt's a shame that these people have nothing better to do than disrespect the US President. They should be focused more on taking care of their families and earning a living. Instead of listening to this joker and Jesse Jackson, they should be listening to Larry Elder http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4145. If they got off thier asses an went to work they wouldn't need the hand out from Uncle Sam. They would be able to pay for their own healthcare and meals and may be buy thier lincolns with cash. :)
February 7th, 2006 at 8:38 pmWow, you saw some clips, so you know the whole story.
That is the problem with you righties. You base everything off of clips and opinions.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:39 pm318 What an awesome way to remember Lowery spelling! So glad you took the time to draw our attention to it. Flo on!
February 7th, 2006 at 8:41 pmGood one. So, everybody that listened and agrees with Lowery is on welfare. You are a fvcking genius.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:41 pmUh oh! We don't want any reality hitting our man Bush! He may just launch another "al Qaeda" attack against America to retailiate! Look out, world! The boogeyman! Cretin.
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February 7th, 2006 at 8:41 pmSince when did the truth become a cheap shot?
February 7th, 2006 at 8:43 pmNEOCONVICT,
Diebold was decertified by California already, so our votes will count.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:43 pm#299 jUBARI, I too am a Vietnam-era veteran who is sick to death and mad as hell of the chickenhawks who never served, but call us traitors if we dissent from Bushitler's Bushit. I tell these fucked-up assholes, "I don't see YOUR ass in the army, so don't wave the flag in my face". I'm white and I served my full 6 years, unlike the deserter Bush, and multiple-deferment cowards like Cheney, Ashcroft, Wolfowitz and others too numerous to list.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:44 pm321 - FRANCIS,
February 7th, 2006 at 8:44 pmThere was no disrespect delivered against Al Gore!
I love the thought of Bush being pummelled every time he is required to venture into the real world. He's been hiding behind 'controlled crowds' and Secret Service stooges that evict anyone that might possibly disagree with his war crimes, greed and corruption. Treat him with the contempt and loathing he demonstrates for the Constitution and non-billionaires.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:47 pmIf they got off thier asses an went to work they wouldn’t need the hand out from Uncle Sam. They would be able to pay for their own healthcare and meals and may be buy thier lincolns with cash. :)
Comment by FRANCIS — February 7, 2006 @ 8:38 pm
I see: all the people in need of help are lazy, and are only looking for handouts. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
As I mentioned before, nobody is asking for handouts but many are in dire need of help:
Katrina Evacuees Face Hotel Deadlines Anew
Update 5: Thousands of Katrina Victims Evicted
That the Bush administration chooses to neglect the needy at home while spending billions of dollars in an ill-conceived war abroad, speaks volumes of their priorities.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:48 pmAll they needed was Kanye to be up next.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:49 pmHey Gary,
February 7th, 2006 at 8:49 pmYou should feel lucky that King George was even there to take an earful. If I were in charge of funeral arrangements, I would have called the WH and told them not to bother to showing up. "Your not welcome here white boy". That would have been the ultimate insult to King George's America.
#330,
February 7th, 2006 at 8:50 pmThose aren't Secreet Service, they're political stooges.
My spouse is a volunteer in an uplift program - the number of people who shed the bonds of poverty is nothing short of amazing. W is trying to hamstring them with his "all children left behind" program.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:54 pmto Francis#321; Your fearless leader has to earn our respect. In my world, that is how you get respect. What has "W" done to earn your loyalty?
To Bushater#329
February 7th, 2006 at 8:54 pmTo my fellow Veteran...thank you. What we need is for more of our brothers to step up to the plate.
JABARI,
February 7th, 2006 at 8:56 pmTwern't me, maybe 328?
God Bless Rev. Lowery. About time some Christians take a firm stand against the President's lies.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:56 pm#299 and I am sure you support draft dodging Clinton too.. You let the Kook Left get into your soul... Tell Those Progressives that Jesus does not approve of Homosexual union and Baby Killing... But here you have honest folks aligned with the liberal looney left... I say honest black folks are closer in line with Conservative values than progressive liberal garbage that drags America down... It will work itself out eventually. Remember the Democratic party of FDR, JFK and LBJ was honest hard working fought for civil rights and was fair this new age Democrat party sucks...
February 7th, 2006 at 8:57 pmI guess that they didn't learn anything from the Wellstone memorial. Hope this doesn't blow up in someone's face and they end up with an idiot like Norm Coleman representing them.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:58 pmto Jabari. thanx for your approval soul brother.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:59 pmRev. Lowery's comments show the kind of courage in public that is all but extinct today. The president needs a mirror, not a tinted window on reality. Cheap shot? What was Lowerey supposed to do, sweep real issues of social justice under the coffin of Mrs. King? Speaking the truth to power is a lonely place to be. How many men or women, given an opportunity to viscerally affect the president would take the opportunity to do so? What do you think George and Laura talked about in the limo back to air force one? This is personal folks.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:59 pmFolks, spell this man’s name correctly - think lower and add a y. No criticism, but a memory tool.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:02 pmSO, then we find out that this is what Martin Luther King wanted said at his funeral and we know that Coretta Scott King was on the same exact page.
http://www.afsc.org/pwork/1298/declead4.htm
Sounds like he wanted anti-war and anti-pverty speak at his funeral. Coretta would have wanted the same thing as he.
Stupid trolls. Don't know shit from shinola.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:07 pmOUCH.....First booed at the Pope's funeral now Bitch-slapped at Mrs King's funeral. No wonder he won't attend any Soldiers memorials!
February 7th, 2006 at 9:09 pmLUVIT!!
February 7th, 2006 at 9:12 pmThe Rev. Joseph Lowery: An American Prophet Speaks Truth To Power ...
The Rev. Joseph Lowery, one of America’s genuine heroes, spoke today at the funeral of Coretta Scott King. With President George W. Bush standing directly behind him the civil rights veteran and peace activist told the audience that Mrs. King,...
February 7th, 2006 at 9:13 pmBy the photo did W have to go #1 or #2. Where was KindofSleezy when he needed to submit a "Can I go to potty note" as in the UN General Assembly?"
February 7th, 2006 at 9:17 pmI thought President Bush was gracious and humble at Mrs. King's funeral today. It thought Rev.Lowery used her very personal and sorrowful time to soap box his political views. Poor taste from a older gentelman.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:21 pmRev. Lowery tellin like it is. Love it!! Right here in my home town (well, up the road apiece), in the oh so red state of Gawga. And, for what it's worth, freep the poll of the day at CSpan..."Are you in favor of warrantless wire taps IF they prevent an attack?" BIG ass IF! Click on 'more headlines', .
February 7th, 2006 at 9:23 pmAmen, Dr. Lowery! Amen!
February 7th, 2006 at 9:25 pmIt thought Rev.Lowery used her very personal and sorrowful time to soap box his political views. Poor taste from a older gentelman.
Comment by MJP — February 7, 2006 @ 9:21 pm
Repeat with me: This was the funeral of a political and civil rights activist.
How can you not expect a political comment? It was only appropriate.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:26 pmSorry, here's the link,
February 7th, 2006 at 9:27 pmWell, the link isn't posting...c-span.org.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:27 pmjust flippin' around the radio dial tonight I can hear the right wing garbage mouths messing their panties over this one. Why not some indignation over torture,rape,blowing innocent people to tiny bits, using phosphorous to burn through people's skin,not supplying our troops with life saving gear and equipment, the victims of Katrina etc.?
February 7th, 2006 at 9:39 pmGod Bless Reverend Lowery. Mr. Bush and his ilk are spending more and more money to kill people and intend to push more and more people, the widows and orphans, into poverty to pay off this nations debt on these ill-conceived and evil wars for oil and profit. God help this nation and this planet. I wish there were more Reverend Lowry's not afriad to take our President to task at the funeral of a man who stood for peace, truth and justice.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:49 pmI could not have said it better myself. Let us hear more people having the courage to speak out in public,particularly members of the democratic party
February 7th, 2006 at 9:51 pmBless Rev. Lowery and all the 'like hearted people' who tell it like it is whenever and wherever the opprotunity presents itself to stick it/to in the "Asses of Evil" and the head Chimp. Bravo!
February 7th, 2006 at 9:54 pm[...] Personally, I loved Coretta Scott King’s funeral. And the day we have to conduct public funerals of civil rights icons according to the preferences of the very people who have been sticking it minorities with a vengeance will be a very, very cold day in hell. [...]
February 7th, 2006 at 9:55 pmAmerica with more then 300,000,000 (three hundred million) people. Where are they? WHY is there no revolt against this cancerous tumor called the Bush Administration, to deal with this you have to use the stongest medicines available....... IT'S CALLED, PEOPLE POWER, The cure is out there, all you need is COURAGE. Dr. Lowery can't possibly be the only one amongst all those millions, so don't just praise him, FOLLOW HIM ! ! !Get some momentum going
February 7th, 2006 at 10:01 pmRev. Lowery walked the walk with Rev. King and Coretta Scott King,along with many others, he has EARNED the right to SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER, if Bush doesn't like the truth he should work to change it, and if you trolls here don't like too Fvcken Bad, Like Bushater, Jabari, WaltTheMan, I also wore the uniform in combat but in the southwest asia not southeast Asia, and I can state this with out reservation Rev. King and Rev. Lowery did more for protecting uor constitution than I ever did.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:06 pmAbsolutly priceless. It's was time the self appointed king hear what the majority of Americans think about his greedy rule! Taxation without representation!
February 7th, 2006 at 10:08 pmRover wanted positve spin
February 7th, 2006 at 10:14 pmbut only got reverse
wonder what is planned for rover next
could it would it can it be?
Pakidermis Plan.............3
February 7th, 2006 at 10:19 pmRev. Lowery's comments were brave in the extreme.
I noticed that Pres. Bush stood up to applaud after his remarks, but Mrs. Bush sat for the longest time. I noticed her crossed legs on the floor behind Rev. Lowery.
Pity there have been no direct shots of the Bushes during Rev. Lowery's remarks. Can anyone direct me to same, if they exist.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:35 pmWhile all of the trolls here were saying how dare they bring up this stuff at the funeral of Coretta Scott King, this is what went on today while her life was celebrated.
Yahoo!
February 7, 2006
Thousands of Katrina Victims Evicted
So, we can see another large group evicted come next week, then a final large group come March 1st.
Yeah, Bush loves helping the poor and down trodden.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:40 pmSen. Finegold also showed enormous courage on the Senate floor today. You can read the text of his speech here:
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Feingold_President_breaking_law_0207.html
As the Senator says, he is ashamed by the cheering (by Republicans and Democrats) during Pres. Bush's SOTU address last week when he stated again that he will continue to use illegal wiretaps on Americans
February 7th, 2006 at 10:42 pmHi, right wingers! Welcome to reality, facts, and the real world, for there wasn't a false word spoken out of that man's mouth. And that's what has you beside yourselves.
That speech was excellent!
The right is positively foaming at the mouth over this perfectly humiliating slap in the face and no one deserves it more.
Suck it up, crybabies. George gets a rude awakening when he's not in front of his Kool-Aid guzzling, pre-screened audiences, eh?
I'm sure Ms. King approved as well. :)
February 7th, 2006 at 10:52 pmThe remarks by the leaders from the Black Community and the Democratic Party at the ceremony that was suppose to be a funeral for Correta Scott King were totally inappropriate.
Mrs. King should have risen from her casket and walked out in disgust.
There was absolutely no reason for Jimmy Carter to bring up the wire tapping and surveillance of the Kings by the FBI. This surveillance was condoned and approve by Robert Kennedy (D-MA) who was the United States Attorney General under President Johnson (D-TX).
It was totally repugnant that Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery inserted the WMD controversy into a funeral ceremony. He was also very disrespectful of Mrs. King to harp about the aftermath of Katrina at her funeral.
These two personalities are typical of the lack of sensitivity of the Democratic Party. They complain loudly and continuously about the approximately 2200 US casualties in three years of war in Iraq. These are the same bleeding hearts that scream more loudly and passionately about the contrived right of women and their doctors to kill thousands upon thousands of defenseless fetuses each year under their right (?) to an abortion. How many babies have been killed during the past three years for each service person killed in Iraq?
Other words come to mind as more appropriate for the D in the DNC.
They include, but are not limited to:
Demonic
Distasteful
Disgusting
Despicable
Deranged
Divisive
Desperate
The N could be:
Nauseating
Neurotic
The C might be:
Caustic
Corrosive
Crazy
Or they could make their political goals crystal clear of: just call themselves the American Al Qaeda Party or the ACLU Socialist Regime.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:54 pmThe best part for me was seeing George W. Bush smirking and laughing at the end of Rev. Lowery’s eulogy to Coretta Scott King.
I don't honestly believe that Bush had inkling or the intelligence, to understand that he had just been Bush-whacked, in front of millions of viewers.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:54 pmOliver Willis says it best right here:
Amen
February 7th, 2006 at 11:08 pm
having issues with the video... has it been overloaded on bandwidth?
February 7th, 2006 at 11:12 pmGive it a minute, it'll load.
Crooks and Liars has a nice montage from Keith Olberman's Countdown after you are done watching this one.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/07.html#a7063
February 7th, 2006 at 11:16 pmThat reverand for the xtians is probably going to get Vincent Fostered reeeeeal quick. As for Bitch Bush, that coke snorting faggot child molester is going to invade MARCH 28!!! come isreal or high water. He's a crypto jew doing his peoples bidding. What's more is he'll probably stage a fake terrorist attack, like 9-11, and nuke NYC just so he's got the excuse he needs to invade Iran. Nobody'll ask where the WMDs were when we get nuked and he has to nuke them back. How convenient. To bad the jew controlled press won't mention any of this to the worker/slaves of the USA.
February 7th, 2006 at 11:25 pm#339
Jaysus never said a thing about homos you idiot.
He never mentioned abortion either, nimrod.
But he did not like baby killing, thougg he never imagined
it would be done with daisy cutters.
you right wing fascist pharisee
February 7th, 2006 at 11:41 pm[...] The Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery, in keeping with the spirit of political truth-telling set by Dr. Martin Luther King and Mrs. King, said this at Coretta’s funeral today (Think Progress): We know now there were no weapons of mass destruction over there. [Standing Ovation] But Coretta knew and we know that there are weapons of misdirection right down here. Millions without health insurance. Poverty abounds. For war billions more but no more for the poor. [...]
February 7th, 2006 at 11:42 pmThe church fires are of Rovian design.
February 7th, 2006 at 11:49 pmI’m surprised at the right wing press responding to Coretta’s funeral as they seem to be reacting. They are saying that the "Democrats" "used" her funeral for political attacks on Bush. I’m certainly not surprised at what Reverend Lowery said. We Atlantans would have been stunned if he hadn’t carried the message he and Dr. King started with when they founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. That’s what they always talked about, then and now. Coretta would’ve been stunned too if he hadn’t carried the message. What else would Jimmy Carter have said to honor Ms. King? He carries the message of Civil and Human Rights like a one man Band, and I’m sure she would have thanked him. I’m absolutely sure that if she could have given her own eulogy, she’d have brought the same message.
I think that they are so used to Mr. Bush speaking at sanitized gatherings full of soldiers and devotees that they cannot imagine him having to listen to something he doesn’t want to hear. If he hadn’t been there, it wouldn’t have been any different. If there were no t.v. cameras there, I doubt that it would have been much different. Back in the days of the Movement when there were no cameras around, the leaders of the Civil Rights Movement would have preached that same sermon.
And, by the way, what the hell is wrong with telling the truth at a funeral of someone who gave her husband and much of her life to carry the message of that truth? If Bush doesn’t want to hear what the whole Civil Rights Movement was about, if he’s insulted by hearing about Katrina victims and the disenfranchised poor in America, if he can’t tolerate negative comments about his insane war, I’d recommend he stay out of Atlanta Georgia when Coretta Scott King is laid to rest. That funeral was not about his sensibilities…
February 8th, 2006 at 12:06 amI read this story and I immediately said ... "How appropo! Kudos Rev Lowery!"
What better way to honor Coretta than to continue the work that she and her husband gave their lives too all of these years! I have no doubt or reservation that she would've approved.
The second thought that I had ... "Why was George Bush even invited to this auspicious occasion? Of all people in America today he is the least respectful of MLK and everything that he and Coretta stood for. His presence is what I found most offensive.
Coretta will be greatly missed. I have a profound respect for her. She continued to work for Equality and Justice till the day she died. She recognized that the fight for Gay Rights is no different and has a place at the table of the Civil Rights movement. She was clear and concise in her belief that Martin would've proudly stood side-by-side with the Gay Rights activist today - just as Gay men and women stood beside African-Americans during the turmoil and struggle for Civil Equality those years ago.
RIP Coretta - we'll miss you!
February 8th, 2006 at 12:10 amFirst I saw the pic of Laura frowning. THEN I heard what the good Reverend said.
BEAUTIFUL!
I love the thought of Bush being pummelled every time he is required to venture into the real world. He’s been hiding behind ‘controlled crowds’ and Secret Service stooges that evict anyone that might possibly disagree with his war crimes, greed and corruption. Treat him with the contempt and loathing he demonstrates for the Constitution and non-billionaires.
Totally!
February 8th, 2006 at 12:15 amNow we know for certain why Bushie wants only pre-screened Bush-friendly crowds when he speaks. He will get blasted with the truth if he goes outside his bubble.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:30 amHe nearly didn't attend because it was feared that he would meet some opposition.
It was of some comfort to see him squirm behind the speakers of the day.
Bush represents everything that MLK and CSK fought against all of their lives; Bush's attendance was purely political necessity, certainly not something he would have chosen to do today.
I only hope that this is the first inkling, of the greater discomfort and humiliation - not to mention punishment - he will receive in the not-too-distant future.
Seems like the trolls ignore the fact, that at THIS funeral, the Reverand's comment got a STANDING OVATION. The Kings are missed, but their work lives on in each and everyone of us. Glad to know that they are together again.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:31 am#379 and all, did anyone see Kate O'Beirne give her take on the funeral today? She was on TV (Hardball??) and while I have always thought of her as a meanspirited, highly partisan, nasty and angry woman, she managed to become even lower in my estimation. She is a real "piece of work."
February 8th, 2006 at 12:34 amMother-Sister-Mentor-Saint Coretta Scott King's passing and
her Homegoing has opened up the floodgates so that Truth and
Justice might flow like a mighty stream, not channeled by the
BUSH DICKCHENEYSHIP's corporate cabal or commercialized and
imperialized disinformation networks & canned cable coverage!
Not only did The Rev. Joseph Lowery lower the boom on that
pirate in the Office of the President(as well as Haiti, Iraq,
Afganistan, Palestine & New Orleans, NOW) but elected President Jimmy Carter emphasized the gross inequalities
evidenced in the color of the Katrina survivors ill-treated
Bush's 'Land of the fearful and Home of Bravado!' He rightly
and unequivocally stated that Dr. Martin Luther King is the
best person that this country ever produced and that Coretta Scott King's energy and efforts have left us a living legacy!
For those challenging the men and women, who boldly stood up
shining Light on ALL about the lessons of long-suffering and The King's "Beloved Community" still enduring the Empire striking back from Pop's 'points of light' to the Commanders-in-Thieves Bush-DarthCheney, they need only heed the great African voice of Saint Augustine: "What is a government without justice but a band of thieves!" Amen! Alleluia!
Let all in the congregation and in the country RISE UP and
join in singing, together, IMPEACHBUSH.com! Thanks Coretta!
Steadfast in the Spirit,
February 8th, 2006 at 12:39 amMichael-Vincent Crea, Founder & Pastor
One World Life Systems
getrealnow4-
Go back to your little hole, you troll. Mrs. King would have risen from her coffin and spit in the eye of Dubya and his barbie doll wife and slapped the shit out of Condi.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:39 amI’m no republican, but I am also not in favor of irresponsible and inappropriate diatribe at a funeral. A funeral is to memorialize the deceased and celebrate the person and all their accomplishments. Of course, based on all the comments on this page, I realize I am in the minority. No matter what anyone says, a funeral is no place for politics or for someone’s ego to be placated or for their own personal gain. If that is the world and society you all want to live in, more power to you.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:51 amHalleluiah!
Thank you Dr. Lowery!
The speaking of truth is a terrible thing. It is to be naked before God.
Each of us has the courage and determination.
The heart knows the way
February 8th, 2006 at 1:07 amMaybe There's Hope
The passion and clarity of Rev Lowery's memorial to Mrs. Scott King gave me a great feeling about America, a hopeful feeling, it was fantastic.
As a Canadian, I've become very concerned about what is really happening to your great country. Quite frankly, and I can't believe I'm saying this in the 21st century, but America is now in it's first throw's of real fascism.
Things just seem to get more worrisome everyday, but today, well, it was a great day.
I think the United States, like many countries, in the end is made of mostly working stiffs who just want to raise their kids and take care of their family,friends and lovers in a safe place you can call home. The Reverend is absolutely right, the American people need some care and attention right away. The United States military is unbelievably big - global, a budget more than the combined budgets of all Canadian provinces and probably half our federal budget to boot! Nothing needs to be that big, it's time to invest in the American way of life, healthcare, education, infrastructure, R&D - no one can argue the fact that the United States, BY FAR, has invented, developed and marketed the majority of technilogical advances since the US Civil war. When you bring all Americans to the table, amazing things happen, guaranteed.
What my neighbour has never been is a fascist, war-mongering, torturing, paranoid, bullying, arrogant and dangerous world power.
In the end, the American people will always come to their own rescue and do the right thing. Today, Reverand Lowery did the right thing.
All the best, and God's speed.
February 8th, 2006 at 1:25 amLowery's attack was a cheap shot. While in hindsight we do know there were no WMD in Iraq, at the time almost everyone, liberal and conservative thought Iraq had WMD. Ted Kennedy, for one, believed it. French, U.S., and German intelligence believed it. As New Republic editor Jonathan Chait, very far from a Bush fan (incidentally my favorite columnist) pointed out recently, there was no good reason not to believe it. Hussein had dodged the inspectors for years pretending to hide WMDs,paying a huge price for his defiance. Bush was mistaken, but it is unfair to blame him when everyone else was also wrong (for what it's worth, I opposed the war).
February 8th, 2006 at 1:41 amOf course there was political speech at a MLK family funeral. Sure he was a religious figure, but in the eyes of history he will/does have more of a political legacy than most presidents.
February 8th, 2006 at 1:44 amMs Huffington just saw you on Fox again and you certainly are attractivve, intelligent and articulate. But you can't really believe half of what you say or what pops up on your website. Most of the lefties sound like morons.
February 8th, 2006 at 1:56 amGod bless Coretta King and keep her in all youre glory along side her beloved husband.And please lord, if you can find it in youre infinete compassion, mercy and justice please send Bush straight to hell for perpetrating 9/11 as is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt on prisonplanet.com. The documentary "9/11 rise of a police state" has footage of Larry Silverstein,the owner of the twin towers admitting that they used demolitions on 9/11 to bring down bld7. Are you aware that the FDNY has been gagged since shortly after 9/11 when many of them came forward and said that there were indeed explosives going off in the towers. Bush is the worst traitor that this country has ever seen and the mainstream media is helping him thanks to the corporate takeover of all the mainstream news outlets but the facts are undeniable and I believe this documentary absolutely proves that the government perpetrated 9/11.I don't believe you can watch this and not believe it[it also includes footage of firefighters discribing the demolitions in the towers right after the event }.I really wish I was crazy but unfortunatly I am not and the situation I discribed is real.Bush has been doing everything in his power to impose a police state since 9/11 witch was his perpose when he committed his evil deed with some very powerful friends.Please wake up America.
February 8th, 2006 at 2:05 amNot knowing the King family personally, I can only surmise that they approved of the family's lifelong friend saying what he did. So, that is the only thing that matters. If the children approved, it's a done deal no matter what any politico might say. Mrs. King and her family know the truth of the matter and it is up to them to voice any concerns.
February 8th, 2006 at 2:10 amHas anyone with influence wondered why Saddam failed to use WMD against the Satan America invaders if he had them? Was he like the blonde who wore her hair in curlers at her own wedding because she was saving the coif for the reception? What was Saddam saving WMD for when US invaded, if he had them?
February 8th, 2006 at 2:16 amI watched all of the services today. It was dignified, well organized and representative of the life that she lived. The attendants and the speakers were respectful to Mrs. King and all were acutely aware we were witnessing the passing of a world leader. I've scrolled through endless bickering over one speaker's words that some thought weren't appropriate at a funeral. First, this wasn't an ordinary funeral and the words needed to be said. Mrs. King was a pacifist all her life, not just since Bush invaded Iraq. She was the spokeperson for those who had no voice, the poor and the children, long before the world saw their faces as victims of Katrina. Second, it's unfortunate if Bush was disturbed by the words, but this wasn't his funeral. The words were spoken on her behalf because she has finished her fight. Throughout the services, we were challenged to take up her fight, each of us to do whatever we can to make this country, this world, a better place for Americans, for all the countries of the world's citizens, to speak out for equality, to speak out against war, to commit to peace, to demand an end to poverty, to hold our leaders accountable, to remember their empty promises when we go to vote. I truly hope as each of us strive to work with others to attain these goals, a leader will emerge to take us to the finish. Would anyone care what party affiliation a leader has as long as he/she is honest, has impeccable integrity, highly intelligent, the right mixture of both a dreamer of the possible and a engineer of the practical?
I was glad to see Mrs. King honored today, but sad that there isn't anyone on the horizon to replace her. I'm so discouraged with this country I love. There is a meanness of spirit in our government that prevents us from being our best. Our president embarrasses me by his actions while calling himself a world leader. Unless or until this administration removes its policy makers it will continue to lose face with it's citizens here and with the rest of the world. If Bush was publically embarrased today, then he should rethink his policies that are clearly not working. Coretta would approve of that. When you are down, you get back up and go again...and learn from your mistakes.
February 8th, 2006 at 2:50 amWith reference to this news item, I thought it ma be of interest to see the following:
President George W. Bush was scheduled to visit the Methodist Church
February 8th, 2006 at 3:09 am>> outside Washington, D.C. as part of his campaign. Bush's campaign
>> manager made a visit to the Bishop and said to him, "We've been
>> getting a lot of bad publicity among Methodists because of Bush's
>> position on stem cell research and the like.
>> We'd gladly make a contribution to the church of $100,000 if during
>> your sermon you'd say the President is a saint."
>>
>> The Bishop thinks it over for a few moments and finally says, "The
>> Church is in desperate need of funds and I will agree to do it."
>>
>> Bush pompously shows up looking especially smug today and as the
>> sermon progresses the Bishop begins his homily:
>>
>> "George Bush is petty, a self-absorbed hypocrite and a nitwit. He is
>> a liar, a cheat, and a low-intelligence weasel. He has lied about
>> his military record and had the gall to put himself in a jet plane
>> landing on a carrier posing before a banner stating 'Mission
>> Accomplished.' He invaded a country for oil and money, and is using
>> it to lie to the American people. He is the worst example of a
>> Methodist I've ever personally known.
>>
>> But compared to Dick Cheney and the rest of his cabinet, George Bush
>> is a saint."
Fantastic Dr. Lowery ,
Let's not forget that the Speech that may have caused King his life was the following:
Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence
By Rev. Martin Luther King
4 April 1967
Speech delivered by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., on April 4, 1967, at a meeting of Clergy and Laity Concerned at Riverside Church in New York City
Did I see Bush squirm for a change ?
February 8th, 2006 at 3:11 amSomeone speaks the truth!!! Yes! A thousand times yes!
February 8th, 2006 at 3:11 amA fitting tribute to Coretta King.
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Bullshit, Bush was told there were no WMD's and had planned to go to war with or without them before he became president. The downing street memos show their intent to lie and their understanding that they would not find anything. The plame case is all about attacking a mans wife for not supporting the plan. They comitted one treason, outing an undercover CIA agent, to hide their first treason of lying this country into a needless war. Bush is a liar and a traitor and a war criminal. If you don't know that by now your a fool.
I'm being kind.
February 8th, 2006 at 3:15 amGotta love Stevie Wonder.
February 8th, 2006 at 3:36 amRev. Lowery spoke the only truth I've heard since I left America. Thanks
February 8th, 2006 at 3:46 amand Gary Ruppert, please find the rock you crawled out from under and re enter
I think the people bashing Lowery are entirely missing the point. Bush NEVER has an unscripted moment like this when he finds himself unshielded by his many yes-men and
February 8th, 2006 at 4:16 amsycophants. Beyond this, what sort of grounds do ANY of you complainers have to insist that this was not exactly what he wanted? Were you receiving posthumous messages from King's ghost that indicated he would have disapproved? Were you spending years around him and Coretta, figuring out exactly how they wanted their funeral to go? The fact that the President went was an attempt to cash in on the credibility he had gained using THEIR ghosts to paint himself in holy colors in his SOTU address, but I don't see anyone claiming that his mentioning them was "partisan." So, then, a man speaking his opinion has become more politicized than a President dropping civil-rights names to inspire feel-goody impressions of himself. Have our priorities ever been so skewed?
Bush actually goes out of his way to avoid any and all dissent by anyone, and to eject anybody who digresses from the agenda of the day to unfortunate questions about why he is doing what he's doing. When would have been the appropriate time? During one of his "talking points," when someone far smarter than he would have been available to defend his position for him? A free society does not exist when dissent is extinguished, and every leader should be forever listening to the other side and integrating it with his own to be sure he's got his hands on the pulse of his people. Indeed, we may have forgotten this but that is all he is, a servant of US. Does he represent us, and if not what does he represent? After all, if a leader is just, how can he justify having an opinion he cannot quantify and defend? And if his opinion is indefensible, why is he permitted to have it? Even a good idea must be backed up with information, and even a good idea must be measured against his counterpoint.
So, in conclusion, no, the war on peace is not over, there is no "special time" being observed, and the ideas have begun to show signs of rot in them. Now is not the time to be bickering about the appropriateness, but understanding the NECESSITY of these comments. They NEED to be voiced. It is downright TREASONOUS to cover either side of a story. Burying the truth is NOT patriotic, and you shame a good many dead men (the recently deceased in particular) by pretending that the war for our freedom is taking a day off. We have only 3 options open to us, none of them easy, and none pleasant, but they are what will happen. First, we can march in rank and file to the sound of the status quo and be shackled, deluding ourselves into thinking we're "supporting our troops" by applauding their deaths and killings and permanent psychological trauma. The next is to start fighting back, to refuse to accept the lies, and to refuse to be silent, a notion I know Dr. King himself would approve of. The third is to retake this country after the fact, a bloodied, shattered state at a time, by the sword. We still have all the options open to us. Dare we wait and limit ourselves to being pushed to either violence or slavery?
Oh, and another couple of points I wished to touch on, the first being that the this Pres. had the "balls" to do what no other President would dream of. He invaded and occupied a country that had never attacked us, did not announce it planned on it, and that logistically could never hope to achieve any such thing regardless. Of COURSE other Presidents wouldn't do that! Our defense has always been reactive, shoot at us, or shoot at our allies and we march in bravely, but it is not in our nature to bring the fight to them, to BE the aggressor. Our power is a gift that we will squander should we continue to misuse it as a global bully. Certainly prior Presidents were not saints, but I would rate this one unequivocally the lowest. When Richard Nixon (the poster child for sleazy dealings and cronyism) was exposed for the rat he was, he did the HONORABLE thing by resigning due to his misdeeds. When people point out the current Administration's misdeeds, they are told they are providing "comfort to the enemy," a comment most Vietnam-era chickenhawks would remember as a convenient line to whip everyone into fighting their war for them. I say, if YOU want this waterless desert so bad and the spoils beneath, then YOU should take up arms and put yourself in the path of the bullets. Money suddenly becomes quite unimportant when circulation and breathing become privileges rather than rights. Ironically, I would have served in the military myself (would have just finished up a 4-year tour last year, actually) had 9/11 not happened. My friend who was leaving the military found his 4-year tour mandatorily extended an extra three years, and I came to the realization that if I enlisted it may just be a lifetime commitment, and that I was not guaranteed discharge when my tour ended as well.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:45 amNext thing to touch on is the religious aspect. Certainly, Jesus was not a politically-minded sort (he told the truth far too much and wasn't exactly prone to boasting or exaggerating his accomplishments), but many of his principles find themselves thrust into the political sphere due to their universal application. Charity for the poor; forgiveness of another's transgressions; true strength being exhibited by those who stand proudly and refuse to shut up because their words are "uncomfortable." And, above all, rising up against injustice in the established power structure not by violence, but by dissent and example. He never told us to force people to believe in Him but to merely give them the option to do so. Ironic that Bush called this a "crusade" but it gets to the point like so few of his comments do. He honestly believes he is dropping bombs and torturing and interrogating "terrorists" (go back 40 years and change it to "commies" and it's close to the same story) in the name of Jesus, because we have a President who is TALKING TO GOD. Not prayer, not some generic invocation requesting divine protection, actually TALKING, and GETTING RESPONSES. Now, throughout the years, God has spoken through many, but in no recent years has he told anybody to invade anyone, for unfortunately He upholds the principle that even the most degenerate are not beyond help, and they deserve equally the gift of living unmolested. Any trolling types, before you disagree, do understand that it is quite impossible to spin the verbatim words of your fearless leader himself, explaining that God told him to invade Iraq, nor is there any need to. Now, I don't think God is looking forward to more chaos in an already fracturing world, do you? Nor do I think Jesus would approve of the fact that people are committing atrocities in his name when his life stood for no less than the exact opposite. So, then, we can conclude more or less outright that it isn't God he's talking to, but it's a hard notion to swallow as it naturally begs the question, "Who, then, IS whispering in his ear?"
America must now start to take seriously those who believe that the neo-conservatives were directly involved with the attacks on 9/11. Go to http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org
February 8th, 2006 at 5:41 amThank you Rev Lowry,
There is no reason for us to try to go where Bush goes. We are constantly on the defensive.
We need a positive alternative.
The budget of this week is the Stain.
The Pentagon has to be dismantled.
We have Pentagon people running our government the way they have always run the Pentagon, in secret.
Farms/Education/HealthCare need attention.
Farms not Arms
February 8th, 2006 at 6:08 amIt's sad to see my entire party dragged under by the flailing idiots who presently call themselves "Republicans." I declare that the top nine Republicans go out and start their own party, called the "Religious Conservatives," because this is not Republican behavior.
I do not applaud the Democrats for being over-eager to use the funeral as a political platform, but I do think that the Reverend has the right to speak out, especially since he's the voice of the Congregation. If the common man feels upset and disturbed by the immoral and unfounded actions of his government, he speaks out to his peers and is heard.
Bush isn't MY president. Although I am a registered Republican, I did not vote for him. Nor will I vote for his successor. I do not need another liar talking to me about "morals" and "safety" from a seat of power while he/she can't even protect us from themselves.
February 8th, 2006 at 6:13 amIs the video not working ? I am clicking it but nothing happening...
http://streaming.americanprogress.org/ThinkProgress/2006/lowryking.320.240.mov.html
not seeing the video for some reason....
thanks
zed.. from the UK
February 8th, 2006 at 6:14 amFunny, I don't recall any RW outrage when Sean Hannity set up shop outside Terri Schiavo's Hospice Care facility, Calling the wonderful people who work there murderers. And what about all of the people with family members inside, who were forced to run a gauntlet of shrieking Righties, at a time in their lives when they are most vulnerable. Yep, that is some kind of example of good manners, and appropriate behavior right there! And the service was for Mrs. King. Why does the RW think Bush's fine sensibilities take precedent, even over a Civil Rights' leader's memorial service? Why is it always about him? And #339, and all the others who do this too, stop using Jesus as an excuse to be a narrow minded, biggoted as*hole!
February 8th, 2006 at 6:16 am#409
February 8th, 2006 at 6:51 amHannity didn't go to Terri Schiavo's funeral, where he was asked to speak--and then took a shot at Terri's husband while delivering a eulogy either. AND Hannity was not the only one to set up shop outside her hospital room. The events prior to her death was a media circus--not her funeral. The issue is not whether the things Lowery and Carter said, should be said or not. the issue is Correta Scott King's funeral should not have been the time or place to say them. The sad thing is Lowery and Carter made her funeral about Bush, and you can't even see that. By the way, you need to stop equating Biblical teachings with narrow-mindedness and bigotry.
trolls never upset me. Now I have another group of idiots who don't upset me either: PAID POSTER!
Another use of the PAGE DOWN key.
Although when trolls get upset, and puts a smile :-) on my face!
February 8th, 2006 at 6:57 am#410- Yeah, Sean Hannity didn't attend the funeral, and neither did George Bush, for that matter. Or Jeb Bush, Tom DeLay, or Bill Frist. Did they all have a fundraiser to attend? Or did they lose interest, once she was dead, and no longer of use to them? And why is the RW the authority on what was acceptible to say at the memorial? Typical RW arrogance on display. They do not control everything, no matter how much they try. And I equated nothing. I only suggested that narrow minded, biggoted as*holes should stop using Jesus as an excuse to justify their behavior. Just be open about it.
February 8th, 2006 at 7:11 am#412
February 8th, 2006 at 7:20 amIf you can't even understand basic human decency, how can you be expected to understand funeral protocal? Jeb Bush, Tom Delay, and Bill Frist have enough sense not to crash a funeral in order to advance their agenda's. Besides a funeral is about paying respects--not lashing out at your enemies. If you would get off of your high horse, you would understand this.
#413- I am not on a horse, high or otherwise. Why didn't they just go to the Schiavo funeral to pay their respects? Funny how they have enough sense not to crash, to advance their agendas, but lack the human compassion, and the courage of their convictions, to go and lend support to the bereaved. And it is spelled "protocol". You are a silly person.
February 8th, 2006 at 7:43 am#414
February 8th, 2006 at 7:54 amYou're really reaching with this...Did you ever consider the Schaivo family may not have wanted them there--and so they didn't attend out of respect? Do you know if they sent flowers or a card? This isn't about Terri Schaivo anyway, this is about the inappropriatness of using Correta Scott King's funeral to attack Bush--plain and simple.
About Bush-bashing at Coretta's funeral, Martin and Coretta would be first in line to denounce this administration's policies; the Iraq war, tax-cuts for the wealthy, lack of health insurance for tens of millions of our fellow citizens, and much more. If Bushitler & Co can't accept the truth, then change their policies. The King family stands opposed to everything Bushitler stands for. In his SOTU speech, he tried to use Coretta for his own political purposes, so why are the right-wing nut jobs denouncing Rev Lowery for speaking the truth?
February 8th, 2006 at 8:06 amI'm a British citizen, thank the lord ,'im not religious', that the usa finally seems to be waking up to whats going on. you give me hope
February 8th, 2006 at 8:08 am#416
February 8th, 2006 at 8:15 amHow appropriate would it have been if Bush chose to take a swipe at his political enemies while speaking at Mrs. king's funeral?
All Bush has a 911 underpinning. Recognize he is culpable for it, and the rest of his crimes expose themselves and render him stuck.
Watch Loose Change, 2nd Edition.
February 8th, 2006 at 8:24 am[...] So if the Reverend Joseph Lowery wants to talk about Iraq at Mrs. King’s funeral – We know now there were no weapons of mass destruction over there. [Standing Ovation] But Coretta knew and we know that there are weapons of misdirection right down here. Millions without health insurance. Poverty abounds. For war billions more but no more for the poor. [...]
February 8th, 2006 at 8:29 am#418,
February 8th, 2006 at 8:37 amW did take a swipe at Mrs. King - by attending.
I guess Bushie will go back to making speeches at military bases and carefully screened GOP dinners. Much easier to face the crowd.
February 8th, 2006 at 8:41 am#415- And perhaps the King family did not want the Bush family to attend their mothers' service? Why didn't they just send some flowers or a card? Bush could go to some american soldiers' funerals. I am sure the grieving families would be grateful for his support. But he does not go.... to any of them.
February 8th, 2006 at 8:43 am#420
February 8th, 2006 at 8:49 amWacko website.
The left is so blinded by their hatred for George Bush, they see that as long as he is attacked--that's good!
I would have loved to see how you would have reacted if Bush fired back at his critics. Every liberal who could speak would have been up in arms over his impropriety, all the while giving Lowery and Carter a free pass. Free thinkers aren't very fair minded are they.
Those are words of a leader. Media needs to recognize the fear they've created toward our leadership. This is not a dictatorial society! We still have freedom of speech, if you've forgotten- check out any 50cent album, but it seems like the ones who can make a difference say only the same pre-spun, programmed nonsense, Republican or Democrat.
Speak freely!!!!!
Where are the leaders of thinkprogress.org, other liberal media groups???? SPEAK FREELY FOR CHANGE!!!! YOU PEOPLE CAN DO SOMETHING!!!!
WHAT CAN WE DO?
February 8th, 2006 at 8:51 am#421
February 8th, 2006 at 8:53 amDon't be an idiot.
Mrs. King was an important person. It's therefore, appropriate for important people to attend her funeral and to say nice things about her. Which is what Bush did. If he didn't attend you would have lambasted him for not being there.
#423
February 8th, 2006 at 8:55 amRead #426
Bush went to her funeral because of what would be said if he didn't. It was obligatory for him, nothing more. He was extremely uncomfortable the entire time, even before he got a taste of his own medicine.
He HAD to be there, dude.
February 8th, 2006 at 8:58 am#418 Rev. King and Coretta Scott King spoke TRUTH TO POWER for those whose voices were silenced by the oppression of the policies of this country, since she can no longer speak truth to power, Rev.Lowery spoke for her, and since Rev. Lowery was a co-founder with Martin Luther King of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and marched with Dr. King, and along with Ms. King carried the banner of equality for all, no wars for profit, and Jesus's message of compassion (not distain) for the poor and unenfranchised, well his message SHE would have delivered if she could. Your "outrage" at words of truth but not at actions of this administration which causes harm to many , I doubt would fit well with "the sermon on the mount" which was Jesus's message for the living.
February 8th, 2006 at 9:06 amYes, the republicans were sterling examples of decorum, while Bill Clinton was President. Note the lack of blind hatred from them when they called for his impeachment! A very civil discourse, indeed! We are fortunate to have their fine example to emulate. Democrats, take note! Republicans have set the standard.
February 8th, 2006 at 9:07 amAt last, someone have courage to tell Bush what the world think on his stupid war
February 8th, 2006 at 9:10 amIt was an amBush in the worst way on this commemrative day. What would you do to be on the offensive against terrorism and promote freedom for mine and yours? Democrats and Repuclicans were dishonored along with our troops Over There. There is no one answer that can please everybody, if it's up to you, then you do what you can do. This is a different world than it was in the sixties. The game has changed and some have failed to keep up with the times and adapt to a new way of thinking. I hope they catch up before we are left behind..
February 8th, 2006 at 9:15 amLEAVE IT TO THE LEFT TO USE A FUNERAL FOR POLITICAL GAIN, YOU IDIOTS
February 8th, 2006 at 9:19 am"Using politics at funerals worked out really well for Walter Mondale in 2002."
...seemed to work just fine at the Reagan funeral/Bush campaign stop. mmmm, that's good hyprocracy, you can really taste the crow.
speaking of hypocracy, you guys know that Cheney voted AGAINST the MLK Fed holiday back in the day...the same Dick that stood and applauded when "Worst President Ever" mentioned her name during the SOTU. Flip flop?
February 8th, 2006 at 9:31 amDoes anyone have a video of the eulogy by Bernice King?
February 8th, 2006 at 9:41 amI saw most of the funeral on TV and listened to the rest in the car on XM radio. I would have paid admission to be there. Coretta would have been proud! Ted Kennedy was exceptional and Pres. Carter was reserved but made his point. But, Rev. Lowery said what many of us have been waiting to hear from some Democratic leader in Congress. Of course we know what the MSM would have made of comments like those spoken by the Reverend if some Democratic leader had said them......i.e. remember Hillary's comments about the "plantation mentality" of Washington on Martin Luther King's birthday." Chris Matthew and CNN 's 360 with Anderson Cooper had a field day. CNN's website on that day had as its lead story the capture of the journalist in Iraq, but the entire first hour of 360 was devoted to "analyzing" and basically ripping Hillary for the statement. Yeah, it is about "keeping them fair and honest." Too bad, the MSM hasn't made an attempt to keep the member of the Bush Administration "fair and honest" about other issues besides Katrina.
February 8th, 2006 at 9:48 amNo, Rev Lowery had the perfect setting and the perfect opportunity for his comments and he chose them wisely. It was not disrespectful and it was what Rev. and Mrs King were all about during their life journeys. Preaching peace and non-violence can never be wrong! It is time that the religious leaders and people of this country who believe in non-violence protests and peaceful solutions to world problems take the moral high ground and make their voices heard. Thank you, Rev. Lowery. Now, who will be the next person of God and peace to stand up?
LEAVE IT TO THE LEFT TO USE A FUNERAL FOR POLITICAL GAIN, YOU IDIOTS
and how many R's posed next to Rosa Parks' casket for a photo op again?
February 8th, 2006 at 9:49 amProbably the most embarrassing and despicable display by public figures and an ex-president to date. The Filthy Left and the Radical Negroes are determined to set race relations back to the days of Jim Crow. It was a display of utter foolishness and contempt for themselves but typical of King's legacy.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:03 amWasn't Lowery just taking a page out of the Right's playbook, opting for a preemptive attack on the right-wing attempt to use the King funeral as PR.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:07 amWell then, perhaps someone should tell Mr. Bush that he needs to stop using 9/11/01 for political gain, and the excuse for everything they do to us. Any less would be hypocritical of the RW complainers.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:13 amIn response to the criticism of the remarks made by President Carter and Joseph Lowery at Coretta Scott King’s funeral yesterday – has it occurred to the right-wingers that the Bush’s were not welcome at this event? That their very presence was an offense to the 10,000 other attendants of Mrs. King’s funeral??? I found it disgusting that he would have the audacity to even show his face, much less, sit on the dais, like he cares – and I’m WHITE!!!!
I am very curious, and would like to know specifically, if they were even invited?? Or did they consider this to be yet another of their endless entitlements, complete with a photo opportunity to pander to the African American community??? Considering the statistical fact that Dubya’s approval rating among African Americans is 2%, with a +/- margin of error of 3%, which conceivably puts his approval rating at -1%, Jefferson Davis, George Wallace and David Duke would have been more warmly received. I would bet the rent, they were the ONLY Republicans in the room.
Dr. and Mrs. King were the epitome of the “political couple.†Racial indifference, anti-war and human rights were the core of their fundamental beliefs. And unlike the Bush’s, they paid the ultimate price and made the ultimate sacrifice for their beliefs. It was completely appropriate for political statements to be made. If Dubya’s (and the Republican Party’s) sensitive lil’ole’ feelins’ got hurt, THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED HOME!!!!!!!!!!!
To quote a truly great President that Dubya has the nerve to compare himself to – “If you can’t stand the heat….â€
February 8th, 2006 at 10:23 amplease vote the rebloodlicans out of the house or senate or both. gridlock would do us wonders!!! W. looks like he needs a drink badly
February 8th, 2006 at 10:24 amhe Devil Went Down To Georgia...
He was looking for a soul to steal
And he was in a bind
'Cause he was way behind
And was willin' to make a deal...
The roof, the roof is on fire!
February 8th, 2006 at 10:27 amhttp://patrickjfitzgerald.blogspot.com
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."
Thank you Benjamin Franklin
"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves."
Thank you Abraham Lincoln
"Liberty has never come from the government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of it. The history of liberty is a history of resistance."
Thank you Woodrow Wilson
"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home."
Thank you Edward R. Murrow
Seems like many today actually believe the BS that it's necessary to give up certain freedoms to obtain freedom...
this is about the inappropriatness of using Correta Scott King’s funeral to attack Bush–plain and simple
Mr. Lowery is a close friend of the King's and worked along side them to fight for civil rights, I believe he better than you or anyone, including Mr. Bush, would know what was appropriate and what was not at his friends funeral. I tend to believe she would have been proud and standing up in applause just as all her friends, family, and supporters were! I tend to believe the Kings would be of the mind that speaking the truth is never inappropriate.
Seems to me the only ones who call what was said in the President's presence as inappropriate are Bush supporters, I certainly don't hear or see the King family claiming it was.
I also find it amusing that those that are accused of being paid posters, never deny it.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:28 amIt's so refreshing to see someone such as Rev. Lowery have the guts to tell it like it is! Bush isn't used to that! He is a Skull and Bonesman, Illuminati controlled evil puppet and America is dying.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:34 amAmerica get yourself s sorted out
Bush has no intention of occupying Iran. Rather, the goal is to destroy major weapons-sites, destabilize the regime, and occupy a sliver of land on the Iraqi border that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth. Ultimately, Washington will aim to replace the Mullahs with American-friendly clients who can police their own people and fabricate the appearance of representative government. But, that will have to wait. For now, the administration must prevent the incipient Iran bourse (oil-exchange) from opening in March and precipitating a global sell-off of the debt-ridden dollar. There have many fine articles written about the proposed “euro-based†bourse and the devastating effects it will have on the greenback. The best of these are “Petrodollar Warfare: Oil, Iraq and the Future of the Dollar†by William R. Clark, and “The Proposed Oil Bourse†by Krassimir Petrov, Ph.D.
The bottom line on the bourse is this; the dollar is underwritten by a national debt that now exceeds $8 trillion dollars and trade deficits that surpass $600 billion per year. That means that the greenback is the greatest swindle in the history of mankind. It’s utterly worthless. The only thing that keeps the dollar afloat is that oil is traded exclusively in greenbacks rather than some other currency. If Iran is able to smash that monopoly by trading in petro-euros then the world’s central banks will dump the greenback overnight, sending markets crashing and the US economy into a downward spiral.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:39 amBUSH IS A WANKER AND FAILS AT EVERYTHING NOW HES LOST A COUNTRY
well, I think the whole plannet is awakenining.
However, I read something worring -
the Illuminati might be planning total devastation, all over the plannet, starting this year - 2006!!!
We'd all better woke up soon, before we got into the Nightmares' Realm!
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February 8th, 2006 at 10:40 amDemocrats are people of faith just as much as Republicans. Republicans never have a problem speaking aginst politics that they beleive contradict their moral beliefs. The Democrats should learn how to do this as well and I beleive this could be a watershed moment for the Democrats. There is nothing to be ashamed of Democrats using a religious context to speak about their moral principles. The good reverend beleives President Bush's administration has taken steps that are fundamentally at odds with his Christian beliefs. I agree and more Democrats shoudl speak to this: the conduct of this Republican administration is fundamentally anti-Christian. Democrats need to do a better job of illustrating this...Corruption is not a Christian value. America needs a change.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:47 amDemocrats are people of faith just as much as Republicans. Republicans never have a problem speaking aginst politics that they beleive contradict their moral beliefs. The Democrats should learn how to do this as well and I beleive this could be a watershed moment for the Democrats. There is nothing to be ashamed of Democrats using a religious context to speak about their moral principles. The good reverend believes President Bush's administration has taken steps that are fundamentally at odds with his Christian beliefs. I agree and more Democrats should speak to this: the conduct of this Republican administration is fundamentally anti-Christian. Democrats need to do a better job of illustrating this...Corruption is not a Christian value. America needs a change.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:48 amAn exhibition of total lack of class !! Lowery and SlobberingJimmy are both idiots as well as the buffoons who stood and cheered. It amazed me to see the "unReverend" Lowery turn and shake President Bush's hand right after he blistered him with disrespectful remarks. What a moron!
February 8th, 2006 at 10:56 amWonder why Carter, the WORST President in our nations history, didn't bring up the fact that it was a DEMOCRAT that authorized the wiretapping and surviellance of MLK ?
some parting thoughts to this thread....
There were several cable channels last night who devoted some time to a discussion of the political shots taken at W by invited speakers at Corretta Scott King's funeral. I saw some highlights of the now famous 'funeral' of Senator Paul Wellstone in October of 2002. It was much worse than I had remembered. No, it was truly ridiculous. There were speakers at the Wellstone wake who came to the podium screaming at the funeral audience as if it were a pep rally. It was absurd. Now, Paul Wellstone wasn't my cup of tea. But he was a US Senator and I respected his ultimate support of the US Constitution and what it stood for. He was an honorable American. I may have disagreed with him politically, but that doesn't mean that I considered his politics to be insincere. He meant well, but (in my humble opinion) was misguided. But, ...but, a funeral is a funeral. It's a human gathering and reflection of a life cut short and the ultimate sadness each one of us faces when we lose loved ones. It is a time to reflect on lifes' meaning and the hope for a spiritual savior.
I also took the time to look into the background of this guy, the Rev James Lowry. It turns out he is your typical left-wing radical, consumed with hatred and embracing a myriad of radical causes. In 1979 he ran to Libya and bestowed upon the chief Middle East terrorist of that time, Muhammer Qaddaffi, "The Decoration of Martin Luther King." Cute, huh? I wonder if he demanded that it be returned after it became clear that Libyian agents brought down that Pan Am flight over Lockerbie? I doubt it. He met with Yasser Arafat on a number of occasions and made some virulent anti-semetic remarks. There's a ton of those. He also claimed that the CIA was selling cocaine in the Black neighborhoods of Los Angeles. This, during the Clinton administration. Neat, huh? And it goes on and on.... So, this is the guy who steps up to a microphone yesterday and slams a President, who has no way of responding. That, my friends, is a cheap shot. And ole Jimmy Carter piles-on thinking he might still be able to get his Presidency back, or his shattered reputation restored.
Look, there's a time to rip into your political oppostion. Debate is good. Debate is healthy, no matter how vicious it may eventually turn. There is, however, a time and a place. A funeral is neither the time, nor the place. The Democrats embarrassed themselves once again. They lost that Senate seat in Minnesota ( that Liberal bastion, Minnesota!) because of the lunacy/circus that took place at a supposed funeral. They may lose even more support from moderate Americans as what took place yesterday is discussed around kitchen tables across America. You guys blew it, big time.
Mozart
February 8th, 2006 at 11:06 amI have a great idea. Let old Gary say what he wants and no one respond to him. That is what all bullies want. Someone to respond.
February 8th, 2006 at 11:08 amIn response to the criticism of the remarks made by President Carter and Joseph Lowery at Coretta Scott King’s funeral yesterday – has it occurred to the right-wingers that the Bush’s were not welcome at this event? That their very presence was an offense to the 10,000 other attendants of Mrs. King’s funeral??? I found it disgusting that he would have the audacity to even show his face, much less, sit on the dais, like he cares – and I’m WHITE!!!!
Comment by Beverly Hill
The President of the United States of America was in attendance not only in his official capacity representing the People but as a Christian gentleman who wished to honor the lady and the late Dr. Martin Luther King. His comments in memoriam to Mrs. King were beautiful and heartfelt and his response to this despicable partisan attack during this sacred Christian ritual were those of a man of honor and class. The radical Negro community and the Filthy Left in general have always been treated with more respect than they deserve. It's what we do, it's why we're better than you.
(President George W. Bush, New Birth Missionary Church, Atlanta, Georgia, 2/07/06)
To the King Family, distinguished guests and fellow citizens. We gather in God's house, in God's presence, to honor God's servant, Coretta Scott King. Her journey was long, and only briefly with a hand to hold. But now she leans on everlasting arms. I've come today to offer the sympathy of our entire nation at the passing of a woman who worked to make our nation whole.
Americans knew her husband only as a young man. We knew Mrs. King in all the seasons of her life -- and there was grace and beauty in every season. As a great movement of history took shape, her dignity was a daily rebuke to the pettiness and cruelty of segregation. When she wore a veil at 40 years old, her dignity revealed the deepest trust in God and His purposes. In decades of prominence, her dignity drew others to the unfinished work of justice. In all her years, Coretta Scott King showed that a person of conviction and strength could also be a beautiful soul. This kind and gentle woman became one of the most admired Americans of our time. She is rightly mourned, and she is deeply missed.
Some here today knew her as a girl, and saw something very special long before a young preacher proposed. She once said, "Before I was a King, I was a Scott." And the Scotts were strong, and righteous, and brave in the face of wrong. Coretta eventually took on the duties of a pastor's wife, and a calling that reached far beyond the doors of the Dexter Avenue Baptist Church.
In that calling, Dr. King's family was subjected to vicious words, threatening calls in the night, and a bombing at their house. Coretta had every right to count the cost, and step back from the struggle. But she decided that her children needed more than a safe home -- they needed an America that upheld their equality, and wrote their rights into law. (Applause.) And because this young mother and father were not intimidated, millions of children they would never meet are now living in a better, more welcoming country. (Applause.)
In the critical hours of the civil rights movement, there were always men and women of conscience at the heart of the drama. They knew that old hatreds ran deep. They knew that nonviolence might be answered with violence. They knew that much established authority was against them. Yet they also knew that sheriffs and mayors and governors were not ultimately in control of events; that a greater authority was interested, and very much in charge. (Applause.)
The God of Moses was not neutral about their captivity. The God of Isaiah and the prophets was still impatient with injustice. And they knew that the Son of God would never leave them or forsake them.
But some had to leave before their time -- and Dr. King left behind a grieving widow and little children. Rarely has so much been asked of a pastor's wife, and rarely has so much been taken away. Years later, Mrs. King recalled, "I would wake up in the morning, have my cry, then go in to them. The children saw me going forward." Martin Luther King, Jr. had preached that unmerited suffering could have redemptive power.
Little did he know that this great truth would be proven in the life of the person he loved the most. Others could cause her sorrow, but no one could make her bitter. By going forward with a strong and forgiving heart, Coretta Scott King not only secured her husband's legacy, she built her own. (Applause.) Having loved a leader, she became a leader. And when she spoke, America listened closely, because her voice carried the wisdom and goodness of a life well lived.
In that life, Coretta Scott King knew danger. She knew injustice. She knew sudden and terrible grief. She also knew that her Redeemer lives. She trusted in the name above every name. And today we trust that our sister Coretta is on the other shore -- at peace, at rest, at home. (Applause.) May God bless you, and may God bless our country.
February 8th, 2006 at 11:14 amHey Smedley!
I like your Iranian Bourse idea.
But, ...but do you realize what you, Smedley, have come across? Gold, my man...G-O-L-D. Here you've come across this fascinating article as to how the Iranian Oil Bourse is going to destroy the U.S. economy, and nobody knows it! There are professional currency traders in London, New York and Tokio who are just sitting around in bars and strip joints waiting for a tip as to where the dollar/greenback is gonna be in 3 months. And you Smedley figured it out! Why, according to your article the Iranian Bourse is gonna be set-up next month, in March. That's right, March! That sure sends shivers down my spine. Now, here's what you gotta do:
First, call the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad. I don't have the number. Look it up on the internet. Ask the front desk clerk to put you through to William Clark, ...Ramsey to his friends. He may be busy at the moment gathering new evidence for the defense of Saddam Hussein. But keep bugging/calling his room. I'm sure he'll eventually come to the phone. Next, pepper him with questions concerning his article about the Iranian Oil Bourse. Take copious notes, or tape record his comments. Once all the facts, according to Ramsey, are clear in your head and you finally feel comfortable about all of this, take a shower, put on some fresh clothes and run to the bank. Before you do, however, make a list of all your assets and then:
1) hock all your jewelry, as well as those from your close relatives.
2) sell your house, car and miscellaneoous stuff in the garage.
3) put-up your collection of tinfoil hats on e-bay, at whatever price you can get.
4) if you have a gun, rob a bank.
Take all of your accumulated assets and turn them into cash. Next. look-up the telephone number of George Soros in New York. I'm sure he's in the book and he loves dealing with guys like you. Hop a plane, train, car or simply walk to New York. Find George and tell him you want to put all of your money, it's called a 'put' option, on the greenback/dollar plummeting in value next month. Next, find a seedy hotel room and wait.
Once the dollar completely collapses, go to George and collect your winnings. You Smedley should be g'billionaires by then. Take the money and turn it into gold. Next, find a broker who will sell you a South Sea Island. If you contact the estate of Marlon Brando, I'm sure that one may still be available. Next, get on the internet and find yourselves a couple of buxom babes from Rio, fly them up to New York and well, you know the rest. If you plan to convert to Mormonism in the near future, buy more babes! Next, get the hell outta New York and head for your newly-bought island. Get a short-wave radio so you can monitor all the chaos in America and Europe as barbarism takes hold in all the major cities. Sit back and enjoy the sunshine, sip cold bevarages by the sandy beach and snuggle with all your new babes. Ya made it! Ya figured it all out. Way to go! And all from a couple of articles on the internet... Who'd a thought?
Don't forget to write and send postcards...
Mozart
February 8th, 2006 at 11:15 amWell, what do you expect from Tucker Carlson. He's a DUMPLING!**********Reverand Joseph Lowery did the event right. He beat that Bush. Now G.W. take your beating like a Bush.
February 8th, 2006 at 11:46 am#451 Mozart:
I also took the time to look into the background of this guy, the Rev James Lowry. It turns out he is your typical left-wing radical, consumed with hatred and embracing a myriad of radical causes. In 1979 he ran to Libya and bestowed upon the chief Middle East terrorist of that time, Muhammer Qaddaffi, “The Decoration of Martin Luther King.†Cute, huh? I wonder if he demanded that it be returned after it became clear that Libyian agents brought down that Pan Am flight over Lockerbie? I doubt it. He met with Yasser Arafat on a number of occasions and made some virulent anti-semetic remarks. There’s a ton of those. He also claimed that the CIA was selling cocaine in the Black neighborhoods of Los Angeles. This, during the Clinton administration. Neat, huh? And it goes on and on…. So, this is the guy who steps up to a microphone yesterday and slams a President, who has no way of responding. That, my friends, is a cheap shot.
It's good to know that you decided to do some research on Dr. Lowery. It's too bad that you didn't do the same for George Bush. (coke use, alcoholism, draft dodging, etc.) What does Dr. Lowery's past have to do with his close personal relationship to the King family? Are you insinuating that he had no right to be there and speak on his friend's behalf? The idea is ridiculous. You may not like who Dr. Lowery is and you may not like what he said on yesterday, but so what. It wasn't your funeral. Mrs. King wasn't your friend. The family did not ask you to speak. Get over it. I live right in the heart of Georgia and have witnessed personally the civil rights struggle. One thing I can assure you of. If George Bush was not present yesterday, you still would've heard the same words spoken at the funeral. You're making things about Bush when they really weren't. The speeches yesterday were about things that were close to Mrs. King's heart...things that she fought for. The setting was appropriate and so was the context. I can't imagine anyone choosing to censor their comments simply because Bush was in attendance. How arrogant to think that they should've. Besides, nobody mentioned Bush by name. They simply disagreed with some of his policies. This is a free country. Get over it.
And ole Jimmy Carter piles-on thinking he might still be able to get his Presidency back, or his shattered reputation restored.
The only people that don't respect President Carter are ignorant people. This man spends his personal time attempting to make a difference in the lives of the unfortunate. He is the founder of Habitat for Humanity. Are you aware of what that organization does? President Carter doesn't have to do the things he does, he chooses to freely. He is a man worthy of respect. It's a shame that you don't see that simply because he doesn't agree with the policies of this administration.
Look, there’s a time to rip into your political oppostion. Debate is good. Debate is healthy, no matter how vicious it may eventually turn. There is, however, a time and a place. A funeral is neither the time, nor the place. The Democrats embarrassed themselves once again. They lost that Senate seat in Minnesota ( that Liberal bastion, Minnesota!) because of the lunacy/circus that took place at a supposed funeral. They may lose even more support from moderate Americans as what took place yesterday is discussed around kitchen tables across America. You guys blew it, big time.
Mozart
Comment by Mozart — February 8, 2006 @ 11:06 am
You are assuming that some grand democratic stragety was in play yesterday. It simply is not true. People spoke from their hearts in an attempt to honor the life's work of Coretta Scott King and her husband Dr. King. Maybe you've gotten used to people being afraid to speak the truth about what is going on with our government and in the world. I have not. As much as you would like for this to be some partisan attack on Bush, it simply isn't. This was a memorial for a peace activist, civil rights leader, supporter of human rights and dignity, champion of the poor and downtrodden, and surrogate mother of many. She was memorialized by those close to her and those who knew her in the way that they felt honored her life the most. It's so sad that you feel her memorial should've been subject to censorship. You are mistaken. Period.....end of story.
February 8th, 2006 at 11:54 amA funeral is no place for a political soapbox. It's highly impossible for Democrats to attend a high profile funeral without resorting to Bush-Bashing! What ever happened to honoring the individual instead of being greedy when you get airtime?
February 8th, 2006 at 11:56 amI was wondering why Dictator Dumbya would be invited to Ms. King's funeral. At first glance it would seem to be tantamount to inviting the KKK. Rev. Lowery answered my question.
February 8th, 2006 at 11:57 amNow we know why Bush rarely appears in public without pre-screening the audience! I laughed out loud when I heard Rev. Lowery's comments. Bravo!
February 8th, 2006 at 12:04 pm#385 Correction by #385
I'm sorry, I left out "in" before "Bush's 'Land of the fearful and Home of Bravado!'"
More importantly, I mistakenly used ".com" the right website
address is: IMPEACHBUSH.org
YOU CAN CAST YOUR VOTE THERE AND REALLY SHOW SOME LOVE FOR
THE REV. JOSEPH LOWERY'S, PRESIDENT CARTER'S, MAYA ANGELOU'S
UPHOLDING NOT ONLY MARTIN & CORETTA'S LIVING LEGACY BUT ALSO
ERADICATING THE LYING LEGACY TO BE LEFT BY THE BUSH DICKCHENEYSHIP!
IT'S A MATTER WHAT WE CHOOSE TO DO! ONLY "WE, THE PEOPLE" CAN ABDICATE OUR OWN POWER! IT'S NOT A TIME TO BE SILENT!!!
IT'S TIME FOR US TO SPEAK UP LIKE THESE SPEAKERS DEMANDING
"LIBERTY & JUSTICE FOR ALL" WITHOUT BUSH-DICKCHENEYSHIP!!!
A final scriptural/historical CORRECTION for Ms/Mr. Manners:
Jesus repeatedly broke all protocols of the autocratic authorities of his day repeatedly because of their own self-righteous repressiveness against bringing people, together, equally. He even left his own mother, Mary, on the outside when cultural, sick 'spiritual'protocols kept his 'own' from associating with and entering the homes of the likes of those
Jesus loved unconditionally:
"Who are my mother, my brothers and sisters? And looking
around at those seated in the circle he said, "Here are my
mother and my brothers. For whomever does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother." [cf. Mark 3: 31-35]
What the 'Pious Protocol Police' against those delivering and speaking with POWER the "Truth with Charity" to autocratic, authoritarian, self-righteous leaders, like the BUSH-DICKCHENEYSHIP, either fail to remember, to know or are just being either 'good house slaves,' 'good Germans'and now, so-called 'good Americans,' NOT 'good' Chistians is that the Black Church has always been the place, sometimes the only solid ground, if not holy, to meet and speak out: against the vile, vicious, terrrorizing, and torturous treatment, enduring and expanding into OUR day, of the treacherous tyrants of the racist, slave-economy that massacred over 400 Indigenous Nations in the Americas and 'stocked' it with Africans squeezed in into slave ships shitting on themselves, thrown to sharks, suffering deaths in screams, silence, scourging, slavery or strung up on a tree or NOW, have 41 shots drop Amadou Diallo [JAH-LOW!] in
his own doorway! [We will NEVER hear him tell if he was ever holding his wallet before his blood, body & bullets filled his hallway on 4 February 1999!!! WE SPEAK LESS YOU
FORGET WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT!!!]
It is because of the minds, voices and lives of the Kings, Medgar Evers and Malcolm X and so many more, that the BUSH-DICKCHENEYSHIP now, sanctions OUTSOURCING: OVERSEAS SLAVERY!
"Let the Dead bury the Dead!" Jesus told would-be disciples, who looked for ways to wiggle out of the way of one's cross.
Alive and 'kicking it to the curb' for Coretta, The Rev.
Joseph Lowery and company continued the mission of Martin,
Malcolm, Medgar, Rosa, Coretta, Betty and Myrlie leaving Bush only to wiggle and no way out!
What crew do you want to be in "When the POST-KATRINA
[NOT Post 9/11 Reichstag Fraud Fire/FEAR Sequel]REAL Saints Go Marching In?! Thank God the REVOLUTION was televised for a few moments! Now, show your SOUL before they put YOU in a
hole with no one left to speak for YOU!!!
IMPEACHBUSH.org is but a FIRST step of this march!!! LET ALL,
"WITH LIBERTY & JUSTICE FOR ALL" BE IN THAT NUMBER!
With peace, prayers, respect and LOVE,
Steadfast in the Spirit,
Michael-Vincent Crea, Founder & Pastor
February 8th, 2006 at 12:07 pmOne World Life Systems
Poor confederate sympathizing right wingers all bent out of shape because Democrats held an event that paid tribute to Queen Coretta and in the process upstaged thier giggling murderous crime family the "bushs".
Well TOUGH TITTY SAID THE KITTY! Repigs feel as if it is thier right to control every aspect of our lives. If you want only praise for your sickening little pwezident dubya make sure his ignorant ass is kept safe from criticism by making sure he is only seen at "controlled events".
In other words, KISS OUR LIBERAL ASS!!
February 8th, 2006 at 12:16 pmI'm actually overjoyed that the lack of intelligence tends to lean heavily toward left-wing posters. "Dictator Dumbya" very clever! Apparently you have never researched exactly what a dictator does. A true dictator simply kills those that disagree with him.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:16 pmThis is the first time Bush has been exposed to a real, live, unstuffed, all facultites in place, unscreened audience. You can tell from his facial expressions he was uncomfortable but not uncomfortable enough - why can't more people - The dems - stand up like the REV did!!!
February 8th, 2006 at 12:22 pmSee how two very disparate accounts of the same funeral, classic mainstream media bias:
mediabloodhound@yahoo.com
February 8th, 2006 at 12:40 pmwhoops, i mean, see here:
http://www.mediabloodhound.com
February 8th, 2006 at 12:41 pm[...] Bush gets reamed at Coretta Scott King’s funeral. Rev. Lowery told it like it is: We know now there were no weapons of mass destruction over there. [Standing Ovation] But Coretta knew and we know that there are weapons of misdirection right down here. Millions without health insurance. Poverty abounds. For war billions more but no more for the poor. [...]
February 8th, 2006 at 12:42 pmI am ashamed at most of the leaders at the funeral. They used the funeral of a civil rights icon Coretta Scott King to make political statements. Mrs. Kings funeral was supposed to be a time to reflect on her life and contribution to the country. There is a time and place to make political statments and a funeral is NOT one of them. They dishonored Mrs. King memory and they dishonored themselves in doing so. In the future they should leave political statements to forums that are meant for such a thing.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:43 pmBetween his "coverage" of Mrs King's funeral and the on-air tongue-baths he's been giving GOP functionaries from Bush on down, i'm just hoping that someone hires a forensics technician to go down to whichever one of the MSNBC studios where Chris Matthews can most generally be found and dust his chin for Karl Rove's ball-prints
February 8th, 2006 at 12:46 pmSo is imatt insinuating that Bush is not a "true" dictator simply because he hasn't killed anyone. That's not an argument that's a rationalization. Please imatt enlighten us folk who lack your intelligence and school us on what exactly a dictator does because apparently you've done your research. You define a dictator as "true" when they kill someone who disagrees with them. What do you call a leader that insulates himself from true debate and dissenters? What do you call a leader who argues that people who don't agree with him are not patriotic? Thankfully, Bush and company still can't go out and round people up for death. That certainly would even be objected by those of you who have researched a "true" dictator but everything up to that is Ok unless of course you change the definition. Remember folks, right-wingers don't argue facts. They call you names. Lastly, liberalism always wins in the end and they know that. Otherwise, blacks would still be enslaved, women wouldn't be able to vote, we'd all have british passports and be subjects of the king, no inter-racial marriage, gays wouldn't even be able to come out of the closet, etc, etc, etc.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:49 pmDid anyone notice that the queen mother, Barbara, was absent? Is she ill?
It was inappropriate for President Bush to fidget like an itchy child. I don't see how it was inappropriate for Rev. Lowery to comment on our national "values" and our behavior as world citizens, as defined by our President...in light of the fact that we, as a nation, know her for her involvement in shaping both.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:51 pmTo M. Valentine:
I'm proud of them for pointing out the Emperor's lack of clothes during the one time he has stepped away from his pre-screened packs of yes-men and sycophants who insulate him from a whole world about which he is determined to remain wholly and willfully ignorant.
Mrs. King, like her husband, was all about speaking truth to power. This was the rare opportunity to get the message past the filter.
And all of you conservative types getting the vapors over how shameful you think it is, let me just remind you of how quick you all were to deify and canonize Reagan at his funeral and how quick your beloved opportunisic Emperor was to try and imbue himself with Reagan's so-called legacy...where was your well-rehearsed outrage then?
Oh, never mind, i forgot, that sort of thing is only OK if you're a republican.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:56 pm"A dictatorship would be easier, especially if i'm the dicator."
With each sucessive power-grab, Emperor monkey-boy has turned this from creepy, offhand joke to self-fulfilling prophecy
February 8th, 2006 at 12:59 pm#468
February 8th, 2006 at 12:59 pmWhat you want to bet you're just another racist white repeating repug talking points?
You all need to look beyond right and left wing politics...it's all the same! Everything that is happening now is to benifit those who gain to make money i.e. defense contractors and those who hold large investments in those companies. For example the Bush family, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the policy makers of the govt...Richard Pearle. PNAC(Project for a New American Century). Look it up. They're making millions if not trillions of dollars on the wars being waged and it's all coming from American tax payers' money. Please open your eyes and realize that the current govt., dem or rep, is corrupt. We're under control by state run media...voting machines that don't give receipts, govt officials who lie and lie and lie to make money for themselves. It is definatly a conspiracy and greed is a powerful thing. It's all greed for money and power...screw the honest working man who just wants his peace. I'm an educated American and a former Airborne Ranger and I don't consider myself a "radical" by any means, but there needs to be a broad change to our current political system. I applaud Rev. Lowery for shedding a bit of light on the "weapons of mass destraction"...this is exactly what he's talking about. I hope this get to at least one person and you look into what I'm saying and share it with you friends. Peace...
February 8th, 2006 at 12:59 pmOh my the right wing spin machine is on overdrive, trying to "Wellstone" the Coretta Scott King funeral. This is what happens when Bubble Boy has to appear in front of a real audience. This is exactly what the Kings did during their tumultuous lifetimes: they took it right to the power-abusers. Just goes to show the King family is inclusive, they even invited our racist president. And good for Jimmy Carter bringing up illegal wiretapping and the shameful Katrina situation. Good for Rev. Lowery bringing up the big lie about WMDs.
February 8th, 2006 at 1:01 pmIt is a shame when Politics rear it's ugly head a great woman's funeral. You hvae to like G. Bush's I's comments. Why are you Democrats still upset that GW beat you. Hillary will lose too, can't wait to see Kerry or Gore run again in 2008. Grow up.....
February 8th, 2006 at 1:01 pmFor #468:
You sound like every racist that the Kings and their followers had to fight: always telling black people to shut up, this isn't the time and place, etc. Same old story. Now is the time, this is the place, especially the funeral of such a great civil rights leader. Nothing could be more appropriate.
February 8th, 2006 at 1:04 pmSo is imatt insinuating that Bush is not a “true†dictator simply because he hasn’t killed anyone. That’s not an argument that’s a rationalization. Please imatt enlighten us folk who lack your intelligence and school us on what exactly a dictator does because apparently you’ve done your research. You define a dictator as “true†when they kill someone who disagrees with them. What do you call a leader that insulates himself from true debate and dissenters? What do you call a leader who argues that people who don’t agree with him are not patriotic? Thankfully, Bush and company still can’t go out and round people up for death.
February 8th, 2006 at 1:04 pmThat's about the dummest thing I've read in a long time. Dictator? You have no friggen idea what Dictator is, you moron... How utterly stupid of you. You live in a fantasy world of make-believe and group think. I only wish that one day you would live in a world of a real Dictator, instead of your fantasy BS....
Mozart
Don't you guys know the GOP will only benefit from what happened at the funeral? Seriously, the GOP is smiling.
Not to be rude, but you guys are a bunch of brain-dead wacko liberals!
February 8th, 2006 at 1:11 pmWhat is wrong with you people? This is a funeral, not a political stage. A funeral is no place to be making political statements. Dare I say that Mrs. King would not agree with bashing the president at a funeral! I have no problem with voicing opinion, but there is a tome and a place for it and a funeral is neither. This is a disgrace to America to treat a time of rememberance like it's just another chance to pass political agenda. Especially the funeral of such an important person. Mrs. King was a wonderfull person and more respect should have been shown for her.
February 8th, 2006 at 1:12 pmExcellent posts...!
February 8th, 2006 at 1:23 pmTo Crapture:
First of all i'm neither conservative or liberal, republican or democrat. To me Bush is one of the worst presidents in office and Reagan, I saw when he was in office that crack spread like wild fire and he did nothing about it. His so called legacy, what can i say but what legacy. High crime, high unemployment, making neighborhoods into war zones if thats a legacy then there is something to be desired.
You're missing the point, Mrs King Funeral is a spiritual moment. Above all she was a peaceful woman like her husband. And that is what should have been reflected more among the leaders. Not a chance to ridicule but to focus on her life.
If you can not understand, then you do not know much about her life and what relationship she has with GOD
February 8th, 2006 at 1:35 pmMozart: Dead right! (479)
People claiming Bush is a dictator need to be better versed in history. The humerous thing is that most of those people probably weren't old enough to vote until this past election - if then.
Joaquin: (470) Bush never said those that disagree with him are unpatriotic. You probably heard that from Al Franken.
The issue here was were these speakers out of line... and they were. It should have been a moment of respect, but was twisted into a spin machine.
February 8th, 2006 at 1:39 pmSpeak Truth to Power!
February 8th, 2006 at 1:48 pmA few thoughts on Jimmy Carter...
Whenever you hear this guy talk, you always hear a latent bitterness in his tone. It's as if November 1980 was just yesterday and he still can't believe he lost. There was a book written by his then Chief of Staff, Hamilton Jorden, who described the last year (1980) of his Presidency. I am sure the book has now been relagated to the back shelf of many public libraries. But in the book, Jorden describes how Carter reacted to the hostages taken by fanatics in late 1979 in Teheran. He was obsessed with it. He fumed day and night over it. He felt that those 53 Americans were HIS personal responsibility, ...53 Americans out of 270 million! The entire government of the United States ground to a halt. Day after day, week after week, Jimmy worried about those Americans being held captive in Teheran. There was very little accomplished in legislative agendas for Democrats on Capital Hill. The US economy was suffering some of the highest interest rates in nearly 5 decades. Paul Vocker jacked-up interest rates to keep inflation from spiraling out of control. There was malaise in the air, especially in the mind of Jimmy Carter. It was an astonishing time in history and Jimmy lost the presidency because of it. He's still bitter to this very day. He hates everything about Republicans and he despises every political action taken by a Republican President no matter what the outcome. Jimmy Carter is a fool. He's an imbecile. He's a man obsessed with trying to get his presidency back. What he did in Atlanta yesterday was classless and disgusting. I'm embarrassed to say that he was a former President. What a jerk...
Mozart
February 8th, 2006 at 1:49 pmInappropriate actions...
Per request. Rev. Joseph Lowry: She extended Martin's message against poverty, racism and war. She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over there. But Corett...
February 8th, 2006 at 1:54 pm#474
First of all i'm black always have been and always will be.
February 8th, 2006 at 2:02 pmTo define what color i am causes me to stupe to your level of hatred. To make this clear her funeral is a spiritual time not political is all i am saying. Put your hate a side and you will see the differnce. This is from one black person to another.
I am enchanted by those "strong"guys worrying
about
by Rev Lowery.
as well
as a man who rather easily -- for his own agenda--
sent our young men and women off to war insufficiently
armored,or protected in any way.
As the saying goes, he's hard as nails. A man who really
February 8th, 2006 at 2:10 pmworries about who he is, is very circumspect about his
behavior and that of those who represent him. The bulk of
what we "talk" about here are his outrageous and fully
non-religious behaviors and those equally unmoral behaviors
of those with whom he has surrounded himself --like the
attorney general.
#478
Do not put words in mouth. As a black man in a proper forum would never tell another man of any color to shut up. Again and please understand a funeral is a spritiual moment in GODS house to reflect. Remember SPIRITUAL not POLITICAL.
February 8th, 2006 at 2:14 pmBecause in the end its our spiritual relationship that will save us not political.
#491
How sad, you're either paid to write this or you have a mental competence of a person with an IQ smaller then your shoe size........ you poor person, God is saddened to see people like you.
February 8th, 2006 at 2:43 pmQuote:
How sad, you’re either paid to write this or you have a mental competence of a person with an IQ smaller then your shoe size…….. you poor person, God is saddened to see people like you.
What are you writing? How dare you insult another person for just giving an opinion!
This is NOT about free speech.
That aint the point. The point is that a 'funeral' is not the place to take a swing at the President. What's he supposed to do? Get-up and walk out? Demand rebuttal time? It was a classless thing to do..
If ya wanna fight politics, fight it where everyone can participate in the brawl.
But at a funeral? What the hell is that?
Mozart
February 8th, 2006 at 2:56 pmI never didn't notice Reverand Lowry, or Maya, or Jimmy Carter mention George W. Bush by name.
Why do conservatives assume that words like Injustice, Violence, and Lies were meant to embarrass the president?
Doesn't their outrage accuse their man of being synonymous with these things?
Now why would they assume that?
February 8th, 2006 at 2:56 pmA funeral became a political stage. It was a complete shame. Bush held his cool. He wins.
February 8th, 2006 at 2:58 pmTo #487:
You should perhaps go and find that book on Jimmy Carter (the one on the back-shelf in the library according to you) and READ it. Is something wrong with a President who is concerned for the well-being and welfare of his/her citizens? Has this become such an alien concept? Are you so used to people in high positions, including the presidency, who are only concerned about themselves and their cronies? Eg. The Katrina disaster!
No President of the United States has achieved what Jimmy Carter achieved after leaving Office. Jimmy Carter did not receive a Nobel Peace Prize for whittling wood in Georgia! Habitat for Humanity was founded and is still supported by both him and Mrs. Carter. He has been the Official Observer at umpteen difficult elections in sometimes very dangerous places.
By no means do I suggest that Pres. Carter is a saint. And I am sure that he was hurt and disappointed when he lost the Presidential elections. He would be the first one to admit that. But he sure did not just go home and feel sorry for himself.
Please, let's be just a little less partisan and at least give him the credit his life and efforts are due.
February 8th, 2006 at 3:09 pm#235
No comparison between Dubya and the money changers? What kind of dope you smokin'?
Every piece of legislation is rewarding the rich and penalizing the poor.
Of course he is our "sitting" President. He has never "stood" for anything.
Education? Texas was 4th in the nation when I was a child, nw it is 48th.
He and his father both ran on education. Then, they both diverted the funds from education to defense. Now, our smart bombs, unlike our high school students can find Kuwait.
Truth is not a cheap shot. Jesus understood righteous indignation.
As for your Ten Commandments:
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors oil.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighor to steal thy neighbors oil.
Thou shalt not steal thy neighbors oil.
Thou shalt not kill thy neighbor to steal their oil.
Once upon a time our pResident challenged "Bring it on!"
Well, the Reverend "brought it on"
#223
I guess the South finally used it's hatred to destroy the Union, by voting for this lowlife pretender. You win this argument.
February 8th, 2006 at 3:19 pmTo John V
You must not be a spiritual person to make a comment like that. I just see how ignorant you really are in your comment. Here is some mental competence from someone with a low I.Q. Read the bible its in all the of Jesus's disciples books when Jesus got angry with the people when they were gambling in the church. Also read the Constitution especially the part about the separation of church and state.
P.S. Thanks for having my back Mozart
February 8th, 2006 at 3:19 pmChris Matthews!!! Why do some whites in America love to tell Black people how to conduct their Funerals and events. And lecture them on what is appropriate or not appropriate to say at their events.
Sunday and Churches remain Americas most segregated institutions!!
The appropriate thing to do is for whites to stop telling black people how to run their business!~! MYOB!!!!
February 8th, 2006 at 3:22 pmLook at the way Bush is sitting. He is farting and Laura knows it by the way she looks.
February 8th, 2006 at 3:26 pmQUOTE: You should perhaps go and find that book on Jimmy Carter (the one on the back-shelf in the library according to you) and READ it. Is something wrong with a President who is concerned for the well-being and welfare of his/her citizens? Has this become such an alien concept? Are you so used to people in high positions, including the presidency, who are only concerned about themselves and their cronies? Eg. The Katrina disaster!
Ok, I'll bite. The point I was trying to make is not whether or not Jimmy Carter was a good and decent man. In my opinion he is indeed a good man. Nevertheless he still made a fool of himself yesterday. Furthermore his Presidency was a mess, plain and simple. The point I tried tomake was that you cannot bring the entire United States government to a grinding halt in 1979-80 (which he did) over the fate of 53 Americans held hostage in Iran. It's stupid and shows the lack of understanding of what a Presidency is supposed to be. Abraham Lincoln was traumatized over the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans during the civil war. He cared deeply about the young men he was sending out to die in the fields of Antietam and Gettysburg. But that didn't mean he forgot about his vision for America, did it? He could not be responsible for the deaths of individual soldiers, but he needed to chart a course for the nation as a whole. He did that with great success. That's why he's on Mt. Rushmore and Jimmy has to get his accolades from socialists in Sweden. He didn't get it then, nor does he get it today. Being a good man and a good President are two separate things. That's my point...
Mozart
February 8th, 2006 at 3:42 pmI-RIGHT-I
You've done absolutely NOTHING to earn MY respect. You are so disgraceful and ignorant, it's sick.
There is no doubt in my mind that you wouldn't agree with A WORD of what Bush said at CSK's funeral. It's obvious from your posts you hate African-Americans with a passion. I hope you burn in Hell for the hatred you have inflicted upon God's Earth.
I can find NO rational reason for people like you, except for the presence of Satan upon Earth.
I will pray for your lost soul and I hope God forgives you abominable behavior toward your fellow man. God doesn't judge people based on politics, and I find it funny that you feel you have the right to do so.
You are a smear upon the Republican party and the conservative movement.
February 8th, 2006 at 3:55 pmI-RIGHT-I
You've done absolutely NOTHING to earn MY respect. You are so disgraceful and ignorant, it's sick.
There is no doubt in my mind that you wouldn't agree with A WORD of what Bush said at CSK's funeral. It's obvious from your posts you hate African-Americans with a passion. I hope you burn in Hell for the hatred you have inflicted upon God's Earth.
I can find NO rational reason for people like you, except for the presence of Satan upon Earth.
I will pray for your lost soul and I hope God forgives your abominable behavior toward your fellow man. God doesn't judge people based on politics, and I find it funny that you feel you have the right to do so.
You are a smear upon the Republican party and the conservative movement.
February 8th, 2006 at 3:56 pmPoint proven. All they can do is name call. Mozart sticks and stones my friend...sticks and stones. Right winger or left winger no one benefits from name-calling except those in power who want the real issues ignored. By the way I never said Bush was a dictator. I simply was commenting on someones definition of a dictator. I also never said Bush questioned people's patriotism.
Imatt you assumed that I referenced Bush instead I asked a question about a generic leader. Just as Lowery and Carter made reference to recent history without any reference to Bush.
Mozart instead of name-calling how about you tell me your thoughts on a dictator? Otherwise do not waste our time.
As for comments at Coretta's funeral it seems folks who were offended by them seem to forget who she was and what she stood for. How come no one is commenting on what her own daughter said in term of race, poverty and war at her mother's funeral. Why was that not offensive to those of you who find the other comments inappropriate?
"A funeral became a political stage. It was a complete shame. Bush held his cool. He wins."
This wasn't some random black woman's funeral. This was MARTIN LUTHER KING'S wifes' funeral. It was already political. She was so political and for those of you who chose to ignore that then perhaps you should familiarize yourself with what she and her husband stood for politically. It seems you are upset Bush was embarrassed rather than take a minute to understand what these two men were commenting on. So if Lowery's comment was offensive and inappropriate then why was there a standing ovation.
February 8th, 2006 at 3:59 pmSarah,
February 8th, 2006 at 3:59 pmwhom are you referring to?
501,
I guess the fact that Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush made a deal with Iran for arms to NOT release the hostages until after the election carries no historic weight?
They were actively arming the side against Iraq whom we were publicly backing at the time.
This set aside the welfare of U.S. citizens being held hostage in order to gain political leverage.
Why do you think George H. W. Bush is quoted as having said, "if the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts!"
http://www.threeworldwars.com/nwo-timeline1.htm
You can spin all you want, but facts are facts.
I am an ordained Southern Baptist Minister. I am a Texan. I was a registered Republican for over 30+ years....No more!
No more!
As for which is the better "Christian" President between Dubya and Carter. The facts speak volumes more than the "spin machine" can create.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:02 pmAh, I see we're furiously backpeddling from an indefensible position... Typical Liberal. (how's that for name calling?) Of course you called him a Dictator. You throw-out the "walks like a duck, talks like a duck argument and you expect people to ignore the obvious conclusion? You're posting drivel and straying from the topic. What more needs to be said?
February 8th, 2006 at 4:10 pmMozart
#498 #493
M.Valentine and Mozart, I'm not angry with you, I just feel very sad for you. Whom ever it was, must have gotten to you at a young age and for that reason you don't seem to be able to think for yourself anymore.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:11 pmIn your world of organized religion, "a spiritual relationship" is all it takes to always be right. In the real world it's true faith and common sense with an open mind, you should try it some day and really grow up.
God wants you to go out in this world to struggle for what's right.
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I guess the fact that Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush made a deal with Iran for arms to NOT release the hostages until after the election carries no historic weight?
They made a deal? Prove it! With whom and where's the paperwork? You prove that and I promise to vote for W's impeachment. What you have here is an urband legend. What you have here is nada, nichts and Bupkis.
Mozart
February 8th, 2006 at 4:15 pmRe: Gay Marriage, the right feasts on the specter of "Weenies of Misdirection."
February 8th, 2006 at 4:16 pmQuote:
M.Valentine and Mozart, I’m not angry with you, I just feel very sad for you. Whom ever it was, must have gotten to you at a young age and for that reason you don’t seem to be able to think for yourself anymore.
In your world of organized religion, “a spiritual relationship†is all it takes to always be right.
No need for anger. and, you don't even have to feel sad. We're feeling pretty good right now. Life is good! We own the Senate. We own the Presdiency. We own the House. and now, we own the Supreme Court! Life can't get much better!
February 8th, 2006 at 4:18 pmMozart
Mozart -
February 8th, 2006 at 4:31 pmPlease post my comments on where I call Bush a dictator. Then I will gladly quack like a duck. Otherwise, appreciate what you own for now because in the end liberal thought beats out right-wing thought. History has proven that.
So is imatt insinuating that Bush is not a “true†dictator simply because he hasn’t killed anyone. That’s not an argument that’s a rationalization. Please imatt enlighten us folk who lack your intelligence and school us on what exactly a dictator does because apparently you’ve done your research. You define a dictator as “true†when they kill someone who disagrees with them. What do you call a leader that insulates himself from true debate and dissenters? What do you call a leader who argues that people who don’t agree with him are not patriotic? Thankfully, Bush and company still can’t go out and round people up for death.
I rest my case....
Mozart
February 8th, 2006 at 4:35 pmMozart, thanks for showing your true colors, it speaks volumes of who you really are and that you welcome a totalitarianism.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:36 pmYou really are a simpleton and not worthy for debate, enjoy!
Most comments I have ever seen on a thread.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:43 pmJudging by the amount of posts here, someone calling it like it is, infront of the Pres, and the MSM picking it up, is good stuff it tell ya.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:47 pmIf anything, Rev. Lowery has bumped up the traffic at TP.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:48 pmPeople claiming Bush is a dictator need to be better versed in history.
Dictators don't leave office after their terms are up. So many people are blinded by hate that they cannot clearly see the facts.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:54 pm#513
Mozart I apologize, I think the fog is lifting.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:57 pmKeep working on it and don't give up, stay the course.
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Mozart I apologize, I think the fog is lifting.
Keep working on it and don’t give up, stay the course.
Oh, I promise I will! You guys are so inspiring...
February 8th, 2006 at 5:09 pm..a simpelton, eh? ...ah, that's all ya got?
Mozart
I will pray for your lost soul and I hope God forgives your abominable behavior toward your fellow man. God doesn’t judge people based on politics, and I find it funny that you feel you have the right to do so.
You are a smear upon the Republican party and the conservative movement.
Comment by Sarah —
God does judge people based on politics as He judges what is in ones heart. Only a heartless soulless bastard could vote for the Party of Death. When was your last abortion? You'd better come to terms with that before you start praying for my forgiveness. Dumbass.
February 8th, 2006 at 5:11 pmFantastic.
February 8th, 2006 at 5:22 pmI'll be you couldn't stick a dime in his rectum.
I'd still like to get my boot up there though.
I guess that will have to wait until his term is up.
February 8th, 2006 at 5:24 pmFantastic.
I’ll be you couldn’t stick a dime in his rectum.
I’d still like to get my boot up there though.
Comment by vaughns — February 8, 2006 @ 5:22 pm
I have some spare jackboots in the garage, if that'll help?
February 8th, 2006 at 5:24 pmMozart
[...] La vidéo du discours est disponible en ligne : >> VIDEO: Rev. Lowery’s Standing Ovation [...]
February 8th, 2006 at 5:26 pmOne big difference between Black churches and white churches, Black church they call you out, white church tippy-toes around issues. Don't forget the scene in To Kill A Mockingbird, when Scout goes to church with Calpurnia, Georgie boy just got called out in the Black folks church. Sorry I missed it.
February 8th, 2006 at 5:37 pm7 February 2006 left President Bush and the four ex-presidents at the funeral of the widow of Martin Luther King, Coretta Scott King in a media swirl to baffle the public.
The good Reverend did what he could to show the public displeasure with the Bush Administration's attempts to stifle free speech (also, while justifying spying on American citizens at the same time!).
The Reverend's remark about no WMDs but rather misguided ideas in this country were bound to bring the house down. Free speech has suffered so much, however I was pleased to see that Bush just had to suck it up! This is what Bush has had Alberto Gonzales tell the American people about "terror survelliance" (Newspeak for 'domestic spying'), however who voted Bush this kind of power? It was not the American people, so if someone is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the public, they need to know. That is another good reason for the Reverend's remarks being justified.
February 8th, 2006 at 5:45 pmMost of these comments are from people who feel the hard-working citizens of this country owe them something.
To berate the President on the day of remembrance of Coretta Scott King is a disservice to her and the country. The people of this nation were represented by President Bush. To think a reverend would pull this type of political stunt, then gleefully smile after the applause. What an embarrassment to Black America!!
February 8th, 2006 at 5:54 pmI wish they would have laid into Bush about the fact he and his PNAC buddies were behind 9-11 and murdered 3000 civilians and attempeted to fram Muslims. Every chance that this criminal ventures into public, he needs to be exposed for his crimes against the citizens of the United State of America.
Watch this:
February 8th, 2006 at 6:03 pmhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=loose+change
My Webster's defines a dictator as a ruler with absolute power and authority. Not a word about killing or length of term. Until there's some transparency and accountability, I think the jackboot fits.
Bold posts are so obnoxious.
February 8th, 2006 at 6:07 pmGeorge W Bush may not leave Washington when his times comes to step down, all he has to do is create another terrorist attack which he and his lluminati pals did on September 11th 2001 and this time declare Martial Law! And don't think it can't happen! He is a liar and a thief and he hates the poor and is deliberately bankrupting America, all in the name of greed and power (Aka-New World Order)
February 8th, 2006 at 6:34 pmTo the trolls, paid posters, lurking loonies, and any other malicious creatures out there:
I want to go on record right now. I do not want George Bush at my funeral. If for some reason he is impudent enough to attend my funeral anyway, it is my solomn wish that my family, friends, and loved ones speak truth to power to attest that everything my life stood for was in opposition to the pro