“The discovery of executed people — sometimes from an entire family, often with their hands bound, their mouths gagged and shot in the head — has become commonplace.” – Washington Post, 3/8/06 (Via AS)
In a related story, several schools in Tikrit were painted a very nice beige tone and some US troops in Fallujah handed out George W. Bush action figures at a mosque opening.
We are really making progress. What every Iraqi is asking :was Sadam Hussein that bad ? If this democracy ? or are the news just a figment of the american press Rummy and Pace think so .
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
April 23, 2004 Remarks by the President at Victory 2004 Reception
Hyatt Regency Hotel
Coral Gables, Florida
…there are no longer mass graves and torture rooms and rape rooms in Iraq. – President George W. Bush
OK, so we know Bush is a pathological liar, how come the press doesn’t make a big deal of it? Perhaps a concerted effort to write leters to the press and to call radio talk shows with a litany of Bush’s lies. If people hear it enough they just might realize they are being hoodwinked.
Continue to cheer for death and destruction. This will all be noted.
Comment by Tour De Farce — March 8, 2006 @ 3:31 pm
wwallace,
Who is rooting for death and destruction? Do you not understand the post? Did you read the article? We are decrying that, as a consequence of the US invasion, sectarian violence is now commonplace in Iraq.
Negropronte death squads of the 1980’s .He was big on this sort of action in Central America. Nuns murdered,priest murdered,villagers,Pregant women in Ravines all the handiwork of John Negropronte! bush has put into play a take over of this country by the means of deception.
Comment by Tour De Farce — March 8, 2006 @ 3:47 pm
Typical fascist/totalitarian rhetoric. Used by Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Saddam, Idi Amin, Pinochet and all other oppresive regimes…apparently now the Bush/Rove regime.
It is not the left that worships the death in Iraq. It is the right. You are projecting your sickness on the left. You love the dead US troops, torture, the bombings, the beheadings, the dead civilians.
This is what you on the right love.
Congratulations, you have your blood and death.
At least Bush could make it to a funeral of a single troop.
Typical of the neocons. You push your plan through over the objections of thinking people, and when things go badly you blame those who tried to warn you against it.
I pity the neocons. They may or may not pay for their crimes.
They guy who coined the term freedom fries has recanted, become an opponent of the war, and has gone to more soldiers’ funerals than the entire Bush cabinet.
many posts here just show exactly how ignorant and arogant the right wing goverment and supporters are, Im not waisting another moment of my life in here . Goodbye to you decent Liberal Americans and may destruction fall upon all the others as it will
Asked what he felt about America’s UN ambassador John Bolton’s threat that Iran faces ‘painful consequences’ as the US will use every tool to prevent Iran progressing towards a nuclear weapon:
ALI LARIJANI: “It seems to me that this is one of those comments that cannot be done – this is the problem and this tells me about the weakness of the Americans.. They have to save themselves from the quagmire of Iraq ….”
He continued:
“I think that all the opinions of the political pundits can see the unilateral actions of the US in my part of the world and these have all had detrimental effects.
For the Americans they are bullying and they want to establish democracy as they see it in Iraq. This is the current situation they see in Iraq as a result.
The first day they went into Iraq they said that ‘we want to start a wave of democracy so that their neighbours understand that but they have created a massacre . ”
JON SNOW: But this is Iran – do you think they want to come in here? Do they want to attack you?
ALI LARIJANI: “I think that the Americans, well if they think correctly about their best interests and think rationally, they won’t entertain such futile thoughts.
They have many problems – these comments are made basically because they cannot analyse the situation correctly and that is why they make such comments, therefore we don’t attach a lot of importance or value to such comments”.
SNOW: Does Iran want to build a nuclear bomb?
ALI ARIJANI The national security doctrine of Iran has no place for an atomic bomb – we don’t need such a thought and we have announced as much time and again.
And the agency in its latest report after 3 years of inspections and studying, the Iranian nuclear technology in its latest report it has announced that we have found no documents relating to diversion on the part of Iran.
This sensationalism that Americans and a number of other countries are fanning is a political story it is not a real issue”
watch the interview if only Bush was as wise as Larinjani as understanding things like tribal sovereigty
#12
What are you talking about? The old media in this country has been praying and hoping for a civil war for three years now and they thought they had their wish two weeks ago. Sorry to disappoint. After the Iraqi elections in December, there was hardly any mention and certainly no cheering by the media. All of the Iraqi people want freedom, not civil war. It is only the left in America and Al Qaeda that want civil war. Like it or not, we are succeeding in Iraq.
#30 What are you talking about? Give an example of someone praying for civil war.
Those elections are hardly winning. There’s more to democracy than an election. Perhaps you should take a camera to Iraq and send us photographic evidence of our victory there. If not, tell us why not.
NewNonNeoCon says: The old media in this country has been praying and hoping for a civil war for three years now and they thought they had their wish two weeks ago.
You have no idea of what “the old media” has been thinking. “The old media” is made up of people who are your neighbors and fellows citizens. Who ARE you?
NewNonNeoCon says: Sorry to disappoint.
You can’t disappoint anyone here. You have no power.
NewNonNeoCon says: After the Iraqi elections in December, there was hardly any mention and certainly no cheering by the media.
That’s because nothing was decided in December. Iraqi went through the motions of voting. Results weren’t even final and official until recently. The president hasn’t been chosen yet. The parliment hasn’t met yet. Nothing has truly happened yet.
NewNonNeoCon says: All of the Iraqi people want freedom, not civil war.
Of course the vast majority of people want freedom from tyranny and war. But then people do irrational things when they are very angry and when they have nothing left, nothing to lose. There are those in Russian though who long for the return of dictatorial communism and still believe Stalin was a good guy. Weird.
NewNonNeoCon says: It is only the left in America and Al Qaeda that want civil war.
Okay, here you are just a troll idiot.
NewNonNeoCon says: Like it or not, we are succeeding in Iraq.
Who’s “we?” Did you just come back from a tour of duty in Iraq? What’s your definition of succeeding? What’s your evidence? What are your sources? Are you talking short term or long term? What your definition of failure? Without providing ALL of this information, your words mean nothing.
There is no civil war? Who can look at that picture and not cry? Bush&Co should burn in hell after they are tried, convicted and punished every day of their remaining lives.
I am with Smedley — the pain I feel for the Iraqis far exceeds what I could ever feel for Bush&Co and his Republican party.
I don’t want to be partisan. I want to just pick the best candidate for the job. I have issues with some Democrats and some Democrat positions. I’m very disappointed that the Democrats didn’t resist with all of their abilities the evil that Bush & Co. have rendered. Some of them I will not support. But how can I ever vote for a Republican when I know that they supported Bush’s Iraq war and his other outrages in almost always straight party-line votes?
Smedley, I agree with you completely. And I really hate the fact that the rest of the world thinks that all Americans are as despicable and inhuman as this administration.
That picture probably got the photographer killed.I am so weary of this horror show masquerading as our government.From the US troops who are deceived into believing that they are defending our “freedom” to the innocent civilians killed outright for no reason,this debacle is taking its toll.All for greed.
41# Your argument that Saddam was worse than the picture is not true. The Iraq dictatorship under saddam does by no means have the worst human rights records by a long long shot
which makes your argument wrong
And if you dont know about the Iraq Iran war and who really were the culprits for this ( Britain and America )
Smedley, you’re damm right, mate. I used to be pretty pro-US, but now I know they’ve gone over to the dark side.
Europe should just give up on them — they’re all right-wing Christian fundies, anyway. Let’s just hope we don’t get caught up in the revenge attacks they justly deserve from the Iraqis.
#37 & #42 Sorry to say, but this is an old picture, and was one of the result of a bombing done by the USA. Really. Search for the history of the photo in the web. Well before the full blown insurrection and, I think, before the 4 Blackwater mercenaries incident.
NeoCon allies desert Bush over Iraq
The right-wing intellectuals who demanded George Bush invade Iraq now admit they got it wrong. Are you listening, Mr President?
Accuracy in reporting news is important, BUT, that this horrible picture is a couple of years old does not take away from the evil that is this unwarranted and illegal war, that the US inflicted on innocent people in Iraq.
I think we are all in agreement.
Tour, newneocon, seth ii don’t represent MOST republicans. They represent that paranoid/delusional section of the reichtwingnutz that thinks that only THEY are god’s chosen people and everyone else will burn in hell. Shit, just look at tours rantings earlier in this thread. Most people would call that mental instability. No, they just represent the loudest & most fanatical portions of the American Taliban(?).
But, MOST (if not almost ALL) republicans are guilty of letting their party become controlled by (hopefully) a minority viewpoint of the party and not saying squat against their fanatical interpretation of government here in the US. So as much as I don’t think most of ‘em think that way, they are ALL equally culpible in allowing this to happen.
Turn it around this fall. Let’s do everything we can to get a majority in the Senate AND the House. Impeachemnt will then become a reality. & that’s how we save our nation w/o having to wait till 08.
Seems like we’re unleashed the ‘dogs of Hell’, in Iraq. What a perfect cover for all personal and private grudges, vengence, torture, kidnapping, murder, hatred, and blame it on the terrorist, or ethnic hatred. I don’t doubt there will eventually be a civil war, the question being WHEN, not IF. The surrounding countries are watching and waiting. Even a layman knows Iraq cannot stand on it’s own, if we pull out. (and I’m for troop withdrawal Now) We’ve laid Iraq wide open for a take-over from any of it’s surrounding neighbors. Their only hope would be to align themselves with one who offer them the best deal. I’ve heard if we pull out, the Krudes want to go independent from the rest of the country. Anyway you look at it, it’s going to be an on-going blood bath.
Freedom is on the march
March 8th, 2006 at 3:01 pmIn a related story, several schools in Tikrit were painted a very nice beige tone and some US troops in Fallujah handed out George W. Bush action figures at a mosque opening.
-GSD
March 8th, 2006 at 3:03 pmMetaphorically speaking it sounds like the new Bushco Empire of America.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:05 pmMission Accomplished – yea take a bow King dumbya
March 8th, 2006 at 3:06 pmYup, we’re making the world a better place.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:13 pmIraq is “going very, very well, from everything you look at”. – General Peter Pace
If it’s going very, very well then I hate to see when it’s not going well.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:18 pmYour nation is a bag of shit
March 8th, 2006 at 3:19 pmWe are really making progress. What every Iraqi is asking :was Sadam Hussein that bad ? If this democracy ? or are the news just a figment of the american press Rummy and Pace think so .
March 8th, 2006 at 3:24 pmContinue to cheer for death and destruction. This will all be noted.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:31 pmWell, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040423-14.html
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
April 23, 2004
Remarks by the President at Victory 2004 Reception
Hyatt Regency Hotel
Coral Gables, Florida
…there are no longer mass graves and torture rooms and rape rooms in Iraq. – President George W. Bush
March 8th, 2006 at 3:33 pmOK, so we know Bush is a pathological liar, how come the press doesn’t make a big deal of it? Perhaps a concerted effort to write leters to the press and to call radio talk shows with a litany of Bush’s lies. If people hear it enough they just might realize they are being hoodwinked.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:41 pmContinue to cheer for death and destruction. This will all be noted.
Comment by Tour De Farce — March 8, 2006 @ 3:31 pm
wwallace,
Who is rooting for death and destruction? Do you not understand the post? Did you read the article? We are decrying that, as a consequence of the US invasion, sectarian violence is now commonplace in Iraq.
Where do you see anyone “rooting”?
March 8th, 2006 at 3:43 pmNegropronte death squads of the 1980’s .He was big on this sort of action in Central America. Nuns murdered,priest murdered,villagers,Pregant women in Ravines all the handiwork of John Negropronte! bush has put into play a take over of this country by the means of deception.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:45 pmComment by Tour De Farce — March 8, 2006 @ 3:31 pm
What, are you taking notes for someone you Goddamn creep.
The pools of blood in Iraq are not on my hands. It is all on Bush’s, and the Neoconartists. They wanted this. You wanted this.
Now you all don’t like it anymore because it didn’t go the way the intellectual war mongers plannned.
Heckuva job.
-GSD
March 8th, 2006 at 3:46 pm#12 – it sounds like cheering to me.
AND did you forget all the bodies we dug up that Hussein laid to rest?
Do you love your country or are you so blinded with hatred for the President that death and destruction in Iraq make you orgasmic?
I PITY the left. You will pay for your crimes.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:47 pm#14 – you will pay for your crimes.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:47 pm#14, in re: your “I PITY the left. You will pay for your crimes.”
Thank you, Dread Dormammu, for taking the time away from applying OXY5 to your pimpled teen face.
Let me guess: you still enjoy drawing tanks in Study Hall.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:55 pm#14, in re: your “I PITY the left. You will pay for your crimes.â€
I do apologize. That was your Mr. T. impersonation, not your Dread Dormammu.
March 8th, 2006 at 3:57 pm“#14 – you will pay for your crimes.”
Comment by Tour De Farce — March 8, 2006 @ 3:47 pm
Typical fascist/totalitarian rhetoric. Used by Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Saddam, Idi Amin, Pinochet and all other oppresive regimes…apparently now the Bush/Rove regime.
Your threats mean nothing to me.
-GSD
March 8th, 2006 at 4:01 pm#17 and #18, in re: your
“#14, in re: your ‘I PITY the left. You will pay for your crimes.’”
You meant #16.
Thanks,
Yourself
March 8th, 2006 at 4:03 pm“Do you love your country or are you so blinded with hatred for the President that death and destruction in Iraq make you orgasmic?”
You are getting “orgasmic” about making American citizens “pay for their crimes.” You fascists can’t even keep your rhetoric consistent.
-GSD
March 8th, 2006 at 4:04 pm#15. Let me be perfectly clear: I love my country. I am not cheering. I am not orgasmic. I do not hate the President.
I am horrified by the crimes that he commits in my name. I fear we will all pay for those crimes.
March 8th, 2006 at 4:05 pmIt is not the left that worships the death in Iraq. It is the right. You are projecting your sickness on the left. You love the dead US troops, torture, the bombings, the beheadings, the dead civilians.
This is what you on the right love.
Congratulations, you have your blood and death.
At least Bush could make it to a funeral of a single troop.
-GSD
March 8th, 2006 at 4:07 pmTypical of the neocons. You push your plan through over the objections of thinking people, and when things go badly you blame those who tried to warn you against it.
I pity the neocons. They may or may not pay for their crimes.
March 8th, 2006 at 4:08 pmThey guy who coined the term freedom fries has recanted, become an opponent of the war, and has gone to more soldiers’ funerals than the entire Bush cabinet.
March 8th, 2006 at 4:09 pmmany posts here just show exactly how ignorant and arogant the right wing goverment and supporters are, Im not waisting another moment of my life in here . Goodbye to you decent Liberal Americans and may destruction fall upon all the others as it will
March 8th, 2006 at 4:11 pm“We’ll be greeted with sweets and flowers” — and severed heads, tortured bodies, and dead children. The stain of GWB will never leave this country.
March 8th, 2006 at 4:18 pmListen to the BBC with john Snow Interview with Larijani in Iraq
Hear how cool Larinjani is
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-reports/special-reports-storypage.jsp?id=1885
press Watch this interview
March 8th, 2006 at 4:50 pmAsked what he felt about America’s UN ambassador John Bolton’s threat that Iran faces ‘painful consequences’ as the US will use every tool to prevent Iran progressing towards a nuclear weapon:
ALI LARIJANI: “It seems to me that this is one of those comments that cannot be done – this is the problem and this tells me about the weakness of the Americans.. They have to save themselves from the quagmire of Iraq ….”
He continued:
“I think that all the opinions of the political pundits can see the unilateral actions of the US in my part of the world and these have all had detrimental effects.
For the Americans they are bullying and they want to establish democracy as they see it in Iraq. This is the current situation they see in Iraq as a result.
The first day they went into Iraq they said that ‘we want to start a wave of democracy so that their neighbours understand that but they have created a massacre . ”
JON SNOW: But this is Iran – do you think they want to come in here? Do they want to attack you?
ALI LARIJANI: “I think that the Americans, well if they think correctly about their best interests and think rationally, they won’t entertain such futile thoughts.
They have many problems – these comments are made basically because they cannot analyse the situation correctly and that is why they make such comments, therefore we don’t attach a lot of importance or value to such comments”.
SNOW: Does Iran want to build a nuclear bomb?
ALI ARIJANI The national security doctrine of Iran has no place for an atomic bomb – we don’t need such a thought and we have announced as much time and again.
And the agency in its latest report after 3 years of inspections and studying, the Iranian nuclear technology in its latest report it has announced that we have found no documents relating to diversion on the part of Iran.
This sensationalism that Americans and a number of other countries are fanning is a political story it is not a real issue”
watch the interview if only Bush was as wise as Larinjani as understanding things like tribal sovereigty
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-reports/special-reports-storypage.jsp?id=1885
March 8th, 2006 at 4:53 pm#12
March 8th, 2006 at 4:54 pmWhat are you talking about? The old media in this country has been praying and hoping for a civil war for three years now and they thought they had their wish two weeks ago. Sorry to disappoint. After the Iraqi elections in December, there was hardly any mention and certainly no cheering by the media. All of the Iraqi people want freedom, not civil war. It is only the left in America and Al Qaeda that want civil war. Like it or not, we are succeeding in Iraq.
#30 What are you talking about? Give an example of someone praying for civil war.
Those elections are hardly winning. There’s more to democracy than an election. Perhaps you should take a camera to Iraq and send us photographic evidence of our victory there. If not, tell us why not.
March 8th, 2006 at 5:11 pm31# actually I’m hoping for a civil war – But In America
March 8th, 2006 at 5:29 pmTo America Thank you for Images like this

March 8th, 2006 at 5:37 pmMan I feel so much pain for the poor Iraqis more than i will ever feel for Bush and most Americans in my lifetime
March 8th, 2006 at 5:40 pmThat poor girl. Thanks for not leaving Smedley, we need your passion.
March 8th, 2006 at 5:59 pmFrom #30:
NewNonNeoCon says: The old media in this country has been praying and hoping for a civil war for three years now and they thought they had their wish two weeks ago.
You have no idea of what “the old media” has been thinking. “The old media” is made up of people who are your neighbors and fellows citizens. Who ARE you?
NewNonNeoCon says: Sorry to disappoint.
You can’t disappoint anyone here. You have no power.
NewNonNeoCon says: After the Iraqi elections in December, there was hardly any mention and certainly no cheering by the media.
That’s because nothing was decided in December. Iraqi went through the motions of voting. Results weren’t even final and official until recently. The president hasn’t been chosen yet. The parliment hasn’t met yet. Nothing has truly happened yet.
NewNonNeoCon says: All of the Iraqi people want freedom, not civil war.
Of course the vast majority of people want freedom from tyranny and war. But then people do irrational things when they are very angry and when they have nothing left, nothing to lose. There are those in Russian though who long for the return of dictatorial communism and still believe Stalin was a good guy. Weird.
NewNonNeoCon says: It is only the left in America and Al Qaeda that want civil war.
Okay, here you are just a troll idiot.
NewNonNeoCon says: Like it or not, we are succeeding in Iraq.
Who’s “we?” Did you just come back from a tour of duty in Iraq? What’s your definition of succeeding? What’s your evidence? What are your sources? Are you talking short term or long term? What your definition of failure? Without providing ALL of this information, your words mean nothing.
March 8th, 2006 at 6:02 pmThere is no civil war? Who can look at that picture and not cry? Bush&Co should burn in hell after they are tried, convicted and punished every day of their remaining lives.
March 8th, 2006 at 6:03 pmI am with Smedley — the pain I feel for the Iraqis far exceeds what I could ever feel for Bush&Co and his Republican party.
I don’t want to be partisan. I want to just pick the best candidate for the job. I have issues with some Democrats and some Democrat positions. I’m very disappointed that the Democrats didn’t resist with all of their abilities the evil that Bush & Co. have rendered. Some of them I will not support. But how can I ever vote for a Republican when I know that they supported Bush’s Iraq war and his other outrages in almost always straight party-line votes?
March 8th, 2006 at 6:20 pmSmedley, I agree with you completely. And I really hate the fact that the rest of the world thinks that all Americans are as despicable and inhuman as this administration.
March 8th, 2006 at 6:55 pmNegroponte.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:30 pmAnd tell me, this is better than what Saddam did to his people? God help us all.
March 8th, 2006 at 8:35 pmThat picture probably got the photographer killed.I am so weary of this horror show masquerading as our government.From the US troops who are deceived into believing that they are defending our “freedom” to the innocent civilians killed outright for no reason,this debacle is taking its toll.All for greed.
March 8th, 2006 at 9:59 pm41# Your argument that Saddam was worse than the picture is not true. The Iraq dictatorship under saddam does by no means have the worst human rights records by a long long shot
which makes your argument wrong
And if you dont know about the Iraq Iran war and who really were the culprits for this ( Britain and America )
March 9th, 2006 at 4:15 amooooopps i read it wrong 41
March 9th, 2006 at 4:16 am#33 “To America Thank you for Images like this”
Smedley, you’re damm right, mate. I used to be pretty pro-US, but now I know they’ve gone over to the dark side.
Europe should just give up on them — they’re all right-wing Christian fundies, anyway. Let’s just hope we don’t get caught up in the revenge attacks they justly deserve from the Iraqis.
March 9th, 2006 at 5:32 amthey’re all right-wing Christian fundies, anyway.
Comment by “Old” Europe is more civilised than youse! — March 9, 2006 @ 5:32 am
By posting this comment on a blog of people who decry the things that Bushco does like the picture, makes you the oxymoron of the day
March 9th, 2006 at 5:57 am#37 & #42 Sorry to say, but this is an old picture, and was one of the result of a bombing done by the USA. Really. Search for the history of the photo in the web. Well before the full blown insurrection and, I think, before the 4 Blackwater mercenaries incident.
March 9th, 2006 at 6:24 amThe article related to the image: BBC’s article
March 9th, 2006 at 6:46 am47# the picture came from Britsh and American bombings of baghdad
the image came from http://www.robert-fisk.com/
without the frame set is here
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
The point I was making is obvious. There was and still is no need for this
March 9th, 2006 at 7:42 amNeoCon allies desert Bush over Iraq
The right-wing intellectuals who demanded George Bush invade Iraq now admit they got it wrong. Are you listening, Mr President?
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article350092.ece
March 9th, 2006 at 8:43 am#49 Yes, I know, but I got the BBC’s link from the robertfisk web. I was only providing adequate backgroud to the photo.
And yes, the Iraq war has been a mistake from the very beginning, and before.
March 9th, 2006 at 8:50 amAccuracy in reporting news is important, BUT, that this horrible picture is a couple of years old does not take away from the evil that is this unwarranted and illegal war, that the US inflicted on innocent people in Iraq.
March 9th, 2006 at 9:13 amI think we are all in agreement.
OK, let’s be realistic.
Tour, newneocon, seth ii don’t represent MOST republicans. They represent that paranoid/delusional section of the reichtwingnutz that thinks that only THEY are god’s chosen people and everyone else will burn in hell. Shit, just look at tours rantings earlier in this thread. Most people would call that mental instability. No, they just represent the loudest & most fanatical portions of the American Taliban(?).
But, MOST (if not almost ALL) republicans are guilty of letting their party become controlled by (hopefully) a minority viewpoint of the party and not saying squat against their fanatical interpretation of government here in the US. So as much as I don’t think most of ‘em think that way, they are ALL equally culpible in allowing this to happen.
Turn it around this fall. Let’s do everything we can to get a majority in the Senate AND the House. Impeachemnt will then become a reality. & that’s how we save our nation w/o having to wait till 08.
March 9th, 2006 at 10:20 amSeems like we’re unleashed the ‘dogs of Hell’, in Iraq. What a perfect cover for all personal and private grudges, vengence, torture, kidnapping, murder, hatred, and blame it on the terrorist, or ethnic hatred. I don’t doubt there will eventually be a civil war, the question being WHEN, not IF. The surrounding countries are watching and waiting. Even a layman knows Iraq cannot stand on it’s own, if we pull out. (and I’m for troop withdrawal Now) We’ve laid Iraq wide open for a take-over from any of it’s surrounding neighbors. Their only hope would be to align themselves with one who offer them the best deal. I’ve heard if we pull out, the Krudes want to go independent from the rest of the country. Anyway you look at it, it’s going to be an on-going blood bath.
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