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Tomorrow a “day of reckoning”

on warrantless wiretapping. ABC News reports: “The Senate Intelligence Committee is slated to vote, in a closed session, on whether it will investigate the president’s NSA warrantless domestic wiretapping program. At this point, it could go either way.”



39 Responses to “Tomorrow a “day of reckoning””

  1. Spudge_Boy says:

    There are enough votes to get an investigation.

    Rockefeller Wiretap Inquiry Motion May Pass


  2. Marie says:

    It’s a sad state of affairs that they have to decide to decide if a law has been broken.


  3. Jamie says:

    The interesting thing is that the NSA is getting sued again over the wiretaps. This time the plaintiff and their attorney has seen a list of the phone calls before the government took the list way.

    http://www.intoxination.net/2006/03/06/the-nsa-gets-another-lawsuit/

    Jamie
    http://www.intoxination.net


  4. Nice one Iran says:

    If they use Diebold voting machines looks like republicans will win with a majority of 64000


  5. Citizen80203 says:

    Maybe we can get the kult eunuchs to hold their breath until tomorrow? Just a thought.


  6. snookered says:

    Let’s see if Frist follows through on his threat…..


  7. Ajay says:

    I dont have any hopes. Nothing is going to happen. The Republican Cult continues to destroy along with the help of its brain dead supporters.


  8. WC says:

    Folks,

    Saw this on crooksandliars.com (via a link to Glenn Greenwald’s blog).

    Apparenly Sen. Frist is threatening to restructure the Senate Intelligence Committee if this vote goes through, in an effort to block any NSA hearing. More here.


  9. Gerald Gibson says:

    Frist has threatened to replace the republicans on the commitee with those “closer to the family” if they decide to hold the vote.


  10. Spudge_Boy says:

    WC,

    You would see a Republican backlash if Frist tries any crazy shit like that.


  11. Granite State Destroyer says:

    Obi Rove Kenobi: “You don’t need to look into the NSA spy program.”

    Dr. Bill Frist: “We don’t need to look into the NSA spy program.”

    Obi Rove Kenobi: “There is nothing to see here.”

    Dr. Bill Frist: “There is nothing to see here.”

    Obi Rove Kenobi: “Move along.”

    Dr. Bill Frist: “Move along.”

    This small play brought to you by the Committee of Americans Watching Their Nation Turn Into A Third World Tin Pot Dictatorship.


  12. Gerald Gibson says:

    10)

    Then again look back over the past 6 years …are you so sure?


  13. Granite State Destroyer says:

    Please, someone remove Dr. Frists feeding tube that leads from his ass to Karl Rove’s pud.

    -GSD


  14. Spudge_Boy says:

    are you so sure?

    Gerald Gibson,

    I am positive. If there is one thing that republicans love just as much as money, it is power. They will do anything and everything to keep it.

    Remember the big stink that DeLay made about getting his seat back on one of the committees after he was forced to step down as Senate Majority Leader?


  15. WC says:

    #10

    Maybe…and we can only hope. But what would they do? Threaten to hold their breath until their faces turned blue? There are only, what, 4 Republicans that are siding with Rockefeller in his quest to hold a vote supporting hearings? Do you think there are enough Repubs that would say to Frist, “Now hold on just a darn minute”?


  16. Citizen80203 says:

    WC

    Yea, that was another excellent Glenn post. But I believe it to be a headless body thrashing about. To change the Intel committee’s rules before the vote is impossible. Just another “Fristing” brought to you by the “GOP kult”.


  17. Spudge_Boy says:

    There are only, what, 4 Republicans that are siding with Rockefeller in his quest to hold a vote supporting hearings?

    They only need two republicans to vote for the investigation.

    Here are the members.

    REPUBLICANS
    Pat Roberts, Kansas Chairman
    Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
    Mike Dewine, Ohio
    Christopher S. Bond, Missouri
    Trent Lott, Mississippi
    Olympia J. Snowe, Maine
    Chuck Hagel, Nebraska

    DEMOCRATS
    John D. Rockefeller IV
    West Virginia, Vice Chairman
    Carl Levin, Michigan
    Dianne Feinstein, California
    Ron Wyden, Oregon
    Evan Bayh, Indiana
    Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
    Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin
    Saxby Chambliss, Georgia

    That would be 9 votes for the investigation and 7 against it.


  18. Preznit Pinhead says:

    Quick, someone throw a dead cat in front of Frist. Or better yet, a live one. That ought to keep him occupied for awhile.


  19. wisedup says:

    …(closed session…shhhhhhh)…..(we don’t want anyone to know what we are doing)….I had a friend who had many legal deductions. The IRS audited him, and said: ‘You can’t have this many deductions’. ‘His atty said: ‘Their YOUR rules, and sited the all.’..The IRS said: ‘We’ll have to have a hearing on this…they did IN PRIVATE, just IRS folks allowed in. In minutes they came out and said: ‘Sorry you lose. No appeal allowed.’


  20. Bush is Watching You 24/7 says:

    “We have to address the fact that the president has broken the law.” — Senator Russ Feingold


  21. bluefish says:

    Spudge,

    You just need to unbold and move Saxby Chambliss back over to the Republican side where he belongs. I can’t see him siding with the left on this.


  22. Mary Poppin says:

    If Senator Russ Feingold is on this committee you bet something will be done. Go Dems Go!!!!!


  23. Spudge_Boy says:

    You just need to unbold and move Saxby Chambliss back over to the Republican side where he belongs. I can’t see him siding with the left on this.

    Then the dems need to twist some fvcking arms. Have Russ Fiengold “talk” some sense into him.


  24. bluefish says:

    By your count, we’ve got 9 votes without him. I think you just counted wrong.


  25. Bob Loblaw says:

    Don’t count on it.


  26. Spudge_Boy says:

    Let’s try that again.

    REPUBLICANS
    Pat Roberts, Kansas Chairman
    Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
    Mike Dewine, Ohio
    Christopher S. Bond, Missouri
    Trent Lott, Mississippi
    Olympia J. Snowe, Maine
    Chuck Hagel, Nebraska

    Saxby Chambliss, Georgia

    DEMOCRATS
    John D. Rockefeller IV West Virginia, Vice Chairman
    Carl Levin, Michigan
    Dianne Feinstein, California
    Ron Wyden, Oregon
    Evan Bayh, Indiana
    Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
    Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin

    There.


  27. AvengingAngel says:

    For the latest news, legal documents, timelines, statutes and other key materials, see:
    “The NSA Scandal Resource Center.”


  28. Zookeeper says:

    I think the Repubs may vote for the investigation, because they must realize if they don’t they may be in for a “day of reckoning” of their own next election day.


  29. cynical ex-hippie says:

    When have Republicans ever acted like there would be a day of reckoning?


  30. WC says:

    #26

    OK…so I was wrong (2 vs. 4) But, per Glenn’s blog, Newsweek reported that at one time, DeWine was prepared to vote with Snowe and Hagel. Has this changed?


  31. WC says:

    #28

    Yeah, but a vote to have hearings notwithstanding, will this still be fresh in voters’ minds 8 months from now?

    As some have said, look out for another “missing white girl” story to take over the headlines for awhile. Looks like that may have happened. Pulled up CNN.com a few minutes ago and listed at the top, on a blazing red background, was “BREAKING NEWS”…NASCAR has decided to build their hall of fame in Charlotte. Breaking news indeed!


  32. Zookeeper says:

    #29 – Good point, cynical. They haven’t really, but I’m beginning to get a sense of “gee, no thanks, Mr. Bush, don’t bother with the endorsement,” in the Repubs. I think it may get worse the closer to November we get. Just my thinking.


  33. stewart says:

    we gotta better chance at finding out what kind of beer cheney drank before he went shooting up his party


  34. stewart says:

    zookeeper, im sorry ol stick ,yer not livin in the real world these folks have ggeeeeeeesssuuuzzzzs on their side
    dont cha know!!!???


  35. Spudge_Boy says:

    DeWine was prepared to vote with Snowe and Hagel. Has this changed?

    WC,

    DeWine is the one trying to get the FISA law changed to accomodate this illegal program. He tried to get this same ammedment to FISA passed in 2002 and was turned down by the administration. Of course, the illegal program was already underway.

    All the details here:
    Wiretapping Legal, After The Crime?


  36. Hardy Haberman says:

    Take Action! Write your Senator or call right now:

    Pat Roberts, Kansas Chairman
    Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
    Mike Dewine, Ohio
    Christopher S. Bond, Missouri
    Trent Lott, Mississippi
    Olympia J. Snowe, Maine
    Chuck Hagel, Nebraska
    Saxby Chambliss, Georgia

    DEMOCRATS
    John D. Rockefeller IV West Virginia, Vice Chairman
    Carl Levin, Michigan
    Dianne Feinstein, California
    Ron Wyden, Oregon
    Evan Bayh, Indiana
    Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
    Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin

    Insist on a full investigation.


  37. AvengingAngel says:

    Whether Roberts’ committee once again abdicates its oversight role likely comes to down the votes of three Republican members previously critical of the NSA program: Mike DeWine of Ohio, Maine’s Olympia Snowe and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska. DeWine, who has both advocated legislation retroactively authorizing the program and sought to avoid a discussion of its constitutionality, will almost assuredly vote against an investigation. The full pressure of Karl Rove and the Bush White House will be focused on Snowe, who previously called for a joint inquiry by the Judiciary and Intelligence committees and Hagel, who on January 29th declared of the President:

    “He [Bush] just can’t unilaterally decide that that 1978 law is out of date and he will be the guardian of America and he will violate that law.”

    For the full story, see:
    “Senate Showdown Tuesday on Domestic Spying.”


  38. Publicus says:

    A democracy doesn’t operate behind closed doors. They are hiding from us because they are breaking the law, violating our rights and making a mockery of American ideals. They are winning now, but ultimately they will fail.

    True patriots will never submit to tyranny.


  39. wake up and smell the hoses says:

    Wake up! This administration has been about ONE THING and one thing only. The religious right agenda, the wars-for-oil, the subversion of the media, etc …all smokescreens. This administration only took power to do one thing: TO TRANSFER THE PUBLIC WEALTH OF THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD INTO PRIVATE HANDS.
    This admin has been straight-arrow loot-and-pillage on an epic scale. If Guiness had a world record book of crime, this is it, folks, the crime of the millenia. The wealth of the wealthiest country has already been looted, robbed and diverted from public coffers and banked in the accounts of private contractors, armament industries, communication and energy companies, favorite drug companies (what do you think the Medicare change was about?) and private buddy corporations during the last 5 years.
    What’s truly horrifying is is wasn’t just the surplus the admin inherited or revenue from the last 5 years. This deficit will have our kids and grandkids enslaved and endebted throughout their lifetimes. The services designed for their benefit have been and will be cut to fix this ‘money problem.’ That’s a killer coup, eh? Not just to steal the money, but to steal it in such a way that an entire nation will work 2-1/2 lifetimes, with far fewer safety nets, to try and replace it. And then to set up a bunch of new tax cuts for the wealthiest (ie: the beneficiaries of all our public money) that insures they and theirs will never have to be responsible for paying back any of it!
    Period. That’s what all about, the erupting scandals, Bush never vetoeing a bill, that’s why we went to war. It’s all about the money.
    We’ve all been hosed, by leaders who haven’t hesistated to leave 3 generation of American tax payers naked and bleeding on the ground, and 1000s of people dead and bleeding in the sands of the Middle East. (1000s so far. Just watch…this has been too much fun for them, like taking candy from a baby, can’t turn the war milk cow into hamburger yet.)
    It’s too late. You all are idiots, we’re all screwed and they’re rich beyond a glutton’s wettest dream. They stole America’s money. We let them. It’s gone.
    Better wake up before the administration finally figures out how to transfer Social Security — the last, vast, untapped oil field of federal and public monies — into the pockets of the brokerage house.



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