that found that 72 percent of U.S. troops want out of Iraq within a year. “It shouldn’t surprise anybody that a deployed soldier would rather be at home than deployed, even when they believe what they are doing is important and vital work,” Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said. (HT: Dadahead)
We can’t even win the hearts and minds of our own men.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:11 pmWhat do they know? They are not risking their lives in the pentagon every morning..
R2K
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:12 pmNow even the troops do not “Support the Troops”.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:14 pm“We couldn’t have predicted the mutiny of the military.”
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:15 pmeven that 72% would look pale if they asked how the soldiers like Rumsfeld.
I think we’d hit 100% saying no.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:15 pm“We have to address the fact that the president has broken the law.†— Senator Russ Feingold
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:16 pmPentagon dismisses poll…
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:16 pmimagine that…
7- Indeed. Next thing you know, somebody will discover the sky is blue.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:19 pmDid they explain why 85% think Saddam was behind 911? Maybe the Pentagon lied?
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:19 pmPentagon releases its own poll!
After receiving results back on a Pentagon funded poll the press was told today that 9 in 10 southern baptist republicans think the soldiers owe them at least 3 more tours of duty and that they will like it.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:19 pm72% is a fairly accurate number; however, if you figure in only folks who are semi-educated on current political situations and Bush policy, the number is much higher.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:24 pm72% is extremely high considering all of the troops over there only get the conservative propaganda day in and day out.
Armed Forces radion only carries conservative talk shows. Give them a week of Ed Schultz and Al Franken and that 72% will go up to 90%.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:27 pmUh, oh! Does this mean the Republicans are going to label the troops as “un-American” for not “supporting the troops” and “giving aid and comfort to the enemy terrorists”???
Who’s going to torture. . . er, um. . . . “interrogate” the troops to find out who the un-patriotic troops are??? Hey, Rush Limbaugh, we need your expertise on “frat house pranks†to “interrogate†the troops!
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:32 pmhey yea, bobcat – what ever happened to that – i thought ed shultz was going to be carried on AFradio…
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:34 pmjudd? faiz? anybody know?
#14 Katy:
Apparently, Ed was told, “Yea, we’ll start carrying you. We’ll call you.”
Crickets have been chirping while Ed waits for the call.
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:43 pmThis just in: Pentagon says military personnel will “think what we want them to think.”
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:47 pmIn the past, every poll done by a major reputable organization has always shown the military being very supportive of the policies of the Administration and the Pentagon and the Administration had always done everything they could to trumpet those poll results to the American public. But those questions were almost always directed to the officer corps and those planning to make a career out of the military, which strongly infers that they had a built-in bias not to rock the boat, which meant that their views were going to be conservative and Republican. But this poll was different. The questions were given to those in the field, who are much closer to a real combat situation than from those who are colonels and above. The top brass knows that the ordinary grunt is going to be a lot more skeptical about why the U.S. is in Iraq and, more importantly, if and how long it should before the United States should leave that abatoir known as Iraq. The Pentagon and the White House are trying to sell this but as Steve McQueen said in the movie Bullitt, the American Public and the soldiers risking their lives in that hellhole “aren’t buying it”.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:30 pmCorrection on post #17-
It should read “and long it should be before the United States…”
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:33 pmMost GIs in a war zone want out–what’s new about that? Who wants to carry around a hundred pounds of battle-rattle, sleep on a concrete floor and get shot at? The fact that they’re “volunteers” (many are not) doesn’t lessen the shock and horror of actually being in a war zone.
In Vietnam the theme song was from The Animals:
I want to get out of this place
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:01 pmIf it’s the last thing I ever do
I want to get out of this place
‘Cause girl we’ve got better things to do
Funny.
For the past four years I’ve been hearing “xx percent of the troops support the war.” Now that they don’t, it’s suddenly unimportant?
No way. The pentagon and conservatives are not getting away with that reverse-spin.
March 2nd, 2006 at 8:04 pmOf course the Pentagon will spin the facts of the poll their own way — what choice do they have?
March 2nd, 2006 at 8:44 pmThe bottom line, however, is that the Pentagon has screwed around with the soldiers from the start and they continue to do so, so to discover that the troops want to go home shouldn’t be a surprise. The problem is that they are subject to the military rule – Pentagon, Rumsfeld, et al, and complain as they may, they’re there until they are told to go home. The soldiers have to be feeling like prisoners only instead of being kept in a cell, every day they are sent into battle, fighting for their lives.
They are as much victims as the Iraqis and ourselves.With all this news about propaganda being published everywhere how is one to know what is false and what to believe.It is my policy never to give this administration ANY benefit of the doubt.Per se:the offical story of the start of all these troubles,first in FLA and then in NY and DC.Having been keeping an eye on the Israeli/Palestinian situation for many years,that would be your powder keg.The matches were supplied by the tara attack called 911.The old who benefits and follow the money tenants need to be adhered to by everyone,don’t become distracted by all the smoke and mirrors,don’t become discouraged by the atrocity and hypocracy,stay focused on the diminuation of those who kill for profit and their deceits.Impeach and convict.
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:02 pmExtremists and partisans always disregard any evidence and facts that don’t match their partisan pre-conclusions. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that the partisans in the pentagon ignore reality, just as they did on the run up to the war.
March 3rd, 2006 at 8:18 pmLooks like the Pentagon got the memo:
“create reality at all costs”…
March 4th, 2006 at 11:44 am