POLL: Americans Trust United Nations More Than Bush On Iran
POLL: Americans Trust United Nations More Than Bush On Iran
More bad news for President Bush: the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows that Americans put more confidence in the United Nations to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons than they do the Bush administration.
How confident are you in the Bush administration’s ability to handle the situation in Iran?
– Very or Somewhat Likely: 45%
– Not Too Confident or Not At All Confident: 55%
How confident are you in the United Nations’ ability to handle the situation in Iran?
– Very or Somewhat Likely: 47%
– Not Too Confident or Not At All Confident: 51%
Two other responses from the poll explain why President Bush isn’t trusted. By nearly 40-point margins, Americans fear President Bush won’t do enough to address the problem, and that he’s likely to rush into war:
How concerned are you that the U.S. will not do enough to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons?
– Very Concerned or Somewhat Concerned: 67%
– Not Too Concerned or Not Concerned At All: 30%
How concerned are you that the U.S. will be too quick to use military force in an attempt to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons?
– Very Concerned or Somewhat Concerned: 69%
– Not Too Concerned or Not Concerned At All: 30%
Still figuring out how all this fits into Karl Rove’s “strong on defense” strategy for ‘06. We’ll keep you posted.
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keep Bolton out of this! he'll just piss Iran off... and everyone else...
February 14th, 2006 at 11:58 amSome idiots never learn...
For ONE percent to trust Bush doing ANYTHING except a jail sentence is a tragedy!
America is DEFINITELY full of witless, dumba*ses...
45%...huh!
February 14th, 2006 at 11:59 amI don't know about anyone else but I don't find it comforting that only 4% more trust the UN to be able to do something than the administration...
Mind you I'd say that my feelings are that the Administration will try to go in with all guns blazing and screw it up instantly why the UN will take a slower, more methodical approach and we won't know if it's working for another year or so... I'd rate Bush's chances of success at 0-10% and the UNs at 60-70%.
Z.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:00 pmIt's still stunning, with respect to the first two poll questions' results, how they nearly reflect the 2000/2004 election results. Once a Dem or a Republican, nothing that happens will change one's view.
45% are confident in Bush's ability to handle Iran. With a track record of Iraq, Medicare Plan D, Katrina, and Plame. Point made.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:01 pm#4, Punchy you missed Afghanistan, where four more US soldiers died this weekend. Heckuvajob, Rummy.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:06 pmAt least the captain of the Titanic went down with his ship. After all, who would sail with him again? Apparently 45% of Americans would sail with Chimpy into a conflict that will set the Middle East alight.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:08 pmNow we know why repubs want to do away with it. Why would they spend all of that time and intelligence (which they are lacking and won't hire) on making good policy when they can just get rid of the "enemy."
They seem to have an awful lot of enemies lately.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:08 pmThey seem to have an awful lot of enemies lately.
Comment by progressive and proud
Winners always do.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:10 pmPunchy, here are some of those 45%...
February 14th, 2006 at 12:13 pmGood morning Adolf, has today's '5 minutes hate' finished already?
February 14th, 2006 at 12:15 pm#8 Serial killers too.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:17 pmRove IS "Strong on Defence". He's barely even heard of Jack Abramoff.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:18 pmTerry, that clip you linked too is... hmmm....let's see now.... BLOODY SCARY
I'll bet IRI is good friends with those people.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:22 pmThe U.N. has had more that a year to do ANYTHING regarding Iran's nuclear program since the E.U. began talks with Iran...which failed BTW. The U.N. is inpotent when it comes to solving an international crisis. Same thing happened in Bosnia.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:23 pm"Winners always do."
Explaining the right-wing attacks on Bill Clinton I see.
I-Right, when did the government become the very thing that the right-wing must defend at all costs? Remember for years the government was the enemy, the government was the problem. Now it is support the government at all costs.
The moral decay of the modern day right wing must make some of the ancient Romans envious.
-GSD
Also, Bush and the Neo-Cons will destroy America if they take on Iran. The US will not be able to sustain military attacks in Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran. That is what makes empires collpase...it is called overextending the military. But people like I-Right don't really care about the troops. The troops are just pawns to be sent around the globe willy, nilly. I-Right and the rest of the wingers like to see dead Americans. They love to see dead Americans. They were happy in the Black Hawk incident in Somalia and they get a tear of joy for every body bag that comes home from Iraq. That is their badge of honor. Dead US troops.
Sick people indeed.
-GSD
February 14th, 2006 at 12:24 pmWell, the new is no news at all. Even with all the smear campaign against Annan trying to tie him to the "Oil for food" program scam (there were a lot of american oilmen involved, but no evidence of Annan himself), time has demonstrated that republicans aren't cleaner than the UN. And people isn't blind forever. And even in the USA, where the UN is so unpopular, people sees corruption and failure, and now, UN is becoming the lesser evil...
February 14th, 2006 at 12:25 pmLooking at the IRAQ war and the failure of WMD the conclusion is that Sanctions were working in Iraq.
Saddam was caged. The lives lost, the injured, the costs, the continuing violence, the continuing wars simply dont pan out.
having lived for forty years under the Fear of Russian Nuclear Weapons, Fall out Shelters, climbing under school desks in Mock Air Raids..(just dated myself)
Frankly I am tired of the Crisis management style of Our Leadership, everthings a crisis which must be solved RIGHT NOW! except that rushed legislation is usually flawed. As we see with Bush and the Warrantless spying
(Note on Judges of FISA; James Robertson: Until recently one of eleven federal judges serving on the top secret the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Courts, Robertson submitted his resignation -- in protest of [President Bush's illegal domestic spying program] according to two sources familiar with his decision." As Carol D. Leonnig and Dafna Linzer of the Washington Post reported, "Robertson indicated privately to colleagues in recent conversations that he was concerned that information gained from warrantless NSA surveillance could have then been used to obtain FISA warrants." Said "one source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the classified nature of the FISA warrants, 'What I've heard some of the judges say is they feel they've participated in a Potemkin court.'" Resigned, December 2005. )
I say put Sanctions in Place on George, Rummy, Cheney, Condi
February 14th, 2006 at 12:26 pmand the rest of Bushco chicken hawks of Potemkin
Not to take anything away from the fine work that Nico and TP did, but I am suspicious of any poll that doesn't start by asking, "How informed are you on the issues I'm about to ask questions about?" We've become dependent on these poll results and we forget just how flawed they can be. They assume that the person answering the questions: a) is giving truthful answers; and, b) knows enough about the topic to give an informed answer. I find it hard to believe that they can claim their results have an error margin of only 3-4%, as many polls do. It has to be much higher than that. (I also have a hard time accepting that a poll of only a couple of thousand people, as many polls are, can tell you what a quartrer of a bilion people are thinking. Again, too many assumptions.)
But that's just me.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:27 pmDick in History
There have been 602 dead American troops in Iraq since Deadeye Dick Cheney made his: "Insurgency is in it's last throes" comment in 2005.
-GSD
February 14th, 2006 at 12:32 pmre: lots of enemies...
Everyone looks like an enemy when you're as consumed with fear as Bush and his steadffast supporters.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:35 pmTracy,
The U.N. is impotent? Who's program was working just fine in keeping Sadam without WMDs? Yeah there was corruption and that came from everyone involved...including the American side. Now let's see who the screw up is. Bush invaded the country without any true proof. 10s of thousands have died for that decision. The country is is utter chaos. Terrorists are in the country where they weren't before. The people of Iraq are being blown up daily. Not enought water, electricity, etc. Yeah Bush knows how to handle an international crisis real well. He creates them. For what purpose...who knows. He probalby doesn't know either.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:38 pmTo Post 18.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:39 pmAmen.
Initially, I'm always surprised that the numbers aren't even greater in opposition to this administration's efforts for war.
Then, I begin to picture these people conducting these polls in a lame ass mall setting or a grocery store; only getting feedback from people who'd probably give a better informed response on celebrity gossip than they would on serious political issues.
80% are concerned Iran will give nukes to other Arabs. This is important. But USA does not want Mutual Assured Destruction/Cold War with Arabs. They want crusades.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:40 pmThey want to give them democracy then tear it apart.
I read an interesting take on the US/Iran situation going on now and it appeared to make it look as though we were pushing Iran to the confrontation level. We ratchet up the rhetoric and avoid direct discussion. Culturally in order to save face with their own people and with the peoples of the region, Iran needs to ratchet up the rhetoric whether they believe it or not. So it all escalates. If the US slowed the rhetoric down, Iran would also slow their rhetoric, and eventually we can come to the table to discuss.
I just finished a class where we discussed, among other things, how to negotiate within different cultures. It was very eye opening. I doubt the Bush administration is so stoopid that they have no clue about the cultural differences and styles, though at times it definitely seems that way. Nope, I believe that they deliberately take this confrontational attitude for a number of reasons. They don't want a peaceful resolution, they want a conflict. They want this conflict for political purposes. They need to keep up the tough guy image with their constituents at home. Fighting is good, making the other guy do it your way is good, compromise and meeting in the middle is viewed as weak, as is negotiating in general. Negotiating from a cultural perspective is a definite no no. Or of course it is entirely possible that they have no clue about the Persian culture (Iran is not Arabs it is Persia).
My last point is partially borne out by my ever so smart brother in law. We had a discussion about cultures (he's a bushophille) and his view is that every culture in the world wants to be like us, and if they don't they should. He had no concept of the oriental (particularly China, Japan, Korea) way of viewing issues through the lense of we rather than the lense of me as we here in the US view the world. He had no concept that homogenous cultures want to maintain that identity. He had no concept and did not understand even after explanation, that cultures view things differently than we do. For instance we are a low context culture where we have to spell it all out while some cultures are high context and take many things as they are. For example in the US we may say I love you to our mate, while in Korea they may just look at the mate and simply say love because the I and the You is a given to them. That is a simple situation, but it illustrates how differently we view the world than other cultures. Even with this discussion, he still could not fathom that another culture does not want to be us, and that they might actually be wired completely different. Of course his family is also one that travels overseas and still call the locals foreigners. If he is any indication of the people in power then we are truly in a mess worse than we realise. Regradless of whether or not he is representative of those in power or not, he definitely does appear to be representative of those who support the power.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:41 pmPunchy, here are some of those 45%…
Comment by TerrytheTurtle #9
Terry, that clip you linked too is… hmmm….let’s see now…. BLOODY SCARY
I’ll bet IRI is good friends with those people.
Comment by Bob Loblaw #13
Hell Terry and Bob,
Other than the Black inbreds in that clip, everyone else is a relative of IRI...
In my opinion "SICKENING" is a more appropriate word for those morons in that video clip...
They have no freakin' idea (not only of where those countries are) but what they're inviting when they say they want the U.S. to "bomb" a country or making a "GD parking lot" out of a whole region...
...these inbred mofos are inhuman, and deserve exactly what they wish upon others...
IRI and the whole lot of 'em should be first "povertized"...
...then diseased and made to suffer long tragic lives...
...then sent to hell with their right wing neocon chickkenhawkkk gods...
February 14th, 2006 at 12:45 pmAfter evrything that has been bungled by this administration, some people still wont admit it's failure.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:46 pmI DO NOT see this as party loyalty at all, this is how members of a cult behave even in the face of the truth. It scares the hell out of me to think what it will finally take to deprogramme these "Rovebots".
#24 Exactly Mark. Most of us don't want to be like the USA. Poor or rich. I have enough money and knowledge to get a visa to work in the USA, and make more money, but I see no need of it. I'm happy in my country, and like my culture, but is a thing some people there doesn't realize (take IRI as an example, he can't grasp that I prefer my country, culture and politics, with all their faults, far better than Texas).
February 14th, 2006 at 12:49 pmYep the United Nations I trust! bushco had planned the invasion of Syria and Iran the same time they planned teh invasion of Iraq . Its about Oil/Natural gas and the postion to dominate the world policies and economies.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:49 pm#14 Tracy the IAEA is part of the UN, and they had the sites sealed, but given the rhetoric if the neo-kooks they probably feel that negotiating with the UN will get them no further than it did for Iraq. The ramp-up to the Iraqi war in 2003 probably leads the Iranian leaders to believe that Bush has a plan and intends to implement it using the UN as cover just like he did in Iraq in 2003. John Bolton's stance in the UN also doesn't give many countries not in lockstep with Bushco much hope that the UN will have an HONEST chance to actually defuse the situation, because the Nukes are not the issue that has bubble-boy and dead eye dicks panties in such a twist, The REAL problem is the Oil market that Iran plans to open in March that will use Euros as the currency of exchange and will lead to the downfall of the dollar on the world economy, which will lead to financial disaster at home. Once foreign countries no longer have to accrue and hold dollars to buy oil on the world markets then the 8 trillion dollar debt owed by the US government could come due, with out the Gold to back the debt then the economic choices become rather harsh devalue the dollar to the point where the debt can be serviced or renege on the debt followed by the collapse of the worlds economy on a scale even worse than 1929-1933. Not what the current renters of the Lincoln bedroom have in mind if they are to maintain the 51% of the electorate in order to have their mandate.
February 14th, 2006 at 12:58 pmBush is impotent when it comes to international confrontation. His two modes are: we can't do anything (Iran, N.K.) or let's invade and really make a mess of things (Iraq).
Remind Cheney's supporters that he wanted to drop sanctions against Iran. If it were up to Cheney, Iran would have nukes already.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:01 pmNice points Mark.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:15 pmRepublicans are Crusaders. It is really the primary instructive role of their Christianity.
I agree with Wayne Schneider that polls are flawed because the assumption that people are giving informed answers is simply wrong.
In this case, the questions are misguiding since Pres Bush's hostility towards Iran has little or nothing to do with that country's nuclear program.
The nuclear programme is proving to be a convenient excuse, like Hussein's WMDs. Just like with Iraq, the facts are "fixed around the policy", and diplomatic strategy is "arranged around the military planning".
Just like with Iraq, the Bush administration is taking steps towards a preemptive strike -let's not forget Iran has no nuclear weapons. Bush & Co are once again engaging in fearmongering when they prognosticate that Iran might, one day, develop an atomic bomb (remember Rice's "muhsroom cloud" scenario?).
The Bush administration is not really concerned with enforcing the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which, by the way, the US continues to violate by providing nuclear weapons technology to non-nuclear countries such as Turkey.
This will be, once more, an aggressive grab for another country's natural resources.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:16 pm"How confident are you in the United Nations’ ability to handle the situation in Iran?
– Very or Somewhat Likely: 47%
– Not Too Confident or Not At All Confident: 51%"
******Only TP would crow about a poll that that shows 51% of people with little or no confidence in the corrupt, impotent UN as a GOOD thing. I'm reminded of that rocket scientist, al Gore, "What's up is down...AAAAND (BIG roar here!) whaaat's DOWN is UP" Brilliant!!! (but only when compared to the mental agility of a goldfish)
Terry, enjoyed the video of the "man on the street interviews". What an excellent example of a shoddy education system. John Dewey would be soo proud!!! Between the mismarked map and the "high brow" questions, I'm surprised the NEA has such a large representation in Democratic Party issues. They should put a bag on their head. Paper or plastic???
February 14th, 2006 at 1:17 pm#29 Clif is right on. The US has no interest in a negotiated settlement, the issue is not WMD (again), it is the petrodollar. John Bolton is there to undermine the UN at every step. The UN will fail because they are supposed to fail.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:18 pm#33 They were people without Pell Grants to reach University. And now, the number will only grow.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:20 pm#33 As opposed to 55% with little or no confidence in Bush, guess we know why your panties are twisted today.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:24 pm#34 Too much people (in the USA) thinks that the UN is only a proxy for the USA foreing policy. But, alas, a lot of things have changed in the world from 60 years ago. The partners in the council of security aren't the downed empires they were, practically all the peoples in the Earth have affiliated themselves to the UN, and the forces equilibrium has changed, with the echonomical rise of some countries, as China or India. Now, using the UN as the old proxy don't work, and curtailing its power, only would reduce USA influence in the world, with every unjust action of the USA. But, sadly, many in the USA want to go alone, thinking that it's the best way, the way of the stronger. But remember, force varies with time, and the world is big. Promoting a fair world only would help the USA.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:29 pmMark recites from his class, "If the US slowed the rhetoric down, Iran would also slow their rhetoric, and eventually we can come to the table to discuss."
*******(applause.....applause.....) Thank you, Mark, for that eye opening observation - your teachers say you deserve an A++++.
I was a kid when the hostages in Iran were taken, but I remember the awful, spineless response taken by the biggest wimp ever to sit in the Oval Office, Rosalyn Carter's husband. My dad's best friend was a Bahai from Iran - mercifully, he was able to leave Tehran as the Islamists there had a bloody rage about other religious points of view. Sound familiar???? You and teachers seem to have glommed on to the Neville Chamberlain approach to "let's just all get along". You don't make friends with a poisonous snake - well, maybe YOU do.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:29 pm#38 MA (Baraccus?) he was able to leave Tehran as the Islamists there had a bloody rage about other religious points of view. Sound familiar????
Yep, sounds pretty much as Pat Robertson's or Ann Coulter's begs for assassination of foreing and national leaders.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:33 pmYeah mighty,
When your lords were propping up Saddam they bent over backwards accomodating this killer. Down to the very custom of not crossing one's leg as to spare the Genocidal Leader the degradation of having to see the bootom of one's shoe.
You're a confused person, mighty.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:35 pmthe un could not find it's feet let alone iran and stop them. they are screwing up dufar so bad and we want them to work on iran. what a joke. i think the people who responded to this question were all democratics. especially dumb democratics.
frank la may summerfield, florida
February 14th, 2006 at 1:35 pm#33 "They were people without Pell Grants to reach University. And now, the number will only grow."
Comment by Evil Spaniard — February 14, 2006 @ 1:20 pm
******Excuses...excuses....Waiting around for a hand-out is a typical progressive response - how about those without the grants getting off their a$$e$, getting jobs, and paying their OWN tuition - what a concept!!!!! Listening to progs here, this site should be called "Whiners of the World Unite"
Clif - it's Valentines Day - no panties twisted for me. Thanks for caring....and sharing..
February 14th, 2006 at 1:36 pmOf course, the intellectual giants here at TP savor a backwards glance through the rear view mirror of their pathetic take on history. (Had the majority of the international wizards here been in some sort of policy making position at the time - they would have thrown their collective fingers to the wind and huddled in paralyzed fear.) For the 100th time - (I realize some skulls are thicker than others) Saddam was fighting our sworn enemy, the Ayatollah. You recieve NO EXTRA credit points from Mark's teacher for your backward looking critique used to bolster a lopsided and failed political agenda. Bye for now.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:44 pm#43 Yeah, no handouts even for widow mothers of soldiers killed in Iraq... search some info about VA benefits cut... or people whose whole state was wipped out by a natural disaster, they must go alone in their own... what a great country you defend! And You will find a lot more examples in the internet.
And MA, keeping people ignorant is a pretty lame way of ruling a country. A Pell Grant is a little investment for having one more rocket scientist, one more physician or one more economist for your own country... A good CEO knows that investing enough in I+D+I brings great return of investment, ask Bill Gates... With your mentality, we would run now space projects with giant abacus...
February 14th, 2006 at 1:46 pmsee:
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Outed_CIA_officer_was_working_on_0213.html
http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/?articleid=8091
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7681
For Bush Administration concern over our penetrating Iran's nuclear capabilities.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:49 pmYou're a Pharisee, mighty. You will always justify your inconsistancies. Just get back into your hole and wait for your lonely death.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:50 pm#44 So you were for dictatorship before you were against it? What a flip flopper! Run to Bagdad to defend Sadam, now!
February 14th, 2006 at 1:51 pm#43 MA your panties are twisted, valentines day has nothing to do with it, the pathetic failures of Bushco and dead eye dicks latest military fiasco provide the twist.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:57 pm#8 So do the paranoid. HA!
February 14th, 2006 at 2:09 pm#43, MA did you pay your own tuition? Or did you sponge off pop?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:14 pm#51 Or did she use pell grants, student loans?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:22 pm#21
Bosnia? Rwanda? Palestine/Israel?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:25 pmMaybe the USA could have done something about Iran, but the Admin. made sure to screw that up by outing Plame, who we all now know was collecting info on WMD's in Iran.
How could anyone be so stupid as to think Bush is the man to accomplish a peaceful resolution?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pm#33 Only TP would tout 51% figures? Umm a little ove a year a go a guy was toutiung his 51% figure as a mandate fromt he people. I guess it's all a matter of how you take 51% and interpret it isn't it?
#38 & beyond - MA you mis read what I said, that was from an article regarding the Iran situation. And if you agree that we need to step away from the rhetoric and actually talk then you will end up on the beating end or IRI's anger. But I know you disagree and do not believe in negotiation, you only believe in the bullying blow it up diplomacy as practiced by your master.
My class was international marketing and in business you need to get along and actually negotiate to do business (please exclude Wal-Mart though as they do nto believe in win-win situations). If you treat your customers and partners as adversaries then you are truely a fucked up business person. Sun Tzu figured it out 2000+ years ago that you always leave your opponant an out and an opportunity to claim victory even when everything is on your terms. Leaving them no opportunity to maneuver only makes them want to fight with more reckless abandon to save themselves. Taht was 2000+ years ago, and we have that much more history to back up his assertions, yet our current leadership can not see any further back than 9/11, except of course when there is an opportunity to blame something on Clinton.
I'll bet way back when the whole Iranian hostage situation hit you were majorly conflicted. Does the US continue to support Iran, and the shah, Our allies of 30+ years, even though the shah was a major human rights abuser on par or worse than Sadaam (I'll bet you say yes support him). Then once his government collapsed do we take him in as a refugee for treatment like we did? Or do we abandon our former allie? Then once the hostages get taken what do we do? Your way is to blame the current president and not take into account the previous history with Iran. Of course then when Reagan got in office we know the hostages were released in exchange for weapons spare parts which congress had dissallowed (i.e. we broke the law in a major way) and we encouraged Sadaam to fight with iran and had a market for business on both sides of the fence. You see Iran Contra actually started in 1980, it's just we did nto add the contra portion until later. But your way, whatever it is works best, don't bnegotiate, threaten and bully.
BTW every single one of my instructors save one, professed that they were conservative in values. Shoudl I have filed a complaint with the mind police who want to shut down college campuses across the country?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:49 pm#53 Palestine/Israel? That's a good one! Israel is an artificially created by the UK and the USA state. USA supports whole-heartedly Israel against a LOT of UN rulings against Israel. The USA has messed in the politics of EVERY country in the Middle East. And now the UN is guilty of the situation there? Stop smoking crack.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:00 pmIn order to turn these numbers around, Rove will need to call his buddy Osama bin Laden for another attack and blame it all on Tehran.
Ridiculous and duplicitous... but those qualities describe Karl Rove 100%.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:31 pmI think theres nothing the matter with Iran having nuclear weapons, If America can have them and bully the world then why should not every country have them as a detterant to stop bullies....... Either we all have them or nobody can have them which I think is the best
read this about Iran and Bushes battle plans http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archives/2006/02/battle_plans_fo_1.html#more
And if you really want war read this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/13/wiran13.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/02/13/ixworld.html
And if you do start war Its goodbye planet earth
get that American president Bush Impeached he really is an embarasment to America in the eyes of the world
February 14th, 2006 at 3:33 pmThese poll results do not surprise me. The Bush Administration spent $1.4 billion in taxpayer dollars on PR over the past two-and-a-half years, according to a Government Accountability Office report.
Much of the PR was in the form of "news reports," used to manipulate the American mind. I would assume that much of the PR was in the form of DISINFORMATION as well. The Bush Administration does not like the UN (for obvious reasons.) So, I am sure that $millions were spent to bash the reputation of the UN.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:48 pmTotal 155 MP now to back Impeaching Tony Blair we need 200 to get this through.........were gonna get there how are you Americans doing ?????
http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=29437&SESSION=875
Americans read this http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/02/14/impeach_yes_but.php
February 14th, 2006 at 4:03 pmThis country needs a new party, one that will unite all libertarians, greens, and independents. Then we will be in the majority. We must do this before it is too late..for starters vote out most current congressmen come mid-term elections..They must be committed to ending all bush policies and a massive jailing of the thousands of corrupt power elites..Law enforcement must do it's job..
February 14th, 2006 at 5:06 pmI most certainly agree that the US has created the crisis in Iran and has been instrumental in creating the present repressive fundamentalist atmosphere which exists today. We installed the Shah, creating a decade of a repressive police state. The reaction was the Islamic Revolution. Of course their anger was directed against the "meddling" CIA. How dense can you be not to see that?
February 14th, 2006 at 5:50 pmAfter 2 decades, Iran was beginning to loosen up as a society and what happens? We stick our noses and opinions into their electoral processs and the directt result is a nationalistic knee jerk reaction to elect the more conservative candidate.
The US has created the atmosphere of crisis that has scuttled any attempt for rational diplomacy to succeed. Now the admisitration is trying to coherce Europe to participate in its program against Iran.
I think that the hysteria that was generated in the last few months is beginning to diissapate. The reality is beginning to appear. Iran is a formidable opponent. The toy army that I see referred to in Conservative blogs is a myth. The Iranian people are definitely not going to welcome Liberators with flowers and songs!
America has only succeeded in setting the Islamic world aflame. It is obvioust that the "Cartoon Riots" are about much more than boycotting Danish Bacon!
I really don't think that Russia has any wish to let the US start a conflict that could involve nuclear materials of any kind on its doorstep. I also think that the real wisdom is the Chinese who seem to be outside of this, asking for tolerance and if that fails, well, let the jerks desttroy each other and then pick up the pieces.
I truly believe that this could have been resolved easily if the UN had been allowed to stick to its inspections.
I wish that more Americans would wake up and see that this self righteous, total victory or the rapture( whichever comes first) administration has destroyed the Republic
For a view into Iran and to see that they are rational human beings, just like us(most of us) try to find the SAHAR 2 satellite television broadcasts. They are the Iranian English language station and you will be surprised to see the content. A real window into their culture.
IRAN OIL BOURSE IS THE REASON, NOT IRAN'S WMD!!!
For all of you people who think we attacked Iraq because we thought Saddam has WMD, I feel bad for you guys. Saddam was starting/had started an OIL BOURSE (like a stock market for oil [best explanation I can give]) in which he was going to sell oil in exchange for EUROS and not DOLLARS!!! We didn't like his plan, because it would bring down the value of US DOLLAR in the world, so we attacked him. Now Iran is going to start it's OIL BOURSE on March 6th, and guess what, they're going to trade (sell) their oil in EUROS and not DOLLARS!!! Deja Vu? I'll let you decide!
In politics, whenever you hear something, that's the cover up story, what you don't hear is what's really happening. I hope you guys can research about this and spread the word around. Yeah, Iran might be after WMD, but that'd be of %5 importance to US because there's no way in hell any of their missiles can travel to US! The OIL BOURSE probelm is the other %95.
I must say that not only I dislike Bush and his administration, but I'm also very disappointed at the right-wingers that don't want to hold their own idiots responsible for their wrongdoings and the crimes they committ, and they just follow the "talking points" like the sheep they are!
February 14th, 2006 at 6:42 pm#63, hey Genius, Clif is already on the case (see #29).
February 14th, 2006 at 6:52 pmOops, sorry if I bored you guys with the duplicate information. I was too eager to post my info that I didn't get to reading post #29. Thanks for pointing it out to me Terry.
February 14th, 2006 at 7:02 pm#51 - "MA did you pay your own tuition? Or did you sponge off pop?"
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — February 14, 2006 @ 2:14 pm
352 - "Or did she use pell grants, student loans?"
Comment by Clif — February 14, 2006 @ 2:22 pm
******Dear Turtle & Clif - No, I didn't "sponge off pop" - he was dead. I earned a scholastic scholarship and worked summers and nights to pay for books, room, board, the payments on my Volkswagon Bug and the gas to keep it running. Law school was paid for by the Navy and paid back through service. All of my siblings were able to earn scholastic or athletic scholarships - Mom expected no less. Different parents have different expectations, I suppose....
I don't have a problem with student loans....I just expect them to be repaid before plunking down the $$$ for the BMW or the Prius.
February 14th, 2006 at 7:55 pmI wouldn't hire Bush or Cheney to paint my friggin' garage - let alone run my country. These lame and incompetent idiots are the WORST administration in American history - and its only going to get worse.
February 14th, 2006 at 9:32 pmPOLL: Bush still has higher favorability rating than Hillary's 37%. Republicans have nothing to fear in 2008. Progressive Liberals will give us the election. Thanks in advance.
February 15th, 2006 at 2:31 amthread headline,
POLL: Americans Trust United Nations More Than Bush On Iran
False. With an error factor of +/-3 pts it's a statistical tie. Americans trust Bush as much as UN.
February 15th, 2006 at 2:38 amI do NOT trust President George W. Bush one bit, but nor do I trust the UN under Kofi Annan who seems to be a stooge for Bush! As for Iranians > they are ZERO threat to America
February 15th, 2006 at 2:57 amand only a minor nuisance to Israel, so attacking them is criminal!
The U.N. has had more that a year to do ANYTHING regarding Iran’s nuclear program since the E.U. began talks with Iran…which failed BTW. The U.N. is inpotent when it comes to solving an international crisis. Same thing happened in Bosnia.
Comment by Tracy #14
Trashy,
Unlike witless, treasonous, right wing hypocrites and Bush/Cheneyfarteaters like yourself and your inbred brood...
...the UN has to take into consideration Iran's sovereignty, the hypocrisy regarding Israel's nukes, heavy handed pro-Israeli American support, and Russo-Sino-Iranian-Syrian-Latin American relations...
...there are forces at work here (against American-Israeli and European hegemony) that you don't have the capacity to see or understand...
...because of the positioning of your head up Bushiva and L'il Dick's a*ses alternately...
Iran WILL have nukes, no doubt...
...there's NOTHING your gods Bushiva and L'il Dick can do to stop the process...
...don't believe me?
...ask L'il Kim...
...it's NO ACCIDENT that you haven't heard his name mentioned in a while...
February 15th, 2006 at 12:25 pm#43 MA your panties are twisted, valentines day has nothing to do with it, the pathetic failures of Bushco and dead eye dicks latest military fiasco provide the twist.
Comment by Clif #49
Clif,
Great post in response to Trashy at #29...
...that's why Puny Hermaphrodite got "the runs"...
February 15th, 2006 at 1:00 pm"They have now crossed a point where they are in open defiance of the international community," Rice said.
Iran seems not to be trusted ey, too bad it's exactly the same for the US under the presidency of Bushwacka. 'Defiance of the international community' are words that Dr. (!) Rice should keep out of her three-tongued mouth. First take a look at yourself, than maybe you can say something bad about an other nation. Doctors have realy small brains these days...probably a side effect of this administration.
February 16th, 2006 at 6:37 am#29
Sound like you are saying the the Iranians are holding all the cards and the real plan is to blackmail the U.S., but you failed to mention that they have been planning to do this Euro conversion since 2004.
BTW Iran won't even be able to consider it's move to the Euro untill it starts cooperating with the IAEA and the U.N. Security Council.
February 16th, 2006 at 6:38 pm