I’m not Black, but I have always had the sense that Black people were more into life than us whiteys. Their churches and their ceremonies, I sense, aren’t pro-forma rituals, they are a part of every day life, and death.
So, we find out that Martin Luther King wanted this at his funeral:
I’d like somebody to mention that day, that Martin Luther King, Jr., tried to give his life serving others. I’d like for somebody to say that day, that Martin Luther King, Jr., tried to love somebody. I want you to say that day, that I tried to be right on the war question. I want you to be able to say that day, that I did try, in my life, to clothe those who were naked. I want you to say, on that day, that I did try, in my life, to visit those who were in prison. I want you to say that I tried to love and serve humanity.
The truth hurts when you’ve had your head up your ass for the past 6 years and your hearing what real Americans think of your mess for a change. It’s called dissent King George, its what built America. I know in your world everyone is lock-step, no questions, no opinions, no debate. Your America sucks.
THE COUNTRY YOU RIGHTWINGERS SLITHER IN is right up the rearend of a Cancerous Elephant. You b..t..ds want to mess with people we are gonna mess with you so bad you’ll wish the cancer would spread to your robotic brains. Personally I would like to round a whole bunch of you up and ship you off to the Mountains of Afghanistan where if you were lucky you might survive for fifteen minutes.
How could it not have turned political? Bush 43 is the antithesis of everything that Dr. and Coretta Scott King believed in. He was a fool to inject himself into the ceremony. If he had an ounce of brains, he would have sent Powell or Condi as a surrogate.
He should have used the excuse of national security (the one he uses for everything else) and stayed away. Neither one of the Kings ever turned away from speaking the truth too bad Bush can’t understand that concept.
The Meomorilization of an Iconic Figure
deserves the attention to which their lives were cast upon. A great civil rights leader deserves a great civil rights memorialization. Anything less denotes that their work was for not.
And in the services, if when we reflect upon their life and trials, tribulations and achievements, that when we weigh their legacy to what we have today causes an undo hardship to some, it is only because the reflections cast upon those that scorn their own personage as wrong, immoral, illicit, is such.
So let them cast dispersions upon the critics, their masses, their voters. For it will be their undoing as their fire and brimstone burns those that which they need the most.
Ahh the anti-spin spin
Bush used it not the ‘Left’ wing
the media is ‘right’ wing FAUX news +++
So who are they trying to blame this time?
Weekly Standard? Thats Neo-COC Krystal media?
The Bloggers?
I didnt see anyone here use that against Bush.
Bush used Corettas name in the SOTU.
Anyone ever have a kid in their neighborhood who was abusive to others and as soon as someone had enough, they socked him and he ran crying and sobbing to his mom as if he was an angel trying to get others in trouble? Surely he grew up to be an ultra conservative. Is this not the pattern of most rightw trolls on the blogs?
The Bush bunch being who they are,self centered wing nuts could not handle the fact every one there to honor Coretta Scott King and Martin L. King recieved more applause than they did. Not only that every one else spoke with more truth and eloquance. Political and poignant truth made dictator Bush unconfortable. His seating was perfect, the world could see him chewing on his teeth as Carter and the Clintons spoke of war and neglect. I watched it off and on for several hours and was reminded of all our years of struggle and how not enough has been done and how Katrina has put us back in years……Blessings
Of course the Chickenwingers hated that “awful spectacle” today. They always hate it when Bill Clinton is on the same stage with the Boy-King. BC never needed to wire tap his enemies….they spent 8 years investigating him over non-issues and he kicked their collective asses. The contrast can’t be more painful for them. Once again, the proof was in the speeches and the reception that they both got today. Bush may have occupied the office and title for the past 5 years….but it was pretty obvious who the people’s President is.
Only a weak, illegitimate pResident who fears the American people is compelled to wire-tap us.
NEW ORLEANS – Hauling everything he owned in a plastic garbage bag, Darryl Travis walked out of the chandeliered lobby of the Crowne Plaza, joining the exodus of Hurricane Katrina refugees evicted from their hotel rooms across the country Tuesday.
More than 4,500 evacuees were expected to check out of their government-paid hotel rooms Tuesday as the Federal Emergency Management Agency began cutting off money to pay for their stays.
Far more people — a total of more than 20,000 storm victims — were given extensions by FEMA until at least next week and possibly as long as March 1, said FEMA spokesman Butch Kinerney.
So, we can see another large group evicted come next week, then a final large group come March 1st.
Yeah, Bush loves helping the poor and down trodden.
That’s an interesting observation #7 made, should Bush have yelled wolf and used national security (what happened to Ridges colored coded system that changed regularly and at convenient times) as an excuse not to go, and send Condi. First, there was no one like Mrs. King, she IS representative of the American civil rights movement, and second, don’t you think Bush is trying to undo Kanye West’s remark that Bush hates blacks.
I’m sure the cons will get all hot and bothered over this denunciation of Iraq at the Coretta Scott King funeral, but they really need to stop pretending that Dr. King and his wife were apolitical people. They were progressive activists fighting against the closed minds of conservatism.
King was po;itical ,so was his wife . The funeral is properly fitting to be political to right the wrong of this administration . Sorry the camera did not show the ractions of the bushies.
FAIRFAX, Virginia (AP) — A CIA worker was arrested and charged with being a serial burglar responsible for more than a dozen incidents near the spy agency’s headquarters.
Fairfax County police said Tuesday that George C. Dalmas III had been charged with 17 burglaries in McLean, Virginia, between October and last month. Dalmas, 44, of Falls Church, faced numerous counts of burglary and grand larceny, and investigators said other charges were possible.
Just because somebody works for the good guys, doesn’t make them a good guy.
If you wingnuts want to get angry get angry about this;
The last time 1st Lt. William Â?EddieÂ? Rebrook IV saw his body armor, he was lying on a stretcher in Iraq, his arm shattered and covered in blood.
A field medic tied a tourniquet around RebrookÂ?s right arm to stanch the bleeding from shrapnel wounds. Soldiers yanked off his blood-soaked body armor. He never saw it again.
But last week, Rebrook was forced to pay $700 for that body armor, blown up by a roadside bomb more than a year ago.
He was leaving the Army for good because of his injuries. He turned in his gear at his base in Fort Hood, Texas. He was informed there was no record that the body armor had been stripped from him in battle.
He was told to pay nearly $700 or face not being discharged for weeks, perhaps months.
Rebrook, 25, scrounged up the cash from his Army buddies and returned home to Charleston last Friday.
“I last saw the [body armor] when it was pulled off my bleeding body while I was being evacuated in a helicopter,Â? Rebrook said. Â?They took it off me and burned it.”
….Rebrook, who graduated with honors from the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, N.Y., spent more than four years on active duty. He served six months in Iraq.
Did anyone see Kate OBeirne tonight? She was an awful and embarrassing representative of the meanspirited, close-minded Republican party.
Why does she act like an old, angry white guy?
bush should’ve been escorted out a la Cindy Sheehan. “sorry, sir, but you being here is too much of a political statement. you can come back in when you take off your stupid dubya mask”
dubya was later quoted as saying he couldn’t believe it,
“i just can’t believe larry king has died, and why they buried him in a dress…”
an aide: “mr president…”
Joe Lieberman was just on Imus, and, channeling RNC and Kate O’Beirne talking points, said that “some things were said that aren’t normally said at a funeral”. Then he laughed when scumsucker Imus described former President Carter as a bitter little man.
Unfortunately he isn’t taking online contributions yet, so I wrote him a check.
Remember, when someone like Imus describes Mrs. King as “she comported herself with quiet dignity”, that means shut the fuck up about what she believed. We won’t.
Right-wing angry that King funeral ‘turned political.’
Same boo-hoo-hoo that they did at the Wellstone memorial. They turn up to make political hay, and are surprised that they get booed. They’re always looking for ways to get hurt and act the martyr.
A variation on the theme occured with the Sammy Strip-search confirmation hearings.
I also understand that FEMA kicked all those people out of the hotels even though the trailers that FEMA promised them hadn’t arrived yet. This is a government that cares about its citizens? They haven’t demonstrated that yet. I don’t understand how anyone who cares about the human race can support the Republican Party.
They are a party that promotes the idea that Truth is meaningless; that helping out your fellow human beings should only be done when you’ve taken good care of yourself and yours first; that if you’re not 100% behind the president, especially in a time of war (even one he started on false pretenses), then you’re not a loyal American; and that if you think the extrememly rich people in this country do not pay enough in taxes, then you’re insane.
In short, they stand for many of the things that Dr. and Mrs. King opposed until their dying days. Republicans have no business complaining about how people wanted to honor Mrs. King. If it weren’t for people who felt the way today’s Republicans feel, we may have never heard of Dr. and Mrs. King in the first place.
Right wingers love to dish it out but they act all hurt and offended when they get a little in return. Bush shows up at an event where there isn’t a hand picked audience and he receives a little blowback. Welcome to the world that most of us live in, pinhead. Our daddies weren’t able to get us into a champagne unit of the Air National Guard and bail us out of repeated business failures; nor were they able to get us into Harvard Business School with a shitty GPA. No, the rest of us have to take actual responsibility for our actions and pay our way through life, unlike the spoiled rich-boy life you’ve enjoyed.
speaking of political funerals, have you heard about these right-wingers who are protesting at US soldiers’ funerals because they’re defending a nation that harbors gay? yes, it is fucked up… however, I have a cunning plan:
#46
Hello? Right wingers are angry? As a matter of fact we are not angry. We are always positive and optimistic about the future of this country. It is the left who are angry because they have lost their power and are acting like spoiled little children throwing tantrums until they get it back. You have no idea how stupid you sound do you? What is the theme everyday on TP? Bash Bush. Bash Rove. Bash the Republican party. No, a happy liberal is an oxymoron. Sorry, what happened yesterday at the King funeral just makes you guys look all the more pathetic and shrill. You will lose even more seats in the fall. Guaranteed.
There’s more to the FEMA/hotel story. Those that were receiving FEMA funds to pay for their stays were told that they had until a certain date to recieve an authorization number to continue this funding from FEMA (the thought being that those who did not come to get a number likely had no business getting a free room). FEMA figures that thousands of rooms were being provided for people that did not have a legitimate Katrina/Hurricane link or right. Those that are now being evicted are those that did not get this authorization code/number …
I don’t understand how anyone who cares about the human race can support the Republican Party.They are a party that promotes the idea that Truth is meaningless; that helping out your fellow human beings should only be done when you’ve taken good care of yourself and yours first; that if you’re not 100% behind the president, especially in a time of war (even one he started on false pretenses), then you’re not a loyal American; and that if you think the extrememly rich people in this country do not pay enough in taxes, then you’re insane.
In short, they stand for many of the things that Dr. and Mrs. King opposed until their dying days. Republicans have no business complaining about how people wanted to honor Mrs. King. If it weren’t for people who felt the way today’s Republicans feel, we may have never heard of Dr. and Mrs. King in the first place.
First, Dr. King was a Republican … whether he’d be one today if he had lived is certainly up for debate. Second, your statement is a wild overgeneralization. The Left can claim no monopoly over the “truth” anymore than the Right can. I’m not 100% behind the President, but I am 70 to 75% behind him … none of us will agree 100% with any President’s actions. Reasonable people can agree on the level of taxation … I’m not opposed to the rich paying the lion’s share (which, currently, they (individually) do) and I do believe that corporations should shoulder a larger burden than they do currently. Thirdly, I think we both would agree that Protestants tend to be more conservative and thus, largely, Republican. As a small example of Republican’s caring for fellow man, I would encourage you to visit (personally) the Hurricane ravaged areas in the South and observe who’s doing a large portion of the benevolent work there. Faith based initiatives as far as the eye can see … tons of them … gutting and rebuilding homes … feeding people … clearin debris. Churches … sending people to help in the thousands … it is HERE that you need to look before you say “Republicans don’t care”.
While I agree that MLK and Mrs. King were obviously political people, for someone to use their funeral as opportunity to gain political capital is in poor form. I’m not angry that it was done … perhaps the statements made do actually align with what Mrs King believed. A funeral is a place to celebrate someone’s life … not to grandstand for the audience by insulting another person in attendance (even if you happen to vehemently disagree with that person). I give Bush credit for attending … he knew that it could turn nasty. Personally, I find President Carter’s recent behaviors to be ridiculous and self-aggrandizing … I know he’s a Christian and I know he means well … but, there are some unwritten rules when one’s a President and not bashing the current President happens to be one of them. Reagan didn’t bash Carter … Clinton didn’t bash Bush I … and Bush II hasn’t bashed Clinton …
Yeah, sure Randy. Us lefties are the happy ones starting wars based on lies. Or making soldiers pay for body armor. Or taking away veterans’ benefits. Or stealing from the U.S. treasury to give to our defense contractor buddies. Or ignoring PDBs telling that “bin Laden is determined to strike in the U.S.”…
Only reason we may not be “happy” all the time is because you sleazy, lying, corrupt murdering b@st@rds are trying your d@mndest to run the country into the ground as fast as possible.
I respect your cordially worded opinions, and if I over-generalized and included anyone in my diatribe who did not belong there, then I was in error and for that I apologize.
You are right in that the “Left” can claim no monopoly on truth, though I believe that the non-politicians care more about it than the “Right” (I have a general distrust of all politicians, but that’s the libertarian in me, and I think you, too.) I, however, try as much as possible to differentiate between what I accuse “conservatives” (who can be from any party) of and what I accuse “Republicans” (who used to include liberals among their ranks) of, and my diatribe was about the Republican Party, not necessarily the “Right” (whom I think of as conservatives).
You are also correct in that none fo us is going to agree 100% with any president. I am not at all happy about certain things that President Clinton did, though I was generally in support of what he wanted to do versus what his politcal adversaries wanted. I find almost nothing in President bush;s agenda that merits support, especially all the stuff that favors businesses over people.
I’m glad that you agree that the rich (in my opinion, especially the rich who inherit their money or gain it through investments) should pay the lion’s share of taxes, but that is because they can live quite comfortably on what they have left after taxes. I believe that making the tax cuts for the extremely wealthy permanent is poor fiscal policy and I feel it’s comtemptuous of the less fortunate. Why? Because in order to make it possible to give these greedy people more money, programs that benefit the less well off in this country are going to be cut. The wealthiest Americans who got these tax cuts probably got more money back just from that than many people in this country earn in a whole year. Now why would that be necessary? It is a myth that giving the super-rich more money will ultimately result in it “trickling down” to everyone else and benefitting them. It’s just an excuse to get them out of paying what they should in taxes.
Being atheist myself, I can’t speak to how liberal or conservative any particular religious group is. But I don’t accept that it is only religious conservatives who are helping the people in the Gulf Coast area. (I live in New York and don’t travel. I was stationed at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS, a couple of times, and I was saddened to learn of the devastation there. I remember the people of the region as being good, hard-working, very friendly people.) There are lots of religious liberals helping out, too.
But I have to wonder if Republicans such as yourself believe in what the leaders of your larty are doing? Do YOU think that large coprporations should pay less in taxes than you do? (Some do.) Do YOU think the super wealthy should get an additional tax refund that’s more than what you make in a year? (Some do.) Do YOU think the president should have the legal authority to do whatever he wants, time of war or not? (Some do.) Perhaps you should take a good hard look at what your party has become and ask yourself if it represents your interests any longer. Because I’m sure that what the current leaders of your party have done would not be considered to be in the best interests of the average American.
I’ll have more about the rest of your post later. This is getting too long as it is. But again, I respect your politeness, and that is one reason why I am always willing to discuss things with you in particular. (I’m sorry the “quiz” thing fizzed out a few months back. No internet at home, and things got hairy at work, and then hundreds of threads came up in between. But I’ll get to learn more about you through further exchanges like this.)
Bushie showing up at the funeral of Coretta just once again proves his arrogance, idiocy and incompetence. Rove assured him that he would be the star.
I saw him smirking when people were downing him. King George, you are an alcoholic idiot. You thought you could go into that funeral and reign supreme, make some political points, but instead you got your sock knocked off.
Randy, ever listen to Rush or O’Reilly? They are very angry people and those that listen to them are also angry, or will be after a few of those shows.
Listen to NPR and see the difference. Progressives believe giving to others that are in need is a way to self enlightenment and ultimate happiness. Republicans seem extremely worried about what might be taken from them.
#59
As a matter of fact, I do listen to Rush almost everyday and have for the last year and a half. I also tune into Jerry Springer, Al Franken, Randi Rhodes and Ed Schultz. I don’t listen to NPR and do not believe that any of my tax dollars should be going to fund public radio or public television. In comparing the right and left, you obviously never listen to the right. We are positive. We are taking this country in the right direction. As for the world, we are standing up to dictators and terrorists. That is the reason why many countries do not like Bush. He is a man of principle and has the courage to do the right thing. You will never understand and I feel sorry for you. Have a great day!
The nazis all said the same thing… pretty blonde girls with HUGE smiles… we are HAPPY! We are POSITIVE! We are making germany better!!! March behind us because we are leading the way into the next 1000 years!! Look at all those strong boys learning to be men! Those good, strong, brave little hitler youth.
You can not claim to be stomping dictators when you install and maintain them.
Lets hear you critisize the Saudis …come on. They attacked us on 911 …lets hear your greviances against Saudis… that is right ..you are traitors to the USA and have no problems with the Saudis. http://www.nationalreview.com/document/document042602.asp
You cannot claim to be stomping terrorists when you are the ones creating them during the 80s and now in the 2000s in Iraq.
You are totally ignoring what is making these people act the way they do. There is no country called Terrorania where these people come from. They are made into what they are by religious fundamentalists. And you do not want to call out the religious fundamentalists because you have your own religious fundamentalists right here in the USA that would go ape shit if you held up the American way of seperating church and state. You want a Taliban right here in the USA and so will not try to dislodge the Taliban in Saudi Arabia. Instead you want to pretend their “moon worshiping” is the problem so that you can pit your murderous religion against theirs. That is not the problem. Religious fundamentalists are just as bad as KKK and they dont want to admit it. And so the charade goes on. And you want us to buy it… please.
#61 Last time I tuned in to Savage Nation the guy said lefties and the media are going to be sent off to internment camps. Is that positive and happy?
Every Friday Rush has an open-topic hate fest. Call in and talk about what you hate most.
Right wing books become best sellers when the topic is some variation of why Americans are your enemy.
Modern Nazis love Ann Coulter. Her books get glowing reviews. They say, “Every time she uses the word ‘liberal’ replace it with ‘Jew’ and it will make perfect sense.”
What about your classic inbred comments? I thought this would be an excellent opportunity to display your eloquence…and the bold? still? ouch…
Oh, yeah, can you explain “God’s sanctuary?” You seem to be one of the god-less types in here….so I would love to hear your opinion on god….it would be soooo entertaining….please enlighten….
I’m not the least bit angry. Personally, I love it when the fever swamp gets hysterical at a funeral. For example, that Wellstone memorial was a doozy. It sure helped us elect Norm Coleman in Minnesota, and I think it probably affected swing voters in some other states, too. So bring it on, lefties. The cameras are rolling.
The good religious people have been taken advantage of, as religion is now being used as a weapon. The people in charge are less interested in the real tenants of religion than the followers are. It’s a big sham. It’s easy to talk the talk, but a different story to walk the walk.
Right wing “positive”, means burying head in sand, total denial, rose colored glasses. When the poop hits the fan, these same “positive” people will be jumping off bridges, and buildings.
If anyone thinks that the Wellstone Memorial was nothing but a non-stop political diatribe, then that person should take the time to learn the truth. They would find that Rush Limbaugh’s characterizations of it were no where near reality. It was his and others’ lies that made people who never watched it think it was something it wasn’t.
Oh, yeah, can you explain “God’s sanctuary?†You seem to be one of the god-less types in here….so I would love to hear your opinion on god….it would be soooo entertaining….please enlighten….
Comment by mike #69
Miscreant?
Is that you?
Didn’t recognize you with the new moniker…
my relationship with God is my own personal business, not for PDA…
…But if it helps I do believe in demons and Satan (inbred Bushites like yourself and your gods Bushiva and L’il Dick fit the bill perfectly)…
miscreant?…no, just mike (mike that hates the bold)…I am glad that you have a subject that you wont talk about (in this public forum) and make a fool of yourelf while doing so…..good job…..knowing when to keep your mouth shut….you are moving in the RIGHT direction after all…..
“inbred Bushites like yourself”…i thought we discussed that I probably live in a much more diverse and liberal community than you? I love the Inbred comments–but lets keep them to others in this forum that might actually warrant it…..
By the way….regarding your relationship with god—I would doubt any god loving/faring individual would use such a harsh tone when trying to discuss ones opinion in a public forum….its that why you go by “big papa” instead of your real first name? afraid others with see you here? spitting venom and vile words of insult…instead of conversating???
I would doubt any god loving/faring individual would use such a harsh tone when trying to discuss ones opinion in a public forum…
Comment by mike #46
Miscreant Inbred,
…this is a political forum…
…if you desire religious guidance might I suggest you eschew worshipping at the altar of blood and corruption at the Church of Bushiva, L’il Dick, and Latter Day Ain’ts…
I do not believe that Giacomo is the tyoe to deliberately lie the way some do. If he said that, then I’m sure he can provide you with some evidence, especially if he didn’t sound like he was unsure. He’s not one of the ones who come here just to spew lies and disrupt the place. he seems to enjoy actuial debate. (I do with him, any way.)
If true, then it would be news to me, too, but I had no idea what political party he was in. But I do know this: Back in his day, there were liberals in the Republican Party, and I don’t just mean moderates compared to the radical right. There were defnitely liberals in the party then just as there were (and still are) conservatives in the Democratic Party, especially from the southern states (and CT).
Forty years ago, the Republican Party was more able to call itself “The Party of Lincoln” more so than it can today. In fact, the more thought I give it, it really shouldn’t surprise anyone to learn Dr. King was a Republican. It was the southern conservative democratic politicans that were giving the blacks such a hard time.
While I can’t speak from authority, I would guess that today Dr. King would not be a member of either of the two major parties, but that he would be a Democratic if he was either. But he also might have already founded his own political party by now, too.
I did not know that, if you are still around, please tell me where I can find this out.
Comment by Butterfly #78
Butterfly,
Understand this dynamic…
The Republican Party BEFORE John F. Kennedy was made up of fairly decent people…
The Democrat Party was predominately run by racist southern inbreds (who are the base of today’s treasonous Republiscum Party)…
The racist southern Democrat inbreds bolted the party (and became Goldwater Republiscum) when Democrats Kennedy and Johnson backed the Civil Rights Movement…
Moral of the story: the remnants of those old southern racists are predominately the Republiscum Party of today…
Read wikipedia about MLK Sr. … there’s a sentence or two about it there. I agree that the parties certainly change, but according to BP the pre-Kennedy and apres-Kennedy Republican parties are different creatures … first, Nixon was a Republican then and he wasn’t exactly a super stand up guy and second, many of our current Representatives have been in government siince that time (Byrd, Kennedy) … are they the white racists BP tals about (Heck, Byrd was in the KKK).
The parties do change, yes, but more than that, their political ideas have been molded … the Republicans have gotten more conservative and the Democrats more liberal. It is very true that the Republicans were the anti-slavery party and the civil rights party … not the Democrats. They were the ones standing and blocking the schools. They’ve since become more “enlightened” …
MLK, Jr. was a Republican because the Republicans were more involved in Civil Rights … he did like JFK and endorsed him though … we have no idea what he’d think of either party now.
Wasnt it more of black america “bolting” from the republicans b/c the democrats (at least in public) supported the civil rights movement? Not that the politicians were bolting (at first)???….even though you may wish to hold the democratic party as higher than thou…..its just not true….
So are you actually saying that a sense of decorum and an understanding that there is a proper place and time for politics makes one a “right winger”? That people who think funerals are for remembering the deceased rather than attacking politicians we don’t like makes one a “radical”? Then that would explain why “progressive” candidates keep losing. Why entire time-zones of the country chuckle at your ranting. What’s sad is that you have some good ideas but don’t begin to understand how much you hurt your own cause.
Frist…..should be hung…
February 7th, 2006 at 8:57 pmI’m not Black, but I have always had the sense that Black people were more into life than us whiteys. Their churches and their ceremonies, I sense, aren’t pro-forma rituals, they are a part of every day life, and death.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:02 pmSo, we find out that Martin Luther King wanted this at his funeral:
Sounds like war and poverty to me.
Stupid trolls.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:04 pmThe truth hurts when you’ve had your head up your ass for the past 6 years and your hearing what real Americans think of your mess for a change. It’s called dissent King George, its what built America. I know in your world everyone is lock-step, no questions, no opinions, no debate. Your America sucks.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:12 pmBush didn’t like the entertaiment. Mostly because he was it.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:16 pmTHE COUNTRY YOU RIGHTWINGERS SLITHER IN is right up the rearend of a Cancerous Elephant. You b..t..ds want to mess with people we are gonna mess with you so bad you’ll wish the cancer would spread to your robotic brains. Personally I would like to round a whole bunch of you up and ship you off to the Mountains of Afghanistan where if you were lucky you might survive for fifteen minutes.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:18 pmHow could it not have turned political? Bush 43 is the antithesis of everything that Dr. and Coretta Scott King believed in. He was a fool to inject himself into the ceremony. If he had an ounce of brains, he would have sent Powell or Condi as a surrogate.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:18 pmHe should have used the excuse of national security (the one he uses for everything else) and stayed away. Neither one of the Kings ever turned away from speaking the truth too bad Bush can’t understand that concept.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:21 pmI am baffled that the reichwingers should be shocked (shocked!) when the funeral of a political activist turns political.
Seriously, this is Coretta King we are talking about, not Britney Spears. Sheesh.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:22 pmThe Meomorilization of an Iconic Figure
deserves the attention to which their lives were cast upon. A great civil rights leader deserves a great civil rights memorialization. Anything less denotes that their work was for not.
And in the services, if when we reflect upon their life and trials, tribulations and achievements, that when we weigh their legacy to what we have today causes an undo hardship to some, it is only because the reflections cast upon those that scorn their own personage as wrong, immoral, illicit, is such.
So let them cast dispersions upon the critics, their masses, their voters. For it will be their undoing as their fire and brimstone burns those that which they need the most.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:27 pmsome of you are great writers.. i am looking for contribution.
February 7th, 2006 at 9:44 pmAmericans for Liberty if you want to contribute let me know in the comments.
Ahh the anti-spin spin
Bush used it not the ‘Left’ wing
the media is ‘right’ wing FAUX news +++
So who are they trying to blame this time?
February 7th, 2006 at 9:46 pmWeekly Standard? Thats Neo-COC Krystal media?
The Bloggers?
I didnt see anyone here use that against Bush.
Bush used Corettas name in the SOTU.
Comment by Don Ho King
LOL
February 7th, 2006 at 9:51 pmTake it and run with it.
Run, Mr. ho, run.
Anyone ever have a kid in their neighborhood who was abusive to others and as soon as someone had enough, they socked him and he ran crying and sobbing to his mom as if he was an angel trying to get others in trouble? Surely he grew up to be an ultra conservative. Is this not the pattern of most rightw trolls on the blogs?
February 7th, 2006 at 9:51 pmMay these words echo
upon thy taking kind
taking not giving
material mind
when the light
comes to remind
know that you
misled your kind
on that day
you will find
one more trip
thru the grind
thus you go
time thru time
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February 7th, 2006 at 9:57 pmall one mankind
The Bush bunch being who they are,self centered wing nuts could not handle the fact every one there to honor Coretta Scott King and Martin L. King recieved more applause than they did. Not only that every one else spoke with more truth and eloquance. Political and poignant truth made dictator Bush unconfortable. His seating was perfect, the world could see him chewing on his teeth as Carter and the Clintons spoke of war and neglect. I watched it off and on for several hours and was reminded of all our years of struggle and how not enough has been done and how Katrina has put us back in years……Blessings
February 7th, 2006 at 10:04 pmThe right wing is scared.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:17 pmScared of the truth.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:18 pmThe political commentary at today’s service probably went right over George’s head. I doubt he even noticed.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:20 pmScared of the people learning the truth
February 7th, 2006 at 10:21 pmWhat’s funny is watching the Republicans bashing Lowery. I’m pretty sure Lowery knew this would get the crackers talkin’ a fool.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:21 pmOf course the Chickenwingers hated that “awful spectacle” today. They always hate it when Bill Clinton is on the same stage with the Boy-King. BC never needed to wire tap his enemies….they spent 8 years investigating him over non-issues and he kicked their collective asses. The contrast can’t be more painful for them. Once again, the proof was in the speeches and the reception that they both got today. Bush may have occupied the office and title for the past 5 years….but it was pretty obvious who the people’s President is.
Only a weak, illegitimate pResident who fears the American people is compelled to wire-tap us.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:22 pmMuch worse was done to Rev.Lowery in the 50’s and 60’s. I don’t think this current crop of chicken’hawks could scare Rev. Lowery, Rove included
February 7th, 2006 at 10:24 pmThis is what went on today while Coretta Scott King’s life was celebrated.
Yahoo!
February 7, 2006
Thousands of Katrina Victims Evicted
So, we can see another large group evicted come next week, then a final large group come March 1st.
Yeah, Bush loves helping the poor and down trodden.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:32 pmThat’s an interesting observation #7 made, should Bush have yelled wolf and used national security (what happened to Ridges colored coded system that changed regularly and at convenient times) as an excuse not to go, and send Condi. First, there was no one like Mrs. King, she IS representative of the American civil rights movement, and second, don’t you think Bush is trying to undo Kanye West’s remark that Bush hates blacks.
February 7th, 2006 at 10:44 pmWhile President Bush was eulogizing Coretta Scott King, his administration was supporting the Republican war on minority voting rights in Georgia.
For the full story, see:
February 7th, 2006 at 11:02 pm“Dishonoring Mrs. King.”
Oliver Willis says it best right here:
Amen
February 7th, 2006 at 11:09 pm
King was po;itical ,so was his wife . The funeral is properly fitting to be political to right the wrong of this administration . Sorry the camera did not show the ractions of the bushies.
February 7th, 2006 at 11:22 pmOff Topic, but important:
This is why you can’t just blindly trust government intellegence works to always do the right thing with their surviellence powers.
CNN
February 7, 2006
CIA worker accused of secret life of crime
Just because somebody works for the good guys, doesn’t make them a good guy.
February 7th, 2006 at 11:22 pmThe church fires are of Rovian design, more to come, wait and see.
February 7th, 2006 at 11:51 pmdo we get to go back through transcripts of reagan’s service to make sure that was a neutral affair?
can we countdown the hours until the reverend gets a call from the irs threatening to take away his church’s tax-exempt status?
clearly this is much worse than ministers in ohio telling their flock who to vote for…
February 8th, 2006 at 12:08 amIf you wingnuts want to get angry get angry about this;
The last time 1st Lt. William Â?EddieÂ? Rebrook IV saw his body armor, he was lying on a stretcher in Iraq, his arm shattered and covered in blood.
A field medic tied a tourniquet around RebrookÂ?s right arm to stanch the bleeding from shrapnel wounds. Soldiers yanked off his blood-soaked body armor. He never saw it again.
But last week, Rebrook was forced to pay $700 for that body armor, blown up by a roadside bomb more than a year ago.
He was leaving the Army for good because of his injuries. He turned in his gear at his base in Fort Hood, Texas. He was informed there was no record that the body armor had been stripped from him in battle.
He was told to pay nearly $700 or face not being discharged for weeks, perhaps months.
Rebrook, 25, scrounged up the cash from his Army buddies and returned home to Charleston last Friday.
“I last saw the [body armor] when it was pulled off my bleeding body while I was being evacuated in a helicopter,Â? Rebrook said. Â?They took it off me and burned it.”
….Rebrook, who graduated with honors from the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, N.Y., spent more than four years on active duty. He served six months in Iraq.
Now, Rebrook is sending out résumés, trying to find a job. He plans to return to college to take a couple of pre-med classes and apply to medical school. He wants to be a doctor someday.
“From being an infantryman, I know what it’s like to hurt people,†Rebrook said. “But now I’d like to help people.†?
February 8th, 2006 at 12:47 amPS progressive blogs came up with $5000.00 so don’t worry too much about it. We helped the soldier, no chicken-hawks need apply.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:49 amDid anyone see Kate OBeirne tonight? She was an awful and embarrassing representative of the meanspirited, close-minded Republican party.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:56 amWhy does she act like an old, angry white guy?
#35 Karl Rove in drag?
February 8th, 2006 at 12:58 amI am LOL clif, youmay be right!!
February 8th, 2006 at 1:03 amCalling Bush’s bullshit by it’s correct name is does not make it a “political” issue in the Repugs v/s Democats mold.
Bullshit is what it is and Bullshit was what they called it.
February 8th, 2006 at 1:14 ambush should’ve been escorted out a la Cindy Sheehan. “sorry, sir, but you being here is too much of a political statement. you can come back in when you take off your stupid dubya mask”
dubya was later quoted as saying he couldn’t believe it,
February 8th, 2006 at 1:45 am“i just can’t believe larry king has died, and why they buried him in a dress…”
an aide: “mr president…”
The only thing missing from Kate’s diatribe was referring to the audience as “those uppity Negros.”
Shills like her never have any shame.
February 8th, 2006 at 2:01 amOnly a weak, illegitimate pResident who fears the American people is compelled to wire-tap us.-Innocent Bystander
February 8th, 2006 at 6:54 amAgree~
#41 you very right ,this weak ego driven drunk on power adminstration will do everything for Fear Of The People.
Next will be lockdown time in Amerika ,noone outdoors after 11:00pm and carry your I.D.’s with you at all times..
Time we bagged these goons…..
February 8th, 2006 at 7:04 amJoe Lieberman was just on Imus, and, channeling RNC and Kate O’Beirne talking points, said that “some things were said that aren’t normally said at a funeral”. Then he laughed when scumsucker Imus described former President Carter as a bitter little man.
The LIES of LIEberman sent me straight to the Ned Lamont contribution page: http://www.nedlamont.com/contribute.html
Unfortunately he isn’t taking online contributions yet, so I wrote him a check.
Remember, when someone like Imus describes Mrs. King as “she comported herself with quiet dignity”, that means shut the fuck up about what she believed. We won’t.
February 8th, 2006 at 8:09 amRight-wing angry that King funeral ‘turned political.’
Same boo-hoo-hoo that they did at the Wellstone memorial. They turn up to make political hay, and are surprised that they get booed. They’re always looking for ways to get hurt and act the martyr.
A variation on the theme occured with the Sammy Strip-search confirmation hearings.
February 8th, 2006 at 8:33 am#25 Spudge_Boy,
I also understand that FEMA kicked all those people out of the hotels even though the trailers that FEMA promised them hadn’t arrived yet. This is a government that cares about its citizens? They haven’t demonstrated that yet. I don’t understand how anyone who cares about the human race can support the Republican Party.
They are a party that promotes the idea that Truth is meaningless; that helping out your fellow human beings should only be done when you’ve taken good care of yourself and yours first; that if you’re not 100% behind the president, especially in a time of war (even one he started on false pretenses), then you’re not a loyal American; and that if you think the extrememly rich people in this country do not pay enough in taxes, then you’re insane.
In short, they stand for many of the things that Dr. and Mrs. King opposed until their dying days. Republicans have no business complaining about how people wanted to honor Mrs. King. If it weren’t for people who felt the way today’s Republicans feel, we may have never heard of Dr. and Mrs. King in the first place.
February 8th, 2006 at 8:42 amThe right wing is angry – aren’t they always? Happy republican is an oxymoron.
February 8th, 2006 at 8:44 amRight wingers love to dish it out but they act all hurt and offended when they get a little in return. Bush shows up at an event where there isn’t a hand picked audience and he receives a little blowback. Welcome to the world that most of us live in, pinhead. Our daddies weren’t able to get us into a champagne unit of the Air National Guard and bail us out of repeated business failures; nor were they able to get us into Harvard Business School with a shitty GPA. No, the rest of us have to take actual responsibility for our actions and pay our way through life, unlike the spoiled rich-boy life you’ve enjoyed.
February 8th, 2006 at 9:09 am#47 Nor they able to cover-up our drunk drug addicted life.
February 8th, 2006 at 9:14 amKing was a political figure, dumbasses…
February 8th, 2006 at 9:25 amWhat does one think will happen…
…when the devil enters God’s sanctuary…
…he is rebuked…
February 8th, 2006 at 9:26 amspeaking of political funerals, have you heard about these right-wingers who are protesting at US soldiers’ funerals because they’re defending a nation that harbors gay? yes, it is fucked up… however, I have a cunning plan:
http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/2006/02/god-hates-jerks-guide-to.html
February 8th, 2006 at 9:28 am#46
February 8th, 2006 at 9:36 amHello? Right wingers are angry? As a matter of fact we are not angry. We are always positive and optimistic about the future of this country. It is the left who are angry because they have lost their power and are acting like spoiled little children throwing tantrums until they get it back. You have no idea how stupid you sound do you? What is the theme everyday on TP? Bash Bush. Bash Rove. Bash the Republican party. No, a happy liberal is an oxymoron. Sorry, what happened yesterday at the King funeral just makes you guys look all the more pathetic and shrill. You will lose even more seats in the fall. Guaranteed.
Wayne and Spudge
There’s more to the FEMA/hotel story. Those that were receiving FEMA funds to pay for their stays were told that they had until a certain date to recieve an authorization number to continue this funding from FEMA (the thought being that those who did not come to get a number likely had no business getting a free room). FEMA figures that thousands of rooms were being provided for people that did not have a legitimate Katrina/Hurricane link or right. Those that are now being evicted are those that did not get this authorization code/number …
I don’t understand how anyone who cares about the human race can support the Republican Party.They are a party that promotes the idea that Truth is meaningless; that helping out your fellow human beings should only be done when you’ve taken good care of yourself and yours first; that if you’re not 100% behind the president, especially in a time of war (even one he started on false pretenses), then you’re not a loyal American; and that if you think the extrememly rich people in this country do not pay enough in taxes, then you’re insane.
In short, they stand for many of the things that Dr. and Mrs. King opposed until their dying days. Republicans have no business complaining about how people wanted to honor Mrs. King. If it weren’t for people who felt the way today’s Republicans feel, we may have never heard of Dr. and Mrs. King in the first place.
First, Dr. King was a Republican … whether he’d be one today if he had lived is certainly up for debate. Second, your statement is a wild overgeneralization. The Left can claim no monopoly over the “truth” anymore than the Right can. I’m not 100% behind the President, but I am 70 to 75% behind him … none of us will agree 100% with any President’s actions. Reasonable people can agree on the level of taxation … I’m not opposed to the rich paying the lion’s share (which, currently, they (individually) do) and I do believe that corporations should shoulder a larger burden than they do currently. Thirdly, I think we both would agree that Protestants tend to be more conservative and thus, largely, Republican. As a small example of Republican’s caring for fellow man, I would encourage you to visit (personally) the Hurricane ravaged areas in the South and observe who’s doing a large portion of the benevolent work there. Faith based initiatives as far as the eye can see … tons of them … gutting and rebuilding homes … feeding people … clearin debris. Churches … sending people to help in the thousands … it is HERE that you need to look before you say “Republicans don’t care”.
While I agree that MLK and Mrs. King were obviously political people, for someone to use their funeral as opportunity to gain political capital is in poor form. I’m not angry that it was done … perhaps the statements made do actually align with what Mrs King believed. A funeral is a place to celebrate someone’s life … not to grandstand for the audience by insulting another person in attendance (even if you happen to vehemently disagree with that person). I give Bush credit for attending … he knew that it could turn nasty. Personally, I find President Carter’s recent behaviors to be ridiculous and self-aggrandizing … I know he’s a Christian and I know he means well … but, there are some unwritten rules when one’s a President and not bashing the current President happens to be one of them. Reagan didn’t bash Carter … Clinton didn’t bash Bush I … and Bush II hasn’t bashed Clinton …
February 8th, 2006 at 9:57 am#53… leading a country into WAR not a poker game over at charlies… is a crime against the nation. This guy needs to be ran out of town.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:00 amYeah, sure Randy. Us lefties are the happy ones starting wars based on lies. Or making soldiers pay for body armor. Or taking away veterans’ benefits. Or stealing from the U.S. treasury to give to our defense contractor buddies. Or ignoring PDBs telling that “bin Laden is determined to strike in the U.S.”…
Only reason we may not be “happy” all the time is because you sleazy, lying, corrupt murdering b@st@rds are trying your d@mndest to run the country into the ground as fast as possible.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:01 amGiacomo,
I respect your cordially worded opinions, and if I over-generalized and included anyone in my diatribe who did not belong there, then I was in error and for that I apologize.
You are right in that the “Left” can claim no monopoly on truth, though I believe that the non-politicians care more about it than the “Right” (I have a general distrust of all politicians, but that’s the libertarian in me, and I think you, too.) I, however, try as much as possible to differentiate between what I accuse “conservatives” (who can be from any party) of and what I accuse “Republicans” (who used to include liberals among their ranks) of, and my diatribe was about the Republican Party, not necessarily the “Right” (whom I think of as conservatives).
You are also correct in that none fo us is going to agree 100% with any president. I am not at all happy about certain things that President Clinton did, though I was generally in support of what he wanted to do versus what his politcal adversaries wanted. I find almost nothing in President bush;s agenda that merits support, especially all the stuff that favors businesses over people.
I’m glad that you agree that the rich (in my opinion, especially the rich who inherit their money or gain it through investments) should pay the lion’s share of taxes, but that is because they can live quite comfortably on what they have left after taxes. I believe that making the tax cuts for the extremely wealthy permanent is poor fiscal policy and I feel it’s comtemptuous of the less fortunate. Why? Because in order to make it possible to give these greedy people more money, programs that benefit the less well off in this country are going to be cut. The wealthiest Americans who got these tax cuts probably got more money back just from that than many people in this country earn in a whole year. Now why would that be necessary? It is a myth that giving the super-rich more money will ultimately result in it “trickling down” to everyone else and benefitting them. It’s just an excuse to get them out of paying what they should in taxes.
Being atheist myself, I can’t speak to how liberal or conservative any particular religious group is. But I don’t accept that it is only religious conservatives who are helping the people in the Gulf Coast area. (I live in New York and don’t travel. I was stationed at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS, a couple of times, and I was saddened to learn of the devastation there. I remember the people of the region as being good, hard-working, very friendly people.) There are lots of religious liberals helping out, too.
But I have to wonder if Republicans such as yourself believe in what the leaders of your larty are doing? Do YOU think that large coprporations should pay less in taxes than you do? (Some do.) Do YOU think the super wealthy should get an additional tax refund that’s more than what you make in a year? (Some do.) Do YOU think the president should have the legal authority to do whatever he wants, time of war or not? (Some do.) Perhaps you should take a good hard look at what your party has become and ask yourself if it represents your interests any longer. Because I’m sure that what the current leaders of your party have done would not be considered to be in the best interests of the average American.
I’ll have more about the rest of your post later. This is getting too long as it is. But again, I respect your politeness, and that is one reason why I am always willing to discuss things with you in particular. (I’m sorry the “quiz” thing fizzed out a few months back. No internet at home, and things got hairy at work, and then hundreds of threads came up in between. But I’ll get to learn more about you through further exchanges like this.)
Peace to us all.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:25 amBushie showing up at the funeral of Coretta just once again proves his arrogance, idiocy and incompetence. Rove assured him that he would be the star.
I saw him smirking when people were downing him. King George, you are an alcoholic idiot. You thought you could go into that funeral and reign supreme, make some political points, but instead you got your sock knocked off.
Too bad.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:33 amRandi you couldn’t have made the point of this thread any better than your whiny post @# 52.
Get a grip, go somewhere else for your self flagellation. This isn’t a porn site you should know.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:34 amRandy, ever listen to Rush or O’Reilly? They are very angry people and those that listen to them are also angry, or will be after a few of those shows.
Listen to NPR and see the difference. Progressives believe giving to others that are in need is a way to self enlightenment and ultimate happiness. Republicans seem extremely worried about what might be taken from them.
Republicans=Angry
February 8th, 2006 at 10:42 amkindness, I thought so too.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:44 am#59
February 8th, 2006 at 11:00 amAs a matter of fact, I do listen to Rush almost everyday and have for the last year and a half. I also tune into Jerry Springer, Al Franken, Randi Rhodes and Ed Schultz. I don’t listen to NPR and do not believe that any of my tax dollars should be going to fund public radio or public television. In comparing the right and left, you obviously never listen to the right. We are positive. We are taking this country in the right direction. As for the world, we are standing up to dictators and terrorists. That is the reason why many countries do not like Bush. He is a man of principle and has the courage to do the right thing. You will never understand and I feel sorry for you. Have a great day!
#61
The nazis all said the same thing… pretty blonde girls with HUGE smiles… we are HAPPY! We are POSITIVE! We are making germany better!!! March behind us because we are leading the way into the next 1000 years!! Look at all those strong boys learning to be men! Those good, strong, brave little hitler youth.
February 8th, 2006 at 11:15 am#61, fascists don’t question their leaders either…
February 8th, 2006 at 11:29 am#61
You can not claim to be stomping dictators when you install and maintain them.
Lets hear you critisize the Saudis …come on. They attacked us on 911 …lets hear your greviances against Saudis… that is right ..you are traitors to the USA and have no problems with the Saudis.
http://www.nationalreview.com/document/document042602.asp
You cannot claim to be stomping terrorists when you are the ones creating them during the 80s and now in the 2000s in Iraq.
You are totally ignoring what is making these people act the way they do. There is no country called Terrorania where these people come from. They are made into what they are by religious fundamentalists. And you do not want to call out the religious fundamentalists because you have your own religious fundamentalists right here in the USA that would go ape shit if you held up the American way of seperating church and state. You want a Taliban right here in the USA and so will not try to dislodge the Taliban in Saudi Arabia. Instead you want to pretend their “moon worshiping” is the problem so that you can pit your murderous religion against theirs. That is not the problem. Religious fundamentalists are just as bad as KKK and they dont want to admit it. And so the charade goes on. And you want us to buy it… please.
February 8th, 2006 at 11:31 am#64, Musharraf, Mubarak, Karimov, Burmese Junta, House of Saud….
February 8th, 2006 at 11:35 am#64 – Bush was for the Taleban, before he was against the Taleban…
February 8th, 2006 at 11:36 am#61 Last time I tuned in to Savage Nation the guy said lefties and the media are going to be sent off to internment camps. Is that positive and happy?
Every Friday Rush has an open-topic hate fest. Call in and talk about what you hate most.
Right wing books become best sellers when the topic is some variation of why Americans are your enemy.
Modern Nazis love Ann Coulter. Her books get glowing reviews. They say, “Every time she uses the word ‘liberal’ replace it with ‘Jew’ and it will make perfect sense.”
February 8th, 2006 at 11:38 am#64 Don’t forget in the 1980s, Amnesty International was harshly criticized by Donald Rumsfeld because they opposed Saddam.
February 8th, 2006 at 11:39 amBig papa…
What about your classic inbred comments? I thought this would be an excellent opportunity to display your eloquence…and the bold? still? ouch…
Oh, yeah, can you explain “God’s sanctuary?” You seem to be one of the god-less types in here….so I would love to hear your opinion on god….it would be soooo entertaining….please enlighten….
February 8th, 2006 at 11:59 amI’m not the least bit angry. Personally, I love it when the fever swamp gets hysterical at a funeral. For example, that Wellstone memorial was a doozy. It sure helped us elect Norm Coleman in Minnesota, and I think it probably affected swing voters in some other states, too. So bring it on, lefties. The cameras are rolling.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:21 pmThe good religious people have been taken advantage of, as religion is now being used as a weapon. The people in charge are less interested in the real tenants of religion than the followers are. It’s a big sham. It’s easy to talk the talk, but a different story to walk the walk.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:36 pmRight wing “positive”, means burying head in sand, total denial, rose colored glasses. When the poop hits the fan, these same “positive” people will be jumping off bridges, and buildings.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:40 pmIf anyone thinks that the Wellstone Memorial was nothing but a non-stop political diatribe, then that person should take the time to learn the truth. They would find that Rush Limbaugh’s characterizations of it were no where near reality. It was his and others’ lies that made people who never watched it think it was something it wasn’t.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:45 pmOh, yeah, can you explain “God’s sanctuary?†You seem to be one of the god-less types in here….so I would love to hear your opinion on god….it would be soooo entertaining….please enlighten….
Comment by mike #69
Miscreant?
Is that you?
Didn’t recognize you with the new moniker…
my relationship with God is my own personal business, not for PDA…
…But if it helps I do believe in demons and Satan (inbred Bushites like yourself and your gods Bushiva and L’il Dick fit the bill perfectly)…
February 8th, 2006 at 12:49 pmIn comparing the right and left, you obviously never listen to the right. We are positive. We are taking this country in the right direction.
Comment by Randy #61
Gee whiz Rancid,
When you guys say “go to hell”…
I didn’t think you meant it!
February 8th, 2006 at 1:18 pmBig papa….
miscreant?…no, just mike (mike that hates the bold)…I am glad that you have a subject that you wont talk about (in this public forum) and make a fool of yourelf while doing so…..good job…..knowing when to keep your mouth shut….you are moving in the RIGHT direction after all…..
“inbred Bushites like yourself”…i thought we discussed that I probably live in a much more diverse and liberal community than you? I love the Inbred comments–but lets keep them to others in this forum that might actually warrant it…..
By the way….regarding your relationship with god—I would doubt any god loving/faring individual would use such a harsh tone when trying to discuss ones opinion in a public forum….its that why you go by “big papa” instead of your real first name? afraid others with see you here? spitting venom and vile words of insult…instead of conversating???
February 8th, 2006 at 2:09 pmI would doubt any god loving/faring individual would use such a harsh tone when trying to discuss ones opinion in a public forum…
Comment by mike #46
Miscreant Inbred,
…this is a political forum…
…if you desire religious guidance might I suggest you eschew worshipping at the altar of blood and corruption at the Church of Bushiva, L’il Dick, and Latter Day Ain’ts…
February 8th, 2006 at 3:32 pmGIACOMO
“First, Dr. King was a Republican”
I did not know that, if you are still around, please tell me where I can find this out.
February 8th, 2006 at 3:53 pm#78 Butterfly,
I do not believe that Giacomo is the tyoe to deliberately lie the way some do. If he said that, then I’m sure he can provide you with some evidence, especially if he didn’t sound like he was unsure. He’s not one of the ones who come here just to spew lies and disrupt the place. he seems to enjoy actuial debate. (I do with him, any way.)
If true, then it would be news to me, too, but I had no idea what political party he was in. But I do know this: Back in his day, there were liberals in the Republican Party, and I don’t just mean moderates compared to the radical right. There were defnitely liberals in the party then just as there were (and still are) conservatives in the Democratic Party, especially from the southern states (and CT).
Forty years ago, the Republican Party was more able to call itself “The Party of Lincoln” more so than it can today. In fact, the more thought I give it, it really shouldn’t surprise anyone to learn Dr. King was a Republican. It was the southern conservative democratic politicans that were giving the blacks such a hard time.
While I can’t speak from authority, I would guess that today Dr. King would not be a member of either of the two major parties, but that he would be a Democratic if he was either. But he also might have already founded his own political party by now, too.
February 8th, 2006 at 4:06 pmThanks Wayne A. Schneider
I never heard that either and just want some clarification
February 8th, 2006 at 5:24 pm“First, Dr. King was a Republicanâ€
I did not know that, if you are still around, please tell me where I can find this out.
Comment by Butterfly #78
Butterfly,
Understand this dynamic…
The Republican Party BEFORE John F. Kennedy was made up of fairly decent people…
The Democrat Party was predominately run by racist southern inbreds (who are the base of today’s treasonous Republiscum Party)…
The racist southern Democrat inbreds bolted the party (and became Goldwater Republiscum) when Democrats Kennedy and Johnson backed the Civil Rights Movement…
Moral of the story: the remnants of those old southern racists are predominately the Republiscum Party of today…
February 8th, 2006 at 8:38 pmGood call big papa, I understand how the parties change, but I just want solid evidence that MLK was a Republican.
February 9th, 2006 at 1:24 amRead wikipedia about MLK Sr. … there’s a sentence or two about it there. I agree that the parties certainly change, but according to BP the pre-Kennedy and apres-Kennedy Republican parties are different creatures … first, Nixon was a Republican then and he wasn’t exactly a super stand up guy and second, many of our current Representatives have been in government siince that time (Byrd, Kennedy) … are they the white racists BP tals about (Heck, Byrd was in the KKK).
The parties do change, yes, but more than that, their political ideas have been molded … the Republicans have gotten more conservative and the Democrats more liberal. It is very true that the Republicans were the anti-slavery party and the civil rights party … not the Democrats. They were the ones standing and blocking the schools. They’ve since become more “enlightened” …
MLK, Jr. was a Republican because the Republicans were more involved in Civil Rights … he did like JFK and endorsed him though … we have no idea what he’d think of either party now.
February 9th, 2006 at 7:06 amBig Poopoo,
comment #81….
Wasnt it more of black america “bolting” from the republicans b/c the democrats (at least in public) supported the civil rights movement? Not that the politicians were bolting (at first)???….even though you may wish to hold the democratic party as higher than thou…..its just not true….
oh yeah, god bless and god bless america!!!
February 9th, 2006 at 11:56 amSo are you actually saying that a sense of decorum and an understanding that there is a proper place and time for politics makes one a “right winger”? That people who think funerals are for remembering the deceased rather than attacking politicians we don’t like makes one a “radical”? Then that would explain why “progressive” candidates keep losing. Why entire time-zones of the country chuckle at your ranting. What’s sad is that you have some good ideas but don’t begin to understand how much you hurt your own cause.
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