BREAKING: Dubai Ports World Boycotts Israel
BREAKING: Dubai Ports World Boycotts Israel
From this morning’s Jerusalem Post:
The parent company of a Dubai-based firm at the center of a political storm in the US over the purchase of American ports participates in the Arab boycott against Israel, The Jerusalem Post has learned.
The Jerusalem Post notes that “US law bars firms from complying with such requests or cooperating with attempts by Arab governments to boycott Israel.” Once upon a time, opposing such boycotts was important to the Bush Administration. From the BBC, 5/11/02:
“The US government is strongly opposed to restrictive trade practices or boycotts targeted at Israel,” said Undersecretary of Commerce for Industry and Security Kenneth Juster.
“The Commerce Department is closely monitoring efforts that appear to be made to reinvigorate the Arab boycott of Israel and will use all of its resources to vigorously enforce US anti-boycott regulations.”
…The Department of Commerce has issued more than $26m in fines and turned down export licenses to those found violating the law.
The boycott against Israel is an important distinction between P&O, the British company that currently operates 21 U.S. ports, and Dubai Ports World.
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Judd – real classy. Play the Israel card. You NEVER once criticized Cindy Sheehan and other liberal Democrats when they slammed Israel. But now that you need to attack Bush, you roll out the ole anti-Sem charge.
An ounce of intellectual honesty could take you a long way. Enjoy minority party status because hateful jew baiting like this will keep you there.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:31 amHA HA, Judd is the Jew-baiter, when Bush’s friends the UAE & Saudis are the ones boycotting Israel!
By the way, Jews and Israel are not synonymous, just as Christian and American are not. There are many non-Zionist Jews out here in the real world.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:33 amFatty – I am just pointing out the obvious. Liberals could careless about Israel. PERIOD.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:35 amThe nice thing about being a NeoCon is that you don’t have to THINK.
The point of the post is BushCo’s hypocrisy, of which this is just another example.
Bush wants another 9/11 so he can suspend the Constitution.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:39 amHere’s a good likely quote from Bush ’such a deal has allowed a broader peace in the middle east – the UAE has agreed to establish ties with Israel’.
The type/level of cooperation would matter, I imagine. It is difficult to understand how DPW could boycott them other than by refusing to load Israeli cargo. That would seem to be a bit of a stretch since the state operate Israeli docks. I think it relates to the parent companies activities.
I do believe, however, that the UAE itself boycotts Israel just like post gulf states. In the end, though, it’s difficult to boycott a country with limited exports.
DPW’s parent company is Dubai’s investment fund. It has a number of businesses, a new one which will be DAE, an aerospace firm.
Yah, there’s a tip – Dubai gets mass love because Dubai buys lots of planes. Emirates Airlines has the largest order book of any airline in the world. Hmm, boeing trying to take business from airbus?
I suppose the law would also have to differentiate between companies. I’m sure they can figure out some way to change the power structure of the firm, ie, making DPW it’s own company.
Israel should be supported, but its doubtful that the UAE boycott hurts them in any way.
That law is really an extension of the WTO, which also bans boycotts. Technically, the Arab/Persian/Muslim asian boycott of Danish products is illegal under WTO. Some of those countries are WTO members. The problem is enforcement. The US law is more of a way to get companies who are not in the WTO or when the US doesn’t want to spend tons of time in WTO arbitration.
We are talking about DPW’s parent company as being the investment fund that controls, among other, Emirate Airlines, Dubai Internet City, Dubai Financial District, Dubai Stock Exchange, etc right?
I guess a ‘good’ thing that might result would be Dubai ending whatever boycott they have going, which is probably more symbolic than anything. Until recently Israel was a statist economy. Now they export nice weapons (got to love their Desert Eagles), flowers, and Palestinian goods:)
February 28th, 2006 at 9:40 amPerson of interest, it is “could not care less.” Maybe someday you can become person of basic literacy.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:40 amJohn – maybe someday you can attack the argument and not the grammar. Typical liberal. I guess if my argument was as poor as the left’s, I’d go english teacher too.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:44 amperson of interest –
Its call Hypocrisy …something you righties are FULL of. Dont come on here talkin about being for Israel one minute and against the next. All this story shows is that the NeoCons are two faced hypocrites that want everyone to follow the rules except themselves and their business partners… you really show your partisan ignorance in your post.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:44 amWow, POI…
There are no Liberal Jews who care about Israel? Nice sweeping generalization.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:46 amLet me see if I can find one… oh, me. And, not all Liberal Jews are big fans of International Answer and their ilk. We just don’t think the Neo-con plan for the Middle East is good for Israel or the long-term settlement of the regional security issues.
p.o.i., your comparison of a state-owned company that participates in a commercial boycott against Israel and the First Amendment-protected speech of Sheehan and other US citizens is dishonest. You do support the Constitutional right of all Americans to free speech, don’t you?
February 28th, 2006 at 9:46 amYes, it is true – liberals tend to dislike Israel, or rather their treatment of their neighbors. We also tend to dislike the military aid that Israel gets from us to build their Wall (it’s only a fence in a few places).
Playing the Israeli card is effective though in that it is something some conservatives, some liberals, and most of the politicians are concerned about. Israeli has nukes and their neighbors don’t, at least not yet.
And yes, Jews do not equal Israel but there are alot of Jews in Israel. What’s the point?
The point is that Israeli is the only meaningful ally of the US in the middle east. The fact that the UAE is the next best thing shows alot – that’d be another point I’d make.
And yes, Cindy Sheehan is a serial Israeli basher, but in a broader context in that it’s tied to US foreign policy. I would completely disagree that it’s anti-semitism.
Disagreeing with Israeli policies does not make one an anti-semite.
Those who believe that Israel should not exist, based on some historical reasoning whatever, are irrelevent in that Israeli does exist and will continue to.
When the Arab neighbors attack Israeli, it generally is anti-semitism as the state media loves their hitler era jewish cartoons and stereotypes.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:47 am#10, p.o.i.
It is established constitutional law that corporations and individuals are subject to different first ammendment freedoms.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:49 am11 –
February 28th, 2006 at 9:49 amSo true
“Could care less” is standard redneck usage for just the opposite. Various relatives of mine say it all the time.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:49 amJoel – I support freedom of speech and I am free to criticize Cindy Sheehan’s anti-American and anti-Israel comments.
The left-wing thought police won’t stop me from attacking their lies and anti-American agenda.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:49 amCindy Sheehan slammed Israel? And that makes her an anti-semite? And I suppose that the 66% of the American public who can clearly see W’s incompetence and greed are America-haters, with that “logic”. Seems to me that slamming Israel makes one a friend of Jews, since the Israeli government’s actions are dangerous to Jews worldwide. Person of interest must think we’re as blind and stupid as he and his koolaid-chugging 34 percenters.
We’re not. Take your racism elsewhere.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:49 am#12 – your partisanship is well established, as well.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:50 amRonjazz – you people are the bigots and haters.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:50 am“It is established constitutional law that corporations and individuals are subject to different first ammendment freedoms.”
Uh, James, to the best of my knowledge, the UAE is not currently covered by the US Constitution.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:50 am15 POI
Try pointing out some lies instead of making assertions. You got any links? Qoutes? Where are all these liberal lies? Liberals tend to qoute the rest of the world in their reasoning ..are you saying the whole world is lieing except neocon facists?
February 28th, 2006 at 9:50 amwhatever, poi. carelessness is really one of your side’s things…
February 28th, 2006 at 9:52 am“I support freedom of speech and I am free to criticize Cindy Sheehan’s anti-American and anti-Israel comments.”
Indeed you are. And you are free to make dishonest comparisons between US citizens and state-owned ME companies. The Constitution does protect your right to post ignorant and stupid things.
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February 28th, 2006 at 9:53 amLOL so UAE/DPW corp. is anti-Israel too > Bush is craping on everyone over this dirty deal to sell our port operations on the East Coast to them! Impeach Bush now!
February 28th, 2006 at 9:53 am#20 – I’ll give you a little lie. Why are Democrats pouncing on this issue? Because a foreign country is taking over our ports? All our ports are run by foreign countries – well established before W ever came along.
Democrats are playing into people’s fears because Dubai is an Arab country and they are lying about it for cover. You pigs are helping them. Short term, it’s a winner, but long term a real loser. For example, Hillary supports racial profiling of Arab countries. John Zogby might not lie about her poll numbers to help her.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:55 am“An overwhelming majority of American Jews – 73 percent – describe themselves as moderate or liberal; 23 percent label themselves as conservative. Only 19 percent voted for Bush in the 2000 elections”
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp509.htm
February 28th, 2006 at 9:55 amSince 1,2,3 are unburdened by logic and reason a couple things should be pointed out to you.
First, Judd is pointing out the inconsistency in the Bush administration policy. You see, with your republican masters, when money is involved their “principles” vanish. And when it comes to following U.S. law, we’ve seen how well the Bush Administration Inc. are about that.
Second, criticism of a government’s policies is not quite the same as anti-semitism. Of course, since most of the Bush lovers think criticism of his policies amounts to anti-americanism, I can see why this is a mystery to you. When Sheehan or others criticize Israel’s policies, it isn’t quite the same as opposing the country’s existence. But that is a bit too fine a distinction for minds as sharp as yours. And if you really believe that UAE loves jews but just hates Israel’s policies, well, may I suggest you visit a local library and read up about how radical islamist governments with strong ties to Bin Laden feel about jews generally.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:55 am25)
That is more assertions ..where is the LIE? You are full of it. I live in Indiana…LOTS of republicans around here… NO ONE likes the ports deal. When people found out that foreign countries were running our ports EVERYONE is saying that NO foreign country should be doing this ..escpecially a country involved with OSAMA.
Once again where is the lie?
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February 28th, 2006 at 9:57 am“Democrats are playing into people’s fears because Dubai is an Arab country . . .”
Well, not exactly. You see two of the 9/11 hijackers came from the UAE. And money to support this crime was laundered through state-owned banks in the UAE. And the royalty is known to be friends with bin Laden. So once again, poi, your dishonesty betrays you. Dubai is not just any old Arab country. It has more links to al Qaeda than Iraq ever had. Moron.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:58 amI am a liberal. I support Israel (but deplore their recent policies).
The administration will ignore any law that gets in the way of their schemes. That is the obvious point of thus post.
Do their schemes make sense? he administration, if they didn’t have their heads up their asses, could have avoided having Hamas in control of the Palestinian authority; could have avoided a terrorist breeding ground/civil war/emerging Islamic theocracy in Iraq; creatred ab overstretched US military and a national guard too depleted to do their jobs at home; and on and on and on.
The Bush administration — a bunch of incompetent morons who are really bad for our national security.
Wingnuts — too stupid to see it.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:58 ampoi, you people are the ones eager to shred the Constitution and destroy our democracy, and your lies are daily, and legion. Without corporate ownership of the news media, Bushco would all be behind bars. Billions of American dollars stolen in a trumped-up, illegal, immoral “war” that your “leaders” have no chance of winning, even if they had a goal, a complete failure of national security on /11, and again during hurricane Katrina, abortion rates climbing, poverty rates climbing, jobs disappearing overseas, along with the bank accounts of the biggest companies, sick fundamentalists infecting the schools with biblical buillshit, homophobia and misogyny expanding, innocent Canadian citizens “rendered” for torture from our soil, cuts in veterans’ Affairs and educational funding, and you call me a bigot and hater. i’ll admit it, in 57 years on the planet, I have had pretty serious disagreements with the right wing fools that have hijacked our government, but not until Bush and his gang of criminals has hate been a factor, but you are right, I do hate them, as they are mass murderers and sociopathic torturers, and the people like you who support them are the same as the Good Germans of WW2, blind and stupid pigs who should stand in the docks at the Hague with them. You don’t deserve your citizenship.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:00 am#31 – would you have supported tapping those two UAE terrorists’ phones without a warrant? NO. So STFU and stop pretending that you care about fighting terror. You care about scoring political points and playing to people’s fears.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:02 amThe more you feed it, the more it wants to stay and crap all over the carpet.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:04 am34)
All presidents should have to get warrants. And hopefully AFTER he does he spies on every word spoken by every terrorist. Your high school quality / rush limbaugh quality arguments are embarressing ..I suggest you got flock with your bird of a feather because on here you are lookin more and more ignorant/stupid.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:05 ampoi- it is the norm that in making your “conservative” argument, you mis-state the positions of those you would pit yourself against.
2 points:
1) as stated above, liberals don’t automatically not like Israel. Many of us have very good Israeli friends, having been raised in metropolitain areas. I do. Can you say the same? Do you personally know 1 Israeli? Does that person know your name? Doubt it. It is true, we don’t like the racism that occurs within Israel any more than the racism that occurs in Arab states or here in the US for that metter. It is also true that we don’t like theocratic states. They tend to trample minority religions and viewpoints, which the Orthodox Rabbi’s regularly engage in within their own community. They don’t think liberal or conservative Rabbi’s can preform wedding rights or would they like to allow them to represent a religious viewpoint nationally. Do you like pork? Orthodox Rabbi’s have tried to ban the raising and sale of pork, even for those who aren’t jews in Israel.
So we may support Israel, but that doesn’t mean we like everything about it. Same as here in the US.
2) Cindy Sheehan…I’m sorry, I must have missed something. Where is she anti-semetic? Where is she anti Israel? Where is she anti-American? If you are referring to any points included in #1 above, please refer to my conclusion. Criticism doesn’t mean foe.
It’s a hallmark of your little mind that you equate criticism of a government or organization with being anti. It’s a hallmark of totalitarian states and fascist persons to try to equate criticism with being in the enemies camp.
You sir, are just another pathetic Hitler Youth.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:06 am“#31 – would you have supported tapping those two UAE terrorists’ phones without a warrant? NO.”
Sure. I support wiretaps if they are court approved. My objection to Bush Administration wiretaps is that they violate the law providing for court oversight. You are so dishonest that you lie about the issue.
“So STFU and stop pretending that you care about fighting terror. You care about scoring political points and playing to people’s fears.”
No, its you that’s pretending. You can’t even be honest about the wiretap issue when you use it to change the subject, once I pointed out your dishonesty over the topic of this thread. Lies heaped upon lies, poi. That’s what you’re about.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:06 amI would support tapping their phones WITH a warrant. That’s the law. And it wouldn’t matter either way, since Bush is so damned incompetent that even memos and daily briefings couldn’t wake him out of his slumber. Since they can’t do one damn thing right except steal elections and money, why should they not obey the law? Your side was only too happy to use the law as a club against a president who actually did his job while getting a blow job, and you all look the fools now because of it. You’re proving your lawlessness by your statements. You really would be happier in North Korea, where they do things your way.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:07 amOf course, POI won’t admit that the main reason he and his evangelical buddies back Israel’s Likud Party (while doing everything they can to undermine Israel’s Labour Party) is because the evangelical Christians want Israel and the Jews to be destroyed in Armageddon.
This is but one of many reasons why Jewish Americans are opposed to Bush’s Iraq madness in even greater numbers than most other Americans — and are horrified at Bush in general, especially Bush’s determination to back anti-semitic preachers with America’s tax dollars. (Even the more conservative Jewish leaders are backing away from Bush and Bush’s nutcase base.)
February 28th, 2006 at 10:07 ampoi (continued) we would support tapping of anyones phones WITH A WARRENT as directed by law.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:08 amUAE, per Bush’s own State Dept. Human Rights report:
“Traditional rule in the emirates generally is patriarchal, with political allegiance defined in terms of loyalty to the tribal leaders, to the leaders of the individual emirates, and to the leaders of the federation. There are no democratically elected institutions or political parties. There are no general elections…”
“Citizens do not have the right to change their government. The Government restricted freedom of speech and of the press. The press practiced self-censorship. The Government restricted free assembly and association, and it restricted religious freedom by banning proselytizing of Muslims. The Government restricted the rights of workers, many of whom were not protected by labor laws. There are no labor unions. There were poor working conditions for some laborers, failure to pay wages, and abuse of foreign domestic servants in an economy in which 98 percent of the private sector workforce is foreign. There were no independent human rights organizations. Trafficking in women as prostitutes and very young foreign boys as camel jockeys continue to be serious problems, despite government pledges to end these practices.”
Ladies and gentlemen–our allies? Or the country the Neocons should be suggesting we invade next in the Forced March of Freedom?
February 28th, 2006 at 10:08 amHey, calm down folk, I did not think anyone was Jew baiting.
I was about to say Thanks for keeping the story alive when I saw this story on the boards.
Lotta morons still think the Port Deal is gonna go through.
I was happy to see Lautenberg also has a bill to protect ports.
Here’s the Lautenberg bill
Here’s the Senate email list
Let’s go to work and stop this moronic deal.
Thanks folks, have a nice day.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:09 amAnd meanwhile, note that Bush-worshiping POI wasn’t able to disprove the solid fact that the UAE-owned-and-operated Dubai Ports World not only refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist, but is participating in a boycott of Israel.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:10 amLook for North Korea to be tapped to run the airports, and poi will have no objections. His confusion comes about by the decision he has to make whether to put his head all the way up his own or Bush’s ass.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:11 amNot all liberals find common cause wih the Palestinians. I think both sides have done heinous things and both sides have suffered and it is time for them to realize it, put it all behind them and find a way to peace. The UAE’s boycott of Israeli products does not help that. Arab countries still haven’t dealt with Israel’s very existence, and, until they accept it, we just have to limit our economic involvement.
The Bushies definitely have double standards, tho. And there’s no way to cover up the fact that Dubai’s ties to terrorism, to al Qaeda, to the 9/11 attacks, and to anti-Israel sentiment are far stronger than Saddam Hussein’s ever were.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:12 amMinnieB9: POI is trying the old “distract from the facts” trick. The cure is to continually show the facts he doesn’t want us to see.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:12 amAnd here’s Bob Menendez’s web site, he is of course the spearheading leader against the moronic port deal.
Thanks again.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:12 amI am a liberal who supports Israel and I consider this to be a major, major point.
Conservatives can claim they support Israel all they want but the President’s actions are going to speak louder than his words to me. It’s wrong to do business with any nation that boycotts Israel and refuses to recognize its right to exist.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:13 amPhoenix woman, thanks for the info. I will keep it in mind.
Ronjazz, hilarious.
Meanwhile, let’s work on Captain Exxon Valdez as head of the EPA.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:15 amPost 42 MFA > UAE is also a big hangout for the fabulously wealthy international elite > Dubai has clubs and discos and prostitutes galore to cater to elite’s every whim! Bush just needs to admit why he and his dad like the place so much > lol.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:16 amThat’s odd, as most of the Israelis I’ve met are liberals.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:18 am#51 Jay > “Bush just needs to admit why he and his dad like the place so much”
Um, naked-underage-boy-camel-jockeys-crude-oil-wrestling?
Sorry, didn’t mean to go there.
…
February 28th, 2006 at 10:20 amPoint Of Sh*t: Under FISA, *ANYBODY* could’ve gotten a WARRANT to tap
the UAE terrorists EVEN AFTER THE FACT.
Fascists, like Bush, and their slavish supporters, like YOU, want to be able
to tap anyone, anywhere, anytime for any reason (including Oppo Research
for POLITICAL campaigns) with no oversight or consequences for foul ups.
Your strawman libbruls who want terrorists to be able to whatever they
want simply don’t exist. That you think they do shows just how simple
minded you are. Liberals believe in DUE PROCESS. They believe in ALL of
the Bill of Rights, not just the 2nd. I hope someday you get mistaken for
a criminal or terrorist so you can feel what it’s like to not receive DUE
PROCESS.
They don’t have DUE PROCESS in UAE, either. How did you retards go so
February 28th, 2006 at 10:23 amquickly from “if you’re friends of terrorists and we make no distinction
b/w citizens and their harboring gummints” like Bush circa 2002 to “sure,
let a Theocratic Oligarchy with ties to Bin Laden obtain visas to live and
work in the USA’s port towns”? It’s all about the Benjamins, and your real
desire for another 9/11 so you can have your fascist One Party State (and
emulate your pals in the UAE).
“jew baiting like this will keep you there.”
Apparently TP is the one boycotting Israel.
Fucking pathetic.
-GSD
February 28th, 2006 at 10:24 am#3 (NeD) To say that progressives hate Isreal is simply stupid. That statement makes all of your posts moot.
Hell, I speak Yiddish and I am a progressive. I suppose that makes your post wrong. What about progressive Jews?
I take it you are for the Dubai deal?
February 28th, 2006 at 10:24 amwhat is “jew baiting”?
February 28th, 2006 at 10:26 am#52 — “That’s odd, as most of the Israelis I’ve met are liberals.”
Liar!!! Next thing you know you’ll be telling me they have universal health care!!!
Oh, wait…
…
February 28th, 2006 at 10:26 am57)
I think “Jew baiting” is where you leave a matza bread crumb trail in the attempt to trick a jew into following you to your southern baptist church…
February 28th, 2006 at 10:29 amThe real interesting aspect of this is: “How will the famous contortionist Joementum pretzel around to still kiss Bush’s ass?
February 28th, 2006 at 10:31 amPost 53 MFA > LOL you got it! Every kinky whim you can think of would be granted to you in UAE, if you are an elite! Those camel boys do not just ride camels > hint!
February 28th, 2006 at 10:31 am4. The nice thing about being a NeoCon is that you don’t have to THINK.
The point of the post is BushCo’s hypocrisy, of which this is just another example.
Bush wants another 9/11 so he can suspend the Constitution.
Comment by ElectricBassPlayer
I agree with BassPlayer in essence … but think it’s not unlikely that not if but when there’s a crisis related to the port operations by this UAE owed company it wont be long before yoou’ll be hearing Bush and the other Risk game playing international murders claiming that now UAE is our enemy and they must take military action (thus invading and occupying another “game piece location”. Remember all the enemy’s we’ve been presented with over the long run were just prior to there being attacked, allies of our’s. Think of the picture of Rumsfeld with his arm around Saddamn Hussein, or more to the point look at the hundreds of millions we funneled to Osama bin Laden to arm and motivate them against the Russian military. Noreiaga was very useful when Iran-contra wanted to import drugs into major metropolitan areas of the United States to skim drug prifits to fund illegally declared wars the U.S. sponsored because congress wouldnt approve it.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:31 am#31 – would you have supported tapping those two UAE terrorists’ phones without a warrant? NO. So STFU and stop pretending that you care about fighting terror. You care about scoring political points and playing to people’s fears.
“STFU” is not generally considered a valid debate technique.
Using it pretty much makes it clear that you have no facts to present to support your position.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:32 amDemocrats are playing into people’s fears because Dubai is an Arab country and they are lying about it for cover. You pigs are helping them. Short term, it’s a winner, but long term a real loser. For example, Hillary supports racial profiling of Arab countries. John Zogby might not lie about her poll numbers to help her.
Shorter person of interest:
I was against the Arabs before I was for them!
February 28th, 2006 at 10:33 am#59
LOLOLOLOL!!!!one!!1111!
February 28th, 2006 at 10:38 amThis is Jew baiting for sure. The bigger issue is these UAE Dubai scumbags trying to control CNN.
Where’s the CNN story?
February 28th, 2006 at 10:39 amBushitler is having some Drums of Heaven for lunch today.
Bushitler doesn’t smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, nor does he eat pork.
He’s a wolf at your door who enjoys lamb chops.
He’s also the embodiment of salvation.
Whatever Dubai Ports World does is ok with Bushitler.
Hell Bells, if Dubai Ports World boycotts the 22 US ports they now servee, Bushitler would excuse that action too.
Bushitler can do no wrong.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:40 amPOI – “Democrats are playing into people’s fears because Dubai is an Arab country and they are lying about it for cover.”
LOL Democrats playing into people’s fears? Wholly crap man. Let’s get this straight shall we. “Saddam has WMD and will use them against us.” “Do we wait for a mushroom cloud or get Saddam now?” “Saddam IS al-quaeda.” “Put your savings in stocks or you won’t have anything when you retire.” “You better clean up your act or God will make a disaster out of your city.”
POI, you can’t possibly believe the Democrats are fear mongering and be blind to the fear mongering of the Almighty NeoCons…. well obviously you can, but you appear stupid in doing so.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:46 amThe ReichWingNuts are holding on tightly to their lies and deceptions. But Amerika may finally be waking up to a few facts surrounding King George.
…the Bush administration has faced increasing sectarian violence and fears of civil war in Iraq as well as strong bipartisan congressional opposition to a deal allowing an Arab state-owned company to operate six key U.S. ports.
According to the poll, 70 percent believe the Dubai Ports World transaction should not be allowed to go through while only 21 percent did not see the ports deal as a problem…
[from: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060228/pl_nm/bush_poll_dc ]
February 28th, 2006 at 10:49 amPost 66 > Lou Dobbs will mention the attempted blackmail against CNN by UAE/DPW corp. on his program tonight! CNN has been banned from reporting any news from UAE now and all the ports controlled by DPW corp. worldwide!
February 28th, 2006 at 10:49 amI was gonna post on the whole “im a pro-israel pro-palestine liberal jew and POI is a racist tard” thread, but i cant stop laughing over 59 and 65.
But while im here, I encourage everyone to check out these folks:
http://www.btvshalom.org
“Brit Tzedek v’Shalom, the Jewish Alliance for Justice and Peace, is a national organization of American Jews deeply committed to Israel´s well-being through the achievement of a negotiated settlement to the long-standing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”
Make sure to sign up on the email list on the left-hand side… Not too many emails, and calls to action on legislation here in the states that promote peace in Israel/Palestine. Good stuff.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:50 amLiberals could careless about Israel. PERIOD.
unlike conservatives, who only give a damn because isreal’s existence fits into their ‘end times’ scenario. which of course includes the utter destruction of israel and the jewish people, who burn in hell forever.
yeah, you guys really care.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:51 amThe Christians want to control your life because the bible kind of tells them to. The Christians want to control womens rights because the bible kind of tells them to. The Christians want to have Isreal destroyed because the bible predicts it. The Christians believe the haves should control the have nots because the bible kind of tells them they should. The Christians belive Bush because he says God talks to him.
There, a little Christian baiting to take the heat of the Jews.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:51 amAnti-sem card? Oh my god, what the HELL? Well I will pull out the corporatism card, becase that’s what this is about…and YES, newsflash, it’s supposed to be against trade policy to to business with entities that boycott Israel…that’s very clear. And of course the UAE does this.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:59 amPOI is someone who will never spew anything but what Bush tells him to. I was listening to Air America last night and a Republican caller called up and was defending Bush. The question was asked:
I was watching the inspectors on the ground in Iraq plowing missles, while the president was at the same time telling me that Sadam was not allowing weapons inspectors into the country. Am I suppose to believe my lying eyes or Bush? He said Bush.
This is the mindless zombies that this party has. They will follow no matter what the FACTS tell them.
Sorry, POI but you and your hatred are loosing. Just look at the polls….. 34% approval and 75% of the troops want us out of Iraq. Bush your doing a heckofajob.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:01 am73)
A “Family Guy” version might be ..”Jew baiting” is where you leave a trail of matza bread crumbs in an attempt to trick a jew into coming to your house to do your financial planing for you…
February 28th, 2006 at 11:02 am66 & 72, Ariana Huffington has a snippet of the lou Dobbs/CNN story, which they linked from Crooks & Liars.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:06 am“The parent company of a Dubai-based firm at the center of a political storm in the US over the purchase of American ports participates in the Arab boycott against Israel, The Jerusalem Post has learned.”
Yep, that should about seal the deal for the Filthy Left. I mean, how bad can a bunch of Jew hating Muslims be, really?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:09 am#75 So there’s the question I’d ask Chimpy if I could:
“Mr President, do you think that Israel moving its capital to Jerusalem will hasten the Second Coming and therefore should this be a declared foreign policy goal of the United States?”
February 28th, 2006 at 11:11 amoh thats right i forgot the bushies have claim to any affection for israel because gramps did biznezz with the nazis!!
and they own mrs. king and rosa parks because they always had colored help.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:12 am82)
We don’t know ..and that is the problem. Being “insecure” about the answer to that question is the whole problem. How are we suppose to tell which arabs are normal people and which were brought up with hate mongering … religious fundamentalist…. racist parents?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:13 am#84, how much oil does Israel have? I think I know which way Chimpy and the Organgrinders at Carlyle will go…
February 28th, 2006 at 11:16 am#82 “Reich Between The Eyes”
February 28th, 2006 at 11:18 amCould you clarify your position?
It would appear that IRI didn’t read any of the posts prior to his posting lies about his opponents.
What I haven’t read on the thread yet is another aspect of this whole thread. That is that CONSERVATIVES and REPUBLICAN are livid being asked to support this deal. Go to Redstate (only those with strong stomachs, please) and read their bile.
So, why are you bushpuppets only singling out liberals? What do you think of your own who are on our side?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:24 amFROM CRIME SCENE AND SCANDAL…THE LAME DUCK “BUSHEVIKS” WALK.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:26 amIN TIME, THEY MAY EVEN ‘FLY THE COOP’.
#89 Kindness Reagan said repugs should never say anything bad about other repugs, so they can’t talk about each other.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:27 am[...] You’d almost think they didn’t have any more career diplomats left to tell them these things… oh wait, they chased them all away, didn’t they? The parent company of a Dubai-based firm at the center of a political storm in the US over the purchase of American ports participates in the Arab boycott against Israel, The Jerusalem Post has learned. [...]
February 28th, 2006 at 11:27 am#82 “Reich Between The Eyesâ€
Could you clarify your position?
Comment by Feudal Press
The Filthy Left are in bed with the Islamofascist. Both hate Israel. Therefore it is characteristically hypocritical of the Filthy Left via Judd’s post to make much ado about the UAE’s corporate satellite being involved in a boycott of Israel as if it were a genuine reason for being against the deal.
As a matter of fact the entirety of Think Communist’s position on the Port contract is hypocritical since in every other issue they fall squarely on the side of the Islamist threat to our country. How’s that?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:29 amAs a matter of fact the entirety of Think Communist’s position on the Port contract is hypocritical since in every other issue they fall squarely on the side of the Islamist threat to our country. How’s that?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 11:29 am
Wrong as usual.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:33 amIRI, what are you on? It must be some good shit.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:34 amiri changed his meds – AGAIN.
Guy, why don’t you try to go to one of those fancy Mexican Clinics…. You know, like the one that helped Coretta King so much. We’d all be much obliged.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:35 amIRI had a big gulp of the coolaid this morning.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:36 amIRI–
Sense when have progressives EVER supports religious fundamentalist crazies? We dont support them here in America… we dont support them in the middle east.. we dont support what they did throughout history to murder millions.
Your argument is rediculous. Most jews are not on the right. Most are on the left. So how is it the left hates Israel? The left does not like Israels religious fundamentalists and their murdering/ethnic cleansing ways.
Pointing out the rights Hypocrisy is NOT siding with anybody. It is simply pointing out that the right can not be trusted on their word.
And what is your problem with communists? This administration works in the same thugster ways as the communists. The left demands consent of the people. You are really in an upside down world there IRI…
February 28th, 2006 at 11:37 amWhat is at issue here is this; why aren’t we looking at AMERICANS to run AMERICAN ports? It don’t matter what side of this you sit on, the Bush administration is giving comfort and aid to the enemy, that’s treason. The UAE is a terror state bent on the spread of a hateful ideaology and if you are for them, you are against us. Bush hates America and is trying to turn over crucial ports to help them destroy us.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:37 amWe must fight them over there so we can let them run our ports over here.
Not one dime to the democratically elected Hamas Palestinians because they do not recognize Israel.
Dubai is our ally because they to do recognize Israel.
I just don’t understand this guy. He honestly won 2 elections? Oh wait, the key word here is honestly… never mind.
Peace, back by popular demand!
February 28th, 2006 at 11:38 amBack in 2004, they had a word for this…I think it was “flip flop”.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:39 amAs a matter of fact the entirety of Think Communist’s position on the Port contract is hypocritical since in every other issue they fall squarely on the side of the Islamist threat to our country. How’s that?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 11:29 am
IRI – Does that mean that because Think Progress is Islamist threats in this instance – that you are for them?
Well thought out IRI! I see your point.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:41 am“Judd – real classy. Play the Israel card. You NEVER once criticized Cindy Sheehan and other liberal Democrats when they slammed Israel. But now that you need to attack Bush, you roll out the ole anti-Sem charge.
An ounce of intellectual honesty could take you a long way. Enjoy minority party status because hateful jew baiting like this will keep you there.”
I think you fail to grasp nuance, POI. Here’s the argument:
1. The US has laws against doing business with any foreign entity which participates in the Arab boycott of Israel.
2. The entity in question participates in said boycott.
3. Ergo, it is against US law to do business with this entity.
Is this “jew baiting”? Look, whether we agree with the policies of Israel or not, and I’m not aware of any Cindy Sheehan Shenanigans re: hatred of Israel. If she made some comments on slanted US policies toward Israel, fine; and the law in question is certainly one. But it’s the law nonetheless. Keep drinking your Kool Aid and watching the Administration break laws.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:42 amDP World’s announcement is nothing more than playing demagoguery to the UAE public opinion (and the larger Middle East public) arising from the outcry over the port deal.
It really goes to the heart of the port deal, that a state owned corporation is indeed a state actor.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:43 amMe think it is more about the Bush family that the United States of America and National Security, or anything else.
The multi-million, if not billions to Carlyle Group, the Bush Sr Presidential library, Neil Bush company, etc., etc.,…
Bush family business as usual.
It is great if the UAE is helping in terrorism, have they contributed funds to rebuild Iraq or how about funds to rebuild are devastated Gulf coast? It appears they just let us dock our ships. Is that it? That is called helping in the war in terrorism, when they contributed so much to the creation of it! It is too bad the company is state owned, which further complicates this. It didn’t help that this arrangement was done in an odd underhanded manner and not applying the law. In fact future record keeping is going to be kept not on US soil, but elsewhere so they can hide. Should we really reward a corporation owned by a country that created two of the hijackers and a country that laudered money? Have they changed anything so money can’t be laudered, so they won’t create new terrorists, and they’ll stop current ones? The points below (from thinkprogress), have they been addressed:
– The UAE was one of three countries in the world to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.
– The UAE has been a key transfer point for illegal shipments of nuclear components to Iran, North Korea and Lybia.
– According to the FBI, money was transferred to the 9/11 hijackers through the UAE banking system.
– After 9/11, the Treasury Department reported that the UAE was not cooperating in efforts to track down Osama Bin Laden’s bank accounts.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:43 amWell, at least the Cons are beginning to speak up!
NeoCon Architect Declares NeoCon Movement a Failure
Says Iraq War a Mistake, Compares Bush Policies to ‘Leninism’
Crumbling down.
One of the original Neocon architects and a signer of the infamous PNAC letter, Francis Fukuyama, says the movement has failed and has “evolved into something I can no longer support,” according to this report.
Further, he makes what can only be seen as an exceedingly uncomfortable — yet perfectly apt –comparison between the Bush Administration policies and … Leninism.
-His signature is here:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
-Here’s an interview with the man:
aurora.icaap.org/archive/fukuyama.html
-Here’s a report on the man:
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=266122006
—
Lawrence B. Wilkerson was Chief of Staff at the Department of State from August 2002 to January 2005.
An excerpt from a recent interview on PBS 2/03/06:
DAVID BRANCACCIO: We’ve been talking grand policy. The then director of the CIA, George Tenent, Vice President Cheney’s deputy Libby, told you that the intelligence that was the basis of going to war was rock solid. Given what you now know, how does that make you feel?
LAWRENCE WILKERSON: It makes me feel terrible. I’ve said in other places that it was– constitutes the lowest point in my professional life. My participation in that presentation at the UN constitutes the lowest point in my professional life.
I participated in a HOAX on the American people, the international community and the United Nations Security Council. How do you think that makes me feel? Thirty-one years in the United States Army and I more or less end my career with that kind of a blot on my record? That’s not a very comforting thing.
http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/wilkerson.html—
February 28th, 2006 at 11:45 amThe hypocracy of the Bush admin is all tied to greed. More and more people are understanding this. Where is that picture of Bush holding hands with a Shiek?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:45 amIRI – Does that mean that because Think Progress is Islamist threats in this instance – that you are for them?
Well thought out IRI! I see your point.
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist
Try again and this time speak English.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:46 amIgnore I-Right-I > he ran out of prozac and thorizine today, so he is un-medicated and delusional! If he does not get his meds soon he might strip naked and call himself the Fuhrer Aldolf Hitler > lol.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:47 amJack,
The UAE contributed more to help rebuild the Gulf Coast than any other country. Strangely, this donation came only weeks before the port deal was headed toward completion.
February 28th, 2006 at 11:47 amKC
Once again, chump change. The real payoff is the middle east free trade agreement (MEFTA).
February 28th, 2006 at 11:50 amBob, here’s a good one:
http://www.theagitator.com/archives/DMN04-26-05.jpg
February 28th, 2006 at 11:51 amIRI – Does that mean that because Think Progress is Islamist threats in this instance – that you are for them?
Well thought out IRI! I see your point.
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist
Try again and this time speak English.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @
Thanks for the correction Monkey-Boy!
I meant to say – Does that mean that because Think Progress is against Islamist threats in this instance – that you are for them?
Well are you?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:53 am“Once again, chump change. The real payoff is the middle east free trade agreement (MEFTA).”
I don’t think it was “chump change”, and I’m not defending the deal at all. Just want all the facts out there.
Unfortunately, the real story is: BushCo Cronyism and piss-poor management of ANYTHING by this administration. Nobody knew WTH was going on, and the deal basically got rubber stamped because Snow had recent ties to the company (probably made quite a bit on the sale of his old company to the Dubai company) These were supposed to be the “adults” coming to Washington to clean things up. Well, if they ran a business like they run the Presidency, it would have collapsed long ago. See: any business ever fronted by GWB.
BTW – any links to this MEFTA?
February 28th, 2006 at 11:55 amThat’s the one bentpatriot. Thanks. See how comfortable Bush is? LOL
February 28th, 2006 at 11:56 amAn old one on MEFTA:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/06/20040609-37.html
February 28th, 2006 at 11:57 amBob, the pic is good, the top caption better, but the side panel says it all!
Hahaha!
February 28th, 2006 at 11:58 amFatty – I am just pointing out the obvious. Liberals could careless about Israel. PERIOD.
Comment by person of interest — February 28, 2006 @ 9:35
why shoulk the usa protect aipac spys?
that Lie and Steal?
Did you forget about franklin and the 83 pages of secret Data he Took home?
A Im not a Liberal
B I dont like liars
C I dont like spys
D A few LEADERS of Israel have DECIDED
to Lie, that reflects poorly upon the Country Of Israel.
Israel Speaks much of Hate, and how they Dont wish to be hated, yet they foment Hate thru media.
I do not hate anyone. Lie to me, anyone, The United States and you have lost a friend., such is why Bush and Roves Lies have caught up to them. People dont like to be lied to and they dont like Liars
February 28th, 2006 at 11:59 amSimple enough
Color or religion not required to lie
Capice?
I apologize to you KC, I in no way meant to impugn your integrity.
Just google MEFTA of UAE free trade. While you are at it, google the Oman/UAE natural gas pipeline, as this is the bling bling of MEFTA.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:00 pmIRI–
Sense when have progressives EVER supports religious fundamentalist crazies? We dont support them here in America… we dont support them in the middle east.. we dont support what they did throughout history to murder millions.
Comment by Gerald Gibson —
The Filthy Left Supports the Palestinians openly against Israel. The Filthy Left has never used the word terrorist when freedom fighter would do. The Filthy Left sent human shields to the Middle East. The Filthy Left Does business with Iran, Syria and every moon god worshiping throat slitter on the globe. The Filthy Left supports the throat slitters with high tech weapons, nuclear hardware, delivery systems and the means to produce bombs. The Filthy Left is a global entity that includes many Democrats and so called progressives. The proof is in the newspapers every day. Who do you think funds the anti-American anti-war effort, peace loving dope smoking hippies?
Your argument is rediculous. Most jews are not on the right. Most are on the left. So how is it the left hates Israel? The left does not like Israels religious fundamentalists and their murdering/ethnic cleansing ways.
Left Wing self hating Jews are a dime a dozen in this country and they HATE Israel. They’ve hated Israel ever since they stopped being a socialist experiment in the Middle East.
Pointing out the rights Hypocrisy is NOT siding with anybody. It is simply pointing out that the right can not be trusted on their word.
And what is your problem with communists? This administration works in the same thugster ways as the communists. The left demands consent of the people. You are really in an upside down world there IRI…
What is my problem with communists? How old are you ten?
February 28th, 2006 at 12:00 pmNobody knew WTH was going on, and the deal basically got rubber stamped because Snow had recent ties to the company (probably made quite a bit on the sale of his old company to the Dubai company.
Comment by KC — February 28, 2006 @ 11:55 am
Don’t fool yourself – Bush knew. He just wants to distance himself from the decision making process just in case he can’t convince the base that this really was a good idea.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:00 pmOk post 115 >> I have a friend who served in the Korean War > he was stationed at the Chosen Dam when the Chinese hordes swept down pushing our troops into retreat. He was a machinegunner and he said the Chinese were so thick they looked like swarming locusts. His platoon mowed down hundreds of Chinese soldiers until they ran out of ammunition. Then their position was overran and he fled for his life > he was the only member of his platoon to survive.
This is a true story as told to me by a Korean war hero!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:01 pmSnow was chairman of the CSX rail firm that sold its own international port operations to DP World for $1.15 billion in 2004, the year after Snow left for President Bush’s cabinet.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:02 pmIRI Boychild
Son get your ass to school! As for your support of Israel, funny coming from the boychild who said “dirty jews”, “leftist jew pigs”, and on and on. Best just to allow nature to take it’s course and mature.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:04 pmThe Filthy Left Supports the Palestinians openly against Israel. The Filthy Left has never used the word terrorist when freedom fighter would do. The Filthy Left sent human shields to the Middle East. The Filthy Left Does business with Iran, Syria and every moon god worshiping throat slitter on the globe. The Filthy Left supports the throat slitters with high tech weapons, nuclear hardware, delivery systems and the means to produce bombs. The Filthy Left is a global entity that includes many Democrats and so called progressives. The proof is in the newspapers every day. Who do you think funds the anti-American anti-war effort, peace loving dope smoking hippies?
thats fuuny IRI guess you missed the support of HAMAS and the norquist deals with them.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:04 pmVERY right WING.
But Continue please I always need a good SPIN to laugh away the Day.
I can’t find a link but I remember reading at the onset of the Dubai story that Snow was also set to personally receive 100 million when they closed the P&O / Dubai deal…
Anyone know more about this? I only saw it in passing.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:05 pmBentpatriot
Don’t forget that the Carlyle group owned then sold CSX for twice what they paid after a year. Then of course, the Carlyle group also bid for P&O.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:06 pmI meant to say – Does that mean that because Think Progress is against Islamist threats in this instance – that you are for them?
Well are you?
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist
I’m going to use small words and type very slowly. Think Communist is NOT against Islamist threats. They welcome them. The Filthy Left prints lies like the “Koran in the Toilet” story to make matters worse. Anything to bring down our government is a good thing to the Filthy Left in America and around the world. What they hate is America, not Islamists. What they hate is George Bush, not the port deal. Can you hear me now?
February 28th, 2006 at 12:07 pmBentpatriot
Don’t forget that the Carlyle group owned then sold CSX for twice what they paid after a year. Then of course, the Carlyle group also bid for P&O.
Comment by Citizen80203 —
Carlyle money helps pay for this site. Don’t knock it.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:08 pmAlso, let us not forget that Kellogg Brown & Root own natural gas pipeline operations contract.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:08 pmCMON IRI admit the age old lie.
The Khazar Jews (the liars) cloak themselves in the Jewish Faith.
Just Like Bush (Liar) cloaks himself in Christianity
Right Wing Doesnt care about Israel , they care about their worldwide war mongering Crime League
The Left does care about the people. just not Liars that run Israel
February 28th, 2006 at 12:09 pmThe Filthy Left Supports the Palestinians openly against Israel. The Filthy Left has never used the word terrorist when freedom fighter would do.
Supporting peoples right to live without ethnic cleansing has nothing to do with supprting their religious craziness.
The Filthy Left sent human shields to the Middle East. The Filthy Left Does business with Iran, Syria and every moon god worshiping throat slitter on the globe.
Links? Or just more moronic assertions?
The Filthy Left supports the throat slitters with high tech weapons, nuclear hardware, delivery systems and the means to produce bombs. The Filthy Left is a global entity that includes many Democrats and so called progressives. The proof is in the newspapers every day. Who do you think funds the anti-American anti-war effort, peace loving dope smoking hippies?
If it is in the papers everyday then provide a SINGLE link. The people you are talking about here is actually Pakistan, UAE, Saudi Arabia…
Left Wing self hating Jews are a dime a dozen in this country and they HATE Israel. They’ve hated Israel ever since they stopped being a socialist experiment in the Middle East.
Dont call them self hating jews… call them antisemites ..it would make as much sense.
What is my problem with communists? How old are you ten?
Some how I knew when I posted that you would totally miss the point that YOUR president acts like the communists… and you didnt let me down… totally predictable.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:09 pmAnything to bring down our government is a good thing to the Filthy Left in America and around the world. What they hate is America, not Islamists. What they hate is George Bush, not the port deal. Can you hear me now?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 12:07 pm
I hear a Liar
Lying MORE
February 28th, 2006 at 12:09 pmBob, more:
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/413f7497zec90335d/awol_coward_bush/__sr_/4d06re2.jpg?pfGUIBEByyUpnk5o
February 28th, 2006 at 12:10 pmI only knock you IRI boychild.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:10 pmGeorge is a Liar
February 28th, 2006 at 12:12 pmSo is Snow
and Chertoff
these Deals are Crony thru and thru
Right Wing Liars
I-Right-I > go get the refills on your medications immediately! You are going nuts on here and it shows!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:12 pmThe Filthy Left prints lies like the “Koran in the Toilet†story to make matters worse. -IRI
Dont throw Korans in the toilet and there would be no story to print… its called self control and self responsibility.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:13 pmFunny thing is Mr Ho,
This just may kill the port deal. Although, their greed will push it to the end.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:13 pmbentpatriot, I didn’t notice the column on banning gay unions. That is too ironic for words.
IRI, Why do you have to generalize everything? By your logic, Bush supports terrorism by giving them another country to practice thier methods. Shit your ignorant. Oh, for your benefit i g n o r a n t.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:15 pmCarlyle money helps pay for this site. Don’t knock it.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 12:08 pm
Ooh Boy Now Conspiracy theory?
IRI funny how this subject has you up in arms.
Didnt think we would figure out the age old Khazar Lie?
Thats what you work so hard to cover isnt it?
That your perhaps a Jew in religion, but in your heart you are a Liar and a crook, not a JEW but an Edomite, set to destroy, along with Khazar Edomite Bush, the Constitutiion.
Yeah I got your number BB Gun Killer
February 28th, 2006 at 12:16 pm“The Filthy Left sent human shields to the Middle East. The Filthy Left Does business with Iran, Syria and every moon god worshiping throat slitter on the globe.”
Dude, are you for real? No. I’m really asking, and I’m only going to ask once:
Do you need me to post links that prove that what you say is false? Not only false about the “left”, but TRUE about the “right”? Do you want me to expose your abject hypocrisy right here?
I await your answer.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:16 pmThe Filthy Left sent human shields to the Middle East. The Filthy Left Does business with Iran, Syria and every moon god worshiping throat slitter on the globe.â€
put down the Mushrooms IRI.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:18 pmYou are Delusional
“The Filthy Left sent human shields to the Middle East. The Filthy Left Does business with Iran, Syria and every moon god worshiping throat slitter on the globe.â€
POI. Who is slinging the racist arrows now?
Watching the right implode is funner than going to the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
-GSD
February 28th, 2006 at 12:18 pmYa know IRI sounds alot like Anne Coulter
February 28th, 2006 at 12:18 pmbentpatriot, the last link you gave didn’t work!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:19 pmI meant to say – Does that mean that because Think Progress is against Islamist threats in this instance – that you are for them?
Well are you?
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist
I’m going to use small words and type very slowly. Think Communist is NOT against Islamist threats. They welcome them. The Filthy Left prints lies like the “Koran in the Toilet†story to make matters worse. Anything to bring down our government is a good thing to the Filthy Left in America and around the world. What they hate is America, not Islamists. What they hate is George Bush, not the port deal. Can you hear me now? Comment by
I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 12:07 pm
IRI – All I hear is a bunch of nonsensical jibber jabber, none of which addresses my question. I can only assume that this avoidance means that you do support terrorists.
It is so sad when good neocons go bad!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:20 pmActually I would rather have an Israeli corporation manage our port operations because they are good at security stuff!
UAE confederated sheikdoms are a nation of smugglers and arms traffickers and opium traders! Not the kind of people you want to run our ports > PERIOD.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:20 pmthats fuuny IRI guess you missed the support of HAMAS and the norquist deals with them.
VERY right WING.
But Continue please I always need a good SPIN to laugh away the Day.
Comment by mr ho —
Norquist is a sleeze ball terrorist loving fucktard and should be in prison along with Abramhoff.
I miss very little.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:20 pmThe Filthy Left prints lies like the “Koran in the Toilet†story to make matters worse.
The filthy Left is?
February 28th, 2006 at 12:21 pmThe Media?
Hell weve proven that to be the Filthy RIGHT.
Ya Know Murdoch Kristol
Noticed how the Bushies are running out of compartments?
February 28th, 2006 at 12:21 pmIRI says left and right yet never SAYS whom they are.
More partisan claptrap I suppose
February 28th, 2006 at 12:22 pmFor more background on the links between Dubai and the Bush White House – and family – see:
February 28th, 2006 at 12:22 pm“Bush, Dubai and the Ties That Bind.”
Bob, try this:
http://www.bvar22.iwarp.com/images/kisssuadi.jpg
Oldie but goodie!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:23 pmWhy do conservatives support nations with terrorist links..
Do they love George W. Bush more than they love America?
-GSD
February 28th, 2006 at 12:25 pmThe filthy left MEDIA is really the Filthy Right Media
Cmon IRI you arent that BLIND are you?
Murdoch=NEO-Con
Kristol=Neo-CON
so your sayiing IRI these RIGHTYS people are LEFTIES?
You have been lying so long IRI you have confused yourself
February 28th, 2006 at 12:25 pmFor gods sake folks
IRI is a boychild of 15. His brain is not fully developed, of course he sounds incoherent.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:25 pmWow the IRI crowd is totally insane, no wonder you hate everyone IRI your Paranoia has you creating enemies all around you.
Better watch out IRI that postman, he may be putting a letter in your mailbox, and he could be a Lefty!!
Run IRI RUN!!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:27 pmIm SOO SCARED!!!
RUN IRI RUN!
#164, yes, but the Hitler Youth grew up and invaded Poland.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:28 pmHow long will the madness last?
Not very, from the looks of it:
Lawrence B. Wilkerson was Chief of Staff at the Department of State from August 2002 to January 2005.
An excerpt from a recent interview on PBS 2/03/06:
DAVID BRANCACCIO: We’ve been talking grand policy. The then director of the CIA, George Tenent, Vice President Cheney’s deputy Libby, told you that the intelligence that was the basis of going to war was rock solid. Given what you now know, how does that make you feel?
LAWRENCE WILKERSON: It makes me feel terrible. I’ve said in other places that it was– constitutes the lowest point in my professional life. My participation in that presentation at the UN constitutes the lowest point in my professional life.
I participated in a HOAX on the American people, the international community and the United Nations Security Council. How do you think that makes me feel? Thirty-one years in the United States Army and I more or less end my career with that kind of a blot on my record? That’s not a very comforting thing.
http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/wilkerson.html—
Gotta love it!!!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:29 pmGood point Terry! However, the boychildren of the US right are so frightened they pose little threat.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:29 pm#For gods sake folks
IRI is a boychild of 15. His brain is not fully developed, of course he sounds incoherent.
Comment by Citizen80203 — February 28, 2006 @ 12:25 pm
Hmm you may be right Citizen. IRI tries to act as an adult. Yet his hatred shows that he is likely, perhaps he really is 15?
How many adults go out and buy BB guns?
IRI how old are your really son?
February 28th, 2006 at 12:30 pmbentpatriot, HAHAHAHAHA Thanks for the laughs. I wonder if Bush got any hair in his teeth. HAHAHAHAHA
February 28th, 2006 at 12:30 pmPNAC fall inevitable!
NeoCon Architect Declares NeoCon Movement a Failure
Says Iraq War a Mistake, Compares Bush Policies to ‘Leninism’
Crumbling down.
One of the original Neocon architects and a signer of the infamous PNAC letter, Francis Fukuyama, says the movement has failed and has “evolved into something I can no longer support,” according to this report.
Further, he makes what can only be seen as an exceedingly uncomfortable — yet perfectly apt –comparison between the Bush Administration policies and … Leninism.
-His signature is here:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
-Here’s an interview with the man:
aurora.icaap.org/archive/fukuyama.html
-Here’s a report on the man:
February 28th, 2006 at 12:30 pmhttp://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=266122006
# 166 – I don’t hate IRI. I love him!
His breathtaking ignorance makes blogging fun. I think Think Progress pays him to rile people up. He does a good job of it.
Thanks IRI!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:33 pmI love this quote about Fukuyama:
Going further, he says the movements’ advocates are Leninists who “believed that history can be pushed along with the right application of power and will. Leninism was a tragedy in its Bolshevik version, and it has returned as farce when practiced by the United States”.
Vote 2006 – Bring your shovel and broom!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:35 pmFree?not
They will last, they constitute 1/3 of the population. Our job is to bitchslap them back into their duck tapped basements and keep them there, feeding them soup and keeping them warm and quiet.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:38 pmFrancis Fukuyama, who wrote the best-selling book The End of History and was a member of the neoconservative project, now says that, both as a political symbol and a body of thought, it has “evolved into something I can no longer support”. He says it should be discarded on to history’s pile of discredited ideologies.
Fukuyama only rehashed Extremist Marxism. it will return again, perhaps another forty years or so, renamed.
Another Ideologie.
Think Tanks are Ideologye based as well, perhaps these will also land on the Garbage heap of rehashed Bad Ideas.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:39 pmGotta add, for the Cons – Mr. Fukuyama was an architect of the PNAC / Neocon movement (alongside Rummy, Jeb, Kristol & Wolfowitz).
I tend to believe that he speaks far more truth, and knows a good deal more about the issues, than any Con supporter one might run into on the myriad boards and blogs, or those types that “love Bush ‘cuz he looks like the kinda guy I could drink a beer with”…
February 28th, 2006 at 12:40 pmDo you need me to post links that prove that what you say is false? Not only false about the “leftâ€, but TRUE about the “rightâ€? Do you want me to expose your abject hypocrisy right here?
I await your answer.
Comment by KC
Knock yourself out loser.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:42 pmAn ounce of intellectual honesty could take you a long way. Enjoy minority party status because hateful jew baiting like this will keep you there.
Comment by person of interest #1
piss ant of no consequence,
Stop whining, you won remember?…
Bushiva’s “freedom” is on the march…
…how do you like UAE and DPW now that they’re boycotting your country (Israel)?
…does this hold up the second coming?
Let’s talk about “intellectual honesty”, shall we?
Is it “intellectually honest” to say that you really “believe” Bushiva when he says that there is no inherent security risk in selling 21 of our ports to the UAE?
Is it intellectually honest to say that Democrats and the opposition oppose this sale because of racism?
…or can the thought that the UAE “MONARCHY” could fall prey to Bushiva’s “democracy” movement and become destabilized at some point in the future, and fall into the hands of Muslim extremists- thus endangering U.S. port security- be relevant?
…remember, Bushiva says “freedom is on the march”…
…in Palestine, where Hamas was democratically elected…
…in Lebannon, where Hezbollah has democracy’s reins…
…in Iraq, where the secular Shi’ia hold the “democratically elected” mantle of power…
…in Iran, where Ahmanhijade (however you spell his name)is the democratically elected president…
…in Venezuela, where Hugo Chavez is ‘da man’…
…looks like Bushiva’s freedom march is having unintended consequences…
…just like everything else his criminal junta touches…
…sell those ports to Dubai, and inside a year we’ll be tearing our hair out wondering how (again) we could’ve been so freakin’ stupid!
…how’s that for “intellectual honesty” piss ant?
February 28th, 2006 at 12:42 pm…big papa your scaring me!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:46 pmNew poll:
34% of people polled love their slum lord…
http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/06/02/AmericaForSale.pdf#search=‘america%20for%20sale’
February 28th, 2006 at 12:49 pmReichWingNuts will never understand. It’s their loss. But there is a very strong case to impeach George W. Bush. The longer he remains in office, the more damage is done to the Constitution and our ability to influence world politics.
For more information, please read:
http://www.harpers.org/TheCaseForImpeachment.html
February 28th, 2006 at 12:49 pm“Knock yourself out loser.”
Comment by I-RIGHT-I
Awww, I see you learned how to use bold face! I think it would be easier to knock your a$$ out, and I didn’t get an answer.
Knock myself out means that I’d be posting for my own benefit. What I am asking you is if you’re admitting to being a hypocrite, or whether you’d like to see some links that prove you are.
Knock yourself out, bitch.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:52 pmThe enemies of my friend’s enemies are my enemies’ friend.
No, no, what a minute. There’s no known knowns that unknown unknowns cannont can answer.
No, no. Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”
Yessssss!
Meanwhile, has anyone here heard about the poll yesterday from Rasmussen saying that 36% of Americans believe we’re losing the war on terror, with only 39% saying we’re winning?
February 28th, 2006 at 12:54 pmBoycotting Israel isn’t a bad Idea but when one considers that they are underwitten (and virtually owned) by the U.S., it is we who should be boycotted. Especially until our foreign policys are brought in line with international law.
February 28th, 2006 at 12:56 pmMan Pleads Not Guilty in Voting Device Case
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/socal/la-me-diebold22feb22,0,33600.story?coll=la-news-politics-local
Bushco to the American people: “Whistleblowin’s bad, unnerstand?”…
February 28th, 2006 at 12:56 pmReichWingNuts, defend that!
February 28th, 2006 at 12:59 pmWatching I-Right-I and POS (oops, I meant POI) tie themselves up in knots over this is so entertaining!
February 28th, 2006 at 1:02 pmThe Filthy Left Supports the Palestinians openly against Israel. The Filthy Left has never used the word terrorist when freedom fighter would do. The Filthy Left sent human shields to the Middle East. The Filthy Left Does business with Iran, Syria and every moon god worshiping throat slitter on the globe.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I #125
Inconsequential-Recidivist-traItor,
…and the TREASONOUS right wing inbreds (that’d be you) amongst whom we live are the worst “throat slitting”, lynch mob, murdering scumsh*t, racist, bastiches to ever draw breath…
…we Progressives would do well to rid our country of you right wing, anti-Christian, pro-alCrackerLife, warmongering, inhuman, Bushba*licking traitors among us…
…finishing what Lincoln started might be the ONLY way to save our union once again…
Oh and one thing you didn’t mention in your delirious diatribe:
“The Filthy Left” has been RIGHT about every issue we’ve protested since this criminal, TREASONOUS, right wing extremist, al Cracker, inbred junta occupied our gov’t in 2000…
…we the Progressives of the WORLD need “weed the garden” of IRIs…
…then the world’s garden can grow the beautiful flowers of peace, brotherhood and prosperity we long for…
February 28th, 2006 at 1:10 pmDubain Firm Is Involved In Israel Boycott…
The White House damage control squad will be working fulltime on this one, reported by the Jersualem Post:
The parent ……
February 28th, 2006 at 1:17 pmComment by free? not:( — February 28, 2006 @ 1:12 pm
“I thought it was going to help,” Bush said.
“I thought it would help remind people that if bin Laden doesn’t want Bush to be the president, something must be right with Bush.”
Some of his most horrifying logic so far. And even scarier, is that he was right – people actually do think like this in this country.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:21 pmKnock myself out means that I’d be posting for my own benefit. What I am asking you is if you’re admitting to being a hypocrite, or whether you’d like to see some links that prove you are.
Knock yourself out, bitch.
Comment by KC
No, I’m with you. Go ahead and post your proof that the Right are actually the socialist scum bags who support Islamofascism, Homosexuality, Treason, Abortion and everything else that is wrong with this country. Post your proof that the Right supports the enemies of free people, women, religious choice and democracy. Then while you’re doing that I’ll find those old pictures of John Kerry sucking the N. Vietnamese and Jimmy Carter kissing every communist thug in the Western Hemisphere.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:24 pmI have been trying to post them for a couple of minutes, and they seem to have been caught in a filter.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:27 pmIRI,
February 28th, 2006 at 1:28 pmYour statement (195) proves many things:
Anti-abortion is anti woman.
Anti-homosexuality is anti free people.
Both of the above are anti-religious choice.
And The PNAC is as close to Leninism as ya can get.
The notion from ‘person of interest’ above that liberals dont give a shit about israel is ridiculous. And he/she knows it but hey, what’s a little dishonesty in the name of nifty-sounding rhetoric and an opportunity to bash liberals?
Do you know how many jews consider themselves “liberal”? A lot. Are they self-hating jews?
You are just miffed that your precious president is willing to sacrifice every principle out there to appease his big oil buddies both here and in the Middle East. Maybe he’s the one that doesn’t give a shit about Israel? But hey, mulling that inconsistency would require thought, wouldn’t it? Knock yourself out.
That all ‘person of interest’ can do is criticize liberals in the face of this news, shows how misguided they are. Liberals aren’t behind this port deal, the POTUS is, but ‘person of interest’ doesn’t even touch on that- he’d rather just bash liberals and ignore the obvoius hypocrisy of this administration.
The “but hey, look over there” strategy is a real loser. See ya in 2006.
February 28th, 2006 at 1:29 pm…big papa your scaring me!
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist #181
G.W.,
…take a deep breath…
February 28th, 2006 at 2:43 pmIMPEACH THIS FOOL
February 28th, 2006 at 2:44 pmWouldn’t it be really exciting if we Americans started to care more about our own country? Did you know that there is a majority of the population living at or below the official poverty level? Did you know that Halliburton is getting a refund on money that it stole from us taxpayers while people who suffered and are suffering from Katrina’s ravages are being put out in the streets? Did you know that soldiers who fought and were horribly maimed by this insane war of the GWB admin are losing benefits? Not a very nice way to treat those that fought for us is it. If a person keeps tabs on the unethical, immoral and horrific deeds being done in this country I’m sure they would come to the conclusion that being liberal is a far better way to be. All the liberals have done was leave the country with a surplus in the economy, international good will and respect for all Americans. That’s all.
February 28th, 2006 at 2:55 pmGo back to work, IRI, you are stealing time.
February 28th, 2006 at 2:59 pmPost your proof that the Right supports the enemies of free people, women, religious choice and democracy.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 1:24 pm
Hmmm….Now that’s a tough one f***nut.
How about South Dakota??? In that backward, primate state, they are all about women and taking control of their uterus.
Yep a real forward looking, freedom marching, religious and personal choice with democratic support of civil rights for all citizens.
A beacon of the right!!
February 28th, 2006 at 3:57 pmI think this is a great example of the White House being hypcritical.
Iran doesn’t recognize Israel — terrorist. Dubai doesn’t recognize Isreal — ally
If the US really wants to make a point, this is the kind of soft diplomacy that could actually have an impact. Instead, it just shows how hypocrital and profit driven motives of this administration.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:03 pmAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! You bloviating ideologues are so boring. “All liberals have done is this.” “All conservatives have done is that.” On and on and on until every issue is just new ground for your fevered egos to do battle. If liberals would wake up to the fact that they are shallow narcisists and Conservatives would realize that are insecure fossils and both sides would realize that they are both pewling, bullied slaves to the same oppressive system we could oust the Clintons and Bushes of this nation and elect someone who truely represented our interests and was capable of bridging the gaps of our differences. This Dubai Ports thing is the latest example of how both sides will latch onto an issue in an attempt to justify their outrage. Let Israel worry about countries and interests that dislike them. All we need to worry about is if Dubai Ports is good for *Americans.*
February 28th, 2006 at 4:05 pmWhat I don’t get is, first, we’re “racist”, because we object to the port deal, and now we’re “Jew haters” ? I can’t keep up.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:07 pmLiberals…stop being such freaking hypocritical. You harshly criticize the Dubai company for it’s support of the Arab boycott of Israel, while at the same time pushing hard for divestment in Israel.
Conservatives…Quit crying. The only reason you support this deal is because Bush touted it and now he’s afraid/incapable to admit his mistake. You’re losing on every issue so hang on this one.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:32 pmIt’s the opportunist arguement syndrome. It shouldn’t be about the Dubai company being Arabice so much as it should be apout ownership of US ports by a foreign state-owned corporation, or for that matter, a corporation at all.
Israel is another story. In a post cold war world, we get nothing but trouble by supporting an essentially European state based on ethnicity and ethnic cleansing in the Middle East. Since we for all intents and purposes own and operate Israel, we should make them pull back to the 1967 borders and end their oppression of Palestinians recognizing their statehood or we should cut them loose and stop the funding. We could spend that money on restoring New Orleans, providing our citizens with health care and improving our schools.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:33 pmIs the personal profit motive behind the Dubai Deal? The Bush Family’s Arab ties have been strong for decades and they are still going on. Try this: Google younger brother “Neil Bush Dubai” and see how he is making millions doing virtually nothing but supplying his surname for influence peddling. They cannot throw enough money at him and he was conducting business in Dubai only weeks before this deal was approved (without the Pres knowing??? Sure.).
February 28th, 2006 at 4:46 pmOur American interests are sold down the Red Sea while Brother Neil lives off of the fat of the sands with high priced hotels and hookers that ruined his marriage and our country’s best interests.
NEIL BUSH –Google him!!!
Post your proof that the Right supports the enemies of free people, women, religious choice and democracy.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 1:24 pm
ok:
Speaking of St. Anne, I like her idea the best. Frankly it’s the only workable solution. “We should invade their countries kill their leaders and convert the rest to Christianity. If I were President that’s exactly what I’d do. I’d begin in Washington D.C.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 3:58 pm
February 28th, 2006 at 4:51 pmFortunately, the U.S. does not “own and operate” Israel. In fact, Israel is extremely independent and goes its own way in dealing with the Palestinians. The Bush administration would love to run Israel and tell them what to do.
The DPW deal is all about money….large amounts of UAE money. For further details see House of Bush, House of Saud. Just as Bush protects the oil interests and the pharmaceutical interests, he is also going to protect the financial interests of UAE and Saudi Arabia.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:51 pmLiberals…stop being such freaking hypocritical. You harshly criticize the Dubai company for it’s support of the Arab boycott of Israel, while at the same time pushing hard for divestment in Israel.
Comment by J-dog — February 28, 2006 @ 4:32 pm
I don’t support the control of our National Security to anyone else. Period. Not hypocritical – common sense.
Though, these days, even trusting our National Security to ourselves may not even be safe….
February 28th, 2006 at 4:53 pmJust curious–folks are arguing this is playing the “Israel card” and represents a double-standard on the part of liberals/progressive–isn’t this more a matter of double-standards on the part of the administration? We shouldn’t discriminate against Arab countries, but it’s okay to reward their discrimination against a Jewish nation. Irrespective of one’s views on who should run these ports, the issue seems typical of this administration’s double-standards, and of course, their veil of secrecy and denial (vis a vis the Coast Guard’s concerns over security and the ignoring of the 45-day requirement for review).
February 28th, 2006 at 4:54 pm208)
This article shows the two-faced nature of the administration and the rightwingers in general. I dont think any liberals have said they now love the ethnic cleansing desires of the religious fundamentalists in Israel. As soon as the Israelis start acting like they have respect for other human beings and make amends for the ethnic cleansing they did after WWII even though they had no right to Palastine at all THEN they will have no more big bitches coming from the left.
The right acts like the left is complaining just to complain with no goal in mind. The goal is simple. Treat your fellow man like you are your brothers keeper. I can not think of a topic off the top of my head that would no be solved from a liberals point of view as long as that one thing was done. But people on the right from America to the middle east refuse to act that way even though most of their religions tell them to do exactly that.
The republicans can play all the money schemes they want with hardly a peep from the left if they would simply not trample the small guy in the process. Republicans can have any religious views they want…they can NEVER have an abortion…as long as they keep it to themselves liberals could not care less.
Is it REALLY that hard to put respect of other human beings BEFORE your whim of the day? It doesn’t mean being a bleeding heart. Just stop yourself when you are about to USE or ABUSE some other person. Find a different way of accomplishing your goal.
Very few liberals want to make life hard on the righties. They mostly want the righties to mind their own business or if they MUST be involved then put respect for basic humanity before anything else.
February 28th, 2006 at 5:08 pmBig Al
You do know that Israel could not exist as a modern society without America and its free money right? They would not be able to have a modern military at all. We give them the money they use to buy that equipment from us. Go read Haaretz.com Israel is having real problems with poverty. If America pulled out its money Israel would be screwed.
February 28th, 2006 at 5:12 pm[...] Dubai Ports World Boycotts Israel Ontario might claw back federal child-care cash [...]
February 28th, 2006 at 5:14 pmThis article shows the two-faced nature of the administration and the rightwingers in general. I dont think any liberals have said they now love the ethnic cleansing desires of the religious fundamentalists in Israel.
Comment by Gerald Gibson
Stop right there. You’re out of you f’ing mind. Judd’s post clearly shows the hypocrisy of the Filthy Left. You dipshits would be cheering for Dubai if you didn’t see how this could make Bush look bad. It’s the Right that supports Israel. It’s the Left who conveniently neglects to mention that their poor Palestinian freedom fighter/victims of JOOOO oppression have it in their Charter to destroy Israel and kill every man, woman and child. God Damn you Leftist Lying Fucks!
Fundamentalist Jews, you shit for brained ignorant jackoff don’t want to kill ANYONE let alone do a little needed ethnic cleansing in the area. In fact most of the fundamentalist Jews live in New York City and think the state of Israel is an abomination because God Himself did not take them by the hand and lead them back. They are as Zionist as the throat slitters in Iran.
Ok, I guess that about covers it. There’s really no reason Gerald that you have to be fat, ugly AND ignorant. Now you know, carry on.
February 28th, 2006 at 5:46 pmLet me tell you how you can take control of your uterus sweetheart…keep your legs closed.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 6:08 pm
You only hope that never happens… You know that blow up doll just isn’t as much fun as a real live woman.
February 28th, 2006 at 6:13 pmToo many rants to enumerate on too many threads- IRI,
February 28th, 2006 at 6:21 pmOMG, so many attempts at character suicide and yet to hit the grey matter – perhaps Dead Eye Cheney could assist you, just tell him – wide open choke. You have to do that when trying to hit a brain as small as a Quayle’s. Potatoe anyone?
I can’t believe a right winger actually stated above that the “filthy left does business with Iran”- hello? Haliburton does MAJOR business with Iran. Does that bother the Right? I doubt it.
Your hypocrisy in all things knows no bounds.
Have you noticed that the folks on the right can never seem to address the issue at hand (the UAE being part of a boycott against Israel) but instead just go right into their “you lefties hate Israel”, “you lefties hate america”- blah blah blah?
To simply claim your ideological opponent “hates America” as a response to all things, just shows an incredible weakness and inability to argue one’s position.
The same thing goes for the silly claim that all of us on the left hate Israel or are anti-semites. I would expect better of a 6 year old.
And for our evangelical righty friends here making such infantile argument, check out this link:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200504130003
The far right’s support of Israel seems to have more to do with their fear/dislike of Islam and the belief that they will inherit Israel at the Rapture than any true respect of Israeli/Jewish culture or religion.
February 28th, 2006 at 6:36 pm#25 POI:
Ridiculous. First, many conservatives and Republicans think this deal stinks so your claims are pretty meaningless as they don’t take into account this obvious fact.
Second, for YOU to play the race card really shows what a hypocrite you are, considering your very first post accusing Judd of doing the same. Duh.
To claim that people oppose this simply because the UAE is an Arab country, is pathetic. What happened to your claim that we all hate Israel? Now we also hate all Arabs and want to discriminate against them? Get your message straight.
And what’s your beef with Zogby? That he’s of arab descent? Why did you bring him up?
People oppose the deal not because the UAE is an Arab country, but because of their known links to terrorism- links that troubled both the DPH and Coast Guard, among others. How many of the foreign companies that run our ports that you allude to, just recently denounced the taliban after pressure from us post 9/11? How many have met with Bin Laden?
You’ve got a lot of nice coulter-style rhetoric going, but that’s about it. It must be terrible being so angry and frustrated all the time so that all you can do is claim that everyone who you disagree with “hates America.” But then again, it’s a lot easier than thinking, isn’t it?
February 28th, 2006 at 6:37 pmFYI, since you’re all screaming at each other and not making a lot of sense:
1) Nonsense about the Jews taking Palestine away from the arabs. Palestine is a modern term. The people who claim to be Palestinians are just native arabs who have lived in the region. The arabs who chose to live in Israel are citizens of Israel, they vote and they have representation in the government. The arabs who chose to leave are emigres or refugees, depending on how they chose to view their situation historically. They have been rejected by the other arab countries like Syria and Jordan who refused to take them in.
2) These so-called Palestinians could have had a “homeland” a long time ago if they really wanted it. Problem is they wanted Israel which is already a recognized country. The minute they decide to find a peaceful solution to their own self-made misery, recognize Israel, stop the bombings, and do an honest day’s work, they can have a homeland of their own.
3) Israel’s problem is that of two conflicting aims: to be a democracy and to be a Jewish state. It is to their benefit for the “Palestinians” to have a separate state. If they veer too far toward true textbook democracy, the arabs in Israel will outnumber the Jews since their birth rate is higher, and that threatens the idea of a Jewish state. Hence the delicate balance.
4) Fundamentalist Jews are not Zionists. I-Right, whatever his political leanings, is correct on that score. They even refuse to speak Hebrew because it is the language of the bible and reserve it only for prayer.
5) I’m pretty sure that while Cindy Sheehan may have criticized Israeli policies, she is no anti-semite.
All that being said, Dubai is an arab nation which refuses to recognize Israel which immediately disqualifies them from owning American ports whether they supply security or not. They have a history of ties to the Taliban and Bin Laden, four scant years does not erase that. Whether or not they handle security for ports they wish to purchase in the U.S. is irrelevant — the problem lies in the Point of Origin of their containers. Since we have no control over that or who is infiltrating their company, we have every reason to be wary of turning over our ports to them.
Bush is a bone head. He and his family have ties to the arabs. He is more concerned about money and oil than he is about security. Anyone who trusts him has overdosed on his Kool Aid and I pity them.
February 28th, 2006 at 6:37 pmNo one ever slammed Israel, certainly not Cindy DSheehan. The problem with you fucking wingnuts is that you keep equating criticism of Israel with anti-Zionism. This isn’t about religion, it’s about geopolitics.
JP
February 28th, 2006 at 6:42 pmhttp://jurassicpork.blogspot.com
[...] I have been over at Think Progress reading some of the comments in the section dealing with the revelation that the UAE supports the Arab boycott against Israel (see my post about this below for more info.). [...]
February 28th, 2006 at 6:49 pmDubai buys Dubya, bye Dubai Dubya.
February 28th, 2006 at 7:36 pmwell, about a week ago, i-r-i almost started making sense.
almost.
now i can’t tell whether he’s pissed off because his mom won’t let him have any playstation time today or what, but he’s really unbalanced.
seriously, i-r-i, do you realize that what you say here doesn’t help conservatives or republicans in any way? if you’re trying to advance your cause, you’re failing miserably.
it’s like you’re *trying* to perpetuate the caricature of the angry, racist, chauvanist, conservative male.
you’ve turned into a parody of yourself.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:07 pmWill someone please explain to me why sensible people continue to defend our dumbbell president?
Bush staunchly defends a decision he had nothing to do with, even though it involves a country with strong ties to terrorists including Al Queda and the Taliban.
The Coast Guard, which if no one has checked lately, is supposed to defend our coast from terrorists, was only consulted in cursory manner.
This is a screw-up of the highest order from an administration that claims it has made counter terrorism its top priority. Worse, it’s not malfeasance, it’s nonfeasance.
The problem with the Bush administration is that it is full of lazy bums, W the worst of all, that do little work and cover that up by waving the bloody shirt.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:40 pmThe primary defense of nutcase defenders of Bush seems to be that the Dubai deal is opposed only because it hurts Bush. Aren’t you nice to Mr. Stupid? Now, really, did you protest when the right wing cabal financed and promoted the Paula Jones case against Bill Clinton? I think not. You hypocrites should be ashamed of yourselves.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:45 pmToday Ted Bilkey was asked about DPW’s attitude toward Israel. Well, he also has an attitude, and though I think it deserves consideration, I don’t think the Bush neocons would agree.
As I commented on TPM Cafe on February 22, 2006,
“It might be of interest to discuss the issue of Israel with Ted Bilkey, COO of DPW, when he comes to Washington next week to assure everyone that this is a great deal for America.” He attended an interesting forum in 2001
http:// http://www.mtexpress.co m/2001/01-11-07/ 01-11- 07forum.htm
and presented the following thoughts:
“Bilkey, who said he was in Dubai during the Persian Gulf War of 1991, said that at that time ‘Americans were heroes. We were thought of as saviors, but we’ve totally lost it. What happened?’
He didn’t answer this question, but he did have an answer to what he would tell President Bush.
‘I think the first recommendation I would make is to take away a serious irritant by telling the Israelis to remove all the West Bank settlements,’ Bilkey said.
‘I feel our government and media are tiptoeing around the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians,’ he said.
‘Our government is not addressing the problem in an [sic] vigorous way. If we don’t change our unqualified support of Israel, there is no way we can win the war on terrorism,”‘ Bilkey said.”
February 28th, 2006 at 8:45 pmhow can Bush ask Americans to die in the middle east then sell our ports to the middle east ? could imagine roosevelt selling our ports to the japs or germans during ww2 ? bush has loyalty only to money
February 28th, 2006 at 9:00 pmnow i can’t tell whether he’s pissed off because his mom won’t let him have any playstation time today or what.
Comment by Progressaurus Rex — February 28, 2006 @ 8:07 pm
Close.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:30 pmWill someone please explain to me why sensible people continue to defend our dumbbell president?
Comment by Small “c” conservative — February 28, 2006 @ 8:40 pm
Sure, but I’m terrible at sugar-coating….
Blind faith, and the fear of Hell for having been wrong about anything.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:32 pmWhat I don’t get is, first, we’re “racistâ€, because we object to the port deal, and now we’re “Jew haters†? I can’t keep up.
Comment by Cyra Brown — February 28, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
Yeah, me neither, considering, we’re usually the ones defending AGAINST racism… It seems pretty far fetched to be throwing it at us now by people who call anyone from the Middle East a throat slitting towel head every day since 9/11 up until just last week.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:37 pmWhat do conservatives do when caught in a lie? THEY LIE MORE!
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February 28th, 2006 at 10:21 pmI sincerely resent the use of the word “conserative” to describe the Bushies. Any one who starts an unnecessary war, bankrupts the government and increases government meddling in the lives of citizens is not conservative.
February 28th, 2006 at 10:24 pmDubai Ports World boycotting Israel…
Tell me why we let this deal slide again? From the Jerusalem Post (hat tip Think Progress):The parent company of a Dubai-based firm at the center of a political storm in the US over the purchase of American ports participates…
February 28th, 2006 at 11:06 pmsincerely resent the use of the word “conserative†to describe the Bushies. Any one who starts an unnecessary war, bankrupts the government and increases government meddling in the lives of citizens is not conservative.
Comment by Small C Conserative
Bush is a liberal. It’s only the wingnut leftist loons that control the Donk party that make him seem conservative.
Spending billions here, billions there, property rights destroyed by the Supremes without a peep from him, freedom of speech during elections outlawed thanks to McCain Fiengold, uncontrolled immigration, placating minorities including sexual deviants and fighting a war with one hand tied behind his back are all Donk attributes that date to FDR. If it were not for the kind of treasonous assholes like John “Meet me in Paris” Kerry that you losers trot out every election I’d have voted “other” last election.
March 1st, 2006 at 9:09 amWhy are we upset over Dubai? America is broke and Bush is doing what he does in every failed business he’s run into the ground – looking to his Caryle/Arab/Oil Buddies to bail him out – beside he JUST learnt of it anyway and would never risk the safety and security of America . . . let alone the fortune of Snow and Sandborn . . .
March 1st, 2006 at 3:37 pmInteresting Discussion….
Judaism and UAE: I would like to assert that the UAE and its citizens do not have anything against Jews or the Jewish religion. Islam recognizes Christians and Jews as being the “people of the book” (in other words, recognizing Judaism and Christianity as legitimate religions) and asks muslims to respect their beliefs and treat them fairly.
UAE GOVERNMENT : The major objection by the Gulf states is the fact that Israel has not abided by the UN resolutions of 1967 that specifically outlined the israeli border lines. What is happenning today is that Israel as a state is in breach of this resolution by occupying more land and expanding and has not allowed a palestinian state to be established. I personally believe that the palestinians deserve a state side by side to the israelis with the adoption of the 1967 border line resolution. This is the general opinion in the UAE and our government is representing our opinion. The UAE has clearly indicated its support for the SAUDI plan that states that Israel should recognize the palestinian state and should abide by the UN resolution (1967) in terms of its borders for diplomatic and trade relations to be established with the gulf. Dont you think that it is a fair deal?? But Israel doesnt care, so what can we do…. the UAE can not support israel financially (by trading with Israel) if it keeps on grabbing more land and expanding at the expense of the palestinians.
Internal Government Policy: The UAE is made up of seven emirates. The capital, Abu Dhabi, is the largest emirate with the huge oil reserves that is responsible for the federal budget. Each emirate is responsible, as in the US with states or in canada with provinces, to manage its jurisdiction. Therefore, the municipality along with other emirate-operated gevernment divisions are funded by the government revenues from things such as natural resources, to other business activities within the emirate (province). The UAE is tax free, for the government to afford this luxury it needs to invest money in the country and abroad (diversified portfolio) to ensure a stable income and growth of income to support the country without implementing a tax system.
DP WORLD: It is government owned but operates independently. Today, Dubai (the emirate) produces 300,000-400,000 barrels a day of oil and it is starting to run out of oil. We knew that this would happen sooner or later. So what was the government supposed to do to maintain high revenues to support the emirate? Invest in the emirate by liberalising the economy and divesifying the economy, increasing foreign investments by granting incentives such as tax-free incentives and make dubai the tourism and commerce hub of the middle east (that is what it is called nowadays). One of the government actvities to generate revenues is DPW. DPW operates lots of ports around the world, P and O would create a better network. so business wise it is a smart strategy to use because their clients that include an israeli shipping company will be happy to deal with one company that has a global reach.
UAE and terrorism: the whole world was caught offguard in 9/11. I have always been proud to be a UAE citizen, but the only incident that brought shame to UAE citizens and the country was the participation of two individuals living in the UAE in the 9/11 attacks. with that being said, I would like to make people know that the UAE acknowledged that and decided to take action which it was very successful in. It is the most moderate nation in the arab world and to take out the anger at us is just not right. It is not like the company would go through the trouble of issuing a 6.3 billion dollar bond to make the US weak or vulnerable because it would not be in the best interests of the company. This is a profit making company. And i find hurtful comments made by ignorant politicians against us as people and nation who have never even visited the UAE so they dont know what they are talking about. If the US wants to push us away this way, then this could be used by extremists to convince vulnerable individuals that indeed the west hates arabs and muslims. And anti-american sentiment would grow because people who dont like the US would suggest that this behavior is a racist behavior.
March 3rd, 2006 at 2:10 pmImbroglio facing Dubai and Hollywood
As George Orwell put it, “political language … is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind”. No kidding.
This week, two cities half a world apart braced for an onslaught of hysterical lobbying that has everything to do with dangerously distorted politics and little to do with the issues at hand: whether either of two highly acclaimed films deserves the ultimate prize, the Oscar; whether the national security review that cleared a commercial transaction involving the management of some US ports is enough for DP World to go through with the acquisition.
Given their opponents, it’s no surprise that Dubai and Hollywood failed to defuse their respective public relations crises. While Dubai encountered widespread bipartisan Congressional opposition to its takeover plans within 10 days of the deal becoming public knowledge, this week it gained a new and potent opponent, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). Indeed, Hollywood and Dubai faced a similar conundrum: political muscle flexing of pro-Israeli lobbies, and in the case of Hollywood, the Israeli government.
Obviously, there is no way to equate movies that cost barely $75 million with a port operation valued at over $6 billion. That isn’t the point.
If both stick to their guns, so to speak, and refuse to give in to ridiculous demagogues, they might just shatter a few illusions on both sides of the world: In the East, those who decry Jewish control over Hollywood; in the West, those who imagine Dubai overrun with Arab terrorists determined to conquer the shores of New Jersey. Their opposing stereotypes mask a number of commonalities.
Hollywood and Dubai are parallel universes. Both are all about making money; neither is keen to make waves that aren’t lucrative, such as, respectively, blockbuster movies and mind-boggling real estate ventures. Both are surreal places, existing within but functioning far outside prevailing cultural norms. Both are cities of outsiders, thriving and even dependent upon the skills of non-natives.
To be certain, both do have their politically aware, active and attention-getting activists, though Angelina Jolie may trip off tongues more readily than her UAE national counterpart.
Nevertheless, they much prefer their business and not their politics to be the star attraction.
Now, both are faced with an international, headline-grabbing imbroglio. Hollywood encounters a dogged attempt by knee-jerk pro-Israeli forces to undermine one Oscar contender, Steven Spielberg’s Munich, and to change the provenance of another, Hani Abu Assad’s Paradise Now. Dubai faces the ADL which denounced the deal because of the UAE’s lingering economic boycott of Israel. Sympathetic websites and blogs pounced, reminding readers and the Bush Administration of its first-term policy of staunchly opposing such trade barriers.
Debilitating shortcomings
Spielberg should consider teaming up with Abu Assad after Sunday night’s awards show and train their lens on the DP World drama. They are likely to uncover as many debilitating shortcomings in American politics and society as they discovered in Israel’s and Palestine’s.
Just as DP World’s voluntary request for the 45 day security review, a brilliant public relations strategy (and a welcome respite for a beleaguered White House) was announced, Republican Senator Susan Collins, chairwoman of the Homeland Security Committee, revealed the Coast Guard’s national security concerns. These pre-dated the final report from the Committee on Foreign Investment in the US, or CFIUS.
Now, CFIUS gets another go at clearing the sale that they just got finished approving, and are actively defending. No surprise, the review is a ruse. No sooner will it be done than many in Congress will cry foul and demand oversight, the right to nix the deal, and much more. Unless Dubai uses the next 45 days to engage in a grassroots campaign for American hearts and minds, opponents in Congress will find considerable public support for their lunacy.
Lacking a basic understanding
On February 27, CBS News found that 7 in 10 Americans and 58 per cent of Republicans are opposed to the transfer of operational control. Of course, though many networks have attempted to offer some basic information on US ports, most Americans still lack a basic understanding of what the sale really entails, or how these operations are currently managed and secured. So is it any wonder that they are sceptical about Dubai, a place that is far and foreign? Foreign direct investment? That’s an unknown concept, and vaguely threatening.
Luring foreign capital is the last thing on the minds of Congressional Democrats. Led by the hard charging Hillary “Oval Office-bound” Clinton, they are seized by the prospect of defeating President George W. Bush on the very issue that got him re-elected: national security.
Only a few senior Republicans like John McCain are likely to stand up to the tidal wave of insanity. Fractious Republicans angered by Bush’s strong-arm political tactics and uneasy with his bottom-basement approval ratings have remained adamantly opposed to the deal.
Democrats seem poised to steal the White House’s rhetorical wizardry. Not only can they alliterate with ease (witness New Jersey Senator Frank Lautenberg’s taunt at a recent rally, “We wouldn’t transfer the title to the devil; we’re not going to transfer it to Dubai,”) they also took a page out of Dick Cheney’s playbook.
Remember how, in the run-up to the Iraq war, the vice-president convinced most Americans that Saddam Hussain was complicit in 9/11? Democrats plan to use the same word association, Dubai-terrorists-9/11-Taliban, to maintain their newfound national security card.
Neither Spielberg nor Abu Assad could ask for better real-time drama. Or more dire long-term implications should hysterical xenophobia cause the sale fall through, or DP World to withdraw.
Unlike the 1980s, when similar anti-Japanese mania swept up lawmakers and led to various prohibitions on foreign ownership, America faces more robust competition for FDI. With India and China rapidly advancing, Bush’s policies causing angst in various capitals, and America’s deficit ballooning, the US can ill afford further erosion of trust and confidence among key investors.
On a more positive note, Hollywood is likely to weather the outcry from Israeli groups and even the Israeli government. Paradise Now will remain a contender for best foreign film. It’s country of origin? The Academy is leaning towards “Palestinian Territories”, but is that really so important? In 2002, Divine Intervention was denied entry as the Academy did not recognise “Palestine”. Nothing politically has changed in the intervening four years. But socially and culturally, progress has been made. Paradise Now is in.
- Maggie Mitchell Salem is a political and communications consultant based in Washington, DC. Previously, she was director of communications at the Middle East Institute and a special assistant to former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.
March 3rd, 2006 at 6:28 pmYou must be a nut case. The largest shippin line of Israel (ZIM) has a partnership with DDP World.
March 7th, 2006 at 11:47 pmDubai spells DANGER.Just as the average Saudi has no love lost for the west (remember the 9/11 hijackers)the American public is rightly suspicious of Dubai.Its reputation for money laundering its sympathies with Al Qaeda and the grandiose visions of its emir are well known.Less well known is its role in terrorism.It has provided safe haven to the notorious Dawood Ibrahim responsible for the death of more than 500 innocents in the 1993 Bombay blasts in Bombay India and the ensuing riots.Numerous other unsavory characters flourish in this morally dubious city-state.No amount of image-polishing by Bill Clinton and others can change the facts.Hopefully the U.S. congress will avoid another catastrophic entanglement
March 8th, 2006 at 5:31 pmIt doesn’t matter if we add security to our ports or keep them wide open. There are a millions ways to skin a cat. People, just need to respect everyone. Religion and governments control people because they allow them too. I hate when people start the religion game, or the race game, please we are all one whether we like it our not. Ok so war is war people die, people are never secure because people do not find it in their hearts to love one another. Everything is hypocrisy when you are pointing the finger at someone or someone elses conspiracy or whatever. Let us all love one another with out judging one another. I know no one can stop some crazy ass trying to kill the whole world, but if its going to happen its going to happen whether we sell the ports or whether the brittish or russians or chinese or whoever owns it. Bottom line stop arguing and love one another.
March 9th, 2006 at 1:42 pmAm I mistaken, or was Bill Clinton a Liberal Democrat when he signed over the Long Beach Naval Yard to the Communist Chinese? Hmmmmm???
March 9th, 2006 at 4:50 pm[...] In case you have been living under a rock, the Bush administration approved a deal whereby Dubai Ports World, a company based in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), would be running many of our nation’s ports. Ports, I remind you, were one of the biggies for the 9-11 commission; they felt we weren’t doing enough to protect them from attack. Bush says the UAE is a “staunch ally”in the war against terror(ists), but there are puzzling contradictions. The UAE boycotts Israel, did recognize the Taliban, appear to have been quite chummy with Osama bin Laden, and two of the 9/11 terrorists were their natives sons. [...]
March 12th, 2006 at 9:59 ampalestinians or the world should not accept israel until israel accepts palestinians right to exsist. duh
March 23rd, 2006 at 9:57 pmA lot of the hate is pointed at arabs that should be considered arab-baiting
God doesn’t like hate but some of you like to hate.
You should not group hate a people
What is the final solution for the palestinians in their concentrated areas?
Don’t they bleed when cut? ,Don’t they cry when injured? Don’t they laugh………… oops! that was the other guys
Don’t forget except for the neocon creeps that are destroying this country most vote liberal
[...] For those who don’t believe Dubai is port of the more hardline Arab world, Think Progress has a little more proof to show that they are: [...]
June 28th, 2006 at 12:25 am1. I don’t believe Israel should exist. Jews don’t deserve special protectionism and Israel is a Jewish state. Israel’s mother is the same madness that created Nazi Germany. The Jews that are in Israel should have stayed in their homelands. The religious ethnocentrism, tribality, and racism of Jews, Jewishness, and Israeli nationalism is nuts, especially in light of the modern age of reason. The creation of Israel and the protectionism that is afforded it by Jews worldwide is going to get everybody in a whole heap of trouble. Israel is a beacon to the foolishness that DIVIDES the world and peoples. It’s a manifestation of the very Jewish spirit that creates the reaction of anti-semitism.
2. I boycott Israel, that’s one reason why I refuse to buy Intel for myself or any of my businesses. I also tell all of my comrades to do as well, including the Jewish ones, as Israel embodies the prototype for division between peoples and for anti-semitism. In fact, Israel justifies anti-semitism. As embodied in the very construction of the word, anti-semitism (which should really be anti-Jewish-tribalism) is reactionary.
If somebody is boycotting Israel I’m cheering the boycott on, for the sake of the world. Jews are just like the rest of us gentiles, and they don’t deserve any special cultural or racial protectionism. Giving them protectionism, especially in light of their mistreatment of the low-tech and impoverished palestinians goes against all the values of any enlightened believer in modern social or ethical policy.
On another note, I’d also like to see Israel heavily fined and its foreign aid suspended for all of its human rights violations, especially the ones recognized by the U.N.
So there.
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