Dozens of factory workers were pulled off buses and gunned down in northeast Baghdad, leaving 47 dead, and at least 90 Sunni mosques have been attacked.
Would this constitute the beginnings of an actual civil war,as opposed to those killings that occurred previously which were just part of “sectarian violence”?
Way To Go bush & co.I bet killer bush is grinning from ear to ear this morning and saying more blood for my oil.
What needs to be done is the Iraqi’s to come together and kick All Foreign Powers Out of The Country and that Includes All Foreign Oil Companies and release Saddam Hussein so that at least his strength may lead to Iraq coming together as one Country Again.
I think then other Arab Countries would jump on board with Aid. America has to stay out of the Middle East out of this Culture. Ok Freepers I’ll just set back and watch ya’ll go nuts about me wanting Saddam released.
If you take the time and research Saddam Huessin the Iraqi people were much better off under him and when America was on Saddam’s side ,Saddam wanted to become like America . Saddams government was secular which was and is the Only way to run a country.When you mix Religon in Governing you get Civil War .
The next thing would be to go to the Hague about the bush & co invasion,crimes against the Iraqi people,torture and war crimes , profiteering.
Now stop screeching that Saddam was a murderer and look squarely at this Country what the hell has been going on in the Middle East with this Country and Blackwater,Titan Corp and Caci International not to say in the least turning our young people into legal worn out, stress out killers and for what not to defend my freedoms or yours but to defend the rights of Oil Corps and their billions of profiteering and its wrong! I would dare say gw bush has gone to the length of Treason against the United States Of America .Lying and going to War without Congress’s Consent is an Impeachable action. Congress Never gave bush the go ahead to go to war in Iraq. Congress gave him the right to use force in the “front” on terror and to find his half brother bin laden.
Boy is this gonna be fun reading the kneejerk reaction from the republican crowd. BTW America should not allow one America to step foot in any Muslim Holy Place that’s an affront to that Cultures Religon. I would strongly suggest asking on bended knees for other Arab Countries to help rebuild Every Mosque that has been damaged or destroyed. Its BLowback time Mr bush/rummy/rice/rove/feith/pearl/bolton/cheney/haliburton and all others in their greedy quest to take over Countries for Profit!
Bush welcomes the onset of sectarian violence in Iraq. It gives him the perfect excuse to station troops there for the foreseeable future which is what the Cabal intended all along.
On January 28, 2006, Iranian officials announced that they would “hand over evidence that proved British involvement in bombings in the southern city of Ahvaz earlier in the week†that killed eight civilians and wounded 46 others. This was just one of the many bombings, incitements, and demonstrations that have taken place in Khuzestan in the last year that suggest foreign intervention. The action is strikingly similar to the 2 British commandoes who were apprehended in Basra a few months ago dressed as Arabs with a truckload of explosives during the week of religious festival.
For American troops to remain in Iraq,they will hunker down in fixed sites,venturing out on occasion to put down some recognized threat. The fort structures are simply much more elaborate castles. For every defensive measure,though, there is an eventual offensive design that will overcome them.
The US will call them bases or forts but they’re just castles situated on foreign soil awaiting their ultimate demise.
More expense,more lives,less of everything else.
What a mess.
Definately sonething to do with Bush and co I can smell it especially when Whitehouse officials say this about it
In Washington, a senior US official said the al-Qaida was suspected of being behind the attack on the Shia shrine.
“We believe this can be traced back to the Zarqawi al-Qaida movement,” said the State Department’s coordinator for Iraq policy, Ambassador James Jeffrey, on Wednesday adding the United States would do all it could to track down the perpetrators.
I smell a Big American RAT
Asked what evidence the US had to link the attack to al-Qaida, Jeffrey said Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaida leader in Iraq, had often called for attacks on Shia targets and said they were aimed at sparking civil war.
“We are trying to connect the dots,” he told reporters at the State Department. “We certainly think it would be in line with what they have been saying and doing.”
The hard part for Pres. Bush about civil war in Iraq will be explaining why it was allowed to happen while America was administring the country. The next country that Pres. Bush says we need to invade because of “weapons of mass destruction”, or any other convenient excuse, we need to remind him of his failures in Iraq.
“Nobody could have forseen that civil war would erupt after we brought democracy to Iraq” – Any bet’s on this being said by at least one administration official??
#15 The big problem is that Zarqawi and Al Qaeda are fundamentalist islamic believers. Blowing up one of the biggest worshipping centers of Islam doesn’t fit as one of their actions.
The neo-cons could care less if Iraq erupts in civil war. In fact, it’s exactly what they want. With U.S. troops hunkered down in their massively fortified camps complete with TGIF and Pizza Hut, the more civil disorder the better. A united Iraq would constitute a massive threat to Israel and they’re not going to allow that to happen.
If you want a historical perspective for the sectarian violance in Iraq one need look no further than Northern Ireland as an example of two branches of the same religion(christian) that used tactics of violance to fight each other, and there was even a “foriegn”(British to the Irish) occuping power in the mix.
This latest attrocity could probably be the tipping point to push the Shiites and Sunnis into the downward spiral of esclating violance that erupts into full out civil war, But unlike the situation in Northern Ireland, our “occupation force” has no historical connection to the civilian population.
One of the most sacred mosques to the shiite muslim people is severely damaged, upwards of 95 sunni mosques have been attacked in retailiation, a number of prominate sunni clerics have been killed, and some are blaming comments of the American ambasador for helping spark the attack.
Another historical prespective also comes to mind, the recent break up of Yugoslavia into the seperate ethnic and religious countries with alot of ethnic and religious violance in the process. No amount of foriegn influence could hold Yugoslavia together, nor could the hard line policies of the government in Belgrade. The newly elected government can do little to solve the problem. They do not have the legitimatcy required to influance the population to refrain from retailitory violence. Neither can the US military do much given the animosity that many sunni’s and shiites have for what is commonly viewed as the occupation force.
I wonder if the geneuses in DC will get it. Or will this be the next world event in the middle east that Condi won’t see coming. Will Rumsfeld pass this off as the release of the pent up frustrations of being occupied for three years. Has someone told Bush yet. If they didn’t think Iraq was, as Colin Powell said, broke before, it is now, the only question is, can anyone put it back together again before it explodes?
Maybe the Bushco strategy is to now bring in Christian evangelists who will proselytize and attempt to ‘calm’ the situation. There are probably ‘faith-based’ activities going on there and fomenting discord among
the Muslim community may be part of the plan. Idiotic but I wouldn’t put it past Bushco. Chaos = opportunity.
As long as the civil war doesn’t touch the oil fields they don’t care, and now they have a great excuse for not finishing infrastructure construction and an excuse for of the shoddy work that was performed already. Everyone makes out except for the American tax payer and the innocent Iraqi citizens.
Hey whats few million brown people getting slaughtered. They are muslims. Some of them are even gay. They needed to be punished. Bible says so. God Bless America.
War is highly profitable. It is less expensive to wage war than it is to maintain peace and prosperity. All of the costs are saddled onto the taxslaves. All of the profit is privatized in advance. It’s become axiomatic
First the Democrats were marginalized, turned into crackpots by the smarmy neonitwits. Now, the Republican senators and congressman are being marginalized and ignored by the neonitwits. Dubai Ports is a done deal. The globalist, neocon economic ewetopia can do without the US government.
That’ll descend into war too. It’ll be another good war, so don’t worry.
I’m pissed because they interrupted my favorite teevee show last night to talk about this. I had to reach clear over to the table from my recliner chair and grab the remote to mute the sound. I almost strained my arm muscles doing this.
It’s just not fair that some brown people with funny names have to go and wreck my teevee viewing experience.
Cliff,
Feeling bad for the US soldiers gets just a bit harder when you read the first hand accounts of the attack and slaughter of innocent civilians in Falujah, Cliff and other US attrocities, though I reason and I try.
Osama has been recorded saying that Shites were an abomination and not Moslem at all. They have no problem killing Shites or blowing up mosques because, in their way of thinking, they aren’t attacking a moslem institution so much as a blasphemy. You need look only to Pakistan to see the same thing.
Bush is a sick fascist, but they didn’t do this one.
#30 Karen having been in a war, Desert Storm, I can tell you that not all soldiers are like the ones that have been protrayed in stories of Falluja or Abu Graibe,
It is about the troops in Samara the town where the Mosque was blown up that started the latest round of sectarian violance, but one question you must ask your self is,
What would I do if I was in their situation, and saying you’d not join the military or go to war is no answer because they already did that, put your self in their place and ask yourself how would you deal with it?
Drew and all, not just our foreign policy, our domestic policy is just as bad. Our military are being killed, thank’s to Bull S*** Bush and co. Our country is being sold off, including our parks, wilderness and ports. The food lines are longer, everything needed in our country is being dismantled and the profits directed to the upper class….When are going to get rid of this regime.?
Smedley, you are a piece of shit for you disregard of our troops and their lives, if there is a hell I hope you roast there.
Just awful.
February 23rd, 2006 at 7:30 amWould this constitute the beginnings of an actual civil war,as opposed to those killings that occurred previously which were just part of “sectarian violence”?
Reaping the whirlwind.
February 23rd, 2006 at 7:31 amI don’t think 98% of America realizes just how incredible yesterday’s actions were and what it’s going to lead to.
Sunnis basically could not have attacked a more sacred site to Shiites without just blowing up Mecca itself and their own holy city.
February 23rd, 2006 at 7:46 amSo this is it? Civil war? Pretty sad how we ruined this country.
R2K
February 23rd, 2006 at 7:53 amSlam dunk.
February 23rd, 2006 at 7:56 amWay To Go bush & co.I bet killer bush is grinning from ear to ear this morning and saying more blood for my oil.
What needs to be done is the Iraqi’s to come together and kick All Foreign Powers Out of The Country and that Includes All Foreign Oil Companies and release Saddam Hussein so that at least his strength may lead to Iraq coming together as one Country Again.
I think then other Arab Countries would jump on board with Aid. America has to stay out of the Middle East out of this Culture. Ok Freepers I’ll just set back and watch ya’ll go nuts about me wanting Saddam released.
If you take the time and research Saddam Huessin the Iraqi people were much better off under him and when America was on Saddam’s side ,Saddam wanted to become like America . Saddams government was secular which was and is the Only way to run a country.When you mix Religon in Governing you get Civil War .
The next thing would be to go to the Hague about the bush & co invasion,crimes against the Iraqi people,torture and war crimes , profiteering.
Now stop screeching that Saddam was a murderer and look squarely at this Country what the hell has been going on in the Middle East with this Country and Blackwater,Titan Corp and Caci International not to say in the least turning our young people into legal worn out, stress out killers and for what not to defend my freedoms or yours but to defend the rights of Oil Corps and their billions of profiteering and its wrong! I would dare say gw bush has gone to the length of Treason against the United States Of America .Lying and going to War without Congress’s Consent is an Impeachable action. Congress Never gave bush the go ahead to go to war in Iraq. Congress gave him the right to use force in the “front” on terror and to find his half brother bin laden.
Boy is this gonna be fun reading the kneejerk reaction from the republican crowd. BTW America should not allow one America to step foot in any Muslim Holy Place that’s an affront to that Cultures Religon. I would strongly suggest asking on bended knees for other Arab Countries to help rebuild Every Mosque that has been damaged or destroyed. Its BLowback time Mr bush/rummy/rice/rove/feith/pearl/bolton/cheney/haliburton and all others in their greedy quest to take over Countries for Profit!
February 23rd, 2006 at 7:59 amBush welcomes the onset of sectarian violence in Iraq. It gives him the perfect excuse to station troops there for the foreseeable future which is what the Cabal intended all along.
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:07 amI guess we’ll have to wait a little longer for the flowers and candy that the neocons promised everyone.
Can we now say that this whole concept of bringing democracy to the Middle East was a dumb idea?
Trident
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:13 amLast throes. Ba’athist dead-enders and foreign fighters. Purple fingers. Freedom on the march.
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:18 amI suspect Britsh or American covert operations ……
just like Below
Tonkin Bay Redux
On January 28, 2006, Iranian officials announced that they would “hand over evidence that proved British involvement in bombings in the southern city of Ahvaz earlier in the week†that killed eight civilians and wounded 46 others. This was just one of the many bombings, incitements, and demonstrations that have taken place in Khuzestan in the last year that suggest foreign intervention. The action is strikingly similar to the 2 British commandoes who were apprehended in Basra a few months ago dressed as Arabs with a truckload of explosives during the week of religious festival.
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:19 amI think they’ve had a “cold” civil war for awhile. Now it’s hot.
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:20 amSee what bush has caused to happen
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:20 amFor American troops to remain in Iraq,they will hunker down in fixed sites,venturing out on occasion to put down some recognized threat. The fort structures are simply much more elaborate castles. For every defensive measure,though, there is an eventual offensive design that will overcome them.
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:22 amThe US will call them bases or forts but they’re just castles situated on foreign soil awaiting their ultimate demise.
More expense,more lives,less of everything else.
What a mess.
I’m sorry , what page of the PNAC handbook can I find this situation’s description?
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:29 amDefinately sonething to do with Bush and co I can smell it especially when Whitehouse officials say this about it
In Washington, a senior US official said the al-Qaida was suspected of being behind the attack on the Shia shrine.
“We believe this can be traced back to the Zarqawi al-Qaida movement,” said the State Department’s coordinator for Iraq policy, Ambassador James Jeffrey, on Wednesday adding the United States would do all it could to track down the perpetrators.
I smell a Big American RAT
Asked what evidence the US had to link the attack to al-Qaida, Jeffrey said Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaida leader in Iraq, had often called for attacks on Shia targets and said they were aimed at sparking civil war.
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:29 am“We are trying to connect the dots,” he told reporters at the State Department. “We certainly think it would be in line with what they have been saying and doing.”
Impeach Bush 27 Congressman wants probe of president’s decision to go into Iraq
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:31 amThe hard part for Pres. Bush about civil war in Iraq will be explaining why it was allowed to happen while America was administring the country. The next country that Pres. Bush says we need to invade because of “weapons of mass destruction”, or any other convenient excuse, we need to remind him of his failures in Iraq.
“Nobody could have forseen that civil war would erupt after we brought democracy to Iraq” – Any bet’s on this being said by at least one administration official??
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:38 am#15 The big problem is that Zarqawi and Al Qaeda are fundamentalist islamic believers. Blowing up one of the biggest worshipping centers of Islam doesn’t fit as one of their actions.
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:40 amThe neo-cons could care less if Iraq erupts in civil war. In fact, it’s exactly what they want. With U.S. troops hunkered down in their massively fortified camps complete with TGIF and Pizza Hut, the more civil disorder the better. A united Iraq would constitute a massive threat to Israel and they’re not going to allow that to happen.
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:44 amIf you want a historical perspective for the sectarian violance in Iraq one need look no further than Northern Ireland as an example of two branches of the same religion(christian) that used tactics of violance to fight each other, and there was even a “foriegn”(British to the Irish) occuping power in the mix.
This latest attrocity could probably be the tipping point to push the Shiites and Sunnis into the downward spiral of esclating violance that erupts into full out civil war, But unlike the situation in Northern Ireland, our “occupation force” has no historical connection to the civilian population.
One of the most sacred mosques to the shiite muslim people is severely damaged, upwards of 95 sunni mosques have been attacked in retailiation, a number of prominate sunni clerics have been killed, and some are blaming comments of the American ambasador for helping spark the attack.
Another historical prespective also comes to mind, the recent break up of Yugoslavia into the seperate ethnic and religious countries with alot of ethnic and religious violance in the process. No amount of foriegn influence could hold Yugoslavia together, nor could the hard line policies of the government in Belgrade. The newly elected government can do little to solve the problem. They do not have the legitimatcy required to influance the population to refrain from retailitory violence. Neither can the US military do much given the animosity that many sunni’s and shiites have for what is commonly viewed as the occupation force.
I wonder if the geneuses in DC will get it. Or will this be the next world event in the middle east that Condi won’t see coming. Will Rumsfeld pass this off as the release of the pent up frustrations of being occupied for three years. Has someone told Bush yet. If they didn’t think Iraq was, as Colin Powell said, broke before, it is now, the only question is, can anyone put it back together again before it explodes?
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:00 amCongratulations, President Bush ! It’s a Civil War !
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:01 amMaybe the Bushco strategy is to now bring in Christian evangelists who will proselytize and attempt to ‘calm’ the situation. There are probably ‘faith-based’ activities going on there and fomenting discord among
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:03 amthe Muslim community may be part of the plan. Idiotic but I wouldn’t put it past Bushco. Chaos = opportunity.
#18 your right i was gonna say that ..No Muslims would blow the Mosque up even sunni or shia it had to be Americans …it was planned I small a rat
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:17 amAs long as the civil war doesn’t touch the oil fields they don’t care, and now they have a great excuse for not finishing infrastructure construction and an excuse for of the shoddy work that was performed already. Everyone makes out except for the American tax payer and the innocent Iraqi citizens.
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:17 am#24 Fred there are a few american tax payers who hope that they only lose money in this situation, the soldiers who are there and their families.
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:23 am#26 good point! how could I forget.
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:31 amHey whats few million brown people getting slaughtered. They are muslims. Some of them are even gay. They needed to be punished. Bible says so. God Bless America.
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:35 amWar is highly profitable. It is less expensive to wage war than it is to maintain peace and prosperity. All of the costs are saddled onto the taxslaves. All of the profit is privatized in advance. It’s become axiomatic
A new space port in Dubai too.
First the Democrats were marginalized, turned into crackpots by the smarmy neonitwits. Now, the Republican senators and congressman are being marginalized and ignored by the neonitwits. Dubai Ports is a done deal. The globalist, neocon economic ewetopia can do without the US government.
That’ll descend into war too. It’ll be another good war, so don’t worry.
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:43 amI’m pissed because they interrupted my favorite teevee show last night to talk about this. I had to reach clear over to the table from my recliner chair and grab the remote to mute the sound. I almost strained my arm muscles doing this.
It’s just not fair that some brown people with funny names have to go and wreck my teevee viewing experience.
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:44 amCliff,
February 23rd, 2006 at 9:51 amFeeling bad for the US soldiers gets just a bit harder when you read the first hand accounts of the attack and slaughter of innocent civilians in Falujah, Cliff and other US attrocities, though I reason and I try.
Smeg & Smedley – I disagree.
Osama has been recorded saying that Shites were an abomination and not Moslem at all. They have no problem killing Shites or blowing up mosques because, in their way of thinking, they aren’t attacking a moslem institution so much as a blasphemy. You need look only to Pakistan to see the same thing.
Bush is a sick fascist, but they didn’t do this one.
February 23rd, 2006 at 10:19 am#30 Karen having been in a war, Desert Storm, I can tell you that not all soldiers are like the ones that have been protrayed in stories of Falluja or Abu Graibe,
Check out this story from Tom Lasseter
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/13880387.htm
It is about the troops in Samara the town where the Mosque was blown up that started the latest round of sectarian violance, but one question you must ask your self is,
What would I do if I was in their situation, and saying you’d not join the military or go to war is no answer because they already did that, put your self in their place and ask yourself how would you deal with it?
February 23rd, 2006 at 11:00 amHumm? Civil War? Who would have guess that?
EVERYONE who was against the war in the first place predicted this!
When will the politicians and the country WAKE UP!
We are ruled by liars and theves and they must be ousted now.
February 23rd, 2006 at 11:04 amMission Accomplished, enjoy the ride.
-Satan
February 23rd, 2006 at 11:10 amI think it’s safe to say that our foreign policy is a disaster.
February 23rd, 2006 at 11:17 amLook on the bright side. At least the Iraqi oil has paid for this mess. It’s not costing us a dime. (Sense the tone)
Quagmire Accomplished!
February 23rd, 2006 at 11:31 amCan we now say that this whole concept of bringing democracy to the Middle East was a dumb idea?
Or, just a simple “I/we told you so.”
February 23rd, 2006 at 12:05 pm#38 You need to sense the sarcasm. Plus the “Quagmire Accomplished” at the end should have told you where I stand on this.
February 23rd, 2006 at 12:12 pmAt least one good thing came out of this shrine being blown up by a Bush covert operation …….YEE HAA seven american troops killed today YEE HAA
February 23rd, 2006 at 12:57 pm42 – complete asshole. go away.
February 23rd, 2006 at 1:21 pmDrew and all, not just our foreign policy, our domestic policy is just as bad. Our military are being killed, thank’s to Bull S*** Bush and co. Our country is being sold off, including our parks, wilderness and ports. The food lines are longer, everything needed in our country is being dismantled and the profits directed to the upper class….When are going to get rid of this regime.?
Smedley, you are a piece of shit for you disregard of our troops and their lives, if there is a hell I hope you roast there.
February 23rd, 2006 at 2:54 pmthe cancer spreads, how much longer before we choke on our vomit and violence.
February 23rd, 2006 at 10:04 pm