72% of U.S. Troops Want Out of Iraq Within One Year
72% of U.S. Troops Want Out of Iraq Within One Year
Bush says pulling out of Iraq would undermine our troops’ morale:
It is also important for every American to understand the consequences of pulling out of Iraq before our work is done. … We would undermine the morale of our troops by betraying the cause for which they have sacrificed. [12/18/05]
U.S. troops say they want out of Iraq within a year:
A new poll to be released today shows that U.S. soldiers overwhelmingly want out of Iraq — and soon. The poll is the first of U.S. troops currently serving in Iraq, according to John Zogby, the pollster. Conducted by Zogby International and LeMoyne College, it asked 944 service members, “How long should U.S. troops stay in Iraq?” Only 23 percent backed Mr. Bush’s position that they should stay as long as necessary. In contrast, 72 percent said that U.S. troops should be pulled out within one year. Of those, 29 percent said they should withdraw “immediately.” [NYT, 2/28/06]
American Progress has a plan that will drawdown the U.S. troop presence in Iraq within one year. If the troops support it, why can’t their Commander-in-Chief?
UPDATE: Zogby poll results here.
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February 28th, 2006 at 7:45 amGOOD ON THE TROOPS WELL DONE………….
Congratulations listen to the troop bring them HOME NOW
February 28th, 2006 at 7:49 amIs this a case of the troops not “supporting the troops”? Why O why does the Army hate America?
Seriously though, every US soldier is aware of the fact that they are killing people who had nothing to do with 9/11 and were never a threat to our national security. Not all soldiers enjoy the sport of shooting down unarmed and helpless brown people with the passion of Cheney shooting down pen raised quail.
Besides, the Nuremberg Principles still apply.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:00 amMy troop friend returned last September and he still can’t get a good night’s sleep. He is Reserves and a Medic. Now he’s seeking PSTD therapy and the VA is denying him saying that since he never fired his weapon he never saw combat, and since we was never in combat he is not eligilbe for VA services.
The GOP supports our troops? I know they don’t, the lying bastards.
We Liberals support our troops far more:
We didn’t want ‘em sent in the first place,
We wanted them sent in adequate numbers,
We wanted them sent with appropriate equipment, especially armor,
We wanted them well taken care of,
We wanted them to NOT torture Iraqis so that they them selves would not face torture,
We wanted them to receive better pay and benefits while the GOP was cutting them off,
We wanted them to get all the care they required when they returned.
The GOP has consistently been against all of that.
Liberals support our troops, the GOP never, ever has!
Yet the Conservative Media has been telling the US the opposite of the demonstrable truth, saying that to want the troops home is ‘treasonous’, and even attacking truth-speaking veterans as being so as well.
Now what? Does the Conservative Media, ABCBSNBCMSNBCNNFNC, go on the offensive and tell the US that all 130,000 active duty troops are all traitors?
Remember folks, we Liberals support out troops and the GOP does not.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:01 amHistory repeating itself, VET NAM II. Dieing for NOTHING. Next it’s time to IMPEACH and start the very long road of repairing all the damage from bushco. Cheney will pardon bush, like ford did. and go quiet as the dust settles blaming it all on bush.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:02 amHow will the administration spin this one?
The troops are battle fatigued and they don’t know what there talking about… no no wait that won’t work.
How about – this is all a part of Operation False Sense of Confidence (OFSC). By pretending that they want to go home, the troops a filling the insurgents with a false sense of confidence – therefore making them easier to kill…that’s it Operation False Sense of Confidence. Mission Accomplished!
February 28th, 2006 at 8:04 amhttp://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/20/democrats_may_unite_on_plan_to_pull_troops/
The concept, dubbed ‘’strategic redeployment,”
this says redeployment does that mean they retire to the permanent military basis in IRAQ
February 28th, 2006 at 8:07 amThroughout my life, I have worked with or dated men who have served in every single war from Korea through present.
Every single one of them returned damaged for the atrocities they had seen. And these were strong men. As a result, they were staunchly anti-war.
I think a new requirement of our President should be that he or she has served during a war. Those who haven’t, seem all to willing to start them. And it’s not fair to those who enlist to serve our country for all the right reasons. Oil is never one of them. I’d rather walk.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:28 am#7: The plan, Strategic Redeployment, specifically states that permanent U.S. bases should not be built in Iraq. From the report:
You can read the plan here:
February 28th, 2006 at 8:30 amhttp://www.americanprogress.org/atf/cf/%7BE9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03%7D/redeployment.pdf
#6 – “How will the administration spin this one?”
More calumny and mendacity. OFSC is a great acronym!
Constant repeating of “We support the troops!” as if repeating it will magically make it become true. Pres. Bush failed the troops when he refused to raise the budget of the VA to meet the demand he’s creating by the wars for oil. Sec. Rumsfeld failed the troops when he didn’t ensure the proper armor was available to the troops and their vehicles.
I’m sure most self-described Republicans support the troops, but very few of them actually sign up for military duty.
Most of the Veterans that are running for office in the mid-terms are running as Democrats. That’s a good slogan: “Pres. Bush & the GOP: their policies encourage our Veterans to run as Democrats!”
February 28th, 2006 at 8:31 am#8 – I would add the addendum: anyone who has their father cajole the speaker of the state House to secure a National Guard assignment for their son so they don’t have to serve in the active military would automatically be disqualified. Also, all military records will be released to the public so they can make an informed decision about the moral fortitude of the candidate and their ability to serve their time fully and completely.
This would have kept Pres. Bush from being selected by SCOTUS in 2000.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:34 amThis poll along with Bush and Cheneys “approval” ratings have yet to garner more than a sound byte this morning. Have been watching the news since 7am,and it seems fat tuesday in New Orleans is far more important than troop frustration,abysmal poll numbers,and this administration once again caught lying about how many died in Iraqs civil war. How did lying about a blow job enrage the country and none of this even causes mild outrage????
February 28th, 2006 at 8:58 amTwo questions:
February 28th, 2006 at 8:59 am1)Why wait a whole year?
2)With Iran, Syria, Venezuala, East Asia and Oceania all threatning, and the Chimp’s finger on the button…how am I supposed to see an improvement in troop redeployment?
Can we now call King George a lame duck commander in chief?
February 28th, 2006 at 9:01 amLook at how this question is phrased–
American Progress has a plan that will drawdown the U.S. troop presence in Iraq within one year. If the troops support it, why can’t their Commander-in-Chief?
Right or wrong, the last time I checked, the troops are subordinates which do not give orders to the Commander-in- Chief.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:03 am#12 as to the polls
Cheney ….18%
Blair…….28%
Bush……….34%
Now you can se why bush thinks heain’tgot problem….LOL
February 28th, 2006 at 9:08 amRight or wrong, the last time I checked, the troops are subordinates which do not give orders to the Commander-in- Chief.
Comment by Antagonist — February 28, 2006 @ 9:03 am
Except at the bllot box….like the rest ofus.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:12 am#15″:American Progress has a plan that will drawdown the U.S. troop presence in Iraq within one year. If the troops support it, why can’t their Commander-in-Chief?
Right or wrong, the last time I checked, the troops are subordinates which do not give orders to the Commander-in- Chief.
Comment by Antagonist — February 28, 2006 @ 9:03 am”
The point is that now Bush cannot speak for them, or use what they are supposedly thinking to justify his Iraq policy.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:16 am#15 – Why is it you wingnuts are in love with the Nuremberg defense?
February 28th, 2006 at 9:16 amSo now people like I-Right-I and person of interest need to hustle on down to the local recruiting office and do their patriotic duty to replace the brave men & women who have put their lives on the line for so long in this war based on lies.
C’mon boys, it’s time to put up or shut up.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:20 am“Only 23 percent backed Mr. Bush’s position that they should stay as long as necessary. In contrast, 72 percent said that U.S. troops should be pulled out within one year. Of those, 29 percent said they should withdraw “immediately.†[NYT, 2/28/06]”
Breaking News: Update:
Throughout history grunts have bitched about doing their job. There is no such thing as a popular war to the guys on the ground. This is why the army ain’t no democracy.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:23 amWell I have one thing to say to all those US troops. Cowards cut and run.
-Mean Jean Shultz(R-Eastwick)
February 28th, 2006 at 9:24 amI-Right is so doped up with Kool-Aid that his first response is to attack the troops in order to defend Bush/Rove.
Pathetic.
Why do you hate the troops?
-GSD
February 28th, 2006 at 9:27 amSo I-R-I, I take it you speak from personal experience as a grunt on the ground? If not, I suggest you sign up and go get that experience first hand, rather than shilling for the money-grubbing liars who put these brave people in the life & death situations.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:27 amre: #15
Frighteningly, I agree with you. The troops are paid to do what they are told no matter what their opinion is. However, they have every right to disagree with their commander, they just can’t act on it. Not re-enlisting is the only action that they can take. Most folks in the military are loyal to their brother-in-arms during a time of war so re-enlistment is more likely than not. This creates quite a conundrum for those that are against the war, but supporters of the military by being a part of it.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:31 amDemocrats, liberals, progressives support the troops.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:33 amRepublicans, conservatives, warmongers use the troops.
Americans are slow to awaken, but eventually their feet hit the floor.
IRI you do not know what the Hell you are talking about, I have been there you have not, so STFU
February 28th, 2006 at 9:37 amTroops in Iraq see the futility of their efforts. Civil war in which they cannot/must not participate. Disrespect by the brass and civilian leaders. It’s demoralizing them and not surprising that they are supporting withdrawal, but as soldiers, they are committed to following orders, so it is up to those at home to come to their support.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:38 amCan’t pull out of Iraq! Nosirree
The price of oil would drop fifteen bucks a barrel.
Are those troops retarded? Whatsamatta with ‘em?
February 28th, 2006 at 9:42 am[...] Kevin Zeese popped me an e-mail this morning with the heads-up about an article he will be publishing later today. It stems from this NYT article by Nicholas Kristoff which indicates that 72% of American troops in Iraq should be withdrawn within a year. For some reason, I can’t access my TimesSelect account at the moment (I’m on the road right now), so I’ll provide the pertinent blockquote from Think Progress: A new poll to be released today shows that U.S. soldiers overwhelmingly want out of Iraq — and soon. The poll is the first of U.S. troops currently serving in Iraq, according to John Zogby, the pollster. Conducted by Zogby International and LeMoyne College, it asked 944 service members, “How long should U.S. troops stay in Iraq?†Only 23 percent backed Mr. Bush’s position that they should stay as long as necessary. In contrast, 72 percent said that U.S. troops should be pulled out within one year. Of those, 29 percent said they should withdraw “immediately.†[...]
February 28th, 2006 at 9:43 am#13 – we’re Oceania. Go back and read 1984 and there are some uncanny coincidences. First, Oceania consists of the Americas and the UK (Iraq, anyone?). Eurasia is Europe and the USSR, and Eastasia is China and Japan. But all the fighting takes place in Northern Africa and Southern Asia, you know, basically, the Muslim world.
Then of course there are the similarities between Ingsoc’s governing principles and the Bush administration: permanent war to instill fear, patriotism, and dependency on the government; the ability to change history in mid-sentence; the suppression of dissenting thoughts…
February 28th, 2006 at 9:48 amI cant wait to hear the WH spin on this!
February 28th, 2006 at 9:49 amwow, great job with the poll.
We would never hear this on the Moronic Media.
Remember when Murtha said we didn’t wanna get in the middle of a civil war?
And stupid asses like Brit Hume had a cow over it?
Well, whattaya think now.
Nobody wants our troops to get in the Middle of a Civil war.
The Shia and Pesh Mergas own the country, they can defend it.
Sunnis know what they have to do, start acting like they are 20% and not the Saddam Bullies they are used to being.
I say troops down to 30K by November.
Thanks again for the great info, we are with the troops, glad their voices are being heard.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:56 amSeriously though, every US soldier is aware of the fact that they are killing people who had nothing to do with 9/11 and were never a threat to our national security.
Actually, according to this Zogby poll, most of the troops want out of Iraq soon, but 90% also believe Saddam played a role in 9-11.
http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
While the troops may not believe they are killing people who are threats to national security, they are still apparently under the illusion that Saddam was a threat to national security, because he was an “ally of al Qaeda”. They must think the initial rationale for war was legit. Are they in for a rude awakening if they find out the truth.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:05 amSince when do we care whether the troops want to fight a war or stay at home with their families? If they are decent Americans–or just decent humans–they would rather be home with the fam every time.
If anyone has documentation of “The Greatest Generation” leaving home to go to bootcamp saying things like, “Take that Ma and Pa! I’m going to WAR!” or writing home from Europe, “Hopefully we’ll fight a nice long drawn out war here in Germany, then, after burning the place to the ground, we’ll push on through to the frozen wastes of Russia. I miss you Ma, I do, but the trenches are just so much cozier than home,” I’d love to see it.
I want us out of Iraq. I want every soldier we sent to walk home–not be carried home, not be shipped home in a box, but walk home. I want peace in Iraq.
But a survey of whether the soldiers like their bunkers better than their beds at home? That really is the most assinine statistic I have seen.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:10 amBut a survey of whether the soldiers like their bunkers better than their beds at home? That really is the most assinine statistic I have seen. by Parker
That would be an asinine question, but it was also not the question. The question was “do you want to stay the course and leave when the president deems necessary or do you want to leave within a year?”
Contrary to administration claims that the troops want to adhere to some open-ended, nebulous goal of leaving Iraq “when the job is done”, most want out of Iraq within a fixed time-span, i.e within a year. That is a big story. No amount of misrepresentation and straw-men will change that reality.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:14 amI think we should start pulling out the troops immediately > have the pullout completed by July at the latest! Best just to walk away from the Iraq debacle! The Oil Cartels can hire a mercenary army to try to keep the petroleum fields in their control, but NOT our troops!
February 28th, 2006 at 10:24 amIRI you do not know what the Hell you are talking about, I have been there you have not, so STFU
Comment by Clif
So only people who’ve been there know anything about war and soldiers?
Nobody WANTS to be in a war. Nobody WANTS to serve in a third world shit hole. I didn’t say they would not do their duty. I’ll shut the fuck up when I’m damned good and ready or the Filthy Left who is working hard to demoralize our troops and give aid and comfort to our enemy are dead or locked up. Like I said, “If I didn’t fear God…”
February 28th, 2006 at 10:38 amAnd when those troops finally do leave, just like Gulf War I, over half of them will be on permanent disability, because of Gulf War Syndrome, otherwise known as Depleted Uranium. There’s only one thing worse than being a US soldier in Iraq and that’s being an Iraqi who has to stay in his poisoned country.
The WMDs are in Iraq now, they crossed the border on the first day, fired by American tanks. Depleted Uranium the WMD that keeps on giving…
February 28th, 2006 at 10:50 am#21 I-RIGHT-I
You’re exactly right. I used to be in the Air Force–most of the enlisted people I’ve encountered complained about their jobs. Guys working in the hospital wished thy were on the flight line, guys on the flight line wished they were jet engine mechanics…you get the picture. Polling the troops acomplishes nothing, unless you want skewed results to make your point.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:53 am#39 Seems a lot of the troops have joined with the filthy left as you call them, and as for fearing God you don’t or you would not post some of what you post, sorry about Bushco’s and your sorry ass luck.
Oh and BTW…..STFU.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:56 amWhat is really F%$# up about all of this is that now that the situation in Iraq has begun to spin hopelessly out of control, we are finally getting the necessary support from our troops and the American public to bring the boys back home.
Over 1300 Iraqis killed last week. This is a Civil War!
I can think of nothing shittier than to go in, stir up the hornets nest, and then leave when they start stinging. Unfortunately, this is the option we are left with.
God Damn you George Bush… you Short-Sited Murderous Idiot!!!
February 28th, 2006 at 10:57 amAntagonist wrote: “Right or wrong, the last time I checked, the troops are subordinates which do not give orders to the Commander-in-Chief.”
He is correct. The President doesn’t HAVE to take suggestions from the military, especially from the enlisted soldiers who are dying for his war for oil. It would be incredibly stupid of him to completely ignore the opinions of the average servicemembers, though.
What it all boils down to is that the republican pary are doing their best to destory the functionality of the military as a figting force. They don’t care about the military, other than to fight & die.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:58 amfree?not I borrowed your posts for a response to IRI, on the second term free fall thread, thanks,
February 28th, 2006 at 11:13 amPolling the troops acomplishes nothing, unless you want skewed results to make your point.
Comment by Antagonist
The poll is intended to frustrate the American people and demoralize the troops. America must lose.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:14 amNo IRI BUSHCO must lose for America to win.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:15 amfree? not:( – Although I like the sentiment – this is still Crazy Biblical Jibber Jabber.
I think that it would be good for the world to start putting less trust in Arcane Text and more trust in Scientific Text.
Maybe then we could avoid these Holy-Wars?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:16 am#44 you said–
What it all boils down to is that the republican pary are doing their best to destory the functionality of the military as a figting force. They don’t care about the military, other than to fight & die.
It’s stupid comments like this that make you sound like a bunch of kooks. How you can come to a conclusion like this is beyond me… I can only shake my head at your inability to process information.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:18 amLack of spare parts anywhere but Iraq, national guard units leaving their equipment in Iraq with no replacement, stop-loss, underfunding veterans care(damages moral)…..
February 28th, 2006 at 11:22 amI Right I – You are a Genius! Since you have it all figured out maybe you should just log off and revel in your Geniusness.
The rest of us will stay here and continue to struggle with putting words together in coherent sentences.
Godspeed I Right I!!!
February 28th, 2006 at 11:22 amWE BROKE IT, WE FIX IT!
As Perot stated, war ain’t cheap and to cut and run would show the world that the US went in without a plan and is too gutless to do the job right. And when we leave, there should be no permanent bases if Iraq is to be a true sovereign state.
A massive war tax to do the job right should serve as a lesson to everyone in this country.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:30 am#55 starting with the neo-cons at about 95% rate to teach them wars cost.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:31 am#55, a salute for proposing an unpalatable solution to the ‘Desperate Housewives’ generation. But you missed something – wouldn’t NOT removing the administration by as quickly as possible, by election of preferably by impeachment (or revolution) be like agreeing to give the Captain of the Titanic a second chance and buying first class to boot?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:35 am#52 – Antagonist wrote: “How you can come to a conclusion like this is beyond me…”
Simple: I look at the Republicans who labeled Max Cleland as “soft on terror” and “doesn’t support the troops”, and just switched the party names. Fmr. Sen. Cleland lost both legs and part of one arm while serving in Vietnam. The shrill harpy, Ann Coulter, made the claim he did it on purpose.
Once I hear you hold your party members to the same standard you hold the Think Progress members, THEN I’ll consider your statements as something other than bloviations of a morally bankrupt party that hates the military. Pres. Bush’s inability to properly fund the VA and the national Guard, and Sec. Rumsfeld’s inability to properly armor the troops and their vehicles is all the proof needed to show how much the Republican party is trying to destroy our military’s ability to safeguard our country.
By the way, when did you serve in the military?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:35 amI think the most demoralizing bit of news for our troops is the fact that they STILL don’t have proper armor for our forces. The fact they STILL don’t have proper armor for their fighting vehicles is another indictment of the criminal behavior of the current administration.
Based on their actions, the Republican party doesn’t care vary much about our troops. Insufficient VA and National Guard funding, and more tax cuts for the top 1%. Based in these priorities, the Republicans simply don’t care for the troops at all. Other than to send more money to China by buying multiple magnetic ribbons to put on their car.
Actions speak louder than bumper stickers!
February 28th, 2006 at 11:40 am[...] Poll Details…Â [...]
February 28th, 2006 at 11:41 amThis would have kept Pres. Bush from being selected by SCOTUS in 2000.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — February 28, 2006 @ 8:34 am
Wouldn’t that have been nice….
February 28th, 2006 at 11:55 amThroughout history grunts have bitched about doing their job. There is no such thing as a popular war to the guys on the ground. This is why the army ain’t no democracy.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 9:23 am
What war did you serve in again?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:56 amThe American Progress Plan is based on faulty premises, won’t work, and the description of it is misleading.
1. Faulty premises. ““The Bush administration’s numerous mistakes – sending in too few troops and not providing proper guidance or equipment as well as its frequent changes in the strategy for Iraq’s political transition and reconstruction” The mistake was invading Iraq, NOT in HOW we invaded.
2.Won’t work. The AP plan calls for removing 80,000 troops (of the 140,000 total) in 2006, while training Iraqi military forces. THIS ESSENTIALLY IS BUSH’S PLAN– WE STAND UP WHY THEY STAND DOWN. Careful observers on the ground have fully described how this Iraqi-ization isn’t working, and won’t work. We’ve been there three years and there is still NO Iraqi army battalion that can operate independently. The plan also calls for pumping MORE MONEy into “democratization” of people who are separated into unreconcilable ethnic, tribal and religious groups.
3. MisleadingThe pont of this thread is that 72% of the troops want to come out this year, and American Progress has a plan that will drawdown the U.S. troop presence in Iraq within one yearBUT the plan actually says a little more than HALF should come out this year.
The AP plan also calls for 20,000 more of our troops to go to the Afghanistan sinkhole. Hello: The Russians can tell you about that miserable opium-growing tribally-conflicted place.
Get out now–within a month. Just do it.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:59 amWHILE–not WHY. Phonetically close, anyhow.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:01 pm#62 – Based on “Right between the I’s” bitching, he MUST have served.
Based on his political party, however, he didn’t serve a day in any uniform other than maybe Boy Scouts.
What “Right between the I’s” is implying is that it’s the job of the military to fight our wars. Their opinions don’t matter, and they should just shut the hell up and go sacrifice their lives for oil. In fact, any opinion they might have should be screwed out of them by under funding the VA, not providing sufficient body armor and not properly armoring the vehicles they are using in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Looks like Pres. Bush is doing just that! What a way to improve the morale of our troops! Under fund their services, under-armor the troops, and under-armor their vehicles!
New Republican motto: screwing our troops and blaming the Democrats!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:04 pmthe 23% who want to stay are probably in the green zone
February 28th, 2006 at 12:08 pmHow did lying about a blow job enrage the country and none of this even causes mild outrage????
Two words, that tie directly with every issue you have raised: ECHO CHAMBER.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:08 pm#67 – You’re right on the money!
Could you imagine the howling and screaming by the Republican party and their talking heads if a Democratic President had tried to do anything that Pres. Bush has done?
There would already be impeachment hearings in progress!
Of course, since it’s a Republican President, it’s all just fine and dandy. “Go ahead and screw the troops some more, Pres. Bush! Who cares about their opinion anyway? They’re not part of the 1% that we’re pandering to, so tell them to shut the h3ll up and die already!”
Yeah, the Republicans can’t wait to screw the military even more than they already have.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:15 pmRight or wrong, the last time I checked, the troops are subordinates which do not give orders to the Commander-in- Chief.
Last time I checked, the troops do not have to follow orders that break the law. And if your troops no longer want to be in the fight, what you going to do? Conscription? Seriously, this risks breaking the military as a fighting force. If people don’t want to sign up as a result of seeing how those already in the service are being treated, i.e. multiple involuntary tours in a combat zone, stop-loss back door draft, insufficient equipment, contractors getting far more pay than troops for the same work, etc., etc., etc., how are you going to maintain the military? We are still, nominally at least, a democracy. Going out to fight the “king’s” wars for empire should never enter the equation.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:16 pmWhat war did you serve in again?
Comment by unbelievable
WWIII, I’m still serving.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:22 pmLOS ANGELES TIMES– FEB 28
Soldiers Caught Between 2 Sides
Americans in Iraq walk a fine line as they try to keep the peace amid sectarian strife.
“For the American soldiers it was an unfamiliar role. They found themselves in the middle of a fight they could only partially comprehend, stuck between two sides on the edge of civil war. This was an Iraqi problem, their commanders told them. The solution would have to be Iraqi as well.” YES!!!GET THEM OUT NOW!!!
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-patrol28feb28,0,2550507.story?coll=la-home-headlines
February 28th, 2006 at 12:22 pm34- Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11, most don’t blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks
Damn, I wouldn’t have believed it was that bad if I hadn’t read it. That’s worse than the PIPA survey. Epiphanies shouldn’t involve that much death and carnage.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:23 pmYou once again are completely missing the point. You fvcking right wingers come here all the time spouting how the troops are behind Bush 100%. Well, they are not.
You should be forced to join the military and go kill innoncent people, so it rides your conseince forever.
Jerk.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:26 pm#70 – here is a photo of I-R-I
February 28th, 2006 at 12:34 pmWWIII, I’m still serving.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 12:22 pm
Question was rhetorical. But okay. Funny. Yet scary. So, funny and scary at the same time. That’s a new trick for you. Been practicing? :)
February 28th, 2006 at 12:35 pm#58
February 28th, 2006 at 12:37 pmFrom 1980-1988
What war did you serve in again?
Comment by unbelievable
WWIII, I’m still serving.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 12:22 pm
Funny, even bush doesn’t claim that yet. You should run for president, or something you can handle, but since the cats give you a run for your money, even while they win, and you can’t do the 2 push ups for the cub scouts, you’ll still have to remain a legend in your own mind.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:37 pm#70 – here is a photo of I-R-I
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — February 28, 2006 @ 12:34 pm
And a description…
‘IRI believes everything he sees on the “The X-Files,” as well as many other conspiracies. He doesn’t trust any large organizations, with the possible exception of the American Tobacco Institute. Among the things IRI knows for a fact are L. Ron Hubbard was killed by fire ants and Bob Dole is faking that dead arm.’
February 28th, 2006 at 12:37 pmyou’ll still have to remain a legend in your own mind.
Comment by Clif — February 28, 2006 @ 12:37 pm
So, are you two boys actually going to meet?
February 28th, 2006 at 12:38 pm[...] Update: In other news, not only do we operate in a civilian-controlled military, but instruments of war in a non-command capacity are usually not in a position of big-picture strategic decisions such as reducing troop numbers, redeploying forces, restructuring tactics, etc. My opinion of polling the troops would be the same regardless of their prescription (e.g. if they said we should stay forever). [...]
February 28th, 2006 at 12:39 pm#79 I keep offering to meet up and go to his ‘Angry Sons of the Confederacy’ meetings together or maybe just take his pick-up out to drag a few immigrants down a dirt road – so far not taken up.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:42 pm#79, I think Adolf likes being in the ‘Fighting 101st Keyboards’ out here fighting whatever war he is fighting in his own mind. He will go postal eventually, I have no doubt.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:43 pmSo, are you two boys actually going to meet?
Comment by unbelievable — February 28, 2006 @ 12:38 pm
When I get to Texas if he sends me an address, I have no problem sitting down duscussing different opinions, this particular genre is actually limiting for actual exchange of ideas.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:46 pmWhy don’t we review for a second the boogeymen and boogywomen under Adolf’s bed:
I hate the French, they pretty much invented the Filthy Left.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:46 pmComment by I-RIGHT-I — October 1, 2005 @ 10:28 pm
Hey, what does a Mexcian know about ethics anyway?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 25, 2005 @ 12:41 pm
I think the lesson here is that if you can’t say something nice about the Negro in New Orleans, don’t say anything at all.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 7, 2005 @ 9:43 am
[Mexican corruption] is a problem but nothing a little Puritan Fundamentalist Christianity couldn’t cure. Ever notice that everything the Catholics touch turns to shit?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 22, 2005 @ 2:17 pm
Left wing non religious Jews are the problem. Period. I wonder if the Germans had the same problem with y’all?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — October 20, 2005 @ 4:04 pm
There’s nothing wrong with the South that a few thousand dangling from the nearest light pole Leftists wouldn’t cure.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 4, 2005 @ 1:08 pm
We need more women in the kitchen cooking dinner.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 1, 2005 @ 2:47 pm
[Women should NOT vote] Because they f e e l , they don’t think. There are exceptions to the rule and they all agree with me.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 2, 2005 @ 5:39 pm
That’s right. The Negroes (not all) still have a problem with that civilization thing and they (not all)aren’t worth a shit at picking leaders.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 8, 2006 @ 1:31 pm
It was the Republicans in congress that moved the American Negro out of the era of Jim Crow and into the Super Bowl.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 8, 2006 @ 1:50 pm
I’d be willing to give up sneaky black professional victims, disease spreading homosexuals and stupid lazy people. Who wouldn’t USA! USA!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 15, 2006 @ 3:53 pm
this particular genre is actually limiting for actual exchange of ideas.
Comment by Clif — February 28, 2006 @ 12:46 pm
I agree. Without anything but black letters on a white background, none of us are really people. Not in the true sense of it.
But I’ll be surprised if you get an address actually. I think he likes things this way.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:50 pm[Women should NOT vote] Because they f e e l , they don’t think. There are exceptions to the rule and they all agree with me.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 2, 2005 @ 5:39 pm
Actually, we all disagree with him also.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:52 pmPUT THEM ALL ON TRIAL FOR TREASON AND HANG ‘EM FROM THE FLAG POLE AT THE PENTAGON…”Ann Coulter”. I’m just hypothesizing but doesn’t this sound like her.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:03 pmyou know why women have smaller feet then men , so they can stand closer to the kitchen sink
February 28th, 2006 at 1:06 pmTonight Elizabeth Vargas is going to interview Bubble Boy on World News Tonight. I’m sure Chimp Boy will have the same answers as well as anything that he that he says under the influence of Jack Daniels, IYKWIM.
#84 Terry, thanks for the examples you gave us on why I am so proud not to be like that troll. Those who don’t learn or read become an IRightI.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:09 pm84- Damn, that is a lot crap backed up in one septic tank of a “mind.” I’ll defend your right to say things that make you look like a reactionary, racist, misogynistic, war-mongering ass, but I’ll still call you one. Cheers.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:14 pmWhy don’t we review for a second the boogeymen and boogywomen under Adolf’s bed:
I hate the French, they pretty much invented the Filthy Left.
[...]
I’d be willing to give up sneaky black professional victims, disease spreading homosexuals and stupid lazy people. Who wouldn’t USA! USA!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Thank you Terry. You really should update the list though as you’re missing a lot of my latest wit and wisdom.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:16 pmActually, we all disagree with him also.
Comment by unbelievable
Of course you do. Now go get me a beer and be quick about it. Also, I thought I told you to put on that French maid’s uniform?
February 28th, 2006 at 1:17 pmLike I said, “If I didn’t fear God…â€
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #39
Insufferable-Rejected-Insect,
If you’re insinuating that your “fear of God” is preventing you from loosing your violent tendencies…
…I say you’re a liar…
…I say your FEAR of DEATH or great bodily injury to your person is what makes you all talk and NO walk…
…you’re harmless, tater…
February 28th, 2006 at 1:17 pmI can tell you that as a former member of the military, I knew it would come to this. When you send US troops into combat that’s one thing, but this has become more like Viet Nam in the last few years. If anyone is old enough to remember, we were told to “stay the course in Viet Name”, and were told, “I can see the light at the end of the tunnel”. Well, we now know that Gen William Westmoreland was saying what the President (Johnson) and his Defense Secretary (McNamara) wanted him to say. That was when he became a political general.
Well my friends, I can tell you what political generals do, they lose wars. These Generals (Abazaid) and (Casey) are both political, and are about to lose this war. No self respecting Combat General would put up with the Bull coming out of the Pentagon, he’d rather step down with honor than suffer defeat because of political influence on his decisions. Both these Generals are honorable men, but they are too busy keeping their jobs, to do there job. It is the duty of a general to tell the truth regardless of who it hurts or makes look bad.
Remember Baghdad Bob saying, “There are no American troops in Iraq” or words to that effect. Well my friends that is a politician talking, and it has nothing to do with reality. We all knew our troops had handed Sadam his butt and were about to take over the entire country when Baghdad Bob made his statement on worldwide TV. So, when a General like Abazaid, or Casey tells you we are winning in Iraq, just go ask a soldier and he’ll tell you the truth. Our soldiers have fought bravely and deserve our support, so lets support them by getting them out of this meat ginder.
If Dubya, Uncle Dick and Rummy think this war is so important, why don’t they challenge Bin Laden, Al Zarkawi, and Al Wahari to a stand off at high noon in downtown Baghdad? Then the whole thing can be settled once and for all. I agree with Dubya that we need to fight a war on terrorist, but I don’t think he has kept his word. If I were President, there wouldn’t be any place for these guys to hide. We got side tracked by invading Iraq in the first place, we could have paid some crack head to assasinate Sadam without starting a war.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:19 pm#73
February 28th, 2006 at 1:19 pmOne thing is for sure–The troops sure the hell have a lot more respect for Bush, than they ever did for Clinton.
#91. What wit? What wisdom. All there is from you is nothing but hot air.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:24 pm#91, not even I can nor wish to keep track of the dark corners of your sick mind, Adolf. I just hope they catch you before you hurt someone.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:24 pmOf course you do. Now go get me a beer and be quick about it. Also, I thought I told you to put on that French maid’s uniform?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 1:17 pm
Okay, I’ll be happy to go get you a beer… but don’t complain if it tastes funny :P
Actually, what you told me was that you hate all things French. So I returned the costume…
February 28th, 2006 at 1:25 pmThe Bullies are mouthing their foreign policies off again
WASHINGTON (AFP) – The United States said that Iran had a one-week “opportunity,” before the March 6 meeting of the UN nuclear watchdog agency, to ease fears that it seeks atomic weapons.
February 28th, 2006 at 2:33 pmBush
February 28th, 2006 at 2:34 pmis a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush
is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush
is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer
[...] of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year,” says a new Zogby poll. Via TP. [...]
February 28th, 2006 at 2:44 pmI’ll shut the fuck up when I’m damned good and ready or the Filthy Left who is working hard to demoralize our troops and give aid and comfort to our enemy are dead or locked up. Like I said, “If I didn’t fear God…â€
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #39
Please come and arrest me IRI…
I’ve been been a baaaaddd boy…
February 28th, 2006 at 2:50 pmPlease come and arrest me IRI…
I’ve been been a baaaaddd boy…
Comment by big papa
Boy? You said it, not me.
February 28th, 2006 at 2:54 pm“One thing is for sure–The troops sure the hell have a lot more respect for Bush, than they ever did for Clinton.”
Comment by Antagonist — February 28, 2006 @ 1:19 pm
Lets ask the dead ones shall we?
February 28th, 2006 at 3:03 pmOh, that’s right you can’t, for two reasons: No troops were killed due to the Clinton administration’s invasion of Kosovo, and you can’t dig up and talk to the ones Bush DID kill, ’cause they’re DEAD!
IRI, you must be in a real tought position right now. I see your anger has brought you to unmitigated levels of criminal propping. It’s like a kid that steals, you know you are busted, but just can’t admit defeat. Don’t worry, humility is a good trait. Admitting when you are wrong is a sign of strength, not weakness. However, continuing to pretend there is no elephant in the room will do nothing to further your maturity.
Your posts make it clear that you misunderstand what progressive means. Maybe you should leave out some of the adjectives and try to communicate a bit more articulately. You know, you will sound a lot smarter when you don’t feel the need to tell us you are.
Do you really not mind being so hateful? You sound exactly like Rush. Do you find that acceptable?
February 28th, 2006 at 3:11 pm“Nobody WANTS to be in a war. Nobody WANTS to serve in a third world shit hole. I didn’t say they would not do their duty. I’ll shut the fuck up when I’m damned good and ready or the Filthy Left who is working hard to demoralize our troops and give aid and comfort to our enemy are dead or locked up. Like I said, “If I didn’t fear God…â€
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @
This is the weakest spin yet, and naturally all segments of the Wurlitzer are echoing it (as well as their syncophants). Check out C&L’s link to Silber’s piece today; they aren’t going to be held responsible for any of the foul-ups because THEY WERE ONLY REACTING TO CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE OUT OF THEIR CONTROL! This represents the last ditch; after this they have no more excuses left.
February 28th, 2006 at 3:16 pmAntagonist,
Unit and battlion? Base? Job?
Something to back up your post?
Anything. 1980-1988 isn’t good enough.
February 28th, 2006 at 3:25 pmYes
You are a fvcking pussy.
February 28th, 2006 at 3:30 pmOne thing is for sure–The troops sure the hell have a lot more respect for Bush, than they ever did for Clinton.
Comment by Antagonist #95
Antichrist,
…even FOOLS go to school…
…I think they’re beginning to understand…
…how the criminal Bushite junta has used them…
…to make a buck…
…the port deal has been very eye-opening for them…
…only hyperchromosomal, inbred, al Crackkker Bushites like yourself, IRI and Puny Hermaphrodite…
…are holding on to Bushiva and Lil Dick’s ba*ls with your teeth bared…
February 28th, 2006 at 3:57 pmYour posts make it clear that you misunderstand what progressive means.
Comment by progressive and proud
I misunderstand very little. Progressive has been and is today a code word for communist. Communism may be somewhat passé these days but the aim of the radical left is still the same and the same players are in the game. What you misunderstand is your part in the whole scheme of Progressive things. You’re an actor, a useful idiot.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:06 pmYou are a fvcking pussy.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
You are a shaved goat, so there.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:07 pmUmmm, okay. Doesn’t change the fact that you are a racist, homophic, pussy that won’t stand up and fight for his country. You talk big, but are small in thought and action. Wimp.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:14 pm#110 Fascism may also sound passe today too, but the aim of the radical right is still the same and the same players are still in the game. What you misunderstand is your part in the whole scheme of American Fascism. You’re a Nazi, a psychotic muderous thug..
February 28th, 2006 at 4:15 pmGrousing or a Sign of Something More…
Think Progress points us to a New York Times poll which shows that 72% of US soldiers want out of Iraq.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:23 pmI actually don’t find this number too surprising. Mainly because most soldiers really don’t want to be in a war zone. It is kind of a no bra …..
I-RIGHT-I,
How does it feel to be a Nazi? I mean really, do you like it? Is that why you are so racist and homophobic? This is your leaders grandpa haelping the Nazis.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:29 pmIRI – you’re funny, but I’ve heard this one before, summary: The commies hate the GOP. The left hates the GOP. So the commies support the left. I saw that in one of those nutjob emails before the 2004 election.
Get out much ?
February 28th, 2006 at 4:38 pmHark! Does thou herest the fat lady singing the end of this very sad opera? (Wait until these veterans get back and find out the Department of Veterans Affairs is their real enemy, they will all be wailing a different toon!)
Signed: A veteran from Pennsylvania (Who has had DVA claims pending for over twenty years!)
February 28th, 2006 at 4:55 pm#94
We got side tracked by invading Iraq in the first place, we could have paid some crack head to assasinate Sadam without starting a war.
Comment by TimeForAChange
I have to disagree with you here. Invading Iraq was the plan from the start.
February 28th, 2006 at 5:18 pmIraq: The Musical
http://www.freewayblogger.com/index.htm
February 28th, 2006 at 5:25 pmI have to disagree with you here. Invading Iraq was the plan from the start.
Comment by Lily
Yes it was. Damn good plan too.
February 28th, 2006 at 5:47 pmI-RIGHT-I,
How does it feel to be a Nazi? I mean really, do you like it? Is that why you are so racist and homophobic? This is your leaders grandpa haelping the Nazis.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
I’m no National Socialist. That would be you losers. You’re also racist because you just know that the po black chil’un could not get along without you because they ain’t got no brain. As for homophobic? There’s no such thing. Nobody is in fear of queers but plenty are disgusted by them. Not you though I guess.
February 28th, 2006 at 5:51 pm#121, over the past few months you have betrayed every single aspect of a fascist. There are plenty of fascists around who don’t kill asa first choice to realize their ends. However, what differentiated Mussolini from Hitler was that Hitler carried out a premeditated plan to reclassify sections of humanity based on their race, religion, creed or sexual presuasion. That plan resulted in the deaths of between 6 and 50 million people.
You have frequently made statements that if you had your way you would also kill: political opponents, homosexuals, muslims, immigrants. So if the black shirt fits you should wear, you swine.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 3:58 pm
You are a vile Nazi. Convicted out of your own keyboard.
February 28th, 2006 at 6:04 pmSo the commies support the left. I saw that in one of those nutjob emails before the 2004 election.
Get out much ?
Comment by Schwede —
The commies are the Left Sugar. They’ve always been the Left. They were the Left before they were commies.
February 28th, 2006 at 6:10 pmIRI, Did your parents have any children that lived?.Please post your picture, I’ve never seen a living a living abortion B4.
February 28th, 2006 at 6:31 pmIRI, Grow yourself a pair of balls, join the army, and go fight in Iraq. I god damn guarantee you will come home in a body bag, because you will have Ahab the Arab shooting at you from in front, and GIs shooting at you from behind. The soul brothers will frag your KKK ass in a heartbeat.
February 28th, 2006 at 6:36 pmHave you seen the new CBS poll? Ha-ha-ha!
February 28th, 2006 at 6:47 pmIf Bush is so bad, why do they have to conduct a bogus poll? So tell me–why should anyone believe that this troop poll is credible? It should be obvious to all by now that there’s been a concerted effort to bring down the president, and the mainstream media is part of it. You libs are willing to believe anything as long as it makes Bush look bad.
#124 – Yes, seen that all before, Adolf:
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
You really should try cutting and pasting from MK – Hitler’s/Hess’s prose is so much more effective than yours.
February 28th, 2006 at 6:48 pm#109 big papa
February 28th, 2006 at 6:57 pmWipe the spittle from your chin and get someone to type for you. You’re incoherent and sputtering out sentence fragments again.
Antagonist,
Unit and battlion? Base? Job?
Something to back up your post?
Anything. 1980-1988 isn’t good enough.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 28, 2006 @ 3:25 pm
I’ll give you that when you give me your real name, your address and telephone number. How do I know whether you’re a foreign enemy of this country or just a domestic enemy of this country?
February 28th, 2006 at 7:06 pmI didn’t ask you for personal information you dumb fvck, so why you asking for mine. You want to get froggy? Idiot.
February 28th, 2006 at 7:10 pmWow, nice racist projection.
And why should I be disgusted by what somebody does behind closed doors of their own home. If we are going to be disgusted by what people do there, I can be pretty disgusted by the fact that your keyboard keys have a nice layer of goo from your one handed typing. Asswipe.
February 28th, 2006 at 7:13 pmThis comment proves just how stupid you are. Go join the military chicken shit.
February 28th, 2006 at 7:18 pm#128 – look, I’ll help you:
“The great leaders of Islam are confident that the day is near at hand when the command given in the Koran will be carried out and the Faithul of the Jihad will devour the other nations of the earth.”
Wow, that sounds great doesn’t it?
February 28th, 2006 at 7:24 pm#128 Here’s a winner for you Adolf:
Here’s yours:
And now here’s what yours could have been:
You could really up your game here, Adolf, I’m serious. I think I’m on to something here.
February 28th, 2006 at 7:28 pmOops my bad, I had Hitler was asking Roosevelt to get rid of them, he was thinking the USA would take them – dear oh dear how times have changed in the good old US of A. Let’s try again:
That’s better, makes sense now – up with the times kind of thing.
February 28th, 2006 at 7:33 pmwhy should anyone believe that this troop poll is credible?
Zogby has more credibility than Bush, Cheney, Rove, and you.
February 28th, 2006 at 7:40 pmOne thing you have to remember is, the PXs in Iraq do not stock Time, Newsweek, etc. It’s all biker mags, car mags, comic books, light stuff.
On the one hand you can say that’s good because it doesn’t weight them down with the controversy back here, but OTOH it leaves them ripe for disinformation like Rush Limbaugh, who, incredibly, is broadcast on Armed Forces Radio without any sort of equal time for opposing opinion (although they were going to start carrying Ed Schultz, who’s sort of a Liberal Lite.
In my opinion, that makes the results understandable, even the ones that don’t seem to jibe with each other. It’s hard to get an accurate picture or idea of what the controversy is back here unless you really seek it out, and that’s hard to do. So it seems like people are unpatriotic becasue you may not have a clue what else it could be. Etc.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:13 pmWhen that happens in this country I’ll be dead and it won’t matter to me…
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #124
Inhuman-Rodent-dIpsh*t,
Are you sure you aren’t David Koresh?
…Nah, Koresh liked screwing the WOMEN in his flock…
…you’re an animal/child porker…
February 28th, 2006 at 8:18 pmI’ll give you that when you give me your real name, your address and telephone number. How do I know whether you’re a foreign enemy of this country or just a domestic enemy of this country?
Comment by Antagonist #130
Antichrist,
…playing “military” again?
…that sh*t’s gonna get you in deep trouble…
…you’re a chickkkensh*t chickkenhawkkk coward…
…just like that pedophile, animal fu*kin’ IRI and your gods Bushiva and L’il Dick…
…you’re all TRAITORS…
February 28th, 2006 at 8:25 pmProtests in India against Bush visit
Among the speakers was Raj Babbar, a Hindu politician and actor, who said: “Whether Hindu or Muslim, the people of India have gathered here to show our anger. We have only one message – killer Bush go home.”
March 1st, 2006 at 4:59 am#140
March 1st, 2006 at 7:12 amAre you some kind of lunatic? What the hell are you talking about? I’m not playing military–I’m ex-military. AND I’m not the one who is a coward–that would be you sitting behind your keyboard, sputtering out childish taunts.
Fat Pap – Your filthy mouth should be washed out with lye soap – I can’t see Dove or Palmolive being strong enough.
March 1st, 2006 at 10:36 am[...] that found that 72 percent of U.S. troops want out of Iraq within a year. “It shouldn’t surprise anybody that a deployed soldier would rather be at home than deployed, even when they believe what they are doing is important and vital work,” Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said. (HT: Dadahead) 3:08 pm | Comment (6) [...]
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:16 pm[...] Zogby Poll: 72% of U.S. troops in Iraq believe we should pull out within the year. A quarter say we should leave immediately. 90% believe that the war is retaliation for Saddam Hussein’s role in September 11th (?!). (Via Think Progress) [...]
March 2nd, 2006 at 11:08 pmLets get something straight here. I have served three tours of duty in Iraq. I’ve seen combat all three tours on a daily basis. The reserve combat medic that was talked about by Robin is trying to bleed the government out of money. He never saw combat, he may have seen some bloody soldiers come in but ptsd comes mainly from the actual combat. Having bombs blow up 30 feet away from you, being shot, that causes pstd. Basically I could go to gore.com and look at pictures of dead soldiers and claim pstd if they didn’t sift through these fakers. When I was over there I prayed every night that Bush would pull us out but once I got back and started thinking with a level head. WE CANNOT pull out of Iraq. the Terrorists will overrun that POS government in no time and that place will be a terrorist breeding ground. they will develop and stockpile weapons and train terrorist daily. If you bring home 130,000 soldiers you will save 1,000 from dying over there but you will be killin 50,000 civilians when the terrorists strike again 5 years from now. and thats the BIG PICTURE
March 22nd, 2006 at 1:26 pmBush know as much about war as I know about taxes
March 27th, 2006 at 6:58 pmAnd I’m not even payin’ ‘em yet!!!
Well we should let them live as they please now, And if they do choose to cause more trouble kill the whole race. WHy? Because i woulod rather see there people die and not ours.
March 29th, 2006 at 3:21 pmThe remark above this one is one of the most anti-human rights comments I have ever heard. Doing that would being a 4th Reich. You sir are a Nazi.
April 1st, 2006 at 3:42 pmBy the way, I’m opposed to the was
[...] Don’t you ever get tired of hearing Bush say "we question the mission we undermine the morale of our troops"? (If you don’t know what I mean then you can read Bush’s words here via Think Progress). [...]
June 28th, 2006 at 12:25 amDon’ believe your opinion poll. Doubt you posted every response on this website. From a wife of a Desert Storm Vet.
January 27th, 2007 at 3:29 pmYou are all crazy flamers. This “discussion” is totally ridiculous and pointless. Maybe you people should go do something productive in the real world.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:24 pmDo all of you have a propensity for absurd and incognitive contemplation, or is it just this page? I mean really now, there was a comment on here that said “I’m sure most self-described Republicans support the troops, but very few of them actually sign up for military duty.”
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 amNow, I wonder, where is he? Did he enlist? Chances are the answer is: NO. Why? Because he would rather tell us all about how republicans are capricious, hypocritical imbeciles who enjoy seeing our soldiers die. There’s something that you people need to understand: FOR EVERY PENNY, EVERY OUNCE OF FREEDOM THAT WE, AND ANY OTHER COUNTRY, HAVE, THERE IS A PRICE OF SOME KIND!!!
Think about it, how is it that we are a free country now? Why aren’t we still a part of England? Because there were people who were willing to fight for it. There were people who were willing to give their lives for the cause.
However, I am not going to say that this war in Iraq is completely exempt of criticism. But I cannot sit by while all you talk about is why it is so important that we establish that ‘the war is bad’. What war isn’t? When was there ever a war that was free of ‘the death toll’? Never. There has also never been a war that didn’t have a downside. Never.
To address president Bush, nobody is perfect. And I am relieved that no one (in the fairly moderate overview I conducted of this page) brought up, and compared, Bill Clinton. He was, afterall, a pardoned felon for draft dodging. Like I said, nobody is perfect. The whole point of an election is so that we can come as close to [the perfect president] as we can. But to get back to my topic sentence, I said this with the bottom line of this debate: You can’t know everything. There is no way that a single person can know every aspect of every issue that arises. You are just supposed to know enough to make wise decisions. I will admit, there is something to be said about the war and its toll on the troops. This war was started not for oil, not because we remembered past crimes committed by Suddam Hussein, not because we just felt like it, but because we saw it as a threat. Bush was informed by the people who are paid to know these thingsthat they had weapons of mass distruction. This, regardless of whether the information was true or not, is a problem of PERCEPTION, NOT POOR DICISIONS!!!
Well I am too tired to continue this now, but you get my point. War is bad: absolutely
Bring ‘em home: absolutely
Is it Bush’s fault that terrorism exists: NO!!!!!!!!
(#96) “Bush
is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush
is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush
is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer”
This is what we call a severe case of Mediaitis. He has been so horribly brainwashed that he can’t say anything past what he’s heard from other victims. Poor soul.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 pm[...] 2006, 72 percent of U.S. soldiers favored withdrawal within one year. Apparently, all Cheney has to say to them now is, “So?“ Comments 0 Share [...]
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