Buying Bush Spin, Media Recycles Tired Headline on Iraq
Buying Bush Spin, Media Recycles Tired Headline on Iraq
This morning, the Washington Post recycles a headline that we have seen frequently over the past three years: “Bush Goes on Offensive To Explain War Strategy; Speeches to Combat Public Pessimism.”
In reality, “pessimism” has mounted due to the growing casualties and cost of a war that has no clear exit strategy (the article did not specifically mention any of these factors). The speeches are a public relations stunt to blunt the growing dissatisfaction of a war that approaches its three-year anniversary.
The article, like previous ones with similar headlines, posits that public dissatisfaction with the war has intensified because Bush has not “explained” it well. The story notes, “The president hopes to give ‘better depth, understanding and context for how the strategy in Iraq is unfolding,’ a senior White House official said of the planned speeches.”
A quick review of old headlines, however, shows that Bush has been given ample opportunity to explain his Iraq strategy, but the public is no longer buying his bill of goods:
“Bush supporters cite Iraq speeches as start of rebound” [AP, 12/13/05]
“Bush vows victory, not retreat; Speech gives strategy for winning Iraq war, rejects exit timetable” [Toledo Blade, 12/1/05]
“Bush Goes on the Offensive Against Critics of War in Iraq” [Los Angeles Times, 11/12/05]
“In Speech, Bush To Get Specific On Iraq Strategy” [Boston Globe, 6/28/05]
“President spotlights Iraq war successes; Bush plans summer offensive to tout progress against insurgency” [Fresno Bee, 6/19/05]
“Bush to define Iraq strategy in major speeches” [Washington Times, 5/22/04]
“Cheney Goes on the Offensive Over Bush’s Policy on Iraq;
Vice President’s Unyielding Speech Is Designed to Regain Support” [Washington Post, 10/12/03]
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I don’t read the headlines as water carrying. The more Bush talks the lower his popularity becomes and the more silly the papers look.
March 11th, 2006 at 7:43 amin the corporate world, we used to play what we called “meeting bingo…” we’d each have bingo-type cards that listed all the words and phrases that we’d all heard a million times and each time one of them was used in the meeting, we’d secretly check the appropriate box… when someone had a complete line checked, he or she would make some sort of silent, unobtrusive gesture to indicate to the other players that he’d gotten “BINGO…!” i suggest we start doing the same thing with bush’s speeches…
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March 11th, 2006 at 7:58 am“Depth, understanding, and context,” eh? Where was all this depth, understanding, and context when BushCo was planning to invade Iraq in the first place?
It is almost beyond belief that the Bush administration still thinks that yet ANOTHER round of speeches will magically restore confidence in his handling of Iraq. But it does show just how bereft of ideas they are at the White House.
March 11th, 2006 at 8:25 amIraq is Bush’s “Carter Iranian Hostage Crisis”.
March 11th, 2006 at 8:28 amThere is no strategy. It’s a ‘respond to the latest crisis’game plan.
You have Bush telling people that we’re going to let the Iraqis sort their sectarian strife/death squads/possible civil war out themselves.
I always wondered though - what happened to Ms Bush’s Children’s Hospital for Baghdad? That was supposed to cost 800 mil…I think that was a good example early on of how delusional they are.
Oh, the shoplifter adviser made 161k/yr. Amusing he shopped at target.
March 11th, 2006 at 8:33 am“In reality, “pessimism†has mounted due to the growing casualties and cost of a war that has no clear exit strategy (the article did not specifically mention any of these factors)”
It isn’t even a war. We won the war a long time ago: no WMDs were found and Saddam has been deposed. And Codpiece-boy stood 100 miles west of where I am right now and declared “Mission accomplished.”
No, it’s an occupation, an open-ended, no-resolution-in-sight, expensive, lethal, unpopular, hypocritical occupation. Kinda like the Bush presidency!
March 11th, 2006 at 8:44 amAs usual, it’s not the administration’s fault that Iraq is a disaster, it’s our (the citizens’) fault because we just don’t understanding it well enough.
March 11th, 2006 at 8:50 amThe author appears to be trying to write objectively, probably as a subconscious reaction to all the claims of “liberal media.” Maybe the White House does believe it needs to provide more “Depth, background and context” (spin). Reality’s setting in, and the more spin the White House spits out, the more out of touch it looks.
March 11th, 2006 at 8:51 amHere is the fulfillment of the saying,” a drowning man will grasp at a straw”.
March 11th, 2006 at 8:57 amThe Bush Administration does not have to go on the Offensive, because they are already offensive to many of the American people given;
Abu Graibe
Katrina
Abrarmoff scandal
Cheney’s hunting tactics
WMD hunt in the white house for laughs while thousands die in Iraq
Lies to Iraq war
Budget deficiets while tax cuts enrich the wealthy
Medicare part D
Savarian
Allen
Norton
No child funded, but not left behind
Mine safety
FEMA
Bin Laden dead or alive, but I don’t worry about it
They do not have to go on the offensive they are already there.
March 11th, 2006 at 8:57 amEverything Bush does is a tired old retread of his past lies and baloney! He is incapable of telling the truth!
March 11th, 2006 at 9:01 amAnd the News Media/Press just spreads Bush’s falsehoods no matter what > they have to be paid to do it, because otherwise it would denote profound stupidity > lol.
March 11th, 2006 at 9:04 amWidespread PANiC
March 11th, 2006 at 9:08 amabout time he came up with a timetable for withdrawal and released Guantanamo inmates..and ended this crap on war on terror,
March 11th, 2006 at 9:15 amNow that Milosevic has died, The UN Tribunal can devote all of it’s time to Investigating the Bush regime for crimes against humanity..
March 11th, 2006 at 9:20 amI have a plan that might ensure peace in the region for the next 50 years. As a good will gesture for invading Iraq under false pretenses and then not leaving when we found them to be false we should turn those responsible over to the evil-doers - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, etc.. I am sure that we could have provisions that they be treated humanely and not tortured for the rest of their natural lives. Maybe a bit of water-boarding, some stress positions, sexual humiliation, and pain less than that of organ failure but definitely no torture. For the safety of America any patriot would jump at the chance to save American lives and ensure peace. I am surprised that they haven’t already thought of it themselves.
March 11th, 2006 at 9:24 am(Laura,these people are so stupid, I said MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, didn’t they hear me?)
March 11th, 2006 at 9:25 amLet’s just forget about the mainstream media, because clearly they’ve forgotten about us.
March 11th, 2006 at 9:28 amThis is not a war.
March 11th, 2006 at 9:36 amThis is a police action.
And innocent Americans are being watched illegally.
[…] Unfortunately, this is standard operating procedure. Asides Iraq […]
March 11th, 2006 at 9:37 amThis has been going on for a long time.
March 11th, 2006 at 9:38 amOnly problem….on one believes what this lame brain -ops- duck prez has to say. Continuing to stump for his failed policies tells us that bush still doesn’t get it. Of course, he has never gotten it, so we’re stuck with a prez who doesn’t need voter support and has never cared what others thought of him, so why would anyone expect that he’ll “wise up?”
March 11th, 2006 at 9:38 am#22 SW Bob You’re right, Bush has never cared about the people. If he doesn’t care about the American people, why the hell would he care about people of another country. He’s insulated fromt the realities of life. He doesn’t like details, he doesn’t like bad news, and he goes ballastic when someone stand in his way. Basically, we have a spoiled brat, as president. Alcholics stop maturing at the age they start drinking, so I’d say Dubya is still an adolescent, with the reasoning and emotional maturity of one.
March 11th, 2006 at 9:59 am‘keith olbermann’, I love the smell of fox security early in the morning.
March 11th, 2006 at 10:07 am“President Has No Fucking Clue What He Is Doing, Nor Does Staff….details at 11pm.”
March 11th, 2006 at 10:45 amAre they chumps or bitches?
March 11th, 2006 at 10:55 amWe will win the war over there by deploying speech writers over here.
Sounds like a brilliant strategy, let’s roll.
-George W. Bush a/k/a Zippy the Chimp
March 11th, 2006 at 11:00 am#2 That’s funny, ‘meeting bingo’; I now adopt it, and re-name it variously as ‘talking point bingo’ or ‘buzz word bingo’, and others I will think of later. Thank you, it’s a funny game.
#5 There is no strategy. You know that, and so do I: Doesn’t it both amuse and anger at the same time, to hear Administration and media alike, sling endlessly and extensively about the finer points of ’strategy’, completely ignoring that there is no National Security concern whatsoever to justify the occupation, and any other concern that might be imagined, is hardly any justification or even the business of the U.S., and certainly not of it’s Armed Forces.
#6 You’ve nailed it. This is not a ‘war’ (if it were, then who is it a ‘war’ against?). It is an invasion and an occupation of Iraq.
For what reason would the U.S. invade and occupy Iraq? Well, the very Resolution that authorizes this invasion…
H.J.Res. 114 (Passed Congress October 10, 2002)
To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.
…states that:
The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq
…and while many words can be said as to why the threat posed by Iraq turned out to be falsified by the Administration (and the Congress’s continued failure to investigate the cause of the false ‘pre-war intelligence’ is criminal in the eyes of the People, if not the world), let’s just say that false premises or not, the U.S. Armed Forces did confirm no WMD’s, and did topple Sadaam’s ‘regime’, and did capture Sadaam, and did kill or capture all those who may have been his legacy to that ‘regime’ (including his sons), and didn’t need to explore any ‘9-11 link’ (that being an absolute lie), and most of all, the U.S. Armed Forces stuck around (occupied) Iraq and provided as much internal security as they could to the destabilized Iraq, right on through Iraq’s National Elections of Dec. 15, 2005; and they remain there, although who knows why, they having successfully faced down a threat anyway, that didn’t even exist in the first place.
And so it is not a ‘war’ (if so, who against? and if not, then stop calling it one).
It is an invasion and an occupation of Iraq: which never had any real justification in the first place, but certainly has no justification now.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:04 amA little reported story yesterday is that CIA told Bush prior to war that regime change would not eliminate the WMD threat in Iraq as the new Iraqi government would obtain WMDs in 5-10 years.
Why doesn’t Bush add that to his little campaign and see how well the public like that his reason for war, even if he had believed there were WMDS, is even more bogus than we previously knew.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:04 am13- I would say “Widespread PNAC!
March 11th, 2006 at 11:18 amAND AS GOOD A TIME AND THREAD AS ANY TO NOTE:
Now there are 29!
There are now 29 co-sponsors to H.Res. 635; you know, the Resolution introduced into the People’s House December 18, 2005, which calls for:
Creating a select committee to investigate the Administration’s intent to go to war before congressional authorization,
manipulation of pre-war intelligence,
encouraging and countenancing torture,
retaliating against critics,
and to make recommendations regarding grounds for possible impeachment.
There are now 29 co-sponsors to that resolution, 2 more having added their support on March 9.
In a better U.S. Congress, those hearings would take place this summer; in the Democrat-controlled House that shall result from this fall’s elections, those hearings become the first order of business.
29 co-sponsors now to H.Res. 635…
Is your Representative one of them yet?
http://thomas.loc.gov/ cgi-bin/ bdquery/ z?d109:h.res.00635:
March 11th, 2006 at 11:19 amFolks, this is our bight light in the WH:
Let’s see. . . who in the room hasn’t been aware of this for the past three years? This prez continues to cement his fate as the worst president in modern -all?- times.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:23 amBajeebus is he gonna drag out that old hag and start wailing on it again?
Sheeaahtt-Even the CFR doesnt pay attention to that fool George, Remember that debacle?
Im gonna predict the worlds least listened too, perhaps outright Ignored, Presidential Speech err Propaganda.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:30 amWho is Daniel Pipes?
And why does he think civil war in Iraq is a good strategic move?
“The bombing on February 22 of the Askariya shrine in Samarra, Iraq, was a tragedy, but it was not an American or a coalition tragedy. Iraq’s plight is neither a coalition responsibility nor a particular danger to the West. Fixing Iraq is neither the coalition’s responsibility, nor its burden. When Sunni terrorists target Shi’ites and vice versa, non-Muslims are less likely to be hurt. Civil war in Iraq, in short, would be a humanitarian tragedy, but not a strategic one.”
March 11th, 2006 at 11:49 amhttp://www.counterpunch.org/walsh03092006.html is the link for above.
March 11th, 2006 at 11:52 amlink
#30
A little anagram fun
March 11th, 2006 at 12:04 pmThe important question now is what have the American people have learned about evaluating candidates before they vote. Anyone who studied George Bush’s record in the oil business and as governor of Texas could have predicted the laser like focus on helping his friends in the oil, the construction and the military hardware business that is the foundation of the Bush presidency. Will the American people inform themselves before the next election and VOTE? I want to be an optimist, so I hope they will.
March 11th, 2006 at 12:25 pmJana,
“Will the American people inform themselves before the next election and VOTE? I want to be an optimist, so I hope they will.”
Well, my parents voted for Nixon, Reagan and both Bushes. And they’re not mental midgets by any means.
I want to be an optimist, too. I leave parts of myself naive by design, because I never want my face to look like Dick Cheney’s. But …
… in this land “inform” is almost a synonym for words like “educate” and “research,” which are cardinal sins. It is bad to know. Knowing leads to doubt and to discontent and then (unless one is happy living with those feelings) it makes one feel one has to /do/ something. And doing takes effort …
… and so on, world without end, Amen.
March 11th, 2006 at 12:31 pmYEP. THAT’S THE TICKET.
ALL BUSH NEEDS TO WIN THE WAR IN IRAQ IS A LITTLE MORE SPIN.
March 11th, 2006 at 12:40 pmSeriously, though, it’s a pathetic comment on the corporate media.
It used to be that the media would discover the scams, then tell the truth to the public.
Now the public seems to (eventually) discover the scams, and tells the truth to media.
March 11th, 2006 at 12:43 pmoff topic, but want to spread this around -
listened to thom hartman yesterday on AirAmericaRadio - he did an extended segment on this topic: JFK’s acceptance speech in 1960, referred to as “what it means to be a liberal” speech … the most relevant part being:
” What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label, “Liberal”? If by “Liberal” they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer’s dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of “Liberal.” But, if by a “Liberal,” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people - their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties - someone who believes that we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a “Liberal,” then I’m proud to say that I’m a “Liberal.”
http://www.jfklink.com/ speeches/ jfk/ sept60/ jfk140960_ny04.html
do yourself a huge favor and read the whole thing
and you can listen to that part at
http://www.thomhartmann.com/JFKliberal.mp3
I AM SO VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT I AM A LIBERAL.
March 11th, 2006 at 12:44 pmOur resident education gurus discuss the importance of education, a concept with which I wholeheartedly agree. Unfortunately, the “curriculum” today is often full of “pap and mash”. At the turn of the 20th century, the 8th grade “promotion test” my great grandfather had to successfully pass, would shine a spotlight on modern educational deficiencies. Good, concerned teachers are often required to mount Hurculean efforts and lousy teachers are shuffled off to the poorest schools. But when you consider that the role of the teachers’ unions is to protect teachers, is anyone surprised? John Tierney of the New York Times had an excellent column a few days ago regarding the Milwaukee school voucher plan - much to the chagrin of a few here.
*****Note to katy - If JFK’s policies were adopted by today’s “progressives”, they would label him a turncoat. Tax cuts?? A strong foreign policy??? Investigating unions for their ties to organized crime??? There are a few Dems out there who are statesmen: Bill Richardson, Joe Leiberman, etc.
Back on thread - Can’t you imagine these headlines in 1942?
March 11th, 2006 at 1:17 pm“Roosevelt to Nation - We will Succeed” - war protestors not heartened
“Roosevelt to Troops - VICTORY is Exit Strategy” - appeasement crowd demands a date for withdrwal
mighty highly unlikely: is that the same grandfather that escaped from auschwitz?
March 11th, 2006 at 1:35 pm#41 Nice post Katy
March 11th, 2006 at 1:45 pm#43 - “mighty highly unlikely: is that the same grandfather that escaped from auschwitz?” - bowler
March 11th, 2006 at 1:55 pm*****No, this was my GREAT grandfather on my father’s side. My grandfather who left Austria was never in Auschwitz - thank God!! His extended family was not as fortunate. I know this must be confusing, but some of us actually know our fathers.
thank you, WiscoDuk…be sure to pass it on, please
March 11th, 2006 at 2:47 pm“*****Note to katy - If JFK’s policies were adopted by today’s “progressivesâ€, they would label him a turncoat. Tax cuts?? MightyMoron”
Ok, more false claims by the DUMBEST troll on the planet. You mean like the tax cuts that were largely aimed at the middle class? Bahaha, you’re such an idiot and a fool.
“A strong foreign policy??? MightyMoron”
You mean one where we sell off ports to terror related countries, drive countries into making nuclear weapons, and refuse to invervene when genocide is happening?
Bahaha, the only thing strong about your foreign policy is how strongly you offend the entire world with it! Fool.
“Investigating unions for their ties to organized crime??? MightyMoron”
You mean Halliburton and Abramoff? That’s some of the most organized crime of the century, and you guys have done your best to IMPEDE every investigation. LIAR AND HYPOCRITE!
“There are a few Dems out there who are statesmen: Bill Richardson, Joe Leiberman, etc. MightyMoron”
Oh please, you only like them because they kiss GWs a$$ almost as much as you and the rest of the dumba$$e$ who blindly follow him do. You’ve got to be the most retarded liar on the planet there MightyMoron. Before you post, would you for once post ACCURATELY instead of so blatantly lie? Watching you is just EMBARRASSING!!!
March 11th, 2006 at 3:09 pm“I know this must be confusing, but some of us actually know our fathers. Comment by mighty Moron”
And some of you and your mommas know them well enough to need an abortion. It certainly explains the brain damage and limited intelligence you exhibit.
March 11th, 2006 at 3:32 pmHey, how many of my fellow progressives would take JFKs lead and set the tax rate of the wealthiest 1% to 70% - which is what his miraculous tax cut did.
MightyMoron, you’re an embarrassment not just to the country, but to the species! Funny how everything you post leads to a dead end, a flat out lie, or a reversal of what’s actually true. You MUST be a NeoCon to lie so much, either that or your the dumbest sock on George’s boot.
March 11th, 2006 at 3:34 pmNewspapers like the Washington Post and broadcast media are, for the most part, not mandatory reading/viewing anymore. The media isn’t liberal. It’s lazy and incompetent.
March 11th, 2006 at 3:57 pmRyANNe - As usual,you have a difficult time following along. Since I was discussing JFK, the foriegn policy I was discussing was Russia, Cuba - and the unions he had brother Bobby investigate were the Teamsters,AFL-CIO, United Mine Workers, etc. Bobby was most noted for his confrontation with Jimmy Hoffa.
But as coarse and vulgar as you are, WHO is surprised that you leave out information which is inconvenient. You “forgot” to mention that JFK CUT THE TAX RATE from 90% to 70%. (He started those rates in the “right” direction - but PLEASE explain how the JFK IRS collected MORE $$$$$$$$$$$ from those rich people than when they were in the 90% tax bracket.) But as an independently wealthy playboy, you are certainly free to donate any amount you wish to the IRS, over and above the legitimate amount owed after your tax attorney (or battalion of CPA’s) wrings out every deduction they can.
Oh….RyANNe…your response is not to respond?…. but to let loose with a string of obscene innuendo?? - why am I not surprised….??????
March 11th, 2006 at 4:09 pm#50, Opie, “The media isn’t liberal. It’s lazy and incompetent.”
I don’t think it’s so much laziness and incompetence as 1) fear, 2) knowing which side the bread is buttered on and 3) knowing further that the butter and the bread is owned by billionaires who buy souls with the power of the only god the U.S.A. truly worships, Mammon.
March 11th, 2006 at 4:23 pmI am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. I am a Catholic person who did not vote for GWB either in 2000 or in 2004. Rather I voted in my conscience, for the Right man to lead us Americans. In 2000, I voted for Al Gore, and in 2004, I voted for John Kerry. Not that John Kerry was a Catholic like myself, but rather I thought now there is a man willing to stand up for my country, and remember that there are millions in America who don’t have all the things that I consider myself blessed to have. I wanted a president to have his mind on this country, for its safety, like we were shown through Bill Clinton through the end of the 20th century. As little amount of Bill’s Vacations, it made Big News on our news broadcasts, and it even almost got him impeached.
George Bush has been stripping US of all of our wealth, making the poor go out into the streets, getting drugs, and food, taking as much as they can from the American people as they can because they are hungry, they are thirsty, they are hungry for Justice, and they are concerned for their families. Maybe he should spend less time on the road, going all over the world landing incognito in all of the foreign lands and spending more time in the white house with the congress and the senate, seeing if he can get us out of a horrible conflict. I think that if he could give up a litle bit of his free time and use it for prayer he will see that the American people want to forgive him but he hasn’t asked and I don’t think that he ever will.
March 11th, 2006 at 4:58 pmDear Nesta - Which Catholic John Kerry did you vote for - the divorced guy who cheated on his first wife, the observant Catholic who is “pro-choice” or the good Catholic who was “for the war before he was against it”? Maybe you voted for the Catholic John Kerry who couldn’t keep his story straight about his “medals and ribbons”. I know it’s difficult for a candidate when he’s not sure whether he should be ashamed of throwing the medals AND keeping the ribbons… such a dilemna. My advice: go to confession, kibbutz with your priest, say an Act of Contrition and five Hail Mary’s - and volunteer at your local soup kitchen. Absolution?? Absolutely!!!!!
March 11th, 2006 at 5:14 pm#53, Nesta -
I wish I had shared your enthusiasm for Kerry. I didn’t loathe him like I did/do GWB, but he defied most of my honest enthusiasm.
Kerry, a reasonably intelligent man, could have and should have CRUSHED Bush, a reasonably intelligent macaque, in the debates, and he did not. And the lamentable hunting episode betrayed his all-too-common “please goddamned well everybody” approach, and was a real howler.
Is it even possible for this country to elect a great person as president? I mean, apart from party. Would this country elect such a person?
March 11th, 2006 at 5:55 pmNesta,
March 11th, 2006 at 5:55 pmDo the Soup Kitchen thing. ma must be starving by now and could use a good meal.
“But as coarse and vulgar as you are, WHO is surprised that you leave out information which is inconvenient. MightyHypocrite”
Ironic coming from a Man/Woman who makes Ann Coulter sound like your aunt Sophie. You’re such a Coarse, idiot.
“You “forgot†to mention that JFK CUT THE TAX RATE from 90% to 70%. ”
Well moron, I said cut to 70%, even an idiot would recognize that it had been HIGHER - DUHH.. Your momma clearly wasted money on your ‘private’ education - because you miss the point that the tax cuts to the rich put the rate at 70%.
Once again, you claimed that modern progressives would throw out JFK for reducing tax rates to 70% - which I pointed out is the most retarded thing you’ve said in a LONG list of retarded things. You are clearly an idiot, a fool and inept.
“(He started those rates in the “right†direction - but PLEASE explain how the JFK IRS collected MORE $$$$$$$$$$$ from those rich people than when they were in the 90% tax bracket.) Mighty Fool”
Prove it. You’re probably like most retarded republicans who confuse an increase in overall tax revenues, with collecting more money from the wealthy. Prove that the wealthy 1% paid more, and also prove the projected revenues without this tax cut. If you can’t give scholarly reference (I know you can’t), then you prove once again that you’re a lying propagandist, and the ignorant fool you’ve repeatedly proven yourself to be.
Give it your best shot mighty moron - the clock is ticking! Careful though, you might have to go work for it, this information won’t be on Heritage or NCPA or any other propagandist site you normally suck your lies from. Come one butthead, show us how stupid you really are - go for it!
March 11th, 2006 at 6:00 pm“Oh….RyANNe…your response is not to respond?…. but to let loose with a string of obscene innuendo?? - why am I not surprised….??????? Comment by mighty Hermaphrodite”
Because you’re a retarded moron who doesn’t realize other people have lives beyond you and your stupidity? Grow up man child. Get a life.
And you call someone RyANNE and acuse others of obscene inuendo? Aren’t you implying that I’m a woman, gay or effeminite? Isn’t that ‘obscene’ in your reichwing hate speech? You’re a retard, a hypocrite, and a fool - you make a PERFECT republican you moron.
March 11th, 2006 at 6:02 pm“Which Catholic John Kerry did you vote for - the divorced guy who cheated on his first wife Mighty Liar”
Do you have proof, or are you just spreading more of the unsubstantiated swiftboat smears? And being Catholic doesn’t mean you have to 100% agree with the church, unless you’re a retarded zombie like yourself.
“, the observant Catholic who is “pro-choice†or the good Catholic who was “for the war before he was against itâ€? Mighty Hypocrite”
How about the observant catholic like yourself that believes in abortion and/or the death penalty? What’s your point mighty whacko? Are you saying that a Catholic or Christian must be 100% in agreement with the Pope, otherwise they’re a bad catholic? Were you always this big of an idiot, or did you have to go to republican idiot training school to look like such a fool?
” Maybe you voted for the Catholic John Kerry who couldn’t keep his story straight about his “medals and ribbonsâ€. Mighty Swiftboat”
Really? From what I saw it was the swiftboaters who couldn’t keep their story straight? What kind of ‘good christian’ ‘bears false witness’ like you do? You’re an evil retarded hypocrite, and one of the most ‘unchristian’ people I’ve ever seen. You should go run off with your brother MizzWrong and make retarded redneck children deserving of you as parents.
What a marooon…
March 11th, 2006 at 6:17 pmOh, and Mighty Maroon,
In the 1950s Solow came up with the concept/theory of the Neo Classical growth model. One of the most basic principles of that theory - and something that underlies basically all REAL modern economic theory is the concept of diminishing returns on capital. Developed economies will eventually reach a point at which no new increase in capital will create economic growth. And any ‘tax cuts’ have no impact on economic growht. This stage is called a ’steady state’, and is where much of our economy currently exists.
One of the other aspect of this principle is that technology and radical changes in technology can offset this principle. If we look at the investment in the internet, computers, etc. in the last 30 years - they are largely the expression of this qualifier to the theory.
If you want the economy to grow, give up on the tax cuts, and focus on R&D and new technology. I’d recommend technology that reduce global warming, and free us from oil imports. You’ll kill a bunch of birds with one stone.
But then again, I’m approaching the problem as a trained economist, and not a whacko Reichwing propagandist such as yourself.
If only you knew economics, as well as I apparently know law compared to you. It might actually be fun to debate with you. But alas, we both know you’re over your head on all topics requiring skills and expertise - and that’s why you can’t resist attacking the private lives of Kennedy, Clinton and Kerry. You know big minds debate ideas, small mind debate the sex lives of others. That leaves you among the rodents doesn’t it butthead?
March 11th, 2006 at 6:40 pm#59 - My dear toilet mouth, RyANNe - No one in this century is forced to belong to the Catholic Church. If you are a pro-abortion Christian, join the Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Methodists or whatever. Once again, you (intentionally or stupidly) misrepresent my views - no surprise there!!! I am anti-abortion AND anti-death penalty. I have stated my reasons before and see no need to be redundant - you would not be able to remember those reasons - so I won’t waste my time.
But coming from a household in which two different religions were practiced was excellent training for many of the “arguments” posted here. BTW, don’t forget to overpay your investment to the IRS, you independently wealthy playboy, you. I’ll discuss the rest of your drivel when you admit you are a moron who confused my JFK assertions with GWB.
March 11th, 2006 at 7:03 pmP.S. RyANNe - You received your education as a “trained economist” where??? Stockholm U.?????
March 11th, 2006 at 7:06 pm#52 Glenn, your point is well taken. I’ve read interviews with ex-media types who say that reporters have to make a choice between holding the president accountable or paying their mortgage. Of course, they want their paycheck. However, it’s a big disappointment when independent media personalities such as, say, Imus, who has no real allegiance to his bosses and who casually tells many people to go to hell, still can’t pull the trigger and hammer the many conservative chumps who he interviews on his show. I’m close the point where I feel no need to spend $150 a year to get the local paper when the only thing of interest might be the TV listings and last night’s hockey scores.
March 11th, 2006 at 7:12 pmPssst RyANNe, “trained economist”, The info on the revenue increses I posted can be seen for YOURSELF at:
http://www.townhall.com/ opinion/ columns/ jackkemp/ 2005/ 06/ 1315726.html
You’re welcome!
March 11th, 2006 at 7:17 pmOpie I gave up on the “controlled” media years ago, the internet has much more and I can get all sides of a story by looking in on separate news agencies in different locations as well as some primary sources. I no longer limit my information to the editing of both the “reporter” and copy editor while they dance on their puppet strings of the paycheck of the corporate owners, and advertisers.
March 11th, 2006 at 7:19 pm“Pssst RyANNe, “trained economistâ€, The info on the revenue increses I posted can be seen for YOURSELF at:
http://www.townhall.com/ opinion/ columns/ jackkemp/ 2005/ 06/ 1315726.html You’re welcome! mighty Hermaphrodite”
Pssst Trained Monkey - the link is broken. You obviously didn’t get it from that link, otherwise you would have known that.
Once again we see yet another ‘theory’ of the whacko Reichwing brigade that doesn’t pan out.
Same old MightyMoron. Broken links, bad information, unsubstantiated claims. You’re as dumb as a post aren’t you little one?
March 11th, 2006 at 7:42 pmClif, I’m finding that I enjoy listening to satellite radio in my car as my ongoing source of info. I take most of it with a grain of salt, but I hear enough point/counterpoint on issues to feel as though I know what’s really going on. What’s bothersome is knowing that the “controlled” media feeds the great uninformed masses of this country a steady diet of swill, day after day. And the fact is, whether people want to hear it or not, is that the great masses don’t have the IQ, skill set, or whatever you want to call it, to know that they’re being poisoned.
March 11th, 2006 at 7:45 pmLet me help you out ‘Mighty Inept’.
Most of the tax relief brought on by JFK was specifically and directly aimed at the poor and middle class.
And Pssst., just so you know, the poor and middle class SPEND more money, and tend to stimulate the economy more than the wealthy do.
You cannot, and neither can townhall attribute this tax cut on the wealthy as the cause of the economic situation - as the bulk of the tax breaks were on the middle class, and not the wealthy.
But keep posting broken links, and believing crap from the ‘townhall’ propaganda site. Most of the trained monkeys that quote from them are just as you, too retarded to fact check. You’ve definitely pegged exactly who and what you are there mighty moron.
March 11th, 2006 at 7:48 pmDear “trained economist” (AKA: RyANNe) I apologize if my moniker for you offends you; but it seemed so appropriate when you and the defunct “Susan” started w/ mighty hermaphrodite, nazi, and traitor…Now, RyANNe has just become a low-fat habit….too bad!!
March 11th, 2006 at 8:37 pmI’m not even surprised about stuff like this anymore. When will people realize that the mainstream media is not “liberal”? Another recent example is how the media completely ignored the Claude Allen shoplifting story. You know that they would have pounced on it immediately if that had been a close Clinton aide. See: Sandy Berger.
http://www.locoliberal.blogspot.com
Progressive commentary on issues that really matter
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March 11th, 2006 at 8:42 pmI think you’re absolutely right LC Liberal!!! That Sandy Berger carting out classified documents in his pants was not nearly as bad as Claude Allen ripping off Target. That damn conservative media!!!
March 11th, 2006 at 8:54 pmMighty moron; what the HELL would you know about medals and ribbons? Did you earn any yourself? I got mine via the DRAFT! Apparantly like other neocon CHICKENHAWKS you blindly follow, you could proclaim the moon really IS made of cheese, then be outraged that many folks don’t believe you, and denounce us as treasonous heretics. Until you’ve been there: SHUT YOUR F*CKING HOLE!!!!
March 11th, 2006 at 9:06 pmfor a listing of administration chickenhawks, see chickenhawks/new hampshire gazette. You can even nominate your own administation/republican chickenhawk.
March 11th, 2006 at 9:35 pmok mighty moron, time to sing a little song. its ‘I Feel-Like-I’m-Fixin’-to-Die Rag’ by Country Joe & the Fish. Ready? Well, c’mon all you big strong men, Uncle Sam needs your help again, got himself in a terrible jam, way down yonder in Iraq, so put down your books, pick up a gun, we’re going to have a whole lotta fun, and it’s 1,2, 3,4, what are we fighting for? don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn, the next stop is Iraq. There’s no time to wonder why, whoopee, we’re all going to die.
March 11th, 2006 at 9:47 pmThe Media is also ignoring the facts that America is seeking help from Iran to calming the violence in Iraq.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ article/ 0,,2089-2081493,00.html
March 12th, 2006 at 5:55 amThis is what our Fascist-in-Chief thinks is the key, because he is firmly convinced he is—like his friend the Rev. Sun Yung Moon—a worshipped cult figure. If more people see and hear him, regardless of the irrational nature of his remarks, he believes the very FORCE of his CHARISMA will be all that is needed to “catapult the propaganda”.
March 12th, 2006 at 6:52 amOf course, Dear Leader is thoroughly ensconced in a fantasy world.
To all Republicans:
March 12th, 2006 at 7:14 amWhich “Christian” Bush did you vote for? At least Kerry never used faith as a tool to fool the gullible, like Chaucer’s Pardoner. I guess GW is the brand of Christian who bombs and kills the innocent (he misunderstood the “suffer the little children unto Me” bit); allows N.O. citizens to starve, become homeless, and drown (GW was A.W.O.L. for the catechism lesson on “the Sermon on the Mount”); lies to wage an illegal war (Dubya wrote a “Unitary Presidential prerogative” to that Commandment about not killing, and also the pesky one about bearing false witness); and works assiduously to enrich himself, his friends, and other extremely wealthy men (as we speak, Halliburton and the Carlyle Group are constructing a needle the size of whose eye will accommodate them)—was it THAT Christian Bush?
Putting Religion into politcs
God: I’ve lost faith in Blair
A high-level leak has revealed that God is “furious” at Tony Blair’s attempts to implicate him in the bombing of Iraq. Sources close to the archangel Gabriel report him as describing the Almighty as “hopping mad … with sanctimonious yet unscrupulous politicians claiming He would condone their bestial activities when He has no way of going public Himself, owing to the MMW agreement” (a reference to the long-established Moving in Mysterious Ways concordat).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ comment/ story/ 0,,1725799,00.html
March 12th, 2006 at 10:13 am“Dear “trained economist†(AKA: RyANNe) I apologize if my moniker for you offends you; but it seemed so appropriate when you and the defunct “Susan†started w/ mighty hermaphrodite, nazi, and traitor…Now, RyANNe has just become a low-fat habit….too bad!! mighty Hermaphrodite”
You project too much relevant old fat butt in search of low fat. See, your attack on me doesn’t offend me, because I’m not offended by women, those who are feminine, or those who are masculine. Your ready use of it however clearly shows you have a deep seated hatred of the feminine, and most likely a deep seated homophobia - likely resulting from your own sexual ambiguity, or perhaps that of your husband, or both.
See, in order to be ‘offended’ by what you say, I’d have to care what you say. You’ve proven yourself to be an idiot, and a fool - so call me whatever you wish, it won’t change the fact that you’re a BIG FAT LOSER who clearly could use lots of ‘low fat habits’.
March 12th, 2006 at 9:09 pmChangeAmerica.net:
Hey Bill, got news for you. 200,000,000 Americans have now figured out that the real enemy is the Republican Party. They have hurt, and bankrupted our country far worse than any terrorist could have ever dreamed. Rove, and his Republican Traitor friends divided us just like they wanted to!
Republican Party = America’s Enemy (And The Rest Of The World Too)
You should just call yourselves the Christo-Fascist Nazi Republican Party! It would be a lot more descriptive.
When you are voted out of the House, and Senate, and all the investigations can finally move forward, then we will see how badly your party has sold America down the river!!!!
You people are scumbag traitors. Most of you will soon be behind bars! Good Riddance!!!!
Freaks!
http://www.ChangeAmerica.net
Stop Government Corruption Now!
March 13th, 2006 at 1:19 amChangeAmerica.net: Bush is no more a Christian than Hitler was a NAZI. Bush knew the “flock” could be fooled into voting for him. Thus he took on the christian label. The only problem is the fact that Christians don’t have to lie, and Bush rarely says anything that is true….
Pretty easy to figure out that one….
http://www.ChangeAmerica.net
Stop Government Corruption Now!
March 13th, 2006 at 1:22 amChangeAmerica.net:
Hey Bush. Why don’t you get all your rich friends to pay for this war? I think the total is somewhere around 2 TRILLION dollars when all the interest is paid on the money you borrowed to invade a non-threatening country for you election issue.
I am ready for your explanation on Iraq. This is what I want to hear.
“Guilty, your honor” George Bush.
That is all the explaining you have to do traitor! And to think after 9-11 the world was with us….
http://www.ChangeAmerica.net
Stop Government Corruption Now!
March 13th, 2006 at 1:25 amChangeAmerica.net:
Don’t compare Bush to Carter. Republican operative were paying the mullahs cash $$$$ to keep our hostages till after the election, so Reagan could win. Remember?
Republican = Traitor
Nothing has changed, except the lethality of Republican political attacks on people that really “do” care about America.
http://www.ChangeAmerica.net
March 13th, 2006 at 1:27 amBush needs a few more “catapults” for all that “propaganda” that he is repeating to the American people. It’s getting to be some REAL “hard work”. Nothing changes, except the number of people still willing to listen, and believe, this tired-ass rehashing of the same old garbage, that was never true to begin with.
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