Chertoff On Outsourcing Operations of 6 U.S. Ports To UAE: ‘I Can’t Get Into It’
Chertoff On Outsourcing Operations of 6 U.S. Ports To UAE: ‘I Can’t Get Into It’
Today on CNN’s Late Edition, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff refused to explain why the administration has turned over control of operations at six of the nation’s largest ports to a company owned by the United Arab Emirates, a country with dubious ties to international terrorism:
The discussions are classified. I can’t get into the specifics here…As far as my agency is concerned, port security really rests principally with the Coast Guard and Customs and Border Protection.
In other words, don’t worry about it, the Coast Gaurd has it covered. Kim Petersen, president of the largest maritime security consulting company in the United States, SeaSecure, disagrees:
Port security is a big problem, Petersen said, because the Coast Guard does not have enough resources for the waters close to ports.
“It doesn’t have either the people or the necessary physical resources to provide the in-water patrols that are so desperately needed,” he said.
Sounds like Chertoff has the whole situation under control.
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This ghoulish fiend needs to be fired - yesterday!
February 19th, 2006 at 12:47 pmSounds like Chertoff was out of the loop on making this decision. Trying to pass the buck? WTF?
There’s a story here. If we only had some journalists in this country.
February 19th, 2006 at 12:49 pmIt is really quite simple, we haven’t been attacked on our soil recently and Bush is in trouble politically. We need another spectacular attack to justify more restrictions on individual liberties and perhaps even declare martial law around the time of the November elections.
February 19th, 2006 at 12:52 pmThere’s Homeland Security again, making America safer.
February 19th, 2006 at 12:56 pmAfter the reeming Chertoff just got regarding th Katrina response, you would think he would denounce this port insecurity plan by the White House.
But then I think that the lazy response to Katrina was intentional to turn Lousiana from a blue state into a red state.
February 19th, 2006 at 12:58 pmChertoff is a big liar like Cheney, so do NOT believe a word he says about anything! The coast guard patrols our coastlines but they are unable to secure port facilities!
February 19th, 2006 at 1:02 pmOne of the recommendations of the 9/11 report is that our ports need security personnel beefed up or troops guarding the facilities, so for Bush to sell off the port concessions is rediculous, and proves that is “War on Terrorism” is 100% phony! Our airports have NO troops guarding them, nor are our borders defended by troops!
February 19th, 2006 at 1:06 pmThe cadaverous Chertoff has admitted that there are secret arrangements made between the Dubai company and our ports.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:07 pmHow many more secret agreements are the public going to allow?
Everything they do is “classified” secretive, unable to be made known to the public, “reasons of security” bullsh–.
They are our PUBLIC SERVANTS for crissake — we pay their salaries. We recognize some things must be held privately for security reasons, but they put everything under that umbrella — they are dangerous, fascists.
DHS (Thru the Coast Guard) will still be responsible for port security. The ability or inability of DHS to protect these 6 ports shouldn’t be any different under DPw than under the P&O. Why are those topics so confidential that they can’t be discussed.
As an aside, I think you meant to say that the UAE has ties to terrorism,not that the ties are dubious. They may in fact be merely inferences based on the items you mention but I don’t think you meant to claim the ties are dubious.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:08 pmNow that wheels are in motion for our next “attack”, get in on the latest pool: Guess the exact date and location and win a free ern in which to store your ashes!
February 19th, 2006 at 1:08 pmOops, urn.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:12 pmI think LA is a red state, but has several large blue pockets, including NO. I have no doubt that the Reps want NO for their own to turn it into some kind of “dollywood” or “las vegas” for all the rich reps to make their gazillion dollars.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:13 pmI think the port of LA was one that is being sold to Dubai.
Chertoff claims everything is classified > just means WE the American citizenry are NOT supposed to know anything about the port operations being sold off, nor are we to know that the payments to buy the port concessions are being funneled into Cheney’s Swiss bank accounts! So is that why Dick was with the Swiss Miss Ambassador in Texas? Harry Whittington must of objected, so he got blasted?
February 19th, 2006 at 1:17 pmDid anybody think about the fact that beefing up port security could be usede to create jobs for Americans. Instead once again, jobs are being outsourced, so that profits are outsourced. Another way to remove money from our pool and give it to somebody else.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:18 pmthis is the repubs way of saying “we are safer today than we were before.”
February 19th, 2006 at 1:19 pmExecutive Priviledge, National Security, Classified, Blah blah blah.
These people realy feel they are above accountability to the people who elect them.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:20 pmthis is a clear answer to anyones question of whether bushy was behind 9/11. the very people he used to scare americans, stupid ones, he is having guarding our ports. keep the nazi tactics up it’s working the gullable christians they believe anything you tell em’.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:22 pmOutsourcing the security of our ports is a pre9/11 mentality.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:22 pmi am fricken outraged about all of this. i guess my service, now a vet and all the other gi’s service was in vain. i start letting my fellow soldiers and vets know.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:24 pmChertoff is guilty of negligent homocide and at a minimum should be out of a job.
What a shameless piece of garbage.
These incompetent Bush cronies deserve extermination.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:26 pmhow can folks be so stupid about bushco and 9/11? when it first happened folks outta known. what is wrong with folks?
February 19th, 2006 at 1:28 pmjust don’t get it.
and then want to cut MY vet benefits while these peckerwoods get green off of my blood. sorry bastards. sorry folks had to go there.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:30 pm1) Two of the hijackers were UAE.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:33 pm2) Who runs the operation will have a huge
affect on security regardless of who is
nominally of “actual security”, i.e. Coast Guard.
3) Things involving the security of the country
sould not be outsourced to anyone. American security
is the job of America, not some other entity especially
the UAE (see “1)” just above).
4) Why don’t we just outsource the U.S. Army to
Pakistan? Because some things should never go to
the lowest bidder regardless.
5) This is likely just another payoff that helps
Carlisle, Haliburton or some other rich BushCo
supporter. That appears to be the only thing that
actually drives this administration.
To this day, I still get amazed, by the sheer incompetence of the Bush Admistration.
I want two questions answered.
1. Who is the MENSA graduate that came up with this policy?
2. How is this policy, in any way, shape, or form, in Americas best interest?
February 19th, 2006 at 1:34 pmakadad, bushs response to you is: huh?, um, um, huh. you know that is a good question. ask in 2009 and you might get the truth.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:37 pmDont hire Americans! Says Bush
next he will Hire Illegal Aliens to guard the borders
February 19th, 2006 at 1:38 pmYeah, and if it were a Dem, the thugs and the press would be screaming loud and long. But you know, its post 911 and, well you know.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:41 pmAj yep the Mexican army already guards the border > lol. They let 2 million Mexicans cross it yearly and drug smugglers too! Terrorists just have to dress up as wetbacks and they can cross too!
If I was president the border would be fenced and guarded by American troops, so nobody would cross it and drug traffickers would be gunned down! Border crossing checkpoints would be fully secured and only allow workers with documentation to cross with a green card!
February 19th, 2006 at 1:45 pmHow can Cheroff say this is classified. He is working for us and we as American have a right to know. Why would they sell this to a foreign Company UAE? This guy couldn’t take care of the Katrina respond in New Orleans last year, how do expect Homeland Securty to protect the USA. He is a total jerk.
I think congress is trying to block this sell. Let’s hope this works.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:47 pmthe very people who keep claiming, since 911 blah, blah, crap, should be called on this by the dems, saying for those who cry 911 every other sentence doesn’t this seem a bit hypocritical and any american really can’t be buying this fear mongoring if you accept the very people who attacked you to guard you
February 19th, 2006 at 1:50 pmIsn’t it clear by now that 911 and WOT is simply
a political ploy for BushCo, AKA Rove?
This administration couldn’t care less about
America’s security. Think about the catch 22:
1) No attack = doing a good job
2) Attack = must rally around BushCo because
we are afraid
Can’t lose with this confidence game, so why bother
February 19th, 2006 at 1:55 pmto care?
Just reward your friends and plan for a soft landing
in the private sector.
excuse yourself, jay randal, #28 - that racist remark was unnecessary and uncalled for.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:55 pm[…] UPDATE: Chertoff was making the rounds on the Sunday talk shows today and when asked about why he outsourced port security to a company based in the UAE (believed to sponsor terrorism), he couldn’t answer, because you know….everything is a big secret. Whenever the administration is asked a tough question, the strategy is to a) ignore the question totally or b) claim they can’t comment because it’s classified. […]
February 19th, 2006 at 1:56 pmI have long argued that the GOP security/terrorism issue must be negated for us to win back either house in November.
This could not have been scripted better for just such an attack upon the issue the GOP will ride in November. However, the leadership is cowering in fear (with a few exceptions). For fu*ks sake, when will they get it that it can not be avoided if we want to be the opposition, let alone if we want power!
February 19th, 2006 at 1:56 pmJay Randal,
Easy on the “wetbacks” talk. As a reisdent of California I have a lot of Mexican friends. Calling them wetbacks is not any different than calling an African-American a “shiprider.” They are both referrences to how the people got into America and neither is pleasent. Lot’s of death involved.
February 19th, 2006 at 1:57 pmThe term “wetback” was coined in Texas to denote those who crossed the Rio Grande river to get into the US! To leave the border wide open and undefended is RACIST, because everybody else has to enter the US bu quotas! I was born in California and I have NO problem with documented Latino laborers being allowed into the US! This nation cannot obsorb 2 million Mexicans or others a year! If you want the border open then you are NO different than Bush himself! Do NOT fall charges of being called racist for wanting secure borders! I am a Democrat but believe in real security for US!
February 19th, 2006 at 2:05 pmMy comments about this are so classified, even I can’t comment on it!….what a cop out, we are in so much danger if we let them do this. Putting the fox IN THE HEN HOUSE!!!…WTF! X 10,000!
February 19th, 2006 at 2:05 pmChertoff just wants this to die out. He thinks he’ll get that by saying it’s classified - which won’t work.
As for the posters here against any company from another country controlling a US port - the prior company was domiciled in the UK (P&O).
The other bidder, that DPW beat, was an arm of Temasek. Temasek is the investment arm of the Government of Singapore. Singapore is about the same in regards to human rights. Except they have to problems stringing up western drug users ’smuggling’ small amonts of drugs in - witness the recent Australian execution by hanging. Dubai, which is where DPW is domiciled, just executes the locals. Westerners get long long prison sentences.
The US ports were not the ‘crown jewel’ of the deal, although they are attractive. P&O has worldwide operations.
The slightly amusing thing here is the bidding war coverage, by the Financial Times, made no mention of the US ports. They weren’t ‘important’.
As for the suggestion that DPW would somehow be able to lower the effectiveness of security - that’s basically garbage. DHS and the Coast Guard make you clean up your act.
Again, DPW’s main board, in Dubai, has eight non-UAE citizens. 5 of them are westerners, 3 are from India. The UAE citizen is a member of the royal family and watches over the investment.
For political reasons the US Port manager for DPW will be an American. So would all the staff - they aren’t bringing in more than a handful of managers because they are taking on all the former P&O employees - i.e. the ‘white collar’ ones.
They also aren’t importing longshoremen, who really have the ability to screw up security.
Dubai should be given some credit for being the most progressive emirate in the Middle East and for being very, very open to Westerners (the majority of Dubai residents are foreigners now).
As for Dubai’s reasons for going into port operations - it’s pretty simple. They have almost no oil left. Therefore they have been hording oil revenues and investing them.
DPW also likely overpaid:)
The main deal is that the board has 1 UAE citizen, the rest have nothing to do with the UAE. DPW has a habit of appointing managers who are, say, Indian to run Indian ports. They are fairly politically sensitive.
I would like a response on what P&O shareholders should have been forced to do. Since DPW’s bid is no good, are they to be forced to accept a lesser bid from Singapore, which is fairly repressive itself (and foreign)? Or if no foreign companies can own P&O (which is foreign) should they be ’stuck’ with some bidder off perhaps 30 percent less?
I imagine the answer to those questions is yes here. Which is really neither here nor there. There are choices to be made.
I see the post has changed to reflect the fact that DPW will operate the port, not own it. They get to take over a concession to operate ports who are owned by the port authorities of the respective cities. Those concessions can be voided for breach of contract.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:05 pmThis sale is not CLASSIFIED!
Its a PUBLIC SALE!
The interesting thing is the UAE just purchased a large amount of Security Buoys from an American firm called WHISPERWAVE.
Now they are getting operational control of our nations harbors after purchasing security buoys?
February 19th, 2006 at 2:14 pmOh and as to the fact the 2 of the 9/11 terrorists were UAE citizens (I have no clue if they are from Abu Dhabi, Dubai, or else where in one other emirates) that’s really rather pointless. The fact that you can practice your own religion in Dubai, other than Islam, is fairly open.
The comparison I want to make here is that the 4 suicide bombers of the London Underground and a bus were UK citizens. The 4 others than failed in a bid a week or so later were all BORN in the UK. The shoe bomber was from the UK.
So the UK has bad people too. Does that mean that if a country has bad people who, say, send money to terrorist s or blow themselves up that the entire country should be viewed as ‘bad’?
My only real point is that ‘we’ tend to feel outraged, rightly, when individual muslims have their rights violated. But when it comes to all muslims it seems that we’re not a whole lot better than the wingnuts.
All the European countries have sizeable muslim populations.
If all other countries have muslims and some of those muslims are ‘bad’ should that country be barred from doing any sort of ’sensitive’ work in the US?
Also, DPW is investing 6.8 billion in P&O. They have some investments to make to physical stuff that’s going to cost another 3 billion or so. Alot of it is outside the US, some inside. New Orleans needs to get some work - other US ports need congestion easing measures.
I still fail to see how a couple UAE citizens in the US is god awful.
Do you think there are any very religious muslims who also already work at US ports? It really is the longshoremen that are the ones that can screw around with security as they handle all the containers.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:14 pmJust like the rest, Chertoff is another one who is too scared to do his job, for fear of the wrath of Bush and Cheney.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:16 pmChertoff can say it is classified because the panel that reviews these things bases its decisions on classified materials.
Of course the real reason is that the panel also considers political relations with that country to a large degree. Like, the US wants to reward Dubai for being a good US ally in a miserable area.
The secrecy is all rather stupid but it does give the impression that there’s alot more than security being analyzed.
It is the CIA, after all, that gets to DECIDE what CONGRESS SEES. So, they can selectively release documents to the panel to get a bid approved.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:19 pmNo they shouldn’t, but there should be a little more questioning than “ok”
February 19th, 2006 at 2:19 pmJames,
You are not taking into consideration the non-security related issue:
February 19th, 2006 at 2:21 pm#41,
Point taken on the UAE, but I won’t give on
February 19th, 2006 at 2:23 pmthe potential risk for foreign control of our
ports.
UAE makes it a better PR example, maybe unfairly
as you suggest, but in the end when you lose control,
you can no longer ensure security.
Maybe that is okay for customer call centers or
IT help, but for American security - I don’t think
so.
question for James:
February 19th, 2006 at 2:23 pmwho are the westerners on DPW board? and i just want to make sure Im getting your post correct, are you saying that the operations of these 6 ports was previously owned by P&O, and since DPW just purchased P&O, they are now purchasing these operations as well?
Spudge_Boy we are both against Bush and his criminal administration! I used the term “wetback” as an example only! No you do not call Blacks in Georgia “Negros” or any other slang of that, but remember that Harry Belefonte called Powell and Rice “House Negroes” as a term to put them in their place > Harry is Black and can do that!
I am a 4th generation Californian and lived in CA till I was almost 30 > again I repeat documented Latino laborers are OK in US and those who have lived here for years should be given citizenship! The border must be secured and then a quota set for how many Mexicans can enter US on yearly basis! If our government fails to do that then our economy will collapse and all of us will be out of work!
Sorry if you think I used the term “w—–k” in a bad way!
February 19th, 2006 at 2:25 pmAs far as my agency is concerned, port security really rests principally with the Coast Guard and Customs and Border Protection, and then they will be funded at the approiate level, just like FEMA was funded at the approiate level in order to respond to disasters,…. NOT, … I predict some sort of Cole incident with a cruise ship in the future say Sept- Oct time frame, that will secure the midterm elections and save the Repugs for 2 more years. Give them time to make the tax cuts perminate, and use the “terror” attack to finish gutting FISA, enlarge the patriot act and establish the unitary executive law for bush and his sucessors, these people think that they’ll rule for ever.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:26 pmIt’s all good Jay Randal. I know we are on the same side. I just don’t want us to stoop to the level of I-RIGHT-I.
Illegal imigrants in California is a huge problem that something needs to be done about.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:30 pmJames
You miss the point. The only issue here is whether any foreign owned company should be awarded such a concession. Ports are the front door to the United State’s borders. As such they should be under the sole control of the federal government. This is truer now than ever before, not solely due to terrorism, but also because of economic importance. The flow of goods through U.S ports constitutes 3/4 of GDP, which trumps just about any other national security argument. The Constitution spells out who has sole authority over our international borders, only the federal government.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:32 pmI have NO problem with you correcting me Spudge_Boy, but katy called me a RACIST for wanting a secure border! If she thinks a wide open border is cool, then she has a problem?
February 19th, 2006 at 2:35 pmHmmm. aren’t those blue states along the coasts? Guess we won’t have to worry about voter fraud in the next elections. (Better to fight the terr’ists in blue state than in red states).
February 19th, 2006 at 2:39 pmYou know, a lot of folks lately have been using vitriolic statements against one another. What’s worse, in most cases it is between two progressives. With the exception of IRI (boychild) and a few others, race is not a factor, so quit using “third person” labels.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:41 pmyou don’t know shit about what i think jay randall - don’t put words in my mouth - i did not call you a racist - i said “that racist remark was unnecessary and uncalled for”…and it was.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:46 pmHere is a couple of things I could dig up. http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nspd/nspd41.pdf Also http://www.portsecuritynews.com/
February 19th, 2006 at 2:46 pmClassified?This must mean that the Dept.of Homeland Security needs to raise funds for some other nefarious program,with all the tax cuts and all.As far as I’m concerned the Coast Gaurd was the only entity visable in NO post disaster,we should beef up those boys instead of out sourcing the primary duties of national security to some little wealthy goodbuddy region.This may even be some subsidiary of Halliburton for all we know,hence the classified nature of the deal.Money laundering for the rich and infamous.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:48 pm#51, is right on the money.
The BUSHITES have been spouting for 5 years now how much smarter and better they are at protecting America from terrorists.
Now they are turning over operations of our nations 6 largest shipping ports to the United Arab Emirates?
The same UAE that our own FBI says LAUNDERED THE MONEY FOR THE FILTHY 911 TERRORISTS?
Its a slap in the face to every Americans intelligence, and its a slap in the face of those who died on 911 to bring this terrorist supporting SCUM right into downtown New Yorks harbor.
Even IF it wasn’t a security threat, it’s the most UNAMERICAN thing I’ve ever heard of.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:49 pmand i see “james” is back, in time for the “port sale” thread, no others…a plant to make us feel better about this? very knowledgeable indeed… sorry, i can’t help but be skeptical… once again - who/what are you, james?
February 19th, 2006 at 2:52 pmAlso remember where Sec. Chertoff came from, the third circuit, same as Alito, any wonder why he was chosen for the job he has? http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/chertoff-bio.html
February 19th, 2006 at 2:52 pmMaybe now people will start to actually LISTEN to Michael Moore.
He’s been telling us for years how the BUSHITES are in bed with the terrorsts, and every called him a crackpot.
Now we see the Bush administration selling control of our US ports to the nation responsible for funding the terrorists.
What other questions do we need to ask?
Its time to impeach these guys, arrest them and throw them in prison where they belong.
Bush will look good in orange.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:53 pmWhy are we allowing all these people get away with these unbelievable acts?!? Wasting of American resources and tax payers dollars?!?
February 19th, 2006 at 2:56 pm?????
The headline of this post as well as the previous post on this subject have, sadly, lowered my confidence in Think Progress. Instead of relying unquestionably, as I had been for months, on the objectivity and accuracy of Think Progress’s posts, now I find myself asking, “I wonder if this is another one of those stories that they’ve distrorted to make it seem more sensational than it really is?” Completely aside from the advisability of the transaction in question, the fact is that it pertains to a number of FACILITIES IN THE PORTS mentioned, NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, the OPERATIONS OF THE ENTIRE PORTS. It’s hard to imagine that Think Progress is not well aware of this by now.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:58 pmFly Man
I have always been amazed that the Third Circuit has not been recognized for what it truly is; a nursery for neo-cons constructionists.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:58 pmJames.
This is the United ARAB Emirates. They laundered money for the 911 Hijackers.
Dubai ports made a large procurement of WHISPERWAVE Security Buoys, now they are going to have control of our ports?
Its a slap in the face to every American to hand operations of our Ports to and Arab nation after what happened to us on 911, even if they weren’t terrorist supporters, which they are.
February 19th, 2006 at 2:58 pmfly-man,
Good links.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:00 pmLook Showman, if you expect to put your confidence in anything related to the actions of the government on cruise control try the Captain’s Quarters or redstate.org. No independent thinking required.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:01 pmThis Government continues to run this country on Fear. Why theyre turning the ports over to these guys is beyond me. Just another notch in the Fuck Up Belt for this administration.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:01 pm#63
I got news for you.
This story is perhaps the most important story facing us today.
If you can’t see that, then next time I would dip a smaller ladel from the barrel of Jesus Juice.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:02 pmThis is not the WHOLE story.
Everyone sitting down?
February 19th, 2006 at 3:03 pmU.S. Company Plans $265M Spaceport in UAE
Sat Feb 18, 12:45 AM ET
LOS ANGELES -
A day after Space Adventures announced it was in a venture to develop rocket ships for suborbital flights, the company said Friday it plans to build a $265 million spaceport in the United Arab Emirates.
The commercial spaceport would be based in Ras Al-Khaimah near the southern end of the Persian Gulf, and the UAE government has made an initial investment of $30 million, the Arlington, Va.-based company said in a statement.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:04 pmSo lets see, the UAE will have Operation control of our 6 largest Sea Ports, and they will also have a SPACE PORT along with advanced SPACE technology.
:|
February 19th, 2006 at 3:05 pmThe commercial spaceport would be based in Ras Al-Khaimah near the southern end of the Persian Gulf,
February 19th, 2006 at 3:06 pmGee, I hope none of their rockets accidentally has a hard landing in the US.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:06 pmWorfeus, as the church lady would say HOW CONVENIENT! Who owns the atmosphere any way?
February 19th, 2006 at 3:07 pmAhh, what harm could the terrorists do to us from outer space? I mean, its not like they could spy on us, or hurt us, or obtain our secrets, or interfere with our Space defense systems, or satellites,,,,,right?
February 19th, 2006 at 3:07 pmShowman
This is an issue that needs to be addressed. Port security has been largely ignored; as such most of the public does not know that any part of port operations is under the control of civilian contract let alone foreign owned company contract. The fact that this contract is now with a state owned foreign company only adds to the importance of discussion.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:08 pmThese people are out of their flipping minds. How much money does the Bush family have invested in this Dubai company? That is the only reason that makes any sense for this outsourcing to be permitted.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:09 pmShowman,
I already responded to the same exact question you posed here in another thread.
Washington Post
February 12, 2006
United Arab Emirates Firm May Oversee 6 U.S. Ports
Stop posting the same thing. The people here do not buy that it is just a tiny portion of the ports.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:10 pmCitizen 80203, makes ya kinda wonder who get’s the second picks, IE: Harriet Meires, Bernie Kerik…. OT: Spudge_ I am in Blog Envy. Awesome your own blog! You are now on the bookmarks BAR.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:12 pmJay, Katy did not call you a racist. But she and others are correct in that the term “wetback” is a derogatory term applied to individuals who take the risk of crossing the boarder illegally in an attempt at securing employment and a better life for themselves and their children. You have apologized for using the term. But you misread Katy’s comment. You then infered she wanted wide open borders.
I’m pointing this out, because your posts are generally very good. However, perhaps we can all learn how easy it is to fall into the trap of putting words into someone else’s mouth through inferences. Politicians and “spin artists” are masters at this sort of thing. Let us choose a different path.
As to the borders and illegal immigrants, I teach public school in a farm-labor community. My students are children or grandchildren of farm workers. Some have been here illegally, having crossed the border with their parents. I do not fault the people who cross the boarder in search of employment, I fault the employers who hire them into near slave-labor conditions. I have seen some of the labor camps these people were housed in. Most of us would not enjoy living and working in the conditions those “wetbacks” had to endure.
The quickest way to eliminate the illegal immigration problem is to take away the profit motive from the employers by making it so expensive, via fines and jail time, that the employers will no longer hire illegal immigrants. This option has been available for decades. Why has it not been implemented?
But back to the topic at hand: We are going to give the operation of our ports to the UAE and the details are Classified. We are to accept this without question because President Bush is going to protect our country from any further terrorist attacks. We just need to accept as fact that an Arab company operating American ports poses no threat whatsoever to our national security. We just need to put complete trust and faith into our President to protect us. After all, if He can’t who can?
February 19th, 2006 at 3:17 pmWorfeus
I too was amazed when I read that the other day at Raw Story. The only way a private company can conduct unfettered space operations is in a foreign country. From a launch standpoint, the UAE is a good choice, near the equator, near perfect atmospherics and over the ocean. Aside from that, what better place to hi-jack a civilian space liner and crash it into NYC. It’s not like a 40 ton object traveling at 24,000 miles an hour could do too much damage.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:19 pmfly-man,
Thanks! I have many more blogs I am working on, so keep checking back. Consider it a source to gether facts to post here and elsewhere. I post a lot of links to source materials (transcripts of hearings and speeches) and I like a lot of pictures, as if you didn’t know that from my posts here.
I think people need to put a face to a name. That way things aren’t happening to faceless Congressmen. Even the term Congressmen is faceless. It doesn’t even tell whether the person is in the House or Senate.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:24 pmCitizen80203, Spudge_Boy,
Your responses do not address my point. I am not arguing that this is not an important matter. I am simply saying that that “significant operations” is VASTLY DIFFERENT than total operation of all these ports, which is what the headline of this post says.
I am not an enemy of this site or its point of view. On the contrary, I rely on Think Progress, and for that reason I feel that the integrity of its headlines is extremely important.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:26 pmgoodbye showman, your ‘repeat’ trick does not alter the facts. can you READ?
February 19th, 2006 at 3:27 pmthere you go again with the tongue-in-cheek, faire - “We just need to put complete trust and faith into our President to protect us. After all, if He can’t who can?”
February 19th, 2006 at 3:31 pm;-)
get someone to read you this,showman:
February 19th, 2006 at 3:31 pmhttp://www.cnn.com/ 2006/ LAW/ 02/ 19/ port.security.ap/ index.html
Showman
You wrote: “now I find myself asking, “I wonder if this is another one of those stories that they’ve distrorted to make it seem more sensational than it really is?†“
I wrote: “This is an issue that needs to be addressed. Port security has been largely ignored; as such most of the public does not know that any part of port operations is under the control of civilian contract let alone foreign owned company contract.”
February 19th, 2006 at 3:31 pmShowman, the problem with the left is there are too many people like you downplaying the importance of a major issue.
So let me put it in terms you might understand.
Right now, we are supposed to be hardening our national defenses, because we were attacked by Arabs. Muslim Arabs, but nonetheless, Arabs.
So right now giving an Arab nation a contract to CLEAN THE TOILETS in our AIRPORTS, SEAPORTS or SPACE PORTS would be downright STUPID.
PERIOD.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:34 pmThe UAE is not going to have people operating the cranes, driving the forklifts or sailing the ships. They are taking over the security. Those would be “significant operations.â€
I think definitions 1, 3 & 4 apply here.
sig·nif·i·cant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sg-nf-knt)
adj.
1. Having or expressing a meaning; meaningful.
2. Having or expressing a covert meaning; suggestive: a significant glance. See Synonyms at expressive.
3. Having or likely to have a major effect; important: a significant change in the tax laws.
4.Fairly large in amount or quantity: significant casualties; no significant opposition.
Statistics. Of or relating to observations or occurrences that are too closely correlated to be attributed to chance and therefore indicate a systematic relationship.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:35 pmThis is a HUGE STORY.
THE BIGGEST.
Its bigger than anything I can think of.
It opens a door into our national security defenses for the Arab nations that can bite us on the ass now, or years in the future.
If this sale actually goes through, you can bet there will be a terrorist attack, and it will have something to do with something getting in through our ports.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:37 pmWe KNOW that the UAE just made a huge purchase of American made Security Buoys from a US firm called WHISPERWAVE.
Everyone think BUOYS.
THINK ABOUT THE BUOYS.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:39 pmShowman,
I agree, “significant operations” is vastly different than “total operation.” However, the headline of this post merely says,
The headline uses neither “significant” nor “total” in its text. Neither does the text beneath the headline use either term. Be careful reading into something that which does not exist, then criticizing the original source for something which was not stated. That is a tactic of the “spin doctors.”
February 19th, 2006 at 3:40 pmWHIPSERWAVE
EVERYONE REMEBER WHISPERWAVE.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:41 pmSuppose all of the Security Bouys at our Nations largest 6 shipping ports suddenly went “blind” at the EXACT SAME TIME.
Would that help a terrorist ship get into the harbors packed with explosive, chemical or biological agents?
February 19th, 2006 at 3:43 pmWorfeus,
I have already seen the entire eastern seaboard of the United States in flames.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:46 pmShowman
Even if all their operations are handled completely by American civilians, the parent state owned foreign company will have detailed knowledge of port our port security from the day to day contract obligations.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:47 pmIt’s unbelievably tone deaf politically at this point in our history, four years after 9/11, to entertain the idea of turning port security over to a company based in the UAE, who avows to destroy Israel.
Senator Lindsey Graham
February 19th, 2006 at 3:48 pmTechnologies announced it had doubled its production capacity, owing to an increased global demand for the WhisprWave® line of maritime barriers and buoys.
The Company also announced several recent port security contracts both in the US and globally, with expanded manufacturing production lending them the ability to ensure delivery and installation of the WhisprWave® products.
As of January 25th it was announced that the delivery and installation of four Marine Security Sign Buoys and two hundred and eighty linear feet of WhisprWave® Small Craft Intrusion Barrier™ (SCIB™) for the US Army Reserve Facility at Mare Island, Vallejo, CA were secured.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:51 pmI live in Philadelphia. If the terrorists attack my port, I’ll know who failed to protect us.
The Bush Administration misses every opportunity to protect us, while taking every opportunity to violate the Constitution and rob us of our unalienable right.
Impeach.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:51 pmWhisprWave® Floating Breakwater and Wave Attenuator Purchased for use in the Port of Jebel Ali, Dubai, UAE
Naval Support Contract Follows Recent Presentation to the 3rd Arab Maritime Security Congress
Sylvan Lake, MI – December 20, 2005 -
Wave Dispersion Technologies (WDT) http://wwww.whisprwave.com announced it has recently received a purchase contract from Naval Security Forces for the Port of Jebel Ali, in Dubai, United Arab Emirates for 300 feet of WhisprWave® large floating wave attenuator (LFWA).
February 19th, 2006 at 3:53 pmWhen the headlines here says
…”Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff refused to explain why the administration has turned over control of operations at six of the nation’s largest ports to a company owned by the United Arab Emirates”
Tell me please in all honesty and fairness if it is not easy to draw the conclusions that six of this nation’s port’s ENTIRE operations have been turned over to a company owned by the UAE.
If this is not true, then there is a certain amount of unnecessary or premature fearmongering going on and one does not have to be either left or right to make a call on this. We have had it up to here with fearmongering. Let’s understand what the facts are and the dangers posed before we blow off please and not be so defensive at the slightest criticism that may weaken a certain stance.
Thank you SHOWMAN for pointing this out.
February 19th, 2006 at 3:59 pmAnyone see Oceans 11?
February 19th, 2006 at 4:00 pmAND STOP THOSE PORTS FROM BEING SOLD TO ANYONE! PLEASE, I AM BEGGING YOU ALL TO CALL CONGRESS ASAP TOMORROW AND DEMAND NO SALE OF THOSE PORTS!PLEASE!
Comment by a Boy Named Sue
Hi Sue..how do you do?
I just love it when the moonbats bark in capital letters.
I’m not going to tell her.
February 19th, 2006 at 4:03 pmWhisprWave® Floating Breakwater and Wave Attenuator Purchased for use in the Port of Jebel Ali, Dubai, UAE .
Think people.
Lets say I wanted to bypass a security device to commit a crime.
Suppose I could “purchase” the security device I needed to bypass?
How much of an advantage would that give me?
February 19th, 2006 at 4:03 pmDoesn’t Chertoff have dual citizenship? If so, why is he head of this agency? Given his stellar performance with Katrina, why is he even in a position today to be commenting on this transaction?
February 19th, 2006 at 4:04 pmSuppose I modified the security device to do something other than for what it was intended to do?
Lets say I had operational control over the device. Could I replace the devices with my modified devices?
February 19th, 2006 at 4:05 pmWhats funny is watching the right wing trolls in here like Showman, who want to downplay the outsourcing of our Nations Seaports security operations to a terrorist friendly Arab state.
These guys scream about national defense as their cornerstone, and then defend the most LAMEBRAIN RECKLESS ASSBACKWARDS move anyone could ever make.
Its like being protected by the KeyStone Cops!
February 19th, 2006 at 4:09 pmEveryone repeat after me.
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February 19th, 2006 at 4:18 pmShould a nation make a guard dog out of a hound of HELL?
February 19th, 2006 at 4:18 pmBriseadh na Faire,
Thank you for addressing the point of my comment. While I agree that the headline of this post doesn’t include the world “total”, the absence of any qualifier can esaily lead one to infer (as I did, and others here appear to have as well) that the operation of these gigantic ports had been turned over lock, stock and barrel to the UAE.
Instead, according to the NY times, the facilities affected in NY are “Operations of the cruise ship terminal on the West side of Manhattan and one-half interest in the third-largest conatainer terminal in the port of NY.”
February 19th, 2006 at 4:19 pmIf I hadn’t told you dumbasses a week ago that this was a very bad idea and that instead of doing your usual nit-picking circle jerk you should jump on this issue you’d still be in that circle. I see the MSM is going to give the Cheney shotgun blast at least another week of top coverage. I guess maybe I ought to call them too.
But one thing puzzled me. Arabs in the Detroit area are shining laser lights at pilots, Arabs in New Jersey are killing Christians, Arabs all over the Middle East and Indonesia are killing and maiming and kidnapping and beheading and bombing, in Africa they are committing genocide on a scale not seen since they slaughtered 2 million Christians in the Balkans, and not one word from you losers. Why is that?
Well, let me tell you why that is. That is so because you just haven’t found a way to blame George Bush and tie it all together in a neat little package. Unless George’s fingerprints are all over it Islam is the “Religion of Peach” and no amount of killing and destruction by these savages because of a cartoon or some imagined slight to the cultist instruction book the Koran is going to bother you.
I’m ashamed of each and every one of you bastards that call yourself Americans. The Zeropeans on here I don’t care about, I mean, really, who does? But you Americans are supposed to be good and kind and generous and you’re supposed to hate the bad guys. If George Bush is the only bad guy you know then you people are morally corrupt, blind, simpering little fukweasels and piss poor Americans.
Have a nice Sunday.
February 19th, 2006 at 4:21 pmI see the Kult eunuchs have eaten their can beans in the basement shelter and now can fart out the kult scripture verses.
February 19th, 2006 at 4:21 pmFor the TP team in case they are interested.
Wave Dispersion Technologies, Inc
February 19th, 2006 at 4:21 pmJonathan B. Smith,
Managing Director
Sylvan Lake, MI
248-229-9010 jbsmith@whisprwave.com
I’m ashamed of each and every one of you bastards that call yourself
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 19, 2006 @ 4:21 pm
Gee….I-RIECHSTAG-I is ashamed of us.
What to do……
:|
February 19th, 2006 at 4:27 pmA boychild like IRI does not have enough life experience to form a simple conclusion let alone a complex one.
February 19th, 2006 at 4:34 pmHey IRI, when you get your pubic hair in then you might be able to join the military and find out what a real American really is.
Until then, don’t tell me what a REAL American is.
February 19th, 2006 at 4:43 pmSo lets see, the UAE will have Operation control of our 6 largest Sea Ports, and they will also have a SPACE PORT along with advanced SPACE technology.
February 19th, 2006 at 4:48 pmJeezus-friggin-christ!
Katy(#32), Without Jay Randall (#28), we would have nothing more to work for!! “We” aren’t rep/dem/l/r. Pass it on.
February 19th, 2006 at 4:49 pmGee IRI if you are so ashamed of us then perhaps you should ignore us and go away.
February 19th, 2006 at 4:59 pm#38 by James
Very, very simple: Split off the port operations piece from the business deal, just like similar actions taken to avoid antitrust concerns during other corporate buyouts. P&O then keeps or sells the port operations to an American company (or possibly other British company). This kind of stuff happens all the time. It’s not rocket science. Duh. But apparently it’s far beyond what the Bush Administration can handle. Why am I not surprised.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:00 pmWhat is WhisprWave® Floating Breakwater and Wave Attenuator?
Comment by Sue — February 19, 2006 @ 4:20 pm
LOL, Sue, its a multi-purpose Breakwater device. Its A buoy basically that can do stuff, like measure waves, erosion, or provice Security capabilites.
The interesting thing is when they were purchased by the UAE.
The port of Dubai, operated by Dubai Ports Worldwide, the same firm taking over many security operations of our ports, purchased the devices around the same time they purchased a contract to run operations at 6 major US ports.
The coincidence is hard to ignore.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:01 pmSo lets see, the UAE will have Operation control of our 6 largest Sea Ports, and they will also have a SPACE PORT along with advanced SPACE technology.
Jeezus-friggin-christ!
Comment by Marie — February 19, 2006 @ 4:48 pm
Thats right Marie, and they also have our Port Harbor Water security devices to examine intrictly.
They just purchased a bunch of them.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:03 pmGee IRI if you are so ashamed of us then perhaps you should ignore us and go away.
Comment by Marie
Somebody has to keep an eye on you losers.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:04 pmSPACE PORTS, HARBOR SECUIRTY DEVICES, and now control over our HARBORS.
Sounds like someones getting to serve up a bowl of DISASTER SOUP.
mmmmmmm
February 19th, 2006 at 5:07 pm#131 Somebody has to keep an eye on you losers.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I
Thus either you really care (how sweet), or you think we’re really dangerous to the right-wingers (how complimentary). You pick.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:08 pmSomebody has to keep an eye on you losers.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 19, 2006 @ 5:04 pm
Yea? Hows the pay?
February 19th, 2006 at 5:10 pmKnowing the past, plus what’s been happening lately, then adding this only makes something that’s bad….look more than a lot worse.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:10 pmSPACE PORTS, SEA PORTS AND HARBOR SECUIRTY DEVICES,
oh my. :|
February 19th, 2006 at 5:11 pm#135 Exactly right. It’s the whole story that makes each new bit so damning. The Repubs try to pass off each piece taken by itself, and the unthinking media and public don’t see the whole story. Then they say, “What’s the big deal with this one thing?”
February 19th, 2006 at 5:14 pmWhats funny is watching the right wing trolls in here like Showman, who want to downplay the outsourcing of our Nations Seaports security operations to a terrorist friendly Arab state.
These guys scream about national defense as their cornerstone, and then defend the most LAMEBRAIN RECKLESS ASSBACKWARDS move anyone could ever make.
Its like being protected by the KeyStone Cops!
Comment by worfeus
You wouldn’t even know about this if I hadn’t told you and you wouldn’t be bitching about it if I hadn’t shown you how you beat up Bush with it. It’s just now sinking in why it’s important but still the most important part to you is that IT IS GEORGE BUSH’S FAULT. Hey dumbass, the states that these ports reside are Blue aren’t they? Yes. And there’s only one or two Democrats bitching about it at the Federal right? Yes. So basically this is a bi-partisan fuck America job isn’t it? Yeppers.
Oh, and you still haven’t explained why this bothers you so much since everybody knows that Islam is the Religion of Peace and that BUSH MASTERMINDED 9-11, NOT THE ISLAMISTS. So what’s the f’ing problem here. The Muslims don’t mean us any harm, right?
Just in case you missed it I’m trying to show how hypocritical and inconsistent you pea-brained losers are.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:15 pmSo don’t talk about the right wing trolls.
Yea, I mean whats the big deal?
What possible damage could the financeers of 911 do to us from our 6 largest national Harbors?
February 19th, 2006 at 5:17 pmYea? Hows the pay?
Comment by WORFEUS —
More than you get for a blow job you self hating American prick.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:17 pmYou wouldn’t even know about this if I hadn’t told you and you wouldn’t be bitching about it if I hadn’t shown you how you beat up Bush with it.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 19, 2006 @ 5:15 pm
You really think to much of yourself I-IDIOT-I.
I knew about this story long before I saw it in here. I’ve been posting in another blog for over a week about this, the SPACE PORTS, and the WHISPRWAVE sales, (the last 2 of which you have said NOTHING about in here).
You should rethink your high opinion of yourself. It just makes you look even dumber.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:21 pmMore than you get for a blow job you self hating American prick.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 19, 2006 @ 5:17 pm
If I were you’re boss, I’d ask for my money back.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:24 pmHey Judd.
This is OK? We allow this kind of attack now?
Cool.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:25 pmMore than you get for a blow job you self hating American prick.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 19, 2006 @ 5:17 pm
Actually, I heard your Mom gets more.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:26 pmThen again they said your father needs to swallow more.
If he keeps spitting it out well have to knock the lower half of his teeth out so we can do a force swallow.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:27 pmWhy do you think we call your dad Rubberneck
:D
February 19th, 2006 at 5:28 pmI-RIGHT-I,
First of all, I would like to commend you for not saying Muslims, Muslims, Muslims.
Second, you need to direct this question at Think Progress. They choose what to blog on and we respond with posts that relate to the threads. Other than that, it is called posting off topic and is one of the biggest distractions that you trolls use. Why would us liberals want to derail our own threads?
February 19th, 2006 at 5:34 pmWorfeus, calm down. Do not stoop to IRI’s level. I appreciate your earlier posts tremendously.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:34 pmThanks Bris, but that was calm.
In fact, it was gleeful.
I figure if Judd thinks its ok for that peice of bowl of human sewage to talk to me that way, then it must likewise be ok for me to retort in like fashion.
Fair is fair.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:37 pmIf he keeps spitting it out well have to knock the lower half of his teeth out so we can do a force swallow.
Comment by WORFEUS — February 19, 2006 @ 5:27 pm
His father is dead…
Seems the Right and the Left finally agree on something (since no one is attacking his argument, just his juvenile approach). I think we can seize the opportunity to remember that it is “WE The People” and stop fighting like a bunch of third graders.
Even the other night, both of you posted links to sites that were basically condeming the same problem. Yet you kept fighting over semantics. Never seeing that the argument is overshadowing the problem.
This is how the Plantation Owners of the South got away with their atrocities. They pitted the Irish immigrants against the black slaves - creating tension through racism, so they could, while the bickering was going on, get away with anything. It’s no different now. They’re pitting the Left aganist the Right and while we argue over which side is more corrupt, our government is making the Plantation Owners look like saints.
You’re both better than this pettiness. I just wish you’d see it yourselves and try to act like the intelligent grown men you are.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:38 pmSUE:
email me at myspammailbox at hotmail dot com
please. Post back here when you have.
I care.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:39 pmRubberneck……LOL, didn’t that one crack you up?
Even a little?
February 19th, 2006 at 5:39 pmOk, well whatever Unbelievable. As for his father being dead? Who cares. Lots of peoples fathers are dead.
He knows what he’s doing when he vomits up his vile bile in here, insulting people and launching personal attacks.
I just thought I’d oblige him.
In the words of Lucius Lactantius, It is better to employ words, than blows. - Divine Institutes
February 19th, 2006 at 5:42 pmClearly, we’re going to drive this car off the cliff… all while bickering over which radio station to play.
Have a good evening.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:45 pmAnd did you ever stop to think, that maybe I’m not better than that?
Maybe I’m fed up with being insulted in the most filthy of fashions and expected to take it like a freakin Amish farmer?
A couple of right winged punks opened their mouth to me in a bar once, interuppting a conversation I was having with a girl over why we should not invade Iraq.
One of the little punks told me he had a friend who died in the tower and I better stop defending Iraq.
I told him to make me.
Know what the 4 big tough right wing punks did?
Thats right.
Not a goddamned thing.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:46 pmBut OK.
I’ll leave since I’m clearly not wanted by either side this evening.
TTFN
February 19th, 2006 at 5:48 pmWorfeus, I agree with Unbelievable.
Unbelievable, I would address I-Right-I’s argument. He misses the point. Atrocities are being committed by both sides in what is rapidly degenerating into a holy crusade/jihad reminiscent of 1000 years ago.
NO ONE seems willing to address the root causes. And until that happens, the killing will continue, because the dead come from the expendable masses, sent there by the ruling elite. Until humanity realizes that religion, race and culture are being used to manipulate and control and keep the few in perpetual power, there will be no change, only hatred and destruction while the privileged few worship at the shrine of their holy profit.
We are being systematically played and sacrificed to fill an insatiable need, an insatiable greed, a denial of death that has plagued man-unkind since the first realization of mortality in this realm.
I generally do not address I-Right-I because his arguments amount to two wrongs making a right: he justifies one wrong by citing another. He also punctuates his arguments with name-calling. That tactic demeans everything else he says.
Keep to a reasoned debate. Back up assertions of fact with original sources. Justify the rightness of your position through reason, not name-calling.
February 19th, 2006 at 6:00 pmWORFEUS,
I don’t mind you attacking I-RIGHT-I the racist bastard deserves it.
It is one thing to debate with righties, it is another thing to sit here and take bullsh!t insults from the likes of I-RIGHT-I or own very own stalker wwallace.
People like this will never change and deserve everything they get. Fvck ‘em.
February 19th, 2006 at 6:01 pmIt looks most like the beurocracy trying to offset costs for port security so they can free up some money to help out the Christians in Darfur,maybe some restitution.With all the evangecals over there it’s no wonder the atmosphere is so violent.The pity is that nobody is realy cognizant of the issues but I’m sure that there are mineral resources involved and American investors.This must be hush hush and classified since there is so little coverage of theose events.Who counts the votes,who owns the media,you are what you eat.
February 19th, 2006 at 6:02 pmI-IDIOT-I…i’m really surprized that you are able to read!!
February 19th, 2006 at 6:05 pmHow much money did the Busheviks get to deliver this contract? We knew our government was for sale. Now we know the security of our major ports is for sale, to a Dubai based Al Qaeda affiliate. Great….
February 19th, 2006 at 6:21 pmMaybe the out-there theory of the Bushies being in bed with the Saudis has more than a grain of truth in it. Bush is the agent for the Saudis whose goal is to rule the world. The 9/11 connection, the events of the following days, the letting OBL escape, the affection openly shown to the King and Princes of Arabia by Bush, the Carlylse group assn., Bush is giving the country away, this week it’s the ports –he is the ultimate double agent, or the stupidest patsy in the world.
February 19th, 2006 at 7:07 pm# 2 there is a Story here but the MSM is totally controlled by the adminstration so the story will be hushed like everything else in this “Homeland”
We are fast becoming a colony of the Arab Oil Cabal and this adminstration is part of that Cabal.
The right wing church movenment will one morning wake up to being owned and controlled and their religon will be tossed like a salad in a 1 star diner.
bushco oil-arab marriage goes way back I wonder what the Hertiage Foundation thinks(Hey Ed Meese give us your thots on this”
There’s many books on the bush family and the arab oil cabals many are worth reading, also something else is worth reading upon is the Caryle Group of which papa bush is very closely linked too.
There is a plot to overtake this country and it will happen .I said in 2000 bush jr is America’s dicator and noone will be able to stop him as he will place all his pawns in power postions and that has happen. The Consitution doesn’t mean any more to bastard than a piece of paper to wipe his ass on! That flag he so artfully dislays means Nothing and Bill Frist is a laughing joke in Nashville esp at Vanderbilt University and Vanderbilt Hospital.
This country has become a blood thirsty nighmare.
The Dem Party doesn’t have the balls to take on bushco if they did these Vampires would lay down if those who pretend to be Pro Consitution like Hagel, Snowe, Chafee and others then this thug in the W.H. would be impeached.
A few days ago the word Anthrax came up yes, I believe we all know who sent that Anthrax out and the reason just like the same group took a plane out of the sky with Paul Wellstone to many real lawmakers were questioning and this Cabal had to stop them. Now trolls don’t get your panties and shorts all twisted up in your cracks just yet cause this affect you people more than it does us.’Nuff said”
February 19th, 2006 at 7:12 pm#138 by I-right-I
1. YOU haven’t explained why this bothers YOU so much.
2. YOU haven’t explained why this DOESN’T bother BUSH so much. It’s his ‘War on Terror.’ Why do his actions appear to show that he’s NOT fighting a war? This is one of many actions that show Bush is not fighting any war on terror and is not preparing the country for another attack.
3. If you agree that this is problem (allowing a corporate sale that gives management of major American ports to an Arab country with ties to terrorism), then why are you harassing like-minded folks here? Why aren’t YOU complaining about Bush??
February 19th, 2006 at 7:16 pm