Figures Show Cheney Hunting Accident Is Rare
Figures Show Cheney Hunting Accident Is Rare
National Review’s John Podhoretz stirred things at the Corner today when he said that the Cheney hunting accident was a “a very big deal,” and that it was “disturbing as well that there was a news blackout that lasted nearly a day about this serious incident.”
Podhoretz quickly came under fire from readers, most of whom claimed that Cheney didn’t need to make the incident public quickly because hunting accidents happen all the time:
E-mails are flying fast and furious, most of them criticizing me for living in a “concrete jungle” and not understanding that, hey, hunting accidents are very common, every hunter has been peppered with buckshot, the accident was probably Whittington’s fault, and that this is all a media frenzy and the last thing the Vice President need do is apologize or say anything.
Apparently Podhoretz has a lot of uninformed readers. From Editor & Publisher:
Doug Pike, an outdoors reporter at the Houston Chronicle…said his reporting since Sunday found that Texas had only 2.7 hunting accidents per 100,000 hunting licenses sold in 2005. “That is the lowest since 1966 when they started keeping records,” he said. “It is uncommon.”
It’s worth noting that Katharine Armstrong, who was with Cheney when the accident occured, has the same basic line. “This is something that happens from time to time. You know, I’ve been peppered pretty well myself,” she said. Sounds like someone’s been on too many hunting trips with Dick Cheney.
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This is the relevant TEXAS CODE regarding a sheriff neglecting to do his/her duty:
Art. 2.16. [40] [47] [48] Neglecting to execute process
If any sheriff or other officer shall wilfully refuse or fail from
neglect to execute any summons, subpoena or attachment for a
witness, or any other legal process which it is made his duty by law
to execute, he shall be liable to a fine for contempt not less than
ten nor more than two hundred dollars, at the discretion of the
court. The payment of such fine shall be enforced in the same
manner as fines for contempt in civil cases.
Acts 1965, 59th Leg., vol. 2, p. 317, ch. 722.
February 13th, 2006 at 4:40 pmI would hope so. He only hunts once in a while doesn’t he?
February 13th, 2006 at 4:41 pmThe good thing is, this is really embarrassing for Oil Slick Dick. The bad thing is, it’s taking a lot of attention away from much more important stuff like the fact that Plame Wilson was working on IRAN at the time of the outing (of course, it’s likely that Oil Slick was involved in that too).
February 13th, 2006 at 4:42 pmArmstrong has been peppered by Dick alright. More than once and all over the face, neck and chest for sure.
-GSD
February 13th, 2006 at 4:42 pmI can’t get worked up about this. Let Jon Stewart and the late-night shows have their fun. Bad PR for Cheney, the Plame-Iran-AQKhan-Libby-Cheney caper is far more important.
February 13th, 2006 at 4:43 pmMore relevant TEXAS CODE:
Art. 2.13. [37] [44] [45] Duties and powers
(a) It is the duty of every peace officer to preserve the peace
within the officer’s jurisdiction. To effect this purpose, the
officer shall use all lawful means.
(b) The officer shall:
(1) in every case authorized by the provisions of this Code,
interfere without warrant to prevent or suppress crime;
(2) execute all lawful process issued to the officer by any
magistrate or court;
(3) give notice to some magistrate of all offenses committed within
the officer’s jurisdiction, where the officer has good reason to
believe there has been a violation of the penal law; and
(4) arrest offenders without warrant in every case where the
officer is authorized by law, in order that they may be taken before
the proper magistrate or court and be tried.
(c) It is the duty of every officer to take possession of a child
under Article 63.009(g).
Acts 1965, 59th Leg., vol. 2, p. 317, ch. 722.
Amended by Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 685, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1,
February 13th, 2006 at 4:45 pm1999; Subsec. (c) amended by Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 1276, Sec.
5.0005, eff. Sept. 1, 2003.
Also, I am from New Hampshire and I know one person who was injured in a gun accident. My dopey neighbor who shot a chipmunk on the pavement and the b.b. bounced up and went through his lip.
All of my other friends and family have hunted for all kinds of critters. No one was shot, no one has shot anyone.
That is all spin bunk. Getting shot is not part of the hunting experience.
-GSD
February 13th, 2006 at 4:45 pmEchoing similar comments, does ThinkProgress really need to use space on this? It’s a distraction from what is important.
February 13th, 2006 at 4:45 pmAnyone remember the gun club skit from Monty Python?
February 13th, 2006 at 4:48 pmThe fact that folks like Pods are not trying to keep this from becoming a “big deal” screams DISTRACTION. With new info coming out on Plame and Dick’s now publicly obvious role in it, shooting some GOP-friendly codger in the face seems a small sacrifice to focus attention away. We can have a laugh at this, but need to keep focus on the real issues at hand. Please.
February 13th, 2006 at 4:48 pm#8 I agree but you have to admit the bafoonery around the whole loaded Dick thing is funny. I’ve been singing “Cheney’s got a gun” all morning.
February 13th, 2006 at 4:50 pmSuper Edo, link us to something you care about , to me these are always the sweetest treats when I am pointed to something that came from a link posted on a thread. Like this one that someone else posted on another TP thread; Enjoy;http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/02/national_securi.html
February 13th, 2006 at 4:51 pmSuperedo, I agree with one exception. Oh how I wish I could of been one of the shot gun carriers and hunters. No quail for me, just twirl and fire off both barells, oop’s so sorry Mr.? …Blessings
February 13th, 2006 at 4:53 pmOne doesn’t hunt quail with buckshot.
Bear maybe – not quail.
February 13th, 2006 at 4:55 pmFly-man – this commentary from the BBC disucsses some not-too-often discussed items about Guantanamo Bay.
Sorry, Nico, but unless Cheney has broken a law by not cooperating with local law enforcement or delaying reporting the incident, this story ‘does not hunt’ (sorry) besides the other stuff going on.
February 13th, 2006 at 4:56 pmForgot to add my editorial on Guantanamo captives being 95% handed to them by the Northern Alliance and other sundry drug lords in 2001:
-Dick Cheney, June 2005
Maybe that should have been:
February 13th, 2006 at 5:01 pm
hmmm sounds like the Bubble encloses The entire White House and yes this does matter as it shows how the White House supressess everything.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:02 pmI’m from Nebraska and ALL of my relatives hunt. No one in my family — for the 45 years I’ve been alive — has ever been shot in a hunting accident. One of my dad’s uncles drowned in a boating accident while fishing, but no hunting accidents — ever.
Maybe they’re just too stupid to handle firearms safely in Texas.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:07 pmAnybody who has ever used a gun can recognize that these things will happen from time to time.
We don’t know a lot of the varibles here. Maybe wind drove the bullet off course?
Anyways, the American public isn’t concerned about the Vice President getting into an accident. There’s no obligation for Dick Cheney to call the New York Times every time he does something interesting.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:07 pmI agree with everyone that this is not
February 13th, 2006 at 5:07 pmreally important in the full scheme of
things, but it creates a narrative reflecting
the overall incompetence of the administration.
Everybody will have heard of this story soon.
A lot of red-staters will know Cheney screwed
up big-time. I may not agree with the full-on
NRA people I know, but one thing they do care
about is gun safety. It is a very important
issue.
Remember we can’t just talk to each other.
This story reaches to many people who may be
having doubts about BuchCo. and the Late-night
jokes will only help.
It is not that people will ignore other issues
because of this story, but rather it plants
a seed that will allow the other stories to
penetrate the winger defense shield.
I happened across an appellate case (Summers v. Tice (1948) 33 C2d 80) in which the two defendants who accidentally shot a hunting partner were found to be negligent. Here is a critical part of the decision:
The case can be found here.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:09 pm#19,
“bullet”? Have you read anything about this story?
February 13th, 2006 at 5:10 pmAre you hoping no one else has?
Try:
…these things will happen from time to time.
on a real hunter sometime.
Either way, maybe it was a weird Act of God.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:13 pmI agree with everyone here but let’s just beat the shit out of them while we can.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:13 pmHeh. Imbedding shot pellets into a “friend’s” face & neck is “interesting” to these guys.
Anyway, back to Oil Slick Dick’s treasonous act of outing a CIA agent who was working on IRAN.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:14 pmFaith-based shooting accident?
February 13th, 2006 at 5:15 pmYou are joking, right?
I bet they all have those bullet hole stickers on their jackets ..just as a joke because hey it happens once or twice a year down in Texas…good thing they got good insurance for all those hospital trips. That is why they are the strong ones on national security…when even the women like Katharine Armstrong can take a gun shot and say sure I been peppered from time to time …you KNOW they are crazy killers that can eat RPGs for breakfast and still take a IED for lunch. IEDs!!! Ya they hurt a little more but we all get those once or twice per year down here in Texas.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:17 pmTalk about getting the tlaking points out fast and trying to stick to them. Ive seen the following quote in more than one comments section almost word for word…
“hey, hunting accidents are very common, every hunter has been peppered with buckshot, the accident was probably Whittington’s fault, and that this is all a media frenzy and the last thing the Vice President need do is apologize or say anything.”
By the way, real huneters I know say getting pepered with buckshot is not common at all. And the very phrase “getting peppered” is being used to lessen the fact that the man was shot with a shot gun and has been living in the hospital intensive care unit for a couple of days. If it was not a serious incident he would be home sipping scotch telling the story to his friends and raising more cash for Bush.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:18 pmI think this is funny. As if you people couldn’t HATE Dick Cheney anymore already!
The only problem is – YOU STILL DON’T have the power to investigate those 18 hours. AND least Cheney took his friend to the hospital which is more than any Democrat would do. They usually leave them drown!
February 13th, 2006 at 5:21 pmHere in Pa. for 2004 there were 56 hunter related shooting incidents,4 fatal (1 self-inflicted) and of the other 52 incidents 13 were also self-inflicted. Pa. has statistics back to the 1910s and the incidents per 100,000 hunters have dropped below 10 through the 1990s and the 00s.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:24 pm#28 …one of the MSM titles I read about this story called that Shotgun a “pellet gun” …I mean can you be any more dishonest? As far as I am concerned this entire story is stupid unless Cheney is on some kind of killing spree, but still how could someone unknowningly title their story “Cheney shoots hunting partner with pellet gun.”????
February 13th, 2006 at 5:24 pmGetting “peppered” usually refers to getting hit by shot that falls out of the sky after losing most of its energy. What happened to Whittington was getting “shot,” not “peppered.”
Cheney was using a 28-gauge shotgun and, depending on which source you read, #6, #7 or #8 shot. That’s relevant for a couple of reasons, the main one being that Whittington’s still alive. Another is that if the shot formed a relatively compact pattern when it hit Whittington (striking face, neck and chest only, as opposed to some hitting his feet and some going over his head), there’s no way in hell Whittington was 30 feet away when it happened. More like 12-15, max.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:32 pm“I think this is funny. As if you people couldn’t HATE Dick Cheney anymore already! Rightly So…”
Oh sweetie, hate is the preferred emotion that you arrive with. I forgive you for projecting your own emotions, and hatred on others. The partisan brain makes people act irrationally, because your reason centers are disabled. It’s why your claims are always so wild, silly, irresponsible and unrelated to the world. Poor thing, you have my pity sweetie.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:32 pmI love how the new word for “getting shot by a shotgun blast” is “peppered.”
It’s Operation Downplay once again.
Just wait until we get one of these news stories: “Disgruntled Postal Worker Peppered Co-Workers”
“Saddam Ordered Political Prisoners Peppered”
“Son Accidentally Peppers Father”
I guess if insults are salt to the wound, the pepper is what caused the wound in the first place.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:33 pmBuckshot is NOT the same as birdshot. With a 28ga Shotgun, they probably were not using buckshot. But the point remains that getting shot is NOT part of the game. Nobody expects to get shot hunting as part of the risk. Sure, you know it can happen, but it’s not something you expect to happen. You do everything you can to make sure it doesn’t happen!
February 13th, 2006 at 5:33 pm“Either way, maybe it was a weird Act of God.
Comment by Gary Ruppert — February 13, 2006 @ 5:13 pm”
Oh sweetie, is that the same god that told you children and women are property, that slavery is good, that the earth is 8000 years old and flat, and that donkeys can talk? Well, when you can’t cope with reality, I guess a fantasy world of bizarre ideas are all that one is suited for.
I forgive you pumpkin for not being able to live in the real world. I’m guessing you were brainwashed from an early age to believe in fantasies more than reality. Poor pumpkin, you have my pity. And I forgive you for not being able to face the real world.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:35 pmShoot people and leave them to drown?
February 13th, 2006 at 5:35 pmAre you on a drug or something?
As for the 18 hours, just like the 18 minutes or
so of tape, it is just the empty time that
cause the problem.
BTW, Why did it take three hours to get to the
hospital? Would it have taken that long if
Cheney had a medical problem?
36
I forgive you pumpkin for not being able to live in the real world. I’m guessing you were brainwashed from an early age to believe in fantasies more than reality. Poor pumpkin, you have my pity. And I forgive you for not being able to face the real world.
I WAS brain washed from an early age…thats no excuse. Just one summer spent reading at the library cured my ignorance problems..Gary is willful in his disillusionment.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:39 pmThe Pa Game Commission keeps statistics on the size of shot involved in the incidents e.g. #2-2,#4-7,#5-2,#7-1,#7.5-2,BB-1,slug-4 (2 fatal).
Anybody looked for Texas stats? Just curious. Dick is old enough to not have to go to hunter school in Tx.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:42 pmWe don’t know a lot of the varibles here. Maybe wind drove the bullet off course?
Comment by Gary Ruppert — February 13, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
This is the most ridiculous comment in this thread. Hands down.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:42 pmTed the Swimmer works his way into yet another thread,
February 13th, 2006 at 5:45 pmand IRI would rather be sprayed with manjuice.
Just like it’s ok when an 8 year old accidently shoots a 6 year old, it’s ok for Dick to accidently shoot someone.
For the love of Pete, GUN SAFETY. People want to have guns to hunt, to protect themselves (that’s a funny one) or to target shoot but GUN SAFETY should be manditory for ANY gun owner. My dad stressed and stressed and stressed gun safety. I’d go hunting with him when I was under 10 and never even used or had a gun but safety was his first priority. My dad quit hunting for health reasons before I was old enough that he actually allowed me to shoot. But dammit, to this day I know a lot more about gun safety then Dick “VP” Cheney.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:46 pmCORPUS CHRISTI — Hospital officials said today that Austin lawyer Harry Whittington is recovering rapidly after he was hit in the face and neck from a shotgun blast fired by Vice President Dick Cheney in a weekend hunting accident, but would not say when he would be released. Though these officials did say that Mr. Whittington appeared to be some kind of half man half lizard because of the unusual speed that his wounds were regenerating themselves back into healthy flesh. They postulated that maybe the Vice President had noticed that Whittington was an abomination against god and decided to take action.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:46 pmThe Statesman had a 2/9/06 article that mentioned 30 hunting accidents in 2005,4 of which involved quail hunting
http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/outdoors/02/9legcol.html
February 13th, 2006 at 5:49 pm” the American public isn’t concerned about the Vice President getting into an accident. There’s no obligation for Dick Cheney to call the New York Times every time he does something interesting.” – - Gary Ruppert – -
February 13th, 2006 at 5:50 pmThanks for the daily laugh, Gary. You’re a regular endorphin fix for me, even though I think you’re a ringer on this site.
Hell, I’m a liberal and I seem to know more about guns & ammo than our resident freeper Gary R.
Guy, when you are hunting, you DON’T even point a loaded weapon in the direction of people.
You blamed the wind, (mother nature that environmental bitch) god (what? are you really an atheist or are you looking for a FastPass to Hell like a Disneyland ride) but you never ever blamed the moron holding the gun.
They should take away YOUR right to arm bears.
February 13th, 2006 at 5:51 pmI could not open that page. How many involved Dick Cheney?
February 13th, 2006 at 5:53 pm#18
Do you really want to compare Nebraska with Texas?
February 13th, 2006 at 5:54 pmHere is a link to REAL conservatives… you know the ones that used to run the Republican party before the southern racists took over…
http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/crownforum/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9781400050642
These people are so much in common with liberals yet because of a few hot bottons they are easily tricked into thinking they are nothing like liberals…
February 13th, 2006 at 6:01 pmIt must be getting tougher for you righties to come up with explanations for the non-stop parade of incompetence. Mission Accomplished, Bring ‘em On, No WMDs, the Plame Outing, Katrina, Jack Abramoff, NSA wiretaps, Tom Delay, Coingate, now dead-eye Dick. Your excuses and parsing of words, goes on and on. Whatever happened to the Republicans accepting responsibilirty?
February 13th, 2006 at 6:01 pmWaltTheMan,
here is another link to The Statesman article:Most hunting accidents easily preventable
Now, we are talking about two different statistics. Doug Pike is talking about number of accidents per licences sold. The Statesman’s Mike Legget talks about the overall count. From Legget’s article, it seems to me a lot of the people involved in these accidents had no licence to hunt.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:04 pmQuestion – Does the Vice President have the appropriate hunting license?
February 13th, 2006 at 6:07 pmWe don’t know a lot of the varibles here. Maybe wind drove the bullet off course?
Comment by Gary Ruppert — February 13, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
This is the most ridiculous comment in this thread. Hands down.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — February 13, 2006 @ 5:42 pm
Gregor, I’d offer to enroll him in one of my Science classes next year, but High School might be too advanced. Perhaps we could get him in a good third grade classroom?
February 13th, 2006 at 6:08 pmUnbelievable,
Third grade, eh? Maybe even that is too advanced. While we are at it, can we get Mr. Ruppert a good course on basic reasoning skills?
He is obviously in desperate need of one.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:15 pmGary Ruppert typed “We don’t know a lot of the varibles here. Maybe wind drove the bullet off course?”
Ah, another magic bullet theory. Hey, Gary, shotguns don’t use bullets, babe.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:15 pmAs I understand it, basic reasoning skills are obtained at a young age and the brain loses it’s ability to make new connections with age. I think it’s too late for Gary and the 39% that still believe Bush is doing a hellofa job.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:20 pmGerald, I don’t think attitudes should be displayed using a straight line. I think a more appropriate representation is a full circle, or more probably a sphere.
I find these time curious in that it is Liberals who are defending limited governmetn and individual rights.
up is down. a loaded gun needs to be shot.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:21 pmNow you know Gary is a retard. If not, he had to be laughing his ass off when he clicked “Post-I agree.”
February 13th, 2006 at 6:22 pmFunny how these asswipes seem to make uncommon occurances become common fuckups.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:23 pm#55,
Some shotguns CAN fire slugs (12 and 20 Ga. for
February 13th, 2006 at 6:25 pmexample), but in this case it was indeed “shot”.
I am not sure if they make slugs for 28 Ga. guns.
I understand it is not a common gun, at least
for adult men.
VP shoots friend. Another one for the history books.
This administration isn’t going to be known for their Social Security reforms, that’s for sure.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:28 pmthere are much more important issues to press cheney on right now–let this go. push him on his encouragement to libby to share confidential information with the press–c’mon, treason, not accidental shooting.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:30 pm#56,
February 13th, 2006 at 6:32 pmThe brain goes into innerconnection recession somewhere between 7 and 13. Nourishment is a factor. Females reach peak at a lower age and that is the reason they learn faster at an early age. Typically a female has as many neural connections at 8 as a male at 10. At about 25, they go equal and after that it is variable when DNA takes precidence over gender.
I wonder what the NRA response to all this is?
February 13th, 2006 at 6:41 pmhahahha…
i just got another dosage of hilarity from #19.
lets all look at it and laugh.
now Gary, shot guns spray pellets..not bullets.
secondly…lets say it were a gun that uses bullets..do you really think the WIND COULD DRIVE IT OFF COURSE??! HHAHAHAH
what..was Nosferatu Cheney hunting in a hurricane????
hahahhahahahah
ROTFL
LMAO
ooo…my sides hurt!!
seriously tho..there are better things to talk about. like a photo of Abramoff we’ve been snarling for…or the GOP’s many attempts to use only voting machines in future elections.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:42 pmAfter reading more of the stories,I realized it was Whittington’s fault he got shot. Apparently, the quail was keeping cover and Cheney spotted one of them circling him so as to launch a beak-to-back attack.Cheney called on the military training he never got,waited until the quail was ready to pounce,then whirled and fired. Only then did he notice that the quail was actually using unWhittington for cover but too late. The guilty quail was being pursued by Special Forces but the operation was turned over to the local war-lady. Unfortunately,the quail escaped and is believed to be plotting revenge. The number 2 quail,however, was shot and killed by a predator drone later in the day.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:43 pmFilm at eleven.
But, what exactly are you hoping to insinuate by saying that it is uncommon? It’s not like Cheney meant to hurt the guy…so…he’s old? I don’t get the insinuation here.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:43 pmok ok..so SOME shotguns can fire bullets..
more appropriately termed slugs since they’re huge..
still..could the wind drive a higher caliber bullet like a slug off-course?
where’s Gary the physicist?
and who the F#*# would hunt quail w/ a bazooka like that?
February 13th, 2006 at 6:46 pm67
I think it is mostly fun … not sure anyone is claiming Cheney actually meant to shoot someone that completely agrees 100% of time on all subjects.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:47 pm68…
Take a look at the 911 conspiracy theory given to us by the government. The laws of physics is sooo pre911.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:48 pm#67
it doesnt seem like they’re trying to insinuate anything
against Cheneys intentions in shooting a PERSON IN THE FACE.
rather..TP is showing how quickly this administration and
its supporters will spin, downplay, misdirect, mislead,
and straight up LIE about any and everything so they are
not held accountable for their actions.
if they fart, clinton will get blamed somehow and then republicans will go aroud calling bill..’stinky’ ..
February 13th, 2006 at 6:52 pmor something stupid like that.
#68,
A 28 Ga. is a very small shotgun, but okay
February 13th, 2006 at 6:52 pmfor use against a small bird, though it
is considered a child’s gun.
Wind can drive bullets off-course, but
only at long range. It makes a difference
for the biathlon (see the olympics).
At 30 yards, not so much.
OK, I’m off topic a little.
You know those high powered long distance rifles. The scopec come with adjustment clicks. You use the up/down for distance. You use the right left for wind.
Long distance, the wind will still push a bullet.
But that isn’t what happened here.
February 13th, 2006 at 6:56 pmThe Smoking Gun has the accident report: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.html
February 13th, 2006 at 7:01 pm#19 the wind will not affect a Bullet over a thirty yard distance. It may however affect a shot gun shell, but not very much. There is no way this is anything except a bad hunter and an irresponsible gun owner in action.
#29 is funny. Except that Cheany has medical people on hand at all times. I’ll bet if he were shot he would not have taken three hours to get to the hospital. Thre – four minutes tops.
I have seen the right say that the left and the media are blowing this out of proporation because it is a personal metter, umm hey now, the VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SHOT A MAN THIS WEEKEND, hello! But when Clinton fell down the stair at Greg Normans, that was not overplayed at all, was it? Of course no one got shot, but for weeks all we heard was people wanting to know what women were there etc… Much more important than the vice president of the united states shooting a man.
February 13th, 2006 at 7:12 pmThird grade, eh? Maybe even that is too advanced. While we are at it, can we get Mr. Ruppert a good course on basic reasoning skills?
He is obviously in desperate need of one.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — February 13, 2006 @ 6:15 pm
Okay, Gregor, kindergarten it is!
February 13th, 2006 at 7:17 pmI wonder what the NRA response to all this is?
Comment by banana — February 13, 2006 @ 6:41 pm
I’m sure God (a.k.a. Charleton Heston) is furiously arranging his next NRA gathering in Houston as we speak…
February 13th, 2006 at 7:21 pmNo, CH, like DC has advanced Alzheimers.
February 13th, 2006 at 7:26 pmi love how “rightly so…” emphasizes how we have no power to investigate those 18 hours as if thats something to be proud of..
i’m still waiting for one of these clowns to blame clinton for Nosferatu Cheney’s shooting accident…but ‘rightly so…’ got pretty close by saying a democrat would let his/her friend drown (if this was a reference to KAtrina..technically it was a republican that let a democrat drown since nagin attempted to garner funding years prior)
this goes to show you how deranged these people (some conservatives) actually are. They’ll support anything
their precious administration does regardless of legality or even morality.
seeing people as anything but people first is pathetic.
February 13th, 2006 at 7:48 pmHUMAN first.
I’m pretty sure very few hunters claim that… he means birdshot. There’s also a very big difference between getting sprayed from 70 yards and being peppered at 30… many hunters I’m sure have been sprayed— very few have been at a range where the BBs break the skin, though. If the BBs broke the skin then that could have been serious, and it should have been reported– had they not then no harm no foul.
February 13th, 2006 at 8:27 pmWell karl Rove found a silver lining, If the thugs don’t toe the white house line they have to hunt with the VP
February 13th, 2006 at 8:30 pmI used to hunt with my father, before he died years ago from cancer, so I know the rules and safety of hunting!
As for hunting accidents being rare? Depends on the type of hunting > shotgun accidents firing at birds are usually minor, but deer hunters are killed by fellow hunters every year! I got shot at once while hunting, and I had a orange vest on, so some hunters like Dick Cheney are trigger-happy dangerous fools! Plus anyone who shoots from their vehicle is a certified moron! I bet Cheney jumped out fast and his gun caught on the door and fired hitting his friend > we will never know the truth because Dick lies worse than George Bush!
February 13th, 2006 at 9:43 pmUp in New York, I had a coworker who came north from North Carolina. His first year there, he decided to go deer hunting in the fall. He lasted all of three hours in the field. The bullets whistled by him like in a combat zone. From that fall forward, he returned to North Carolina for the hunting season. Base lesson, those red state boys know who they are shooting at.
February 13th, 2006 at 10:10 pmJust imagine this happening to Al Gore or Kerry or Howard Dean. The shitstorm over on the Right would overload the Internet.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:44 amThere’s more important issues you say? Have you learned nothing from Clinton’s sex life? People aren’t interested in important issues. People are interested in mind boggling stupidity.
And becoming the first Vice President to shoot a man since Aaron Burr, that’s a big D’Oh!
February 14th, 2006 at 12:51 amHomer Simpson is jealous, he thought he was the stupidest man in america.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:05 amThe reason the righties feel that this is not Dick’s fault, must be because Mr Whittington was clearly engaging in “obstructionist” behavior. And you know how much they hate that.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:59 amWell they insult hunters (good ones) when they suggest this is very common. Serious hunting accidents do happen every year, but they are not common. If they were, hunting would have more regulations.
FEMA
February 14th, 2006 at 7:39 amSo if the VP wasn’t such a pussy that he had to use a 28 ga. shotgun instead of a 12,16 or at the minimum 20 ga. like most MEN do the victim would most likely be dead.
I guess for sure Whittington is glad the VP is a wuss.
February 14th, 2006 at 7:46 amThis sort of thing is common. What? You’ve never been shot in the face? You tree hugger!
Cheney needs to stay away from the guns, and stick to giving John Kerry fashion advice.
Also, he was exercising his war powers.
February 14th, 2006 at 11:25 am#84
I would have been a self inflicted wound with those guys. Kerry would probably ask for another Purple Heart.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:16 pm#82
As you sure you weren’t where you were suppose to be?…i.e. foward of the hunting party.
“I bet Cheney jumped out fast and his gun caught on the door and fired hitting his friend”
Read the accident report.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:03 pm#89
You don’t hunt quail much do you, DUMBstruck?
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=28%20gauge
“…like most MEN do the victim would most likely be dead.”
And if Cheney used anything else but a 28 gauge their wouldn’t be much left of the bird! LOL!
February 14th, 2006 at 1:11 pmI’ve been a bird hunter for 30 years and have NEVER had an accidental shooting.
February 15th, 2006 at 9:38 amI’ve hunted with some real wackos too!
I’m more inclined to believe that this was no accident, that this time instead of telling someone to “Go fuck yourself”, he shot him in the face during a heated argument.
No, CH, like DC has advanced Alzheimers.
Comment by WaltTheMan — February 13, 2006 @ 7:26 pm
Who has replaced him? I’m sure they are furiously at work then…
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February 15th, 2006 at 5:26 pmMaybe we should give all politicians and lawyers guns and send them all hunting together. All in favor say Aih
February 17th, 2006 at 12:31 am