Comments on: 72% of U.S. Troops Want Out of Iraq Within One Year http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:47:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Think Progress » Blog Archive » Even After Listening To ‘Rousing’ Cheney Speech, Troops Back Pro-Withdrawal Candidates http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-4809864 Think Progress » Blog Archive » Even After Listening To ‘Rousing’ Cheney Speech, Troops Back Pro-Withdrawal Candidates Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:21:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-4809864 [...] 2006, 72 percent of U.S. soldiers favored withdrawal within one year. Apparently, all Cheney has to say to them now is, “So?“ Comments 0 Share [...] [...] 2006, 72 percent of U.S. soldiers favored withdrawal within one year. Apparently, all Cheney has to say to them now is, “So?“ Comments 0 Share [...]

]]> By: Mr. Fun http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-1619451 Mr. Fun Sat, 03 Feb 2007 04:43:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-1619451 (#96) "Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer" This is what we call a severe case of Mediaitis. He has been so horribly brainwashed that he can't say anything past what he's heard from other victims. Poor soul. (#96) “Bush
is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush
is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer Bush
is a mass murderer Bush is a mass murderer”

This is what we call a severe case of Mediaitis. He has been so horribly brainwashed that he can’t say anything past what he’s heard from other victims. Poor soul.

]]> By: Mr. Fun http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-1608060 Mr. Fun Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:11:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-1608060 Do all of you have a propensity for absurd and incognitive contemplation, or is it just this page? I mean really now, there was a comment on here that said "I’m sure most self-described Republicans support the troops, but very few of them actually sign up for military duty." Now, I wonder, where is he? Did <em>he</em> enlist? Chances are the answer is: NO. Why? Because he would rather tell us all about how republicans are capricious, hypocritical imbeciles who enjoy seeing our soldiers die. There's something that you people need to understand: FOR EVERY PENNY, EVERY OUNCE OF FREEDOM THAT WE, AND ANY OTHER COUNTRY, HAVE, THERE IS A PRICE OF SOME KIND!!! Think about it, how is it that we are a free country now? Why aren't we still a part of England? Because there were people who were willing to fight for it. There were people who were willing to give their lives for the cause. However, I am not going to say that this war in Iraq is completely exempt of criticism. But I cannot sit by while all you talk about is why it is so important that we establish that 'the war is bad'. What war isn't? When was there ever a war that was free of 'the death toll'? Never. There has also never been a war that didn't have a downside. Never. To address president Bush, nobody is perfect. And I am relieved that no one (in the fairly moderate overview I conducted of this page) brought up, and compared, Bill Clinton. He was, afterall, a <strong>pardoned felon for draft dodging</strong>. Like I said, nobody is perfect. The whole point of an election is so that we can come as close to [the perfect president] as we can. But to get back to my topic sentence, I said this with the bottom line of this debate: You can't know everything. There is no way that a single person can know every aspect of every issue that arises. You are just supposed to know enough to make wise decisions. I will admit, there is something to be said about the war and its toll on the troops. This war was started not for oil, not because we remembered past crimes committed by Suddam Hussein, not because we just felt like it, but because we saw it as a threat. Bush was informed <em>by the people who are paid to know these things</em>that they had weapons of mass distruction. This, regardless of whether the information was true or not, is a problem of PERCEPTION, NOT POOR DICISIONS!!! Well I am too tired to continue this now, but you get my point. War is bad: absolutely Bring 'em home: absolutely Is it Bush's fault that terrorism exists: NO!!!!!!!! Do all of you have a propensity for absurd and incognitive contemplation, or is it just this page? I mean really now, there was a comment on here that said “I’m sure most self-described Republicans support the troops, but very few of them actually sign up for military duty.”
Now, I wonder, where is he? Did he enlist? Chances are the answer is: NO. Why? Because he would rather tell us all about how republicans are capricious, hypocritical imbeciles who enjoy seeing our soldiers die. There’s something that you people need to understand: FOR EVERY PENNY, EVERY OUNCE OF FREEDOM THAT WE, AND ANY OTHER COUNTRY, HAVE, THERE IS A PRICE OF SOME KIND!!!
Think about it, how is it that we are a free country now? Why aren’t we still a part of England? Because there were people who were willing to fight for it. There were people who were willing to give their lives for the cause.
However, I am not going to say that this war in Iraq is completely exempt of criticism. But I cannot sit by while all you talk about is why it is so important that we establish that ‘the war is bad’. What war isn’t? When was there ever a war that was free of ‘the death toll’? Never. There has also never been a war that didn’t have a downside. Never.
To address president Bush, nobody is perfect. And I am relieved that no one (in the fairly moderate overview I conducted of this page) brought up, and compared, Bill Clinton. He was, afterall, a pardoned felon for draft dodging. Like I said, nobody is perfect. The whole point of an election is so that we can come as close to [the perfect president] as we can. But to get back to my topic sentence, I said this with the bottom line of this debate: You can’t know everything. There is no way that a single person can know every aspect of every issue that arises. You are just supposed to know enough to make wise decisions. I will admit, there is something to be said about the war and its toll on the troops. This war was started not for oil, not because we remembered past crimes committed by Suddam Hussein, not because we just felt like it, but because we saw it as a threat. Bush was informed by the people who are paid to know these thingsthat they had weapons of mass distruction. This, regardless of whether the information was true or not, is a problem of PERCEPTION, NOT POOR DICISIONS!!!
Well I am too tired to continue this now, but you get my point. War is bad: absolutely
Bring ‘em home: absolutely
Is it Bush’s fault that terrorism exists: NO!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Booga http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-1607587 Booga Fri, 02 Feb 2007 04:24:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-1607587 You are all crazy flamers. This "discussion" is totally ridiculous and pointless. Maybe you people should go do something productive in the real world. You are all crazy flamers. This “discussion” is totally ridiculous and pointless. Maybe you people should go do something productive in the real world.

]]> By: A Hudson http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-1550573 A Hudson Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:29:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-1550573 Don' believe your opinion poll. Doubt you posted every response on this website. From a wife of a Desert Storm Vet. Don’ believe your opinion poll. Doubt you posted every response on this website. From a wife of a Desert Storm Vet.

]]> By: IntoxiNation » Blog Archive » Troop Support For The War Plummets http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-645724 IntoxiNation » Blog Archive » Troop Support For The War Plummets Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:25:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-645724 [...] Don’t you ever get tired of hearing Bush say "we question the mission we undermine the morale of our troops"? (If you don’t know what I mean then you can read Bush’s words here via Think Progress). [...] [...] Don’t you ever get tired of hearing Bush say "we question the mission we undermine the morale of our troops"? (If you don’t know what I mean then you can read Bush’s words here via Think Progress). [...]

]]> By: C-hop http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-493041 C-hop Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:42:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-493041 The remark above this one is one of the most anti-human rights comments I have ever heard. Doing that would being a 4th Reich. You sir are a Nazi. By the way, I'm opposed to the was The remark above this one is one of the most anti-human rights comments I have ever heard. Doing that would being a 4th Reich. You sir are a Nazi.
By the way, I’m opposed to the was

]]> By: Joshua Holm http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-489626 Joshua Holm Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:21:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-489626 Well we should let them live as they please now, And if they do choose to cause more trouble kill the whole race. WHy? Because i woulod rather see there people die and not ours. Well we should let them live as they please now, And if they do choose to cause more trouble kill the whole race. WHy? Because i woulod rather see there people die and not ours.

]]> By: C-hop http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-487665 C-hop Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:58:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-487665 Bush know as much about war as I know about taxes <strong><em>And I'm not even payin' 'em yet!!!</em></strong> Bush know as much about war as I know about taxes
And I’m not even payin’ ‘em yet!!!

]]> By: Ron http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-483000 Ron Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:26:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-483000 Lets get something straight here. I have served three tours of duty in Iraq. I've seen combat all three tours on a daily basis. The reserve combat medic that was talked about by Robin is trying to bleed the government out of money. He never saw combat, he may have seen some bloody soldiers come in but ptsd comes mainly from the actual combat. Having bombs blow up 30 feet away from you, being shot, that causes pstd. Basically I could go to gore.com and look at pictures of dead soldiers and claim pstd if they didn't sift through these fakers. When I was over there I prayed every night that Bush would pull us out but once I got back and started thinking with a level head. WE CANNOT pull out of Iraq. the Terrorists will overrun that POS government in no time and that place will be a terrorist breeding ground. they will develop and stockpile weapons and train terrorist daily. If you bring home 130,000 soldiers you will save 1,000 from dying over there but you will be killin 50,000 civilians when the terrorists strike again 5 years from now. and thats the BIG PICTURE Lets get something straight here. I have served three tours of duty in Iraq. I’ve seen combat all three tours on a daily basis. The reserve combat medic that was talked about by Robin is trying to bleed the government out of money. He never saw combat, he may have seen some bloody soldiers come in but ptsd comes mainly from the actual combat. Having bombs blow up 30 feet away from you, being shot, that causes pstd. Basically I could go to gore.com and look at pictures of dead soldiers and claim pstd if they didn’t sift through these fakers. When I was over there I prayed every night that Bush would pull us out but once I got back and started thinking with a level head. WE CANNOT pull out of Iraq. the Terrorists will overrun that POS government in no time and that place will be a terrorist breeding ground. they will develop and stockpile weapons and train terrorist daily. If you bring home 130,000 soldiers you will save 1,000 from dying over there but you will be killin 50,000 civilians when the terrorists strike again 5 years from now. and thats the BIG PICTURE

]]> By: Waldo Jaquith » Blog Archive » Troops support pulling out of Iraq. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-464179 Waldo Jaquith » Blog Archive » Troops support pulling out of Iraq. Fri, 03 Mar 2006 04:08:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-464179 [...] Zogby Poll: 72% of U.S. troops in Iraq believe we should pull out within the year. A quarter say we should leave immediately. 90% believe that the war is retaliation for Saddam Hussein’s role in September 11th (?!). (Via Think Progress) [...] [...] Zogby Poll: 72% of U.S. troops in Iraq believe we should pull out within the year. A quarter say we should leave immediately. 90% believe that the war is retaliation for Saddam Hussein’s role in September 11th (?!). (Via Think Progress) [...]

]]> By: Think Progress » Pentagon dismisses poll http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-463703 Think Progress » Pentagon dismisses poll Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:16:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-463703 [...] that found that 72 percent of U.S. troops want out of Iraq within a year. “It shouldn’t surprise anybody that a deployed soldier would rather be at home than deployed, even when they believe what they are doing is important and vital work,” Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said. (HT: Dadahead)  3:08 pm | Comment (6) [...] [...] that found that 72 percent of U.S. troops want out of Iraq within a year. “It shouldn’t surprise anybody that a deployed soldier would rather be at home than deployed, even when they believe what they are doing is important and vital work,” Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said. (HT: Dadahead)  3:08 pm | Comment (6) [...]

]]> By: mighty aphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-461880 mighty aphrodite Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:36:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-461880 Fat Pap - Your filthy mouth should be washed out with lye soap - I can't see Dove or Palmolive being strong enough. Fat Pap – Your filthy mouth should be washed out with lye soap – I can’t see Dove or Palmolive being strong enough.

]]> By: Antagonist http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-461781 Antagonist Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:12:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-461781 #140 Are you some kind of lunatic? What the hell are you talking about? I'm not playing military--I'm ex-military. AND I'm not the one who is a coward--that would be you sitting behind your keyboard, sputtering out childish taunts. #140
Are you some kind of lunatic? What the hell are you talking about? I’m not playing military–I’m ex-military. AND I’m not the one who is a coward–that would be you sitting behind your keyboard, sputtering out childish taunts.

]]> By: Tobby Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-461751 Tobby Tall Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:59:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-461751 <strong>Protests in India against Bush visit</strong> Among the speakers was Raj Babbar, a Hindu politician and actor, who said: "Whether Hindu or Muslim, the people of India have gathered here to show our anger. We have only one message - <strong>killer Bush go home</strong>." Protests in India against Bush visit

Among the speakers was Raj Babbar, a Hindu politician and actor, who said: “Whether Hindu or Muslim, the people of India have gathered here to show our anger. We have only one message – killer Bush go home.”

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-461363 big papa Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:25:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-461363 I’ll give you that when you give me your real name, your address and telephone number. How do I know whether you’re a foreign enemy of this country or just a domestic enemy of this country? Comment by Antagonist #130 <strong>Antichrist, ...playing "military" again? ...that sh*t's gonna get you in deep trouble... ...you're a chickkkensh*t chickkenhawkkk coward... ...just like that pedophile, animal fu*kin' IRI and your gods Bushiva and L'il Dick... ...you're all TRAITORS... </strong> I’ll give you that when you give me your real name, your address and telephone number. How do I know whether you’re a foreign enemy of this country or just a domestic enemy of this country?

Comment by Antagonist #130

Antichrist,

…playing “military” again?

…that sh*t’s gonna get you in deep trouble…

…you’re a chickkkensh*t chickkenhawkkk coward…

…just like that pedophile, animal fu*kin’ IRI and your gods Bushiva and L’il Dick…

…you’re all TRAITORS…

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-461357 big papa Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:18:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-461357 When that happens in this country I’ll be dead and it won’t matter to me... Comment by I-RIGHT-I #124 <strong>Inhuman-Rodent-dIpsh*t, Are you sure you aren't David Koresh? ...Nah, Koresh liked screwing the WOMEN in his flock... ...you're an animal/child porker...</strong> When that happens in this country I’ll be dead and it won’t matter to me…

Comment by I-RIGHT-I #124

Inhuman-Rodent-dIpsh*t,

Are you sure you aren’t David Koresh?

…Nah, Koresh liked screwing the WOMEN in his flock…

…you’re an animal/child porker…

]]> By: ElectricBassPlayer http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-461351 ElectricBassPlayer Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:13:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-461351 One thing you have to remember is, the PXs in Iraq do not stock Time, Newsweek, etc. It's all biker mags, car mags, comic books, light stuff. On the one hand you can say that's good because it doesn't weight them down with the controversy back here, but OTOH it leaves them ripe for disinformation like Rush Limbaugh, who, incredibly, is broadcast on Armed Forces Radio without any sort of equal time for opposing opinion (although they were going to start carrying Ed Schultz, who's sort of a Liberal Lite. In my opinion, that makes the results understandable, even the ones that don't seem to jibe with each other. It's hard to get an accurate picture or idea of what the controversy is back here unless you really seek it out, and that's hard to do. So it seems like people are unpatriotic becasue you may not have a clue what else it could be. Etc. One thing you have to remember is, the PXs in Iraq do not stock Time, Newsweek, etc. It’s all biker mags, car mags, comic books, light stuff.

On the one hand you can say that’s good because it doesn’t weight them down with the controversy back here, but OTOH it leaves them ripe for disinformation like Rush Limbaugh, who, incredibly, is broadcast on Armed Forces Radio without any sort of equal time for opposing opinion (although they were going to start carrying Ed Schultz, who’s sort of a Liberal Lite.

In my opinion, that makes the results understandable, even the ones that don’t seem to jibe with each other. It’s hard to get an accurate picture or idea of what the controversy is back here unless you really seek it out, and that’s hard to do. So it seems like people are unpatriotic becasue you may not have a clue what else it could be. Etc.

]]> By: David http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-461332 David Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:40:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-461332 <em>why should anyone believe that this troop poll is credible?</em> Zogby has more credibility than Bush, Cheney, Rove, and you. why should anyone believe that this troop poll is credible?

Zogby has more credibility than Bush, Cheney, Rove, and you.

]]> By: TerrytheTurtle http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/comment-page-3/#comment-461324 TerrytheTurtle Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:33:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/bushvstroops/#comment-461324 Oops my bad, I had Hitler was asking Roosevelt to get rid of them, he was thinking the USA would take them - dear oh dear how times have changed in the good old US of A. Let's try again: <blockquote>"Why does the world shed crocodile’s tears over the richly merited fate of a small homosexual minority? … I ask Mr Bush, I ask the American people: Are you prepared to continue to tolerate in your midst these well-poisoners of the American people and the universal spirit of Christianity? I would willingly give everyone of them a free air-ticket and a twenty-dollar note for travelling expenses, if we could get rid of them." </blockquote> That's better, makes sense now - up with the times kind of thing. Oops my bad, I had Hitler was asking Roosevelt to get rid of them, he was thinking the USA would take them – dear oh dear how times have changed in the good old US of A. Let’s try again:

“Why does the world shed crocodile’s tears over the richly merited fate of a small homosexual minority? … I ask Mr Bush, I ask the American people: Are you prepared to continue to tolerate in your midst these well-poisoners of the American people and the universal spirit of Christianity? I would willingly give everyone of them a free air-ticket and a twenty-dollar note for travelling expenses, if we could get rid of them.”

That’s better, makes sense now – up with the times kind of thing.

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