Fox News: Iraq Civil War “Made Up By The Media?”
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Fox News: Iraq Civil War “Made Up By The Media?”
Fox News continues its crackerjack analysis of sectarian strife in Iraq. Previously, it explored whether “an all-out civil war in Iraq” could be “a good thing.”
Now they have an new theory. Moments ago on Fox:
Maybe they should ask the families of the roughly 1500 Iraqis who have died.
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Mark my word they will blame it on the liberals soon. Seriously, Rush Windbag las already said that “the Liberals are trying to start a civil war in Iraq”. The man is on LSD.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:15 pmIf a lie is big enough, and repeated often enough…
March 1st, 2006 at 4:15 pmWonder if they asked that about the Nazi holocaust too.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:16 pmTruthiness strikes again. Fox News is an embarrassment to journalism.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:17 pmI guess the logical extension for tomorrow would be, “Civil War in Iraq:Good for media to make-up for America?”
March 1st, 2006 at 4:17 pmThe Fox and RethuG formula..we are now on Step 2
Step 1. Deny and reframe the issue
Step 2. Blame media
Step 3. Blame Democratic leadership
Step 4. Blame critics
Step 5. Blame the victim
Rinse, wash and repeat…..
March 1st, 2006 at 4:20 pmOT: I’ve made important corrections of false facts (posted by a ‘Paul in Mexico’ troll) in the ‘Four Days After Katrina’ thread, below, on the subject of impeachment.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmIt’s no more “made up” than the president is a “made up” president.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:23 pmJust a heads-up on that 1500 number from the Post: is it accurate? CJR daily raised the question here: http://www.cjrdaily.org/behind_the_news/either_the_washington_post_mis.php
March 1st, 2006 at 4:23 pmThen the staff of Fox would not mind broadcasting from Iraq outside the green zone say for a week, all of them too even O’Liely, Hannity, and Roger Ailes
March 1st, 2006 at 4:25 pmThe deep end just got deeper in the cesspool.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:25 pm“We have to address the fact that the president has broken the law.” — Senator Russ Feingold.
We need to sing this from the mountaintops. Everyday someone needs to post this on all threads at all times.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:27 pmDon’t forget we are dealing with traitors:
“There is no more Iraq. There will be three territories.” — Henry Fkr. Kissinger, early 2004, in Saudi Arabia
Internet tar and feathers for Cavuto, that lying sh*tbag.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:28 pmFox is part of the media and they make up stuff all the time. I guess they think everybody does it.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:28 pmEveryday! Carry the torch!
March 1st, 2006 at 4:28 pmFaux News
Faux President
Faux Plan
REAL DEATH,DESTRUCTION AND CIVIL WAR
March 1st, 2006 at 4:31 pmThere is no civil strife in Iraq. ABC News said so yesterday and Fox has confirmed it today. So just what exactly is the media making up?
March 1st, 2006 at 4:31 pmIf a lie is big enough, and repeated often enough…
Comment by Optimist — March 1, 2006 @ 4:15 pm
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”
—Bush, May 25, 2005
I think by ‘catapult’ he means ‘create and push’
March 1st, 2006 at 4:32 pm#12 – Indeed!!!
“We have to address the fact that the president has broken the law.†— Senator Russ Feingold.
The MSM is to blame for stirring up the specter of civil war in Iraq, eh? Well then, let’s take a look at what people inside Iraq are saying, shall we?
The last few days have been unsettlingly violent in spite of the curfew. We’ve been at home simply waiting it out and hoping for the best. The phone wasn’t working and the electrical situation hasn’t improved. We are at a point, however, where things like electricity, telephones and fuel seem like minor worries. Even complaining about them is a luxury Iraqis can’t afford these days.
The sounds of shooting and explosions usually begin at dawn, at least that’s when I first sense them, and they don’t really subside until well into the night. There was a small gunfight on the main road near our area the day before yesterday, but with the exception of the local mosque being fired upon, and a corpse found at dawn three streets down, things have been relatively quiet.
Some of the neighbors have been discussing the possibility of the men setting up a neighborhood watch. We did this during the war and during the chaos immediately after the war. The problem this time is that the Iraqi security forces are as much to fear as the black-clad and hooded men attacking mosques, houses and each other.
…I’m reading, and hearing, about the possibility of civil war. The possibility. Yet I’m sitting here wondering if this is actually what civil war is like. Has it become a reality? Will we look back at this in one year, two years… ten… and say, “It began in February 2006…â€? It is like a nightmare in that you don’t realise it’s a nightmare while having it- only later, after waking up with your heart throbbing, and your eyes searching the dark for a pinpoint of light, do you realise it was a nightmare…
[from: http://www.riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ ]
March 1st, 2006 at 4:32 pmAha, this makes sense now…. Under the banner on 27th Feb, ’send Clinton’, Little Roy Cohn (otherwise known as his nom de plume, Andrew Sullivan) ardent Iraq War supporter (”The decadent Left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead – and may well mount what amounts to a fifth column.”), now proposes to send Bill Clinton to sort out the incipient Iraqi Civil War.
So when Bill goes, it can “all Clinton’s fault”. I see the master plan…
March 1st, 2006 at 4:32 pm… and the Fox News tag line…
March 1st, 2006 at 4:33 pmLush Rimballs as well as the FOX always try to pull the RACE CARD.
This from bloated white NEO-CON BIGOTS.
No real thinker would fall for this crap.
Why do you think their viewers average about 70 years old.
Scare the hell out of old people and we can take what we want.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:33 pmFirst they said civil war was a good thing. Then they said it was already over. Now they’re pretending that what’s going on never happened.
Everything they say is advertising, and there’s no sense in engaging them.
They’re filth.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:33 pm.
Broken federal law at LEAST thirteen times (plus treaty violations, plus NSA, plus, plus).
http://rawstory.com/other/conyersreportrawstory.pdf
(the Afterdowningstreet copy appears not to be functioning).
March 1st, 2006 at 4:34 pmIn 18, you should also replace ‘truth’ with ‘lie.’
Kinda the same thing, Bush, only it’s the opposite.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:35 pmNot quite terry’s response, but I’ve kind of become used to what the repubs usually try to pull outta their asses.
Blame the whole thing on Clinton.
Yup, Bubba got us to invade Iraq. Look out, Bubba is gonna make us invade Iran next.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:35 pmWow. They’ve just left the stratosphere and now have absolutely no relationship to reality. I wonder how many people who work there just throw their hands up every day about what a joke their “news coverage” is.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:35 pmFox News has a new slogan to replace Fair and Balanced.
Fox News: “War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorence is Strength”…ba,ba,ba,ba,ba, badum.
-GSD
March 1st, 2006 at 4:36 pmI have now changed sides in this debate. After all this time tipping my hat towards the left I now have finally gotten the evidence I was looking for to know where I should stand.
You see this whole thing has to do with Bill Clinton. He was actually a space alien. The republicans have been trying to save America from the alien invasion and that is why they tried getting rid of Clinton. That is also why they hate Hillary…what kind of human being would marry an alien?
Anyway the Iraqis are aliens also. And the reason that we didn’t find any WMDs is because alien WMDs are deathray guns and we had just assumed we should be looking for bombs.
ALL of this has been covered up by the mass media…because they are aliens. And these godless aliens have been brainwashing America into being godless also ever since 1929 right before the aliens made the stock market crash which setup the arrival of the head alien at the time FDR.
When the right finally gets their facts straight and lines it all up for you to see…their story is quite convincing.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:38 pmFox News: Iraq Civil War “Made Up By The Media?â€
Well, really, yes, they, specially the Fox, made up the WHOLE IRAQ WAR. Beginning with the WMD excuse, and the toppling of Saddam excuse, and the spreading of democracy excuse, etc.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:44 pmI got another one for em:
Holocaust in Germany:
March 1st, 2006 at 4:45 pmMade up by Jews?
#29,
Do you have to be an OT VII to know all that?
March 1st, 2006 at 4:46 pmNo civil war? Negroponte either did not get that memo from rove or hasn’t read it yet.
WASHINGTON – A civil war in Iraq could lead to a broader conflict in the Middle East, pitting the region’s rival Islamic sects against each another, National Intelligence Director John Negroponte said in an unusually frank assessment Tuesday.
“If chaos were to descend upon Iraq or the forces of democracy were to be defeated in that country … this would have implications for the rest of the Middle East region and, indeed, the world,†Negroponte said at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on global threats.
Saudi Arabia and Jordan could support Iraq’s Sunnis, Negroponte said. And Iran, run by a Shiite Islamic theocracy, “has already got quite close ties with some of the extremist elements†inside Iraq, he added.
While Iraq’s neighbors “initially might be reluctant†to get involved in a broader Sunni-Shiite conflict, “that might well be a temptation,†Negroponte said.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:48 pm#32, no, you have to believe that Fox news is a direct line from God and drink the kool aide.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:48 pmand don’t forget to wear those Nikies for the trip to the ship.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:50 pmSince everything is so rosey in iraq, fox should send its news guys there for a spin and get some fresh reporting done on how schools, water, electricity and also a normal ride in baghdad is done? That is how they should shut all of us liberals up.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:50 pmBorna
Do they really think that anybody, besides Fox News viewers are going to believe this line of horse shit?
March 1st, 2006 at 4:51 pmIsn’t _FOX_ media guilty of fomenting civil war right here in the U.S. of A.?
March 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pmIt’s not Faux News so much as its Cavuto. The guy truly is a f#cking liar. Straight up, made up “news”. Every broadcast.
Of all the clowns who hibernate at Faux, aside from the completely unwatchable “Hair” Hannity, Cavuto is off-the-charts crap.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pmI don’t think there is anything about Iraq that the right can ‘blame on the liberals’. This is Dubya’s mess almost entirely.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pm#36–GREAT IDEA! Let’s challenge them to send a reporter out to report all the NON civil-war stuff going on. Let’s have Cavuto himself just grab the mic and take a stroll thru Bhagdad. Put up or shut up, they say…
March 1st, 2006 at 4:54 pm#41 ALL OF THEM, its put up or STFU time.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:58 pm“This is Dubya’s mess almost entirely.” There is no almost about it.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:58 pmOrwell’s book 1984 should be reread by everyone soon. It has certainly become the Republican playbook.
March 1st, 2006 at 4:58 pmI dont think its civil war yet in Iraq but getting close.
I watch the death counts all the time usually its about 1000 a month , 1500 is a higher amount than normal in 10 days
But a civil war they would be at it like hammer and tonges i would expext 1500 per hour to be civil war
dont get me wrong ive been against this illegal invasion from the start ,,,,BUSH wants civil war for some reason and trying his best to get civil war possibly by black op missions and we all know that and so do Iraqis… they just want you to leave and have asked for you to do so before , but Bush just makes up properganda and lies to stay
Withdrawal Of Occupation Forces,From Cairo
We demand the withdrawal of foreign forces in accordance with a timetable, and the establishment of a national and immediate program for rebuilding the armed forces…that will allow them to guard Iraq’s borders and to get control of the security situation……..
President Hosni Mubarak and Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika and the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran—but no U.S. officials. The gathering was strongly supported not only by the Arab League but also by the U.N., EU and the Organization of the Islamic Conference.
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2005/11/23/from_cairo_hope.php
March 1st, 2006 at 4:59 pmShall we take up a collection to send Brit & the gang to Iraq, so they can report the GOOD NEWS the RadLibFemFaguccino media refuses to air?
I, for one, think they deserve every resource it takes to put them on the ground in Faluja in a big red, white & blue Hummer topped with a dish antenna, aromatic of freedom fries and pork fat. I would watch FOX to see that!
March 1st, 2006 at 4:59 pmSo by blaming the Media, they infer that they are not part of the Media… That’s about the only true thing in their entire broadcast.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:01 pmFaux News: At the speed of lies.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pmCNN
March 1, 2006
Bush visit to India centers on nuclear pact
Thousands protest U.S. president’s first trip to country
Yes, I can see how Bush approval rating is all based on the lies put forth by American Democrats and liberals. Oh and don’t forget the “liberal American media.”
Bush is loved around the world for spreading Democracy.
Go Bush!
March 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pmThis is just way, way, waaaayyyy too fu©k!ng low.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pmDid they put Rove in control of the text graphics?
Seriously, who comes up with this sh!t!?
If they’re going to make such outrageous assertions, why don’t they give similiar attention to calls for a new 9-11 investigation based on US government involvement and coverup?
D!ckheads.
it has occured to me for some time that trolls in and republican brown nosers here like to steal the top position as to cover up good posts
March 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pmIt’s time to organize boycotts of advertisers who support the dangerous propoganda machine called Fox News.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:03 pmWag that dog, baby!
March 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pmYou f*cking liberals are seeing first hand how ruthless Al Qaeda is. They are the ones behind the latest bombings and attacks on mosques. This is a sign of how desperate they have become and they know they are in their last days. The reason why Fox has the story at all is because civil war is what you guys have been praying and hoping for. Maybe just hoping, since you guys don’t believe in prayer. I hope our military along with the Iraqi army takes out the rest of Al Qaeda once and for all and can finally bring peace to Iraq. You would hate that most of all.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:07 pmI only read the independent news paper online ….I would never ever dream of buying a tabloid paper, you just encourage right wing lies …you can blame governments for everything ,,But even more than them i blame the press ,,,without the propaganda by the press the governments would not be in their possition
March 1st, 2006 at 5:09 pm#33 that’s a great point…I was reading that earlier on Yahoo news. Negroponte definitely didn’t get the memo.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:10 pmI respect what Bin Laden says a lot more than Bush and i suspect more people in the world do , at least he makes sense in waht he says Bush is a complete moron on his own and even with all his staff behind him he still dont make sense
March 1st, 2006 at 5:11 pmIn fact when you apply Bushes words its a if he were speaking about himself …I never get that from Bin Ladens texts ???????????????
March 1st, 2006 at 5:12 pmIf the media was able to “fully” cover what is going on in Iraq, it would look like a civil war without propaganda … 1300 dead since last Wednesday.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:13 pmFox News—the U.S.’s answer to Pravda.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:15 pm#45 I dont think its civil war yet in Iraq but getting close.
I watch the death counts all the time usually its about 1000 a month , 1500 is a higher amount than normal in 10 days
But a civil war they would be at it like hammer and tonges i would expext 1500 per hour to be civil war
March 1st, 2006 at 5:15 pmNext from FOX:
March 1st, 2006 at 5:15 pm“FISA? It’s unconstitutional!”
Well of course Fox news makes another outrageous claim. Although my favorite was when they played music over the telecast of the U.S. bombing of Baghdad. Oh and Rush Limbaugh speaks like there is a cork in his ass.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:15 pmNext from Fox: President Clinton smoking pot but not inhaling is far worse then President Bush’s coke problem in college.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:17 pmThe AEI Kristol FAUX news and Murdoch Fascism explained by Mr Ledeens cheerleader plans for death and destruction
More think-tank “ISM’s” and rehashed history renamed, again.Heres what the head Machevellian ‘thinker’ has to say about neo-consMichael Ledeen, leading neocon theoretician, expert on Machiavelli, holder of the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute, regular columnist for National Review—and the principal cheerleader today for an extension of the war on terror to include regime change in Iran.
Ledeen has gained notoriety in recent months for the following paragraph in his latest book, The War Against the Terror Masters. In what reads like a prophetic approval of the policy of chaos now being visited on Iraq, Ledeen wrote,
Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our own society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema to politics and the law. Our enemies have always hated this whirlwind of energy and creativity, which menaces their traditions (whatever they may be) and shames them for their inability to keep pace. Seeing America undo traditional societies, they fear us, for they do not wish to be undone. They cannot feel secure so long as we are there, for our very existence—our existence, not our politics—threatens their legitimacy. They must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:18 pmNothing new to post #54?
March 1st, 2006 at 5:19 pmSame old Rove/GOP/Fox spin?
I think maybe you need some new material
as that load is pretty tired by now.
I don’t think even your base listens
to that drivel anymore.
Anyway, we were discussing Fox’s attempt
to run through the usual list of spin points.
Just to recap:
1) Deny it
2) Blame someone else (In this case the media,
which is Fox too – they aren’t not too bright
on that network)
3) Clinton maybe? Liberals maybe? Certainly
someone who has nothing to do with it and
no power to affect policy.
4) The Iraqis for having a Golden Shrine to begin
with.
mr Leeeden speaks not of Iraq today, but of Historic Missions.
What Historic mission does he speak of?
The Noble Cause? That WAR keeps them in power?
To destroy so they can profit from reconstruction?
Aye, Redustists indeed.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:20 pmI have a relative who went to Yale with Bush. Apparently Bush and another guy beat the sh*t out of some kid one day in his dorm room and left him there. Couldn’t tell you why is happened but the kid was unconscious.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:20 pmI hate to say it but theres only one person alive who can bring peace and tranquillity to Iraq, unfortunately he’s on trial for his life over there. Bush needs to make a face saving deal with him, or else its civil war, and we lose.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:20 pmWe already knew how bad al Qaida is. That is why Bill Clinton created Able Danger to take them out. You know the guys who warned George W. Bush about them. Also, Richard Clark sent a letter to Rice on January 25, 2001 warning her about al Qaida. Catch up.
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB147/clarke%20memo.pdf
Okay, Dick “They are in their last days” Cheney.
Yes, because you never hear us PROGRESSIVES complain about the innocent people that have already died as a result of this illegal war. We are just smart enough, just like George H. W. Bush, to realize that going into Baghdad would lead to a civil war. But, you are too young, don’t have military experience to realize that.
You guys don’t hold a monopoly on religion. Dumbass.
al Qaida is in Pakistan, not Iraq. Remember our January 16, 2006 attack in PAKISTAN to kill Zwahiri? You really are out of touch with reality.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:21 pmThis is a desperate “duck left feint right” attempt to divert attention, one that nobody should fall for. By getting us to talk about whether the civil war is made up, it distracts from the very real need to withdraw troops from Viet…er, I mean Iraq. Every day they’ll throw another asinine accusation towards the left. While the left tries to formulate a thoughtful honest answer, Fox will throw out three more zingers. It doesn’t matter whather or not they all stick, they just have to keep the left constantly on the defense, so that no change is made to the Administration’s plans.
THe time has come for everyone in the media to start using “Fox News” and “Weekly World News” in the same sentence. Don’t get angry, don’t hurl invective, and don’t take them seriously. Their nonsense should be considered on par with Bigfoot Babies, Bat Boys & Losing Weight the 12 pounds of fudge daily stories that is the WWN’s stock in trade. Just roll your eyes and say “oh, that Fox, pulling lies outta their fat white asses again!” The more we say that, the less anyone but the most diehard conservatives-the ones whose heads would explode if they didn’t believe Fox’s horseshit-will choose to watch or believe the lies Fox spin.
“Civil War in Iraq: Made Up By The Media?”
Oh, Fox, you and your horseshittery. It would be funny if it weren’t for the fact that so many impressionable senior citizens take you seriously. But it’s still horseshittery. There’s a civil war. Keep lying about it while earnest intelligent talk about the next step.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:22 pmFaux News is not recognized as a news provider in Europe!!! I believe it does well in spreading it’s muck in the land of trailor trash.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:23 pmWhat a waste of space you lot are. How on earth can you expect to be seen as a nation for the world to look up to.
AEI is creative destruction.
and Mr Leeden proves it.
Thank you Mr Ledeen for your
machiavellian inhumanitarian ways.
Wake up my fellow christians. These people only wanted your vote and they Lied in every way possible to get it.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:23 pm#70,
You really are out of touch with reality.
I think one gets that way from watching Fox. You
March 1st, 2006 at 5:25 pmknow, the “alternate reality” network.
Comment by . — March 1, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
#54 You f*cking liberals…..
Next stop fantasy land.
Much of the fighting is the internecine battle between rival Shiite factions, and between Sunnis who are afraid of Shiite politcal dominance, not “Al Qaeda” you brainwashed dildo. Although there are terrorist elements, most of the fighting against the US is Abdul Q. Public who doesn’t like foreigners with guns in his nation.
If you watched something other than colonoscopy scans of Cavuto’s bunghole, you would know that.
So, please continue with the fantasy that “everything is just fine”. It doesn’t change reality.
-GSD
March 1st, 2006 at 5:25 pmwhat america needs is a civil war …..
March 1st, 2006 at 5:25 pm#72 well said your aggreeing with #55 in a sense
March 1st, 2006 at 5:27 pmCouldn’t they send a “real” newsman to check it out?
Say, Brit Hume?
March 1st, 2006 at 5:28 pm1500 would appear accurate with a possible error of 2-300. The tallies are based on morgue counts but the folks at the morgue know a spike when they see one.
AP Wire Service was reporting a 1000 count yesterday evening and that was based on morgue counts – not all bodies go straight to the morgue or are picked up quickly.
Anyway, alot of Iraqis are dying in sectarian violence.
Note the AP story about Sunnis sending arms into Baghdad so they will be ‘prepared’ against the Shiite militias next time?
Well, it’s the Kurds that have less to worry about. Their force is pretty good at maintaing security.
Fox is unbelievable. I bet they declare a civil war a period in which 50,000 Iraqis die in one month. Seriously, what number will it take?
We also have Khalizad as our ambassador to Iraq now. The man thinks he is a modern colonial ruler. Remember the stories of him in Aghanistan and how he was central to all the brokering? Well Iraq isn’t Afghanistan and he is meddling and taking sides at the same time. He was a bad choice for an ambassador. He also makes his opposition to ministers publicly know which is incredibly stupid.
There is a real question of what we do if/when this civil war starts – right now it’s more revenge attacks centered on Baghdad, although it is spreading. The Shiite militias would need to get really involved for it to be a full scale civil war.
Right now ethnic cleansing would describe Iraq pretty well. It’d certainly describe ‘Kurdistan’.
I think Bush would intervene in a civil war. He obviously doesn’t care about his approval ratings and the Congress wouldn’t cut funding if it was seen as hurting troops – at least not in any huge way. Bush wants a LEGACY and his legacy will be horrid. Letting Iraq plunge into a civil war and break apart would, in his mind, ruin both that adventure and his grand plans for the middle east.
Expect heavy American intervention if such a thing occurred. Sadly we’d be drawn into a conflict that would probably bring in the neighbors. Turkey would probably not get involved just because of its EU aspirations.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:28 pmJames,
NPR reported that bodies were turned away because the morgues were full. So, the number is higher than what is reported.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:30 pmWhat America needs is another War of the Roses to get the people out of office, and the destructive ‘Elites’ that keep starting all this crap.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:30 pm#54 – like you supported Clinton’s policies? No one want’s a civil war in Iraq. We just want justice served. Bu$hco is a Fascist bag of lifers who use tools like you to make the largest profits in history, while burning out military out. Afghanistan is the war on Terror, the front line. Iraq is a corp trek for those who really run the show. Sorry to break it to you but your boy bushy is just a lap dog in the scheme of things. Gangsters plain and simple. Russia Mafia has nothing on but$hco.
Darth vader Cheney’s Halliburton, is feeding our troops spoiled food, food that has been in transport under attack full of shrapnel, and over charging ME AND YOU for a shit job. But you support the troops right ass hole? only gangsters can take the best military in the world and turn them into a broken army, wanting to come home (70% of troops want to leave this year).
When bush says we are fighting terrorists in Iraq, (5% at best of the insurgency) he is only keeping the smoke screen up for assholes like you. (you should really try using your nose, breathing from the mouth is seen as ape-like in some circles)
See every day our 140K+ troops are deployed in Iraq, is that many meals Hallifuckus can charge for, and that many more they can say they served and charge anyway. You think our Tax dollars should spend $45 for a case of coke? You just don’t have a mind of your own. You don’t know what to do when you realize you lost, you are following a loosing party. Remember, they were buying Kuwait oil for over double the price, OUR TAX DOLLARS MIND YOU. but that is fine with you.
We should be winning the hearts and minds of the Muslims, instead we are gearing up more suicide bombers. Iran has over 6 million suicide bombers ready to go. What are asswipes like you going to do when the flood Iraq and show up in our malls while your fat stupid dirty girl friend is shopping for nascar and britney spears record. Bush cracked open a hornets nest. Even Reagen was smart enough and knew what the old school of power says, You play your best hand – if bush was half a man he would meet with the Iranian president and just simply tell him: If USA is hit with any Nuke, no matter who did it, Iran will be off the map the very same hour. It is basic leadership. We are the greatest nation in the world, the best arsenal anywhere. We don’t have to run, or “fight them over there”. We just have to use what we have with intelligence. I bet you love the port deal too right, anything for Bu$hco is perfect for you, just don’t let him get a blowjob ha? Oh but I have a feeling you wouldn’t care if bush cheated on his wife, Monica-gate was just the only stick you could hit Clinton with that hurt.
Democrats gave us Social Security (the most successful government program ever)
March 1st, 2006 at 5:33 pmDemocrats gave us civil rights legislation
Democrats gave us Medicare
Democrats gave us seatbelts & airbags
Democrats gave us public broadcasting
Democrats gave us the Freedom of Information Act
Democrats gave us environmental laws
Democrats gave us the Americans with Disabilities Act
Democrats gave us workplace safety laws
Democrats gave us food safety laws
Democrats gave us food labeling laws
Democrats gave us the GI Bill
Democrats gave us low-income housing
Democrats gave us the Tennessee Valley Project
Democrats gave us the Peace Corps
Democrats gave us the longest period of economic expansion in history (under Bill Clinton)
Democrats gave us the lowest infant mortality rate in history. (It’s going up now, of course)
Democrats gave us consumer protection laws
Democrats gave us improved air quality
Democrats gave us the internet
Democrats gave us the Center for Disease Control & Prevention (Republicans hate this kind of stuff; they’re very mean)
Democrats gave us Affirmative Action (which 64% of Americans favor. Don’t listen to the right-wing disinformation machine: affirmative action has helped the income, promotion and labor force participation rates of both women and minorities. That’s why Republicans hate it. If it hadn’t worked, they wouldn’t mind.)
Democrats promote space exploration
Democrats gave us the Family & Medical Leave Act
Democrats gave us the Consumer Product Safety Commission
Democrats cleaned up the Great Lakes (did so!)
Democrats protect endangered species
Democrats got a ban on CFC’s, DDT, PCB’s, & leaded gasoline (plus who knows what other toxic stuff we & our kids would still be enjoying–if Republicans had always ruled)
Democrats gave us rural electrification
Democrats got you public schooling
Democrats gave us the National Weather Service
Democrats gave us truth-in-advertising laws
Democrats gave us the Morrill Land Grant Act (this act is the reason nearly every state has a large public university)
Democrats gave us public universities (Democrats are less afraid of people getting educated than Republicans are)
Democrats promote & fund scientific research
Democrats gave us guaranteed bank deposits
Democrats helped women get the vote (the Republicans forestalled it until the 1920’s; bad Republicans!)
Democrats passed child-labor laws
Democrats got us Meals on Wheels
Democrats promote scientific & technological research
Democrats promote student financial aid
Democrats promote child immunizations (which reached record levels under the Clinton Administration)
Democrats make the poverty rate go down (Check it out: the New Deal reduced America’s poverty rate from over 50% to less than 20%)
Democrats lower the crime rate (it dropped for 8 successive years under Clinton–the longest continuous drop on record; what can I say?)
Democrats fought discrimination (The Republicans supported it: remember?)
Democrats help develop alternative energy sources (whereas the Republicans plan to take us down with the dinosaurs)
Democrats control immigration (better than Republicans; Bill Clinton exported more illegals than any President ever)
Democrats created special education programs, handicapped education programs, job retraining programs, etc., etc. (Republicans destroy same, capice?)
Democrats improve the educational system (whereas Republicans sell it down the river)
Democrats protect you from malignant corporations (Republicans feed you to them)
The GNP grows more under Democrats (thought you might like to know)
Democrats lowered the teen birth rate (under Clinton, to its lowest rate in 60 years)
Democrats deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union (Clinton again. Thank you, Bill!)
Democrats gave us the highest home ownership rate in American history (Clinton again)
Democrats converted the largest budget deficit in American history into the largest surplus (which GWB has incredibly turned back into the biggest deficit AGAIN!)
Democrats gave us smaller government (That’s right! The Federal government grows much less under Democrats)
Democrats reduce federal spending (to the lowest level since 1966 under the last elected President)
Democrats gave us the most exports ever (under Clinton)
Democrats can get the FDA working again (do not take any drugs approved under this administration; it’s that bad)
Democrats would represent most people (most people want the liberal things–environmentalism, gun control, international cooperation, less torture; Republicans, by contrast, want things that most Americans hate)
Democrats can fix this gross income-inequality thing (income equality correlates significantly with mortality rates, crime, poor educational outcomes, substance abuse, etc.)
Democrats are not so into crackpot science & crackpot stats (science backs up the Democrats; junk science backs up the Right)
Democrats will give us a health-care system (think about it; the lifespans of Canadians are now 2 years more than ours–because of their healthcare system)
The African-American poverty rates dropped to their lowest levels EVER under the last Democratic administration.
The poverty rate for single mothers reached its lowest level EVER under Clinton.
#64 Dave, bush did not have a coke problem in college, he had all he needed.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:33 pmI’m the last one to defend fox but there was a journlist reporting that all is well in most of Iraq ad that these insidents are sporadic——-Says he traveled extensively and that is what he observed—-not that I believe it but the fact that he was on the news today makes it a slightly different story—-We need to find out who this journalist is and what he is about.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:34 pmI just thought cant you get say that wonderbra girls to walk into the whitehouse and go down on Bushes white house Cigar and then impeach him
March 1st, 2006 at 5:35 pmSuch lies are believable to our public for a reason. Today’s poll regarding the First Amendment and “The Simpsons” explains why.
Read it and I promise you’ll never look at your pet in quite the same way. Oy vey.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:38 pmFox news has an effect on what, a million people? It’s a sideshow. There is little doubt that the majority of Americans have figured out that no matter how many times GWB says “stay the course” that the strategy just isn’t working. Why do you think the republicans in Congress are using the DPW deal to put out the idea that they don’t march lock step with the president?
March 1st, 2006 at 5:39 pmThe strategy won’t change,though,until we see more than a couple of deaths a week. When the real civil war breaks out (like if we were stupid enough to hit Iran) and the death toll mounts,then there will be real pressure to change course.
Just like the FAA does after crashes,changes are written in blood.
Blair wants Guantanamo shut down
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/40FF11CB-B1E9-4CB8-A861-D84B866DF570.htm
March 1st, 2006 at 5:43 pmTJM,
The Golden Mosque was blown up on February 22, 2006. Exactly one week ago. A rough estimate of the deaths is 1,500 in that week. But, as I said above, morgues are turning away bodies, because they are full. This is a lot more the a couple of deaths a week.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:43 pm#87 theres more than a couple American deaths a week more like 2-3 a day
http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/
http://icasualties.org/oif/USChart.aspx
you must actually watch fox news to beleive that figure
March 1st, 2006 at 5:46 pmThe Iraq war is burning $100,000 a minute, 6 Billion a month!
For what? to line the pockets of US contractors while handing Iraq over to Iran?
We are witnessing the complete breakdown of our government. It’s not a question. It’s real. The administration does not give a shit about us. Period. End of story. There is no argument. There are no grey areas. They are all intent on screwing us out of everything we have and leaving us a destitute 3rd world country. I’m not guessing or crazy or going off half cocked. They have malice aforethought. They don’t care about our troops. They don’t care what anybody thinks. The agenda is nearly complete. The United States of America has been raped, looted, and her heart has been ripped from her body. The bloody carcass is now being dragged behind a pickup truck somewhere on a ranch in Crawford Tx…
http://bb.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
March 1st, 2006 at 5:46 pmPerhaps Fox needs better situational awareness before they report it as fact.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:46 pmYea, tell that to the 68 people that were blown to bits yesterday.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:46 pmObvioulsy YOU liberals can’t read nor digest stats. As you can see below from YOUR liberal BBC – things are getting much better in Iraq. Only people in a cult would think otherwise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4699964.stm
Our president is right, democracy is on the march.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:47 pmlong live BAGHDAD BOB!!!!!
March 1st, 2006 at 5:48 pmbut there have been a 1000 Iraqi deaths a month on average
March 1st, 2006 at 5:48 pmso 1500 in 10 days since the americans blew the mosque is not civil war….civil war would be 1500 an hour
Anthony. Excellent list. Thank you.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:51 pmFox Propaganda Network and Roger Ailes…
…showing you how TREASON is really done…
March 1st, 2006 at 5:53 pmI got it now – with so many Improvised bombs in 05 of 10593
10593 artilery shells basically Not even that many had been stolen in that Bush mishap where they did not police some live amunitions store and they got nicked
I recon there must be some foreign intervention going on to equal 10593 in 05 and Bush is blaming on the missing stockpile so as not to admit that other countries are supplying artillery shells and hate his troop presence
March 1st, 2006 at 5:55 pm#94 the only thing that is on the march is your demise. The more this keeps up, the longer Bu$cho is not behind bars, the more of a chance you will find yourself on the wrong end of a Liberal and his gun. We will take our country back.
One question asswipe, What does Liberty mean? If FOx and your “dear Leader” really support Democracy, why are they fighting Liberty here?
See asswipes like you need a history lesson. Our founding Fathers, wrote the Declaration of Independence because of the SAME THINGS BUSHCO is doing.
“THose willing to give up security for Liberty deserves neither” Ben Franklin.
Liberty means respect of others ideas, every one has sovereignty over their thoughts, lives and property. THis means I am protected from assholes like you who are willing to give up their freedom like scared little girls.
F U C K F O X and assholes like you.
You are just a mouth-breathing bush suckass. Go back to watching Britney’s chaotic and sucking down garbage beer.
Don’t worry, the Arabs will protect your ports while china dumps our $$ and your burger flipping job won’t seem so bad.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:57 pmThank you Bush, Cheney, MSM media, Kristol, Perle and all those other Lobbyists, Senators, Falwell and AEI type groups for making America the Puppet People.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=VAL20060216&articleId=1984
Land of the Puppet People
Manipulate the American citizenry into a warmongering escapade
Never before has a society been afforded the wealth and excessiveness that we possess, yet neither has a citizenry been subjected to the consequences invariably arising in order to achieve those ends. Unhappiness, depression, financial hardship, stress, inner demons, anger, dislike, psychological problems, undisciplined and unreared children are some of the costs of maintaining our standards of living. The escapism needed to forget the madness of these costs, accumulated year after year, in daily life, work, finances and society, stands like an idol ready to be worshipped in the middle of our homes, its dark screen awakened with the push of a remote control.
It is the television, that drug of mental escapism and intellectual erosion, the invaluable purveyor of fantasy and fiction, that serves to distract, distort and alleviate the stresses of a life made exceedingly harder by the continued growth of the corporatist state, where profit will always supercede people and the interests of the corporation will always trump those of the People. Yet in the television we also see the greatest tool of mass manipulation ever created, in the last few decades discovered by government and corporate interests for the incredible power emanating from its warm glow. In the span of a couple of decades it has transformed human society, acting as the corporate and governmental invasion of our homes, and into our brainwaves, affecting both the innocent and the old, indiscriminately penetrating the minds of black and white, male and female.
The propaganda emanating from its waves and the fiction produced by its owners has mutated American society into one of slouching couch potatoes, dumbed down ignoramuses, lazy and indifferent citizens, unthinking drones and brainwashed primates, turning a citizenry of creativity, vision, imagination and intelligence into one devoid of each, eroding the minds of experience and altering those of innocence, slowly catapulting America into the precipice of intellectual and knowledge collapse. It is the television that has created the amnesia running rampant from Pacific to Atlantic, saturating us with the brain manipulations of the corporatist world, creating a population needing the sensationalist programming designed to dumb down and distract, feeding into our minds senseless garbage of celebrity adoration and idol worship, introducing us to wave after wave of scheming advertisements and the thoughts and opinions the Establishment want us to incorporate as our own.
March 1st, 2006 at 5:59 pmGood job, Anthony. Good work.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:00 pmI think he’s on oxycontin, but I doubt if it’s just one drug. His bragging may change from time to time, and I only catch him on radio when scanning. I think he says something like, “I’m on loan from God.” I’m sure he doesn’t know how bad that sounds, but maybe his drugs keep him from knowing much of anything.
I caught Ingram, being all upset about the negative reporting going on about Iraq. These 2 have their work cut out for them flying in the face of reality the way they have all these years, and I guess now its just different as in tougher; and still come across as an responsible, human being.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:00 pmtill
I recon some of the trolls in here are army casualties seeking employment by posting right wing views – its the only way to explain their bitterness at liberal minded people
March 1st, 2006 at 6:01 pmAnthony,
Lib Basher has got to be sarcasm.
Look at his stats:
Unless Lib Basher thinks higher numbers are better, in which case, he is a complete moron.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:02 pmAfter reading this thread all I got to say is …why do you progressives never give any links or facts or anything else that backs you up?
March 1st, 2006 at 6:04 pm
Comment by Spudge_Boy — March 1, 2006 @ 6:02 pm
Spudge…he was using sarcasm….or it actually could be the meltdown logic of the modern day Bushole sockpuppet.
-GSD
March 1st, 2006 at 6:04 pmOur president is right, democracy is on the march.
Comment by Lib Basher — March 1, 2006 @ 5:47 pm
go to Iraq and tell that to the troops, 72% of which want out that your president is right.
I would ve very careful though because you are likely to be the one that gets bashed.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:05 pmBesides that what makes you think everyone here is a ‘Librul’
but their is only a few that post here as you do.
You are simply the new IRI or Wwallace incarnate
Obvioulsy YOU liberals can’t read nor digest stats. As you can see below from YOUR liberal BBC – things are getting much better in Iraq. Only people in a cult would think otherwise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 1/ hi/ world/ middle_east/ 4699964.stm
2004
Total attacks: 26496
Improvised bombs: 5607
Car bombings: 420
Suicide car bombings: 133
Suicide bombers wearing explosive vests: 7
2005
Total attacks: 34131
Improvised bombs: 10593
Car bombings: 873
Suicide car bombings: 411
Suicide bombers wearing explosive vests: 67
Our president is right, democracy is on the march.
Comment by Lib Basher — March 1, 2006 @ 5:47 pm
How can you say things are getting better more attacks in 2005 than 2004? In every catagory you post the numbers are higher for 2005 than 2004, so an esclating insurgency if not a slow boiling civil war is democracy on the march , not a worsening of the situation?
March 1st, 2006 at 6:06 pm101# thats what i tried to say the media is more at fault than Bush , but without the killing murdering bit that Bush does
March 1st, 2006 at 6:06 pm“The United States Constitution: Made up by the media?”
March 1st, 2006 at 6:06 pmYou gotta love Fox News- always ready to spout the latest GOP talking point, 24/7. It’s like a never-ending campaign commercial.
It is clear, based on recent statements by William Kristol, Bill Buckley and others on the Right, that they now realize Iraq has been an utter failure and are already politically working to place blame on anyone other than Bush. This Fox News crap is just part of that.
They will blame the media, they will blame liberals, they will blame democrats and on and on. Great leadership, huh? One of the thing about great Presidents in the past (FDR, Truman, etc) was an ability to take responsibility for THEIR agenda and THEIR decisions. This is a leadership quality that is totally lost on Bush and his loyalists. Karl Rove spends most of his time trying to insulate Bush from everything and the media just sits back and allows it.
Look at the whole Plamegate scandal- BUsh just sat back and played dumb even though it involved his top aides. When WMDs weren’t found, it was all the CIA’s fault despite the evidence trickling out that the administration cherry-picked the intelligence it liked and ignored all the evidence that contradicted their decision to invade Iraq. Hurricane Katrina? Everyone else’s fault. Then with the Dubai Port scandal, the administration is claiming Bush didn’t know about it until it was in the papers- so he’s either an idiot or a liar.
This is the “take no responsibility” President.
Shameful.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:07 pm54, uh-huh.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:08 pmfucking prayer you don’t fucking pray!!!only i know God and he says KILL KILL KILL! what a jackass. rush said you need to take these. here’s some koolaid to wash ‘em down with. idiot.
prehaps bin Laden should have landed on plane on fox news headquarters. what a difference to public oppinion that would have made….there would be dancin in the streets
March 1st, 2006 at 6:09 pm#After reading this thread all I got to say is …why do you progressives never give any links or facts or anything else that backs you up?
Comment by Gerald Gibson — March 1, 2006 @ 6:04 pm
go tired of repeating myself mostly and digging up the same links to the Same neo-con arguments that have been debunked so many times its not even funny.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:10 pmAs for FAUX news, yes I posted the SEC info. Its really Called ‘News corp’ and is a Huge right Wing Conglomerate.
Google news corp+sec
Im tired of linking whats been linked once and the thorough debunking that media is ‘liberal’
The boys and girls at Fox are in it for the money. Hannity – O’Reilly sold their souls along time ago. They are interested in one thing. Self promotion and the money it brings.
They are interested in pulling 1% of the US population so they can be paid millions. Boycott everything FOX – get a little more exercise – take a walk. Focus on your self and leave these ass clowns to their fate. The are desperate because they are tethered to Bush.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:16 pmmy brother is over there right now and was asked by the family how is everything. he said if you like bombs and bullets everything is great. and it is a mess.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:23 pmHere is a Typical Neo-Con Blame Game Statement Gerald Gibson
Can you point out any Facts in this?
Naw, its Paranoid Blame Game.
People, perhaps as you, take this is literally.
Perhaos it fits that Racial Bias they have
so in a way to them it is a ‘Fact’
The Fact is really nothing more than Opinion.
Read this Gerald;
——————————-
Julie Burchill, writing in Haaretz on February 17:
“Anyway, from now on I think I’ll get just a few less accusations of racism when I point out that Muslims can be a bit, well, narrow-minded. Mind you, it’s a long hard struggle trying to make bleeding-heart liberals see sense. Especially when you live in a country where a sizable part of the print and broadcasting media are such guilt-ridden cretins when it comes to Islam that if they saw Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein sexually sharing their own grandmother, they’d swear the poor old lady asked for it.”
March 1st, 2006 at 6:24 pm———————–
change the word ‘librul’ to ‘conservative’ and you would disagree with this remark, perhaps get angry, even though PARTY has nothing to do with it, you would become the Conservative Scape goat
—————————
ulie Burchill
“Anyway, from now on I think I’ll get just a few less accusations of racism when I point out that Republicans can be a bit, well, narrow-minded. Mind you, it’s a long hard struggle trying to make greedy-heart conservatives see sense. Especially when you live in a country where a sizable part of the print and broadcasting right wing media are such guilt-ridden cretins when it comes to Islam that if they saw Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein sexually sharing their own grandmother, they’d swear the poor old lady asked for it.”
———————————–
Capice?
No Spudge,I meant US deaths. Few people here are going to clamor for change based on Iraqi deaths,sad though that is.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:25 pmI just don’t see the groundswell becoming more of a factor for us leaving soon without the rate of US casualties increasing.
There was an interesting story about the Marines in Anbar province who haven’t really heard of the mosque attack and the new round of sectarian violence.
http://www.mercurynews.com
The real fun will begin in a couple of years when the Pentagon, CIA staffers, Military can speak freely. Bush will go down in history as the most pathetic leader of modern times.
He should be like Grant drink thru his remaining term…oh thats right Grant had military experience…he could not even live up to Grant’s legacy
Clueless to the end – He may a breakdown before end of term.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:27 pmHow about after Bush’s heroic prevention of the “Liberty” Tower (aka the Library tower aka The US Bank Tower) being destroyed by evil doers FOXnews showed the scene from the film Independence Day where the tower was zapped by Aliens. You can’t make this stuff up.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:31 pm”85. I just thought cant you get say that wonderbra girls to walk into the whitehouse and go down on Bushes white house Cigar and then impeach him”
Wouldn’t work……. our coward Bush has had too many White House visits by his homosexual prostitute Gannon/Guckert.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:33 pmFox News is now officially a propaganda tool for the Bush Administration. Makes you wonder if Fox is being funded by the Government illegally. What do you think?
March 1st, 2006 at 6:34 pmTHEIR ARGUMENTS WOULD HOLD MORE WEIGHT IF THERE WEREN’T SO MANY DEAD BODIES LYING AROUND.
BUT THIS GIVES ME ANOTHER IDEA:
FUTURE FOX NEWS HEADLINE–”IRAQ WAR GOING SWIMMINGLY!”
March 1st, 2006 at 6:35 pmBREAKING NEWS ALERTS!!! THESE JUST IN; DETAILS TO FOLLOW: BILL CLINTON SANK THE TITANIC/CUSTER WHIPS INDIANS AT LITTLE BIG HORN……
March 1st, 2006 at 6:39 pmWhat buiseness does Pineapple Head Cavuto have discussing anything but financial matters?
What’s the name of his stupid show?
This is how Fox/Saudi News describes Cavuto’s show:
“”Your World with Neil Cavuto” offers news and insight on Wall Street and other market activities, while wrapping up the business news of the day.”
Also, remember how Cavuto predicted that the markets would love George Bush during the 2000 campaign?
March 1st, 2006 at 6:46 pmI think it’s time. Time for each and every one of to put a stop to this. It’s not funny and it’s counter productive for democracy and America.
It’s the fault of our fellow Americans. They are to blame. Bush and the Republicans are only using them.
It’s time to finally realize that the only thing that is understood is violence. Nothing else works.
Nothing else can override the brainwashing of a fat guy from Florida and a world activist for religious terrorism from Australian.
It’s time. It’s scary. It’s heartbreaking. It’s time to cut out the cancer so the patient can live on.
The only decision is how?
March 1st, 2006 at 6:46 pm“According to the Washington Post, at least 1300 people have died in violence since last week’s bombing of a holy Shiite shrine in Samarra.”
-DemocracyNow! headlines 03/01/06
Nothing to see here. Move along.
‘We are making progress in Iraq’
‘Freedom is on the march’
‘Did you watch American Idol?’
‘Hey, isn’t that the new Hummer over there?’
How braindead has our culture become ?!?!
March 1st, 2006 at 6:47 pmThis msut be sarcasm also.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:50 pmTrue, the average American could give a crap less when Arabs die. “Time for Survivor.”
March 1st, 2006 at 6:54 pmGerald gibson, is that all that is left for you to do is make an overly broad statement, change the subject and offer nothing of your own but criticism. Why you sound like a democrat. Isn’t that the way the GOP frames the Democratic oppostion? How ironic.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:57 pm“We have to address the fact that the president has broken the law.†— Senator Russ Feingold.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:57 pmAs they deny the numbers of the dead, what would they call this war in Iraq?
March 1st, 2006 at 6:59 pmThis is Bush’s legacy. This is his history.
This is FOX-TV’s reputation – propagandists.
What part of the following won’t ReichWingNuts believe? What part of reality can’t their little wrinkled brains understand?
This is heart wrenching stuff. And George W. Bush is entirely responsible for this disaster. Ah, but the Boy King is made of Teflon.
If we can’t take care of our own, nobody will. The world watches and waits for our formerly great republic to completely fail. FOX News will continue to report that it’s Christmas all over the place. They are the reason why the revolution won’t be televised.
…We woke up this morning to news that men wearing Iraqi security uniforms walked in and detonated explosives, damaging the mosque almost beyond repair. It’s heart-breaking and terrifying. There has been gunfire all over Baghdad since morning. The streets near our neighborhood were eerily empty and calm but there was a tension that had us all sitting on edge. We heard about problems in areas like Baladiyat where there was some rioting and vandalism, etc. and several mosques in Baghdad were attacked. I think what has everyone most disturbed is the fact that the reaction was so swift, like it was just waiting to happen.
All morning we’ve been hearing/watching both Shia and Sunni religious figures speak out against the explosions and emphasise that this is what is wanted by the enemies of Iraq- this is what they would like to achieve- divide and conquer. Extreme Shia are blaming extreme Sunnis and Iraq seems to be falling apart at the seams under foreign occupiers and local fanatics.
No one went to work today as the streets were mostly closed. The situation isn’t good at all. I don’t think I remember things being this tense- everyone is just watching and waiting quietly. There’s so much talk of civil war and yet, with the people I know- Sunnis and Shia alike- I can hardly believe it is a possibility. Educated, sophisticated Iraqis are horrified with the idea of turning against each other, and even not-so-educated Iraqis seem very aware that this is a small part of a bigger, more ominous plan…
Several mosques have been taken over by the Mahdi militia and the Badir people seem to be everywhere. Tomorrow no one is going to work or college or anywhere.
People are scared and watchful. We can only pray.
[from: http://www.riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ ]
March 1st, 2006 at 7:02 pm[...] Fox News is at it again. After debating the pros of an Iraqi civil war, Fox News’ Your World with Cavuto works in reverse by now suggesting that the media is playing “make-believe” and fabricating the sectarian violence. “Civil War” in Iraq: Made Up By the Media? [...]
March 1st, 2006 at 7:05 pmFox News is helping the GOP commit collective political suicide:
Desperation->Denial->Defeat
March 1st, 2006 at 7:13 pmCan’t LIBERALS see that any INCREASE is good.
For every death we are that much closer to a theocratic Islamic state in Iraq – a DEMOCRATICALY elected theocratic state – not one installed like the here in the USA.
You dumb liberals probably think this video is making fun America.
check it out…
Ha Ha Ha America
http://festival.sundance.org/2006/watch/film.aspx?which=402&category=DOC
March 1st, 2006 at 7:20 pmAnybody up on the current percentage of Insurgents that are actually Al-Qualude? That’s why they don’t want to call it a civil war because that would be admitting that Al-Queda doesn’t really make up that much of the forces fighting us . IT”S THE IRAQIS, fighting us.
March 1st, 2006 at 7:28 pmIT’S WORTHWHILE NOTING, for Journalism Majors, Journalists, and especially those that read Journals: This use of the ‘question mark’ in Fox’s on-screen graphic…
Civil War In Iraq: Made Up By The Media?
…now, what kind of reporting is it, that gives it’s readers (or listeners or viewers) ‘questions’ in the headline (or the copy for that matter), when it’s just the opposite you’d expect (which are ‘answers’ of course); what kind of ‘reporting’ is that?
It’ no reporting at all. It’s an attempt to raise doubt where there may be certainty, to raise confusion where there may be uncertainty, and to raise interest where there may be none really at all.
Scandal sheets, gossip rags, snake-oil salesman, marketing/advertisers, politicians, guilty suspects, and Fox News: All those whose ’stock in trade’ is raisng doubt, confusion, and interest in the noise.
But not Journalists, or Journalism. Please.
Regarding the talkling point of ‘Civil War’ in Iraq, and the point behind the Fox on-screen graphic ‘question’:
Don’t think for a second that this is an indication of that talking point ‘not flying’ so to speak; it’s not an example of a trial ballon that ‘popped’, so to speak; it, the ‘Civil War’ talking point, just didn’t fly so high or so straight is all (so to speak).
Not at the start anyway.
But it’ll be back, to serve it’s purpose; it’ll be flown and floated again, so to speak; it’s a necessary way for this administration to ‘honorably’ characterize the ‘Anarchy’ they have created in Iraq.
And that’s what it is, violent ‘Anarchy’; it’s not the ‘Civil War’ that this administration, and their stooges, would have the American People believe; a ‘Civil War’ for the People, and their Military, to take sides in; to fight in, on the side of the ‘Good Guy’…
…to further justify the continued presence of so many U.S. Troops in Iraq, long after they’ve discovered no WMD’s; long after the ‘Regime’ has been toppled; long after Sadaam has been captured; long after the Iraqi Elections of Dec. 15, 2005; and long after the ‘Anarchy’ that the administration created has consumed the ‘Democracy’ that is not there now,
and was never there before,
and will never be there ever.
It’ll be back, though; the talking point of ‘Civil War’ in Iraq; you can be sure of it…
…there’s no question (mark) about it.
March 1st, 2006 at 7:30 pmWhere do you come up with 1500 dead? No one, not the Iraqi officials, morques, hospitals, or even al-Sadr is close to that tally. Only the MSM has come anywhere near that number. I read this sites to help me keep perspective but, wow – where are you on this one?
March 1st, 2006 at 7:34 pmYou dumb liberals probably think…zzzzzzzzZZz.
March 1st, 2006 at 7:35 pmcalling Fox news journalism is the ULTIMATE in oxymoronic comments….and,if Rush was on LSD he would be credible!
March 1st, 2006 at 7:37 pmYou left off “CULTS”…
March 1st, 2006 at 7:37 pmIsn’t there a Victoria’s Secrets segment Cavuto should be studying up on? I’m surprised such a sexually repressed nimrod has time to even pay attention to Iraq.
March 1st, 2006 at 7:53 pmthings are getting much better in Iraq.
Only people in a cult would think otherwise.
Comment by Lib Basher — March 1, 2006 @ 5:47 pm
LOL
Holy crap thats gotta be the funniest thing I’ve heard all night.
March 1st, 2006 at 7:56 pmIf it wasn’t so sick and twisted
March 1st, 2006 at 7:56 pm2004
Total attacks: 26496
Improvised bombs: 5607
Car bombings: 420
Suicide car bombings: 133
Suicide bombers wearing explosive vests: 7
2005
Total attacks: 34131
Improvised bombs: 10593
Car bombings: 873
Suicide car bombings: 411
Suicide bombers wearing explosive vests: 67
Our president is right, democracy is on the march.
Comment by Lib Basher — March 1, 2006 @ 5:47 pm
Ok, I’m late to the game. I see Spudgeboy already saw this earlier but its weird.
Either he is really on our side using sarcasm, or he can’t add. The numbers have steadily climbed. According to his statistics, they doubled, tripled and even quadrupled.
March 1st, 2006 at 8:03 pm#49 – “Indian college students in Bangalore protest President Bush’s visit, his first to the country.”
March 1st, 2006 at 8:21 pmComment and pics by Sponge Man
*****Just goes to show that most college students worldWIDe aren’t worth $h*t – that is until they grow up, get a job, start a family and pay their taxes. Funny, when they start to engage in “real” life, they begin to see the world the way grown ups do.
No wonder Fox’s ratings are diving. Even the rubes can see that Iraq is on the fast track to civil war.
March 1st, 2006 at 8:23 pm“Blair wants Guantanamo shut down
http://english.aljazeera.net/ NR/ exeres/ 40FF11CB-B1E9-4CB8-A861-D84B866DF570.htm ”
Not strange since his approval rating is at 28%.
Bush’s Mysterious ‘New Programs’:
Detention centers
Labor camps
Pentagon surveillance
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/32647
US to extend military executions rules to Guantanamo Bay:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200601/s1554541.htm
“Previously executions could only take place at a military jail in Kansas but now death sentences can be carried out anywhere, including the Guantanamo Bay naval base in Cuba.”
Bush is becoming too powerful.
March 1st, 2006 at 8:31 pmIt appears that the Fox news reporters have sold their collective souls to Murdoch, and, thus, spout the Bush, neocon party line. There is no sense of journalistic integrity, never mind honest reporting.
March 1st, 2006 at 8:32 pmFrom the Department of Woefully Foregone Conclusions:
Mark my word they will blame it on the liberals soon. Seriously, Rush Windbag las already said that “the Liberals are trying to start a civil war in Iraqâ€. The man is on LSD.
Comment by Hardy Haberman — March 1, 2006 @ 4:15 pm
March 1st, 2006 at 9:44 pmThe right-wing talk show hosts are ALREADY blaming all these problems on the Democrats. I work on a military base and the stuff I hear would stun you. This is almost too rediculous to mention, but most of these right-wingers (especially in the military) still link almost everything back to “those damn queers”. They constantly call the media : ‘those liberal f*g journalists’ and then go off on Clinton and say Hillary is a lesbian. Our whole political scene has been ruined by the likes of huge gluttonous and sinful freaks like Rush Limbaugh. I fear we will never recover from this insanity.
March 1st, 2006 at 9:53 pmSoon Clinton started the war. Hillary is hold Americans hostage. Kerry is defense lawer. WHAT EVER!!!!!!!
March 1st, 2006 at 9:56 pmAnd Teflon is a suspected carcinogen — Bush is a cancer on America. Time to excise that tumor.
March 1st, 2006 at 10:24 pmThe Iraqi Government is claiming that that deat h toll is exaggerated by a factor of approximately ten.
If correct then yes, “made up by the media” is an accurate diagnosis.
Sorry if that’s getting a bit too factual.
March 1st, 2006 at 10:27 pmIf there is a downside to the First Amendment, it is Fox News..
March 1st, 2006 at 10:29 pmIt must have been that ultra-liberal Iyad Allawi who started all of this silly talk about civil war (The Sunday Times July 10, 2005 “Allawi: this is the start of civil war” http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1687910,00.html )
March 1st, 2006 at 10:34 pmFascists.
March 1st, 2006 at 10:39 pmMaybe you intellectual wizards can explain why Fox News wins in the ratings, also when the GOP wins the Whitehouse again the Democratic Party will get the hint.
March 1st, 2006 at 10:41 pmThat there is some propamaganda on a whole ‘nother level. Shee-it.
March 1st, 2006 at 10:48 pm160 yum kool aid good!
March 1st, 2006 at 11:06 pmAre we absolutely positive Lee Atwater is dead? These are the most vicious hooligans walking upright today! Who makes this crap up?
March 1st, 2006 at 11:14 pmDo you think it is a coincidence that the author of this post found the largest estimate of deaths in Iraq to link to?
March 1st, 2006 at 11:23 pmFox News should send Hannity and Hume to the front lines of Bhagdad for the next few months. That’ll show us just how fabricated the liberal medias “civil war” is.
March 1st, 2006 at 11:39 pm[...] Like just about anyone who follows politics and doesn’t get their news from a propaganda network, I realize that I shouldn’t put anything past this current administration. They’ve lied so many times in the past and I have a feeling that they’re just going to keep on pushing the lies until finally people wake up and realize that they’ve had enough. [...]
March 1st, 2006 at 11:48 pmBEFORE: “Might an all-out civil war in Iraq be a good thing?”
AFTER: “Civil war in Iraq: Made up by the media?”
In the “before,” they acknowledge the possibility — if not the existence — of civil war in Iraq. Later, they say “What civil war?” Are the Bush parrots at Faux on drugs?
If I say “Your sister’s a slut” one day, and then say “I bet you’re lying that you have a sister” the next, what sense does that make?
March 2nd, 2006 at 12:15 amNow that there is full on Civil War in Iraq, isn’t it time to bring our boys and girls home to their families?
Why is it so important for us to be there? This smells of a “police action” and all of us old enough to know, know exactly what that means for military men and women over there….many sent, few return and NOTHING to show for it…we don’t even give our dead soldiers the respect they deserve when we DO bring them home….
I am glad my father who was not only a soldier, but a proud American, is not alive to see the constant concern over lands so far away while people suffer injustices and lack of aid in this country. I suppose if there was oil under the city of New Orleans, they would be receiving a lot more assistance than they have so far.
Are we protecting ourselves (the United States) from an unknown evil in Iraq, or are we being political whores to the black gold that runs beneath their country…
I’m not ashamed to be an American, I am proud, but I don’t have to agree with political misjudgments that affect those near and dear to us. One Vietnam every 1000 years is enough.
March 2nd, 2006 at 12:32 amActually, for once, I believe it.
I believe Iraqi journalists FAR more than western “journalists” anyday too:
“The horrific attack which destroyed much of the Golden Mosque generated sectarian outrage which led to attacks on over 50 Sunni mosques. Many Sunni mosques in Baghdad were shot, burnt, or taken over. Three Imams were killed, along with scores of others in widespread violence.
This is what was shown by western corporate media.
As quickly as these horrible events began, they were called to an end and replaced by acts of solidarity between Sunni and Shia across Iraq.
This, however, was not shown by western corporate media.”
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives/dispatches/000365.php
People, our “media” (read: “propaganda”) has been playing us for fools for some time now, and the mother of all propaganda began with ignoring the overwhelming evidence that shows the US government was behind 9/11…and it works so well, even you alleged “progressives” won’t even research it for yourselves.
http://www.st911.org
March 2nd, 2006 at 12:43 amHurricane Katrina: Made up by the media?
March 2nd, 2006 at 12:44 amFox News is the same as Pravada in the old Soviet Union.
This needs to be repeated over and over until you can’t sat one without thinking of the other.
March 2nd, 2006 at 12:48 amDo any of you so-called progressives get your news from Arabic news sources? Al Jazeera perhaps?
No? Any idea what the rest of the world is saying about an Iraqi civil war?
Perhaps the Iraqis are smarter than you think and they refuse to take the bait that the UK and the USA sabateurs are working so had at destroying.
For anyone who BOTHERS to check, 9/11 could only have been done with massive demolition charges, and their massive fvckups in the operation could only have been covered up by the boot-licking western media.
Stop believing the BS, even Air America perpetuates the lies.
http://www.st911.org
March 2nd, 2006 at 12:58 amIt is obvious that a Civil War exists now in Iraq, but FOX news says otherwise so we are supposed to go back to sleep, and believe every LIE told to us as fact > lol.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:00 am173 – It’s only obvious if you only watch western media.
Not just FOX is capable of propaganda.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:08 amGod.
Americans are such lemmings, so easily led astray by the red herrings of partisanship.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:10 amEvery American should know by now that FOX NEWS is not a news channel, it’s a opinion channel. They report the stories the way they want you to see them. Give me the facts buttheads, not your fricken opinion. I can think for myself.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:29 am177 – Just the same as every other “news” channel. None are real that don’t address the facts…and the facts about 9/11 begat this entire mess, so lets cut the BS and expose the fact that 9/11 was caused by our own government.
There are some very serious people putting their lives on the line trying to do just that, they deserve everyone’s attention.
The Scholars for 9/11 Truth. http://www.st911.org
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:46 amI don’t see how Bush can sleep at night causing this much destruction in the world. Tens of thousands dead, hundred thousand injured, homeless, children orphaned, families destroyed and there’s the US Gulog’s in foreign countries. The list can go on and on. I hope someone or something will stop this madman.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:53 amIf a civil war really breaks out in Iraq that is a GOOD thing! Isn’t that what we as liberals have been secretly hoping for all along?? I may not as Rush says be to blame for it, but I’m sure not going to do anything to stop it either. I am for anything that is bad for Bushler and his neo-con tribe! Every incident like this brings us closer to the inevitable impeachment!
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:14 amI am for anything that is bad for Bushler and his neo-con tribe!
Comment by BlueStateLib — March 2, 2006 @ 5:14 am
I for one would not revel in joy as the mass of people in Iraq live through the hell that a civil war surely would become. Even if it might make someone I have political disagreements with appear in a bad light, if the Iraqi people must suffer because we can not as Americans solve our political differences we no longer deserve the blessings we have and deny to most of the world….
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:10 am#180- Nice try, Troll.
March 2nd, 2006 at 8:18 amDaddy Bush said it best….too bad his son can’t read..
“Incalculable human and political costs” would have been the result, the senior Bush has said, if his administration had pushed all the way to Baghdad and sought to overthrow Saddam Hussein after the U.S.-led coalition ousted the Iraqi army from Kuwait during the Persian Gulf war in 1991.
“We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect rule Iraq,” Bush wrote. “The coalition would have instantly collapsed. … Going in and thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations mandate would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish.
“Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different – and perhaps barren – outcome.”
The senior Bush’s thoughts are outlined in “A World Transformed,” 1998
-GEORGE HW BUSH
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:07 amRush Windbag las already said that “the Liberals are trying to start a civil war in Iraqâ€. The man is on LSD.
Comment by Hardy Haberman
Yes, but he started taking it as a painkiller, so it’s alright.
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:09 amWhat cracks me up is FOX slinging mud at “the media”. As if they were, what??? But the worst thing is that so many sheeple buy that kind of nonsensical talk.
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:19 amThe whole thing would be easier to take if we could only pass legislation requiring Fox to put quotation marks around the word “News.” That has to be one of the first priorities of a Democratic Congress. Somebody please make a note of that, in case the Democratic Congress doesn’t happen in my lifetime. How many ways can the oldest political party in the world find to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:20 amIf there really were Islamic Terrorists they would drive a truck bomb up to the glass house of Fox News NY LIVE. There is no daily threat from Islamic Terrorists. Have you ever seen a terrorist? It seems pretty easy to frame terrorists. You just wrap a towel around your zionist hoodlum head, and blame those evil arabs for this attack or that attack. I think we might be in the final hours of the Bush Presidency. Imagine how support for the territorial pissings in Iraq will soar in memory of our freedumb fighter. Cheney/Rice? I don’t understand how any thinking patriotic American could still be a Democrat or Republican?
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:50 amFOX is to news as wrestling is to sports.
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:55 amCivil war is unavoidable in Iraq as it is unavoidable in this country,we are now so divided, that we are heading in that direction.
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:06 amA house divided will fall.
More Insightful Analysis of Iraq Courtesy of Fox News…
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March 2nd, 2006 at 10:19 amtell this guy burying his little girl that the civil war is fiction:
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:26 amAh, the Bush years. Life as a Hopper landscape.
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:26 am[...] Think Progress » Fox News: Iraq Civil War “Made Up By The Media?†Fox News: Iraq Civil War “Made Up By The Media?†Fox News continues its crackerjack analysis of sectarian strife in Iraq. Previously, it explored whether “an all-out civil war in Iraq†could be “a good thing.†[...]
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:30 amRegarding the great Fox ratings, please keep them in perspective.
It’s a CABLE channel, with max viewers at three million. By contrast, the three conventional network nightly newscasts draw a combined 24 million. That’s where the real influence is.
Fox is a fringe player,unnoticed by 297 million Americans and not to be accorded influence it doesn’t have or will ever. What it can count on though is its unvarying base of lobbyists, hick preachers, Kansas soybean farmers, hard core doodlers and two dozen dentists.
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:38 am[...] Finally, in strange twist, Fox agrees the civil war may be imaginary: of course, it’s the liberal media that’s at fault. Explore posts in the same categories: J School, Color Commentary [...]
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:46 amYour comment on the number of Iraqui deaths should be clarified to read “since last Wednesday” or “recently”. It is confusing otherwise and easily miscontrued.
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:57 amI think that the “journalists” who are responsible for reporting these lies and propping up our march towards fascism should someday be held accountable. Perhaps then they would balance the advancement of their careers with the truth. Just what you would do with them, I have no idea. Maybe Neil Cavuto could help dig graves in Iraq or something.
March 2nd, 2006 at 11:26 amanybody else out there that cant stand tobin smith?? a most vile creature. if he represents wealth and financial acumen, I’m taking vow of poverty!
March 2nd, 2006 at 11:44 am#22: I am 72 years old,sir, and strongly resent your insinuation that all old folks are mentally-weakened to the point of inanity. I do not watch cable news, and don’t trust the networks, either, except at the local level.
Further, I would suggest that it is the younger crowd that suffers mental instability by watching FOX and its clones far too much – in part due to the lack of a proper education in Civics and American History.
March 2nd, 2006 at 12:00 pm‘Truthiness strikes again. Fox News is an embarrassment to journalism.’
FAUX News, good sir, is propaganda NOT journalism.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:08 pmHere is what this whole mess is about – great video!
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:24 pm
http://www.starcarlton.com/Flash/FuzzyMath.htm
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:25 pm`
~FAUX NEWS~
what more can i say
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:33 pm#54,also known as i-r-i i believe has stopped using his name at the end of his comment.Why?Are you embarassed to be on the wrong side of the fence?And yes we know how ruthless al-quada is,thats why we’re all wondering why Bush is giving control of our shipping ports to one of his biggest supporters,maybe you know why,if so i’d like to hear your rant on that one i-r-i in disguise.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:45 pmI heard Clinton is over there stirring up trouble.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:52 pmEnough already. What we really need to start thinking about is how to cost these bastards money. If being seen as a propaganda outlet impacts Murdoch’s bottom line enough, the old pile of filth will back off.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:55 pmEurasia is our enemy. Eurasia has always been our enemy.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:35 pmI read with my usual amount of cynicism all the comments about a “civil war” in Iraq. If such a thing were to take place, it would not be a “civil war”. It will be the equivalent of the 30 years war between Catholics and Protestants. It would engulf multiple countries, particularly Syria on the Sunni side and Iran on the Shia side.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:41 pmIt would consume the Arab/Moslen people in the region for the next fifteen years.
That would be a dream come true for Israel and the United States.
Have we forgotten the Iran Iraq war? A repeat of that implosion in the Moslem world has to be an objective of
ruthless planners, or we still believe that the objective
was democracy?
JD
“Civil War”- The ULTIMATE oxymoron.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:09 pmI agree with PUNCHY…let’s get Geraldo back out there so we can get some “real” reporting on how successful the Americanization of Iraq and the rest of the middleeast is going. Religious arrogance got us into this war and religious arrogance is going to prove that there can be no peace between extremists and fanatics.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:49 pmThe Media made up the Civil War in Iraq? Well, okay. But who in the media?
Is there a Bizarro Ann Coulter? If there is, my money would be on her being the culprit.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:59 pmHow can you have a civil war if you don’t even have a sovereign nation?
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:25 pmThe only way this seed of thought could be planted in a intelligent mind is through the gapping hole left by a bullet.
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:51 pmIt’s obvious, is it not? The Fox network, owned and supported by the very people who created the war in Iraq, must somehow manufacture consent that the war is “ok”. This war, like so many others, enriches their coffers. As the “ruling elite”, they use the “lower classes” to fund and fight their blood-soaked battles. It would be inconceivable for a murderous psycopath to one day say, “Hey, wait a minute, what I’ve been doing is wrong, abhorrent and callous. My actions have exacted far too much pain and suffering that I would like to ask my fellow killers to stop their cruelty, lay down their weapons of torture and make amennds”. Gee, imagine Fox knews saying that!
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:26 pm#204, I think I recognize i-r-i in hiding from the Nation’s blogs. Same over-the-top hysteria, poor spelling, schizophrenic reasoning, and bush boot-licking. I know those qualities aren’t that unique in a troll, but the things that gives it away are the constant name changing, and preference for going anonymous when he/she/it knows damn well they don’t have a leg to stand on. Now that I think of it, I kinda like their “ignore” feature, which spares me the rantings, that is until the next name change.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:38 pm#54 is obviously one of the 30%’ers (or is it 20 today). Another one of Bushes’ base that can name the Simpsons but not one of our First Ammendment rights.
March 2nd, 2006 at 8:00 pmFox News: Iraq Civil War “Made Up By The Media”, Ha, Ha, Ha, yea, the media made up the weapons of mass distraction and lied this country into a premtive war with a U.S.made Dictator that was locked up in a stinking gravel pit too.
George Dim Bulb Bush had nothing to do with any of that nastyness, we all know that, Jesus, can’t “Eddie Munster / Neal Cavuato” do better that that, man, what an ass !
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:30 pmI was just wondering because I am only fourteen and in school we have a debate team. We always need to be able to back up our arguments with facts and I was just wondering where do you get all this stuff?
Because if I had a ‘reliable and credible’ sources (that’s what Mrs. Reichter says) I could like make a notecard and use this stuff.
But I need facts to do it so can you tell me?
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:42 pmThe media will do all it can to fan the flames of a “civil war” to make Bush look bad. Made up? Probably not, but jumping the gun, oh you betcha!
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:25 pm#218 lUCAS
Here are a couple of helpful sites.
Just copy and paste them into your browser
http://factcheck.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
There is truth in all that we perceive…linus
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:50 pmDO AND THINK THE OPPISITE OF WHAT FOX NEWS SAYS, THESE GUYS REALLY THINK WE ARE A BUNCH OF MORONS!!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2006 at 11:15 pm*OPPOSITE*
March 2nd, 2006 at 11:16 pmThe media is ANTICIPATING the POSSIBILITY of a CIVIL WAR.
March 2nd, 2006 at 11:26 pmSomething like ANTICIPATING the BREACH of the LEVEES.
In both cases to do anything less is to display a startling lack of grey matter– quite common in the reptillian-brain tyoes over at Fox.
Just think for a moment here, most of the things you know about this so called ‘civil war’ came from the mass media. –
So Fox might be right, however they along with their other mass media colleagues will spin it in a different way that would make one to arrive to a different conclusion or even rejected the slighest possibility that it was made up by the mass media. –
So if you rejected the idea that the whole civil war thing was just made up by the mass media, Fox has already reached their goal. Reverse psychology.
March 3rd, 2006 at 12:21 amFox simply testing if you guys bought the civil war story story that sunnis bombed the golden dome, (when it was UDF/US), read it on rense.com. If you watch fox you are already brainwashed.. And.. the masked militia doing the killing, neither Sunni nor Shia. Guess 99% of the readers/writers here have fallen for the so called ‘civil war’, as this fox test has shown. The arab news differs.
March 3rd, 2006 at 1:59 amWhat’s made up is the war on terror. As the inattention to port security demonstrates, the war on terror is simply a Rovian phrase used by Bush and Cheney to bash Democrats and anyone else who disagrees with their attempt to create an imperial presidency, which could be the first step toward restoring a devine Christian right monarchy.
March 3rd, 2006 at 9:57 amFAUX NEWS>>>THE MOON IS MADE OF GREEN CHEESE!
March 3rd, 2006 at 4:34 pmWHAT HAPPENED?
WELL COULD THIS “NEWS” BE ON FAUX BECAUSE KATHERINE HARRIS & “DUKE” CUNNINGHAM ARE ABOUT TO SWING FOR TAKING BRIBES & BEING INVOLVED IN FRAUD?
Just another shell game.
Smoke & mirrors.
Republican rats caught taking the cheese, so; drop the “news” that a civil war in Iraq is made up.
ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 78 WOULD SEE THIS FOR WHAT IT IS. A DISTRACTION FROM THE REAL NEWS. TURN TO FAUX NEWS FOR YOUR DAILY DOSE OF LIES & A GOOD FAIRY TALE.
Everyone who has’nt should read Rep. Ron Pauls(R) speech delivered on the house floor 7/10/2003. The speech is titled “NEO-conned” and can be read on his .gov website. This is a most poinant “WARNING” to America. This coming from a “true” conservative republican.
Be sure to read the 17 professed tenets of “Evil Inc”. Be sure and don’t miss the part about “creative destruction…at home and abroad”(Hello- 911?)
Nor the bit about it being necessary for a strong leader to “do evil”.
If this does’nt put you in ontological shock nothing will.
Time to forget the divisive left/right, liberal/conservative
March 3rd, 2006 at 8:52 pmMachiavellian(sp?) bull sht. and take the Federation back!
I don’t know what you guys hate more, that fox calls out the antique media on their liberal bias, or that fox has almost 3 times as many viewers as any other news outlet?
March 3rd, 2006 at 10:29 pmThe media is controlled by Republicans. All of these news companies act as unpaid PR firms for the Republican party.
March 4th, 2006 at 12:47 amFor my friend up in #82 Anthony
Social Secuity- Most succesful government plan ever? I guess you don’t read the papers, but thats ok
Civil rights legislation – The 1964 Civil Rights Act was an update of Republican Senator Charles Sumner’s 1875 Civil Rights Act
seatbelts & airbags – Congress passed the airbag law in 1998, as if every car in the usa didn’t already have it
public broadcasting – Yeah, thats something we americans can’t live without
Freedom of Information Act – Your naive if you think thats means the government tells us everything now
environmental laws – GO Hug a tree
Americans with Disabilities Act – One thing Dems did right
workplace safety laws, food safety laws, food labeling laws – All these do is impede on capitalism, and find more ways for politicans to tax business
low-income housing – And those have turned out so well! They people who live their treat it with so much respect what i good place for tax dollars to go!
Democrats gave us the Tennessee Valley Project – Smokey the bear says your moron
Peace Corps – Just something for liberals to do after college before they start teaching or work as a enviormental lawyer
Longest period of economic expansion in history (under Bill Clinton) – Sure it wasn’t “Irrational Exuberance” and studies have shown a presidents economic impact isn’t shown till years after they leave office.
lowest infant mortality rate in history. (It’s going up now, of course) Abortions don’t count??
Consumer protection laws – Why is there a law?? Consumer has protection iots called don’t buy the defective product!!
Democrats gave us improved air quality – That shows in the left coast espically in LA, i love breathing in the air their
Democrats gave us the internet Al Gore also said that love story(the movie) was about him and his wife, so you can add that to the list of accomplishments to!
Center for Disease Control & Prevention – Isn’t that the place you call when some retards swallows a bottle of draino becasue they could read the label that said don’t drink. Only question how does someone who can’t read a label dial a phone??
Affirmative Action – Your right most people favour it becasue AA keeps minorities down it sends the message you can’t earn it by yourself so we will help you, and contrary to popular belief most people like to keep other people down.
Space exploration – Not lately, once again paper your got to read them
Family & Medical Leave Act – Oh how great, makre sure those independent woman get their governement mandated jobs back
Consumer Product Safety Commission – Once again don’t buy the product!
cleaned up the Great Lakes – Congratulations, while the republicans were working the liberals were using the tax dollars to pay god knows how many hippies to wade around in the water picking up trash. Good save!
protect endangered species As george carlin says – “99.9% of all species that every lived are extinct, we didn’t kill them all!” Its called nature, just let them go.
Democrats got a ban on CFC’s, DDT, PCB’s, & leaded gasoline – that was close. Unleaded has just cleaned up our enviroment so well I forget we even use gas anymore.
public schooling – HA and thats working out so well. Where did clinton send his daughter again??? (hint private school – Sidwell Friends)
National Weather Service – Worked so well in New Orleans
truth-in-advertising laws – once again if you got screwed don’t go back to the store, basic economics here people, jeez were did you guys learn your economics? public school?
Democrats gave us the Morrill Land Grant Act – Once again we need universities liberals need somewhere to bitch about their former classmartes success in the real world.
Public universities – Republicans don’t mind public universities, I mean where else would 50 years old hippies go to avoid the real wolrd. Those who can, do! Those who can’t, teach. SO true on so many levels.
Promote & fund scientific research – Yeah bush doesn’t give any money, not one cent. Right?
Democrats gave us guaranteed bank deposit – congrats
helped women get the vote – Oh yeah the dems were solely responsible for that. Whatever helps you sleep
Child-labor laws – kids shouldn’t be working they should be at home watching tv with welfare recipent parents. Someone needs to be home to the food stamps from the mail box.
Democrats got us Meals on Wheels – Hillary’s platform in 2008, I smell a winner.
Democrats promote scientific & technological research – Technology, that sounds a lot like electronics which is big business. ooohhhhh scary stop development and the making of cheaper and better products thats the democrat way.
Democrats promote student financial aid – keeping kids in debt since 1970.
Democrats promote child immunizations (which reached record levels under the Clinton Administration) – Wow what a platform, the dems should run on that in 2008
Democrats make the poverty rate go down (Check it out: the New Deal reduced America’s poverty rate from over 50% to less than 20%) – Yeah while FDR was in office highest poverty ever(you dems never say that, u just say he fixed it, never admit he was in offcie almost 7 years before it fixed itself). Then that thing called WWI came around and boom we had jobs. The new deal = whenever the economy is in the toilet start a war, deal!
lower the crime rate – Legalizing abortion will do that. So democrats 1 for you!
Democrats fought discrimination – Your right I forgot a democrat does have the most diverese cabinet. Oh wait no thats bush my bad. But good argument.
Develop alternative energy sources – Really, hows that working out?
Democrats control immigration (better than Republicans; Bill Clinton exported more illegals than any President ever) – Maybe that just means more got in, makes sense. If you catch 10% and send them back. If 500 get in that means you send 50 back. If 1000 get in you send 100 back. So it appears you sent more back when in reality more got in. You need percenatges to prove this point.
Democrats improve the educational system
protect you from malignant corporations – Yes all the EVIL scary corpirations giving us products we like and can use to better are own lives, oohhhh scary.
The GNP grows more under Democrats (thought you might like to know)- Stats please
lowered the teen birth rate – Once again abortion helps with that too, and it helps that Clinton was wearing a condom back then!
deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union – Clinton yeah he was the guy that took down the USSR, oh wait no that Reagan, damnit again I was wrong.
highest home ownership rate in American history – Clinton did do this, but look at that rate now that all those dot com babies went bely up. Most of those houses now belong to the bank
converted the largest budget deficit in American history into the largest surplus (which GWB has incredibly turned back into the biggest deficit AGAIN!) – Its called a war buddy, it costs money. sorry about raising a deficit that your tree hugging money won’t ever dent and protecting you.
Smaller government (That’s right! The Federal government grows much less under Democrats) – HAHAHA sorry buddy I’m gonna need some facts to back up that claim.
Democrats gave us the most exports ever (under Clinton) – Its called the internet boom
Democrats can get the FDA working again (do not take any drugs approved under this administration; it’s that bad) – Once again stop these EVIL medicine companies trying to help our sick people. How dare you try and make a medicine that works, not under the democrats watch you won’t!
Democrats would represent most people (most people want the liberal things–environmentalism, gun control, international cooperation, less torture; Republicans, by contrast, want things that most Americans hate) – Ok 51% voted for bush hence more then half = majority=most people don’t think that. Nice try though, almost got one by me.
Democrats can fix this gross income-inequality thing (income equality correlates significantly with mortality rates, crime, poor educational outcomes, substance abuse, etc.) – Damn right, how dare someone make more then someone else. who do you think you are working harder and making more money your just selfish. you need to share that hard earned money with people who may not work, but they want it and thats all that counts.
Democrats are not so into crackpot science & crackpot stats (science backs up the Democrats; junk science backs up the Right) – Once again kinda need some facts with points like that.
Democrats will give us a health-care system (think about it; the lifespans of Canadians are now 2 years more than ours–because of their healthcare system) – Yeah but those 2 years of life are becasue they are the blanket of protection we provide. Maybe if stop protecting them all that healthcre money would have to go to a military that can actually defend itself.
The African-American poverty rates dropped to their lowest levels EVER under the last Democratic administration – Abortion, less poor mothers having babies less children to grow up in poverty
The poverty rate for single mothers reached its lowest level EVER under Clinton. – Abortion strikes again, less women having babies less singles mothers Not hard math to figure out.
PS if you guys think the media is conservative. You need to layoff drugs its making u parnoid. The new media is conservative, but TV is still crawling with liberals
March 4th, 2006 at 2:03 amAnyone that watches FauxNews is an idiot anyway. Let me have their GOP talking points. They will soon be buried.
March 4th, 2006 at 1:11 pmFOX acronym for Fascist Operations Xtroadinaire
March 5th, 2006 at 12:53 am[...] Perhaps Pace also thinks the civil war is actually a good thing, or possibly just a creation of the media. [...]
March 5th, 2006 at 11:15 am[...] Via Think Progress: [...]
March 6th, 2006 at 8:48 pmOur gov’t will be a completely broken, corporate pocket-stuffing system until the majority of Americans wake up and pay attention.(not likely) The fact the Tom DeLay is breezing through the GOP primaries in Texas is evidence of peoples lack of . The majority of Americans don’t give a rip about doing what is best for the country – they focus on isolated issues, ie. gay-marriage, abortion, stem-cell research that have absolutely no bearing on the long-term preservation of our way of life. How about the horrible financial condition our country is in? Congressmen should get paid last – if there is nothing left – they don’t get paid. How about getting our economy to a much more stable position by having alternative sources of energy available? How about taking care of our country – instead of others. I’ll bet New Orleans would be a much better place today if they got an equivalent level of funding from the government that Iraq is receiving. Who do you care more about – Iraqis or Americans? Our government’s answer is “Iraqis.”
March 9th, 2006 at 2:20 pmThe U.S. media has neatly fallen into the “bad guys” public relations trap. For three years it has searched for a “hot button” to trigger anti administration support and failed…..but now….due to constant repetition by the media has found one: civil war. And instead of the media questioning the “bad guys” mis use of the American Freedom to exploit this hot button…..it has blithely gone along with to foment discontent here.
Why is the American media letting the bad guys exploint it so unquenstioninly? Which leads to the next question.
Lost in all of this is the fact of certain Iraqui causalties. They get very little press. I am speaking of thousands of young Iraqui men who daily volunteer to join the Iraqui army and police……knowing full well that this brave act may get them killed. Yet they keep signing up. Why? And why does our media not address their courage.
They want their country back. They want to practice their religion. They want to receive our training to peacefully exercise their sovergnity. They would only do so, and risk their lives, if we were doing something right….or else they would help the bad guys.
As Oliver North would say on his TV show: “Their’s is a war story worth telling”. Our media should talk about them….not foment and encourse the “civil war” mantra.
March 10th, 2006 at 5:59 pm[...] I gave up watching Fox News long ago. I used to only watch Fox so I would be watching what most Americans watched. After a while I just couldn’t stomach it any more. This is pretty much exactly why I stopped watching. Via ThinkProgress: [...]
March 11th, 2006 at 11:36 amFOX news and Hitler supporting holdovers promote the same type of propaganda. They both have the same agenda: To end opposition to the orders they wish to place upon open-minded, educated, and free-thinking women and men who want planet Earth to be a better place.
March 11th, 2006 at 12:15 pmI think we should ask the men and women who are in Iraq and the soldiers who have served there to what is the real story. The media fox or otherwise will put the spin on it that will get ratings or sell papers. We need the truth from those who have experienced it first hand. I have talked to 3 people who have served in Iraq and they say it is bad but not as bad as seen on tv. Murder has been going on in that country for a long time and no one cared not liberal or conservative. I have deep sympathy for the people in Iraq and especially for our service members. Please do not spew political nonsense if you are a conservative or liberal. We all demean what our troops are doing over there by trying to prove our side is right and the other side is wrong. We all need truth not opinions
Robert South
March 26th, 2006 at 12:43 pmGrain Valley, MO
hi my name is geoff!!!
March 31st, 2006 at 9:19 amWell the results are in and FOX NEWS was right. You may have to deal with the sad fact that Iraq is on the road to democracy and prosperity. We’re not out of the woods, we can still go back to “Uday with a Nuke” that the liberals promised us (because that’s “peace”).
As for bias in the media (clue: it didn’t start with FOX NEWS) ask yourself this. What was the news value of Abu Ghraib? Why was it played 24/7 for months? This was a few “rent a soldiers” that got out of control and were caught by the military. Nope, no libera bias there.
April 30th, 2006 at 10:46 amHi My name is Kristy
May 8th, 2006 at 3:33 pmyup the Fox news was right.
I agress w/ u
Hi My name is Kristy
May 8th, 2006 at 3:33 pmyup the Fox news was right.
I agress w/ u
that’s gd
Agreed that the commercial news media, FOX maybe leading the way here, has clearly become a dog and pony show. I understand why Ted Turner regrets selling CNN. Look what has happened: it doesn’t get any close to “state-runned” programming than this.
September 3rd, 2006 at 3:22 amidk just found this thread and its been 7 months since randall made his comment about how good Iraq is doing and will be doing.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:15 amstill think that now?
there is a civil war and our troops are dieing in the crossfire.
plain as that.