Powerline Pushes WMD Conspiracy Theories
Powerline Pushes WMD Conspiracy Theories
Yesterday, Powerline blog published a post called “Saddam Had WMD.†John Hinderaker — a frequent guest on CNN — said there is “recently discovered evidence” which shows Saddam’s WMD were moved to Syria before the invasion.
Investigators laid the possibility to rest last year. Charles Duelfer, the White House’s hand-picked W.M.D. investigator, found in a 92-page report that “no information gleaned from questioning Iraqis supported the possibility†that Saddam moved WMD to Syria.
There is no “evidence” that shows the Duelfer report was wrong. Rather, a couple of people are pushing conspiracy theories without any supporting evidence.
MYTH #1 – Saddam Flew WMD to Syria:
Fox News reporter Brit Hume reported last month, “The number two general in Saddam Hussein’s air force says Iraq moved its weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the U.S. invasion.â€
Georges Sada, the former general referenced in Hume’s report, laid out the idea in his new book, “Saddam’s Secrets.†Sada claims Saddam used 747 jets “to smuggle his weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq and into Syria, following a natural disaster in northwestern Syria on June 4, 2002.â€
But Sada admits he never saw it happen. Instead, Sada’s two pilot friends are the only witnesses, and Sada said he will not disclose the names of the pilots.
MYTH #2 – The Russians Hid the WMD in Syria:
Some on the right have taken the myth one step further. Pundits such as Fox News military analyst Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney are claiming Russian Special Forces moved the WMD to Syria. Former deputy undersecretary of defense John Shaw came up with this explanation nearly a year ago. He told the conservative NewsMax in March 2005, “I am absolutely sure that Russian Spetsnatz units moved WMD out of Iraq before the war.†NewsMax described the operation as “the most successful intelligence operation of the 21st century.†Like Sada, Shaw has absolutely no evidence to support his theory except for “unnamed sources” in Iraq.
Shaw is hardly a reliable source. The Los Angeles Times reported in April 2004 that the Pentagon inspector general investigated Shaw because he allegedly tried to “alter a contract proposal in Iraq to benefit a mobile phone consortium that includes friends and colleagues.†The resulting delays angered U.S. officials, who said the “deaths of many Americans and Iraqis might have been prevented with better communications.†The Pentagon pushed Shaw out in December 2004.
To Hinderaker this constitutes “evidence” that “the administration, along with the CIA and the intelligence services of all other countries who assessed the issue, likely was right after all.” He then chastizes the news media for failing to report the “big news.”
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February 27th, 2006 at 6:13 pmDuh! Hindrocket strokes on national TV again.
Isn’t that considered porn?
Swear to god, these lying sacks of shit don’t know when to stop.
But we all will see, sooner or later, on this thread this will be IRI’s vindication (to him alone).
February 27th, 2006 at 6:13 pmWoohoo!!
Now we get to invade Syria as well as Iran!
February 27th, 2006 at 6:13 pmThat was a joke btw, my [/sarcasm] tag was interpreted.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:15 pmThis president has the biggest bunch of idiots surrounding him that I have every seen in my 76 years. Where in the hell does he get all of these liars, idiots, whatever you want to call them.
These people lay awake at night and dream these things up.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:16 pmI’m telling you the WMDs are in the backyard garden of the guy who supposedly buried the centrifuges. Just deeper.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:19 pmHindrocket is almost as retarded as MizzWrong and MightyTranny (who apparently has a crush on PowerWimp himself). The reichwing radicals are the looniest bunch of idiots on the planet – and create a whole new level of extremism and idiocy.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:21 pmWhere have you been Ryan? It’s been too long.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:23 pmThese WMDs must have been very small miniatures that somebody could smuggle into Syria by hiding them in their pockets or may have been moved underground via a tunnel extending from Baghdad to a location in Syria. I mean how else could Saddam move them to Syria right under the noses of the US who was watching their every move under a microscope.
We should be able to locate that tunnel any day now. Any day now.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:30 pmI guess what “Curveball” said was true than
February 27th, 2006 at 6:31 pmWasn’t there a retired military type who was a friend, ex friend, of the Bush family that right before the war released a book saying that the Russian special forces were moving out of Iraq prior to the invasion in 03? He subsequently lost his security clearance over the books revelations. Is there any connection to this? Also what about the new 100 dollar bills? Didn’t these come out right after the invasion. I don’t think it’s WMDs, I think counterfit bills is the real secret. Maybe?
February 27th, 2006 at 6:32 pmYay, Ryan! I enjoy your most unique style.
Why are the nut cases re-visiting the WMD issue? Anyone?
February 27th, 2006 at 6:32 pmThank you Payson for pulling this together, one or two of our resident trolls have been pushing this Georges Sada book for several weeks now.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:33 pmI’m sorry this friend of the Bush family released his book right before the Election. Sorry, just washed my keyboard, can’t do a thing with it.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:33 pmhi all, I know this is off-topic (I do mention WMD) but I thought those of you who feel strongly about Britain’s warmongering might want to send an e-mail to my Prime Minister. Below is the letter I just sent him;
Prime Minister Blair,
I am a law-abiding citizen of Great Britain and have never committed a crime, indeed I have no criminal record nor have ever been detained for any reason.
I am writing this e-mail to urge you to place due balance to the habeas corpus which I feel you are actively and purposely undermining. I disagree with your view that civil liberties should be reduced to prevent terrorism as the likelihood of suffering from a terrorist attack is negligible compared to the likelihood of a deterioration in my quality of life from an undermined habeas corpus.
I also disagree with your strategy of politicization of the British police force as I feel the police should answer to the people of the country and not those in power. I possess this opinion because politicized police forces across the world are a product of the most powerful dictatorships who enforce dictatorships.
I believe many of your actions and opinions whilst in power have been misguided at best. For some time now you have refused to listen to your own citizens (and subjects) and as you know, were re-elected for a second term from only a third of the country’s votes.
I also disagree with your support of the current American administration, whether to influence their politics or not as the current American administration are internationally regarded as fascists/war profiteers and clearly, you and your Cabinet have had little or no influence on American politics (even Al-jazeera was bombed).
Like the majority of your citizens (subjects) whose opinions you choose to ignore, I feel the so called ‘war on terror’ is an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation, once heavily supported by USA (when it suited their purpose), now a debacle of human greed, destruction and murder. I understand that Iraq was in contravention of United Nations resolutions and am also aware as evidenced by the Downing Street memos ‘the facts were being fixed around the policies’, the people of Great Britain were never 45 minutes from WMD. I, like the majority of our country, believe you deliberately lied and for this crime you must be impeached.
If you’d like to let Blair know what you think, go to;
http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/page821.asp
You will need to chose ‘Prime Minister’ from the drop-down menu, then select ‘go’, fill in your personal details (which allow comments from ‘United States’), add your comments in a ‘message’ box then finally select ’submit’. If all is successful you will receive a confirmation that your message has been received.
If anything goes awry, please contact the Downing Street web team at webmaster@pmo.gov.uk.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR E-MAILS POLITE! Erudite messages are read, illiterate/offensive messages are not.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:36 pmIn a related event, Fox News Tokyo is reporting new evidence that Japan won World War II…
February 27th, 2006 at 6:41 pm#12,
This is purely my speculation, but I would say that the reason they are revisiting the WMD issue now is an attempt to regain credibility. Such credibility is going to be necessary in order to sell an attack on Iran or Syria or both.
The methodology is the same as the run up to the Iraq invasion. A lie, or “untruth”, repeated enough times by enough sources then gains credibility through recognition. If, and I continue to speculate, this “untruth” gains traction, then the unthinking will trust the administration again because they will believe, once again, that Iraq had WMDs. I don’t see a another plausible explanation at the moment but I have learned not to underestimate the depths that this administration will plumb.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:41 pmWhy are the nut cases re-visiting the WMD issue? Anyone?
Must… not… let… the President… look… like… the biggest ass on the planet.
That, and a determined refusal to admit they were wrong about sending the country to war for what were, and still are, purely domestic political reasons.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:46 pmAn endless litany of lies and deceit from the right about Iraq.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:47 pmWhy are the nut cases re-visiting the WMD issue? Anyone?
Comment by Zookeeper — February 27, 2006 @ 6:32 pm
I agree with Optimist. The Bush administration is probably building the case for going after Syria, Iran, or both.
The pattern of deception is the same as with Iraq. It really doesn’t matter that Iraq was not a threat, there will always be the followers who will believe anything this administration spews.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:49 pmwatch:..just before the elections, bush gang will pull out all stops to help fellow repub.gang members. WMD’S FOUND!…and on and on. *Remember nixon pulled us out of Nam just BEFORE his re-election,and got re-elected. Nixon/Bush..no difference in republican tactics. It couldn’t save nixon, and won’t save bush and gang either, they never LEARN. “Fool me once…duh…fool something and shame on something…etc…he couldn’t even get the saying right.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:51 pmMyth #3
Syria sent the WMD to North Korea and they blew up in a train crash.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:53 pmhow many TONS of vx, anthrax, botchulinum toxin, ect, did powell say they had? how many planes would it take to move all that stuff? how volatile is that stuff? how many missiles and other illegal components did our intelligence speculate they had? how many tractor trailers would it take to move these things? how many satellites did we have focused on Iraq? i think we would have seen this mass exodus of trucks and planes with a telescope, forget the satellite!!
this is par for the course with these right wing zealots! no evidence. no identifiable eyewitnesses. just more “trust us, it is the truth”. haven’t we heard enough of this? who is buying this crap?
February 27th, 2006 at 6:59 pmGeorges Sada seems to have a bit more credibility than the NYC taxi drivers often quoted here at TP by the anti-Semites.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:00 pmOur
President
joked
about
not
finding
WMDs
to
reporters.
Didn’t the story end there?
February 27th, 2006 at 7:01 pmIf I wear an Israeli flag and jerk it to gay porn am I an anti-Semite? Or an anti-Semenite?
February 27th, 2006 at 7:03 pmPowerline is a joke, but it has a following so it is worth watching. That said, bringing this up isn’t going to help Bush.
The ‘Russian Special Forces’ would likely refer to the RUSSIAN TECHNICIANS who were evacuated from Iraq before the invasion. The Russians worked on Iraq’s various military systems, which were based on Soviet technology. Russia has no problems selling and servicing Russian equipment. It supports their state arms companies in that they make profits abroad to make weapons at home and then the silvoki can pocket the rest.
They miss the obvious point, though – Russia does not care about WMD. Their ‘cooperation’ with the west on WMD is essentially a joke and they use their veto in the Security Council to water down or prevent say Iran from being referred. It’s no coincidence that Russia wants a deal with Iran very badly – it’s a Russian reactor that’s at stake. Make that reactors if they get a deal.
Syria and Iraq also don’t get along. It’s unlikely that Assad would want that crap in his country, given that he already has chemical and biological weapons.
Another point is that there was no reason for Saddam to turn over his arsenal – he wouldn’t want to. If he knew he was going to lose he should have used them, not given them away. He held out in the first war because we weren’t going for Baghdad.
The 747 deal is CRAP. #1 Iraq had immense stockpiles of chemical/biological SHELLS, not just buckets of the agents. You would have to move ARTILLERY SHELLS in full view of satellites into a 747.
#2 Such shells were old. You don’t load old shells that go boom onto a 747. It’d only work if it was a liquid, powder, etc by itself.
#3 Iraq didn’t have any WMD:)
The Iraqi WMD threat was a very good move really. Iraq borders Iran. Iran hates the Sunni dominated preinvasion Iraq. If Iran realized that Iraq couldn’t hit it back with WMD – which Iran had – then there would be no stopping the revolutionary guards.
Destroying the WMD was cheaper than maintaining it. People think the agents somehow managed to stay stable for 15 years or more. It doesn’t work that way – the stuff gets old and won’t work as intended, i.e. it won’t kill large numbers of people. It would be like a regular shell that might kill people who got too close or touched the agent.
(Witness the one shell that was found)
We have a similar problem with our own stockpiles in that they become worthless over time. You have to invest alot of money into keeping the things stable and even then there’s a shelf life.
The Iraqi general could be telling the truth as he knows it. Hussein was trying to make sure everyone except his very inner circle knew he had WMD when he didn’t.
BTW Iraq had tons and tons of generals. Way more than can be justified by any army. There are lots of generals in Iraq – just because one is saying something doesn’t mean you should believe him. Generalships were basically a way to reward people.
Oh well. Powerline people can keep on buying the fantasy of WMD.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:03 pmI just saw this crap being spewed on the History Channel over the weekend. This idiot got his information from the DaVinci Codes. What a crock of shit. No wonder the GOP can’t govern.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:06 pmJames? You need a hobby. Aren’t you a stooge, anyway?
February 27th, 2006 at 7:07 pmThere were also constant AWACs recon flights over the area. Saddam wouldn’t have been able to get a sand flea across the Syrian border, much less a 747.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:08 pmI always find this tired canard hilarious…look at the beating Bush has taken over not finding WMD’s, especially during the last election. If the Bushies had been able to point to even suspicious evidence of this don’t you think they would have used it ad nauseum to “prove” that they were right to attack Iraq? The fact that the White House hasn’t trotted out this crap proves it is just that, crap.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:08 pm#24, more credibility? Than Charles Duefler? Come on MA, take the book back to Wal-Mart, they might give you a refund.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:13 pmJames – a thoughtful post.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:14 pmWouldn’t it be nice if the Powerline/Fox dopes would actually THINK about what they are claiming? Instead, they simply concoct a cockamamie plot that couldn’t have/wouldn’t have worked for practical reasons, but they know that a lot of people will never think it through that far, and so they will have won over a few teetering readers.
Brit Hume should be embarrassed, but I think the embarrassment emotion is excised before signing a Fox contract.
They can keep it up. “WMD” is now synonymous with everything bad about our government. Along with “Heckeva job”. Too funny!
February 27th, 2006 at 7:14 pm#23
You could not move all of Iraq’s supposed WMD using a 747. You also do not move shells that blowup on 747s (stacking artillery shells that are 15+ years old onto a plane?) They had, before they destroyed them, thousands upon thousands of chemical/biological artillery shells. You cannot just split these things apart and take the agent out and then stick it on a plane. It’s different than disposing of a shell because here you are after a stable chemical, etc. You would need a reprocessing facility in order to stabalize the agents for transport.
What would be the use of sending away unstable, worthless chemical agents? Syria can already make their own and they have WMD. Why would they want it when they already shunned their neighbor.
Also – when a shell is ’split’ for disposal the metal goes somewhere. It goes into the ground, to a scrapyard, etc. Kay looked for all of that. It all turned out to be old.
If they had been ’split’ recently you would be able to tell due to the condition of the areas of the shell that had been cut. Oxidation anyone? Weather patterns, etc.
This kind of massive undertaking would have not gone unnnoticed from the sky. It’s more difficult than just setting up some bedroom lab.
If Powerline believes it was just the PURE AGENTS that got shipped it would be pointless. Iraq could just as easily dispose of it itself.
In the end though the ‘proof’ that there were no WMD was that the US was not shelled with chemical agents. In the first gulf war Hussein didn’t need to – the US decided not to go to Baghdad. If he had the weapons and they had continued, they probably would have gotten shelled. It’s not like Hussein cared about his people.
And the US would also not use chemical weapons on them as it would cause massive civilian casualties and piss of the arabs around them. That was Hussein’s insurance and he lacked it the second time. In that way Bush the elder made a good choice – he realized that a stable peace and troops that don’t get shelled with WMD is a good thing.
I don’t think that missiles to Israel in Gulf #1 was a really difficult thing to interpret. At some point those SCUDS would have gotten armed with WMD, not conventional explosives. He was making a reminder.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:14 pmStephen Hayes at the Weekly Standard has been milking this theme for weeks, citing translations of a few dozen of the millions of pages of captured Iraqi intelligence documents — which he hasn’t seen, and which the Pentagon has so far refused to release to him. Needless to say, Hayes’ “impeccable sources” tell him that this stuff is dynamite. So every couple of days, he releases a new article wildly speculating on a variety of WMD phantasms that these documents will “most certainly” prove, if they exist and if they say what he vividly imagines they might say and if, in fact, he ever gets to see them.
As for the guy with the 12 hours of “secret Saddam tapes” — well, it’s hard to tell from the excerpted transcripts whether Saddam and his henchman are discussing active weapons programs, interior design or the over/under on Superbowl XXXI. Plus, he has somehat undermined his case by proclaiming that, during his time as an in-country WMD inspector, “God led him” to any number of WMD burial sites which “no doubt” housed the evil goods — except that no one else on the Iraq Survey team thought they were worth investigating, and the sites were never excavated.
Honestly, it’s getting harder and harder to ignore this overwhelming preponderence of hypothetical and non-existent evidence. If that facts don’t fit, you must acquit!
February 27th, 2006 at 7:15 pmMust… not… let… the President… look… like… the biggest ass on the planet.
Comment by David — February 27, 2006 @ 6:46 pm
Too… late… :)
February 27th, 2006 at 7:25 pm#20, Gregor and Optimist are on to it – the muddying of the waters for Iran and Syria…..
February 27th, 2006 at 7:26 pm#29
TP posting to avoid doing what I’m supposed to be doing, usually in the evening, is something I enjoy. My other hobby is economics and mind numbing math that’s associated with it.
Am I a stooge? Oh, yes, the fact that I disagree that DPW is the sole threat to our port security when it is external ports, private shippers, and our own internal security that is already doing it.
Apparently one is labeled a stooge if they happen to disagree on one issue? Hmm. My issue there is that instead of some REAL REFORM of our security, which would involve essentially controlling the security of every foreign port, monitoring the shipping lines and contract carriers, and then the domestic ports this is just some passing thing.
Which is sad. It shouldn’t be *just* about DPW, it should be about the whole shipping industry from the foreign ports, to the ships, to the US. Right now it’s about political points instead of some real reform.
Yes, I am aware that people are mentioning the deficiencies in port security. That fades away once the arabs get rejected. It’s the security of the entire ‘chain’ that is relevent, not just one ‘piece’.
It’s actually a bit sad that Bush didn’t do some fundamental reform after 9/11. As it is, you can get a nuke into the US on a container with no problem and ship it into a metro port – where you don’t have to leave the port or even the ship to cause mass casualties.
Actually for a list of my hobbies 1. I like to run, swim, bowl (hey, beer & socializing), and parties that are really an excuse to get drunk 2. local catholic charity 3. playing with my cats (if you just have one it’s lonely:)) 4. doing yard work 5. going on long vacations where I can find new hobbies. Ah #5 Amateur Rocketry (I use ‘L’ motors, ie, I belong to tripoli) It’s good for a kick every few months and a couple hundred down the drain.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:27 pmhmm, correction. If you have just one cat, the cat gets lonely. I have the gf to keep me company, although I think she gets jealous of the cats sometimes.
I’m also a sucker for animals. I’m vegan and volunteer for the humane society petsmart adoption slots. So I guess that’s an additional hobby. Heh.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:30 pm“I mean how else could Saddam move them to Syria right under the noses of the US who was watching their every move under a microscope.”
Comment by Abby — February 27, 2006 @ 6:30 pm
The Flying Dutchman is invisible to radar, sonar, thermal imaging, microwave imaging, and spy satellites; the perfect vehicle for weapons’ transfer – if wingnuts are going to fantasize, go whole hog I say.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:30 pmand now i’m told i need to start working. night all, enjoy the bizarre world that is powerline.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:31 pmThe missing weapons, those which were actual weapons (Scuds, warheads, artillery shells and chemical bombs) were used during GWI and during the Anfal campaign, to include the events at Halabja. Saddam could never admit to their use for fear of international legal repercussions. The USA would not admit to the use either, preferring to have one over their enemy whilst being in denial about Gulf War syndrome, a personal condition but one which could so easily become a national affair, as was its Vietnam counterpart. Saddam cleaned the cupboard out, so as to leave the US and its lackeys wanting and in need. Enter stage right Sada and Co, everyone has a price. Go read the ISG final report if you want proof, it includes the ‘real’ Saddam transcript, courtesy of the CIA. Regime Strategic Intent, Annex D.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:33 pm39- That is the infuriating part of the port story- a complete overlooking of underlying issues while everyone seems to be trying score points or CYA.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:36 pmSo more myths about the WMD?
R2K
February 27th, 2006 at 7:38 pm#26 – “If I wear an Israeli flag and jerk it to gay porn am I an anti-Semite? Or an anti-Semenite?”
February 27th, 2006 at 7:39 pmComment by You’re Safe. We know. We’re Spying On You.
****No – - it just means you are a pig who had a terrible upbringing…and will be whistling showtunes while rooting for “Brokeback Mountain”, “Capote” and “TransAmerica” to achieve an Oscar sweep.
bush’s approval rating, as of today, has dropped to 34%. Being a mathematician, and also educated in statistical analysis, that means that means that out of every 10 americans, 3.4 are as dumb as a bag of hammers.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:41 pm#32 – “more credibility? Than Charles Duefler? Come on MA, take the book back to Wal-Mart, they might give you a refund.” – Comment by Terrytheturtle —
February 27th, 2006 at 7:46 pm*****Turtle – I gave you too much credit. Chas Dulfeur reported on what he knew at the time – did he know everything there was to know??? Not likely. You may wish to expand your reading repertoire – I read all the crap from the left I can stomach, but mercifully, I have a cast-iron stomach.
I heard they were watching Long Dong Silverman.
February 27th, 2006 at 8:05 pmlet’s see…1400 inspectors working for 2 years at a cost of 300+ million dollars….you get what you pay for I guess
February 27th, 2006 at 8:10 pmOff topic but good;
John Harwood just said they are trying to keep Bush from looking likethe Barney Fife of national security.
They failed……………….
February 27th, 2006 at 8:10 pm#48 and an ex-Saddam air force general, looking to make a buck with sensational book who has two friends who said they saw those 1000s of tons of VX etc being loaded onto how many 747s to Syria? Powell said there were the following unaccounted for…
1. 4 tons of VX
2. conservative estimate of 500 tons of chemical agents
3. 8500 liters of anthrax
OK, the cargo capacity of a 747 is…116,000 lbs or about 50 tonnes. How many flights did this plane make – 10?
Come on, all you have is a rumor. Sorry, its missouri time – show me, but without invading Syria.
February 27th, 2006 at 8:12 pmOff topic, but I’m hoping I’m not just dreaming.
“Vice President Dick Cheney might retire within a year, shortly after the mid-term elections, according to senior Republican sources who spoke to Insight magazine.”
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49023
Somebody pinch me.
February 27th, 2006 at 8:20 pm#53, Fitzgerald must be getting close…
February 27th, 2006 at 8:28 pmLily, even if we are deprived of seeing his charming countenance now and then on the TV, never fear, he will continue his nefarious machinations behind the scenes as he Edgar Bergen, controls the Bush puppet, Charlie McCarthy.
February 27th, 2006 at 8:29 pmDick Cheny always seems to drop hints about retiring when things get hot – I guess he hopes that if he retires, he won’t be prosecuted for war crimes? Dream on.
February 27th, 2006 at 8:33 pmSomebody pinch me.
Comment by Lily — February 27, 2006 @ 8:20 pm
Good news. Save us the cost of Impeachment, trial and due process.
I wonder if it also isn’t a tactic to wind up with a fresh new V.P. who is young, untarnished, and interested in running for President in 2008…?
I just don’t trust these people.
February 27th, 2006 at 8:34 pmThe story of Iraqi WMD being moved to Syria was discredited a long time ago, so those who keep pushing it are goofy nuts!
February 27th, 2006 at 8:40 pm“Vice President Dick Cheney might retire within a year, shortly after the mid-term elections, according to senior Republican sources who spoke to Insight magazine.â€
Comment by Lily — February 27, 2006 @ 8:20 pm
After he “retires” how long is it going to take to wash the smell off his arm after he removes it from the base of Bush’s spine where he both provided some extra stiffness while giving George ventriloquisn lessons on air.
February 27th, 2006 at 9:14 pmHaliburton is currently in WMD production that will be planted in Iraq just before the elections.
February 27th, 2006 at 9:16 pmHeadline: WMD found, Bush was right!
So what they’re trying to say, is all these WMD’s that could kill millions of people, and be launched at the US in 30 minutes were moved, and since they aren’t in Iraq’s hands, but our good friends in Syria, they are ok to be there?
If this were true, doesn’t it make the case even stronger that Bush wanted to invade Iraq, since nobody in this administration seems to care less that any of these WMD’s are still out there.
Preposterous.
February 27th, 2006 at 9:22 pmMyth #2 has another gotcha.
Bush said Iran should have the right to use nuclear energy, and as a solution for the waste, it should be shipped to Russia.
Why would Bush conclude the nuclear waste is safe in Russia, if Russia shipped Iraq’s WMD to Syria; that just doesn’t make sense. But I suppose it makes as much sense as rewarding the UAE with known ties with the 9/11 hijackers and money laudering the hijackers money, with our east coast ports.
Bush backs Russian plan for Iran:
February 27th, 2006 at 9:51 pmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4652286.stm
Dick Cheny always seems to drop hints about retiring – all that means is whoever is VP will be primed for the 2008 elections. We all knew Cheney didn’t have enough life in him for another 8 years (batteries will wear out on his defibrillator). What a grand scheme…
You think Cheney would believe in and promote stem cell research, if heart muscle could be grown to repair a damaged heart? It always seems when a problems affects a Republican personally they sing a different tune.
February 27th, 2006 at 9:58 pm#
Off topic, but I’m hoping I’m not just dreaming.
“Vice President Dick Cheney might retire within a year, shortly after the mid-term elections, according to senior Republican sources who spoke to Insight magazine.â€
http://worldnetdaily.com/ news/ article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49023
Somebody pinch me.
Comment by Lily — February 27, 2006 @ 8:20 pm
Lily I ran that story by Wll Brunch at attytd and he sent me the ollowing rely;
Yeah, I thought about doing something but then some other reports have knocked it down. I agree with one report that Bush would want to keep Cheney because he wants to keep open the possibility of Jeb running in ‘08. Thanks.
Will
February 27th, 2006 at 10:03 pmThat is attytood;
homepage;
http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/
February 27th, 2006 at 10:05 pmWhen Saddam’s son-in-law Kamal defected, he also told us the WMD were destroyed, under his charge. Ray McGovern mentions this in the goood Greenwald documentary Uncovered: The Whole Truth About the Iraq War .
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=130094
February 28th, 2006 at 12:59 amTHE MISERABLE FAILURE BORN AGAIN AS A MISERABLE FAILURE
Personally, I’ve never heard of the acutely bizarre necessity for having a PLAN FOR VICTORY _after_ MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
And what was that PLAN FOR VICTORY again? Quick, OBERSTURMFUHRER KARL, fire up your PowerPoint.
And what the definition of VICTORY… to turn the rest of the world into a CHARNEL HOUSE of death, mutilation and torture, while drowning, raping and looting your own country at the same time?
If that was the definition, well then, the MISERABLE FAILURE BORN AGAIN AS A MISERABLE FAILURE has succeeded magnificantly.
February 28th, 2006 at 2:21 amSo where are they?
February 28th, 2006 at 7:46 amSo absence of evidence IS evidence of absence. Interesting. How logic has changed in the last five years.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:59 pmGood for the Assrocket!
March 1st, 2006 at 12:54 amRidiculous, but what else have we come to expect from Assrocket. Apparently there are still people in this country that don’t realize that we and the Brits had control of the skies over Iraq for the dozen years between Iraq wars, and that Kurdistan was a quasi-autonomous region outside Saddam’s control.
The Downing Street Minutes killed this little illusion for good – for everyone except I suppose Americans, who seem unaware that they pretty much meant the jig was up in the rest of the world. Yes, those videos of Colin and Condi in 2001 bragging about how Saddam had been contained were those rare instances of the Colin and Condi Minstrel Act actually telling the truth.
Game over, Assrocket. Oh, wait. The game was over in 2003, when a million people marched in pre-protest of the war they knew was coming, because even then the majority of the world’s population knew it was built on lies.
Get with the program, America. You’re falling behind in everything.
March 1st, 2006 at 10:36 pm[...] First, and certainly most important, you have to understand that the U.S. government has already destroyed the Shaw account. They put no faith in it. As Think Progress so nicely puts it: Charles Duelfer, the White House’s hand-picked W.M.D. investigator, found in a 92-page report that “no information gleaned from questioning Iraqis supported the possibility†that Saddam moved WMD to Syria. [...]
March 6th, 2006 at 11:23 am[...] Powerline Pushes WMD Conspiracy Theories Think Progress, DC – Feb 27, 2006 Yesterday, Powerline blog published a post called Saddam Had WMD. John Hinderaker a frequent guest on CNN said there is recently discovered [...]
March 14th, 2006 at 10:47 amAfter seeing this (retired) Gen on Daily Show, I was ready to re-enter research mode on this … but – save yourselves the trouble – read:
The Holmes Blog
Fact Check On General Georges Sada’s Tall Tales
Thank you, Mr. Philip Holmes. I wish I had found your writeup before wasting time reading the Amazon wingnuttia reviews from the christia-nuttia crowd that published the book and pays for the guy’s speaking engagements!
May 28th, 2006 at 8:45 pm[...] Originally Posted by ilikeGW Saddam general: WMDs in Syria MYTH – Saddam Flew WMD to Syria: Fox News reporter Brit Hume reported, "The number two general in Saddam Hussein’s air force says Iraq moved its weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the U.S. invasion." Georges Sada, the former general referenced in Hume’s report, laid out the idea in his new book, "Saddam’s Secrets." Sada claims Saddam used 747 jets "to smuggle his WMD out of Iraq and into Syria, following a natural disaster in northwestern Syria on June 4, 2002." But Sada admits he never saw it happen. Instead, Sada’s two pilot friends are the only witnesses, and Sada said he will not disclose the names of the pilots. Think Progress » Powerline Pushes WMD Conspiracy Theories [...]
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