Vice President Dick Cheney, in a speech this week to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee:
Over the past four years, other free nations have risen in the broader Middle East. … Across that region, the political dialogue has been transformed — and politicians, scholars, students, and men and women from every walk of life are talking about freedom, equal rights, and accountable institutions of government. One leader in Lebanon said: “When I saw the Iraqi people voting, it was the start of a new Arab world…The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing. The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it.”
The “leader in Lebanon” whose analysis Cheney apparently trusts is Walid Jumblatt, a racist anti-Semite who has celebrated the deaths of U.S. soldiers and referred to Condoleezza Rice as “oil-colored.” A few of Jumblatt’s low lights:
– “We are all happy when U.S. soldiers are killed [in Iraq] week in and week out. The killing of U.S. soldiers in Iraq is legitimate and obligatory.” [Link]
– “The oil axis is present in most of the U.S. administration, beginning with its president, vice-president and top advisers, including (Condoleezza) Rice, who is oil-colored, while the axis of Jews is present with Paul Wolfowitz, the leading hawk who is inciting (America) to occupy and destroy Iraq.” [Link]
– “In November 2003, the United States revoked Jumblatt’s diplomatic visa for wishing out loud that Wolfowitz had been killed in a Baghdad rocket attack.” [Link]
So why did Cheney quote Jumblatt? Maybe because they’re the only two who believe that reform in Lebanon was inspired by the Iraq war: “‘I’ve never heard it from anybody except Walid Jumblatt,’ laughs Jamil Mroue, editor-in-chief of Beirut’s Daily Star newspaper.”
next Cheney will tell us of his “final solution” for Middle East peace…
March 10th, 2006 at 11:25 amLOL, I guess you look for positive quotes wherever you can find them.
March 10th, 2006 at 11:26 amWell, it’s about time Cheney return the gesture, Jumblatt has been quoting Cheney for years.
March 10th, 2006 at 11:30 amHow else would he instill fear in his citizens and keep them submissive?
Hail to the Dick Tater.
Go f*ck yourself, Mr. Cheney.
March 10th, 2006 at 11:32 amAnd try not to shoot anyone else in the face.
Ummmm…. OOOOOOPSIE!
March 10th, 2006 at 11:35 amAmazing!!! Sadly I am no longer shocked by what comes out of the mouths of the Bushies, especially The Dark Prince Cheney. It appears the administration has been successful at one thing putting their feet in their mouths.
When will this man resign and crawl back under the rock he came from
March 10th, 2006 at 11:35 amMaybe Cheney’s just having a secret laugh at his audience, who probably didn’t realize the quote’s context.
March 10th, 2006 at 11:37 amThe sad truth is he probably dosen’t know who Jumblatt is either. Just did a Google search for a quote he could use most likely.
March 10th, 2006 at 11:38 amLet me guess we are about to form a strategic partnership with The Lebanese people and he , VP Cheney, is accepting resumes. Sorta like that guy who mysteriously took a 30 day leave of absence right after Ahmed Chalibi came up short in the elections and Chalibi was offered his job. Recruitment with loyal palm greasing, I’m sorry, Carrots not sticks. This is how Rumsfeld groomed Saddam. This is pure squeeze on the Syrians.This administration reminds me of a long balloon, anywhere you squeeze it to relieve pressure in one spot it just inflates it some where else. Question is when does it pop?
March 10th, 2006 at 11:39 amCheney couldn’t care less. But maybe, just maybe, people here in the good ‘ol USA are starting to awake to the very evil facts surrounding this administration.
More and more people, particularly Republicans, disapprove of President Bush’s performance, question his character and no longer consider him a strong leader against terrorism, according to an AP-Ipsos poll documenting one of the bleakest points of his presidency.
Nearly four out of five Americans, including 70 percent of Republicans, believe civil war will break out in
Iraq — the bloody hot spot upon which Bush has staked his presidency. Nearly 70 percent of people say the U.S. is on the wrong track, a 6-point jump since February…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060310/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_ap_poll
So, WingNuts, defend that!
March 10th, 2006 at 11:39 amDead-eye Dicky Cheney must resign or be impeached before he starts WWIII on Iran and/or shoots somebody else in the face!
March 10th, 2006 at 11:40 amMy mind is a filthy pit.
Which is how I suddenly thought in response to number 4 that Bill and Dick have something in common:
Both unloaded on someone’s face.
March 10th, 2006 at 11:43 amDick was speaking to conservatives, and we all know they wouldn’t have the intellectual power or curiosity to find out who and what Walid Jumblatt is.
March 10th, 2006 at 11:46 amOn the stock market, could we find Condi in the category of “light sweet crude”?
March 10th, 2006 at 11:46 amNeD? Tracy? NeD in all of his other forms? IRI? Anyone “man” enough to address this? I know you like a good debate, right? So, let’s discuss. What are your thoughts about Cheney’s quote?
March 10th, 2006 at 11:46 amBruce, Bill only hit the dress… no facial there…
March 10th, 2006 at 11:46 am#14 HAAAAAAAA, you slay me.
March 10th, 2006 at 11:46 amWhat’s the big deal? One bigoted fascist quoting another…….who’d a thunk it..
March 10th, 2006 at 11:51 amSo, where are our resident trolls that jump to defense of the failures currently residing in the White House?
Could it be they’ve found out that VPres. Cheney is cherry-picking his quotes, and that’s something they’ve always blamed on Liberals and Democrats?
March 10th, 2006 at 11:59 amDidn’t the people who elected him know that he wasn’t in to details? What happens when your faith in your faithful leaders vanishes? I guess maybe people might start to use something other than Trust Me as a new support system, while the monkey tries to put the cork back in the elephant’s ass. We have become Enron with an Army, and
March 10th, 2006 at 12:05 pmthe rules have been broken, but some how power, money and energy are all that matter.I resent having to pay for it. Conservatives are for smaller govt.. The part YOU control. So what is it Conservatives like about their big government? Ask one today. Try the word Shame, they use it all the time on Hollywood just get them to admit, principles need to be reassessed to fit the times. Oh those Tax and Spend Liberals, well I guess it’s just those Taxing Liberals now, because how else are we going to pay for the War and baby boomers? The GOP is just irresponsible and I fear them more than I do any terrorist group.
Cheney wants to go into Iran. He wants a war. The people in America has to stand up against Cheney. We do not need another war.
March 10th, 2006 at 12:06 pmCan anyone imagine the new Arab world that would arise if the U.S. Military so much as fires one missle across the Euphrates into Iran?
March 10th, 2006 at 12:10 pmYikesee……….
Walid Jumblatt has to say those things so that the moon worshiping Islamofacists dont behead him. He is actually a christian operative that has been feeding “secret” information to us on the right that we are going to use to totally discredit the democrats in the elections…he has something up our sleeves…
March 10th, 2006 at 12:12 pm#12 – I’m SHOCKED, just SHOCKED at your comment! ;)
March 10th, 2006 at 12:13 pmWhen will this man resign and crawl back under the rock he came from
He still has to get that $1,000,000,000,000.00 no bid contract for Halliburton to steal whatever is left in the Treasury, and we know how hard that work is.
March 10th, 2006 at 12:22 pmChainey has firmly anchored his role as Gollum in my adaptation of ‘Lord of the Things’
March 10th, 2006 at 12:22 pmDick probably had a shotgun in his hand when he made the speech. That would keep a crowd quiet I would think.
March 10th, 2006 at 12:26 pmif you go to cnn.com’s homepage right now you’ll find on the front page a picture of George Bush speaking about how this failed UAE ports deal is going to hurt our reputation with “allies” in the middle east.
the look on bush’s face is just so “i hate america”
i swear, there must be an arab in the bush bloodline for him to be so vehemently opposed to protecting americans.
all these right wing bush fans out there ought to be ashamed of themselves.
if a democrat had been president during 9-11 there would have been no second term. in fact, there would have been no “second year as president.” he would have been fired.
right wing americans should think twice about why they wave their american flags when they go to the polls and vote for Bush (Saudi Arabia) and Cheney (Halliburton). they should think twice about why they have yet to question bush failing US on 9-11.
March 10th, 2006 at 12:28 pmOh, and Admiral Poindexter, if you are listening, you are the BALROG
March 10th, 2006 at 12:32 pm“and the dwarf data miners dug to far into the deep and awakened a great evil from the past”
Dear JC – The Repubs cited in this poll were from where, Rhode Island? Santa Monica? Madison, Wisconsin?
March 10th, 2006 at 12:41 pmI suppose the trolls will stop attacking us as anti-semitic. If they do, we sure have the ammunition. Boy, after this last year and the last few months, in particular, I am fully loaded.
March 10th, 2006 at 12:47 pm#30 Scraping the bottom, eh? Funny stuff. You don’t even know who you hate anymore.
March 10th, 2006 at 12:49 pmFace it, Aphro, you are defending the indefensible and just look stupid doing it. But, by all means, keep posting your crazy messages; no one can read your nonsense anyway. Learn English.
March 10th, 2006 at 12:50 pm“Walid Jumblatt has to say those things so that the moon worshiping Islamofacists dont behead him. He is actually a christian operative that has been feeding “secret†information to us on the right that we are going to use to totally discredit the democrats in the elections…he has something up our sleeves…”
Walid Jumblatt is not a Christian, he is a Druze. That makes him Muslim. You are an idiot.
Thanks!
March 10th, 2006 at 12:53 pmTypical Cheney. By any means possible. You got a problem with that? Then go f#$% yourself.
The danger here is that Cheney has become a walking parody of himself. His kitchen sink of evil is fun to skewer. Though the impact of said evil continues to maim, kill, torture and prevaricate at will.
March 10th, 2006 at 12:54 pmIs refereing to someone comments an act of anti-semitism?
March 10th, 2006 at 1:01 pmBill and Dick should have a shoot out
March 10th, 2006 at 1:01 pmhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45575-2005Feb22.html
cheney’s referring to this:
“Jumblatt dresses like an ex-hippie, in jeans and loafers, but he maintains the exquisite manners of a Lebanese aristocrat. Over the years, I’ve often heard him denouncing the United States and Israel, but these days, in the aftermath of Hariri’s death, he’s sounding almost like a neoconservative. He says he’s determined to defy the Syrians until their troops leave Lebanon and the Lahoud government is replaced.
“It’s strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq,” explains Jumblatt. “I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world.” Jumblatt says this spark of democratic revolt is spreading. “The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing. The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it.” ”
know half the story. get angry. curse the leaders of the free world. visit thinkprogress.org today!
comment #7, joke’s on you. #35, “mediabloodhound”? sniff harder.
March 10th, 2006 at 1:02 pmMany people think and you can easily find info on walid jumblatt is the Son of Perdition coming AntiChrist
March 10th, 2006 at 1:05 pmas discribed in the Bible as were he will come from,also Cheney,and the Neo-Straussians as Children of Satan..
Geeeeez, you traitors!
Veep Cheney is the greatest american of all time. He knows how to kick arse when it comes to dealing with the enemies of God’s own country! He is a saint! Can we have it any better than that?
Bob
March 10th, 2006 at 1:13 pmGeeeeez, you traitors!
Veep Cheney is the greatest american of all time. He knows how to kick arse when it comes to dealing with the enemies of God’s own country! He is a saint! Can we have it any better than that?
Bob
March 10th, 2006 at 1:13 pmDear PP- Maybe we’ll withdraw the “earned” anti-Semitic moniker when naive progs withdraw their support of groups whose intent is set on the destruction of our ally, Israel. The wackos who participate at the ANSWER Coalition rallies and the treasonous Ramsey Clark are all part and parcel of your baggage – not ours.
March 10th, 2006 at 1:24 pmLooks like the “Crazy Bus” has arrived! Is there a full moon tonight?
March 10th, 2006 at 1:54 pmeveryone seems to have a problem with Dickless quoting someone who hates our troops. why is this a problem? when has the vice-coward ever done anything that was in the interest of our bravest citizens? they are all disposable commodities repulicans offer up to Godmoney. any and all of you who support this regime are not only traitors to America, you have also committed genocide. the blood of our troops is on your hands. you are war criminals aiding the destruction of our democracy with the lives of your own children. if there is a hell, you may want to add a provision in your will that ice water be left in your coffin. murderers.
March 10th, 2006 at 1:55 pmAnother selective use of information by the disinformation regime.
March 10th, 2006 at 2:00 pm#30, in re: your “Dear JC – The Repubs cited in this poll were from where, Rhode Island? Santa Monica? Madison, Wisconsin?”
Why does it matter where they are from?
March 10th, 2006 at 2:10 pm#32, in re: your “#30 Scraping the bottom, eh? Funny stuff. You don’t even know who you hate anymore.”
It’s feeding the troll, I know, but urging people to go on making themselves look stupid is great fun for me. Tee hee hee.
Anyway, I’d disagree with you here. I think M.A. knows exactly who she/he/it (I leave it to you to come up with a useful portmanteau-pronoun here) /hates/: anyone who isn’t she/he/it. Because the Other may have money she/he/it can’t get her/his/its hands on.
March 10th, 2006 at 2:13 pmGosh Glenn, wouldn’t you say it’s amazing how Repubs in the Northeast (and other “progressive” environs) are “different” than Repubs in “fly-over” country??? Have you noticed how most Southern Dems are a liiiittttle more conservative than urban and “progressive” Dems??? Let me guess – you’re a product of the public schools….
March 10th, 2006 at 2:16 pm#48, in re: your “Gosh Glenn, wouldn’t you say it’s amazing how Repubs in the Northeast (and other “progressive†environs) are “different†than Repubs in “fly-over†country???”
I’m guessing you mean different /from/. “Different than” is meaningless. I will also point out that the value of repeated punctuation marks is nugatory – not as bad as all caps (a neo-con favorite) but nearly so.
But to your point.
It would seem to me that a Repub in the Northeast would be (or would want to) emphasize his or her conservatism even /more/ if surrounded by mostly progressive types. I know that progressives surrounded by red-staters feel the equivalent. No?
March 10th, 2006 at 2:20 pm#46 – Becasue then they can make some bull-crap claim about how they’re not REAL Republicans.
Dont’ forget, if the poll is not in their favor, then attack the methodology of the poll or the so-called “bias” in the questions of the poll. if the poll is in their favor, the it’s a MANDATE! You know, like Pres. Bush’s 49.8% of the vote in 2000 was a mandate.
And here I thought a “mandate” was going on a date with a man. ;-)
March 10th, 2006 at 2:21 pm#48, in re: your “Let me guess – you’re a product of the public schools.”
I am very naive. This sounds like a class dig. Am I wrong? Please engage me in friendly dialogue on this topic.
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March 10th, 2006 at 2:27 pm#48, in re: your “Have you noticed how most Southern Dems are a liiiittttle more conservative than urban and “progressive†Dems???”
I omitted addressing this sentence, although it does bear the repeated question marks I alluded to before. They add nothing.
This sentence is interesting because it seems anyway to claim that there are no cities in the south (that is, what about southern urban democrats?). It is also something of a tautology to ask whether I have noticed that some “Dems are a liiiittttle more conservative than … “progressive†Dems???”
Would it be possible for you to re-phrase the question so that it makes sense, and remove the unnecessary punctuation to make it more pleasing to read?
Thanks.
March 10th, 2006 at 2:30 pm“Dear PP- Maybe we’ll withdraw the “earned†anti-Semitic moniker when naive progs withdraw their support of groups whose intent is set on the destruction of our ally, Israel. The wackos who participate at the ANSWER Coalition rallies and the treasonous Ramsey Clark are all part and parcel of your baggage – not ours. Comment by mighty moron”
You mean like how you were defending the UAE and DPW the other day despite the fact that they participate in an embargo against israel.
Republicans are such hypocrites, morons and fools.
March 10th, 2006 at 2:53 pm“…we’ll withdraw the “earned†anti-Semitic moniker when naive progs withdraw their support of groups whose intent is set on the destruction of our ally, Israel.”
You mean like our “Great Allie on the War on Terra” the UAE? You people are just SOOOO dumb, it’s sad. You’ll justify ANYthing that your heros say or do, even if it’s killing your own family. Wake Up, wouldya?
March 10th, 2006 at 2:55 pmMr. Glenn Becker, do you have issues with the presentaion of the thread or of it’s participants? This thread is about the topic, not to come in as critics. That’s like going to a girls JV basketball game and complaining about the lack of 3 pointers. To pose a question to a participant garauntees you no fidelity in understanding anything other than just words from anonymous poster. You need to direct your question to Nico. Also you get what you pay for so if your gramatical sensibilites are impugned please allow me to Triple the entrance fee you paid to participate in this blog.
March 10th, 2006 at 3:05 pm“Would it be possible for you to re-phrase the question so that it makes sense, and remove the unnecessary punctuation to make it more pleasing to read?” – - Glenn
*****No…..
*****As for public school vs. private school – it’s not a “CLASS dig” – it’s a dig at progs who enjoy projecting their racism onto the “po’ blacks” who would benefit from school vouchers – (Note from NEA, Teddy K., J. Kerry -”Can’t have THAT!!!) Many working class parents sacrifice to send their children to parochial and private schools. Remember the new Republican mantra: “Private schools aren’t just for trust fund kids anymore.”
March 10th, 2006 at 3:12 pmIf we are all lucky, really lucky, Cheneys spine will fall through his rather large asshole and hw will break his friggin neck.
March 10th, 2006 at 3:15 pm“*****As for public school vs. private school – it’s not a “CLASS dig†– it’s a dig at progs who enjoy projecting their racism onto the “po’ blacks†who would benefit from school vouchers – (Note from NEA, Teddy K., J. Kerry -â€Can’t have THAT!!!) Many working class parents sacrifice to send their children to parochial and private schools. Remember the new Republican mantra: “Private schools aren’t just for trust fund kids anymore.†Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
That’s one of the most retarded things you’ve ever written.
Your post is so riddled with ignorance, misconceptions and idiotic stereotyping you must be a republican. And by the way, this is the same old BORING Zzzzzzzzzz., crap posted by every republican about the school system. And guess what, you’re all idiots!
If you’re the product of private schools, then you individually prove what a crap product they currently produce.
March 10th, 2006 at 3:17 pm#57, in re: your “*****No…..”
I thought not. That’s okay with me. I was simply trying to spare you further embarrassment. But I must admit continuing to point out your gaffes in style and — more importantly — substance is much more fun.
Addressing your post further: “it’s a dig at progs who enjoy projecting their racism onto the ‘po’ blacks’ who would benefit from school vouchers.”
How does this apply to me? Your argument, if I may call it that, does not seem very cogent. Please be specific.
Further on: “THAT!!!”
The extra exclamation points add nothing. They do however make it appear as though you are trying to shout, which is familiar neo-con behavior. This is typically resorted to by people who have nothing substantive to say and yet will say it. It also makes you look unsophisticated, but that is probably part of your online persona. It is my suspicion that in real life you have neither breasts nor a vagina.
Further, “Many working class parents sacrifice to send their children to parochial and private schools.”
I’ll ask again, what is the point of this observation?
March 10th, 2006 at 3:20 pmFor the past five years bush/cheney have been able to lie and cheat without accountablity. They own congress and the press is too busy looking for the next runaway bride which garners a lot more ink then political corruption at the highest levels of our government. These clowns are done and they know it. Now they are just covering their tracks and insuring future income sources for themselves and the GOP.
March 10th, 2006 at 3:22 pm“That’s one of the most retarded things you’ve ever written.” – “Comment by RyANNe
March 10th, 2006 at 3:23 pm******But a factually true comment, nonetheless…..
Glenn,
MightyMoron is terribly unsophosticate. He/She claims to be the product of private schools, and legal training – yet the characteristics one would expect from either of these experiences never shows itself on this site. Perhaps He/She has hidden talents, but they are certainly reserved for other activities.
My guess is that He/She is another idiot nerd working as a sys-admin in a university. It explains the continous derogatory attacks on ‘professors’. And it matches the primitive and unsophisticated nature of all things mighty moronish.
March 10th, 2006 at 3:23 pm#63, in re: your “My guess is that He/She is another idiot nerd working as a sys-admin in a university.”
I doubt it. An SA, at least in the UNIX world, has to be able to think clearly. I haven’t seen a post from it yet that could be translated into declarative sentences.
March 10th, 2006 at 3:27 pm#60 – Glenn brilliantly posits (in hushed, refined tones)
“Addressing your post further: “it’s a dig at progs who enjoy projecting their racism onto the ‘po’ blacks’ who would benefit from school vouchers.â€
How does this apply to me?
*****Do your own work and examine the pros and cons of the school voucher argument.
“Further on: “THAT!!!â€
The extra exclamation points add nothing. They do however make it appear as though you are trying to shout, which is familiar neo-con behavior. This is typically resorted to by people who have nothing substantive to say and yet will say it. It also makes you look unsophisticated, but that is probably part of your online persona. It is my suspicion that in real life you have neither breasts nor a vagina.”
March 10th, 2006 at 3:33 pm******Glenn, my suspicions have just been confirmed – you are a “sophisticated legend in your own mind” and an ELITIST SNOB, who no doubt lacks a penis and testicles. Do you have a “brother” named RyANNe??
Secede Texas to the UAE.
March 10th, 2006 at 3:35 pmSend the Bush family back to the Sauds.
Send Dick back to Wyoming so he can fuck himself.
Send Condi back to Rummy.
Send KKKarl back to whatever cave he crawled out of.
There…does everyone feel better?
Oh, wait…Send W back to Yale, he flunked Civics!
#56, in re: your “Mr. Glenn Becker”
Mr. the fly man,
That’s “Dr.” to you, pal.
I don’t think “impugn” is the word you want. Go look it up. You should avoid using words you don’t know just because you think they will sound good.
Further: please tell me who (and what) the hell “Nico” is so that I may understand that sentence.
But I digress! My /point/, as I think I have repeatedly made clear, is that dialogue and argument can only be effectively carried out when the thoughts are expressed in a way that people can understand. Did you understand the previous sentence? I thought you did.
My issue with Mighty Morphoditey is that I can make neither head nor tail of what it is trying to express. And I am not being wantonly obtuse there, either. It cannot craft a simple, declarative sentence.
If all we can achieve here is name-calling, and not even directed or relevant (or funny) name-calling, what good is it? To get someone’s rocks off?
I am perfectly willing to argue and debate with conservatives, neo-cons, skinheads, WHOEVER IT MAY BE if they will only bring in ideas, concepts, thoughts, observations, what have you … and express them clearly.
Finally, I paid just as much to get in here as you, sir. Or madam.
March 10th, 2006 at 3:39 pmOr bot.
#65, in re: your “ELITIST SNOB”
Huh huh huh, you typed “ELITIST SNOB.”
Also: “Do your own work and examine the pros and cons of the school voucher argument.”
This is not a response to my question, which was: what does this have to do with me? Please post an answer to my question so we can have a friendly discussion about it.
And your “who no doubt lacks a penis and testicles. Do you have a “brother†named RyANNe??”
Whether either of us possesses gonads or not is a secondary point, surely. You will no doubt respond that I brought it up first. This is true. It is also true that since I brought it up first (and you simply responded in what was even for you a surprisingly unimaginative fashion), that it was funnier when I did it. Strike that. I meant to type that it was funny when I did it.
I admit that I do not know who “RyANNe” is, whether the name is typed with or without double question marks. Is it someone who posts as “Rye” but whom you suspect is really named “ANN”? I confess I don’t know, but I have seen you do this before, e.g. reference other people whom I have never met. I am not sure what effect you intend this to have.
March 10th, 2006 at 3:48 pmDr. becker your point is still invalid. You are trying to catagorically qualify response to this thread as a definitive assessment of what? Something being sold as Progressive? If I wanted to garner information about Neoconservatives i would not subject my energy to disciples and fans who participate I would engage the founders of this school of thought. IE: Bill Kristol, Douglas Feith, et al. You are picking on the innocent bystander but not willing to engage the source. This must be from your years of blind faith in the GOP. Can’t correct your family, blame the neighbors. Term limits for the lot of you all. Got Spine?
March 10th, 2006 at 3:50 pm#72, in re: your incomprehensible “This must be from your years of blind faith in the GOP.”
Mr. the fly-man,
!!!!
You win. I have no idea what’s going on.
Blind. Faith. In. The. GOP??
March 10th, 2006 at 3:55 pmDr. Becker, you know the fact, that if all the selling points of the GOP were availbale to review IE: the Top 10 reasons I belong to the GOP, i believe they’re would be a substantial level of adjustment necessary to continue carrying the Flag. Ie; #1) SMALLER Government. Makes a conservative feel proud doesn’t it. #2) States rights, what happened after Gonazales V. Oregon. Man it sure was quiet over at the National Review. 3#) Sami Al-Arian, this was the poster child case for Palestinian-Hammas funded terrorism in this country wasn’t it? 21 counts 13 aquited 8 hung. You should read the Captain’s Qtr and Redstate just to keep you up on lunacy. I’d rather be a an optimist than apologist.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:04 pmDear Dr. Becker – Is that MD?? Or PhD??? Or perhaps, EdD???
March 10th, 2006 at 4:08 pmI’ll be willing to bet (note the use of the contraction “I’ll” in this informal discussion) that you use the title “Dr.” when placing dinner reservations – and your snobbery forces you to correct those who are indecent enough to address you as “Mr.”
Jumblatt was featured on Charlie Rose last night. Rose can’t wait to mouth the repugs lines and grovel before their heros.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:10 pm““That’s one of the most retarded things you’ve ever written.†– “Comment by RyANNe
******But a factually true comment, nonetheless…… Comment by mighty Moron”
As usual, the resident republican Moron posts an OxyMoron, but is too retarded to recognize it. Hey bag of rocks, the reason it it’s retarded is that there’s NOTHING factual about your little rant.
Republicans are consistently such retarded fools.
And while we’re on private schools, it’s too bad yours never taught grammar and punctuation. Maybe you wouldn’t look like such an illiterate idiot if you’d learned those skills.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:14 pm“Dear Dr. Becker – Is that MD?? Or PhD??? Or perhaps, EdD??? MightyMoron”
Your credential and education envy is showing there bumpkin. It’s always so funny how the morons like mighty idiot always claim to be professionals, and decry those who actually are. What trade school did you go to again old semi-literate one?
And Glenn, the term RyANNE is how our resident Transexual republican troll tries to ‘emasculate’ me for directly confronting ‘IT’. It’s consistent with the ManCoulter school of HellBitch hatery. It’s just the desperation of the sexually confused Reichwinger who projects his/her ambiguity on others. MightyMoron is just another hatemongering republican whacko.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:18 pmI guess Cheney (and his staff monkeys) don’t have access to the “In-ter-net” or he might have found this out ahead of time. Or he just doesn’t give a crap.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:22 pm“*****Do your own work and examine the pros and cons of the school voucher argument. MightyMoron”
You should take your own medicine MisterMoron.
The school voucher programs in Milwaukee showed no statistical improvement in education, but it did undermine public funding of schools. Something that the Fascist doctrine loves, as it believes public funding is ‘evil commie’ behavior.
One of the single biggest impacts on school performance is class size.
“******Glenn, my suspicions have just been confirmed – you are a “sophisticated legend in your own mind†and an ELITIST SNOB, who no doubt lacks a penis and testicles. Do you have a “brother†named RyANNe?? mighty aphrodite ”
It’s ironic you call others an elitist snob, and the deride anyone for not being ‘educated’. You’re such a hypocrite, idiot and fool!!!
Bahaha, seeing your posts is like watching ann coulter coming of ‘X’.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:24 pmThank you, RyaNNe, for picking up the gaunlet for the busy doctor. Such an excellent little valet, you are, RyANNe.
RyANNe – how dare you call Dr. Becker “Glenn”. He has earned that title – unless it’s an honorary degree….
Dr. Becker, Calling Dr. Becker….
March 10th, 2006 at 4:30 pm“Thank you, RyaNNe, for picking up the gaunlet for the busy doctor. Such an excellent little valet, you are, RyANNe. MightyTranny”
When you get a chance, let the good doctor give you a sex re-assignment, and counseling for your psychotic behavior.
“RyANNe – how dare you call Dr. Becker “Glennâ€. He has earned that title – unless it’s an honorary degree….
Dr. Becker, Calling Dr. Becker…. mighty liar”
How dare you pretend to be an american, a human being, or a woman. Obviously you’re neither. But you make a great nazi moron, just like Coulter, Saunders and the rest of the reichwing idiot brigade.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:34 pmBy the way MightyMoron, I corrected your Private School Voucher idiocy MONTHS ago. Just because you’re too RETARDED (YAWN!) to remember or read, don’t subject everyone to your ignorance.
Don’t you have a prisoner to go torture, or an indian tribe to rob heir tranny?
March 10th, 2006 at 4:35 pmDr. Becker….Paging Dr. Becker….P.S Pssst….FYI…”a Nico” is the name of the person who moderates this thread.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:41 pm“Dr. Becker….Paging Dr. Becker….P.S Pssst….FYI…â€a Nico†is the name of the person who moderates this thread.
Comment by mighty Moron”
Dr. Dingbat, paging Dr. Dingbat. Reality is waiting for you to claim it. Or do you prefer to ignore the racism, bigotry, ignorance and hatred that you seem so comfortable to live with.
Isn’t it ironic everyone. This republican troll criticizes people for being stupid because they attend public school, then criticizes PHD’s for being ‘educated’ and ‘elite’.
Hey MightyMoron, that’s called SCHIZOPHRENIA. But then I am posting with MightyMoron the Dr. of Dumb. Asking you to recognize exactly how stupid and retarded you are is kind of like asking a rock to look in the mirror. I just enjoy knowing how so many people can see you for the idiot hypocrite that you are.
At this point 70% of americans say the country is going in the wrong direction. Only the truly stupid, truly delusional and truly ignorant like you still live in the fantasy that is CONservatism. You can CON yourself, but to everyone else you’re an idiot.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:45 pmHey MightyMoron,
Before you say vouchers are good, you might look at the amount of evidence that show how ineffective they are at improving education.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/choice/
The results were SOOOO poor, relative to the expectations – that the ‘pro-voucher’ crowd stopped measuring metrics.
In fact:
“Even some advocates for vouchers are focused on the need to improve the quality of some schools. Other changes could come from the Legislature, regulators, or the grass roots where the schools and their students operate.”
Sound familiar? Vouchers still had ‘poor schools’ just like the public school system where children weren’t getting educated properly.
You’re such a naive and pathetic idiot. You can’t even post good propaganda. Rove should fire you, you just make everyone believe you and the rest of the republicans are all like Mike Brown and just as ‘competent’.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:53 pmDamn. I thought Ryan Neat was gone. He is just as bad as Mighty A. Just goes to show that out of any group of people that share the same opinions, there are always some that don’t have a clue how to behave.
March 10th, 2006 at 4:55 pmBob,
Oh please. I post facts, references and links (see above). Just because you don’t have enough of a spine to stand up to these fascist morons, don’t criticize me because I do.
If you have an issue with my content, please correct me. If you don’t care for the fact that I call an idiot by their correct title, well grow a backbone. By attacking me in this way you in fact are a hypocrite. Hadn’t thought of that had you?
March 10th, 2006 at 5:12 pmBob,
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t cast stones:
May I guess that MightyTranny is merely ’spoofing’ you, or did you just have a lapse in hypocrisy?
March 10th, 2006 at 5:17 pmDear RyANNe – Please explain to me (using as few of your “clever” vulgarities as possible) why the parents of poor children should not be allowed to attain a degree of educational excellence generally found in private or parochial schools. A final question on the topic of public vs. private schools: If public schools are so great, why do wealthy people (specifically wealthy Dems) generally opt to send their children to private/parochial schools??
March 10th, 2006 at 6:14 pmRyAnne – Your Milwaukee Journal Sentinel article was interesting. Most interesting was the large swaths of good news you left out (you “forgot” to mention the “reinvigorated schools along with the discouraging schools.”) But that wouldn’t serve your ideo”logical” purpose, would it?? Your discussion of half-truths does not promote your “honest reputation”.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:22 pmMighty Aphrodite,
It is a Ph.D., which may explain why I cannot afford to “place dinner reservations.” Unlike the phantom “liberal elite” you so often conjure up (which has about as much reality as “the liberal media”), I can barely make it from paycheck to paycheck.
However, I did not continue my education for so long & do not continue it now in order to make a lot of money. Or even much money. I know that will not make sense to someone like you — but I hold other things far more important than money. I realize that makes me an apostate in your universe, a person ripe for the crucifying, but there it is.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:35 pm“Your Milwaukee Journal Sentinel article was interesting. Most interesting was the large swaths of good news you left out (you “forgot†to mention the “reinvigorated schools along with the discouraging schools.â€) But that wouldn’t serve your ideoâ€logical†purpose, would it?? Your discussion of half-truths does not promote your “honest reputationâ€. Comment by mighty Hermaphrodite”
Your ‘good news’ reading is just like your reporting on Iraq. Public school systems show some of the same responses based on reform and spending efforts.
Your own ‘ideological’ reading that in fact omits all of the criticism of poor quality control, inconsistent results, and such a degree of failure in many cases that the Reichwingers on the board stop doing metrics. You know, that portion of education that you CONSTANTLY WHINE about being necessary for education success.
You’re such a hypocrite and a fool. No wonder you have a reputation for being one of the most ignorant, dishonest and misrepresentative trolls that post here. You can’t even critique a critique honestly.
What an idiot.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:37 pm#82, in re: your “When you get a chance, let the good doctor give you a sex re-assignment, and counseling for your psychotic behavior.”
Alas no. Even if I was a medical doctor, I would not want to muck about in /that/ dank, smelly arena — whatever manner of long-ignored pudendum (male or female) it may sport.
Unfortunately because of people like our Mighty Aphrodite I have a Swiftian horror of humanity. It’s a little odd, then, that I am /not/ a Repug, since that same horror seems to possess the entire party, but there it is. Weird, huh?
March 10th, 2006 at 6:39 pm“Your discussion of half-truths does not promote your “honest reputationâ€. Comment by mighty Hermaphrodite”
You mean like when you posted the lies about the ‘yacht tax’ that I so easily debunked that you looked like a fool. You’re projecting again there rube.
Here’s more on the milwaukee experiment.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-vouchers.htm
This is what’s key:
You know mighty moron, I post actual references for my ‘opinions’, whereas the best you can do is cite your own ignorance. An ‘honest’ person would back up their claims, unless they’re ‘you’, and too ignorant to do so.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:41 pmGlenn,
MightyMoron is bairly functionally literate, ignore him/her. The poor thing can’t even form a proper sentence most of the time.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:42 pmRyan,
“MightyMoron is bairly functionally literate, ignore him/her. The poor thing can’t even form a proper sentence most of the time.”
I know, but it’s fun to tease it. I’ve gotten cruel in my middle age.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:44 pmthese folks are so far gone, they remind me of the kkk, gotta laugh, they’re so fricken ignunt.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:45 pmMightyMoron, you’re a lost cause. Reality doesn’t even phase you, you’re such a retard.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:45 pm“I know, but it’s fun to tease it. I’ve gotten cruel in my middle age. Comment by Glenn Becker”
You know poking at lower life forms is kinda cruel, but I do understand :)
March 10th, 2006 at 6:46 pmhow do i get by the 4 letter code.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:48 pm“You know poking at lower life forms is kinda cruel, but I do understand :)”
Well to be honest I am a strange mix of cruel and naive. Because I would actually be happy to see M.A. step up to the plate of real debate and thought. It hasn’t happened yet. But you never know, and unlike a lot of people I like to be proven wrong.
There’s a e-SM aspect to it too, however, because one troll behavior is so transparent. M.A. is getting off on the /attention/ even if it negative. Someone is /noticing/ it, in those odd moments when it forgets to rub the lotion on its body.
So, really, honestly, I should stop. Good-bye, M.A., I will not respond again. Even though I know you will claim this as a “victory.” Bye bye.
And always remember, man-boobies are sexy.
March 10th, 2006 at 6:51 pmDear Dr. Becker – I appreciate your answers and your candor.
You assume much – I’m certain that in your extended studies, assumption was not a recommended course of intellectual advancement. For example:
March 10th, 2006 at 6:54 pm“I know that will not make sense to someone like you — but I hold other things far more important than money. I realize that makes me an apostate in your universe, a person ripe for the crucifying, but there it is.”
How’s this for a declarative sentence:
Dr. Becker will receive a D- for littering his posts with assumptions about fellow posters.
P.S. You can jump down off the cross now.
“Your own ‘ideological’ reading that in fact omits all of the criticism of poor quality control, inconsistent results, and such a degree of failure in many cases that the Reichwingers on the board stop doing metrics…”
March 10th, 2006 at 7:25 pm- Comment by RyANNe-
Dear RyANNe – I acknowledged the good and bad of the article you referenced – but you are such a reflexive omitter of the truth – clever!! So, answer the question – in RyANNe’s World, only rich and influential people should be able to send their children to private/parochial schools????
“I acknowledged the good and bad of the article you referenced – but you are such a reflexive omitter of the truth – clever!! mighty Hermaphrodite”
Yes, but unfortunately the ‘good’ was unrelated to my original post – as usual your skills for ’selective expression of irrelevant points’ is consistently apparent. Some private schools did well, just as some public schools did well. There was no overall improvement in scores however, which was your ‘point’ I’m guessing? You started this thread by claiming school choice would improve the lot of poor black children – this 14 year study proves that you’re spouting lies, mythology and hopeful thinking.
“So, answer the question – in RyANNe’s World, only rich and influential people should be able to send their children to private/parochial schools???? Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
That’s largely going to be the same whether or not someone is poor. The vouchers are miniscule compared to the cost of a decent private or parochial school. Someone who ‘claims’ to have attended private school would know this.
What you’re REALLY saying is that wealthy people shouldn’t have to pay for the public school system, because vouchers would let them recoup their investments. And what you’re also saying is that rich people should be able to siphon off school taxes for private and religious madrasas while the poor kids suffer in sub-par schools (public or private).
You’re such a pathetic liar, and such a bad propagandist.
I’ll say it again, you’re one of the the best argument against the quality of private education on the web. Keep up the good work mighty moron.
March 10th, 2006 at 8:03 pm“Dr. Becker will receive a D- for littering his posts with assumptions about fellow posters.
P.S. You can jump down off the cross now. Comment by mighty Hypocrite”
Then you should receive an “F” for assuming so much about Dr. Becker. Your hypcrisy and stupidity are only surpassed by your blind ignorant arrogance mighty moron.
March 10th, 2006 at 8:04 pmplunger,
You are full of Sh*t aren’t you… Making your wild claims about the Jewish cabal which is pushing America into a war. This is complete fantasy, and as an American Jew I find it offensive.
I have been, as has been my entire congregation, against the war in Iraq. In my area there are very, very few Jews who believe that the Iraq war was justified. And yet people continue to make unsubstantiated claims about Jews controlling the American government. What utter and useless BS you are spouting.
What the American government did was because it was what the Administration wanted to do, not because of any Jews in American controlling their hands {as your antisemetic propaganda purports}. Bush/Cheney have been chomping at the bit to invade Iraq from the early 90’s and this was to provide a stable environment for their oil intrests. Also, don’t you know that the Bush/Cheney team is on the Saudi Arabian team {who hate Israel, boycott them, and don’t allow Jews into the country}.
Stop your silly lying pirate… Open your eyes to reality, the reality that Bush/Cheney are operating in the interest of America, and not the terrorists with whom you are in bed with.
March 10th, 2006 at 8:37 pmThe sad truth is he probably dosen’t know who Jumblatt is either. Just did a Google search for a quote he could use most likely.
The sadder truth is Cheney wouldn’t know what Google was either. Some 24 year old flunkie ex-collegiate Republican, recently back from fucking up the CPA efforts in Iraq, found it and thought, “cool… a raghead leader we can quote. Wonder who he is? Aww, who cares?”
Dick is W + 20 IQ points. Still in the bottom 1%.
March 10th, 2006 at 8:49 pmI have been, as has been my entire congregation, against the war in Iraq. (…) Open your eyes to reality, the reality that Bush/Cheney are operating in the interest of America, and not the terrorists with whom you are in bed with.
Comment by Michael — March 10, 2006 @ 8:37 pm
I must confess I am confused… are you saying you are against the war in Iraq, even though you think it is in the interest of America? And are you suggesting that those who oppose the war are in bed with the terrorists? Wouldn’t that put you in the same proverbial bed?
March 10th, 2006 at 9:13 pmMichael,
First of all you don’t need to ‘control’ the government in order to have influence and power. The fact is many of the key NeoCon folks are Jewish, and their policies are remarkably anti-islamic and pro-israel. I understand that the majority of jewish people are more liberal than conservative, but you must also recognize that some are like Feith who are conservative and bonafide spies for Israel.
Not recognizing that there are radical rightwing pro-israel jews is like not recognizing there’s a Mehlman who’s gay. It doesn’t mean gay people are against gay rights, any more than Feith, the NeoCons or other radical jews mean that jews are conservative. Your inability to recognize the radical nature of some of your own people however is troubling. Every group has radicals, whether they be jews, christians or nada. If you can’t confront them, and what they stand for without identifying yourself as their protector – then to most you look like part of the problem. You can disagree how much power these american conservative jews have, but to disregard their significant and direct contribution to the current NeoCon CABAL is a little disengenuous.
The rightwing of israel is every bit as radical, dangerous and extreme as bin laden. And the rightwing of america’s christians, jews and islam are the same. They’re extremists, and unfortunately they have control of much of the country and even the world at the moment. That’s a hard cold, and painful reality.
March 10th, 2006 at 9:20 pmCheney could have shot a puppy rather than a millionare lawyer and it would still have been A-ok with his zombie minions. So he quotes a kook.
March 11th, 2006 at 12:20 amNo Child Left Behind, has left millions of primarily poor American children very far behind, and accomplished little impovement in American academic standards, – though cronies and bureaucratic oligarchs connected to – what Indira Singh poignantly terms the “Bush Crime Family Cabals” – reap obscene fortunes.
What will it take for America to awaken from our collective torpor or somnabulance and/or pathological apathy???
The Bush government is fascist!
America is in the iron, or perhaps nano grip of tyrants, despots, dictators, rapturist religious fanatics, warmongers, warprofiteers, disinformation warriors, bioweaponeers, sloganeers, supremist corporatist cabals, commanderies, and oligarchs, the craven sychophants and complicit parrots in the socalled MSM, and all the apologencia for, and wingnutsia trubelievers in the Bush government facist totalitarian dictatorship.
Words have no meaning?
The Consititution is “just a piece of paper.”
The people do NOT have the right to petition the government for redress of grievances!!!!
Any pedestrian or mere mortal questioning, challenging, opposing, or undermining the governments policies, dictates, dictims, executive orders, and heretofore unrecognized powers and authorities to REDEFINE and RE-ENGINEER the Constitution and the core principles that define America’s “unique experiment in democracy”.
The fascist warmongers and profiteers in the Bush government sanction torture, rendition, systemic cronyism, the brutal slaughter of innocents for political and economic gains, a concerted, relentless, and purposeful decieving of the American people, a grotesque betrayal of the public trust, an obscene perversion of American principles, standards, morals, and democracy, continually throwing sand in the face of both the political and judicial system, and endemic wanton profiteer!!!!!!
How much abuse do we have to take?
How much naked deception?
How many pathological lies?
How much blood?
How much of the peoples treasure?
Who will benefit?
What defines the ultimate objectives?
Who decides these issues?
Should not the people have a voice in the government?
Do the people not have “…the right to petition the government for redress of grievances”?
Is the government accountable?
Are the facsist cabals in the Bush government afforded heretofore unrecognized or imagined dictatorial and despotic tyrannical powers and authorities to pervert and subvert our owns laws and principles, operate above, beyond, outside, and in total disdain of the rule of law or the law of the land, and are the Bush government ministers sanctioned by god to “…break the law, repeatedly and insistantly”????
Wake up!
We are witness to the destruction of America.
The political system is malignant and impotent.
The socalled MSM are compliant complicit parrots of, or partisan pragandists for, or disinformations warrriors, sloganeers, perceptions managers, and slime miesters of the fascist wamongers, profiteers, and rapturist religious fanatics in the Bush government.
“Deliver us from evil”!!!!
March 11th, 2006 at 1:41 amThanks for letting us know how Whack Walid Jumblatt is.
He has been looking Whack, but the way Moronic Media quotes his creepy ass, ya’d never know.
They should have a little scroll or something saying some of the Whack things people say, that way, we will know who the heck their ass is.
What a moron.
March 11th, 2006 at 3:53 amLet’s keep a watch on this Whack Moron
Especially interesting his fawning episode at Brookings and intro by Martin Indyk.
Yikes.
He’s not even a smidgen as Pretty as Chalabi.
Not even a smidgen.
WTF is he at Brookings.
What gives?
March 11th, 2006 at 4:00 amFundamentalism in any form is a destructive force in the society of “man”. To serve “God” at the expense of and destruction of other humans, is the action of a human without compassion or empathy or the willingness to educate him or herself to the true spiritual nature of “man”. Pragmaticaly, we must seek to remove and unseat those political figures who define themselves as self righteous, God fearin’, gun totin’, sex hating “liberal bashing” good old boys. Positive activism, even here on this blog in place of petty argument as wittnessed in the last several posts.
Think on that awhile.
March 11th, 2006 at 5:49 amThe Bushies: If Hitler played tennis, they’d love him.
March 11th, 2006 at 10:09 amI’M NOT SURPRISED.
I’VE NEVER BEEN CONVINCED CHENEY WASN’T AN ANTI-SEMITE.
March 11th, 2006 at 4:56 pm#59“*****As for public school vs. private school – it’s not a “CLASS dig†– it’s a dig at progs who enjoy projecting their racism onto the “po’ blacks†who would benefit from school vouchers – (Note from NEA, Teddy K., J. Kerry -â€Can’t have THAT!!!) Many working class parents sacrifice to send their children to parochial and private schools. Remember the new Republican mantra: “Private schools aren’t just for trust fund kids anymore.†Comment by mighty aphrodite â€
The President’s budget will eliminate Medicaid reimbursements for schoolchildren with disabilities, denying them “access to medical services they need to fully participate in school and learn to their greatest abilities.†It cuts funding for medical equipment on buses, transportation to medical appointments, and the administrative costs of identifying children with special medical and learning needs.
If schools are no longer able to seek reimbursement for these services, costs will shift to districts and states already grappling with fiscal constraints. But those who will be most affected are the children and students with disabilities who have already been hurt by January’s drastic Medicaid cuts. TP on March 6
Mighty Hypocrite,
March 12th, 2006 at 3:42 amI noticed that even you couldn’t come up with what you think is a “clever” remark (defense of the Busheviks) for last week’s thread on the Bush cuts on aid to disabled schoolchildren. If you view school vouchers as the panacea for all education problems, where do disabled children fit in?
Dear Lora – Like many “lobotomy lefties” you see things starkly – black & white. What is wrong with giving people choices?? If a parent wants to continue with the public school system for their child – THAT’S THEIR BUSINESS. But your philosophy of “choice” doesn’t extend very wide or deep, does it???
March 12th, 2006 at 2:45 pmMighty Hypocrite,
March 12th, 2006 at 5:12 pmI didn’t write anything in opposition to giving parents choices. Since you don’t get subtle messages, let me be clear: I was asking where the government should get the money to fund school vouchers when it is even cutting aid for disabled students’ education. You should realize, Mighty dear, that, with the record (and still-growing) deficit, the Bush administration can’t simply pull money out of a hat like a magician with his rabbit.
And for someone who accuses those with Ph.D.s and/or Ivy league educations as “elitist snobs,” you come across rather schizoid in portraying private/parochial education as the great equalizer, as opposed to better public education. Besides, as has been pointed out by others, your usual errors in spelling, punctuation and grammar are hardly a good advertisement for the so-called virtues of private school education. And mind you, I have only mentioned your writing style here. In contrast to you who robotically dismissess the intelligence of anyone with whom you disagree politically, I recognize that some conservative pundits, though I don’t agree with their views, write beautifully. You’re definitely not one of them.
**Fundamentalism in any form is a destructive force in the society of “manâ€. To serve “God†at the expense of and destruction of other humans***
Comment by Richard Wagner — March 11, 2006 @ 5:49 am
**** THIS COMMENT MADE BY WAGNER IS AN EXAMPLE OF FUNDAMENTALISM BEING EQUATED WITH EVIL!!!!****
He is one of a movement to deface Christianity. Have you noticed that suicide bombers are called ‘fundamentalists’, and the fundamentalist Christians who support Intelligent Design are called ‘extremists’?
DEFCONamerica.org – a SLANDEROUS, lying “liberal” party who gives liberals a HORRIBLY bad name. http://www.family.org/cforum/news/a0039775.cfm for more details.
April 8th, 2006 at 11:13 pm