Comments on: ThinkFast: February 23, 2006 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:13:09 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Zookeeper http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-456463 Zookeeper Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:10:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-456463 #25 - This could also lead to women delaying prenatal care as long as possible. More sick women, more sick and disabled babies. #25 – This could also lead to women delaying prenatal care as long as possible. More sick women, more sick and disabled babies.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-456332 Marie Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:50:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-456332 #10, some of those moralists think they have the right to approach a pregnant woman and publicly criticize her for smoking or drinking (unwise habits to be sure, but that's not my point) -- so it's not so far fetched to envision your posit that we can see police records on all pregnant women to ensure they don't "misbehave" and cause an abortion. #10, some of those moralists think they have the right to approach a pregnant woman and publicly criticize her for smoking or drinking (unwise habits to be sure, but that’s not my point) — so it’s not so far fetched to envision your posit that we can see police records on all pregnant women to ensure they don’t “misbehave” and cause an abortion.

]]> By: ann http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455980 ann Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:11:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455980 <em>Women could be potentially prosecuted for having miscarriages.</em> This could also lead to all contraception being outlawed including the Plan B pill. Women could be potentially prosecuted for having miscarriages.

This could also lead to all contraception being outlawed including the Plan B pill.

]]> By: Skeptic http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455853 Skeptic Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:02:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455853 If abortion is illegal in South Dakota, women with money will go to Minnesota, or North Dakota or even as far afield as California or Washington State. Its the poor woman who can't afford a couple days off from work, or gas in their car, or have to care for children or parents or other relatives who will suffer. If abortion is illegal in South Dakota, women with money will go to Minnesota, or North Dakota or even as far afield as California or Washington State. Its the poor woman who can’t afford a couple days off from work, or gas in their car, or have to care for children or parents or other relatives who will suffer.

]]> By: Zookeeper http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455834 Zookeeper Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:47:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455834 TP -- Although coffee and donuts are not included, why not a picture on the heading of a couple decadent donuts and a steaming mug of coffee? Sort of our signal of where to go to unleash or unhinge. TP — Although coffee and donuts are not included, why not a picture on the heading of a couple decadent donuts and a steaming mug of coffee? Sort of our signal of where to go to unleash or unhinge.

]]> By: Zookeeper http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455829 Zookeeper Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:44:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455829 #10 & #16 - The common theme for the whole issue is controlling the lives and bodies of uppity women. The nerve of us wanting self determination! #10 & #16 – The common theme for the whole issue is controlling the lives and bodies of uppity women. The nerve of us wanting self determination!

]]> By: Jeff http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455787 Jeff Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:25:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455787 I thought SD had its statehood revoked after the Cold War; we don't need a vacant, wasteland to store our nuclear weapons anymore. Can we give it back to the Indians! I thought SD had its statehood revoked after the Cold War; we don’t need a vacant, wasteland to store our nuclear weapons anymore. Can we give it back to the Indians!

]]> By: WiscoDuk http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455782 WiscoDuk Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:18:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455782 Nice timing Karl! Abortion smokescreen device successfully deployed... Nice timing Karl!
Abortion smokescreen device successfully deployed…

]]> By: trueblue http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455775 trueblue Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:07:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455775 <em>I agree this is just the first attack to make the whole country submit to fundamentalist Christian morality. </em> ...ruled by some of the most Amoral people.... Sad. Scary. Another small point: yes, this would hurt the poor the most. But do you *really* think that rich women won't have access to abortions? $$$ talks. I agree this is just the first attack to make the whole country submit to fundamentalist Christian morality.

…ruled by some of the most Amoral people….
Sad. Scary.
Another small point: yes, this would hurt the poor the most.
But do you *really* think that rich women won’t have access to abortions? $$$ talks.

]]> By: Violetblu http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455769 Violetblu Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:04:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455769 # 7 Yes she is a Democrat up for re-election this year. She needs to be voted out. Here is a list of the NARAL South Dakota senators abortion ratings: http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=003563M # 7 Yes she is a Democrat up for re-election this year.
She needs to be voted out. Here is a list of the NARAL
South Dakota senators abortion ratings:

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=003563M

]]> By: Pagan American http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455759 Pagan American Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:47:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455759 Right On #10!! I totally agree that this is where the Christian fundies are going with this bill. The holes in it are so huge it is pathetic. If an embryo has the same rights as we do then mothers who don't wear seat-belts should be arrested for child endangerment. Any activity like rock climbing, biking, rollerblading and the like endangers the unborn human so that should be punishable by arrest and prosecution. If they smoke, they provide cigarettes to minors as well as committing child abuse. The same goes for having an alcoholic drink. Agreed these two examples are things pregnant mothers should refrain from but do we arrest and fine them or put them in jail for repeat offenses? I agree this is just the first attack to make the whole country submit to fundamentalist Christian morality. Right On #10!!
I totally agree that this is where the Christian fundies are going with this bill. The holes in it are so huge it is pathetic. If an embryo has the same rights as we do then mothers who don’t wear seat-belts should be arrested for child endangerment. Any activity like rock climbing, biking, rollerblading and the like endangers the unborn human so that should be punishable by arrest and prosecution.

If they smoke, they provide cigarettes to minors as well as committing child abuse. The same goes for having an alcoholic drink. Agreed these two examples are things pregnant mothers should refrain from but do we arrest and fine them or put them in jail for repeat offenses?

I agree this is just the first attack to make the whole country submit to fundamentalist Christian morality.

]]> By: Keith H. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455747 Keith H. Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:31:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455747 #13, Paul, a post from yesterday. The investigation didn’t occur because the element of suprise was important. This is the chance for the Republicans to stand up, puff their chests out, and crow about how they are doing what is right for the security of The United States. How they have boldly told their President ‘no way’, and how they are protecting their people from potential ‘terrist’ attacks. I've since heard arguments that this can't be the case, but it seems likely to me. #13, Paul, a post from yesterday.

The investigation didn’t occur because the element of suprise was important.
This is the chance for the Republicans to stand up, puff their chests out, and crow about how they are doing what is right for the security of The United States. How they have boldly told their President ‘no way’, and how they are protecting their people from potential ‘terrist’ attacks.

I’ve since heard arguments that this can’t be the case, but it seems likely to me.

]]> By: Fatty bin Laden http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455744 Fatty bin Laden Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:29:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455744 The democrats have become just like the republicans, only less so. Looking for them to mount real opposition to the fascist takeover of this country is foolish--they are sucking from the same corporate teat. The democrats have become just like the republicans, only less so. Looking for them to mount real opposition to the fascist takeover of this country is foolish–they are sucking from the same corporate teat.

]]> By: Paul in Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455739 Paul in Mexico Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:23:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455739 I am not seeing this <strong>anywhere</strong>, but this ports issue is not helping anyone except the pukes up for re-election in the house and senate. Of all the voices out there, the dems are once again being silenced by the pukes and their "staged" revolt against Bush. The pukes will be seen as strong on security in spite of Bush and all will be re-elected in November. The dems have no issue, no backbone, no desire to be heard over the din of the pukes. So, once again, down the drain. I am not seeing this anywhere, but this ports issue is not helping anyone except the pukes up for re-election in the house and senate.

Of all the voices out there, the dems are once again being silenced by the pukes and their “staged” revolt against Bush.

The pukes will be seen as strong on security in spite of Bush and all will be re-elected in November.

The dems have no issue, no backbone, no desire to be heard over the din of the pukes. So, once again, down the drain.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455736 Marie Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:21:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455736 Watch the politicians who are in trouble, and up for election, to come out against the Bush plan to veto the ports deal. Dole has been an embarrassment since he is retired, and his wife is as phony as he is. They should quietly go off to Sun City where he can hawk his Viagara, and she can visit the spa every day. Watch the politicians who are in trouble, and up for election, to come out against the Bush plan to veto the ports deal.
Dole has been an embarrassment since he is retired, and his wife is as phony as he is. They should quietly go off to Sun City where he can hawk his Viagara, and she can visit the spa every day.

]]> By: Skeptic http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455732 Skeptic Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:18:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455732 "Lives and Rights of Unborn children" -- what about lives and rights of mothers? Of course since this law only hurts the poor, maybe the senator thinks poor people ought to suffer? “Lives and Rights of Unborn children” — what about lives and rights of mothers? Of course since this law only hurts the poor, maybe the senator thinks poor people ought to suffer?

]]> By: Bfuentes http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455727 Bfuentes Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:15:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455727 I posted my thought on the South Dakota ban on my blog http://bfuentes.blogspot.com/ People need to realize this is a radical agendato force a radical moral view on us and it wont stop with control of abortions. "Think of the ramifications of a law that states that life begins at conception. Women could be potentially prosecuted for having miscarriages. If one of the moral guardians decides the mothers actions caused the miscarriage, is that any different than an abortion. There will have to be mechanisms to track every pregnant woman to guarantee she does not have an abortion. Are doctors going to have to report every pregnancy to the authorities? Then will the women be tracked? If a woman can produce eggs but her body is inhospitable to the egg implanting and surviving, shouldn't she be prohibited from having sex. That brings us around to the possible goal. Sex outside of marriage, which is not intended for procreation, may have to be made illegal. Therefore, there is no need for condoms, so therefore why not just make them illegal. Therefore, since homosexual sex can not be for procreation it should be illegal. Does this all sound ridiculous? Yeah, I guess so. But you know that there are people that voted for this ban that think everything I have stated should happen. The whole purpose of this is to impose a radical right Christian moral code and philosophy on this nation." I posted my thought on the South Dakota ban on my blog
http://bfuentes.blogspot.com/
People need to realize this is a radical agendato force a radical moral view on us and it wont stop with control of abortions.
“Think of the ramifications of a law that states that life begins at conception. Women could be potentially prosecuted for having miscarriages. If one of the moral guardians decides the mothers actions caused the miscarriage, is that any different than an abortion.

There will have to be mechanisms to track every pregnant woman to guarantee she does not have an abortion. Are doctors going to have to report every pregnancy to the authorities? Then will the women be tracked?

If a woman can produce eggs but her body is inhospitable to the egg implanting and surviving, shouldn’t she be prohibited from having sex. That brings us around to the possible goal. Sex outside of marriage, which is not intended for procreation, may have to be made illegal.

Therefore, there is no need for condoms, so therefore why not just make them illegal. Therefore, since homosexual sex can not be for procreation it should be illegal.

Does this all sound ridiculous? Yeah, I guess so. But you know that there are people that voted for this ban that think everything I have stated should happen. The whole purpose of this is to impose a radical right Christian moral code and philosophy on this nation.”

]]> By: David R. Mark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455719 David R. Mark Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:58:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455719 Also in the news: Ohio <a href="http://jabbs.blogspot.com/2006/02/in-ohio-another-loss-for-intelligent.html" rel="nofollow">shoots down</a> an effort to bring intelligent design in their public schools. That's five states in the past few weeks to go against intelligent design, but as JABBS points out, there are still a host of states considering anti-evolution legislation. Also in the news: Ohio shoots down an effort to bring intelligent design in their public schools.

That’s five states in the past few weeks to go against intelligent design, but as JABBS points out, there are still a host of states considering anti-evolution legislation.

]]> By: David R. Mark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455718 David R. Mark Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:56:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455718 For more on Santorum's mortgage and why it might be an ethics violation, check out <a href="http://jabbs.blogspot.com/2006/02/mortgage-obtained-by-santorum-may-have.html" rel="nofollow">JABBS' article from Tuesday.</a> For more on Santorum’s mortgage and why it might be an ethics violation, check out JABBS’ article from Tuesday.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-455714 katy Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:46:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/23/thinkfast-february-23-2006/#comment-455714 about the south dakota abortion ban, i thought this perplexing - from an AP story: ``In my opinion, it is the time for the South Dakota Legislature to deal with this issue and protect the lives and rights of unborn children,'' said Sen. Julie Bartling, a <strong>Democrat</strong> who is the bill's <strong>main sponsor</strong>. hmmm good morning... about the south dakota abortion ban, i thought this perplexing – from an AP story: “In my opinion, it is the time for the South Dakota Legislature to deal with this issue and protect the lives and rights of unborn children,” said Sen. Julie Bartling, a Democrat who is the bill’s main sponsor.
hmmm
good morning…

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