Careless In Crawford: Catastrophes Gather While Bush Vacations
Careless In Crawford: Catastrophes Gather While Bush Vacations
A recently-released videotape shows Bush failed to respond to urgent warnings about Hurricane Katrina. The Washington Post describes the scene: “Bush was dialed into the conference Sunday at noon Eastern time from a meeting room at his ranch in Crawford.“
Though President Bush has famously spent a great deal of his presidency vacationing at his ranch in Crawford, the White House has always maintained that he is not distracted when he is down there.
MCCLELLAN: I don’t think the president of the United States ever gets a break. … I mean, it’s always been an opportunity for him to go home and spend some time at home. But it’s also a time when he continues to focus on the important priorities of the American people, when he continues to focus on fulfilling his responsibilities. [Press Briefing, 8/1/03]
Bush was warned about two of the most important, and catastrophic, events in his presidency — 9/11 and Katrina — while he vacationed in Crawford. And a comparison of the two events shows a disturbingly familiar pattern of Bush being distracted from his duty to protect the American people.
Bush Is Warned
9/11: “Bush told of threat before September 11″
KATRINA: “Video Shows Bush Being Warned on Katrina”
Bush Fails To Respond
9/11: “[T]he president had received an intelligence briefing — the contents of which were declassified by the White House Saturday night — warning ‘Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US.’ But Bush seemed carefree as he spoke about the books he was reading, the work he was doing on his nearby ranch, his love of hot-weather jogging, his golf game and his 55th birthday.”
KATRINA: “Bush did not ask a single question during the final briefing before Katrina struck on Aug. 29, but he assured state officials: ‘We are fully prepared.’”
After Catastrophe Occurs, White House Covers Up What It Knew
9/11: “I don’t think anybody could have predicted that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile,” said national security adviser Condoleeza Rice on May 16, 2002.
KATRINA: “I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.”
Truth Is Revealed
9/11: “Bin Laden Determined To Strike in U.S.”
KATRINA: “Video Contradicts Bush Katrina Statements”
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They don’t call him “the disaster monkey” for nuttin’.
What a miserable failure. Too bad he’s taking the whole country into a crash landing along with him.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:15 pmSo what?
Bush was also informed that the blue tubes story was a lie.
Didn’t change a damned thing.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:23 pm.
I don’t find it strange that Bush has purposely stayed away from his cowless “ranch” in Crawford, what with his crappy ratings going down the toilet.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but everytime he goes to Texas either we have a disaster: 9-11, a devistating hurricane, or such. I mean, next time he goes to down to Texas, I think I’ll go on vacation out of the country—just to be on the safe side.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:26 pmHey FAIZ,
Thanks for BANNING ME AND DELETING MY POSTS LAST NIGHT.
That was REAL PROGRESSIVE.
My compliments to you and Judd. Biggest favor anyone ever did for me. You gave me my life back. I spent enought time in here.
Now you can delete this one too.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:27 pmCaption Contest: “Now imagine I have a cymbal in each hand and when I clap like this… what do I look like?”
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:28 pmCaption Contest: “New Orleans dodged a bullet. Freedom is on the march. Now watch this clapping monkey impression.”
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:31 pmCaption Contest: “See Rice behind me, she is a he, I’m talking elephant trunk!”
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:36 pmCaption Contest:
“Who woulda thought I would end up being president.”
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:37 pmCaption Contest: “Mah hemorrhoids are this big, Condi puts the salve of ‘em. Heh heh.”
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:38 pm[on] ‘em. Geez.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:39 pmCaption Contest: “I specifically asked for a podium this big. I’m not talking to anyone until I get my podium. Bring me my podium now or I’ll tell my mom!â€
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:44 pmFaiz et al would only be impressed if GWB grabbed those planes out of the sky on 9/11. Of course, choosing not to use his superhero hands of steel is what designates him a schmuck. To add insult to injury he refused to calm the winds and seas BEFORE Katrina hit. And d*mn*t, Mayor Ray was willing to strand elderly citizens and abandon the stupid - GWB should have commandeered those acres of school buses…..
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:52 pmI believe the news reports are stating that he did not participate in the next day’s briefing. Yah, wonder if he was too busy cutting brush, driving his truck, or getting wasted?
When he’s down there in Crawford the point *is* to get away from dealing with the full affairs of state. It’s a vactation.
He also took a lovely vacation prior to 9/11…
Oh, ‘why Bush would really rather not be in the meeting room’. It’s not a ‘meeting room’. It’s a secure, windowless room. that means no outside sounds and no natural light. Would you want to sit in a cell like room during your vacation? Granted, I’m sure it’s a rather nice cell with loads of goodies.
AP sat on the video, so I wouldn’t say they ‘caught him a lie’ like the header says - they disclosed the lie that they had caught six months earlier.
This is similar to the warrantless spying when the times sat on it for a year - part of which was during a presidential election.
It’s all about access - the media is frightened of losing their pathetic ‘interviews’ with the ‘key’ politicians. They don’t want to be shut out. So they do censor themselves and quite effectively.
This is a shared pool feed, right? Or was it just the AP? Either way, it’s pathetic.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:53 pmThey couldn’t predict:
Katrina Flooding,
Airplanes used as Missles,
the Size of the Insurgeny.
So why are they at the controls?
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:53 pmHave they no shame?
I wouldn’t expect Incurious George to ask any questions…
Caption contest: The president is shown here demonstrating his technique of kissing big, fat corporate asses.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:55 pmYou need to relax, WORFEUS. We appreciate your input but rest assured it’s not crucial.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:55 pm“We have to address the fact that the president has broken the law.†— Senator Russ Feingold
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:56 pmMighty Aphrodite, just how far will you bend over to keep kissing Bush’s @ss? I mean, you guys cranked up the noise machine non-stop for years because of Clinton’s BJ (wow, that was certainly a threat to this nation!) but Bush craps out catastrophe after catastrophe and you continue to cover for his miserable failures.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:56 pmThen that would be a lie. The Associate Press’ video is from August 25 through August 31.
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:57 pm#12 - Bush didn’t ask a single question during the final government-wide briefing the day before Katrina struck on Aug. 29 but assured soon-to-be-battered state officials: “We are fully prepared.”
Looks to me like Pres. Bush only uses his super-powers to not ask questions about how un-prepared his resources are, and to side-step responsibility after his response is proven to be such a failure. Wow! If only Pres. Clinton had known how easy it is to pull the wool over the eyes of the “partisan brain” Republicans and you never would have been interested in impeaching him for having sex!
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:57 pmmighty aphrodite,
Does it not bother you that Bush uses Israeli flags and gay porn to torture Muslims? Don’t you find it inflammatory and potentially dangerous to Israel?
March 2nd, 2006 at 2:59 pm#12
Bush controls resources far greater than the mayor of New Orleans. Said mayor does not have dedicated teams of meterologists who also are experts with regard to levees/dams/sea walls/piers/etc since they aren’t your ‘9 at 5′ weather guys. FEMA is supposed to advise the localities of what they are going to face. If something went out from that weather forecaster (who should be ashamed in that he did not publicly disclose their predictions on the levees) many more people would have evacuated regardless of what the feds or the state or the city did. People don’t like the idea of a flood.
The federal government has the most blame because it has the most resources. Next comes the state and then the mayor. It’s an information issue and that information is the feds job.
FEMA is, I believe, sort of a problem in that people have relied on it, because it has been effective in the past, which gives the state a reason to axe funding for their own disaster agencies. Why duplicate what the feds are already doing for you? (control, collection technical info, etc). FEMA is not effective because it is not a cabinet level agency anymore and it is stuck under Chertoff who has many many other things to worry about than some stupid hurricane.
I think Brownie came out looking a little better. He’s not an idiot like it was portrayed and he had a grasp of the issues. He wasn’t effective, but at least he wasn’t playing with his CrackBerry the whole time. Chertoff looks even worse, since he would have been the one to approve additional DHS resources, and Bush comes out as looking uninterested and desperate to get back to clearing brush.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:02 pmGW Bush, is going to be known, as the worst president in American history.
No Government building should EVER be named after him.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:02 pmSpudge,
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:05 pmI’m guessing my local paper went to press before the ‘real’ wire story came out. Checked it and it’s in there. Validates my belief that the papers are no good for breaking news - Sago miners being a really horrific example of that.
Bush knew that this was going to be the worst hurricane in recorded history. He was told that by the Director of the Federal Emergency Mangement Agency and the National Hurricane Center. He assured everyone that there were personel and equipment at the ready to help. He then went and had cake with John McCain and then “played” guitar in San Diego.
New Video Show George W. Bush Was Fully Briefed On Katrina
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:07 pm12,22
It really doesn’t require much scrutiny. It isn’t their ability or inabilty to prevent or deflect crisis. It’s the lying about what they knew.
I have the most loyal employees on the planet because I admit my errors.
These Bush people are compulsive liars and incompetent.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:10 pmLook at that thing! It covers half the United States!
This wasn’t a little mistake or mess up.
This is the biggest fvck up in the history of America.
I used to dislike Bush. Hurricane Katrina and Bush’s response is what took it over the top. I hate him for what he did to these people.
When I get to Heaven, St. Peter is gonna be like, “Spudge_Boy, we have an issue. I turns out you did hate somebody during you life. Let’s take a look hear……oh, it’s George W. Bush. Go on through.”
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:11 pmSpudge,
I go back on that. Bush wasn’t listening in on the Aug. 29th FEMA briefing, the day the hurricane hit.
‘Bush, who participated in the August 28 FEMA briefing, reassures officials that everything is under control…Bush did not participate in the next day’s briefing.’
http://www.cnn.com/ 2006/ POLITICS/ 03/ 02/ fema.tapes/ index.html
Bush received two updates from Brown on the 29th, however, once on Air Force one once while he was still in Crawford.
So no, Bush was not listening in to what the actual professionals were saying and what the entire group involved in the effort was saying.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:11 pmYou need to relax, WORFEUS. We appreciate your input but rest assured it’s not crucial.
Comment by Impeach Justices Who Ignore Privacy — March 2, 2006 @ 2:55 pm
Nor is it crucial my wasting my time trying to drive your blog forward nimrod.
But feel free to keep driving off your base. And don’t worry, you got the last actual input out of WORFEUS you’re ever gonna get.
Chow for now.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:11 pmThis is just criminal.
R2K
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:13 pmJames,
You are correct in that Bush was not in Crawford on August 29. He was eating cake with John McCain. August 30, he was “playing” guitar in San Diego. He got updates on how fvcked up everything was form his advisors and blew it off.
Cake tastes good.
Playing guitar is fun.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:14 pmI would like to know why the kind folks at the National Hurricane Center could not give a weather forecast to the public that contained the information the President had - that they forecasted the levees would breach. When I say forecasted breaches I do mean probabilities, just like weather forecasts. But if you combined 1. big hurricane and 2. hey, you might get flooded as there is a 70 percent chance of massive flooding due to breaches…people would have gone. And the politicians would have done something.
There was NO talk from NHS or the NOAA etc about levee failures. They knew it was a possibility because they were aware of what those levees were built to withstand. They’re the weather experts - don’t count on your local forecasters who buy a feed from the commercial accuweather.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:15 pmImpeach
“It’s the lying about what they knew.”
Yes, but they don’t care if they are found to be lying. The lying charge never sticks with the GOP base and the middle third “wet noodles” can be counted upon to fall back to the “he said she said” meme.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:16 pmJmaes, Add to your list of reasons that the federal government was needed in New orleans Southern LA and South MS the fact that infrastructure was completely wiped out and that even if infrastructure had been maintained, they simply do not have enough emergency personel to take care of millions of displaced people all at once.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:16 pmWorfeus,
You need to look up the definition of “Nimrod”.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:18 pm“I mean, you guys cranked up the noise machine non-stop for years because of Clinton’s BJ (wow, that was certainly a threat to this nation!)” - Fatty Arbuckle binLaden
******Dear Fatty - Not surprisingly you demonstrate how difficult it is for a mentally challenged person to recall facts. I COULD CARE LESS WHOSE lips were locked on the Presidential schlong - I did care when he tried to obstruct a pending lawsuit. You sensitive “feminist” types are too funny.
Nice try - but as Monica said - “no cigar!”
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:22 pmAnother ignored intelligence briefing? I can’t say I’m surprised, at all. And this will be glossed over as well. It’s nauseating.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:23 pmJames,
The National Hurricane Center DID give warnings.
National Hurricane Center
August 28, 2005
Hurricane KATRINA
COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 15 TO 20 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS…LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 25 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES…CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL.
The Governors of Lousiana and Mississippi both declared a state of emergency, Ray Naggin ordered a mandatory evacuation. George Bush should have got on TV and told everybody to get the hell outta there.
I want to know if people’s TVs turn to the beeping national emergency advisory.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:24 pmYes might aphrodite. Because Bill Clinton got a blow job, hurricane Katrina turned out to be the greatest national disaster in American history.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:26 pm. #36 - MA wrote: “Not surprisingly you demonstrate how difficult it is for a mentally challenged person to recall facts.”
Sweetie, all we have to do for a demonstration of this is to read your posts!
Did you forget that partisan brain of yours conveniently ignores facts that dispute your disingenuous arguments? Silly me! Of COURSE you forgot! It’s a “fact†and your partisan brain will always ignores it!
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:28 pmC’mon, mighty-
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:30 pmNoone hates a whore more than a whore. You’re wrapping yourself in this legal integrity cum-stain covered Israeli flag and it’s hard to watch.
You know it’s about the sex with you types.
#27 - “This is the biggest fvck up in the history of America” - Comment by SpongeMAN
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:30 pm*****Come on SpongeMAN - be honest - Katrina and GWB “response to it were the “biggest F-up in the History of the WORLD - well, at least since the BIG FLOOD. But I’m sure you admire Mayor Ray and Gov Kathleen for “taking charge” and protecting their elderly citizens.
Who is Nagin? Who is Blanco?
Who are these people?
Never heard of them.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:40 pm“Smoochie boochies!”
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:41 pmHey FAIZ,
Thanks for BANNING ME AND DELETING MY POSTS LAST NIGHT.
That was REAL PROGRESSIVE.
My compliments to you and Judd. Biggest favor anyone ever did for me. You gave me my life back. I spent enought time in here.
Now you can delete this one too.
Comment by WORFEUS
What’s the deal? People get censored on this site? What would someone have to do to get there posts deleted?
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:56 pmCaption contest:
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:02 pm(As Governor of Texas, mocking female death row inmates plea for clemency)
“Aw please don’t kill me Mr. Bush…”
Whatever, MA. My original point still stands–you’ll contort yourself into any position in order to continue to kiss Bush’s sorry @ss, no matter what that disaster monkey does.
Sychophant.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:04 pm#21 - “Does it not bother you that Bush uses Israeli flags and gay porn to torture Muslims?”
Comment by Impeach Justices Who Ignore Privacy —
*****Does it BOTHER me???? Not ONE bit - just as long as they don’t desecrate the flag of our allies, the Israelis. and IJWIP - I know this will come to a HUGE shock to you - but radical Muslims are NEVER going to “make friends” with Israel - or Israelis. Grow UP…
#22 - “Bush controls resources far greater than the mayor of New Orleans.” - James
*****Like the busses I mentioned - and you ignored….
#26 - “I have the most loyal employees on the planet because I admit my errors.”-IJW
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:09 pm****I hate to break this to you - your employees said they could stand for a little less verbal masochism on your part and a little more $$$$. But they would settle for self-flagellation (like those sensitive Muslim types engage in)with a sharpened cat’o nine tails. But only if it’s on their meager lunch 1/2 hour. Your hypocrisy is telling…
21: Chertoff and his wife are both Isreali citizens. So maybe the homeland he’s concerned about is not this one.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:16 pm22: I think it would be appropriate to name a federal prison after bush. Maybe there should be a word named after him as well, something implying dishonesty, incompetence, and cronyism.
#49 - “I think it would be appropriate to name a federal prison after bush. Maybe there should be a word named after him as well, something implying dishonesty, incompetence, and cronyism. ”
‘The Bush Administration Detention Facility’!
Implies dishonesty, incompetence, and cronyism! ;-)
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:19 pmCaption Contest: “So then the head of the Carlyle group, Uncle Jim and the Dubai Ports guy, Dubby, I call him, they say ‘Dubya, we’ll make you an offer you can’t refuse’”
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:20 pmCaption contest: What? How big was the turd I laid on the constitution? You know… bout yeh big.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:22 pmWhat does Bush and Bin Laden have in common?
They both support the UAE port deal…
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:23 pm# 53 - They both hate America too!
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:24 pmAphrodite. Explain to me exactly how you would have used the school busses. Explain to me how the President would hav used them, had he commandeered them.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:25 pm22: I think it would be appropriate to name a federal prison after bush.
Comment by Bowdler — March 2, 2006 @ 4:16 pm
There is a federal prison in Iraq that could use a renaming to change it’s image, technically it does not belong to us but when have technicallities of the law ever stopped the wing nuts.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:30 pm49 bowdler -”Maybe there should be a word named after him as well, something implying dishonesty, incompetence, and cronyism.”
america has been “bushed”…is being “bushed” as we speak…
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:35 pmyou mean the busses requested by the national guard from fema that didn’t get there? huh?
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:42 pmWorfeus, I’ll miss your posts. Were you in violation of the comments reqirements? There are somethings that TP has already said they will delete, you probably went over the boundary in the heat of the moment. Hopefully you wil realize that you are an interesting contributor to the discussion and come on back.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:52 pmRemember, we can’t delete posts from the trolls when they break the rules and then not do the same to non-trolls. Peace!
The only truth in those Bush statements is the
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:01 pm“I don’t think” part.
mighty aphrodite, James, pete,
Those school buses WERE used. They were flooded after they were used.
mighty aphrodite,
If hurricane Katrina was not the greatest natural disaster in American history, then name the event that was.
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:11 pmBush is now saying that they couldn’t anticipate since the eye of the storm missed NO by 15 miles. I know many people felt this way, including myself. The phrase “dodged a bullet” was the theme the day after it hit.
Can anybody here dispute this?
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:25 pm#55 - “Aphrodite. Explain to me exactly how you would have used the school busses. Explain to me how the President would hav used them, had he commandeered them.”
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:45 pmComment by pete — March 2, 2006
*****If I were the Empress of the City of NO I would have had city workers, or my neighbors, or the police, or firefighters, or my cousins, take the keys from the bus shack on the bus premises and PICK UP PEOPLE with no transportation. FYI - it wasn’t the President’s job to commandeer local buses (”Brownie, call Chocolate and tell him to take three buses down to the corner of Canal and Elm. He’ll need four buses over by Sacred Heart Academy and two for the St. Rita’s Nursing Home Residents. Get four buses over to Bourbon and Maple Sts, - alert tourists that we’ll get them out along with our residents of new Orleans. Call Kathleen and tell her not to worry, I’ll take care of St Bernard’s Parish as soon as I’m done with New Orleans.”) FEMA is to provide assistance AFTER a disaster strikes - but you wouldn’t know that from this site.
SpongeMan - Those busses were used to bus school chiildren in NO, period. They were NOT used to help people who needed to be evacuated. As for being the greatest natural disaster - it was to date. But when the Pres is informed that the direct hit of Katrina slammed into Mississippi (apparently “sparing” NO) and that the levees had not broken….you whiners sound pathetically desperate. I heard a funny one the other night. A pundit noted that GWB could run into a burning house to save kittens and the left would be pi$$ed. I turned to Mr. Aphrodite and said, “Only if he came out……”
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:53 pm#63. Pretty glib. What do you do with the people that need life support? Medicine? Food? Water? Where do you drive the busses? What do you do tomorrow when you run out of gas? How many of the busses are in serviceable condition? I’m not convinced the busses were ever a solution. Try again.
FYI - you were the one wishing the President had commandeeried the busses. (#12)
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:05 pmmighty,
I’ll defend you on Katrina. But many people blame the residents. I personally don’t feel Bush deserves as much blame as progs would suggest. But in all honesty people in my neck of the woods blame the citizens and it’s rooted in racism.
When I was younger and deeply moved by holocaust movies I used to get upset that Jews allowed themselves to be exterminated. Of course I was wrong.
This pushback against Bush might be off target but there is a general sense it is puchback against bigotry.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:17 pm#62. Dispute which part? That Bush said that? That the hurricane missed NO by 15 miles? That some uninformed people thought NO “dodged a bullet” before they had the facts?
The notion that a hurricane doesn’t make landfall in your front yard and you are safe is ridiculous.
I can tell you this: The eye was about 30 miles across, the eye missed by more than 15 miles, and the hurricane force winds extended more than 100 miles from the eye.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:25 pmpete,
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:28 pmfair enough.
Hey FAIZ,
Thanks for BANNING ME AND DELETING MY POSTS LAST NIGHT.
That was REAL PROGRESSIVE.
My compliments to you and Judd. Biggest favor anyone ever did for me. You gave me my life back. I spent enought time in here.
Now you can delete this one too.
Comment by WORFEUS — March 2, 2006 @ 2:27 pm
No way! What’s going on?
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:36 pm#62
The most important part of that lame ass “the eye didn’t hit New Orleans” arguement is that the eye of the hurricane is where you want to be. Have you ever been in a hurricane? It comes in three parts.
First torential rains and wind going say West to East.
Second is a very calm period with light rain and wind that changes direction.
Third is more torential rians and winds going to opposite direction as the first part, going East to West.
So, this theory is completely stupid. It is the First and Thirds parts that do the damage and cause flooding. Not the eye. The eye is calm.
Have you ever heard the term:
“The eye of the storm.”
It means you are in a calm period before you know everything is about to go to shit.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:38 pmOh and mighty aphrodite,
The buses WERE used to evacuate people before they were flooded. The buses not used myth was created by Fox News to try and make Ray Naggin look bad.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:43 pmPeople, hard as it is to ignore the utter and complete ignorance of Mighty Aphrodite (and I confess, I have trouble with this myself), we must ignore it. And I do mean “it.” It only knows blind trust in prejudice and bigotry. That’s why it and its ilk support Bush. They know a bigot KKKer when they see one, and their first allegiance is to their own. It doesn’t care about real issues, it only cares about protecting the grand wizard. Let’s put this piece of garbage in perspective and throw it in the nearest dust bin where it belongs.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:57 pm#65 - “Pretty glib. What do you do with the people that need life support? Medicine? Food? Water? Where do you drive the busses? What do you do tomorrow when you run out of gas? How many of the busses are in serviceable condition? I’m not convinced the busses were ever a solution. Try again.
FYI - you were the one wishing the President had commandeeried the busses. (#12)”
Comment by pete
******Dear Pete - My response is glib - but true. I am a decisive person - get those people north and west - stopping for gas would have to be done. My response sure as he// beats leaving hundred’s to die while you busy yourself with “evaluations”. Try again.
Re #12 - your FYI is too stupid to comment on. Try again.
#66 - “mighty, I’ll defend you on Katrina. But many people blame the residents.”- IJWIP
****#1 - Thank you. The only residents I blame are the people who had the legs to leave and didn’t. (I do not blame the elderly and the infirm. PERIOD.) I don’t blame people for taking shoes,food and water, baby food, and other necessities - I do blame them for stealing TVs and a host of other electronics, designer handbags, etc. From my vantage point, I blame the residents malaise not on race, but the horrible welfare state mentality.
“When I was younger and deeply moved by holocaust movies I used to get upset that Jews allowed themselves to be exterminated. Of course I was wrong.” - IJWIP
*****My mother was young when her Jewish father moved the family to the US after Austria was “occupied”. He later wrote that he knew this was no “ordinary pogrom”. After Hitler assumed the chancellorship, civil law regarding Jews changed radically. After ghettoization started, it was much harder to move about. You might want to look up the resistance of the Warsaw ghetto.
#71 - Source Spongey??? and not straight from Chocolate’s lips - I - WANT - A - NEWS SOURCE - - - NOT the conspiracist hatching coop at AHNC. P.S Chocolate didn’t need Fox to make him look bad - he did a GREAT job of looking incompetent all by “HISSELF”.
March 2nd, 2006 at 7:22 pmmighty aphrodite,
Are you back to name calling? I thought we were passed that. I guess I was wrong.
March 2nd, 2006 at 7:58 pmNo, SpongeMan - I realize what’s good for the goose is better for the gander - But I do give you MAN status….
Dear Sister Mary Boogie - The KKK?? Please… you can do better than thaaat….I would NEVER join a group that hates Jews and blacks - or allows the senior Senator from West Virginia to join. But enjoy your status of elevated victimhood. You may ignore me - frankly, I don’t see what you add to the conversation, so I’ll ignore you.
March 2nd, 2006 at 8:14 pmDear Sister Mary Boogie - …,,…….,,,,,……..,,,,,,,…………,so I’ll ignore you.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — March 2, 2006 @ 8:14 pm
To ignore someone while you tell them about it is sort of self-contradictory, about par for MA
March 2nd, 2006 at 8:20 pmBush has never graduated from being the frat boy. He hasn’t taken his presidency seriously - just as he didn’t take his numerous businesses (all failures) seriously. He was always seeking fun with his friends of similarly low values, shirking responsibilities, assigning subordinates to do his work for him, taking credit for the work of others, refusing responsibility for his own failures, and calling on family friends to bail out his sorry ass.
March 2nd, 2006 at 8:34 pmHe is not a reformed alcoholic — he is a dry drunk. He has always looked for the “easy” way.
The presidency is a difficult and consuming job, and he was not/is not up to the task. He was/is a loser and probably always will be one of those guys we all know, never pulling his share of the load, mooching off others.
George W. Bush to the assembled reporters.
“I was doing some fishing with some good old folks from here in Texas, when Hurricane Katrina struck. “I caught a huge fish, an absolute whopper, it was this big.”
“Is somebody going to tell me what a heck of a fisherman I am?”
“You’re one heck of a fisherman Mr. President.”
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:02 pmSorry about the triple entry . Not intentional. Glitch related.
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:50 pm[…] Fox can be so shameless. I know, that is repeating the obvious, but how do they say “fair and balanced” with a straight face? The home page tonight was a spinfest. First they are spinning the bush Katrina video as proof that it was the local official’s fault. Because the real story isn’t the fact that Bush went on TV and lied. […]
March 2nd, 2006 at 11:22 pmWhat the fvck is that supposed to mean?
March 2nd, 2006 at 11:52 pmSpudge sounds like Mr. aphrodite is making a move for you. Now, I don’t care what two people do in tneir own privacy. I have never got the impression you were that type. Mayb e we can hook Mr. aphrodite up with Jeff Gannon, they seem to have a lot in common.
March 3rd, 2006 at 12:04 amBush never cared about New Orleans > he even sent paid mercenaries from “Blackwater Corp.” into the Big Easy to murder some of the Blacks who did not drown! Impeach the Dubya dummy already!!!
March 3rd, 2006 at 1:31 amLet’s face it this is a rich boy that is completely in over his head. Through his whole life, whole life, he has had it fixed for him, fixed. Imagine that, everything is fixed and he still figures out a way to fuck it up. I mean how fixed can 2000 be, how fixed can the Congress be, how fixed can the media be, fixed, fixed, fixed. And he still just messes it up. No wonder his mother always wondered about George, He hobbles emotionally across our stage, and somehow we give him credit. You are witnessing a true freak of nature that has become our politic. Wealth of the second genertion, very ugly, very psychopathic.
March 3rd, 2006 at 3:32 amMighty Hypocrite,
Even if Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco are partly to blame, all evidence indicates that President Shrub was warned of the likelihood of the levees breaking but did nothing about it. Maybe he is only partly to blame in the Katrina case. But at whom do you intend to blame for Bush’s decision to ignore warnings that “Bin Ladin is determined to attack in the US” using airplanes? Really, can a title of a report get much clearer than that?
March 3rd, 2006 at 4:46 amNEW ORLEANS - NBC News has now obtained the videotape of a key private meeting between federal and state officials on Monday Aug. 29, the day Hurricane Katrina hit. Though Michael Brown has been critical of President Bush, the tape shows Brown praising the president that day, saying they’d already talked twice.
“He’s asking questions about reports of breaches,†Brown says in the video. “He’s asking about hospitals. He’s really engaged, and he’s asking a lot of really good questions.â€
March 3rd, 2006 at 5:41 amNEW ORLEANS - NBC News has now obtained the videotape of a key private meeting between federal and state officials on Monday Aug. 29, the day Hurricane Katrina hit. Though Michael Brown has been critical of President Bush, the tape shows Brown praising the president that day, saying they’d already talked twice.
“He’s asking questions about reports of breaches,†Brown says in the video. “He’s asking about hospitals. He’s really engaged, and he’s asking a lot of really good questions.â€
March 3rd, 2006 at 5:41 am” I blame the residents malaise not on race, but the horrible welfare state mentality.”
mighty,
March 3rd, 2006 at 8:19 amI know how it is. There are members of my family who can’t decide whom they hate more: The survivors, or the dead. You’re using the “welfare state” slant as a cover for your hatred. There is a broad spectrum of people who chose to stay behind. And it’s the srories of white people concerned for their property whom chose to stay who tend to make the news.
People stayed behind. Whether it’s because they’re stupid, mentally unfit, poor, concerned home owners, risk takers, thieves, drug dealers, pimps, whores, geriatric-Who cares? You pity or you hate from what I’ve seen. There’s no in between.
You play like a cheap fiddle, mighty.
Holocaust Jews
Uneducated miners
Residents of New Orleans
Residents of Darfur
Dying African AIDS patients
So easy to hate.
March 3rd, 2006 at 8:26 am#73. Thanks for proving my point. I’m satisfied that you really don’t have any kind of a reasonable way to use the busses. You’re all snappy comebacks and vitriole aren’t you?
March 3rd, 2006 at 9:15 am#85 - “Even if Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco are partly to blame, all evidence indicates that President Shrub was warned of the likelihood of the levees breaking but did nothing about it.” Lora -
****”Partly to blame”…oh, that’s too delicious….stupid…but delicious.
You ARE right about binLaden - Bush should have grounded EVERY SINGLE plane from 1/22/01 through 09/15/01. THAT might have prevented the awful catastrophe - or they might have moved to trains, or boats, or RV’s…yeah, that’s it - at..say Mt. Rushmore. BUT when you can’t blame Bush for everything - say something remarkably stupid.
March 3rd, 2006 at 4:09 pmWe must keep this individual from going back to his ranch next August, as it is my beach month and I don’t wish to be blown up while taking my rays.
March 3rd, 2006 at 5:03 pmsay something remarkably stupid.
Comment by mighty hypocrite — March 3, 2006 @ 4:09 pm
Do you mean like you all the time?
March 3rd, 2006 at 5:38 pmAnd when you can’t defend Dumbya, either change the subject or the facts? The report “Bin Ladin determined to attack in the US” and the warnings (ignored, of course, by the Busheviks) from some FBI agents about the suspicious number of Arabs in flight schools came over the summer before 9/11–not around January 22. Stupid but definitely not delicious.
Does anyone remember that young man, 17-18, I think, who got on a bus, and went around, picking up as many people as he could, then drove them to Texas, and was turned away at the Astro Dome, because he was “not authorized” to transport evacuee’s ? And then he was even threatened with being arrested, for “stealing” the bus ? So even when they did try to save themselves, those “in charge” had their heads so firmly lodged in their rectums, that they were only capable of making a horrible situation even more so. Way to go !!
March 4th, 2006 at 1:45 amAnd as usual, Bush shows up, and starts writting checks with his mouth that his ass has NO intention of cashing. Like always. He IS “Cornholio”.
#94 - Dear Cyra - “You’re entitled to your own opinion - but not your own set of facts,” (D. P. Moynihan, D-NY). The young man was 22, saw the buses (bright young man) broke into the shack where the keys were(brilliant young man), picked up approx 60 people (ages: infant to senior citizen) was NOT turned away from the AstroDome and was NOT threatened with arrest. Other than a few minor, diparaging details, Cyra, you did quite well. Congratulations!
March 4th, 2006 at 8:02 pmMighty Hypocrite,
March 4th, 2006 at 10:59 pm94 - Dear Cyra - “You’re entitled to your own opinion - but not your own set of facts,†(D. P. Moynihan, D-NY). You may be right in this case, Mighty, but I have found many cases where you use your own set of (non)facts or change the subject when you can no longer offer an excuse for the Busheviks or a dig at liberals/progressives. (Your recent attempt to blame us for your crooked ex-Congressman Randy Cunningham was particularly egregious.)
Do you have any excuse for the $300 million worth of FEMA trailers sitting unused in Hope, Arkansas rather than going to people left homeless by Katrina? Yes, I know there’s a rule about the kind of land they can be set up on, but one would think a competent government might be aware of that rule before spending all that money on the trailers and to transport them to Arkansas, or at least make an exception to the rule to help the thousands who need living accommodations.
Do you have any explanation why Dumbya, Condi, etc. ignored warnings in August 2001 about Bin Ladin’s intention to attack within the US and FBI agents’ warnings about the suspicious number of Arabs suddenly enrolling in flight schools and not wanting to learn how to land the plane–just fly it? Do you have any excuse for the fact that nearly 4 1/2 years after 9/11, the US State Dept. still has only 10 people capable of translating Arabic, and undoubtedly even a smaller number of those competent in Urdu, Farsi, Pashtu, and other languages spoken in the Muslim countries? Do you think the potential and real terrorists are communicating to each in English?
The lawmakers don’t give a rats butt. As far as they’re concerned, health care couldn’t be better. But then, they ARE getting socialized, single-payer health care, unlike the rest of us.
November 20th, 2006 at 7:01 am