Comments on: Thomas Kean: ‘You And I Can Walk Today Into The Port Of New York’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:09:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-463145 unbelievable Thu, 02 Mar 2006 14:37:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-463145 <em>unbelievable, You shouldn’t oughta see the “solution” I got for IRI… Comment by big papa — March 1, 2006 @ 6:59 pm </em> Maybe I shouldn't... unbelievable,

You shouldn’t oughta see the “solution” I got for IRI…

Comment by big papa — March 1, 2006 @ 6:59 pm

Maybe I shouldn’t…

]]> By: Some Dude http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-462781 Some Dude Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:21:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-462781 $5.4 billion over 10 years? How about $244 billion over 3 years in Iraq? <a href="http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182" rel="nofollow">$244 billion.</a> $5.4 billion over 10 years? How about $244 billion over 3 years in Iraq? $244 billion.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-462619 big papa Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:59:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-462619 I think we should focus on solutions. Comment by unbelievable #42 <strong>unbelievable, You shouldn't oughta see the "solution" I got for IRI...</strong> I think we should focus on solutions.

Comment by unbelievable #42

unbelievable,

You shouldn’t oughta see the “solution” I got for IRI…

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461812 unbelievable Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:16:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461812 Guys, absolutist judgment coming from the left is no more valid than it is coming from the right. Life is a dichotomy between the absolutes - and every person is a mixture of both good and bad - which varies depending on who is viewing him or her at that particular moment, and how they define the terms. No one is 100% good nor are they 100% evil. It makes us sounds just as nutty as the arguments we rebuke to suggest that anyone is. I think we should focus on solutions. Guys, absolutist judgment coming from the left is no more valid than it is coming from the right. Life is a dichotomy between the absolutes – and every person is a mixture of both good and bad – which varies depending on who is viewing him or her at that particular moment, and how they define the terms. No one is 100% good nor are they 100% evil. It makes us sounds just as nutty as the arguments we rebuke to suggest that anyone is.

I think we should focus on solutions.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461660 Jay Randal Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:37:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461660 I-Right-I is certified goofy, so let him rant away on here about Communists and Gays. On another TP thread he said that the entire population of America personally hates my guts > lol. Lucky if a hundred thousand read TP threads, so rediculous to say 300 million people hate me! Maybe he was really referring to Bush who is hated by billions of people worldwide?! I-Right-I is certified goofy, so let him rant away on here about Communists and Gays. On another TP thread he said that the entire population of America personally hates my guts > lol. Lucky if a hundred thousand read TP threads, so rediculous to say 300 million people hate me! Maybe he was really referring to Bush who is hated by billions of people worldwide?!

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461527 WaltTheMan Wed, 01 Mar 2006 05:11:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461527 #39 - CZ-1, That is the number that has been floating around in the media for the last few weeks. I think that Spudge_Boy has more immediate access to the numbers than I as I am about to hit the sack and I am a few time zones to his east. Age sucks! I used to coast on three or four hours of stupor a night under my desk or in the model room during a crisis project. #39 – CZ-1,
That is the number that has been floating around in the media for the last few weeks. I think that Spudge_Boy has more immediate access to the numbers than I as I am about to hit the sack and I am a few time zones to his east.
Age sucks! I used to coast on three or four hours of stupor a night under my desk or in the model room during a crisis project.

]]> By: CZ-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461492 CZ-1 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:03:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461492 <blockquote><em>What percent of containers were actually inspected prior to 9/11?</em> 5%. No change. As I stated before “No change is bad.” Comment by Spudge_Boy</blockquote> Is that right? That blows me away. We did not even increase the spot-checking?! Do you have a source on that information?

What percent of containers were actually inspected prior to 9/11?

5%. No change. As I stated before “No change is bad.”

Comment by Spudge_Boy

Is that right? That blows me away. We did not even increase the spot-checking?! Do you have a source on that information?

]]> By: piltdown http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461442 piltdown Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:11:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461442 Ignorance is bliss, I guess. IRI comes off as most practicing Catholics. They'll thump the book, but never read what's between the covers. Ignorance is bliss, I guess. IRI comes off as most practicing Catholics. They’ll thump the book, but never read what’s between the covers.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461419 unbelievable Wed, 01 Mar 2006 02:27:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461419 <em>…IRI is a demon beyond redemption… …it is evil incarnate, the false angel (from hell)… Comment by big papa — February 28, 2006 @ 7:54 pm </em> Sorry, but that's just not true. He's a human being like the rest of us. He's nice when he wants to be and a complete ass when he knows he can push your buttons. It's not him personally but his violent Christian ideology that's his problem. He's just too blinded by it to understand that the choice for peace and understanding is why no one is flying planes into Swiss buildings, or why a whole bunch of people get pissy when you joke about shooting cats with pellet guns. And really, what would half the people here do without him to battle? …IRI is a demon beyond redemption…

…it is evil incarnate, the false angel (from hell)…

Comment by big papa — February 28, 2006 @ 7:54 pm

Sorry, but that’s just not true. He’s a human being like the rest of us. He’s nice when he wants to be and a complete ass when he knows he can push your buttons.

It’s not him personally but his violent Christian ideology that’s his problem. He’s just too blinded by it to understand that the choice for peace and understanding is why no one is flying planes into Swiss buildings, or why a whole bunch of people get pissy when you joke about shooting cats with pellet guns.

And really, what would half the people here do without him to battle?

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461343 big papa Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:54:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461343 Well, IRI, you are all of those things. And you don’t need a god to make it true. You just need to believe it. You need to believe in yourself. And it’s abundantly clear with this control freak posting that you do not. You are better than you think you are. You don’t need religion for that. Comment by unbelievable #31 <strong>unbelievable, Believe this... ...IRI is a demon beyond redemption... ...it is marked for destruction... ...and no amount of redemptive love can save it... ...it mocks everything good and decent... ...and is bereft of any humanity... ...it is evil incarnate, the false angel (from hell)...</strong> Well, IRI, you are all of those things. And you don’t need a god to make it true. You just need to believe it. You need to believe in yourself. And it’s abundantly clear with this control freak posting that you do not. You are better than you think you are. You don’t need religion for that.

Comment by unbelievable #31

unbelievable,

Believe this…

…IRI is a demon beyond redemption…

…it is marked for destruction…

…and no amount of redemptive love can save it…

…it mocks everything good and decent…

…and is bereft of any humanity…

…it is evil incarnate, the false angel (from hell)…

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461339 big papa Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:50:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461339 You will lose again in November. I am willing to guarantee that! Comment by . <strong>You don't even exist...</strong> You will lose again in November. I am willing to guarantee that!

Comment by .

You don’t even exist…

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461293 Marie Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:02:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461293 #30 Thanks for the link. As I have said before, there is so much crap surrounding this administration and government during the past five years, it is hard to keep all of them fresh, so it is good to review things we read before and refresh our minds. #30
Thanks for the link.
As I have said before, there is so much crap surrounding this administration and government during the past five years, it is hard to keep all of them fresh, so it is good to review things we read before and refresh our minds.

]]> By: bs http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461225 bs Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:55:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461225 #32 he is following his beloved christian values. god told bush to go to war, so god must have to iri to kill, hate,fear, and when you die you will meet him at the pearly gates. and maybe just maybe drink some tea and break bread with everyone else who died and that includes the terrorists. so that must be one heck of a tea party. #32
he is following his beloved christian values. god told bush to go to war, so god must have to iri to kill, hate,fear, and when you die you will meet him at the pearly gates. and maybe just maybe drink some tea and break bread with everyone else who died and that includes the terrorists. so that must be one heck of a tea party.

]]> By: UAE Wants To Control Your News http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461116 UAE Wants To Control Your News Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:43:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461116 I think you're alittle mentally ill, IRI. You think you love this and that? You want to kill this or that? Jeesh! That's off the charts, man. Do you talk this way in front of your kids and in public? I think you’re alittle mentally ill, IRI.
You think you love this and that?
You want to kill this or that?
Jeesh! That’s off the charts, man. Do you talk this way in front of your kids and in public?

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461090 unbelievable Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:31:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461090 <em>Speaking of St. Anne, I like her idea the best. Frankly it’s the only workable solution. “We should invade their countries kill their leaders and convert the rest to Christianity. If I were President that’s exactly what I’d do. I’d begin in Washington D.C. Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 3:58 pm </em> Why would you ever want to force someone to be something they aren't - and don't want to be? It would be like Muslims coming to our country and forcing you to be Islamic. You wouldn't like it, so why do it to others? Really, I wonder if you understand that each person is a person just like you with thoughts, feelings, aspirations, fears, hopes and all the rest. They aren't animated manniquins who need you to instruct them. Sheesh. And Christianity is not only NOT the answer, I think it is a HUGE part of the problems we have in this world. Because it does not teach people to be responsible. Any time you can blame pitch fork toting red eyed beast for your behavior, it's <em>irresponsible</em>. If each person were to design his or her own ideology, the world would be better off than blind adherence to some ancient system that was designed by people who claimed to be speaking for a god. How do you know they weren't lying? And what if they were? You okay with being their fool if the hope lives just a bit longer that you are special and valuable and loved? Some purpose to your life that is meaningful and important? Well, IRI, you are all of those things. And you don't need a god to make it true. You just need to believe it. You need to believe in yourself. And it's abundantly clear with this control freak posting that you do not. You are better than you think you are. You don't need religion for that. Speaking of St. Anne, I like her idea the best. Frankly it’s the only workable solution. “We should invade their countries kill their leaders and convert the rest to Christianity. If I were President that’s exactly what I’d do. I’d begin in Washington D.C.

Comment by I-RIGHT-I — February 28, 2006 @ 3:58 pm

Why would you ever want to force someone to be something they aren’t – and don’t want to be? It would be like Muslims coming to our country and forcing you to be Islamic. You wouldn’t like it, so why do it to others?

Really, I wonder if you understand that each person is a person just like you with thoughts, feelings, aspirations, fears, hopes and all the rest. They aren’t animated manniquins who need you to instruct them. Sheesh.

And Christianity is not only NOT the answer, I think it is a HUGE part of the problems we have in this world. Because it does not teach people to be responsible. Any time you can blame pitch fork toting red eyed beast for your behavior, it’s irresponsible.

If each person were to design his or her own ideology, the world would be better off than blind adherence to some ancient system that was designed by people who claimed to be speaking for a god. How do you know they weren’t lying? And what if they were? You okay with being their fool if the hope lives just a bit longer that you are special and valuable and loved? Some purpose to your life that is meaningful and important?

Well, IRI, you are all of those things. And you don’t need a god to make it true. You just need to believe it. You need to believe in yourself. And it’s abundantly clear with this control freak posting that you do not. You are better than you think you are. You don’t need religion for that.

]]> By: madrino http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461079 madrino Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:26:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461079 Download • August 1, 2004: Sibel Edmonds' Letter to Chairman Thomas Kean from the Sibel Edmond's webpage http://www.justacitizen.com/ to find out just this man is. It is very enlightening and will show just how pathetic the commission and everything to do with this man really is. Download • August 1, 2004: Sibel Edmonds’ Letter to Chairman Thomas Kean from the Sibel Edmond’s webpage http://www.justacitizen.com/ to find out just this man is. It is very enlightening and will show just how pathetic the commission and everything to do with this man really is.

]]> By: Spudge_Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461075 Spudge_Boy Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:24:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461075 <blockquote>First of all, there is going to be no change in the security of the ports.</blockquote> Why not? Why doesn't the Bush administration do what the 9/11 commission recommended. No change is bad. <blockquote>The coast guard and homeland security are still in charge as they have been.</blockquote> The Coast Guard, yea! Homeland Security is a lame duck as proven by Katrina. <blockquote>What percent of containers were actually inspected prior to 9/11?</blockquote> 5%. No change. As I stated before "No change is bad." <blockquote>Lastly, why are liberals all of a sudden so concerned about security?</blockquote> We always have been fvcktard. <blockquote> You wanted Americans and the world to believe that Bush is the real terrorist and that we have no enemies.</blockquote> Bush is a terrorist and he is creating new enemies everyday. We never once said we don't have enemies, we do and we don't need anymore. <blockquote> Its obvious to most of us, that you again are politically motivated and could give a rats ass about our nation’s security</blockquote> Yes, that is your partisan brain speaking to you in tongue. <blockquote>You will lose again in November. I am willing to guarantee that!</blockquote> Do you promise to never post your retarded bullshit here again if you are wrong?

First of all, there is going to be no change in the security of the ports.

Why not? Why doesn’t the Bush administration do what the 9/11 commission recommended. No change is bad.

The coast guard and homeland security are still in charge as they have been.

The Coast Guard, yea! Homeland Security is a lame duck as proven by Katrina.

What percent of containers were actually inspected prior to 9/11?

5%. No change. As I stated before “No change is bad.”

Lastly, why are liberals all of a sudden so concerned about security?

We always have been fvcktard.

You wanted Americans and the world to believe that Bush is the real terrorist and that we have no enemies.

Bush is a terrorist and he is creating new enemies everyday. We never once said we don’t have enemies, we do and we don’t need anymore.

Its obvious to most of us, that you again are politically motivated and could give a rats ass about our nation’s security

Yes, that is your partisan brain speaking to you in tongue.

You will lose again in November. I am willing to guarantee that!

Do you promise to never post your retarded bullshit here again if you are wrong?

]]> By: . http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461035 . Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:02:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461035 #26 You obviously do not understand what is happening here with the port deal. First of all, there is going to be no change in the security of the ports. Liberals are trying to paint this as guys in turbins (sorry for the bigoted reference, but thought this would get your attention and you are ones being bigots here and you are the ones wondering "why do they hate us?") would be the ones checking in the containers. The coast guard and homeland security are still in charge as they have been. The longshoreman who unload the containers are not be replaced with Arabic workers. The UAE company manages ports and does not own the ships holding the cargo, so why would they have to spend three days in an Arab country. What percent of containers were actually inspected prior to 9/11? If Al Qaeda had a nuke, I believe they would have used it by now. Lastly, why are liberals all of a sudden so concerned about security? You wanted Americans and the world to believe that Bush is the real terrorist and that we have no enemies. Its obvious to most of us, that you again are politically motivated and could give a rats ass about our nation's security. Your sides' track record of revealing secrets about our tactics in fighting the war on terror speaks for itself. You will lose again in November. I am willing to guarantee that! #26
You obviously do not understand what is happening here with the port deal. First of all, there is going to be no change in the security of the ports. Liberals are trying to paint this as guys in turbins (sorry for the bigoted reference, but thought this would get your attention and you are ones being bigots here and you are the ones wondering “why do they hate us?”) would be the ones checking in the containers. The coast guard and homeland security are still in charge as they have been. The longshoreman who unload the containers are not be replaced with Arabic workers. The UAE company manages ports and does not own the ships holding the cargo, so why would they have to spend three days in an Arab country. What percent of containers were actually inspected prior to 9/11? If Al Qaeda had a nuke, I believe they would have used it by now. Lastly, why are liberals all of a sudden so concerned about security? You wanted Americans and the world to believe that Bush is the real terrorist and that we have no enemies. Its obvious to most of us, that you again are politically motivated and could give a rats ass about our nation’s security. Your sides’ track record of revealing secrets about our tactics in fighting the war on terror speaks for itself. You will lose again in November. I am willing to guarantee that!

]]> By: I-RIGHT-I http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-461024 I-RIGHT-I Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:58:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-461024 Oh yeah they arent racist.. Just look at what they Say.. haters of mankind around the World Comment by mr ho Just certain of mankind, and they should be hated. But racist? Nope. I think we love our Christian Arab brothers, at least I do. Those the Muslims haven't killed yet that is. I think we love our Jewish brothers, at least I do. Those that aren't Marxist fucktards or the ones the Muslims haven't killed yet. Speaking of St. Anne, I like her idea the best. Frankly it's the only workable solution. "We should invade their countries kill their leaders and convert the rest to Christianity. If I were President that's exactly what I'd do. I'd begin in Washington D.C. Oh yeah they arent racist..
Just look at what they Say..
haters of mankind around the World

Comment by mr ho

Just certain of mankind, and they should be hated. But racist? Nope. I think we love our Christian Arab brothers, at least I do. Those the Muslims haven’t killed yet that is. I think we love our Jewish brothers, at least I do. Those that aren’t Marxist fucktards or the ones the Muslims haven’t killed yet.

Speaking of St. Anne, I like her idea the best. Frankly it’s the only workable solution. “We should invade their countries kill their leaders and convert the rest to Christianity. If I were President that’s exactly what I’d do. I’d begin in Washington D.C.

]]> By: ulurru http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/comment-page-1/#comment-460986 ulurru Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:30:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/28/kean-port-security/#comment-460986 So, why we're stripped searched, scanned, sniffed and patted down(with an occasional peek down the trousers) whilst attepting to board a short hop to see Aunt Martha in Cleveland, 7,500 containers per ship are floating into a foreign owned port near you, with only 5% of them under going an inspection. And in 3 days an Arab country with proven ties to terrorist own 22 more. WTF.... So, why we’re stripped searched, scanned, sniffed and patted down(with an occasional peek down the trousers) whilst attepting to board a short hop to see Aunt Martha in Cleveland, 7,500 containers per ship are floating into a foreign owned port near you, with only 5% of them under going an inspection.

And in 3 days an Arab country with proven ties to terrorist own 22 more.

WTF….

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