Man Cheney shot suffers heart attack.
By on Feb 14th, 2006 at 1:35 pm
Man Cheney shot suffers heart attack.
Breaking from MSNBC: “Man Cheney shot had minor heart attack, birdshot lodged in heart.” More from CBS: “Texas hospital officials say birdshot from the vice-president’s shot provoked a ‘minor heart attack’ in the vp’s hunting companion.”
UPDATE: AP report.
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The heart attack was actually brought on by his mad dash for his hair piece which blew in the line of fire of Cheney’s weapon.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:38 pmSo what happens if Harry dies due to complications of the gunshot wounds, especially so if it is true as reported that there is birdshot lodged in his heart?
February 14th, 2006 at 1:42 pmWhat’s a little heart tissue amongnst friends? Did Dick volunteer to be a donor should he need a new one – bad idea, with Cheney’s ticker, the guy whould have to spend the rest of his days in a cardiac unit.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:43 pmWait, I thought that the man only suffered a superficial flesh wound. Wasn’t that the word from the White House? A slight peppering, not uncommon? How did all of this get to birdshot lodging in a man’s heart?
February 14th, 2006 at 1:44 pmany links?
February 14th, 2006 at 1:45 pmSo it was the birdshot, not being shot at and sprayed with pellets from a bloody shotgun that caused the heart attack.
Whatever.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:45 pmThey’ve said Cheney has been cleared of the incident. However, if the man dies as a result of his injuries, is this negligent homicide? Manslaughter? Any lawyers know?
#3–Apparently “peppering” means buckshot traveling several inches through one’s flesh and muscle. Who’da known?
February 14th, 2006 at 1:46 pmWhen will Condi issue a statement saying that “No one could have predicted that someone could be hurt by being shot with birdseed”.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:46 pmI wonder how this mans family feels about the White House trying to spin this as humorous? Not only has he been shot and physically scarred for life, now he has had a heart attack. Id be willing to bet the WH wants the media NO where near the family lest we hear how unfunny it is.
February 14th, 2006 at 1:48 pm78 years old. no muscle mass to stop the bird shot. and all that easy living. it’s natures way of thinning out the weak
February 14th, 2006 at 1:49 pmWhen will Scotty announce hunting classes at the WH?
February 14th, 2006 at 1:50 pmThe 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President
February 14th, 2006 at 1:50 pmDick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had a “minor heart attack,” a hospital official said Tuesday.
So much for “peppering.”
How about the statement “that the shots bearly broke the skin”? What did they expect? Perhap they feel shot-gun wounds peel away the skin!
Bearly broke the skin! What nosense the spin masters spin.
What assholes!
February 14th, 2006 at 1:51 pmBoy, shotgunning an old man in the heart, what a great joke. Almost as funny as Bush joking about WMD’s while 2,200 American troops get blown to bits by IEDs and and sniped to death.
Maybe Bush and the Whitehouse should submit some Holocaust jokes to the Iranian contest.
-GSD
February 14th, 2006 at 1:52 pmEven more pathetic is to see medical professionals reduced to shilling ans spinning and lying for Bush and Cheney.
“His heart is in great shape”. You would think they were talking about a 20 year old college athlete with a sprained ankle and not a 78 year old man with a shotgun wound to the heart.
Even the medical profession is now just a shameless spin organ.
The morally bankrupt express coming to a train station near you. Captain George W. Bush at the helm.
-GSD
February 14th, 2006 at 1:55 pmI understand he had it after he saw an image of that vampire hovering above his bed….
February 14th, 2006 at 1:55 pmCould be that Harry is just ‘thin-skinned’ or wears his ‘heart on his sleeve’…
February 14th, 2006 at 1:55 pmCheney better start claiming he heard someone yell “Pull!”
February 14th, 2006 at 2:02 pmNow I know why his Secret Service detail wears body armor.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:04 pmresponding to unflattering nicknames,the white house has requested that the veep should no longer be referred to as either Darth Vader or Dead Eye Dick, but the more friendly and uplifting Dr. Pepper…wouldn’t ya want to be a pepper too ))
February 14th, 2006 at 2:06 pmjust a slight spray of metal pellets into some vital organs, not uncommon.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:08 pmObviously, those birds were Al Queda operatives….good shot Dr. Evil…..
February 14th, 2006 at 2:11 pmdoctors decided to leave several birdshot pellets lodged in his skin rather than try to remove them.
WTF?? Lodged in his skin? If so, they could pick them out with tweezers. Methinks those pellets were lodged deeper than skin.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:12 pmi wonder if tweedy will have another talking head (yesterday ex. rep. simpson) on talking about what a great shot and hunter cheney is
February 14th, 2006 at 2:14 pmTime simply isn’t a friend of bush/cheney. Their basic operating procedure is to lie, lie, lie. They continue to think the world isn’t on to them…thus they continue to lie. This incident has and will continue to show bush/cheney’s failure to possess the most basic human values of honesty, respect for truth, and the character to admit failings or wrong doing. “Honesty is the best policy” has never been practiced by these two dishonest and self-serving clowns.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:15 pmMe thinks Karl Rove is fuming about the heart attack, couldn’t he just lay there and remain silent and not mess up the news story?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:15 pm#23 In fact, doesn’t matter if the wound were more or less deeper. If only a pellet reaches the blood vessels, the blood flow would bring any strange object, specially if thiny, to the hearth or any place in the body. Is as thrombosis works. If (bad) luck would have driven the pellet to the brain, and then, bye, bye.
A heart attack can come too due to the shock of blood losing, age, etc.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:17 pmMan Cheney shot suffers heart attack
Looks like ‘ol dick may not have to arrange a follow-up ‘accident’ afterall.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:20 pmonly one way you can be held accountible in the bush world. and thats if they can prove cheney was getting a bj from the old man and the shotgun slip out of his hand, as he grabed the old mans head
February 14th, 2006 at 2:20 pm#27 My point is, why would they leave pellets lodged in his skin? If you were sprayed by shotgun pellets, would you WANT pellets to be left lodged in your skin the rest of your life? And what would be difficult about removing them? Medically, why wouldn’t you remove them?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:23 pm#30 A pellet lodged under the skin does not drill to the heart, it mush have been close in the first place.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:26 pm#30 Well, really isn’t so strange. Some times, bullets can’t be removed for being too near of dangerous zones, and “travel” along the body with the years. Or fishing hooks accidentally stuck under the skin do travel too. Or shrapnel. And if a pellet reached the blood vessel before the doctor extracted them, he will have go unnoticed until the heart attack.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:29 pmHere’s the link concerning the heart attack:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060214/ap_on_re_us/cheney_whittington;_ylt=AvtdXkxhY4xqHA0GDKxjn7qs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ–
February 14th, 2006 at 2:29 pmI feel bad for Whittington a bit. He’s being played and now this.
All these attempts to spin this as “just a bit of peppering” and “happens all the time”, “it’s only a flesh wound” crap has to stop. Dead-eyed Dick shot the man in the face with a shotgun. Not a freakin nerf dart. The fat loser doesn’t know the meaning of accountability.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:29 pmThe New Whitehouse themesong, featuring Deadeye Dick Cheney on colostomy bagpipes and George W. Bush on the air guitar with the Whitehouse seal on it. Backup singers are the two single women who were out in the fields with Deadeye Dick Cheney and his 78 year old shotgun victim.
Shotgun BluesEvery night I go to sleep
The blues fall down like rain
Every night I go to sleep
The blues fall down like rain
Taking pills, cheap whiskey
Just to try to ease the pain
Well it’s hard to gamble
When you lose every bet
Hard to save money
When you’re twenty years in debt
The blues is falling
Falling down on me like rain
I’m gonna take a shotgun now people
And disconnect my brain
Matt ‘Guitar’ Murphy!
I made some mistakes
Had some bad breaks
Now my mind don’t work
And my whole body aches
The blues is falling
Falling down on me like rain
My life is like water
Just swirling down the drain
Well I tried standin’ up
February 14th, 2006 at 2:30 pmI keep on falling down
Tried standing up
Keep on fallin’ down
Everywhere I go, blues is all around.
Even if the guy doesn’t die, cheney should still be charged with reckless endangerment– Bird shot in the heart is pretty serious
February 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmthe pellet/pellets were lodged in his heart muscle, thus causing an inflammation of the heart muscle, causing it to “flutter” and release enzymes found after “classical” heart attacks…the “fear” is the pellet/pellets will migrate from the heart muscle into the heart chamber and than be pumped out of the heart causing artrial blockage and nasty side effects
February 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmwomen,guns & booze what white breads love to do. drug store cowboy’s, “hud cheney” what a bunch of rich fools.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:32 pmThat picture of Cheney getting a gun from the NRA can go right next to Rumsfeld shaking Hussein’s hand in the Bush Presidential Library.
If the poor man unfortunately dies, we will probably never hear another Teddy Kennedy remark again – evah.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:32 pm…and on Valentine’s day too, such a tragic time to get a broken heart…
February 14th, 2006 at 2:33 pm#31 I’m not talking about the pellet lodged in his heart. I’m talking about the other pellets lodged IN his skin (it was not reported UNDER his skin). If they are lodged in his skin, they are likely visible or very close to the surface of the entry wounds–how thick is skin? Why would you leave them lodged there?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:33 pmLast evening on Scarborough Country, Tucker Carlson seemed to think this was a huge riot, funny as hell. I have emailed his show and suggest others do as well. I am sick of no one ever being held accountable for what they do or say.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:35 pm“…and on Valentine’s day too, such a tragic time to get a broken heart…”
Shot through the heart
February 14th, 2006 at 2:36 pmAnd you’re to blame honey
You give love a bad name
all reports are this guy will never be the same… I’m thinking he’s going to be getting back all that money he raised for the GOP in a settlement in which no wrongdoing is admitted, nor the financial terms disclosed…
February 14th, 2006 at 2:36 pm#39 yes I’ve already order my “more people have been shot in the face by Dick Cheney than have died in nuclear reactor accidents”
February 14th, 2006 at 2:38 pm#41 About 2-3 mm thick. So the difference of a pellet in or under the skin isn’t very differentiable. And blood vessels can go near the surface: think of the wrists, as an example.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:40 pm#41 let it go/ you leave them ther because it’s better than a tatoo. and if you understood the west & cowboys it’s all about the pain and the scars. why do think they ride bulls for?/ not $$$ very little $$$ in bull rideing their after the scars and pain.
February 14th, 2006 at 2:40 pmHOW MUCH DO YOU THINK HIS HOSPITAL BILLS WILL BE?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:41 pm#48 No idea, but be sure of this: they will be payed by, yes, the taxpayer…
February 14th, 2006 at 2:42 pmReally does anyone knows what would happen if this man dies? From cheney’s gun blast? if anyone else had pulled that trigger he/she would be settin’ in jail in Texasssss
February 14th, 2006 at 2:44 pm#50 Jail? Well Texas is FOR death penalty, isn’t?
February 14th, 2006 at 2:45 pm#46 Okay, you say skin is 2-3 mm thick (another source agrees, 0.5 mm (eyelid) – 4 mm (sole)). Birdshot pellets are 2-5 mm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdshot#Birdshot). I still say, why leave them there? You could use suction to pull those things out without having to dig around. You are probably right, though. It’s probably inaccurate language on the reporter’s part and the docs probably don’t want to risk the pellets getting into a blood vessel. Still…
February 14th, 2006 at 2:54 pm#52 Yes, exact facts after a 24-hour lapse get… fuzzy.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:02 pmIf Whittington died, would Cheney face criminal charges of involuntary manslaughter?
February 14th, 2006 at 3:04 pm#54 Only if Cheney is impeached, a sitting pres/vp must be impeached to have charges filed against them.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:09 pmMike Leggett , the outdoors writer for the Austin American-Statesman, writes: “You shot a guy. At least stay in town until he’s out of the hospital.
“You shot a guy. Don’t blame the sun or the wind or the rotation of the Earth. And for goodness’ sake, don’t blame Harry Whittington.
“He’s the guy you shot, and unless he pulled the trigger himself, it wasn’t his fault. Unless he was invisible, it wasn’t his fault. And it wasn’t his fault that he didn’t ‘announce his presence,’ either. He was supposedly 30 yards behind you. His only fault was being a human being standing on two legs. . . .
“Stand up. Take responsibility. Be a man. You shot a guy.”
February 14th, 2006 at 3:10 pmFor all interested parties, I had a friend in high school who was shot through a window with a shot gun. They left the pellets lodged in his skin. They would come out on their own like a zit with metal in it.
Great for partys. “Wanna see something gross.” *squeeze* pop tink.
So, the doctors leaving the pellets in his skin is no big deal.
The fact that one traveled all the way to his heart IS big news. It means that Whittington was a hell of a lot closer than 30 yards.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:19 pmTex. Penal Code § 19.04 Manslaughter
(a) A person commits an offense if he recklessly causes the death of an individual.
(b) An offense under this section is a felony of the second degree.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:19 pmI’d put something else on that shirt. Many people have died in nuclear reactor accidents. I have a distant relative who did. Also, think Chernobyl.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:27 pmDepends on how Texas views “recklessly” in § 19.04.
Texas Law: “A person acts recklessly when he is aware of but consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the result will occur.” Tex. Penal Code Ann. § 6.03(c)
Of course, I’d say if you shoot someone in the face you’re probably acting reckless. Also, a hunter is arguably “aware” of substantial and unjustifiable risk in shooting at something when he doesn’t know what it is.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:32 pm#52- Surgery is always a risk. Much more so for a man of his age. So if the pellets posed no threat, and otherwise did not bother him, it would be safer for him to leave them alone. And it would be funny, when he tried to go through a Metal Detector, to hear his explanation. I hope he is alright, poor man.
February 14th, 2006 at 3:32 pm‘Cheney’s hunting companion suffered a mild heart attack resulting from an unfortunate accident, and was in serious condition following a small heart attack resulting from the injury’
sounds so much better than
‘Cheney blasted an old man in the chest with a shotgun and skipped town’
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