Ex-Bush Advisor: Lowery to Blame for ‘Overshadowing King Celebration’
Ex-Bush Advisor: Lowery to Blame for ‘Overshadowing King Celebration’
Ron Christie, former advisor to President Bush, rolled out a new line of attack on Rev. Joseph Lowery today. Instead of claiming Lowery’s remarks last week had “politicized” Coretta Scott King’s funeral, Christie said the real problem was that Lowery had driven the spotlight away from King’s legacy:
CHRIS WALLACE: Were you offended by what Rev. Lowery said about President Bush at the funeral? He is a lion of the civil rights movement. Mrs. King and her husband were protestors their whole lives. Would it be wrong for him not to bring up the issues he was concerned about?
CHRISTIE: He was a lion in the civil rights movement and he is an eloquent man and will go down in history as an important figure. Where I take exception, he was in a celebration of the life of Coretta Scott King, a remarkable woman who had remarkable accomplishments. Unfortunately, Rev. Lowery’s comments have seemingly overshadowed that celebration.
Rev. Lowery’s remarks at King’s funeral were no different in tone than eulogies given at funerals for other civil rights icons, like Rosa Parks or Martin Luther King Jr. The only reason they received special attention is because conservatives decided to attack them as “classless” and “too political.” It’s not Lowery’s fault when the right-wing tries to manufacture another “Wellstone moment.”
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Ron Christie, a token of their esteem…
February 12th, 2006 at 11:15 amWhen I look and listen to Ron Christie a couple of things come to mind. The one I am sharing is “Uncle Tom.”
February 12th, 2006 at 11:16 amJeffrey,
February 12th, 2006 at 11:22 amIs “Oreo” the other? It was the audience that made the statement. Rev. Lowery merely gave them an in.
The King children must interrupt their grieving and say how they feel about their mother’s funeral before it is hijacked any further. Or if they may remain silent and let us know with that silence that they agree with the Republican party line that the funeral was not of their choosing.
February 12th, 2006 at 11:36 amBarak O’Bama appeared on set prior to Christie’s ramblings and pistol whipped him across the temple; that explains why he looks a bit cock-eyed in that frame grab.
February 12th, 2006 at 11:37 amIt is really despicable for the media to keep parading these poor, unfortunate, obviously “special” (as in “educationally”) self loathing, al Cracker wannabes in front of the public, and attempting to “use” them as examples to convince us that Blacks are beginning to see the “republiscum light”…
From this wretched, intellectually challenged Bushite (Ron Christie), to the chromosomally deficient Jesse Peterson, the MSM keeps foisting these (face it- “mentally challenged”) Black republiscum shills upon us…
Why aren’t we getting some outrage from the Association for Retarded Citizens for the exploitation of these less fortunate Americans- even if they are Black?
February 12th, 2006 at 11:37 amFirst, why do they keep putting this cross-eyed dude on television? It is soooo distracting.
Second, the funeral was several hours. His remarks got a standing ovation and were the absolute truth — the same truth that Coretta, herself, would have told. Where is the law that says you cannot tell the truth in church?
February 12th, 2006 at 11:38 amIt nice that the repubs are throwing anyone and everyone they can dig up into this “important national issue.” Ha, Bush is so consumed by his need to “right” and “respected” that no amount of mud is enough to sling at anyone who points out his obvious shortcomings. These clowns just don’t get it…. Bush has lost support from the majority of Americans and slamming anyone who confronts him isn’t going to make Bush look better!
February 12th, 2006 at 11:40 amWhat they didn’t tell you on Faux News was that they cut out nearly 23 seconds of a standing ovation after Lowrey’s remarks when they replayed it on the air.
February 12th, 2006 at 11:45 amSHAME ON AMERICA
For your voice can be loud when you use it.
Regardless of who, what, why, or where,
America, when you speak, people just lose it.
SHAME ON AMERICA
To memorialize a pioneer in the fashion in which they lived.
To speak of their trials and tribulations
And not relate it to now and to those yet to have lived.
SHAME ON AMERICA
That your words of anger and disgust of injustices gone by
Don’t fall on deaf ears and zipped lips, blind eyes.
Your words, of dear Coretta, hurt our president, King George on high.
SHAME ON AMERICA
February 12th, 2006 at 11:50 amRon Christie is “cock” eyed for another reason….We may have to consult with Ken Mehlman and David Drier for the real reason.
Ron Christie is a twoefer when it comes to self-loathing.
Truly despicable.
-GSD
February 12th, 2006 at 11:51 amChristie on Faux no-news, I thought the cartoons ran on Saturday morning.
February 12th, 2006 at 11:53 amWho cares what some Bush handkerchief head has to say about Lowery?
February 12th, 2006 at 12:00 pmIt is unfortunate that Republican Bush lovers will do anything to protect their God George, including attacking Black leaders like Lowery! Shame on Karl Rove and GOP!
February 12th, 2006 at 12:08 pmWhile President Bush was eulogizing Coretta Scott King, his administration was supporting the Republican war on minority voting rights in Georgia.
For the full story, see:
February 12th, 2006 at 12:14 pm“Dishonoring Mrs. King.”
Lowery’s comments, and especially Jimmah Carter’s comments, were classless and too political. Liberals generally have very poor manners.
February 12th, 2006 at 12:26 pmAvengingAngel is lying, there is no Republican war on minority voting rights. Democrats do not have a right to commit vote fraud.
February 12th, 2006 at 12:27 pmIt’s really very very simple. When the right can’t win an argument on substance they always ( 9 times out of 10) step back and to the side and make it about something PERSONAL. Once you see it it’s so so simple. It’s either that you’re “rude” and “attention hog” or “too angry..tisk tisk” or the like. They ( the right wing machine) has learned that you don’t fight by engaging the issue, you side step and destroy the messanger…destroy him. And it’s often more effective if you do so with an air of polite disappointment…as in ” some” people have said or done this……or…….”I don’t want to come out and say it but, that wasn’t very polite of the Rev to upstage Coretta in ber own funeral” But of course that technique expands into it’s extreme also….the all out crass personal attack that we see right wing bloggers go for. Either way it’s not about the real issues and it’s crap. They are not honest folk who have adopted this technique. And they must be called on it again and again and again until the decoding is finished and this country can heal.
February 12th, 2006 at 12:32 pmWith all due respect psycho analyst…..I believe you are uninformed based on your last two comments. I strongly disagree with you. Some liberals have bad manners. Some Republicans have bad manners. When I spoke of the right above, I was referring to a good number of right wingers…enough to produce a trend. Neither side is listening to the other now. Neither side is all right or all wrong. However……..take a look at the state of our country.. Start there. And then wind your way around to ask “who’s in power?”
February 12th, 2006 at 12:37 pmsuzanne corrected for accuracy:
It’s really very very simple. When the left can’t win an argument on substance they always ( 99 times out of 100) step back and to the side and make it about something PERSONAL.
February 12th, 2006 at 12:37 pmpsycho.
Of course, only Republicans have the right to commit electoral fraud, and they do it so well.
February 12th, 2006 at 12:37 pmI would say both him and rice are Uncle Tom’s !
February 12th, 2006 at 12:39 pmVery funny…I agree. thot’s n TN
February 12th, 2006 at 12:41 pmSo now we see that the people who spoke at the funeral were not “politcally correct”. They spoke out and “hurt the feelings” of George W. Bush. Of course when a conservative speaks their mind and hurts feelings, they say that the liberals are being sensitive, whiny, weak and “gay”.
But, they flip the script when it suits them and when they want to attack the Democrats they say they were “insensivtive” and “unfeeling”.
Look at Mrs. Alito. Poor Mrs. Alito had to listen to mean spirited questions…..What about the politcal attacks on Mrs. Joe Wilson? That,t he Right-Wingers will say is “political hardball”, take no prisoners approach to winning an argument. What about Mrs. Wilsons’s feelings? What about the fact that Mr. Wilson was a lifelong dedicated career public servant who deserved better?
No, the game and the themes are switched and the attacks continue.
Poor dolts like Ron Crusty don’t realize that he is nothing more than a pawn for the right-wing. Lackeys, shills and dupes. Just like Al Gonzales and Condi Rice and Ken Mehlman. All minorties who are used to push an anti-minority agenda. All unelected “affirmative action” picks by the party elites to promote the agenda with a smily face.
Pretty sad.
-GSD
February 12th, 2006 at 12:44 pmThe Bush administration doesn’t care about Coretta Scott King’s work or what she was trying to do for the poor and minorities in America. No one can argue that Bush himself has no interest or compassion for the poor in America.
February 12th, 2006 at 12:45 pmThe right wingers need to stop pretending that Martin Luther and Coretta Scott King were fighting for the conservative way of life. They were very much fighting conservatism on all fronts. They didn’t like right wingers, conservatives or republicans.
Get your facts straight righties.
As was said above, the King children need to come out and put the smack down on the right wingers.
February 12th, 2006 at 12:46 pmRight on Granite State Destroyer. Just be patient. Things are turing around. I won’t quote Bush ( that would be a disaster) Let me help him out……you can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. Isn’t it the truth. :) We’re entering the ahh – ha….phase. All sorts of groups of people are starting to “get it.”
February 12th, 2006 at 12:48 pmhmmm – looks/sounds like our resident “psycho” little “wally” is back…
February 12th, 2006 at 12:52 pmad homenim remarks, edits and all…must ignore it…now you know…
Another black commentator who gets face time on the Republican corporate news network, representing the 2% of blacks who agree with him. Does anyone think Ron would get any opportunity to share his thoughts if didn’t put the rhetorical knife in Rev. Lowery’s back?
February 12th, 2006 at 12:52 pmJ.C. Watts’ father said,
“A black man voting for Republicans, is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders”
February 12th, 2006 at 12:53 pmWhen I first saw this comment I thought the photo of an African American had been subsituted for Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin. What a fuckin’ idiot. Maybe, I should say what a whore. Hope Fox gave him a generous fee.
February 12th, 2006 at 12:53 pmsuzanne, If the elections are rigged well enough they don’t have to bother ensuring that they fool all the people. They can be openly contemptuous.
February 12th, 2006 at 12:57 pm“classless†and “too politicalâ€
Okay, the Republicans can call it such. BUT, if their going to label the speech for what it was, they must also call it, the “TRUTH”!!!
February 12th, 2006 at 1:04 pmOf course, only Democrats (in Wisconsin) were convicted of electoral fraud. But liberals aren’t interested in such facts.
February 12th, 2006 at 1:05 pmOvert racism, so typical on the left: “I would say both him and rice are Uncle Tom’s !”
February 12th, 2006 at 1:06 pmJim,
While admitting that is was the truth, they also should admit that Coretta Scott King would have loved it.
February 12th, 2006 at 1:06 pmpsycho, As I said, the Reps are very good at it.
February 12th, 2006 at 1:12 pmWally…oops…”Psycho Anal”
February 12th, 2006 at 1:22 pmWhy do you insist on coming back here? How many times do you have to be kicked out before you get it? Talk about manners!
TrueBlue, Huh?
February 12th, 2006 at 1:26 pmthroughout history, man has always found out that it is easier for one group to get whatever it wants from another group by creating “judas goats” from within the controlled group. And, here is just another example of the “goat” method at work.
February 12th, 2006 at 1:27 pmAs Mr Bellafonte(spelling disgraceful-sorry) clearly described rice and powell in the not too distant past, christie is just another example of a house N…..
Rev Lowry knows it as do the other Black leaders in the news today. The problem is that christie is not only a house you know what but he is also a judas goat. Looks sharp; smells good, appear to say the right things(if only the sheep will look beneath the surface)and a large percentage of the herd will follow him into the pens!
These bastards have no morals and they stand for one thing and one thing only- Personal Profit!
Our problem is that the democratic leadership can’t seem to get its’ mind around the plain fact that you Can’t play nice to these pieces of garbage!
Just look at what it took for the dems to get at least the promise of a investigation — they had to SHUT DOWN THE CONGRESS! Shut it down!!
So tell me folks- anyone out there- with only ten (10) months to go before the 06 elections, what the hell is “being nice” getting the dems?
billjpa@aol.com
bill is just another example of a racist.
February 12th, 2006 at 1:32 pmI Blame Bush for Politicizing CSK Funeral…
Courtesy of Think Progress, who chose to suffer through Faux News, so we don’t have to, Ron Christie, a former advisor to George Bush, said that Rev. Lowery’s remarks as Coretta Scott King’s funeral service, “seemingly overshadowed that celebrati ….
February 12th, 2006 at 1:41 pmyet another cross-eyed neo-con schtick…and professional misleader
where ever do they find all these parrots
February 12th, 2006 at 1:42 pmHo,
February 12th, 2006 at 1:45 pmIn the psycho ward.
Wow,look at the disguise Ann Coulter has on now!
February 12th, 2006 at 1:46 pmGreat makeup!
To all of the “right & uptight” people who have been hypnotized by the never ending stream of lies they are being fed, “Soylent Bush is PEOPLE!!” You are all cannibals. Perhaps a switch to cannabis would be helpful? Also, How long was this pinhead an “advisor”? And what did he advise on?
February 12th, 2006 at 1:48 pmThis “Christie” appears to have gotten a $39.95 paint job from Earl Scheib. I’d like to get a peek at who is really under that make-up.
February 12th, 2006 at 1:48 pmSo tell me folks- anyone out there- with only ten (10) months to go before the 06 elections, what the hell is “being nice†getting the dems?
billjpa@aol.com
Comment by bill — February 12, 2006 @ 1:27 pm
The Cloture Crowd of Dems got labeled for what they are. Self Protectionists, cowardly, spineless neo-con enablers.
February 12th, 2006 at 1:50 pmBeing Nice?
I think they are hedging their bets not saying or doing much of anything.
Ron Christie is no doubt a man with honor and integrity. If only his critics could display such high standards. He is a free man in a country where people are free to think as they will and are not bound to a specific way of thinking by the color of their skin. As you read the messages on this board, by those who criticize him for his position, you would think he is a slave on a plantaion and dared to look upon a white woman. But it is not the white slave owners who remind him of his place. These are black men and/or women. And those black people are democrats.
February 12th, 2006 at 1:53 pmBush and Laura should NOT have come to the funeral! Mrs King never liked them and opposed everything they represent!
Now Dubya is pissed off that he was NOT praised at the funeral, but why should he have been honored?
February 12th, 2006 at 1:54 pm#50- Get help, please. You are a danger to youself, and others.
February 12th, 2006 at 1:58 pmI would say both him and rice are Uncle Tom’s !
Comment by thot’s n TN #22
Funny,
hahhahahahahaha….
February 12th, 2006 at 2:06 pmHe is a free man in a country where people are free to think as they will and are not bound to a specific way of thinking by the color of their skin. As you read the messages on this board, by those who criticize him for his position, you would think he is a slave on a plantaion and dared to look upon a white woman.
Comment by William Sire 3#50
Willfultraitor Safirewannabe,
First of all, this is a pitiful attempt at poignancy, sensitivity, and guilt-provoking angst…
Ron Christie isapolitical hack who gets paid to mislead and sell out his people’s best interest…
…the racism involved in Christie’s propagandizing is in fact being exhibited by the right wing Bushite proaganda machine…
…which deemed it necessary to put on “Black face” to rebut Reverend Lowery…
…give it a rest Willful…
…Oh and, take a good writing course…
February 12th, 2006 at 2:23 pmRev. Lowery’s remarks at King’s funeral were no different in tone than eulogies given at funerals for other civil rights icons, like Rosa Parks or Martin Luther King Jr. The only reason they received special attention is because conservatives decided to attack them as “classless†and “too political.†It’s not Lowery’s fault when the right-wing tries to manufacture another “Wellstone moment.â€
Nonsense. For the Republicans to “manufacture” a Wellstone moment they would have had to be the actors. Liberal Losers were the actors that dishonored Wellstone (not that there’s anything wrong with that) and dishonored Mr. King. (not that she didn’t help herself out in that regard as a race baitor deluxe and a money motivated huckster of King’s legacy)
This is all yours baby. You Liberals opened your mouths only to shoot off your foot, again.
And I’m loving the several references to “Uncle Tom”. Boy if you Black and White fucktards didn’t have old Uncle Tom you’d have to use the real words. What you’re really saying is that conservative Blacks are traitors to the Liberal cause and traitors to the American Negro. Stepping off the plantation just isn’t done in Liberal society. That’s why the conservatives are making inroads into the Black electorate. It seems your education initiative and racial preferences have back fired on you. Instead of being blind followers of Masta Whitebread Liberal and Masta Race Baiting American Negro Panhandler some of those slaves of yours are wising up.
I look forward to more Wellston moments. If there’s anything we can do to help manufacture them for you just give a shout.
February 12th, 2006 at 2:29 pmSHAME ON AMERICA
Comment by Max-1
Fuck you Max. Where are your from?
February 12th, 2006 at 2:34 pmlol I-Right-I > 99% of Black Americans dislike Bush and the GOP, so spin away with your baloney to defend Dubya in here!
Only person who dishonored Mrs. King’s funeral was Bush himself who sulked and scowled the whole time like a creep!
February 12th, 2006 at 2:38 pmIRI,
There should be more people like you speaking out in favour of Bush.
February 12th, 2006 at 2:40 pmHere’s the thing…
The reason the MSM is tweeked up about this is because BushCo. has instructed them to be.
February 12th, 2006 at 2:41 pmAll you needed to do was take one look at the distorted grimace on Mrs. Bush’s face during Rev. Lowery’s speech to know that the uppity Reverend was going to pay for his remarks. (Somebody PLEASE publish a close up of that picture). She looked like she wanted tie him up to a post and whip him. After his speech, Bushie and the Mrs. must have kicked Karl in the butt and told him to fire up the fax machines.
But this time, they’re losing the fight – this time the talking points are being deflected back towards them, like a mirror. Especially after the comment from Matlin – bloggers ripped her apart most magnificently.
Anyhow, by getting Mrs. Bush’s pic out there – I’m sure it will be a helpful addition to the arsenal – it puts a “face” to their hate.
lol I-Right-I > 99% of Black Americans dislike Bush and the GOP, so spin away with your baloney to defend Dubya in here!
Only person who dishonored Mrs. King’s funeral was Bush himself who sulked and scowled the whole time like a creep!
Comment by Jay Randal
Maybe at your funeral the guests will joke around and cut-up. Oh, and you’re wrong about that 99%. I’d bet there are a good 30% that will vote Republican next election. Like I said. You can’t educate someone and expect them to not question. Black Americans are starting to question the motives of the Democratic Party. There are a lot of good Christian men and women that happen to be black that just can’t square the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Party of Atheism, Treason, Abortion and Sodomy.
February 12th, 2006 at 2:49 pmIRI,
There should be more people like you speaking out in favour of Bush.
Comment by appalled ally
Nope, I’m quite enough. I can whip every dumbass Eurotrash loser and American Leftist fucktard on this board without breaking a sweat.
February 12th, 2006 at 2:51 pmlol I-Right-I > 30% of Blacks voting for Republicans is fantasy! After what Bush pulled in New Orleans he is lucky if even one African American votes GOP! Stop spewing nonsense in here please!
As for sodomy: Why did Bush hire Jeff Gannon the male hooker to bed him in the White House?
February 12th, 2006 at 2:57 pmIRI,
Are you educated? You don’t seem to question?
February 12th, 2006 at 2:58 pmI saw Ron Christie a few weeks back on CNN. They pulled him out of the closet to talk about Hillary’s “plantation” remarks, I’m beginning to think this is the only house “N”egotiator the repukes have.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:10 pmIRI,
Are you educated? You don’t seem to question?
Comment by appalled ally
One might ask you the same thing as you seem to have a very limited view of what’s going on. I understand why you are appalled but I don’t understand why you call yourself an ally.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:12 pmIRI
There is a lot you do not understand. I doubt you do understand why I am appalled, but feel free to let rip with your theory.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:18 pmIRI
There is a lot you do not understand. I doubt you do understand why I am appalled, but feel free to let rip with your theory.
Comment by appalled ally
Nope, I’m not going to give you any ideas. Besides your unease with the USA would have a lot to do with your background and heritage. I know nothing of either. But I will say this, I have 20/20 foresight, hindsight and eyesight. Not much gets by me. Be careful not to give me too much information or I’ll probably make you weep and wet your knickers.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:23 pmlol I-Right-I > 30% of Blacks voting for Republicans is fantasy! After what Bush pulled in New Orleans he is lucky if even one African American votes GOP! Stop spewing nonsense in here please!
As for sodomy: Why did Bush hire Jeff Gannon the male hooker to bed him in the White House?
Comment by Jay Randal
I know nothing about a Jeff Gannon and don’t care to. In my opinion Bush has been to cooperative with the sodomites. As for New Orleans; you must be an idiot to think there aren’t black Americans and a lot of them out there mortified by the conduct of those rascals in the NO ghettos. You’d also have to be an idiot to compare what went wrong with what went right in a disaster that covered four states and think anybody is going to give a shit because a few rabid race baiters are trying to make political hay out of the event.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:29 pmMy, my, my.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:30 pmAren’t we full of ourself today?
One comment by Ryan Neat or even Joe Sixpack sends you scurrying.
You are a minor troll.
IRI,
I do not have unease with the USA, only with where Bush and Co is taking it and debauching all it stands for.
If you have no idea of my background and heritage, how can you possibly know how they might influence my views.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:34 pmDamn, I knew it was too much to get my hopes up that I-RIGHT-I’s racist ass was really banned. Wouldn it be too much to ask to get rid of this loser Judd. I can handle a troll, but this guy is serious Jeffery Dahmer action. He probably lives in a shack in Monatanna somewhere cooking up meth while building bombs.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:39 pmThe racism is coming overwhelmingly from the left, Spudgboy. Both on this site and in the country generally.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:41 pmCopy and paste I-R-I’s lovely message and forward it to them. (the TP team.)
February 12th, 2006 at 3:41 pmMaybe then your dream will come true, Spudge!
Oh, and pyscho is wally in disguise… don’t bother, Spudge.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:42 pmI am not sure whether the comments that appear to follow my comment are directed towards me and if they are, then calling me a liar just goes to the whole point of my commentary! I won’t deign to respond to the racist statement but i will add to what I have said in the folowing manor.in order to have a discussion, there must be alternative positions presented.So, lets get it on. Make my day!(Ha!) Go into any predominantly non-white neighborhood and ask for comments regarding rice , Bellafonte, christie, O Davis, R dee, powell and you will have your answer. Visit the high schools that are now examinig the new Education cuts and ask about their plans for helping their students to find sources for financial aid, examine the statistics that are beginning to emerge regarding the Catrina Hurricane losses– And I ain’t even scratching the surface.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:48 pmSo, to those who may have been calling me a racist– Sticks and stones folks, sticks and stones!
And Oh by the way- don’t look in the mirror.
billjpa@aol.com
bill,
It is OK to take away rights, privileges and hope from ethnic minorities – just as long as you keep mouthing paltitudes about equality.
February 12th, 2006 at 3:57 pmbill, what education cuts? Edcuation spending has been going up dramatically for many years. Why would you try to pass off such an obvious falsehood?
February 12th, 2006 at 4:02 pmSpudge_Boy > I-Right-I is really desperate today. even by his low gutter standards, so defending his Dubya is growing harder! He does NOT seem to understand that African Americans dislike Bush and the fascist GOP! He said he knows nothing about Jeff Gannon the male GOP hooker either > lol.
February 12th, 2006 at 4:08 pmRon Christie is now a Faux News whore. As an African-American, I feel that he needs to get into his soul, if he has any and remember that he needs to to be re-educated on what it’s like to be Black in America. I know what it’s like and believe me, I’m seen as equal but there are still assholes who think differently. And bigger assholes like Ann Coulter, Tucker Carlson, Michelle Malkin act like they know the Civil Rights movement when they actually have never been outside their huge glass house in the suburbs to see or experience what it’s like see the injustices of racism and indifference in the world.
Ron Christie sounds like he belongs in the Bush Plantation more than he would be in the King Family.
February 12th, 2006 at 4:21 pmIRI,
I do not have unease with the USA, only with where Bush and Co is taking it and debauching all it stands for.
If you have no idea of my background and heritage, how can you possibly know how they might influence my views.
Comment by appalled ally
I know your views are anti-Bush and that’s about it. That’s why I said I can not speak specifically to YOUR PROBLEM except in the general way I speak to all Eurolosers. But know this. It really doesn’t matter where you come from I know the mentality of the European and American left wing global socialists and I know that there really isn’t anything to be done about it. We’ll just wait you out. Europe is dying and with the Grace of God the USA will still be around to pick up the pieces after the communists or the Islamists bury you.
In this country the Left is on its deathbed. God always leaves a remnant and you are talking to one of them.
February 12th, 2006 at 4:24 pmJay,
Leaving aside the foul mouthed bigotry of IRI, at least he has determination in trying to defend the indefensible.
February 12th, 2006 at 4:25 pmIRI,
You do make assumptions, along with glaring internal inconsistancies in your attempts at argument.
Why don’t you tell me a few of Bush’s achievements and win me over with the power of persuasion.
February 12th, 2006 at 4:33 pmIRI,
You do make assumptions, along with glaring internal inconsistancies in your attempts at argument.
Why don’t you tell me a few of Bush’s achievements and win me over with the power of persuasion.
Comment by appalled ally
I haven’t tried to argue anything with you so there can be no inconsistencies. Basically, you’re full of shit.
Bush’s achievements are subjective as are his failures. I imagine that you and I would count both as opposites.
Where are you from? Last chance to lie to me.
February 12th, 2006 at 4:47 pmIRI,
I am also curious. How much of Europe have you visited?
February 12th, 2006 at 4:47 pmIRI,
Try to make an argument instead of spewing abuse. If Bush has merits then tell us about them.
February 12th, 2006 at 4:51 pmJIMBO is just another liberal racist. But that’s almost redundant.
February 12th, 2006 at 4:53 pmprobably won’t happen, appalled 82…they are the hit-and-run kind…
February 12th, 2006 at 4:53 pmi asked maphrodity last week, several times: “just what ARE the policies (democratic) that have endangered the lives of the American people?…and no lies, just the facts…”
stilll haven’t heard that answer…and i’d really like to know the answer…
probably won’t happen, appalled 82…they are the hit-and-run kind…
February 12th, 2006 at 4:54 pmi asked maphrodity last week, several times: “just what ARE the policies (democratic) that have endangered the lives of the American people?…and no lies, just the facts…”
stilll haven’t heard that answer…and i’d really like to know the answer…
probably won’t happen, appalled…they are the hit-and-run kind…
February 12th, 2006 at 4:55 pmi asked maphrodity last week, several times: “just what ARE the policies (democratic) that have endangered the lives of the American people?…and no lies, just the facts…”
stilll haven’t heard that answer…and i’d really like to know the answer…
well – sorry ’bout that…i kept getting a screen full of mumbo-jumbo – didn’t know it actually posted, let alone 3 times…but, get my point? heh…
February 12th, 2006 at 5:01 pmIRI,
I am also curious. How much of Europe have you visited?
Comment by appalled ally
Enough to know it’s a great place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there. I’ve done business in France, Germany,East and West, Poland and on the Island. Now…where do you live?
February 12th, 2006 at 5:02 pmkaty,
I know. Isn’t it curious how these incredibly intelligent great debaters will not actually debate?
February 12th, 2006 at 5:04 pmIRI,
Try to make an argument instead of spewing abuse. If Bush has merits then tell us about them.
Comment by appalled ally
Bush is an American. You are still alive and not in a communist gulag or praying to Mecca five times a day.(unless you want to) For now that’s all you really need to know until you tell me where you are from and your heritage. For all I know you’re probably one of those colonial immigrants Europe is so enamored with these days. Or worse you’re from Kanaduh.
I’ve got to go. I’ll look in on you tomorrow unless some terrorist blew you up or your government has canceled your IP. In some countries it’s a crime punishable by death to even talk to me.
February 12th, 2006 at 5:08 pmkaty, the site seems to have some problems
IRI,
I’d have thought with your 20/20 foresight and hindsight and mental acuity that you could work out where I am from. Why it matters to you is beyond me.
February 12th, 2006 at 5:11 pmDoes anyone else find it odd that Faux News felt obligated to list Christie’s academic degrees, rather than his authorship of a book? Odd and revealing?
February 12th, 2006 at 5:27 pmchoff,
I did find that a little odd. I don’t think I have ever before seen degrees listed for a guest or commentator.
February 12th, 2006 at 5:30 pmRon Christie is not a new comer to the politics of personal distruction, he has worked for republican operatives for a decade, Karl probably looked at him and realised what Ann Coulter out of drag would look like.
http://www.greatertalent.com/biography.php?id=310
enough said.
February 12th, 2006 at 5:44 pmpsycho analyst- You definitely live up to the first part of your name. If a stupid troll like yourself had half of the brain that could be stored between your legs, you would understand what it’s like for someone like me to continue to fight the battles that is placed in front of me because of my skin color, but I guess you don’t have the luxury of that so that gives you the right to call me racist.
It’s the conservatives that act like that people like me should have a slave-like mentality and that I should shut up and agree with the views that are the opposite of what Dr. King, his wife and Rev. Lowery fought hard for. Your friend Ron Christie must not have had the guts to do that.
He obviously was too busy getting drunk at frat parties and
skipping Black History courses to understand what his ancestors and people like him fought and died for.
Face it, you truly must hate minorites who have opinions that differ from your majesty, King George.
February 12th, 2006 at 5:51 pmJIMBO, the Democrats openly reject Dr. King’s call for a colorblind society. It’s the liberals who act like black people should have a slave-like mentality and that they should shut up and agree with liberal views in lockstep.
February 12th, 2006 at 6:38 pmAhhh … music to my ears. Liberals are responding with degrading insults that have nothing to do with the topic of conversation. This clearly reveals them for who they are. ( # 51, # 52 and #54 )
It is no wonder we cannot get George Bush to take an agressive response to his oponents. I was prepared to respond to any criticism for my previous comments however I see nothing of substantive value for to respond to. (Nothing written on my comments anyway) So I surmise that George Bush, like me, just doesn’t see them as a credible challenge.
On to an easy victory in 2008 when I will cast my black American “uncle Tom” vote for Condoleeza Rice. With conservative republicans again breaking new ground by electing the first African american, and first female President.
Exellent and very astute observation #99. Those facts are evident in this forums thread.
February 12th, 2006 at 8:08 pmChristie’s out of the plantation fields and in the Master’s House….some things never change.
February 12th, 2006 at 8:13 pmWho’s wallace?
February 12th, 2006 at 9:30 pmpsycho > wallace was a guy on here who got banned from posting on here for being mean and nasty to everyone!
February 12th, 2006 at 10:21 pmGod knows where Fox gets these people.
I saw a piece on Fox tonight that ignored the gist of the Katrina report–that Homeland Security and the Bush people screwed up–and instead blamed the mayor and governor. So that’s how they’re going to play it, i guess.
Big surprise.
February 12th, 2006 at 10:40 pmWhat A bunch of Losers…It’s over for you trolls…We are not listening to anymore of your garbage…IRI you are now on ignore thanks for playing asshole!
February 12th, 2006 at 10:58 pm#103
And Psycho, if you don’t want to get your ass booted out like
February 12th, 2006 at 11:20 pmwallace, disappear you troll.
#93- Nope, so far the only people that your “American Bush” has put into “commie gulags” and the ones praying to Mecca that you mentioned, are those “Enemy Combatants”, and “suspected Al Queda fighters”. But Halliburton just got a BIG contract to build the internment camps to hold those who don’t follow the Bush Doctrine.
February 13th, 2006 at 2:10 amOnce again, reactionary ignorance drives right wing simpletons to blow a gasket. This shows how little conservatives knew about the work if C.S. King. Your ignorance on her view of war and her absolute disdain for it show why the right wing missed the train when it came to civil rights. C.S. King shared similar sentiments with her husband that war was a sickness, forced upon society to masquerade the pillaging of the poor. The speakers during her funeral were speaking truth to power and were accurately paraphrasing what she stood for. One thing is certain, she did not stand with those like Ron Christie.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:56 am#61 & #80 IRI, you make my sides hurt so much! You talk of Eurotrash and you’re native of the state with more b*llshit per square inch in the Earth… well, DeLay and the likes (this is you) move sometimes to Washington or elsewhere but, as the ignorant mules they’re, can’t understand (or stand) other’s achievements, you’re so ashamed of being rednecks in suits… Just reviewed the movie “Giant” and, you mean you weren’t a supporting actor there? Some redneck WASP who don’t wants to be compared to mexicans, even being a panhandler as them?
February 13th, 2006 at 7:19 amWell, another thing comes to mind: Bush never wanted to meet the NAACP, unlike all the previous presidents. He don’t wanted a private meeting to hear the political position of colored people. He neglected the adequate attention to New Orleans, a Democratic and highly colored city, when Katrina hit.
And now republicans are weeping because Lowery (a colored politic activist, fellow of the deceased, who was a political activist and family fellow too), elected by the family to be one of the eulogy speechers, talked about the life of political fight of the deceased and the job left to her successors.
So, in short, repubs don’t want to hear any dissenting voice coming from the colored minority EVER?
February 13th, 2006 at 7:29 amIt’s too bad that — after Mort Kondracke made his comment that the 23-second standing ovation for Rev. Lowery seemed underwhelming — they did not have a video clip to show him of Bob Barr speaking at the Conservative Political Action Committee meeting this past weekend, when Barr said “Do we truly remain a society that believes that every president must abide by the law of this country? I, as a conservative, say yes. I hope you as conservatives say yes.”
The audience of conservative activists remained “deathly quiet.” Nobody said anything. And no applause.
Doesn’t this tell you everything you need to know?
February 13th, 2006 at 9:08 am#111- Simply chilling…
February 13th, 2006 at 9:35 amOkay, I remember now!! That photo up top reminded me of someone. Awhile back, I saw a picture of Michelle Malkin, her face was all scrunched up, and her eyes were crossed as well. It would be fun to see them side by side.
February 13th, 2006 at 9:42 amJust reviewed the movie “Giant†and, you mean you weren’t a supporting actor there? Some redneck WASP who don’t wants to be compared to mexicans, even being a panhandler as them?
Comment by Evil Spaniard
Great movie but a little before my time. Redneck WASPs built this country. In Texas we built it side by side with Tejanos who would have shot you for calling them Mexican-Americans.
February 13th, 2006 at 9:54 am#60 I-Right-I, 30% you say. I will gladly take that bet. Not only that, I will put up $1,000 to your $100. Money talks, bullsh*t runs the marathon!
February 13th, 2006 at 11:34 am#114 Yeah, I know you aren’t an evolved texan. Your ideology is paleolithic. So you will seem a fascist to those ultra republican texans in the movie…
But were Eastern liberals those who wrote the Constitution. Conservatives were all pro-king George. No texan (then Texas was a mexican province, remember) was in the writing. And you want now to paint the Constitution as a conservative’s achievement… yeah, rigth.
And for shoting people… yeah, I know that republicans (even VPs) are eager to do it, makes sense or not. When ideas end, you resort to violence. And being short of ideas, your only resort is violence.
And now, you’re equating yourself to tejanos? Not in your habitual line, IRI, you despise every other “race” in the earth. I see that you resort to anything to make your point, even when the only good use you have for other “tejanos” is shot at them if the drive by your neighborhood, even in daylight.
You don’t impress me.
February 13th, 2006 at 12:07 pmto: psycho analyst- Read fool. Read! ya want facts the ya gotta read. Heres something for you to look at. Feb 7 Washington Post article regarding proposed cuts to education programs. Read- then talk. It can get embarassing.
February 13th, 2006 at 12:18 pmThat’s why the conservatives are making inroads into the Black electorate.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #55
Irrelevant-Retarded-Inbred,
You’re right except you meant to say “backroads”,
…and they wish you’d stop…
…burning their churches…
February 13th, 2006 at 1:09 pm#60 I-Right-I, 30% you say. I will gladly take that bet. Not only that, I will put up $1,000 to your $100. Money talks, bullsh*t runs the marathon!
Comment by Zarahspop
OK, so I overestimated the number of black folk of with above average intelligence. Sue me.
http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/Default.aspx
February 13th, 2006 at 2:26 pmThat’s why the conservatives are making inroads into the Black electorate.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #55
Irrelevant-Retarded-Inbred,
You’re right except you meant to say “backroadsâ€,
…and they wish you’d stop…
…burning their churches…
Comment by big papa
I’m betting it was your boy Calypso Loui’s cult that is doing the burning. Many of those churches had a mixed congregation.
February 13th, 2006 at 2:30 pmBut were Eastern liberals those who wrote the Constitution. Conservatives were all pro-king George. No texan (then Texas was a mexican province, remember) was in the writing. And you want now to paint the Constitution as a conservative’s achievement… yeah, rigth.
Comment by Evil Spaniard
The closest thing to a liberal in those days was Jefferson and Payne but even they wouldn’t recognize liberalism of today. The majority of our founders were New England church goers and fairly fundamentalist Christian. More than quite a few of Puritan stock like John Adams. They were conservative. Of course you’d need to know what a conservative is to understand that. But, let’s just say that as conservatives they were dead against the four pillars of modern American Liberalism; Treason, Atheism, Sodomy and Abortion.
And for shoting people… yeah, I know that republicans (even VPs) are eager to do it, makes sense or not. When ideas end, you resort to violence. And being short of ideas, your only resort is violence.
I was speaking of defending ones honor and the Tejano of Texas’ Independence would shoot you for calling him a Mexican. In fact they still will. I don’t despise anyone except my Irish sister in law and I’m not equating myself with anyone including illegal aliens. Please note that there is a difference between the illegal Mexican law breaker and the American guy who happens to have a Spanish surname. One is a criminal from the minute he stepped across the border and the other is an American.
I see that you resort to anything to make your point, even when the only good use you have for other “tejanos†is shot at them if the drive by your neighborhood, even in daylight.
Let me get this straight; a guy that goes by “Evil Spaniard” wants to accuse me of drive-by shootings? That’s some good stuff.
You don’t impress me.
Nonsense, of course I do. It’s just that I don’t care one way or the other what impresses a loser.
February 13th, 2006 at 2:54 pmBut Halliburton just got a BIG contract to build the internment camps to hold those who don’t follow the Bush Doctrine.
Comment by Cyra Brown
Wrong. They didn’t just get it. Those camps are already up and running in West Texas. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a cell with you name on it.
February 13th, 2006 at 2:57 pmThank God that we live in a country where we can excercise freedom in speech. Only a fool-harted black person would view Dr. Lowery’s statements as inappropriate. Rather many of you know it or not we are still fighting the war of racism, prejudice, and profiling. Since when are there rules to fighting. Some might bring a stick or a nife… Lowery brought a cannon. Shoot the cannon brother shoot the cannon. The voice of Dr. Lowery comes from a unspeakable, Meadgar Evers, Martin King, and Malcom X. No Ron Christie is not a Uncle Tom. He is a House NEGRO… The story goes that the Masters house burned down and the field NEGRO’s celebrated while the house negro’s cried and moaned “us lost our house”… fool thats not your house.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:09 pmThe story goes that the Masters house burned down and the field NEGRO’s celebrated while the house negro’s cried and moaned “us lost our houseâ€â€¦ fool thats not your house.
Comment by DpG
Reminds me of the LA riot where the fool’s burnt down their own houses. House Negro huh. This country isn’t your house huh? How much responsibility are you willing to take for being held in contempt, for being profiled and for being the but of bigot’s jokes? Any? This stuff just happens and you was do’n nut’n? Really, who is the fool? Me for thinking you are an idiot or you for making the same mistakes over and over again expecting a better outcome?
February 13th, 2006 at 5:24 pmHow sad for Ron Christie. The jokes are so easy and numerous that I won’t even go there. I will say….House Negro? Maybe, but kind of easy as well. And many house negroes were just as subversive as the field hands, just in different ways. But Ron seems to be part of an ever frightening group of well-educated black americans who feel that to ignore a history of racial strife and injustice, will somehow make their lives easier. They may be in a position to help make the world better for everyone, yet they cynically choose not to. That is sad. Hmmmmm, maybe he is an Uncle Clarence after all.
February 13th, 2006 at 9:05 pm#122 TO IRI:
The closest thing to a liberal in those days was Jefferson and Payne but even they wouldn’t recognize liberalism of today. The majority of our founders were New England church goers and fairly fundamentalist Christian. More than quite a few of Puritan stock like John Adams. They were conservative. Of course you’d need to know what a conservative is to understand that. But, let’s just say that as conservatives they were dead against the four pillars of modern American Liberalism; Treason, Atheism, Sodomy and Abortion.
The conservatives in the Constitution signing wouldn’t recognize you as one of theirs. They were educated, you aren’t. They were for freedom, you’re not. They were against government meddling in everyday affairs, and you are for it as soon as serves your purposes… You don’t deserve the name conservative.
And treason? What treason? Leaking Valery Plame status as covert agent? Misleading the country under false pretenses? Flying offshore the family of the chief terrorist Bin Laden?
Atheism? The Constituion was made to grant freedom to the people, not to curtail their rights.
Sodomy? There are any mention to sodomy in the Constitution? Or only on the laws of the most retarded states? Are these laws applied? Why not? Maybe because is against the Constituition principles because meddling in private life is against the Constitution? Why are you so happy talking of sodomy all the time? You think too much of it? Maybe a freudian slip?
Abortion? Medical abortion wasn’t even invented at the time Constitution was wrote. So discussion about this topic corresponds to actual people, and if the majority of people wants it, so be it.
I was speaking of defending ones honor and the Tejano of Texas’ Independence would shoot you for calling him a Mexican. In fact they still will. I don’t despise anyone except my Irish sister in law and I’m not equating myself with anyone including illegal aliens. Please note that there is a difference between the illegal Mexican law breaker and the American guy who happens to have a Spanish surname. One is a criminal from the minute he stepped across the border and the other is an American.
First of all, Mexico is also in America, so they are americans too. Don’t be so uppity about the “american” meaning.
Second, Texas was a mexican province well before all those wasp settlers came to the state, only to secede later. The mexicans crossing today the border to the USA have exactly the same right as the wasp settlers had then. And if the mexican minority there becomes a majority, and decide to secede, they will have exactly the same right.
And “criminal”? Only for searching a better payed job? This is sick. Maybe itsn’t the american way to do it?
Let me get this straight; a guy that goes by “Evil Spaniard†wants to accuse me of drive-by shootings? That’s some good stuff.
In fact “Right between the I’s” (maybe you think I don’t speak enough english to know what means your alias, even in “tejano” jargon?), my nick comes ironically from an USA videogame, where ALL spaniards where portrayed as evil malignant people. Popular in USA literature, but ironically, false, as many historical assumptions in the USA. I don’t accuse you of drive-by-shootings, but i know the insane texan penchant for firearms. I don’t need to travel to your state to know the supermarkets of weapons there, the gun shows, the average number of guns per person, or the “shoot first” laws. I don’t have any weapon, nor condone them. And drive-by-shootings isn’t habitual news in my country. Happy?
You don’t impress me.
Nonsense, of course I do. It’s just that I don’t care one way or the other what impresses a loser.
I don’t care if I’m considered a loser by your standards or not. In fact, if I had any point in your “winner” to-do list, I will being taking antipsychotic drugs to not harm my family. And being texan makes you a winner? Good one. Or maybe yes, the ones who reach “human” level are really winners in the evolution scale, coming from a sub-zero environment…
February 14th, 2006 at 6:58 amBut Ron seems to be part of an ever frightening group of well-educated black americans who feel that to ignore a history of racial strife and injustice, will somehow make their lives easier. They may be in a position to help make the world better for everyone, yet they cynically choose not to. That is sad. Hmmmmm, maybe he is an Uncle Clarence after all.
Comment by directorman
I’d say he’s part of a group that refuses to allow race baiters and professional victims to dictate how he should live his life. I’d say that this is a man I don’t have to worry about sneaking up behind me and shooting me in the back, jacking my car, littering the streets with little bastards, dealing drugs and costing hundreds of thousands of dollars of my money to keep behind bars. I’d say that a man like that is making the world better for everyone.
I’d also bet he doesn’t butcher the English language and help make millionaires out of common street trash.
February 14th, 2006 at 9:39 am#120 I-Right-I
“OK, so I overestimated the number of black folk of with above average intelligence. Sue me.”
You have got it all wrong, I don’t want to sue you. I just want to take you up on your bet. Guy, you can’t come here and make statements that you swear to be factual and then decline when someone takes you up on your absurdity. I didn’t challenge an entire message board to a bet, it was you. To be honest, I can’t believe that the entire board didn’t try to get in on that action. What’s it gonna be? Put up or shut up! Oh by the way, what is the bar of above average intelligence? I have the slighest idea what “number of black folk of with above average intelligence” means.
February 14th, 2006 at 11:12 am122 TO IRI:
The closest thing to a liberal in those days was Jefferson and Payne but even they wouldn’t recognize liberalism of today. The majority of our founders were New England church goers and fairly fundamentalist Christian. More than quite a few of Puritan stock like John Adams. They were conservative. Of course you’d need to know what a conservative is to understand that. But, let’s just say that as conservatives they were dead against the four pillars of modern American Liberalism; Treason, Atheism, Sodomy and Abortion.
The conservatives in the Constitution signing wouldn’t recognize you as one of theirs. They were educated, you aren’t. They were for freedom, you’re not. They were against government meddling in everyday affairs, and you are for it as soon as serves your purposes… You don’t deserve the name conservative.
Comment by Evil Spaniard —
Oh, that’s a good one. A civics lesson from a Euroweasel in a part of the world where communism and fascism compete for the hearts and minds of freedomless peoples.
And treason? What treason? Leaking Valery Plame status as covert agent? Misleading the country under false pretenses? Flying offshore the family of the chief terrorist Bin Laden?
The kind of treason that aids and abets the enemies of the USA and undermines our military. Not something you would find unusual or even undesirable.
Atheism? The Constituion was made to grant freedom to the people, not to curtail their rights.
Atheists are incapable of living free and ultimately opposed to anyone that does. See Soviet Union for details.
Sodomy? There are any mention to sodomy in the Constitution? Or only on the laws of the most retarded states? Are these laws applied? Why not? Maybe because is against the Constituition principles because meddling in private life is against the Constitution? Why are you so happy talking of sodomy all the time? You think too much of it? Maybe a freudian slip?
Sexual degenerates have no place in America. They’d still be in the closet if it weren’t for so many prominent libbers being degenerates themselves.
Abortion? Medical abortion wasn’t even invented at the time Constitution was wrote. So discussion about this topic corresponds to actual people, and if the majority of people wants it, so be it.
Abortion has been around since Biblical times when it was considered murder. Murderers have no place in a country that loves freedom.
I was speaking of defending ones honor and the Tejano of Texas’ Independence would shoot you for calling him a Mexican. In fact they still will. I don’t despise anyone except my Irish sister in law and I’m not equating myself with anyone including illegal aliens. Please note that there is a difference between the illegal Mexican law breaker and the American guy who happens to have a Spanish surname. One is a criminal from the minute he stepped across the border and the other is an American.
First of all, Mexico is also in America, so they are americans too. Don’t be so uppity about the “american†meaning.
Mexico is Mexico and America is America and we kicked their ass once to prove it. We’ll no doubt have to do it again one of these days.
Second, Texas was a mexican province well before all those wasp settlers came to the state, only to secede later. The mexicans crossing today the border to the USA have exactly the same right as the wasp settlers had then. And if the mexican minority there becomes a majority, and decide to secede, they will have exactly the same right.
Texas has been under six flags and I don’t mean the amusement park. Mexico was only one of them. The Mexicans that are crossing today are illegal aliens and have ZERO rights as an American. The idea that illegal aliens have the same right as the American settlers that came to Texas is a Zeropean socialist fantasy and one they would not wish for themselves.
And “criminal� Only for searching a better payed job? This is sick. Maybe itsn’t the american way to do it?
Break the laws of the USA and you are a criminal it matters not what reason you have. What kind of a globalist lunatic are you anyway?
Let me get this straight; a guy that goes by “Evil Spaniard†wants to accuse me of drive-by shootings? That’s some good stuff.
In fact “Right between the I’s†(maybe you think I don’t speak enough english to know what means your alias, even in “tejano†jargon?), my nick comes ironically from an USA videogame, where ALL spaniards where portrayed as evil malignant people. Popular in USA literature, but ironically, false, as many historical assumptions in the USA. I don’t accuse you of drive-by-shootings, but i know the insane texan penchant for firearms. I don’t need to travel to your state to know the supermarkets of weapons there, the gun shows, the average number of guns per person, or the “shoot first†laws. I don’t have any weapon, nor condone them. And drive-by-shootings isn’t habitual news in my country. Happy?
In this country (most of it) we have a right to protect our persons and property and we will do it. It’s one of the things that sets us apart from the losers in countries who must depend upon the state to protect them. Often it turns out that someone needs to protect them from the State since they don’t have the guns to protect themselves and then that’s when you call the USA. If you are a bad guy doing bad things in this country or another country Americans will f’ing kill you. It’s what we do and we’re good at it. It’s one of the things that makes me proud to be an American. What little peace, freedom and security you have no matter where you live is probably due to Americans. Damn right we shoot first.
You don’t impress me.
Nonsense, of course I do. It’s just that I don’t care one way or the other what impresses a loser.
I don’t care if I’m considered a loser by your standards or not. In fact, if I had any point in your “winner†to-do list, I will being taking antipsychotic drugs to not harm my family. And being texan makes you a winner? Good one. Or maybe yes, the ones who reach “human†level are really winners in the evolution scale, coming from a sub-zero environment…
February 14th, 2006 at 11:37 amYou have got it all wrong, I don’t want to sue you. I just want to take you up on your bet. Guy, you can’t come here and make statements that you swear to be factual and then decline when someone takes you up on your absurdity. I didn’t challenge an entire message board to a bet, it was you. To be honest, I can’t believe that the entire board didn’t try to get in on that action. What’s it gonna be? Put up or shut up!
Comment by Zarahspop
What is absurd is your pretense at literacy. This is what I said…
“I’d bet there are a good 30% that will vote Republican next election.”
Oh by the way, what is the bar of above average intelligence?
The average IQ for Black America is 85. That would make 86 above average for Black America wouldn’t it?
I have the slighest idea what “number of black folk of with above average intelligence†means.
I understand completely. In item 1 we’ve already determined that you are not verbally facile. With a little study you could probably improve.
February 14th, 2006 at 5:51 pmI-Right-I, it is pretty simple. You make things up and you have no intention of actually betting anyone. You may be stupid but you are no fool. This really doens’t have anything to do with the inteligence of black folks. It has everything to do with your words and the fact that you don’t stand behind them. Kinda par for the course when it comes to our friends right of center. To be honest if I were right of center and reading this board I would be nauseated by you. But anyway, my offer still stands. If you don’t want to take up the bet your silence is more than sufficient.
February 15th, 2006 at 11:49 am-Right-I, it is pretty simple. You make things up and you have no intention of actually betting anyone.
Comment by Zarahspop
The phrase “I bet” is a figure of speech. Look it up.
You may be stupid but you are no fool. This really doens’t have anything to do with the inteligence of black folks. It has everything to do with your words and the fact that you don’t stand behind them.
The phrase “I bet” is a figure of speech. Look it up.
Kinda par for the course when it comes to our friends right of center. To be honest if I were right of center and reading this board I would be nauseated by you. But anyway, my offer still stands. If you don’t want to take up the bet your silence is more than sufficient.
The election is still a ways off but considering that only 9% of black America voted Republican last time I’d say it’s a pretty safe bet that I was being optimistic in thinking there could be a possibility of a 30% turn out for Republicans. OK? I admit I was exaggerating. Of course I wouldn’t actually bet on it.
There, you win. How’s that? Feel better? Good.
Oh, by the way. Folks right of center love me. Folks left of center love me. Everybody loves me except you. What’s your problem?
February 15th, 2006 at 12:41 pmhey christie, (as i’m waving and sitting across the table from him) i’m right here. rotflmao. now folks that crap is funny with his bobble eyes. do you think he sees who he is talking to? or NOT?
February 15th, 2006 at 2:02 pmi-right-i did you mention treason. it’s ironic you don’t put treason under the bushy ran gov–grandaddy should have been tried for treason but the nazi’s saved him for being one of them–in which started the bush legacy in the nazi ideology–go check the library of congress and do some researching. reichstag fire=patriot act; gorbel=rove; hitler=bush; usa=nazi germany. and that is a fact. sodomy? sodomy=skull and bones(which is the “secret society” of future hand picked political heads that will be running our country and use it for blackmail) and henry kissinger is doing the sodomizing with is own tally whacker and the recipient of all the bjs. and in skull and bones there is NO red and blue distincion, it’s everyone who attends. you act like you think on your own but you don’t—obviously you’re registered republican. you joined a group that is not someone who has his own ideology or “think tank” but someone who is a follower. and that is what i don’t understand about folks. to vote one way or the other does not mean you have to register under a group. let’s stop being sheeples americans and start using our conscious and common sense.
February 15th, 2006 at 3:48 pm“i-right-i did you mention treason. it’s ironic you don’t put treason under the bushy ran gov–grandaddy should have been tried for treason but the nazi’s saved him for being one of them–in which started the bush legacy in the nazi ideology–go check the library of congress and do some researching.”
Comment by BS
Treason is happening here and now. That is my concern. As regards your idea; I’ve read about it. Lots of people in this country worked with Hitler prior to the war. Lots of people in this country didn’t give a shit if Hitler did kill a million or six Jooooooz. Ted Kenedy’s daddy, Henry Ford and one of America’s greatest hero’s, Charles Lindbergh were all on the same page in thinking Hitler was a great man.
The fact is prior to 1942 Hitler was generally favored by just about everyone and was even talked about as a possible Nobel Peace Prize candidate. In short, the fact that Bush Sr did business with Nazi Germany prior to the war is meaningless to anyone other than those who love conspiracies or wish to convict the son for the sins of the father.
“you act like you think on your own but you don’t—obviously you’re registered republican. you joined a group that is not someone who has his own ideology or “think tank†but someone who is a follower. and that is what i don’t understand about folks”
I’m not a registered Republican. I act like I think on my own because I do and that means I don’t fall for the conspiracy nonsense that you ascribe to. Been there done that. There is a conspiracy of sorts but it’s far above our heads, beyond our grasp and outside the realm of our understanding. There is a battle being waged and it impacts every man in every nation and there are secrets but you’ll never find them where you are looking. You can get just a glimpse of them here…
Dan 10:12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
…and here….
Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
There’s the conspiracy buddy….you’re off on a wild goose chase. I bet you’ve bought $100 worth of books too. Who are your following?
February 16th, 2006 at 9:40 am
Ron Christie is good for one thing. He makes me laugh, and is good inintentional comedy. One look at his face, with those absurd eyes, and a burst of his ridiculous super white effeminate voice, and I’m guffawing.
February 17th, 2006 at 8:45 pmGood people,
Stumbled across this site and wanted to pass this on IRT the discourse going on here…
“Never wrestle with a pig… you both get filthy and and worse, the pig likes it.”
Blessings
February 20th, 2006 at 3:05 am