Never mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps you make a living; the other helps you make a life.

Well said.

Miracles occur naturally as expressions of love. The real miracle is the love that inspires them. In this sense everything that comes from love is a miracle

Didn’t realise there was this type of information out there

All I can say is how empty your post is. You’ve run out of rational things to say, so you simply repeat your tired rhetoric for at least the tenth time. I bet even some of your compatriots have tired of it. Waste of much of your time as you like.

Sweetie, what you wrote is typical partisan brain. Just because you can’t reconcile the inconsistency in your rant about ‘all life’ being sacred, and abortions are wrong, while believing that it’s OK for bombs to kill babies, and abort fetuses in direct conflict of your ‘claimed’ values – it isn’t my problem, it’s yours. We weren’t discussing my values pumpkin, only yours and how they’re 100% inconsistent, and incapable of seeing and understanding the perceptions of others.

Your little silly rant is just another example of your inability to function as a decent, moral or consistent human being – but I forgive you. Your belief that one set of murders is justified to prevent another set of murders is what I expect out of people with limited imaginations and little creativity. Clearly you’re a partisan out of limited options. It’s OK pumpkin, I’m sure you’re trying to be a decent moral person, even if you don’t have a very large capacity to do so. Keep trying, someday maybe the fog will lift, and you’ll learn to love instead of to only see how your options are to kill others. That’s not a choice, it’s a sentence pumpkin.

I’m sorry to hear that you would have preferred an invasion of mainland Japan, with casualty estimates ten or more times greater than what did occur. That shows a bloodthirst, an appetite for carnage that is truly appalling. Your willingness to see so many more deaths prolonged over a much longer period makes you truly a monster.

Or perhaps it is you that is reality impaired.

Clif, perhaps you’re right; I don’t know the background of the story. But even if she should have looked closely by our judgement doesn’t mean it’s illegal that she didn’t. I thought that was the standard we were debating: legality. If she gets indicted, then she’s on her own, and we’ll all see what happens. I just expected a more balanced approach from everbody between Harris on Conyers, given how little is known about each. Instead, Conyers gets “wait and see” and Harris gets led to the gallows before an indictment.

Almost a requirement these days it seems.

Why are neocons so hard to convice? Do they ever look at reality? It seems they have this locked-in worldview (quite a destructive one) and can’t even see outside their little bubbles. But I’m biased.

Oh sweetie, might doesn’t make right – this is a religious fantasy of the christian zealots for hundreds of years. Just because she won an election, it doesn’t mean she’s righteous, moral or even correct. After all, you claim Clinton was a bad man, and he won re-election quite readily even after the scandals broke.

Are you actually going to argue that someone who’s done something immoral wouldn’t get elected to office if it were true? Whatever you’re smoking must be really good, because you’re not making any sense pumpkin.

And besides, didn’t you catch the recent statement by Jeb, where he was actually ‘worried’ about the amount of vote fraud and voting machine irregularities that have been showing up in Florida? How are you even sure Harris won in light of that revelation pumpkin?

“Jay had one sentence to that argument, then went about seemingly justifying why Iran should have a couple of nukes. If I got the argument backward, I wasn’t the first. Seth II”

You know, their enrichment program was put on hold until Bush invaded Iraq, and threatened to invade them. Had you ever thought that maybe this is a problem of republican proportions? I’m not real fond of any nation having nuclear weapons, but we’re the country that invaded another sovereign nation on false pretense, fabricated evidence and against international will. We’re the only country that has used nuclear weapons. If you were Iran, what do you think you might do if you felt threatened pumpkin?

Oh wait, that requires a rational mind to answer, so I’ll forgive you in advance for whatever silly thing you say in response. I know you’ll do the best you can with your partisan brain, but undoubtedly it’ll just be silly.

That part is telling.

Harris = 1 term, after illegally giving Bush the 2000 election

If she had so illegally betrayed the people of Florida, how did she get elected Representative?

Harris = 1 term, after illegally giving Bush the 2000 election

The MZM contribution was the largest contribution Harris had, by over 50%. She couldn’t have missed it (if she looked).

Conyers? I’ll wait and see. If he’s exonerated, it won’t be the first witch hunt that failed.

Jay had one sentence to that argument, then went about seemingly justifying why Iran should have a couple of nukes. If I got the argument backward, I wasn’t the first.

At least you’re not blindly defending Conyers. It just seems that you (plural “you”) are condemning Harris with even less info than has been revealed about Conyers, about whom you wish to wait and see what happens.

So you don’t have any qualms about Iran having nuclear weapons?

Seth II,

No, you are takin gthe arguement backwards. We don’t want anybody to have Nuclear weapons. They are bad for everybody involved.

and she donated it after finding out.

Yes, all of the corrupt republicans have donated the money they illegally detained.

We will see about Conyers. Until their is some solid proof, we don’t know anything. It is only hearsay right now. Like, I can say you murdered somebody. Until their is some proof, it is not real. Harris would not have donated the money if it wasn’t real.

JOE – #60: From what I can find (Miami Hearald), the contributor didn’t tell Harris that the money was illegal, and she donated it after finding out. Conyers’ own former staffers are claiming (Detriot Free Press) he committed ethics violations. Are you arguing that the Harris story is of more weight than the Conyers story?

One of the Congress guys (missed his name) stated that if a democracy elects someone that the US doesn’t like, we should overthrow them. Anyone else catch this?

It’s like it is here: the neocons feel that they have the obligation to take power away from the liberals using any means necessary, in my opinion of course…