Comments on: McCain Was For Reform Before He Was Against It http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:13:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: appletree » Blog Archive » John McCain Supports Corruption http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-5/#comment-469224 appletree » Blog Archive » John McCain Supports Corruption Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:09:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-469224 [...] Think Progress has the good on John McCain (R-AZ). McCain just can’t figure out why the Democrats are now pushing for public financing of campaigns. [...] [...] Think Progress has the good on John McCain (R-AZ). McCain just can’t figure out why the Democrats are now pushing for public financing of campaigns. [...]

]]> By: The Angry Buddhist http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-5/#comment-447161 The Angry Buddhist Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:00:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-447161 For a "hero" John McCain sure is a coward. He's talked and talked and talked about campaign reform as if what he's done has ever made a difference. I judge people by results and McCain comes up short all the way around. I lost respect for him as a stand up guy when he let Karl Rove punk him with impunity and then come back to hug Bush. What a yellow bellied sell out he is. But then again, he IS a Republican and every one of them I've met have been cowards. For a “hero” John McCain sure is a coward.

He’s talked and talked and talked about campaign reform as if what he’s done has ever made a difference.

I judge people by results and McCain comes up short all the way around.

I lost respect for him as a stand up guy when he let Karl Rove punk him with impunity and then come back to hug Bush.

What a yellow bellied sell out he is. But then again, he IS a Republican and every one of them I’ve met have been cowards.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-5/#comment-446021 big papa Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:48:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-446021 Comment by mighty aphrodite #203 <strong>Puny Hermaphrodite, In the words of Bill Murray to Jane Curtin (Saturday Night Live) Puny, you ignorant slut... ...see post above... ...and at least Democrats don't want to bankrupt the social safety net... ...like your greedy, corrupt gods Bushiva and L'il Dick et al...</strong> Comment by mighty aphrodite #203

Puny Hermaphrodite,

In the words of Bill Murray to Jane Curtin (Saturday Night Live)

Puny, you ignorant slut…

…see post above…

…and at least Democrats don’t want to bankrupt the social safety net…

…like your greedy, corrupt gods Bushiva and L’il Dick et al…

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-446016 big papa Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:45:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-446016 GM is in a bad situation because the UAW is nutty and has even nuttier demands. Get rid of them, lower the cost of production per vehicle, lay off shitty workers, and we can start having a healthy domestic auto industry again. Comment by Chase #87 I’ll admit I dont know much about labor law, but from my understanding, GM’s contract with the UAW runs out at the end of 07. What prevents GM from saying, “When this contract runs out, we arent renewing it. we are hiring non union from now on.” Anyone know? Comment by Chase #152 <strong>Chasingyourowna*s, You stupid al Cracker Bushite traitor, ...inbreds like you delude yourselves into believing it's the unions who are causing big business' contrived "ills"... ...even when you are witnessing their RECORD PROFITS, CEO salaries, and lay offs... ...when in fact it's the corrupt HMOs and middle men in the criminal "insurance" industry, greedy corrupt CEOs and board members, and the corporate owned government that are destroying American business... ...(can you say outsourcing, inflated healthcare,malpractice,and liability insurance costs?)... ...if you dumba*s poor/middle working class inbred Bushites would stop believing the hype put out by the very people who are enslaving you... ...vote your economic interests... ...support those who want to ensure that ALL people have access to healthcare without the price gouging middlemen, a fair minimum wage, and to stop selling American workers out to foreign competition- in order to lower the standard of living of American workers and increase the bottom lines of criminal corporate special interests.. American business and unions could be competitive and coexist successfully... ...the millionaire executive criminals with their multimillion dollar salaries are the people you're siding with... ...do you believe that the CEO of any company is worth hundreds of millions in stock and salary, especially when that company is losing money and has to lay off tens of thousands? If you do, you're a sick, twisted sombich!</strong> GM is in a bad situation because the UAW is nutty and has even nuttier demands. Get rid of them, lower the cost of production per vehicle, lay off shitty workers, and we can start having a healthy domestic auto industry again.

Comment by Chase #87

I’ll admit I dont know much about labor law, but from my understanding, GM’s contract with the UAW runs out at the end of 07. What prevents GM from saying, “When this contract runs out, we arent renewing it. we are hiring non union from now on.” Anyone know?

Comment by Chase #152

Chasingyourowna*s,

You stupid al Cracker Bushite traitor,

…inbreds like you delude yourselves into believing it’s the unions who are causing big business’ contrived “ills”…

…even when you are witnessing their RECORD PROFITS, CEO salaries, and lay offs…

…when in fact it’s the corrupt HMOs and middle men in the criminal “insurance” industry, greedy corrupt CEOs and board members, and the corporate owned government that are destroying American business…

…(can you say outsourcing, inflated healthcare,malpractice,and liability insurance costs?)…

…if you dumba*s poor/middle working class inbred Bushites would stop believing the hype put out by the very people who are enslaving you…

…vote your economic interests…

…support those who want to ensure that ALL people have access to healthcare without the price gouging middlemen, a fair minimum wage, and to stop selling American workers out to foreign competition- in order to lower the standard of living of American workers and increase the bottom lines of criminal corporate special interests..

American business and unions could be competitive and coexist successfully…

…the millionaire executive criminals with their multimillion dollar salaries are the people you’re siding with…

…do you believe that the CEO of any company is worth hundreds of millions in stock and salary, especially when that company is losing money and has to lay off tens of thousands?

If you do, you’re a sick, twisted sombich!

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445720 WaltTheMan Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:24:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445720 When I was five, I knew the color codes (Bad boys ... but Violet gave willingly) used in electronics and could solder circuits together. By age six, I repaired TV's. The joy of watching electrons dancing in a beam pentode are gone except for the enthusiasts. But now, I have a Pentium 4 based computer with 1 Gigabyte of ECC memory and 160GB hard drives(2) plus CDROM and DVD RW drives. This brings me to my point - why can I boot my machine and enter the net in about ten seconds? The machine is five years old. isn't there some basal line for knowledge or ignorance? When I was five, I knew the color codes (Bad boys … but Violet gave willingly) used in electronics and could solder circuits together. By age six, I repaired TV’s. The joy of watching electrons dancing in a beam pentode are gone except for the enthusiasts.
But now, I have a Pentium 4 based computer with 1 Gigabyte of ECC memory and 160GB hard drives(2) plus CDROM and DVD RW drives.
This brings me to my point – why can I boot my machine and enter the net in about ten seconds? The machine is five years old. isn’t there some basal line for knowledge or ignorance?

]]> By: mighty aphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445527 mighty aphrodite Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:28:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445527 #199 - "And the folks who depend on the SS income, are the ones being taxed twice. Talk about unfair!!! Snort!!" -Cyra Brown ******And the administration that brought us taxes on Social Security benefits......waaaassssss......???? (Hint: Who cast the proudly proclaimed "tie-breaking vote"??? Al Gore??) Please, progressives, rid yourselves of the delusion that Dems give a $h*t about poor people - they NEED to keep a large segment of their loyal base poor - Dems remind the poor how much they need the "party" to combat the evil, wealthy people. Where would Jesse Jackson and Rev. Lowery be without a sizeable population of uneducated constituents??? Unemployed...... #199 – “And the folks who depend on the SS income, are the ones being taxed twice. Talk about unfair!!! Snort!!”
-Cyra Brown
******And the administration that brought us taxes on Social Security benefits……waaaassssss……???? (Hint: Who cast the proudly proclaimed “tie-breaking vote”??? Al Gore??) Please, progressives, rid yourselves of the delusion that Dems give a $h*t about poor people – they NEED to keep a large segment of their loyal base poor – Dems remind the poor how much they need the “party” to combat the evil, wealthy people. Where would Jesse Jackson and Rev. Lowery be without a sizeable population of uneducated constituents??? Unemployed……

]]> By: Smedley http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445426 Smedley Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:43:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445426 <strong>Uk has 151 MPs signatures to impeach Blair.</strong> we need 200 since january weve had another 42 MP signatures ....MP's will suddenly jump , as MPs will do this to get him nailed at the post http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=29437&SESSION=875 http://www.impeachblair.org/ and click Early Day Motions <strong>we will have this in the BAG by the time bush starts war By March</strong> Blair is the loose link in the chain Uk has 151 MPs signatures to impeach Blair. we need 200 since january weve had another 42 MP signatures ….MP’s will suddenly jump , as MPs will do this to get him nailed at the post http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=29437&SESSION=875

http://www.impeachblair.org/ and click Early Day Motions

we will have this in the BAG by the time bush starts war By March Blair is the loose link in the chain

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445282 WaltTheMan Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:23:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445282 Spudge, RP - MA, Chaise and Gary all have one thing in common - they each or all (collectively) have an IQ below 91. Why? They all admire W as their intellectual superior and that's what his is. Spudge, RP -
MA, Chaise and Gary all have one thing in common – they each or all (collectively) have an IQ below 91. Why? They all admire W as their intellectual superior and that’s what his is.

]]> By: dano347 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445261 dano347 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:55:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445261 <em>SSI is tanking; insolvent in 2032 (isnt that the latest estimate?) Both parties agree changes need to be made. <strong>ok Dano: tax it all. Shit, fine with me.</strong> </em> Comment by Chase — February 10, 2006 @ 4:17 Ok, what have you done with the real Chase? I think some liberal's pulling my leg! Actually, I believe the latest estimate is that in 2032 more will be going out than coming in - but that still will mean a return of about 65 cents on the dollar. Not great, but hardly bankrupt. SSI is tanking; insolvent in 2032 (isnt that the latest estimate?) Both parties agree changes need to be made.

ok Dano: tax it all. Shit, fine with me.

Comment by Chase — February 10, 2006 @ 4:17

Ok, what have you done with the real Chase? I think some liberal’s pulling my leg!

Actually, I believe the latest estimate is that in 2032 more will be going out than coming in – but that still will mean a return of about 65 cents on the dollar. Not great, but hardly bankrupt.

]]> By: Cyra Brown http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445251 Cyra Brown Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:11:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445251 CCCCCHHHHAAAASSSEEE!!! So you feel that people should not be taxed on the same money twice?!? Do you really think that SS payments are not subject to being taxed? And with no Capital Gains taxes, or Estate taxes to pay, the wealthy folks get to keep it all!! And the folks who depend on the SS income, are the ones being taxed twice. Talk about unfair!!! Snort!! CCCCCHHHHAAAASSSEEE!!! So you feel that people should not be taxed on the same money twice?!? Do you really think that SS payments are not subject to being taxed? And with no Capital Gains taxes, or Estate taxes to pay, the wealthy folks get to keep it all!! And the folks who depend on the SS income, are the ones being taxed twice. Talk about unfair!!! Snort!!

]]> By: Cyra Brown http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445243 Cyra Brown Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:55:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445243 #93- I do not know about all of the States' tax structures, but in Washington State, "Service" people, such as Waitstaff, Bartenders, Stylists, and Barbers are required to declare their "gratuities", as a part of their income. Some business owners even base their wage scales on an assumption of a certain percentage of the employee's "tip earnings". So, the Boss thinks the average server earns an average of, let's say, $5.00 an hour. So, they pay based on the st. min. wage, (now at $7.38 hr.) so their cost per employee is only $2.38 an hour. But should the server not make the average, tipping is optional, after all, the employer does not make up the difference. So the server is serving for free. Skim?? Nah. Just trying to break even, mostly. #93- I do not know about all of the States’ tax structures, but in Washington State, “Service” people, such as Waitstaff, Bartenders, Stylists, and Barbers are required to declare their “gratuities”, as a part of their income. Some business owners even base their wage scales on an assumption of a certain percentage of the employee’s “tip earnings”. So, the Boss thinks the average server earns an average of, let’s say, $5.00 an hour. So, they pay based on the st. min. wage, (now at $7.38 hr.) so their cost per employee is only $2.38 an hour. But should the server not make the average, tipping is optional, after all, the employer does not make up the difference. So the server is serving for free. Skim?? Nah. Just trying to break even, mostly.

]]> By: Spudge_Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445239 Spudge_Boy Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:42:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445239 <blockquote>John should have thrown the cake into George’s face!</blockquote> McCain wouldn't do that. This is previous to Bush fvcking him on the torture bill.

John should have thrown the cake into George’s face!

McCain wouldn’t do that. This is previous to Bush fvcking him on the torture bill.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445235 Jay Randal Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:34:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445235 Senator McCain is becoming a real loser, because only nuts kiss up to Bush daily > lol. The pic of Bush and McCain posing with a birthday cake together is weird! John should have thrown the cake into George's face! Senator McCain is becoming a real loser, because only nuts kiss up to Bush daily > lol. The pic of Bush and McCain posing with a birthday cake together is weird! John should have thrown the cake into George’s face!

]]> By: Cyra Brown http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445234 Cyra Brown Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:31:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445234 #68- you have that backwards. A "service" is something you "perform", a "product" is something you "produce". Okay? #68- you have that backwards. A “service” is something you “perform”, a “product” is something you “produce”. Okay?

]]> By: Spudge_Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445179 Spudge_Boy Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:39:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445179 WaltTheMan, Isn't it funny how they post at specific times? WaltTheMan,

Isn’t it funny how they post at specific times?

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445177 WaltTheMan Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:12:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445177 Scheet. MA, Chaise and Gary have all punched their time cards. I guess its time to saw some logs. Scheet. MA, Chaise and Gary have all punched their time cards. I guess its time to saw some logs.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445148 WaltTheMan Sat, 11 Feb 2006 02:01:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445148 MA, Soft-shelled turtles can do away with a sea snake in seconds. Sharks can too, but succumb (are unsuccessful)about 40% of the time. MA,
Soft-shelled turtles can do away with a sea snake in seconds. Sharks can too, but succumb (are unsuccessful)about 40% of the time.

]]> By: mighty aphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445142 mighty aphrodite Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:49:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445142 #175 - Terry- quit being so whiny! I thought you might have a tougher shell - obviously you're a soft shelled turtle. Has anyone (translation: a conservative) noticed that RumPunch sounds like the old, semi-lucid RyANNe on a good med day. See posts #177 and 180. I'm almost ready for him to tell us all how independently wealthy he is - and how generous,well-read, kind, humourous, well-traveled, urbane, handsome, and sophisticated he is - all the things RyANNe used to tell us about himself. His new personna is a little too bizarre. #175 – Terry- quit being so whiny! I thought you might have a tougher shell – obviously you’re a soft shelled turtle.

Has anyone (translation: a conservative) noticed that RumPunch sounds like the old, semi-lucid RyANNe on a good med day. See posts #177 and 180. I’m almost ready for him to tell us all how independently wealthy he is – and how generous,well-read, kind, humourous, well-traveled, urbane, handsome, and sophisticated he is – all the things RyANNe used to tell us about himself. His new personna is a little too bizarre.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445131 WaltTheMan Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:17:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445131 #184 - Crazy Anarcho-Syndicalist, Mutualism ignores one factor, the quality of labor. If one individual can produce 10 perfect widgets per hour and another can produce ten widgets per hour, of which, only one of which works, then why reward each equally? I still advocate a more equal distribution of reward, but there are extremes. #184 – Crazy Anarcho-Syndicalist,
Mutualism ignores one factor, the quality of labor. If one individual can produce 10 perfect widgets per hour and another can produce ten widgets per hour, of which, only one of which works, then why reward each equally?
I still advocate a more equal distribution of reward, but there are extremes.

]]> By: Crazy Anarcho-Syndicalist http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/comment-page-4/#comment-445125 Crazy Anarcho-Syndicalist Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:07:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/10/mcain-flip-flop/#comment-445125 I say, fuck taxes, the state, and capitalism why not try <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory)" rel="nofollow"> Mutualism</a>, which is an economic theory based on the quantity of labor, which has a better probability of creating equality. I say, fuck taxes, the state, and capitalism why not try
Mutualism, which is an economic theory based on the quantity of labor, which has a better probability of creating equality.

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