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Kristol: Conservatives Believe The Bush Administration Is Incompetent»

Today on Fox News Sunday, Weekly Standard Editor Bill Kristol said that conservatives have come to believe the Bush administration is incompetent:

BILL KRISTOL: I think it’s become in people’s minds an emblem of the administration that just isn’t as serious about the competent execution of the functions of government as it should be. And even — I’m struck talking to conservatives and Republicans — they agree with the president on basic political philosophy, the they agree with his basic policy agenda, but they are worried that they just don’t seem to be able to execute as well as they should be.

Kristol is right, and it’s a dynamic that makes policy debates almost irrelevant. Even if the administration were to stumble onto a policy that would improve things, it’s highly unlikely the people in charge would be able to execute the policy effectively.

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  1. DSM Says:

    Looks like he wants a better more effiecient leader for PNAC


  2. Bush is Watching You 24/7 Says:

    “We have to address the fact that the president has broken the law.” — Senator Russ Feingold


  3. Bush is Watching You 24/7 Says:

    King?
    Graham?
    Kristol?

    All of these people support Bush/Rove. They always will. When they dissent in public it is only to correct the bearings.

    Neocon regulating itself is no cause for a jerk fest.

    I’m tired of thes threads that showcase Neocon dissent because they are ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS.


  4. SuperEdo Says:

    And it took him six years to figure this out! Sharp one, that Bill.


  5. Tobey Tall Says:

    Yes I agree the Bush administration is a lot lot more than just incompetent


  6. Jodi Says:

    Bill Kristol says conservatives now believe that GWB is incompetent. Ya think Bill? What took you guys so long?
    I swear, conservatives are so slow…


  7. Tobey Tall Says:

    mass murderers
    oil stealers
    torturers
    and finally incompetent


  8. thot's n TN Says:

    bush & co Excute Secret govering ,torture,invasions ,greed, pandering to terrorist governments, spending money trillions of dollars just to achieve others natural resources for the top 1% who are his bedmates. Destroying the middle class right here at home. Destroying young peoples dreams of a college education ,forcing young people to join the military to fight his ongoing wars just so tehse same young people can get a college education unless they’remurdered in Iraq by the bush crime family.

    Supressing the Media from telling the facts.

    FiningA man in NOLA for giving away Tee Shirts that was opposing FEMA lame brains.

    Wiretapping Americans and destroying the Bill Of Rights.
    Destroying and Snubbing the Laws of America The lost!

    They Excute Treason Very Well!

    Giving America away to teh highest bider at the same time screaming the Muslims are Coming ! To which it sounds like the Red Scare of The 50’s

    Impeach and Jail These JackLeggs !


  9. beavercleaver Says:

    Kristol just needs to read the Think Progress’s troll posts…then he’d know how to defend the indefensible.(It’s all in the wrist Billy!)


  10. James Says:

    Kristol is just looking ahead - trying to make sure he doesn’t become ‘irrelevent’. Bush’s presidency has been defined by incompetence - something that Kristol helped to further through his rather pathetic publication.

    Perhaps Kristol really believes it, but he is going to have to redefine both himself and his publication if he wants to continue to influence policy after Bush.

    At this point it looks like Congress is going to have a greater role as the president sinks further.


  11. Colorado Jyms Says:

    6 years later these clowns realize the emperor has no cloths? Oi. Why can’t we start impeaching these clowns now? I’m tired of waiting to get control of the house back.


  12. IguanaMon Says:

    OK, so the republicans are finally looking up from their slop trough to notice that Bush is a moron? I wonder how long it will take them to notice the fires lit for the coming BBQ?

    Come and get it!


  13. Bush is Watching You 24/7 Says:

    Bush has always been a tool for special interest.
    Kristol is still a bad guy even if Bush is falling out of fashion.


  14. Bush is Watching You 24/7 Says:

    I don’t watch Fox. Is that Monkey First Class Juan Williams sitting there next to him?


  15. G.W. Bush Says:

    Does Kristol write for the Weekly Standard of the Double Standard?

    Just another PNAC NAZI.

    -GSD


  16. Edward Deevy Says:

    I don’t buy the “competency argument.” According to this argument it is okay for Bush to go off half-cocked on a pre-emptive war against Iraq…the problem that he did not implement this neo-con instigated policy competently. Bullshit! It’s the fuckin’ policy, stupid!


  17. stefan Says:

    I don’t think he and the neocons are going so far as to say “incompetent”. Yes, they are dancing around the idea with convoluted language like “executing not as well”, but they haven’t reached that critical mass of thinking. But this - FINALLY - is just the beginning of the beginning of the end. They’ll start with this timid criticisms which while open the door for the MSM to report these stories as they are - and THEN you’ll start hearing the word “incompetent.”


  18. hotwings Says:

    It’s far too late for a policy change, even if Cheney is removed, or resigns or drops dead from the stress. Appointing a McCain to take his place will not work. First, one would need to give Bush a brain transplant from someone whose brain functioned with intelligence then redo his adolescent personality traits–all of them

    He has lied too too many times and he has operated in secret in far too too many venues to even beging to think a policy change would work–even if the most brilliant propagandist in the world shovels photo ops and lies to the people, they will not believe him. He is walking time bomb because all of that secrecy, the thuggery, the deceit, the abuse of the law and the constitution are waiting to be revealed–and they will be–drip after drip, even if the CIA and the FBI are trying to intimidate journalists and those who would whistleblow, it will not work. There will be a backlash and should he appoint McCain or Lieberman, they will go down with his sinking ship .


  19. beep52 Says:

    I think the purpose of a lot of this conservative dissent is to separate the broken Bush from their broken ideology. In other words, this particular “person” is at fault not the underlying ideology, which they still cling to and hope to further through the next figurehead they nominate.


  20. cosmo Says:

    What “conservatives?” Kristol and the other dim bulbs like him don’t even faintly resemble authentic conservatives. These guys are nothing but greedy partisans, intent on protecting the entrenched economic interests.


  21. Jeff Huber Says:

    This is becoming “Classic Kristol.” He had all the right ideas, Bush and Co. screwed things up.


  22. Bush is Watching You 24/7 Says:

    Peter King, on Karl Rove divulging State Secrets:

    “I think Karl Rove should get a medal.”

    Don’t forget who these people are after Bush is gone.

    Kristol would storm into your home to propagate his ideas just as quickly as he’d support Bush or anyone else dedicated to his F*CKED UP PHILOSOPHIES.


  23. Jim Says:

    If congess has no spine to remove this cabal from our nation, maybe the world court will use it’s power with the Rome Statute. Thats a great way to spread freedom…


  24. Bush is Watching You 24/7 Says:

    Kristol
    and
    Ledeen
    are
    master
    liars.

    And they do not have America’s best interests in mind.


  25. G.W. Bush Says:

    Listening to these Neo-conartists and Bush shills “Abandon Chimp” now, after all the shit that has been pulled is like watching a mass-murdere help to rope off a crime scene with blood all over his hands, hoping that no one notices.

    We are on to Mr. Kristol.

    -GSD


  26. Bush is Watching You 24/7 Says:

    “We are on to Mr. Kristol.”

    Right on, brother.


  27. G.W. Bush Says:

    By the way, what a puss on Kristol in that picture. He looks like he is trying to take a dump after a week of eating peanuts and sawdust.

    -GSD


  28. SD Says:

    “I’m tired of thes threads that showcase Neocon dissent because they are ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS.”

    I have to disagree: Shedding light on the outright Hypocrisy is a lot better than just saying “Same S___, Different Day”.

    Showing how these people just give Lip Service to dissatisfaction and yet no Action puts pressure on them.


  29. wisedup Says:

    who the f*** is this guy? A classic case of the pot calling the kettle black! His paycheck must be in trouble. That smug ‘I’m always RIGHT’ attitude is cause for vomit.


  30. Dem02020 Says:

    #4 I agree a little; the thing is that there are many who are misinterpreting the ‘hedging’ comments of late by the administration’s media hacks (and others) as ‘dissent’, or ‘criticism’, which of course they are not; they are merely comments of tepid support for the administration, and sometimes they are even the administration’s talking points:

    One week ago, the administration floated a ‘trial ballon’ of a talking point, ‘Civil War’ in Iraq (when anybody can see there is no government at all there, just a violent ‘Anarchy’ created by this administration). Well, that ‘Civil War’ talking point was misinterpreted by some as criticism of the administration’s Iraq scheme. It was not. Consider this statement in an Associated Press report appearing this morning, titled…

    Violence Prevents Formation of Iraq Gov’t.

    [7th paragraph] U.S. officials believe a unity government that includes Iraq’s main ethnic and religious communities is essential for stabilizing the country and allowing U.S. and other foreign forces to start pulling out in the summer.

    …read it carefully. While the ‘Civil War’ talking point seems to have mysteriously disappeared (did Fox really claim it was a media myth?), there it is, right there:

    U.S. officials believe

    a unity government…

    is essential for…

    allowing U.S. forces to start pulling out in the summer.

    That’s the ‘Civil War’ talking point, complete with it’s reason for existing: To keep U.S. Troops in Iraq.

    And so no, that ‘Civil War’ crap from Kristol last weekend was never anything like criticism; it was only a failed ‘trial ballon’ of a talking point (which is certain to be floated again).

    And as for the above item’s supposed ‘dissent’: Mr. Kristol did not use the word “incompetent” as best as I can read; he said merely that:

    “the administration just isn’t as serious about the competent execution of the functions of government as it should be”

    …and that in “talking to conservatives and Republicans — they agree with the president on basic political philosophy, and they agree with his basic policy agenda”

    Two talking points: The first makes an excuse for the administration, and the second attempts to shore up the administration’s base.

    Read them carefully.


  31. Jay Randal Says:

    Kristol is a NEOCON stooge and he just criticizes Bush because he is NOT killing enough in Iraq to please him!

    He also wants Bush to attack Iran ASAP and kill millions to carry out their devious plans of Middle East domination!


  32. Sharon Cox Says:

    Jim, I brought up the world court several months ago, was hoping Bush could get charged for war crimes and lot’s more. The troll’s and many others poo pooed it. Someone said we don’t recognize the world court. I would be grateful for any court to endict this entire bunch and put them in jail, preferably in an out of country secret place to never be heard from again. My second choice would be one of the internment camps they have built to house all of us. Throw over the fence some spoiled balogna and tainted water from Hallaburton and call it good….Forever with out representation would be fitting their crimes…..Blessings


  33. G.W. Bush Says:

    The fever has broken in the nation. Bush’s polls are in the tank. The ratings of Fox and of apologists and liars like Calamitty, Dildo Bill O’Reilly, Ingrateham, CRushed Limpballs are in a free fall.

    The wankers are stepping away from Bush like he is a smelly fart.

    The international community has had enough.

    The lunatics are getting more and more shrill in their illogical attempts to prop up the Chimp and his cabal.

    Rove is still under the watchfull eye of Pat Fitzgerald.

    There are a battery of Republican indictments waiting in the wings and there are a host of sentencings that are waiting in the wings too….Delay is in a run for his life in the primaries…..

    Even the trolls have lost their gusto.

    But, beware the wounded beast, when these asshats are in their weakest moment is when they are the most dangerous..so be on the lookout and ready to react if the ruling junta tries any shit.

    -GSD


  34. G.W. Bush Says:

    “He also wants Bush to attack Iran ASAP and kill millions to carry out their devious plans of Middle East domination!”

    That will spell the end of our nation as we know it. The warmongers are out of their minds and Iran will rally to the attack and will unite the disparite Muslim world and will open up the gates of hell like we have never known.

    That will be the endgame…

    But then again, Bush said that “we won’t know how history will judge him because we’ll all be dead.”

    Chimpy may get his wish.

    -GSD


  35. OxyConservative Says:

    My tagline reads:

    The only thing Bush is good at is campaigning,
    smearing and of course, misleading.
    He sucks at governing.

    I’m glad Kristol feels the same way.

    Democrats believe government is the best way to enrichen everyone’s lives.
    RepubliCONS believe government is the best way to get your hands on taxpayer money.
    This is why Bush sucks at governing. He doesn’t believe in government. He believes in power.


  36. Tannen Says:

    It’s everyone “out for themselves” time. The GOP is sinking under all the weight of these scandals and it won’t be long before things really come to a head. I’m ready for:
    1) Fitzgerald to indict more in the WH
    2) Abramoff to cause the indictments of higher-ups in
    the WH as well as the House and Senate.
    3) The undoing of the Port sale which will make the
    Meir’s bru-ha-ha look silly.
    4) And last, but not least, Americans DEMANDING our
    soldiers come home immediately, which will
    reiterate all of the LIES which Bush and Co. have
    told to the People as well as The Congress.
    After this, I pray in my heart of hearts, IMPEACHMENT of the President, Vice President, et.al. will surely follow.


  37. Jay Randal Says:

    Yes post 35 GSD > the attack on Iran could lead to nuclear WWIII and the end of the world?! Bush wants to end the world, so he must be demonic to want to kill us all off?!

    The only way to stop the madness in DC now is to demand the House and Senate to impeach Bush and Cheney before they attack Iran! Kristol and the Neocons must be arrested or deported to Israel!


  38. Sue Says:

    GET A CLUE, BRAINDEAD SHEEP! BUSH,CONDI, RUMMIE AND CHENEY ARE NOT IMCOMPENTENT BUT IN BED WITH THE REAL TERRORISTS! THAT IS WHY HE/THEY WANT TO SELL OUR 22 OF OUR U.S. PORTS TO KNONW TERRORISTS AND ALSO SELL TWO COMPANIES WHO MAKE MILITARY CRITICAL COMPONENTS TO KNOWN TERRORISTS AS WELL! GET A GODDAMN F*CKING CLUE,SHEEP! 9-11 WAS IN INSIDE JOB! OUR NATION IS IN GRAVE DANGER AND THEY ARE PLANNING MORE ATTACKS ON U.S. AND WILL BLAME IRAN FOR IT, JUST LIKE THEY DID IRAQ! HOW MUCH MORE GODDAMN PROOF DO YOU DUMB ASSES NEED? DOES HE/THEY HAVE TO ADMIT TO BEING IN BED WITH REAL TERRORISTS FROM UAE AND BIN LADEN FOR YOU BRAINDEAD DUMB ASSES TO WAKE UP? I SUGGEST YOU MORONS, STOCK ON UP BOTTLED WATER AND CANNED FOOD AS THE GODDAMN FEMA PEOPLE WON’T HELP YOU, LOOK AT KATRINA! Now Sibel Edmonds is going talk about what SHE KNOWS! I only pray they don’t murder her or anything! GODDAMN WAKE THE F*CK UP! OUR NATION IS BEING DESTROYED FROM WITHIN, YOU BRAINDEAD SHEEP! The damn “war on terrorism” IS BOGUS and just meant to further suppress people of the world so Big Business and their evil politician backers can RULE the whole world along with the Bilterberg Group too! And Bill and Hillary Clinton and others in Congress are in on it with Bush regime too! STOP THE SALE OF THOSE 22 U.S. PORTS TO KNOWN TERRORISTS AND NOW AND ALSO STOP HALLIBURTON FROM RUNNING THOSE PORTS TOO AND NOW AND ALSO DEMAND BUSH REGIME AND OTHERS BE ARRESTED, IMMEDIATELY BY U.S. TROOPS OR FBI OR U.S. MARSHALL’S AND ALSO STOP THE SALE OF THOSE MILITARY PARTS MAKER’S TO KNOWN TERRORISTS AND DEMAND ALL MILITARY HARDWARE BE MADE IN U.S.AND NOW AND NOT BY ANY COMPANIES OWNED OR SUBSIDARIES OF CARLYLE GROUP EITHER NOR HALLIBURTON ALL OF WHOM HAVE TIES TO ALQUEDA AND SAUDI’S AND REAL TERRORISTS! And tell Everyone to stock up immediately on bottled water an canned food and NOW! Russian MP says U.S. will attack Iran on March 28th! We MUST STOP THIS ASAP, BEFORE OUR NATION MURDERS MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE LIKE IN IRAQ ONLY IRAN, WHILE BEING IN BED WITH THE REAL TERRORISTS IN DUBAI AND BIN LADEN AND OTHERS! And DON’T trust Israel EITHER! They wanted us to bomb Iran months ago! WHY IN HELL MUST WE DO AND GO TO WAR WITH EVERYONE ISRAEL TELLS US TOO? AIPAC IS NO.1 LOBBYING GROUP IN AMERICA! AND IT MUST STOP! ALL OF OUR POLITICIANS NEED BE QUESTIONED ON WHO THEY ARE LOYAL TO? U.S. OF A OR ISRAEL OR SAUDI’S OR CHINA!? AND NOW! DEMAND THEY ALL PUT AMERICA FIRST NOT ISRAEL,NOR CHINA NOR SAUDI’S, WHILE THEY DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN! 9-11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB FOLKS! THE DUBAI PORT DEAL FURTHER PROVES IT! OUR NATION IS IN GRAVE DANGER! PLEASE, STAND UP NOW AND DEFEND OUR NATION AGAINST THE TRAITORS IN OUR OWN GOV’T WHO ARE GUILTY OF TREASON, BUSH, CHENEY, RUMMIE, CONDI AND OTHERS, JOHN SNOW, JOHN BOLTON AND THE WHOLE GODDAMN EVIL PNAC GROUP! PLUS MORE!


  39. profmarcus Says:

    i may not be as rabid on the point as the previous poster, but i am inclined to disbelieve the constant drumbeat of allegations of incompetence… i think the bush administration has been extraordinarily competent in generating fear in the populace, seizing power, exercising social control and funneling money into the pockets of the already super-rich and powerful… they have also generated massive distrust of the government by its citizens and lobotomized virtually all of the implied and explicit social contract… hardly incompetence in my book… the mistake that gets made is the assumption that bushco’s agenda has ever included good, competent government, at least as you or i would define it…


  40. Tannen Says:

    Time to put a stop to there End Game.


  41. Tannen Says:

    sorry ‘they’re


  42. Bluestocking Says:

    It’s taken them this long to figure this out??? If they’re unhappy, they only have themselves to blame for selecting Bush as their candidate and then voting for him…

    Some of us were getting a clue shortly after the 2000 election — if not before. I guess this just serves as further evidence that John Stuart Mill was right when he said “I never meant to say that the conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally conservatives.”


  43. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Sue,

    I read through every post before I got to yours. You must not want anybody to read it, for two reasons, first, you are yelling at everybody: All Caps. Even the trolls know not to do that and two You can’t put emphasis on most of a very long paragraph. Do you stand around yelling at everybody and put emphasis on every word you say in real life? That must be very ackward for the people you are talking to.


  44. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Why does William Kristol hate America?


  45. Jay Randal Says:

    Sue post 39 > the brain-dead sheep are those in the House and Senate who back Bush and Cheney in warmongering! Most who post on TP threads are NOT sheep > we want the chaos,warfare and lies of the vile Bush Regime to END!


  46. Sue Says:

    #38, Get a clue! IMPEACHMENT TAKES TO GODDAMN LONG! WE MUST DEMAND THEY BE ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY AND FROG MARCHED RIGHT OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND OFFICES BY EITHER FBI AND/OR U.S. TROOPS TOO! THAT IS WHY HE/THEY DON’T WANT OUR TROOPS HOME BECAUSE HE KNOWS THEY CAN ARREST THEIR ASSES! NOW HE WANTS TO LET KNOW TERRORISTS MAKE OUR MILITARY HARDWARE OVER IN DUBAI, WHICH IS KNOWN FOR THE ALQUEDA INFILTATRING THEM! THEN, I BELIEVE THEY WILL SABBOTAGE OUR U.S. MILITARY HARDWARE! DEPORT ALL OF THESE ASSHOLES BACK TO ISRAEL AND NOW! DEMAND PNAC GROUP BE ARRESTED FOR TREASON AND NOW! MIKE CHERTOFF HAS DUEL CITIZENSHIP, AS DOES Wolfowitz and George Tenet too has DUEL CITIZENSHIP with Israel and U.S.! WHO’S SIDE ARE THESE TRAITORS ON? WHY MUST WE ALWAYS DO WHAT ISRAEL WANTS? TOO MANY POLITICIANS ARE PUTTING ISRAEL AND SUADI’S FIRST AND NOT AMERICA! THEY ARE LITERALLY DESTROYING AMERICA FROM WITHIN! RUSSIAN MP SAYS U.S. WILL ATTACK IRAN ON MARCH 28TH! WE MUST STOP IT IMMEDIATELY, WHILE BUSH AND OTHERS IN OUR GOV’T ARE IN BED WITH THE REAL TERRORISTS! THE “WAR ON TERRORISM” IS BOGUS PEOPLE! TOTALLY BOGUS AND MEANT TO SUPPRESS PEOPLE’S OF THE WORLD SO RICH AND BIG BUSINESS CAN ENSLAVE EVERYONE ELSE! DEMAND BUSH AND COHORTS BE ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY FOR TREASON AND NOW BEFORE THEY PULL MORE FALSE FLAG ATTACKS ON U.S. AND BLAME AN INNOCENT NATION LIKE IRAN BECAUSE DAMN ISRAEL WANTS US TO BOMB THEM! WAKE THE F*CK UP AMERICA AND NOW! BEFORE THOSE TRAITORS IN WHITE HOUSE AND ELSEWHERE IN OUR GOV’T TOTALLY DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN! AND NOW! DEMAND THEY BE FROG MARCHED RIGHT OUT OF WHITE HOUSE AND THEIR OFFICES BY U.S. TROOPS AND NOW, BEFORE THEY BOMB IRAN AND GET US INTO MORE IMMORAL, ILLEGAL WARS AND SUPPRESS MORE OF OUR FREEDOMS WHILE PUTTING IN THEIR 800 “Detention camps” us protesters and DEMAND IT NOW! THEY ARE IN BED WITH THE REAL TERRORISTS PEOPLE! THE WORLDWIDE “WAR ON TERRORISM” IS BOGUS! JUST MEANT TO SUPPRESS EACH COUNTRIES CITIZENS SO RICH AND BIG BUSINESS CAN GET BY WITH FLEECING IT’S OWN CITIZENS WHILE THEY USE STATE SPONSORED TERRORISM TO MAKE THE PEOPLE AFRAID TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, AND DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS AND CONSTITUTION!
    “Naturally the common people don’t want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY.”

    –Goering at the Nuremberg Trials Stock up and canned food and bottled water and other emergency supplies because look at Katrina! FEMA IS NOT GOING TO HELP OUR ASSES!


  47. koalablue Says:

    Incompetent
    is that all. Stretches english by a long way. i belived it was planned’ they have been able to achieve a lot to a plan and they have stuck to it, i think it is more like a ploy… it is not Incompetence to achieve it but higly motivated and they are still there

    ” you are with us or against us” that is the statement… the plan is working


  48. Sue Says:

    #44 and #46! I know that more attacks are coming if we let those KNOWN terrorists buy our 22 ports and also manufacturing facilities of those military critical parts plants! WHich they will probably sabbotage our military hardware TOO! I am yelling and terribly UPSET because I know WITHOUT a doubt that 9-11 was in INSIDE JOB,with more to come! #46 and others impeachment takes TOO long! And look at the crap they are putting John Conyers thorough because he wants to impeach Bush and cohorts! Bringing up BS stuff, while the REAL traitors are in the W.H. and Pentagon, and elsewhere! I am yelling because I am sooo damn scared for my country now! You people don’t know 1/2 of what I have researched! Do any of you believe 9-11 was an inside job like I totally believe, it was? Do you? I have been saying it now for 4 years! And it was in inside job! Everyday those evil, traitors are in W.H. and elsewhere puts our nation in grave danger and Demand immediately that NO, NO military hardware be made outside the U.S.NONE! Including in Israel nor England either! Now we are buying our bullets for Iraq from Israel, WHY? This totally sucks, as does other military hardware vidal to our security being made ANYWHERE else suck! Stock up on bottled water and canned goods and other emergency supplies and NOW!


  49. the fly-man Says:

    Is Bill Kristol stepping away gracefully from HIS failed planning? Conservatives, always adjusting their principles to fit the times. So is he going to form a conservative political party. I think not, to live in the vacum no air can get in. Vacumesque principles should stay at the comfortable arms distance from operating government, in the academic institutions where they belong. You can’t co-op a political party as the brains and then complain the legs just didn’t work. He has been elected to what office , how many times? Spineless aristocrat.


  50. Jay Randal Says:

    Sue post 49 > Spudge_Boy has posted many pics on TP threads showing that the WTC towers were probably taken down by demolition charges, so that implies an inside conspiracy!
    Calm down and post your comments rationally!


  51. Sue Says:

    Amen, #48 Finally someone who is thinking clearly! They are NOT incompetent but EVERYTHING IS BY DESIGN because they are in bed with KNOWN terrorists, the Dubai port deal helps further prove it! Then read this, Bush invited a KNOWN terrorist to his State of Union speech, whom the 9-11 victims sued in court over involvement in 9-11! Read it and pass on ASAP! Our nation’s security is at stake and our freedoms and our Constitution,too Please read and warn others ASAP too: http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0202-32.htm Tell others to stock up on bottled water and canned food and NOW! And DEMAND CONGRESS STOP A NEEDLESS ATTACK ON IRAN AND NOW! WHILE ALSO DEMANDING IMMEDIATE ARREST OF BUSH, AND EVIL COHORTS FOR TREASON! AND NOW! SPREAD THE WORD QUICKLY AND NOW! DEFEND AMERICA FROM THE DOMESTIC TERRORISTS BUSH,CHENEY,RUMMIE AND CONDI AND OTHERS AND NOW!BE PATRIOTIC AND DEFEND AMERICA FROM OUR CORRUPT, TREASONOUS GOV’T OFFICIALS AND NOW!


  52. Sue Says:

    Jay Randal and others, I CAN’T calm down! I know for a fact that 9-11 was in INSIDE JOB! And that they are planning on bombing innocent Iran, like they bombed innocent Iraq, which they lied to take us to war over! And now they want to sell 22 NOT 6 of our U.S. ports to KNOWN terrorists and also sell manufacturing military production of critical military hardware to KNOWN terrorists! And Israel or at least some of them are)(Zionists) in on it! Look up ZIM shipping company! Or look here: http://judicial-inc.biz/arab_port_deal.htm Bill Kristol has duel citizenship according to this report! As has others! I Googled Israel ties to Dubai port sale and this is what I got! How many more people have DUEL citizenship with Israel and U.S. and WHERE DOES THEIR LOYALTY LIE? WITH U.S. OR ISRAEL? OR SAUDI’S OR CHINA? OUR NATION IS BEING DESTROYED FROM WITHIN BY TRAITORS! IN THE PRESS, AND WHITE HOUSE AND ELSEWHERE! DEFEND AMERICA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC AND NOW! BEFORE THEY TOTALLY DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN, THE SAUDI’S, ZIONISTS AND CHINA AND THOSE IN CONGRESS AND OUR GOV’T WHO SELLING OUR SECURITY OUT TO CHINA, SAUDI’S AND ISRAEL ALL OF THEM! And for God’s sake STOP IMMEDIATELY THE IMMENT, NEEDLESS WAR ON IRAN AND NOW! Now Bush has 800 “detention Camps’ set up for us protesters! NOT for the real terrorists who he/they are in bed with but us protesters! Get a clue,sheep! It is NOT incompetent but by design! They are trying to cover it up so it continues and not stopped! When in reality it is TOTALLY by design! Wake the Hell up and NOW! They are literally destroying America from within!


  53. WiscoDuk Says:

    “They”- the neocons- Got everything they wanted and more than they can handle. Their plan to “seize” power and carry out their “mandate” worked like a charm and their policies continue almost unabated-as we know. The public is starting to say “wait a minute” but their play book is still being followed to a tee.

    This is especially true concerning macroeconomics. Bushes “fuzzy economics” are very much similar to Reagan’s “tinkle down economics”. Put capital into the hands of “the elite” so they can tinkle on the peasants. Problem is…don’t work for long.

    Kristol is THE neocon spokesman. Their concern is in their “conservative” agenda being carried out…little else. Bush as puppet hasn’t worked out very well for them as is obvious. “No- it’s not our stupid policies-it’s the stupid people carrying them out”. Nice hoodwink Bill.

    These are smart folks these neocons. (They even employ things such as “think tanks”.) Isn’t it convenient how Kristol insinuates incompetence while in the same sentence separates conservative from republican. Again- nice hoodwink…but it will probably work.

    Many people will vote for a “conservative” but might have trouble with the term republican…the neocons know that. Their propaganda has already been too effective. Democrat = liberal = the left. Liberals are pro-abortion, for gay marriage, anti-gun, hate Jesus, etc. (Just ask any “conservative” and they’ll tell ya all about it.)

    Democrats have to find a way to diffuse these emotional bombshell issues. I think the neocon game plan is pretty obvious. They can start by exposing it.


  54. Jim Says:

    Sharon; If you read the statute, you may find a lot to hang your hat on with this cabal..www.un.org/law/icc/statute//romefra


  55. Spudge_Boy Says:

    You people don’t know 1/2 of what I have researched!

    I would argue that you don’t know half of what I have researched. I am well aware of the events tied to 9/11. You see, our problem here is that Judd does not let us discuss 9/11. Only right wingers are allowed to bring up 9/11 in the news or on blogs. Because Judd believes that it will bring down the credibility of this site. I think one day, Judd will be proven wrong.


  56. Sue Says:

    WiscoDuk, I am NOT so sure some D’s are NOT in bed with Bush on this crap! In know Bill and Hillary Clinton are in spit of all the protests Hillary does, and also Chuck Schumer who wants Halliburton to run the ports which Bush is trying to broker now as we speak! What does it tell you sheep, when Chuck Schumer thinks it OK that Halliburton who has ripped off not only us taxpayer’s and also innocent Iraqi’s and also our U.S.troops while war profiteering that HE WANTS HALLIBURTON WHO HAS KNOWN TIES TO SUADI’S WHO HAVE KNOWN TIES TO TERRORISTS,WANTS US TO SELL OUR PORTS TO HALLIBURTON, who feed our troops contaminated food and water! DEMAND ALL OUR TROOPS COME HOME AND NOW! TO DEFEND OUR NATION FROM WITHIN FROM REAL TERRORISTS, THE UAE AND SAUDI TERRORISTS AND AMERICA’S DOMESTIC TERRORISTS AND TRAITORS BUSH,CHENEY, RUMMIE AND CONDI AND OTHERS! THEY ARE LYING ABOUT IRAN LIKE THEY LIED ABOUT IRAQ AND JUST WANT TO BOMB IRAN BECAUSE ISRAEL HAS WANTED US TO FOR LONG TIME! STOP LETTING OUR POLITICIANS FROM BOTH PARTIES PUT ISRAEL OR CHINA OR SAUDI’S FIRST AND AMERICA LAST! STOP THE IMPENDING WAR ON IRAN AND NOW! AND STOP BUSH AND CONGRESS FROM MORE SUPRPESS OF OUR FREEDOMS HERE AT HOME! AND NOW!



  57. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Jay Randal and others, I CAN’T calm down!

    Sue,

    All of us are onthe same side. You and I and the rest of the regulars here. But when you type everything in caps and bold it all, it is very difficult to read. I am in marketing. I would never put together an advertisment where the whole thing was bolded caps. nobody would read it. That is all I am saying. I am interested in what you have to say, but it is hard.

    Please calm down. You having a heart attack won’t change a thing. Yelling at the people on your own side won’t change a thing.

    Do we all think there is a huge conspiracy by the NeoCons. Absolutely. It started with their need for a “New Pearl Harbor” So, pull it together and talk to us.


  58. WiscoDuk Says:

    #57

    Sue…you’re preaching to the choir.


  59. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Sue,

    Judd owns this site. He will start deleting your posts if you talk about 9/11 theories. It is his site.

    Stop yelling and read this: UAE Protecting Our Ports?


  60. Marie Says:

    Kristol is a revolting POS.
    In the future he will have to spend some time in a sanitarium; his brain is being overwhelmed from all the defenses and explanations he’s had to concoct in the face of reality.
    Like Graham and King from yesterday’s threads, Kristol is a neocon, a Bush-lover, a dyed in the wool conservative, an intellectual who can pass the test on paper, but hasn’t a clue about how things work in the field.
    His boy is a loser, and it’s going to take some time for Kristol to get his proper defenses in order, while preserving his own credibility (which actually evaporated long ago).


  61. Marie Says:

    Sue, Listen to Spudge Boy. He is right. We all agree. We are all friends here — but your posts are so hard to read.


  62. Hardy Haberman Says:

    Kristol is just like the other Republican sacks-o-s&%t, Now he dosen’t like the Bushistas..

    Reminds me of the Nazi’s who later claimed they were never supporters of Hitler.

    Sue is right, loud, but absolutely right!


  63. Theresa Says:

    I wonder when it comes to the CON-servatives an republiCONs how many times do they have to be hit with a brick before they say OUCH!

    They are scrambling now because of 2006 elections. Gov. Mitt Romney the other day had said something to the effect that Bush is incompetant. When a year ago he was backing Bush. MY my how elections change everything.

    Our Commander and Thief said during the state of the union that we are addicted to oil. WELL DAH!! Didn’t Jimmy Carter say that back in 1978.

    Yeah! they are running like mice now! Scurring every which way, got to save their jobs.

    What a bunch of hypocrites!



  64. Mike Says:

    Shorter Bill Kristol - My plan was brilliant, but Bush screwed it up. When Sam Brownback is president we can do it right in Iran.


  65. Gerald Gibson Says:

    Hey conservatives… if you take your egos down a notch you would have heard from the rest of us along time ago that this administration is incompetent…. Why dont you look at team work and stop thinking you are “all that” … or go read Sun Tsu “The Art of War” … He with the best moral backing from his people is in a position of strength… is having HALF or LESS of your people on your side a sign of strength???


  66. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #39 - Sue, a Prozac might be just what the doctor ordered - or a lobotomy. (I stopped reading your rant at “9/11 was an inside job”.)


  67. mr ho Says:

    Naw hes probably just gonna go join his pal fukuyama over at American Interest and spout the same rhetoric. Again.

    The picture is quite amusing in, and mostly of, itself. I guess now that he’s call the Bush Admin Incompetent he’s also calling Rove Incompetent?

    Flop Flip Flop


  68. mr ho Says:

    #39 - Sue, a Prozac might be just what the doctor ordered - or a lobotomy. (I stopped reading your rant at “9/11 was an inside job”.)

    Comment by mighty aphrodite — March 5, 2006 @ 2:52 pm

    How Clever. People stopped reading your ‘Medical’ and ‘Political’ evaluations long ago Dr Fist. err Maphrodite.


  69. mr ho Says:

    Kristol looks as if he has a wedgy…


  70. Coreesa Says:

    Billy Kristol’s plan, of course, was thwarted by underestimating the stoopidity of Bush and his Texas manner of mafiaism. They projected to PNAC an image of intelligence. Key word “projected”. The imagery is fading, and faster than any could imagine. Their hoped for world domination was just not accepted by the WORLD. They just never “thunk it”. The World doesn’t like it, and it won’t go quietly or gently.

    And guess who else is “kind of upset” about OUR COUNTRY being given away in hunks and chunks. They think they can just dole out OUR national treasures, our jobs, our forests, land, and ports, companies … just handed over without our knowledge, and they actually think they can now do it “in our face”… and we’ll like it??!!!

    Well, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!!!!

    REMEMBER NEW ORLEANS!!!


  71. mighty aphrodite Says:

    Oh gentle, liberal progressives let Sue rant, rage and shout all she wants. Maybe the poor girl needs an avenue to vent her fears and frustrations and “yelling” in this place sure beats kicking the dog or burning down the house. The poor thing sees a conspiracy “by design” aroung every curve and a dastardly Zionist peering from the bushes - no pun intended. Maybe for once, TP can be therapeudic… you go (!) Sue!!!!


  72. Bat Guano Says:

    Sue is an inside job…

    I think 1: They do very well at some things. Like grabbing power and winning elections.

    2: They are idiots at other things, like the basic operations of the government.

    3: Conservatives and Republicans are going to try desperately to separate the incompetent Bush with the conservative, neo-conservative, right-wing freak and other ideologies. “It’s not the fault of our VALUES… Bush really IS an idiot!!!”


  73. Coreesa Says:

    TROLL-LA-LA to “Mighty Aphrodite”

    I Feeeeeeel A Song comin’ on!


  74. James1108 Says:

    There is something really really bad going on, you can sense it - we are losing the life-rafts of our democracy, there will be no survivors (except the most wealthy 2%)…we will ALL be slaves to the elite-controlled State!!


  75. Coreesa Says:

    James1108, we’re already their slaves, but we don’t worship them.

    Their goal must be something a bit different, but not much different. Seems someone elses vision of himself, as “King George” just ain’t their real goal here.

    Who do you think they want to step up to the throne?


  76. Coreesa Says:

    Neocon philosophy is being discussed by Fukuyama (Sp) by Maury and Connie on CNN right now. How they think pre-emptive strike on Iraq was wrong thing to do is topic.


  77. GoDrex.com » Blog Archive » Incompetent eh? Says:

    […] Think Progress » Kristol: Conservatives Believe The Bush Administration Is Incompetent […]


  78. Marie Says:

    Mighty Aphrodite
    I don’t think anyone here cares which posts you read, or what you think of them.


  79. Lily Says:

    9/11 an inside job? Yes, it sounds like a paranoid, dillusional, crack-pot opinion. But I, too have read enough on the subject not to dismiss it out of hand. Iraq was set to convert to Euros as the official currency for trading in oil. If this happened, the US dollar in the global market would drop lower than GWB’s approval rating. Iran is scheduled to convert oil sales from US dollars to Euros this month. If it goes through smoothly as planned, I’ll revise my view of 9/11.


  80. Sue Says:

    mighty aphrodite, Get a clue, morons, Bush, Cheney and others in our gov’t were behind 9-11 and his sale to KNOWN TERRORISTS HELPS PROVE IT! He/they are planning on selling NOT 6 but 22 of our U.S. ports to KNOWN terrorists you morons! And also planning on selling two manufacturing facilities that make critical hardware for our Air Force and tank engines also! You dumb asses! About a year ago Israel told U.S they wanted us to bomb Iran! WHY IN HELL must WE DO EVERYTHING ISRAEL SAYS? I am SICK of it! Then Bush erodes are freedoms daily and is now trying to jail reports for doing their jobs! Which he/they don’t want info out to public! GET A CLUE,SHEEP BUSH AND OTHERS NEEDS ARRESTING IMMEDIATELY FOR TREASON, WAR CRIMES AND WAR PROFITEERING! AND NOW! And right on James1108, they are building “detention camps” for us protesters while we speak! STAND UP AND DEFEND AMERICA FROM HER ENEMIES FROM WITHIN, BUSH AND COHORTS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA FROM WITHIN,IT IS THE NEW WORLD ORDER! Demand Congress STOP immediately the sale of those ports and also stop the sale of military hardware anywhere overseas, including in Israel and England and UAE too! http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0202-32.htm,http://www.commondreams.org/ views06/ 0202-32.htm,http:/ / news.bbc.co.uk/ 1/ hi/ business/ 4768378.stm GET A CLUE SHEEP! BUSH AND COHORTS ARE LITERALLY DESTROYING AMERICA FROM WITHIN WITH HELP FROM PEOPLE IN BOTH PARTIES AND ALSO HE AND OTHERS ARE IN BED WITH THE REAL TERRORISTS FROM UAE AND BIN LADEN AND ALQUEDA,TOO! THE DUBAI PORTS HELPS FURTHER PROVE IT!





  81. Lily Says:

    Oops! On #82, I meant to say I’ve read too much to dismiss it out of hand. Not to not dismiss it….or something. Anyway, if there’s no attack and we don’t invade Iran, then maybe I’d be less inclined to think 9/11 was an inside job.


  82. skip Says:

    The incompetence of the Bush Administration was first made manifest when it began listening to this smiling puppy. And now he has the temerity to say that it didn’t work because they didn’t listen hard enough.

    It suggests the question as to what it would take to bring Kristol back to some semblance of reality.


  83. liberal elite Says:

    If Kristol had a shred of objectivity and decency in his mind and heart he would admit that Cons such as himself are not only incompetent but ignorant.

    They’re so caught up in their power-mad schemes that they only speak for a tiny fraction of Americans, while the majority of the people are more and more sickened by Kristol & Co.’s pontificating in front of the cameras.

    Every time people like him, Bob Novak, Sean Hannity and the others open their mouths they should get shouted down and booed off the stage by a chorus of sensible people telling them to shut up and get to work building America’s future.


  84. Jeffrey Stewart Says:

    How could anyone expect anything else from the ne’er do well, schleprock president? He has been a failure all his life and everything he touches turns to crap!

    I’d love to knock the smirk right off of Kristol’s face. All he wants is a more human/competent face for inhuman policies.


  85. kindness Says:

    Any “successes” held by this administrations actions have wholly been linked to greed at some or a multitude of levels for each deal. They only care about the power of position in being able to use it to generate and sheild huge revenues.

    It’s always about the money with some folks.


  86. Quick Question Says:

    Does anyone have the transcript, of the entire panel discussion on FNS, or know where I can find a clip? I’m writing a paper about Katrina and it would be helpful. Thanx!


  87. Bush Bites Says:

    “Incompetence” being charged by Dan Quayle’s former chief of staff….I love it.

    In truth, the Neocons know they screwed up big time on Iraq (Wolfowitz has lately made some negative comments about the “adminstration” of Iraq too), and they want to pin it on Bush, who’s stupid enough to let it happen.

    If it wasn’t so tragic for our soliders and the Iraqi civilians, it would be funny. They hijack his administration, lead him down the path to war with Iraq, and when it doesn’t work out, they bail out and blame him.

    A bunch of criminals leading an idiot around by the nose.


  88. Sue Says:

    #88 and others! IT IS NOT INCOMPETENT DUMB ASSES BUT BY DESIGN! How much BUSHIT must he/they do before you braindead dumb asses get a clue that HE/THEY ARE NOT “INCOMPETENT” BUT ARE TRAITORS AND ALL OF THIS IS BY DESIGN AND ON PURPOSE! They and their evil PNAC group just want to avoid being hanged or shot for TREASON, WAR CRIMINALS AND WARPROFITEERING! He/They are GODDAMN NOT INCOMPETENT FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME! BUT BY DESIGN AND ON PURPOSE!


  89. Sue Says:

    #93 and others, Get a damn f*cking clue! Bush is NOT an idiot, you people and the rest of America ARE who are making him into the dictator he wants to be! They, the PNAC group is NOT leading him innocently around by the nose, dumb asses, HE IS IN BED WITH KNOWN TERRORISTS AND HE IS NOT INNOCENT OF ANY OF THIS BUSHIT! They have NOT “highjacked” the Fueher’s Adminstration either! IT IS HIM AND THEM BOTH IN BED TOGETHER WITH KNOWN TERRORISTS MORONIC SHEEP! STOP LETTING BUSH OFF THE HOOK! HE ONLY ACTS LIKE AN IDIOT TO KEEP GETTING BY WITH THE BUSHIT HE DOES! HE IS RIGHT IN THERE PEOPLE WITH REST OF EVIL PNAC GROUP! So STOP letting the lying,murdering, S.O.B off the hook and demand his/their immediate arrest for TREASON,CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND WAR PROFITEERING TOO!


  90. WaltTheMan Says:

    #83 - Sue,
    YOUR posts lose efectiveness WHEN YOU shift from boldness and CAPS to straight text.



  91. Sue Says:

    #96 and just how should I type? Stop worrying about my bold and Caps and worry about America, our freedoms and our LIVES! And demand tomorrow that Bush,Cheney, Rummie and Condi be arrested for treason, war profiteering and war crimes and NOW, before they bomb more innocent people in Iran and jail reporters, too!





  92. WaltTheMan Says:

    Sue,
    Deliver your message in straight text. Underline if you desire to emphasize. I’m 65 and have problems shifting from different text styles if they are used for purposes other than emphasis. It is like shifting from English to Arabic: one time you are reading from left to right and next you are reading from right to left. Hebrew is a problem as the character set is entirely bold face.


  93. WaltTheMan Says:

    By the bye, our granddaughter is well-trained. Whenever W appears on the tube, she chants either “bad man” or “You killed Bambi’s mother, my heart is broken”. She’ll be 5 in late May. How far behind in their edumacation are the neocons?


  94. Tamara Says:

    LOL I called this war a flop started with lies before it even started. I used to be stationed @ Andrews AFB Wash DC. I saw lies in the first one that were never told to the public (alot of them did surface) but this pack of lies, blunders and the incopentence of this administration is one of GALACTIC PROPORTIONS.
    Watch and wait… China is playing us like a fiddle. They are not the worlds oldest civilization for nothing. In the game of chess, patience, forethought and cunning is everything… Only a few more moves until the US is in check (seen this coming for about 10 years).


  95. Jay Randal Says:

    Keep up the hard-hitting comments on the vile Bush Regime!


  96. Bruce Gorton Says:

    First off:

    9/11 wasn’t set up or planned in the Whitehouse, but it was allowed to happen. Sort of like Pearl Harbour wasn’t set up or planned in the Whitehouse but was allowed to happen. (Go look up the history.) The difference lies in the why. With Pearl Harbour, it was ultimately to correct America’s economy and get it out of the Great Depression.

    With 9/11 it was either because Bush is a complete idiot, or because he knew what effect it would have on the voters. Personally, if I was an American I would see the idiocy argument as being far, far more frightening then the Bush is evil argument, evil people can change for the better, stupid people only change for the worse.

    The UAE ports deal, will go through. It will be a travesty of American security, it will lead to another terrorist attack, and it may even lead to American ports being used more extensively in the transport of slaves, but it will go through.

    Of course I am sure America feels slavery is okay now that this is a war situation and civilisation doesn’t actually imply civilised behaviour. Things like protecting Human Rights is for when it is easy to do, not when they need protecting. (See: Torture, Gitmo the Terrorist Farm, Iraq, The Right To Privacy etc…)

    Bush stuck the to neo-con bullshit in his policy making, has done everything that the neo-cons voted for, and it has been a unmitigated distaster. I do not believe it was because he is evil, but because he is stupid, and his idealogy is basically lacking in common sense.

    My take is when history looks at GW on a holistic aproach they will stick a pin in 2000 as the year when America’s empire started to end. Whether it is due to him being evil, or stupid will be up to the ego of the historians. What Bush has done in these last few terms will have lasting consequences because you will need someone who can run the country in office next, but both major parties are going to go for someone they feel can win the election. You need competent management to correct the last few years, instead you are going to get competent marketing.


  97. Welcome to Elastic Heart™ » Blog Archive » Says:

    […] Conservatives Believe The Bush Administration Is Incompetent. […]


  98. ReidBlog Says:

    John and Judd and Dick and Jack…

    Bush afficionado John Hinderaker of Powerline (who never met a Bush policy he didn’t love) is fighting a two-front war……


  99. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #103 - “By the bye, our granddaughter is well-trained. Whenever W appears on the tube, she chants either “bad man” or “You killed Bambi’s mother, my heart is broken”. She’ll be 5 in late May. How far behind in their edumacation are the neocons?” - WalttheMan
    ******Poor little dear - sounds like that poor little girl has been subjected to relentless child abuse. But what can you expect from Neo-progs????


  100. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #106 - “9/11 wasn’t set up or planned in the Whitehouse, but it was allowed to happen.” Bruce “Stretch” Gorton
    *****Bruce, I see your “point”. So GWB didn’t exactly have a direct hand in the events of 9/11?? Knowing that the Clinton administration warned the incoming administration about the Al Quaeda air threat, I think the entire catastrophe could have been averted if EVERY SINGLE airplane in US airspace were grounded after 01/22/01. Your thoughts?


  101. dogmouse Says:

    Sue,

    Please stop YELLING, and stop calling me a moron. You dont even know me, and it is getting annoying when trying read your posts. Lighten up, Sister.


  102. dogmouse Says:

    Question:

    Why did Chimpy McFlightsuit just sit there with that stupid look on his face after Andrew Card whispered to him that America was under attack?

    It just does not make sense at all, unless he was either in on it.


  103. Lora Says:

    So GWB didn’t exactly have a direct hand in the events of 9/11?? Knowing that the Clinton administration warned the incoming administration about the Al Quaeda air threat, I think the entire catastrophe could have been averted if EVERY SINGLE airplane in US airspace were grounded after 01/22/01. Your thoughts?

    Comment by mighty aphrodite — March 6, 2006 @ 2:46

    Mighty Hypocrite,
    So you’re back at the grounding every single airplane after 01/22/01 chestnut again, eh? While it is true that outgoing Clinton security advisor Sandy Berger warned Condi about Al Qaeda, the report titled “Bin Ladin Determined to Attack in the US” and the reports from FBI agents about the suspicious number of Arabs enrolled in US flight schools just wanting to learn how to fly–not to land came over the summer of 2001, just when Dumbya chose not to interrupt his long summer vacation. Besides, I’m sure a government truly interested in national security could have taken steps other than grounding all flights. Give up that chestnut, Mighty dear; it’s rather trite.


  104. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #112 - Doghouse - I know Gore would have jumped up from a chair in the midst of a classroom full of second graders and brandished a sword, a rocket launcher AND a camera. After that he would have leapt tall buildings in a single bound - of course, he would have planted a well-timed lip-lock on Tipper and taken her breath away BEFORE he leapt the tall building.


  105. WaltTheMan Says:

    #109 - ma,
    Actually, the dear enjoys a privileged life - goes to preschool, lives in a community with a park (including swimming pool and playground) directly outside her back yard and earns more as a child model than most engineers do at engineering. She vacations at Cape Cod, Puerto Rico and Florida every year for about one week (sometimes two) per slice. Whenever she arrives at a beach, she says, “Hello ocean , ****** is back.” She also does an excellent Judy Garland impersonation on her Karaoke machine.


  106. Lora Says:

    #114 Mighty Hypocrite,
    Is the only defense you can offer now for our Liar-in-Chief’s choice to cut brush on his Crawford ranch rather than pay attention to FBI reports and other warnings during August 2001 about a likely attack on US soil and his decision to keep on reading the goat book even after told about the attacks on the World Trade Center a not particularly cute putdown of Al Gore? Pathetic!
    I–and probably most other people using this site–believe that Al Gore would have paid attention to the ample warnings, just as he has had the foresight to recognize various impending environmental problems–something confirmed by most scientists and even some conservatives nowadays but still denied by the Busheviks.


  107. Kristol: Conservatives Believe The Bush Administration Is …Think - Emblem Links Says:

    […] Kristol: Conservatives Believe The Bush Administration Is …Think Progress, DC - Mar 5, 2006BILL KRISTOL: I think it s become in people s minds an emblem of the administration that just isn t as serious about the competent execution of the … […]


  108. joseph bell Says:

    BUSH IS THE BIGGEST VENTROLIQUIST DUMMY THAT HAS EVER LIVED :HE AND HIS HAVE BROUGHT THIS COUNTRY DOWN TO THE LOWEST DEMONITOR ; AND CHENY ,LICE,ROVEY,LEIBOWTLIPS,FEITE,TO NAME A FW ;WHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS NOW,,,, DROP THE BOMB ON THEM


  109. Mission Impeachable Says:

    […] The Weekly Standard Editor Bill Kristol says that conservatives have come to believe the Bush administration is incompetent. […]


  110. Vanna LaRoche Says:

    Incompetent? Managing to strip American workers of their pensions, health care, tax dollars, and transfer wealth to the wealthy? Managing to stack the Supreme Court in your favor? Able to leap tall tales in a single bound, and not hear a peep from the Democrats? Able to get stories that promote only your side slathered all over the MSM? Establish a heavy footprint in a Middle Eastern country with lots of oil, and terrorize the American public regularly with scare stories of Osama and Saddam and Nuclear Iran?

    Come on. The “incompetence” meme only works if you EVER thought that good governance in the best interests of the American people was EVER on BushCo’s agenda. It never was, it never will be, and there the “incompetence” canard disappears in a whiff. They’re VERY competent at everything they’ve achieved so far–it’s just that none of it does anyone but BushCo and Friends of BushCo any good.


  111. IVAN Says:

    I AM TIRED OF THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY BEING RUNNED BY A FOOL,IDIOT ,I VOTED FOR CARY EVEN THOUGH I DIDNT LIKE HIM BUT BUSH WON WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET A MESSED UP GOVNT THAT DOESNT KNOW WHAT THERE DOING .WE NEED TO IMPEECH THIS POOR ESCUSE OF A PRESIDENT.WE TOOK SADDAM OUT IT IS WORSE THAN EVEROVER THERE , WHAT IS GOING ON WHY IS THIS COUNRTY NOT STANDING UP TO THIS EMBARRESMENT TO THE WORLD.WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO IMPEECH THIS MORON,THINGS ARE GOOD IN IRAQ HE SAID ,THE MAN IS LOST,OR ON CRACK WHICH ONE .


  112. BILL HUFF Says:

    For those of us who were drafted and sent to Vietnam, and who served every minute
    of our enlistment, we are not surprised by the level of incompetance of the draft dodgers who are in political control of our military. America does not need a John Wayne, “Bring it on”, we need a Harry Truman or Dwight Eisonhower. It is little wonderwhyoseofuswho did our duty in a war far from home, absolutely hate Bush, Frist, Hastert, Delay, and the whole lying, cheating, bunch of draft dodgers who
    have taken this country back 20 years. I will not live long enough to see my country
    prosper as it once did before Bush. Please bring back Cllinton, sexual descretions and all. Better yet give Bush and Cheney what they so richly deserve, impeachment.

    Bush and Cheney are cowards. They showed what they were made during the Vietnam
    war.


  113. Tom Zuzelo Says:

    The immigration bill was 500 pages long for the purpose of hiding loop holes to allow all the people here to stay here.
    These loopholes were hidden deep within the bowels of the bill and every body knows that when you go deep into the bowels all you get is stink, exactly what this bill did…
    STINK
    This was a sham that was going to be perpertraited on the american public.
    Second point I would like to make is that I saw the junior senator from my state John the flip flop Kerry on the television today saying that its not a good idea for the pentagon to be making contingency plans for an attack on Iran. All I can say is it is a good thing he wasnt the president during the cold war or we wouldnt make plans against the russians until after they attacked. What an idiot…..
    Keep telling the truth to the thinking american public………


  114. revision99 » Blog Archive » Bullsh*t Alert Says:

    […] The Republicans are getting indicted right and left, and voters are disgusted with their corruption. The Bush Administration has been exposed over and over again as incompetent, from their bumbling Iraq war “strategy” to their inept response to Hurricane Katrina. Republican members of congress up for reelection are running for the hills, the White House staff is getting the hell out of town and President Bush, who claims he pays no attention to opinion polls, surely must be aware that opinion polls are saying that two out of three people have a very low opinion of his performance in office, even as regards his only strong suit, blasting the living daylights out of other countries. What’s a committed right-wing Christian fundamentalist neocon puppet president to do? […]


  115. Republican Social Theatre » Hallelujah , Brother Bill has returned to the fold! Says:

    […] Last March it seemed that Bill Kristol a.k.a. Big BK a.k.a. the Whopper had lost his way.  On Fox News, he had this to say of the President: I think it’s become in people’s minds an emblem of the administration that just isn’t as serious about the competent execution of the functions of government as it should be. […]


  116. Sam Osborne Says:

    “Incompetent” is the word most used when increasing numbers of Americans are asked to describe President Bush. This Pew Research finding is not surprising considering Bush’s leadership failures.

    He has been unable to motivate his administration or anyone else to get things done. Even when he passes off his responsibility onto others, be it business, local government or foreign lands, he fails in using the bully pulpit to inspire others to make things happen.

    This failure at the helm stands in contrast to other presidents that have with few words inspired others to undertake even arduous personal tasks of minimal import to the nation. To wit, back in 1963 President John F. Kennedy jocularly suggested that his chubby press secretary, Pierre Salinger, demonstrate the physical fitness of the White House staff by walking fifty miles in twenty hours.

    By Monday following JFK’s offhand remark, thousands of Americans picked up the challenge and were off and walking. When European television showed images of these marchers, a walking craze swept Europe and on as far as Japan. To this day there is an annual Kennedy March in Sittard, Netherlands.

    In a more serious matter of later times, lest we forget President Ronald Reagan’s motivating words to one of this nation’s most intractable enemies: “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!” And he did.

    Of course, those were the days of men who successfully changed the tenor of their times; in these, Bush apologists fudge the times in diminution of the man’s inadequacies.


  117. Ed Gant Says:

    With the American electorate so totally disgusted with George W. Bush’s incompetent leadership on matters both at home and abroad, and maybe even from outer space, Carl Rove’s new propaganda tactic seems to be: Hey, this administration and Republican Congress has screwed things up so badly that you don’t dare turn the mess over to anyone else.

    By the way, is the Bush manned mission to Mars back yet - and will the Martians also benefit from Bush’s Social Security reform, his reconstructive improvements in New Orleans and Bagdad, the mission accomplished, and … ah?

    Hey, so the guy has had a bit of bad luck. But as President Harry Truman once asked the American people: “How many times do you have to get hit on the head with a hammer before you ask who is hitting you?”

    It is time to give Bush and the boys in the backroom the answer: a boot in the butt.


  118. Sam Osborne Says:

    We can greatly admire those from among us that step into harm’s way in defense of all of the rest of us.

    We need not admire those that twist support for our brave troops to justify their questionable actions and judgment—particularly when what is proposed and excused mires our service men and women in a place of grave danger.

    These magnificent members of our military stand and fight and do not hide behind anyone; the man that has sent them there should not try to hide behind them.

    How long will George W. Bush try to conceal his misjudgment behind their valiant service? In his State of the Union, he claimed we cannot fail in Iraq. The fact is that Bush already has. His war in Iraq is a failure and the task we now face it to pick up the pieces as best we can.

    The failure is not that of our troops; it is that of a man who has misused their valor, dedication to duty, and precious lives. The failure is also that of those that are still willing to tolerate his disgracefully incompetent leadership.

    All distortions that attempt to mask the horror that is Iraq will not change what is obvious; we have an incredibly incompetent president backed by a straggling band of sycophants. This man can only lead sheep–may his dwindling flock of followers have a nice bah, bah, bah.



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