on warrantless wiretapping. ABC News reports: “The Senate Intelligence Committee is slated to vote, in a closed session, on whether it will investigate the president’s NSA warrantless domestic wiretapping program. At this point, it could go either way.â€
There are enough votes to get an investigation.
Rockefeller Wiretap Inquiry Motion May Pass
March 6th, 2006 at 3:26 pmIt’s a sad state of affairs that they have to decide to decide if a law has been broken.
March 6th, 2006 at 3:31 pmThe interesting thing is that the NSA is getting sued again over the wiretaps. This time the plaintiff and their attorney has seen a list of the phone calls before the government took the list way.
http://www.intoxination.net/2006/03/06/the-nsa-gets-another-lawsuit/
Jamie
March 6th, 2006 at 3:37 pmhttp://www.intoxination.net
If they use Diebold voting machines looks like republicans will win with a majority of 64000
March 6th, 2006 at 3:39 pmMaybe we can get the kult eunuchs to hold their breath until tomorrow? Just a thought.
March 6th, 2006 at 3:44 pmLet’s see if Frist follows through on his threat…..
March 6th, 2006 at 3:45 pmI dont have any hopes. Nothing is going to happen. The Republican Cult continues to destroy along with the help of its brain dead supporters.
March 6th, 2006 at 3:47 pmFolks,
Saw this on crooksandliars.com (via a link to Glenn Greenwald’s blog).
Apparenly Sen. Frist is threatening to restructure the Senate Intelligence Committee if this vote goes through, in an effort to block any NSA hearing. More here.
March 6th, 2006 at 3:48 pmFrist has threatened to replace the republicans on the commitee with those “closer to the family” if they decide to hold the vote.
March 6th, 2006 at 3:49 pmWC,
You would see a Republican backlash if Frist tries any crazy shit like that.
March 6th, 2006 at 3:50 pmObi Rove Kenobi: “You don’t need to look into the NSA spy program.”
Dr. Bill Frist: “We don’t need to look into the NSA spy program.”
Obi Rove Kenobi: “There is nothing to see here.”
Dr. Bill Frist: “There is nothing to see here.”
Obi Rove Kenobi: “Move along.”
Dr. Bill Frist: “Move along.”
This small play brought to you by the Committee of Americans Watching Their Nation Turn Into A Third World Tin Pot Dictatorship.
March 6th, 2006 at 3:50 pm10)
Then again look back over the past 6 years …are you so sure?
March 6th, 2006 at 3:51 pmPlease, someone remove Dr. Frists feeding tube that leads from his ass to Karl Rove’s pud.
-GSD
March 6th, 2006 at 3:52 pmGerald Gibson,
I am positive. If there is one thing that republicans love just as much as money, it is power. They will do anything and everything to keep it.
Remember the big stink that DeLay made about getting his seat back on one of the committees after he was forced to step down as Senate Majority Leader?
March 6th, 2006 at 3:55 pm#10
Maybe…and we can only hope. But what would they do? Threaten to hold their breath until their faces turned blue? There are only, what, 4 Republicans that are siding with Rockefeller in his quest to hold a vote supporting hearings? Do you think there are enough Repubs that would say to Frist, “Now hold on just a darn minute”?
March 6th, 2006 at 4:00 pmWC
Yea, that was another excellent Glenn post. But I believe it to be a headless body thrashing about. To change the Intel committee’s rules before the vote is impossible. Just another “Fristing” brought to you by the “GOP kultâ€.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:08 pmThey only need two republicans to vote for the investigation.
Here are the members.
REPUBLICANS
Pat Roberts, Kansas Chairman
Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
Mike Dewine, Ohio
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri
Trent Lott, Mississippi
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska
DEMOCRATS
John D. Rockefeller IV
West Virginia, Vice Chairman
Carl Levin, Michigan
Dianne Feinstein, California
Ron Wyden, Oregon
Evan Bayh, Indiana
Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia
That would be 9 votes for the investigation and 7 against it.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:12 pmQuick, someone throw a dead cat in front of Frist. Or better yet, a live one. That ought to keep him occupied for awhile.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:12 pm…(closed session…shhhhhhh)…..(we don’t want anyone to know what we are doing)….I had a friend who had many legal deductions. The IRS audited him, and said: ‘You can’t have this many deductions’. ‘His atty said: ‘Their YOUR rules, and sited the all.’..The IRS said: ‘We’ll have to have a hearing on this…they did IN PRIVATE, just IRS folks allowed in. In minutes they came out and said: ‘Sorry you lose. No appeal allowed.’
March 6th, 2006 at 4:17 pm“We have to address the fact that the president has broken the law.†— Senator Russ Feingold
March 6th, 2006 at 4:20 pmSpudge,
You just need to unbold and move Saxby Chambliss back over to the Republican side where he belongs. I can’t see him siding with the left on this.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:21 pmIf Senator Russ Feingold is on this committee you bet something will be done. Go Dems Go!!!!!
March 6th, 2006 at 4:22 pmThen the dems need to twist some fvcking arms. Have Russ Fiengold “talk” some sense into him.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:25 pmBy your count, we’ve got 9 votes without him. I think you just counted wrong.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:28 pmDon’t count on it.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:31 pmLet’s try that again.
REPUBLICANS
Pat Roberts, Kansas Chairman
Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
Mike Dewine, Ohio
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri
Trent Lott, Mississippi
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia
DEMOCRATS
John D. Rockefeller IV West Virginia, Vice Chairman
Carl Levin, Michigan
Dianne Feinstein, California
Ron Wyden, Oregon
Evan Bayh, Indiana
Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin
There.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:36 pmFor the latest news, legal documents, timelines, statutes and other key materials, see:
March 6th, 2006 at 4:40 pm“The NSA Scandal Resource Center.”
I think the Repubs may vote for the investigation, because they must realize if they don’t they may be in for a “day of reckoning” of their own next election day.
March 6th, 2006 at 4:56 pmWhen have Republicans ever acted like there would be a day of reckoning?
March 6th, 2006 at 5:02 pm#26
OK…so I was wrong (2 vs. 4) But, per Glenn’s blog, Newsweek reported that at one time, DeWine was prepared to vote with Snowe and Hagel. Has this changed?
March 6th, 2006 at 5:05 pm#28
Yeah, but a vote to have hearings notwithstanding, will this still be fresh in voters’ minds 8 months from now?
As some have said, look out for another “missing white girl” story to take over the headlines for awhile. Looks like that may have happened. Pulled up CNN.com a few minutes ago and listed at the top, on a blazing red background, was “BREAKING NEWS”…NASCAR has decided to build their hall of fame in Charlotte. Breaking news indeed!
March 6th, 2006 at 5:10 pm#29 – Good point, cynical. They haven’t really, but I’m beginning to get a sense of “gee, no thanks, Mr. Bush, don’t bother with the endorsement,” in the Repubs. I think it may get worse the closer to November we get. Just my thinking.
March 6th, 2006 at 5:20 pmwe gotta better chance at finding out what kind of beer cheney drank before he went shooting up his party
March 6th, 2006 at 5:24 pmzookeeper, im sorry ol stick ,yer not livin in the real world these folks have ggeeeeeeesssuuuzzzzs on their side
March 6th, 2006 at 5:25 pmdont cha know!!!???
WC,
DeWine is the one trying to get the FISA law changed to accomodate this illegal program. He tried to get this same ammedment to FISA passed in 2002 and was turned down by the administration. Of course, the illegal program was already underway.
All the details here:
March 6th, 2006 at 5:41 pmWiretapping Legal, After The Crime?
Take Action! Write your Senator or call right now:
Pat Roberts, Kansas Chairman
Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
Mike Dewine, Ohio
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri
Trent Lott, Mississippi
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia
DEMOCRATS
John D. Rockefeller IV West Virginia, Vice Chairman
Carl Levin, Michigan
Dianne Feinstein, California
Ron Wyden, Oregon
Evan Bayh, Indiana
Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin
Insist on a full investigation.
March 6th, 2006 at 5:42 pmWhether Roberts’ committee once again abdicates its oversight role likely comes to down the votes of three Republican members previously critical of the NSA program: Mike DeWine of Ohio, Maine’s Olympia Snowe and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska. DeWine, who has both advocated legislation retroactively authorizing the program and sought to avoid a discussion of its constitutionality, will almost assuredly vote against an investigation. The full pressure of Karl Rove and the Bush White House will be focused on Snowe, who previously called for a joint inquiry by the Judiciary and Intelligence committees and Hagel, who on January 29th declared of the President:
“He [Bush] just can’t unilaterally decide that that 1978 law is out of date and he will be the guardian of America and he will violate that law.”
For the full story, see:
March 6th, 2006 at 6:07 pm“Senate Showdown Tuesday on Domestic Spying.”
A democracy doesn’t operate behind closed doors. They are hiding from us because they are breaking the law, violating our rights and making a mockery of American ideals. They are winning now, but ultimately they will fail.
True patriots will never submit to tyranny.
March 6th, 2006 at 6:56 pmWake up! This administration has been about ONE THING and one thing only. The religious right agenda, the wars-for-oil, the subversion of the media, etc …all smokescreens. This administration only took power to do one thing: TO TRANSFER THE PUBLIC WEALTH OF THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD INTO PRIVATE HANDS.
March 6th, 2006 at 7:05 pmThis admin has been straight-arrow loot-and-pillage on an epic scale. If Guiness had a world record book of crime, this is it, folks, the crime of the millenia. The wealth of the wealthiest country has already been looted, robbed and diverted from public coffers and banked in the accounts of private contractors, armament industries, communication and energy companies, favorite drug companies (what do you think the Medicare change was about?) and private buddy corporations during the last 5 years.
What’s truly horrifying is is wasn’t just the surplus the admin inherited or revenue from the last 5 years. This deficit will have our kids and grandkids enslaved and endebted throughout their lifetimes. The services designed for their benefit have been and will be cut to fix this ‘money problem.’ That’s a killer coup, eh? Not just to steal the money, but to steal it in such a way that an entire nation will work 2-1/2 lifetimes, with far fewer safety nets, to try and replace it. And then to set up a bunch of new tax cuts for the wealthiest (ie: the beneficiaries of all our public money) that insures they and theirs will never have to be responsible for paying back any of it!
Period. That’s what all about, the erupting scandals, Bush never vetoeing a bill, that’s why we went to war. It’s all about the money.
We’ve all been hosed, by leaders who haven’t hesistated to leave 3 generation of American tax payers naked and bleeding on the ground, and 1000s of people dead and bleeding in the sands of the Middle East. (1000s so far. Just watch…this has been too much fun for them, like taking candy from a baby, can’t turn the war milk cow into hamburger yet.)
It’s too late. You all are idiots, we’re all screwed and they’re rich beyond a glutton’s wettest dream. They stole America’s money. We let them. It’s gone.
Better wake up before the administration finally figures out how to transfer Social Security — the last, vast, untapped oil field of federal and public monies — into the pockets of the brokerage house.