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	<title>Comments on: Murtha: The &#8216;Only People Who Want Us in Iraq&#8217; are Iran, al Qaeda, and China</title>
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		<title>By: malk</title>
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		<dc:creator>malk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi iam malk abdle form libya i need holp  i need work  iam age:28  no wieF no any tink  no room no car no no plaese i need holp if you really  dont  mind well  thanks amillion ifeel bad borrowing  you  got  one that will do two months no work plaese. thnk you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi iam malk abdle form libya i need holp  i need work  iam age:28  no wieF no any tink  no room no car no no plaese i need holp if you really  dont  mind well  thanks amillion ifeel bad borrowing  you  got  one that will do two months no work plaese. thnk you<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1714448', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: a shade of reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>a shade of reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 18:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect John Murtha for his military service and his many years of public service to the nation.
HOWEVER,
He has gone overboard and is way off course with very little understanding of whats going on in Iraq from a troops standpoint.
The war on terror in Iraq is going fine and we are winning, make no mistake about it. Unless of course you call some nutjob planting a bomb in a public place while innocents wander by into its path a victory. 
Its not only cowardly but its wearing thin with the Iraqi people as they start to realize the &#039;insurgents&#039; arent fighting the US, they are fighting peace and democracy.

And Murthas recent comments accusing American marines of cold blooded Murder of innocent women and children will be his final rant.
he has brought his own tenure to its timely end, and not a moment too soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect John Murtha for his military service and his many years of public service to the nation.<br />
HOWEVER,<br />
He has gone overboard and is way off course with very little understanding of whats going on in Iraq from a troops standpoint.<br />
The war on terror in Iraq is going fine and we are winning, make no mistake about it. Unless of course you call some nutjob planting a bomb in a public place while innocents wander by into its path a victory.<br />
Its not only cowardly but its wearing thin with the Iraqi people as they start to realize the &#8216;insurgents&#8217; arent fighting the US, they are fighting peace and democracy.</p>
<p>And Murthas recent comments accusing American marines of cold blooded Murder of innocent women and children will be his final rant.<br />
he has brought his own tenure to its timely end, and not a moment too soon.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=562070', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Back from Iraq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Back from Iraq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep up the good work, Murtha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the good work, Murtha!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=473008', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$300 billion is a hell of a lot of money, its ridiculous. And its growing every minute. That is why I say that peaceful protesting and non-violence might be too little too late.
Murtha is the guy who walks the talk. If he has lost his mind, well at least he would still be better off guarding the asylum than staying in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$300 billion is a hell of a lot of money, its ridiculous. And its growing every minute. That is why I say that peaceful protesting and non-violence might be too little too late.<br />
Murtha is the guy who walks the talk. If he has lost his mind, well at least he would still be better off guarding the asylum than staying in it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=469814', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dispepticSkeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>dispepticSkeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s say that the minor, indirect link between Saddam and Al Q. is fact. It is clear that there was no love lost between them, and Saddam was not a major contributor/influence. Otherwise, there would be more than one or two oblique bits of evidence.

The important thing (and it surprises me that the &quot;smartest man alive&quot; isn&#039;t the first to say this), is that we are spending substantially more on swatting this gnat than we are on ALL other anti-terror efforts combined. As far as effectiveness goes, we did much more damage to Al Q. in a month in Afghanistan than we have in years of fighting in Iraq. Everyone agrees that most of our effort in Iraq is spent dealing with Iraqi-centric sectarian issues, and some small percentage of global terrorists. The question isn&#039;t whether we are making ANY impact on terrorism in Iraq, it is how terribly small that impact is vs. the expense. The so called conservatives love to talk about spending efficiency. I would like to hear them reconcile this $300 BILLION and counting price tag to vanquish a tiny Iraqi threat, when most other fronts are in serious state of neglect.

OK, I can&#039;t help but address the slandering of Murtha on this issue. All this guy is saying is that on the face of it we are squandering resources desperately needed elsewhere to do the real work. This is a man who, unlike ANYONE in the administration, has actually risked his life for his country. Not only has he gone when asked, he VOLUNTEERS when the fighting starts! Not to get a scholarship, and then, &quot;bummer i have to fight&quot;. But volunteers BECAUSE there is fighting. It makes clear how callow the conservative support for bravery and honor is, when they attack a man like this as a traitor, communist etc. To the degree that others inthe Republican party allow this, they are a disgrace to everythiing America stands for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s say that the minor, indirect link between Saddam and Al Q. is fact. It is clear that there was no love lost between them, and Saddam was not a major contributor/influence. Otherwise, there would be more than one or two oblique bits of evidence.</p>
<p>The important thing (and it surprises me that the &#8220;smartest man alive&#8221; isn&#8217;t the first to say this), is that we are spending substantially more on swatting this gnat than we are on ALL other anti-terror efforts combined. As far as effectiveness goes, we did much more damage to Al Q. in a month in Afghanistan than we have in years of fighting in Iraq. Everyone agrees that most of our effort in Iraq is spent dealing with Iraqi-centric sectarian issues, and some small percentage of global terrorists. The question isn&#8217;t whether we are making ANY impact on terrorism in Iraq, it is how terribly small that impact is vs. the expense. The so called conservatives love to talk about spending efficiency. I would like to hear them reconcile this $300 BILLION and counting price tag to vanquish a tiny Iraqi threat, when most other fronts are in serious state of neglect.</p>
<p>OK, I can&#8217;t help but address the slandering of Murtha on this issue. All this guy is saying is that on the face of it we are squandering resources desperately needed elsewhere to do the real work. This is a man who, unlike ANYONE in the administration, has actually risked his life for his country. Not only has he gone when asked, he VOLUNTEERS when the fighting starts! Not to get a scholarship, and then, &#8220;bummer i have to fight&#8221;. But volunteers BECAUSE there is fighting. It makes clear how callow the conservative support for bravery and honor is, when they attack a man like this as a traitor, communist etc. To the degree that others inthe Republican party allow this, they are a disgrace to everythiing America stands for.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=469081', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replying to WaltTheMan,

Unfortunately, just like the unforseen style of attack i.e. crashing buildings with planes; you guys didn&#039;t see it coming. 
Someone needs to carry around some real hard bitter medicine to throw at the problem now. I admit not having a decent clue of how this &#039;hard bitter medicine&#039; should be like. Damn.

Maybe I do. I have fantasized before of the entire population and army doing what the Romanians did against Nikolai Ceaucesceu and his megalomania. This happens because the elections were rigged until the leader gets a third term. Patience steps over breaking point.

Imagine Abrams tanks with their guns aimed at the White House. Then when the deposed leaders try to escape from the White house by helicopter, an Apache blows them out of the sky, ending the bullshit. Pwnage. Not only that, Americans filled with righteous anger drag out the likes of Rush and beat them up while Abrams use their weight and guns and demolish news stations that have, as you guys have said before, drunk &quot;Republican Kool Aid&quot;.

That was my imagination running wild. Hope you guys don&#039;t let it come to that point, lol. A lot of innocent people would die in the violence. For this one time let the &#039;democratic&#039; process be really democratic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replying to WaltTheMan,</p>
<p>Unfortunately, just like the unforseen style of attack i.e. crashing buildings with planes; you guys didn&#8217;t see it coming.<br />
Someone needs to carry around some real hard bitter medicine to throw at the problem now. I admit not having a decent clue of how this &#8216;hard bitter medicine&#8217; should be like. Damn.</p>
<p>Maybe I do. I have fantasized before of the entire population and army doing what the Romanians did against Nikolai Ceaucesceu and his megalomania. This happens because the elections were rigged until the leader gets a third term. Patience steps over breaking point.</p>
<p>Imagine Abrams tanks with their guns aimed at the White House. Then when the deposed leaders try to escape from the White house by helicopter, an Apache blows them out of the sky, ending the bullshit. Pwnage. Not only that, Americans filled with righteous anger drag out the likes of Rush and beat them up while Abrams use their weight and guns and demolish news stations that have, as you guys have said before, drunk &#8220;Republican Kool Aid&#8221;.</p>
<p>That was my imagination running wild. Hope you guys don&#8217;t let it come to that point, lol. A lot of innocent people would die in the violence. For this one time let the &#8216;democratic&#8217; process be really democratic.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=468628', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is why as a Southeast Asian I feel we have good reason to worry about China. They could become the next Japanese of WW2 in modern times once they realise they got a lot of power but lack of military adventures.

Your country rescued us by forcing the Japs to take it up in the asses hard with two nukes. Given the Japanese refusal to apologise even today for their savage war crimes unlike Germany, reminds us we have a lot to owe to your country for. Even your &#039;wasted&#039; involvement in Vietnam actually kept the commies busy so by the time they could try spreading their bullshit to Thailand and the rest of the region, USSR couldn&#039;t support them by then.

It is indeed sad that our &#039;hero&#039; is now rendering itself incapable to do the same thing, should China do the same as what the Japs did in WW2 by, as Murtha says, draining all its resources. 
And just because China suffered terribly in terms of the Rape of Nanking and other horrors under the Japs, doesn&#039;t mean they will not resort to their own brand of savagery when they conquer this region.

That was why when I heard there were no WMDs, I thought, &#039;Shit, GTFO of there fast once you get Saddam, GTFO before Iraq becomes your quagmire man.&#039;

As you can imagine I have been left disappointed as the casualties rise, the IEDs now have armour piercing power, and those who did fight are not getting their veteran benefits.

Its too bad I am non-American otherwise I would have signed up to the military to REBUILD it fast once you guys can clear out the shit in the White House. I wish you guys best of luck in those (GOP/congressional or whatever)elections this 2006.

The idea of Americans doing domestic chores for the Chinese is something that should not be allowed to come to reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is why as a Southeast Asian I feel we have good reason to worry about China. They could become the next Japanese of WW2 in modern times once they realise they got a lot of power but lack of military adventures.</p>
<p>Your country rescued us by forcing the Japs to take it up in the asses hard with two nukes. Given the Japanese refusal to apologise even today for their savage war crimes unlike Germany, reminds us we have a lot to owe to your country for. Even your &#8216;wasted&#8217; involvement in Vietnam actually kept the commies busy so by the time they could try spreading their bullshit to Thailand and the rest of the region, USSR couldn&#8217;t support them by then.</p>
<p>It is indeed sad that our &#8216;hero&#8217; is now rendering itself incapable to do the same thing, should China do the same as what the Japs did in WW2 by, as Murtha says, draining all its resources.<br />
And just because China suffered terribly in terms of the Rape of Nanking and other horrors under the Japs, doesn&#8217;t mean they will not resort to their own brand of savagery when they conquer this region.</p>
<p>That was why when I heard there were no WMDs, I thought, &#8216;Shit, GTFO of there fast once you get Saddam, GTFO before Iraq becomes your quagmire man.&#8217;</p>
<p>As you can imagine I have been left disappointed as the casualties rise, the IEDs now have armour piercing power, and those who did fight are not getting their veteran benefits.</p>
<p>Its too bad I am non-American otherwise I would have signed up to the military to REBUILD it fast once you guys can clear out the shit in the White House. I wish you guys best of luck in those (GOP/congressional or whatever)elections this 2006.</p>
<p>The idea of Americans doing domestic chores for the Chinese is something that should not be allowed to come to reality.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=468592', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Queer Planet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queer Planet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and does anyone know of a good online Mandarin language course.

I&#039;d be brushing up on that if I were you.

That is, if the Chinese want us for anything besides cleaning their toilets and taking care of their kids while they are off at the country club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and does anyone know of a good online Mandarin language course.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be brushing up on that if I were you.</p>
<p>That is, if the Chinese want us for anything besides cleaning their toilets and taking care of their kids while they are off at the country club.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=468358', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Queer Planet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queer Planet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China is a threat in this way.  

Having the biggest, best and most dangerous weapons one earth, along with the biggest military does not in fact make you powerful.

I&#039;m sure the Chinese have a colorful saying for this.  Something about tigers.


All of the biggest, best and powerful military COSTS MONEY, TIME AND ENERGY!!!!!

Ever play the game RISK?

Sometimes sitting on the side and not getting into expensive wars is the best way to win the game.

China now owns substantial sections of the US economy.  We are, in fact, deeply in financial debt to China.

They wait, while we bleed to death.  They wait while our military expansion bleeds our bankroll dry.  They wait while our military expansion empties our diplomatic relations.

They wait.  Then, as the US begins to feel the weight of our hubris, they call in our debt.

End of the game.  China wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is a threat in this way.  </p>
<p>Having the biggest, best and most dangerous weapons one earth, along with the biggest military does not in fact make you powerful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the Chinese have a colorful saying for this.  Something about tigers.</p>
<p>All of the biggest, best and powerful military COSTS MONEY, TIME AND ENERGY!!!!!</p>
<p>Ever play the game RISK?</p>
<p>Sometimes sitting on the side and not getting into expensive wars is the best way to win the game.</p>
<p>China now owns substantial sections of the US economy.  We are, in fact, deeply in financial debt to China.</p>
<p>They wait, while we bleed to death.  They wait while our military expansion bleeds our bankroll dry.  They wait while our military expansion empties our diplomatic relations.</p>
<p>They wait.  Then, as the US begins to feel the weight of our hubris, they call in our debt.</p>
<p>End of the game.  China wins.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=468353', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#196 - AR,
The crux of the matter is that the framers could not conceive of a condition where people of self-interest and greed could take over all three branches of government and allow the Executive to ignore the Constitution and the laws of the Legislative while the Legislature does nothing to question what is happening. In actuality, there are about twenty individuals who have colluded in order to destroy this country and nothing can be done until there is another election cycle. Further this is based on the premise that the election is far and square. The last three cycles (2000, 2002 and 2004) have been fraught with fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#196 &#8211; AR,<br />
The crux of the matter is that the framers could not conceive of a condition where people of self-interest and greed could take over all three branches of government and allow the Executive to ignore the Constitution and the laws of the Legislative while the Legislature does nothing to question what is happening. In actuality, there are about twenty individuals who have colluded in order to destroy this country and nothing can be done until there is another election cycle. Further this is based on the premise that the election is far and square. The last three cycles (2000, 2002 and 2004) have been fraught with fraud.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=468193', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So most you here agree that staying longer in Iraq is a problem. This blog&#039;s opinions can be safely said to represent the majority views of the general american public and anyone with enough common sense.

Rep Murtha of Penn. hits the nail on the head, most people here who know what&#039;s going on agree with that. If pretty much the rest of America save the few white house people and supporters, know what needs to be done, what are you going to do about it now? Its one thing to talk about it and finally come to conclusions on a blog. Its quite another to make it happen.

Looking at the stubborness of the White House, and the freq break up of non violent protesting against the war, it is tempting to think that non violent methods are not being effective, and a people&#039;s revolt, violent it may be, will be the only feasible option to save this country.

If the country is fast going down the path of ruin, will it be too little, too late if you all decide to just use non-violent civil disobedience and the vote to change the leadership of the country? 
I don&#039;t like violence myself, but as an outsider reading all this there doesn&#039;t seem to be much time left for your country to pull out of the mess that it has already dug for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So most you here agree that staying longer in Iraq is a problem. This blog&#8217;s opinions can be safely said to represent the majority views of the general american public and anyone with enough common sense.</p>
<p>Rep Murtha of Penn. hits the nail on the head, most people here who know what&#8217;s going on agree with that. If pretty much the rest of America save the few white house people and supporters, know what needs to be done, what are you going to do about it now? Its one thing to talk about it and finally come to conclusions on a blog. Its quite another to make it happen.</p>
<p>Looking at the stubborness of the White House, and the freq break up of non violent protesting against the war, it is tempting to think that non violent methods are not being effective, and a people&#8217;s revolt, violent it may be, will be the only feasible option to save this country.</p>
<p>If the country is fast going down the path of ruin, will it be too little, too late if you all decide to just use non-violent civil disobedience and the vote to change the leadership of the country?<br />
I don&#8217;t like violence myself, but as an outsider reading all this there doesn&#8217;t seem to be much time left for your country to pull out of the mess that it has already dug for itself.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467952', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is indeed The Real American, it isn&#039;t surprising considering the state of the country today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is indeed The Real American, it isn&#8217;t surprising considering the state of the country today.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467920', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Real American does not speak English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Real American does not speak English.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467762', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Real American</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Murpha hates America!!!

THe iraqians and the iranians are fighting furiously because they all no they are soon to be free!!!!

Murpha is a communist sympathiser who should go back to Russia!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Murpha hates America!!!</p>
<p>THe iraqians and the iranians are fighting furiously because they all no they are soon to be free!!!!</p>
<p>Murpha is a communist sympathiser who should go back to Russia!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467715', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wake up and smell the hoses</title>
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		<dc:creator>wake up and smell the hoses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Murtha! But it&#039;s more than that. Wake up! This administration has been about ONE THING and one thing only. The religious right agenda, the wars-for-oil, the subversion of the media, etc â€¦all smokescreens. This administration only took power to do one thing: &lt;b&gt;TO TRANSFER THE PUBLIC WEALTH OF THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD INTO PRIVATE HANDS.
&lt;/b&gt;This admin has been straight-arrow loot-and-pillage on an epic scale. If Guiness had a world record book of crime, this is it, folks, the crime of the millenia. The wealth of the wealthiest country has already been looted and diverted from the public coffers of the federal state treasury and banked in the accounts of private contractors, armament industries, communication and energy companies, favorite drug companies (what do you think the Medicare change was about?), lobbiests and private buddy corporations during the last 5 years.
Whatâ€™s truly horrifying is is wasnâ€™t just the surplus the admin inherited or revenue from the last 5 years. This deficit will have our kids and grandkids enslaved and endebted throughout their lifetimes. The services designed for their benefit have been and will be cut to fix this â€˜money problem.â€™ Thatâ€™s a killer coup, eh? Not just to steal the money, but to steal it in such a way that an entire nation will work 2-1/2 lifetimes, with far fewer safety nets, to try and replace it. Complete with tax cuts that insure that they and theirs won&#039;t be the ones responsible for paying back any of it!
Period. Thatâ€™s what all about, the erupting scandals, Bush never vetoeing a bill, thatâ€™s why we went to war. Itâ€™s all about the money.
Weâ€™ve all been hosed, by leaders who havenâ€™t hesistated to leave 3 generation of American tax payers naked and bleeding on the ground, and 1000s of people dead and bleeding in the sands of the Middle East. 
Itâ€™s too late. Weâ€™re all screwed and theyâ€™re rich beyond a gluttonâ€™s wettest dream. They stole Americaâ€™s money. We let them. Itâ€™s gone.
Better wake up before the administration finally figures out how to transfer Social Security â€” the last, vast, untapped oil field of federal and public monies â€” into the pockets of the brokerage house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Murtha! But it&#8217;s more than that. Wake up! This administration has been about ONE THING and one thing only. The religious right agenda, the wars-for-oil, the subversion of the media, etc â€¦all smokescreens. This administration only took power to do one thing: <b>TO TRANSFER THE PUBLIC WEALTH OF THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD INTO PRIVATE HANDS.<br />
</b>This admin has been straight-arrow loot-and-pillage on an epic scale. If Guiness had a world record book of crime, this is it, folks, the crime of the millenia. The wealth of the wealthiest country has already been looted and diverted from the public coffers of the federal state treasury and banked in the accounts of private contractors, armament industries, communication and energy companies, favorite drug companies (what do you think the Medicare change was about?), lobbiests and private buddy corporations during the last 5 years.<br />
Whatâ€™s truly horrifying is is wasnâ€™t just the surplus the admin inherited or revenue from the last 5 years. This deficit will have our kids and grandkids enslaved and endebted throughout their lifetimes. The services designed for their benefit have been and will be cut to fix this â€˜money problem.â€™ Thatâ€™s a killer coup, eh? Not just to steal the money, but to steal it in such a way that an entire nation will work 2-1/2 lifetimes, with far fewer safety nets, to try and replace it. Complete with tax cuts that insure that they and theirs won&#8217;t be the ones responsible for paying back any of it!<br />
Period. Thatâ€™s what all about, the erupting scandals, Bush never vetoeing a bill, thatâ€™s why we went to war. Itâ€™s all about the money.<br />
Weâ€™ve all been hosed, by leaders who havenâ€™t hesistated to leave 3 generation of American tax payers naked and bleeding on the ground, and 1000s of people dead and bleeding in the sands of the Middle East.<br />
Itâ€™s too late. Weâ€™re all screwed and theyâ€™re rich beyond a gluttonâ€™s wettest dream. They stole Americaâ€™s money. We let them. Itâ€™s gone.<br />
Better wake up before the administration finally figures out how to transfer Social Security â€” the last, vast, untapped oil field of federal and public monies â€” into the pockets of the brokerage house.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467611', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: For Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>For Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray Robison,

Its about the bigger picture, not a slice in time you can be technically correct about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray Robison,</p>
<p>Its about the bigger picture, not a slice in time you can be technically correct about.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467514', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cyra Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyra Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#184- And just because YOU have no sense of humor, it doesn&#039;t mean that it wasn&#039;t funny. It&#039;s called &quot;perspective&quot;. Perhaps you could develop some ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#184- And just because YOU have no sense of humor, it doesn&#8217;t mean that it wasn&#8217;t funny. It&#8217;s called &#8220;perspective&#8221;. Perhaps you could develop some ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467242', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nice one Iran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nice one Iran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Nice one IRAN&lt;/strong&gt;

â€œIranâ€™s transparent cooperation with the IAEA inspectors and IAEA Deputy Director General Olli Heinonenâ€™s trip to Iran, which led to the two positive paragraphs in ElBaradeiâ€™s report on Iranâ€™s good cooperation with the agencyâ€™s inspectors, were effective in convincing members of the IAEA Board that Iran has behaved appropriately toward the IAEA. However, the U.S. and other Western media disseminated false reports over the past few weeks, saying that Iran has refused to accept inspections.â€

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=3/7/2006&amp;Cat=2&amp;Num=011&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Nice one IRAN</strong></p>
<p>â€œIranâ€™s transparent cooperation with the IAEA inspectors and IAEA Deputy Director General Olli Heinonenâ€™s trip to Iran, which led to the two positive paragraphs in ElBaradeiâ€™s report on Iranâ€™s good cooperation with the agencyâ€™s inspectors, were effective in convincing members of the IAEA Board that Iran has behaved appropriately toward the IAEA. However, the U.S. and other Western media disseminated false reports over the past few weeks, saying that Iran has refused to accept inspections.â€</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=3/7/2006&amp;Cat=2&amp;Num=011" rel="nofollow">LINK</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467188', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America has no war on drugs its actually the world biggest heroin supplier which it sells to destabalise foreign societies,  It seems quite routine for american diplomats to carry 25 KG in their suitcases</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America has no war on drugs its actually the world biggest heroin supplier which it sells to destabalise foreign societies,  It seems quite routine for american diplomats to carry 25 KG in their suitcases<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467157', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a liberal loon.  No wonder why the democrats have a jackass for a symbol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a liberal loon.  No wonder why the democrats have a jackass for a symbol.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=467062', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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