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VIDEO: Frist Desperate For Vote To Censure President»

Frist went on the Senate floor a few moments ago and complained that the Senate wasn’t going to vote soon enough to censure the President. Watch it:

Frist added that the President’s warrantless domestic surveillance program was not just lawful but “a very good lawful constitutional program.” Many of his conservative colleagues disagree.

Transcript:

FRIST: Just to clarify, he has said his intentions representing the other side of the aisle is to offer a resolution to censure the President of the United States of America for a program which I have said and I will restate is a lawful program, is a program that is constitutional, and is a program that is vital to the safety and security of the American people.

And my response to that with the unanimous consent request was, if that is the case and if that is the position of the Democratic Party, that we’re ready to vote at 5:30 or after our 5:30 vote today. That unanimous consent request was objected to by the other side of the aisle, and then the second unanimous consent request that I propounded was that we would vote, after a series of stacked votes tomorrow, on the resolution to censure. There was an objection from the other side of the aisle.

When we’re talking about censure of the President of the United States at a time of war, when this President is out defending the American people with a very good lawful constitutional program, it is serious business. If it is an issue that the other side of the aisle wants to debate or to debate through the night, I guess we’re willing to do that as well. But the censure of the President is important, and if they want to make an issue out of it, we’re willing to do just that.

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  1. Think Progress O'Reilly Says:

    Bill, make sure you check the videotape first.


  2. Neal Says:

    Feingold for President in ‘08!!! Forget Hillary!!! Everyone call your senators and tell them to SUPPORT this censure proposal!!!


  3. Jesus Christ God of WAR Says:

    #3 - Indeed. Forget Hillary. Russ Feingold for President in ‘08!

    Frist should be pointed to the cancer that has infected this nation with madness. Bill should be forced to remove that cancer. We all know the cancer’s name. It’s George W. Bush. But Frist isn’t that good of a doctor. Bill thinks the cancer is good for us, or some other equally twisted christian thought.


  4. Zookeeper Says:

    Frist is a whiny assed titty baby cat killer. And he wants to be president so badly, he will do or say absolutely anything. Dream on…


  5. Kenny H. Says:

    Yep. Frist is now a constitutional scholar. He’s amazing . . . [mis]diagnosing brain disorders from a videotape, you name it.


  6. Rick Says:

    Frist is a quack and a fraud.


  7. Liberals Are Anti-Democracy Says:

    #1 - Harry Reid, dipshit. Apparently, he’s not politically tone deaf as the radical left. But don’t worry, we’ll get a vote and watch all the spineless Dems squirm because of total morons like yourself.


  8. wisedup Says:

    have a little gut ache frisk?….sweating bullets?….I hope the crooks pick you to run, we’ll knock you off faster than you can lie.


  9. RunningDogLackey Says:

    By all means, let’s drag it through the news tonight and keep the talk alive as long as we can through tomorrow.

    Bush. Censure. Impeachment. Bush Censure. Impeachment.

    America can’t hear this enough right now.

    Oh, and it’s always a bonus to watch Frist try to look important. He’s not very good at it.


  10. ElectricBassPlayer Says:

    What a sorry state Congress is in these days. Under Republican administration, the House and Senate have completely lost their institutional integrity.

    Among other things, Congress is supposed to act as a deliberative body, to debate the issues. It’s pretty clear that they’re turning into a kind of Politburo or Reichstag, acting as a rubber-stamp and suppressing dissent. Frist wants his vote quick so there is no intellectual discussion on the matter first, and so he can claim a victory.

    Which is more important to him than the integrity of the Senate or Congress in general.


  11. Clif Says:

    #1 - Harry Reid, dipshit. Apparently, he’s not politically tone deaf as the radical left. But don’t worry, we’ll get a vote and watch all the spineless Dems squirm because of total morons like yourself.

    Comment by Liberals Are Anti-Democracy — March 13, 2006 @ 6:00 pm

    Sparky….Frist is trying to rush the vote to limit the debate, and the debate to fully explore all the legal ramifications of the warentless spying program is necessary for the senators to be fully informed, not the joke the repugs made out of Murtha’s call to get our troops out of Iraq before the situastion gotr out of hand like as in civil war, and he had the time span about right also,..


  12. Left of Center Says:

    left of center
    Frist is a dildo that wants to be a real boy.


  13. Congress is Allowing the President to Spy on YOU Says:

    Specter was horrible. Contradiction and insult.
    Looks like Sessions did his own makeup.


  14. Cyra Brown Says:

    So… Frist was AGAINST a censure vote, and then he was FOR a censure vote. Hello…. FLIP-FLOPPER FRIST!!!! (titter)


  15. NutWrench Says:

    Frist added that the President’s warrantless domestic surveillance program was not just lawful but “a very good lawful constitutional program.”

    For God’s sake Frist, put down the thesaurus!

    /Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball


  16. Zookeeper Says:

    I had to turn it off when Sessions was speaking — that voice makes me want to jump into traffic.


  17. Rene Says:

    if i wanted repug spin and lies i’d turn on fox news.. thank you.

    i believe there are some right wing blogs where people might actually buy that crap, may be a better place for some commenters.


  18. ChuckLA Says:

    George Clooney said it right. FU to all Dems who supported he war ….and are against Feingold today!

    Lieberman said he was not inclined to just scold the President?!!

    What the hell crap is that?! Bush broke the damn law - scold, censure, impeach and charge his ass!!!

    I am so totally angry and disappointed in the Democratic Party today. Feingold may be the only guy on the Senate floor with principles and guts.


  19. Cyra Brown Says:

    Physician, get over thyself!!


  20. Ho Chi Minh Says:

    Frist is a CHICKENHAWK party hack. FEINGOLD FOR PREZ!!!


  21. Badmoodman Says:

    All these bozos are is all gesture and no conviction.


  22. Cyra Brown Says:

    Sen. Reid said “we shouldn”t rush to judgment”. My ensuing vocal frenzy has frightened my kitty. Mommy is sorry Boo-Boo!!! But RUSH TO JUDGMENT?!? STUPID F*CK!!! Dems, do your job, or lose your job, K?


  23. mighty aphrodite Says:

    Judd, You note, “Many of his conservative colleagues disagree..” with the NSA surveillance program. You listed four Senators. Don’t leave out conservatives in the House if need be. Please expand your list so “many” really means MANY.


  24. Silly Little American Boy Says:

    Watch out for that bastard’s jedi mind trick hand jeastures!
    They’re about the only thing that make sense coming from him.


  25. hotfroggy+ Says:

    perrrrrrrrrfect! let frist show all his cards!!! president? i don’t think so. feingold is light years better than hillary anyday. here is a huge opportunity for the dems to show some backbone. any bets they slink away? odds are 100:1 they scatter like cats, oh yea frist is in the house. run babies run!


  26. mighty aphrodite Says:

    Cyra - I must disagree. I think Harry Reid is the same “bold” type of leader that the fearless Tom Daschle was. But I think the ticket for ‘08 will be Feingold. He has shown himself to be sensitive (like that word!!) to the base of the party who HATE GWB, while Hillary has been pandering to mainstream…I mean moderates. Perhaps the GREATEST political ticket EVER would be RUSS/HILLARY ‘08!!!!! He would snare the rabid base and she could try to appeal to…whoever she appeals to….


  27. Congress is Allowing the President to Spy on YOU Says:

    Mighty,
    They all disagree with Bush. You know that. But as Feinglod accurately stated, they are MEEK.
    Surely someone as headstrong as you can spot meekness and servitude?


  28. RunningDogLackey Says:

    Wow. The CBS and NBC nightly news broadcasts pretty much just took a giant dump on Bush. Bad polls and bad prognosis for Iraq.

    Excerpts from today’s speech (the new PR offensive) were essentiall a remastered edition of George’s greatest hits. Audience applause was polite whenever he said “Victory.” A Pete Frampton nostalgia concert would get more than that.

    I say it’s time to pile on. The man has lost his magic.


  29. Badmoodman Says:

    #27: “But I think the ticket for ‘08 will be Feingold.” - - A Senator, a Jew, twice divorced and unmarried. How many more strikes does Feingold get?


  30. Congress is Allowing the President to Spy on YOU Says:

    mighty, how does someone as smart and independent as you defend this garbage day in and day out? Intellectually nothing the Bush people do passes the test. Today’s crutch phrase was “Bush’s Article 2 power”, but not when Specter (and Feingol and Durbin)flat out contradicted himself by saying the courts have already ruled against the executive time and again…

    Specter and Frist and Sessions were bumbling idiots. More to come!


  31. Republicans Hate Christianity Says:

    “He has shown himself to be sensitive (like that word!!) to the base of the party who HATE GWB, while Hillary has been pandering to mainstream…I mean moderates. mighty aphrodite”

    Don’t you REPUBLICANS claim to be christians? What’s up with your fear of ’sensitive’ and ‘meek’ people? Do you even read the bible, or do you just use it to beat your children with?

    Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

    What inheritence are you leaving your children with?


  32. Congress is Allowing the President to Spy on YOU Says:

    We’ve seen Specter’s true colors if there were any doubt. He hurled an insult at Feingold through Durbin about Feingold’s debate skills….
    This after interupting Feingold and calling his speech a “solioquy”…

    Feingold walked out on the flaky, mind-damaged Specter. F*CK Specter.


  33. Congress is Allowing the President to Spy on YOU Says:

    Feingold does not need to be president without shaping the campaign. But I’ll say this, if it’s Hillary, I’m staying home.

    I voted for a republican last week. I’ll do it again. I’m not afraid to use this thing!


  34. Cyra Brown Says:

    #27- Ms. Aphrodite, your sarcasm is duly noted. However, I will continue to “voice” my displeasure with the members of my party, when I feel that they are too “slow on the uptake” to suit me. As for Sen. Clinton, she fails to impress me. The point here is, GWB is a spoiled brat, and he NEEDS a SPANKING, badly. Censure is the political equivalent of that. Spare the rod, spoil the child. It’s just some “tough love”, and he needs it.


  35. cats are flyfishn Says:

    Frist is a cat killer? I better watch out.

    Feingold for President! He is the ONLY Senator with guts and that’s taking both parties into consideration. Censure Bush, Impeach Bush, Lock him up… then try Cheney and Rove for treason. Now that would be the beginning of solving the problems.


  36. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #31 - Dear Congress - I don’t think it takes anyone with a genius intellect to see the braod scope of today’s political/cultural/religious “clash of the Titans”. This replay of the marauding Muslims has had a long history - which the West often refuses to remember or study. This is an attempt by radical Muslims to conquer or kill “infidels” - period. To bring a historical perspective to a more contemporary “clash” (the 20th Century victories over totalitarians) the US and allies were more in tune with protecting the nation, watching out for spies and traitors, and far less PC. Can you imagine FDR having to put up with a “loyal” opposition clamoring for an exit strategy before D-Day?? Can you imagine the result of WWII if the population were as polarized as today??? Unlike many here, I see this as a fight for Western Civilization - without apology.


  37. Solitaire Says:

    So, now we have a Congress of at least one. I wonder if any others will show up.


  38. Congress is Allowing the President to Spy on YOU Says:

    Mighty,
    You overestimate the Islamoterrorists and the Nation Builders count on that. You’re wrong to compare this Islamogarbage to WWII. The reason our country is polarized is religious bigotry propagated by Republicans and it has bled over into other arenas.
    That said, the people have spoken about the war and they’re coming around on spying.
    If we would have left Hitler alone it would have been the end for many. If we leave the Islamoterrorists alone, there is peace. I know you disagree wit this because you, like many, fall for the “they want to kill us all”. I don’t believe that. Besides, even if they did-What are we gonna do about it?
    The people have spoken about war against Arab countries. We can’t win them. It is certain genocide of our young soldiers.


  39. mighty aphrodite Says:

    Cyra - PLEASE continue to voice your displeasure with “your Party” - it’s the American Way….But as for the discipline you wish to be administered to GWB, I thought progs were far more lenient?


  40. RunningDogLackey Says:

    “Unlike many here, I see this as a fight for Western Civilization - without apology.”

    There are just some things you can’t apologize for.

    Don’t forget the Mongols. Those bastards STILL have it in for us.

    Hell, Victor Davis Hanson hasn’t gotten over the Pelopponesian Wars.

    And don’t get me started on the American Indians. Long memory for genocide on those guys, no matter how much they say they love life on the Rez.

    Fighting for Western Civilization. zowie. As bumper sticker sentiments go, that sure beats school vouchers.


  41. {ô>ô} _ Just_Mike_ {ô>ô} Says:

    After we have thrown our lives and bodies into the machine, they turn their backs though we can no longer straighten ours. The men who dedicated a lifetime to building the factories and machines and operate the presses and the assembly workers are now thrown away. While the fat cats find a new less demanding work force a work force that has no concept of a good standard of living, as anything that is better than a mud hole is acceptable. People who would and do sell their children into labor in order afford some cardboard to cover the mud hole. America is and has been being sold off piece by piece as they did to the factories in the 80’s demolished and scraped out as junk. We haven’t many left and the ones that are now demand that we as American citizens lower our standards of living as God forbid they might show a loss. A loss that is derived by projecting what they (the Fat Cats) think they should make this year and anything less than that is considered a loss. NOT Income less overhead = profit but anything less than a made up number.

    Now that the middle class has been sold out and as more and more of us move into the unemployment lines and welfare roles, the government, who forced this, sell off of the American dream has also turned it’s back on it’s citizens. You know, the ones who can’t afford their medications, the one’s who can no longer pay the amount of taxes we used to support this country with, the ones who are thrown into the gutter as an expendable worthless commodity.

    Our Civil rights are almost all gone, *for the first time in the history of this nation, federal agents and police officers have the right to conduct black-bag “sneak-and-peek” searches of homes and offices without first notifying you of their intent or without you even being present. Government officials can detain permanent residents indefinitely without charging them with a crime, almost on a whim or a mere suspicion. Moreover, law enforcement investigators can use roving wiretaps to listen in on your phone conversations. * Does this sound familiar something they do somewhere else, like China! We are told it’s for our own good as we are led to the slaughter, the slaughter of the middle class, the slaughter of any stable economic base, like, technology and manufacturing. Unless you consider a stable economic base as being defined as huge stores who show huge profits by selling goods made by mud hut dwelling children for 10 cents a month in China, and then tell us we must lower our standards of living in order to compete and be an equal worker.

    Who would crush us no one but our own government and we, the AMERICAN CITIZENS, are the collateral and pay the price with our lives, homes and freedom.

    AND THAT’S JUSTICE ????!!!!


  42. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #39 - “If we leave the Islamoterrorists alone, there is peace. I know you disagree wit this because you, like many, fall for the “they want to kill us all”. I don’t believe that. Besides, even if they did-What are we gonna do about it?
    The people have spoken about war against Arab countries. We can’t win them. It is certain genocide of our young soldiers.” - - Comment by Congress….
    *****I don’t see the evidence for your first sentence above. There is no peace with people who are not pursuing a peaceful strategy. Islamic hijackers and terror has been an ongoing problem for decades - I don’t think you just woke up but I am wondering at your ability to connect the dots. Unfortunately, these are people who will not be ignored - or appeased. “What are we gonna do about it?” I’m stunned - is your attitude, “let’s roll over and play dead - maybe they’ll spare us”?? Thank GOD we have had people who have fought for, died for and defended this wonderful country for 230 years! Perhaps my people are more determined or survival oriented than you and yours.


  43. Clif Says:

    #40 Not with a petty King which is what bush is acting like. Remember, the progs of 1776 did it to another petty king george and the conservatives of the time pulled a Benidict Arnold.


  44. cathyp Says:

    There are no more moderates. Either you are pro-Bush or you are anti-bush…there is no middle ground. I’m an anti-Bush person, any senator who is up for election (Clinton) that does does not vote for censure will not get my vote the November. It’s that simple.


  45. cynical ex-hippie Says:

    #37 Too bad for you, this situation bears absolutely no resemblance to WWII. In WWII every able bodied man signed up to fight. Anyone who didn’t was ostracized. Today, you hate when we criticize those who support the war but don’t sign up. In WWII that was the norm, and FDR is lucky he didn’t have the so-called loyal supporters who bristled at the word chickenhawk. In WWII, chickenhawk was an appropriate term for anyone who could and did not fight. In WWII, public support was through the roof, no matter how many thousands died. Today, each death brings support down more. This is American support failing you, the America you purport to love. In WWII, gasoline was rationed along with everything else. Nobody complained about the price of gas, nobody drove gas guzzlers because they were patriotic, not like today’s cowards who support Bush. In WWII, those who could not fight paid extra taxes. Today, we borrow money and the debt will fall upon the soldiers when they return. You are not a patriot. You are supporting terrorism and so is everyone who supports Bush and hates liberals.

    You see, liberalism is exactly what the terrorists hate about us. If you establish a conservative religous-based government, you will be giving terrorists exactly what they want. I hope you’re proud of yourself.


  46. RunningDogLackey Says:

    #43 MA — You’re being a drama queen.

    Yes, this stuff has been going on for decades — like the Mafia and the Basque separatists and bad German techno-pop.

    Existential alarm is unwarranted. People like you just miss the Soviet Union, because life isn’t the same without a planetary life-and-death struggle.

    I mean, “Red Dawn” just seems cheap and silly now…and that’s gotta hurt some folks. Kinda like seeing Peter Weller on “24.” Yikes!


  47. cynical ex-hippie Says:

    For some of us, Red Dawn seemed pretty cheap and silly in the 1980s. I mean come on, Russian and Cuban paratroopers coming to your small town high school? It was camp, and I pity those who ever took it seriously.


  48. mighty aphrodite Says:

    Running Dog - Your take on history is quaint…history is replete with civilization, exploration and conquest. If the American Indians had defeated the various Euros who desended on the continent, they would have either been killed or assimilated. And you and I could be weaving baskets or dealing black jack.

    But perhaps you attended a school with a course, “Evil Western Civilization - Conquest and Contamination”… or …”Guilt by Association - Beg $$$ from MOM and DAD”. But before your contempt gets away from you, remember Time Mags (c.2000) greatest invention - the printing press, wasn’t fashioned on the steppes, designed in the Amazon or put to use in igloos. In conclusion, you may wish to don a burka and memorize the Koran (or as the CAIR website spells it, Quran) - I don’t.


  49. RemoveBush Says:

    MA - you act like the Arabs have been attacking the USA for hundreds of years!

    They have only been attacking us since we have been medling in their affairs. Otherwise, they could care less about us, just like we should them.

    If we leave them alone, they WILL leave us alone.

    It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that if a person leaves a hornets nest alone, the hornets wont attack you. However, if you bother the hornets nest you will get stung!

    GEEZE!

    The reason we are in 8 TRILLION dollars debt is because you Republicans feel you MUST keep poking the hornets nest instead of worrying about real issues, like AMERICA!


  50. RunningDogLackey Says:

    #48 Indeed. But when all you have is Pop-Tarts and a car payment, thinking you and your tractor might be the Last Hope of the Western World made the corn flakes crunchier, and the polyester shirts less scratchy.


  51. RunningDogLackey Says:

    #49 Whatever floats your boat, sweetie. Or whatever keeps you looking under your bed.

    Me, I’m keeping an eye on those shifty Martians. They HAD canals once, dammit, but they camouflaged the network once they heard we had telescopes.


  52. Steve McGarrett Says:

    Frist added that the President’s warrantless domestic surveillance program was not just lawful but “a very good lawful constitutional program.”

    Responding to Sen. Feingold, Sen. Specter is now arguing on the floor of the senate that FISA is unconstitutional. Ergo, President Bush couldn’t have been violating the law becuase it’s not valid law. (according to Josh Marshall)

    SO IF BOTH STATEMENTS ARE CORRECT, THE MOTION TO CENSURE SHOULD BE REJECTED?


  53. Michdem Says:

    Isn’t it funny guys like Frist question the validity of the Bill of Rights when they are in trouble and then turn around and pick out of context what they need like a kid grabbing pepperonis off a pizza . Now my pick for prez . EVAN BAYH EVAN BAYH EVAN BAYH


  54. mighty aphrodite Says:

    Dear Hippie writes”
    “Too bad for you, this situation bears absolutely no resemblance to WWII.”
    ****We disagree - I see attacks on US soil, embassies, ships, military installations as horrifying - apparently you do not. I am not suggesting you think the US “had it coming” as many liberal and progressive professors proffered post 9/11.

    “In WWII every able bodied man signed up to fight. Anyone who didn’t was ostracized. Today, you hate when we criticize those who support the war but don’t sign up.” -
    ****Your sweeping “facts” are wrong - but we agree military enlistment WAS HUGE!! But if “every able bodied man enlisted”, why was there a draft in WWII?

    “Nobody complained about the price of gas, nobody drove gas guzzlers because they were patriotic,”
    ****Most of the gas consumed in the US and produced for the war effort was drilled AND refined HERE!!!! There was no commercial auto production - people drove whatever they could. The type of ground war has changed. You neglect - no surprise there - to mention the difference in military tactics and weaponry. (I hate to break this to you but “aeroplanes” have been replaced by jets, single action rifles are no more and blazing catapults have not been fashionable in warfare for centuries.

    As for liberalism being the reason the Islamofascists imans hate us - you’re probably right. They think the movies and music are smutty - give ‘em a Hustler by that great American liberal icon, Larry Flynt, throw in a lap dance and they’d go even crazier.

    Good night!!


  55. Specious Reasoning Says:

    Want-to-be President Bill Frist Okay with Distruction of 4th Amendment….

    This man want to take the thrown from George Bush. After Russ Fingold’s bill to censure Bush was intro’ed on the floor, Frist ran to the floor and said that he wanted a vote fast, because he thinks Bush’s shitting on the 4th Amendment is "a ver…


  56. Cyra Brown Says:

    #40- Ms. Aphrodite, it is because the Righties have let GWB run wild! And since they REFUSE to do their duty, it falls to us to do so. And he has been a VERY naughty boy! It’s for the best. Children need to know their boundaries. And GWB is a “special needs” child, much harder to teach. But we are willing to do it.


  57. Krazny Says:

    I don’t even want to get into the history of eastern muslim, and western christian civilization. I can see the arguments put forth here. One side says

    “if we leave the muslims alone they won’t attack us.”

    the other side states

    “muslims want to kill or covert all of us, so we have to kill or convert them first.”

    Too describe the social/political/religious situation in the middle east as complicated is a gigantic understatment.

    I do tend to fall with the crowd that believes, that the invasion of Iraq has more to do with Iraq’s oil then with any other motive. If true motives for wars throughout history are carefully studied, they tend to be motivated over control of natural resources i.e. seaports, minerals, oil, etc. This is not always true. WWII from the US prespective as about defending our way of life from a brutal facist dictatorship. However for the Nazi’s it was about resources and leibenstram?? not sure if I spelled that correctly. As is evidenced by our complete lack of interest in Sudan, and most of the rest of Africa.


  58. Ho Chi Minh Says:

    Here’s another one from Matthew; Blessed are the peacemakers, for they are the chidren of God.


  59. Clif Says:

    The real reason for rationing of fuel was to keep down the use of autos which causes the need for tires when they wear out and there is almost no domestic rubber but a lot in indochina which the Japanese captured in the second world war and was not liberated until near the very end of the war. The rubber was needed for the war effort….so the rationing was real my mother had the ration stamps. same reason silk stockings were hard to get the military needed the silk available for the parachutes….


  60. banana Says:

    what is this quote from ABCnews.com from Dick Cheney saying that “the American people have made their decision. They agree with the President.”

    Cheney said this in the context of Feingold’s wanting to censure Bush for his warrantless wiretapping of US citizens.

    Where the hell did Cheney get this lame-brained idea?


  61. Krazny Says:

    #61 my guess would be Fox news


  62. banana Says:

    oh that’s right. Fox (propaganda).


  63. Gary Ruppert Says:

    Frist wants to hold this vote because he knows it will put the Democrat Party in a bad position and present them as a party not willing to present their true Bushhating selves.

    Russ Feingold is more focused on punishing Our President than he is on winning the War on Terror.


  64. RunningDogLackey Says:

    Mighty Aphrodite is one silly gal. I wonder what makes her that way.


  65. RunningDogLackey Says:

    Ruppert — There is no War on Terror.

    And our president SHOULD be punished.


  66. Gary Ruppert Says:

    There is a War on Terror, being fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Russ Feingold’s opposition to terrorist monitoring isn’t helping to win the War on Terror, it’s showing the terrorists that some Americans are not serious about winning this War on Terrorism.

    I can only hope that Russ Feingold’s political career is destroyed soon. His support for the enemy is disgusting.

    Granted, all this aggression towards the President could be some sort of Feingold scheme to release anger that he had only released at home. I won’t say that Russ Feingold had domestic problems, but it’s a possibility. He has been divorced twice. Obviously something had to happen to cause a divorce. Violence or Infidelity being two possible reasons.

    The fact of the matter is that Russ Feingold’s extreme leftism has put him on the side of the enemy, and against America in this war.


  67. Clif Says:

    Russ Feingold is more focused on punishing Our President than he is on winning the War on Terror.

    Comment by Gary Ruppert — March 13, 2006 @ 9:12 pm

    Bush is more focused on Iraq than winning the real war on terror and has been since the late summer 2002…….. Pers Bush said..And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him……


  68. dano347 Says:

    Granted, all this aggression towards the President could be some sort of Feingold scheme to release anger that he had only released at home. I won’t say that Russ Feingold had domestic problems, but it’s a possibility. He has been divorced twice. Obviously something had to happen to cause a divorce. Violence or Infidelity being two possible reasons.”

    Comment by Gary Ruppert — March 13, 2006 @ 9:28 pm

    Like Newt Gingrich? At least Feingold wasn’t pushing for impeachment while doing the same thing the President was doing. Clay feet republicans should thing before they type


  69. Lisa W. Says:

    MA - it’s sad to see someone so deluded as yourself to think that you speak with any credibility. Then to prophecy and speak as ‘we’. Get over yourself first before you truly think that what you say has any ability to sustain a valid point or argument. I hope your “good night” was permanent!


  70. RunningDogLackey Says:

    Ruppert — President Bush has more personal problems than Russ Feingold.

    President Bush is an insecure, Oedipal dry-drunk who will do anything to redeem his own cowardice…anything that doesn’t require being a leader.

    Before you analyze Mr. Feingold, try your hand on this Failed-Son-of-a-Distant-Father, a man the whole nation mocks, and no one believes.


  71. Heynow Says:

    Bush broke the law by authorizing spying on Americans. It wasn’t just for seeking out terrorist, because I haven’t heard of him catchng any Americans colloborating with terrorist. I want to see if at least who is with the American people and not thier political careers. When I cast my vote and when I speak to others who are trying to decide how to vote I will remember how they vote for the censure.


  72. angryspittle Says:

    Why isn’t this man in jail or at least forced to wear an ankle bracelet?


  73. angryspittle Says:

    Gary Ruppert why the fuck are you here?

    Did God somehow curse this site?


  74. jurassicpork Says:

    You have to admit, it’s fun watching him windmill his arms on that skinny li’l tightrope. He’ll definitely be an assclown next week. And speaking of which…

    Assclowns #30. On the spit this week: Claude Allen, The Bush Administration, Right Wing Pundits, The Senate Intelligence Committee, Bill O’Reilly, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, SD Governor Mike Rounds and State Senator Bill Napoli, “Tweety” Matthews and MSNBC.


  75. richb Says:

    from ABCnews.com

    WASHINGTON Mar 13, 2006 (AP)— Democrats distanced themselves Monday from Wisconsin Sen. Russell Feingold’s effort to censure President Bush over domestic spying, preventing a floor vote that could alienate swing voters.

    A day of tough, election-year talk between Feingold and Vice President Dick Cheney ended with Senate leaders sending the matter to the Judiciary Committee.

    “I look forward to a full hearing, debate and vote in committee on this important matter,” Feingold said in a statement late Monday. “If the Committee fails to consider the resolution expeditiously, I will ask that there be a vote in the full Senate.”


  76. Jack Hicks Says:

    What Feingold knows that most of these cowardly Dems ignore at their peril is his legal argument is unassailable and his political position will become stronger and stronger the longer the albatross of Iraq crushes Bush. Hillary can take the triangulation and political expediency and rub it in her chest.


  77. Don Says:

    Feingold has no support from other Democrats, the loyal-to-Bush opposition. No support. Zero. Zip. Nada. None. Bye-bye, Feingold. Political suicide abetted by your fellow toxic Dems. or Donks. What a shameful bunch of spineless snakes. No, even snakes have spines.


  78. RunningDogLackey Says:

    Doesnt matter how the vote goes, as long as the media keeps repeating the words:

    Bush. Censure. Impeach. Bush. Censure. Impeach.

    Everything else is kabuki. The right time will come. And the Coward-in-Chief will go.


  79. Don Says:

    Dog,

    Right, nothing matters, because nothing changes. Our “representatives” have all been bought off, it’s a cash-and-carry Congress, we’ve got taxation without representation and only a revolution would change it.


  80. WaltTheMan Says:

    ma, The draft was instituted in WWII in order to separate the wheat from the chaff. My father was a Captain in the Navy on 12/07/1941. A week later, he was a civilian and working at Bendix in Baltimore. Why? He had a PHD from MIT in microwave electronics (does RADAR ring a bell?). Father-in-law, similar reason - skilled machinist. That is the reason it was called “selective service”.
    Both men tried to serve (father-in-law was jailed twice and pops lost his Naval pension when he told his Admiral to perform an unnatural act.


  81. Congress is Allowing the President to Spy on YOU Says:

    No mighty,
    While you compare this Islamo stuff to WWII, rationale people are comparing it to Viet Nam.
    Associating Islamogoobers to the Third Reich is an insult to Hitler.
    Tell me, mighty-How far does that “with us or against us” get you in your day to day life?
    How long do you think you can call patriots cowards before you find yourself at the end of a rope?


  82. Don Says:

    Earth to Russ: The next time you get a bright idea like this it would be a good idea to have some support lined up. Duh.


  83. joshdestardi Says:

    Jack Hicks, I completely agree with your statements.

    Feingold will be seen as the lone dissenting, true American when all is said and done.

    Your comment that his legal reasoning is unassailable in regards to wiretapping w/o warrants, is absolutely dead-on.

    It pains me to see the other weak-kneed dems not support his call. What are they afraid of? Are they not reading report after report that Americans would support Dems, but they have no strong, unified message?

    A vote to censure bush would be just that display of unity, and strength.


  84. joshdestardi Says:

    ..also, I make those previous comments secure in the knowledge of Feingold consistently voting in American civil liberty, and Democratic history’s best interests. Voting against the patriot act, voting against resolution to consider war. (note, the resolution was to consider war, not a full-on resolution to go to war)

    It takes a loner, and a singular voice of reason to go against the grain, and serve as a catalyst for change. All rebels at one point were ridiculed, and shamed for speaking out, but nothing gets done without these brave people.

    He will be sitting pretty in the end, because he sides with the Law. the Law. remember, back in the day when Clinton was impeached for perjury over getting oral sex? It was “the rule of law!” the Republicans claimed.

    On that basis alone, the chimp is toast. No paper trail for spying on Americans? Why? Why not? There is no justifiable reason. Is our Intel community rife with Terrorist spies?

    There are no justifiable reasons why our DEMOCRACTIC government should be given a blank check when it comes to liberties our Constitution affords us. There is no reason why a paper trail of who the government is spying on would be detrimental to the “war on terror” (aka, new religious war sponsored by the chimp)


  85. find gold Says:

    well now you done it - put all those pussy dems on record - show what a weak and disorganized bunch of player haters and do nothings you really are - sweet 08


  86. cynical ex-hippie Says:

    ****We disagree - I see attacks on US soil, embassies, ships, military installations as horrifying - apparently you do not.

    Apparently you have no perception of what I think.

    I am not suggesting you think the US “had it coming” as many liberal and progressive professors proffered post 9/11.

    You are suggesting you have no idea what liberal and progressive means, or who is or what anyone thinks but you.

    ****Your sweeping “facts” are wrong - but we agree military enlistment WAS HUGE!! But if “every able bodied man enlisted”, why was there a draft in WWII?

    I don’t know, maybe to catch those few cowards hiding behind mom’s skirts? I know young men who stayed behind were not looked upon as patriots. Apparently you disagree.

    ****Most of the gas consumed in the US and produced for the war effort was drilled AND refined HERE!!!!

    True, but we burned it all and now get it from elsewhere. Canada, mostly.

    There was no commercial auto production - people drove whatever they could.

    Are you really that ignorant? No commercial auto production in the 1940s? Open a history book and look up “Is this trip necessary?” and “When you ride alone you ride with Hitler.” Gasoline was rationed like everything else. Taxes were raised to the maximum possible. Because that’s what war is. Not this pansy tax cut gas guzzler whiny crybaby no draft shit.

    The type of ground war has changed. You neglect - no surprise there - to mention the difference in military tactics and weaponry. (I hate to break this to you but “aeroplanes” have been replaced by jets, single action rifles are no more and blazing catapults have not been fashionable in warfare for centuries.

    So you’re saying we can burn as much fuel as we want now, without any concern for the consequences in this so-called war against oil producting states? That our army no longer relies on oil and raw materials?

    As for liberalism being the reason the Islamofascists imans hate us - you’re probably right. They think the movies and music are smutty - give ‘em a Hustler by that great American liberal icon, Larry Flynt, throw in a lap dance and they’d go even crazier.

    See, now you’re sounding like those nutty professors you hate so much. You think if only we instituted the kind of repressive censor-happy theocracy Jerry Fallwel and his ilk have been pushing for, the Islamofascists would leave us alone. I disagree with you there.

    Good night!!

    Good night and good luck. I hope you have sweet dreams about all the great progress in Iraq Bush talks about.


  87. Lora Says:

    In conclusion, you may wish to don a burka and memorize the Koran (or as the CAIR website spells it, Quran) - I don’t.

    Comment by mighty aphrodite —

    Mighty Hypocrite,
    For one who has accused me and probably other people on the left of thinking only in terms of black and white, you are certainly guilty of doing what you criticize others for and seem quite incapable of thinking in shades of gray–or purple, pink, and green, for that matter. Specifically, being opposed to the Busheviks doesn’t mean we want “to don a burka and memorize the Korean/Quran.” That’s just one of your silly fantasies.
    “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism,” Thomas Jefferson


  88. mr ho Says:

    The Crazy Farm
    [[An Obvious Ripoff of Orwell]]
    Chapter 1 ~ The Crazy Farm ~
    rehashed by -Colon P. Owell

    Lord RottenChild, of the Whoremore Farm, had locked the cackling hen-houses for the night, but was too drunk to remember to shut the popholes. With the ring of light from his lantern dancing from side to side, he lurched across the yard, kicked off his boots at the back door, drew himself a last glass of beer from the barrel in the scullery, and made his way up to bed, where Queen Rottenchild was already snoring.

    As soon as the light in the bedroom went out there was a stirring and a fluttering all through the farm buildings. Word had gone round during the day that old Major Con, the prize Blue-Blooded boar, had had a strange dream on the previous night and wished to communicate it to the rest of the “Herd”. It had been agreed that they should all meet in the big barn as soon as Lord Rottenchild was safely passed out. Old Major Con (so he was always called, though the name under which he had been exhibited was House of Duopoly ) was so highly regarded on the farm that everyone was quite ready to lose an hour’s sleep in order to hear what he had to say.

    At one end of the big barn, on a sort of raised platform, Major Con was already ensconced on his bed of straw, under a lantern which hung from a beam. He was old and had lately grown rather stout, but he was still a majestic-looking Pig with a wise and benevolent appearance in spite of the fact that his tushes had never been cut. Major Con Did not cotton to the name “PIG” and preffered Neo-Con, or Just “Con”.
    Klick Here for the Story of the Herd =)


  89. Yahweh Says:

    Angryspittle:

    America was given a choice. A decent government or a plague of idiots. You picked the idiots. Bad choice.


  90. cats are flyfishn Says:

    #37 - and the Crusades continue… my vote is for the lions.


  91. ElectricBassPlayer Says:

    Trolls are trolls because they completely miss the point, and today’s contributions are no different.

    Feingold’s censure resolution has nothing to do with being for or against the terrorists. It has everything to do with the direction our government is going. We are turning into a fascistic state where the Constitution that so many courageous Americans died protecting means nothing, all in a misguided, cynical power grab in the name of national security.

    Now the President breaks the laws, admits he did so, and, incredibly, says he will do so again. In order to provide a fig-leaf of respectability, the Congress passes laws that retroactively legalize these acts, apparently unafraid that the final Constitutional check on dictatorial authority, the Supreme Court, won’t strike these laws down, and they may be right.

    I am always stunned and amazed at the trolls. They call themselves conservatives but the actions of the Bush administration are completely the opposite of what true conservatism is about. There seems to be a sort of Bush-worship, a cult of personality, where anything he does is OK, where even questioning his authority is branded treason.

    America is turning into a fascist state. ironically we are becoming more and more like the regimes we were ideologically opposed to in the past. Fortunately it seems the American people have had enough, and if Bush allows another attack on American soil — which wouldn’t surprise me one bit — everyone would recognize that his security policies only serve to damage American civil liberties while enhancing the richest of the rich’s bank accounts.


  92. big papa Says:

    Bill Frist is a traitor to this country…

    Like ALL Bushites…


  93. Paul in Mexico Says:

    Fiengold just wants to get this in front of the senate - then we can all see if the pukes who spoke out against it will vote for censure. Goes for dems too.

    BILL FRIST: physician - heal thyself. Give yourself an enema.


  94. progressive and proud Says:

    Something had to happen to cause a divorce? Good point Ruppert. So, let’s see how many republicans have been divorced more than once.

    Everyone - let’s go digging. I think this will help Ruppert make his decisions on who to vote for. Just trying to help out the misinformed.


  95. mighty aphrodite Says:

    Let’s have a vote on the censure!!!! Right now (!!!) - or does Senator Feingold need more time in front of the cameras to ensure all leftist progs know his anti-war, anti-Bush sentiments?? “FEINGOLD: the choice of the progressive base” - now there’s a slogan for you. I didn’t think progs were so slow…..


  96. Wills Says:

    That is progress - now even the dirty rats are jumping ship!!


  97. progressive and proud Says:

    EBP - What a lovely bunch of coconuts - thank you. God love those nice moral conservative christians. Yep, republicans sure hold the morality card.


  98. progressive and proud Says:

    Now we know why anti-choice freaks don’t want “babies killed” - they want to have sex with them.


  99. DS Says:

    #67, Didn’t take long to pull out the Swiftboat tactics on Feingold! Your party would be proud of you. I especially like the way you insinuated lots of crap, but left enough wiggle room to cry out that you hadn’t said anything when busted for it.

    “Granted, all this aggression towards the President could be some sort of Feingold scheme to release anger that he had only released at home. I won’t say that Russ Feingold had domestic problems, but it’s a possibility. He has been divorced twice. Obviously something had to happen to cause a divorce. Violence or Infidelity being two possible reasons.”

    Obviously something happened to cause you to be hateful and spiteful. Violence and infidelity being two possible reasons. Something from your childhood you’d like to share with the group?

    #97 — great job! Everyone should keep that list now that Repubs have shown how they plan to go after Feingold. I’d like to add:

    Limbaugh is currently separated from that wife and has been dating a CNN anchor for over a year — so there will be six divorces to go along with those six marriages soon, and…

    Guiliani CHEATED very publicly on his second wife before she divorced him, and…

    Newt Gingrich has been divorced twice — his first wife when she was in the hospital undergoing cancer treatment (for his second wife, whom he was already seeing), and his second wife (whom he also cheated on, with his third wife).


  100. Shiva H. Vishnu Says:

    Here’s what I just wrote Sen. Arlen Spector: Please allow me to express my concern over your position on Senator Feingold’s resolution of censure. As a citizen of the United States, I’m far more concerned about my 1st and 4th Amendment rights, than I am about Article 2. So when you claim the Constitution trumps a statute (FISA), I’d prefer you fight for your constituent’s rights, over the President’s.


  101. unbelievable Says:

    I’d prefer you fight for your constituent’s rights, over the President’s.

    Comment by Shiva H. Vishnu — March 14, 2006 @ 12:24 pm

    Me too… Nice message.

    Does anyone know if they actually read anything we send them? I mean they have admitted to not reading the bills they pass, why should they bother with the people they supposedly represent?


  102. big papa Says:

    Now we know why anti-choice freaks don’t want “babies killed” - they want to have sex with them.

    Comment by progressive and proud #100

    BINGO!

    Inbreeding: a “conservative’s” idea of family planning…

    …no sh*t,

    …just ask the South Dakota Legislature…


  103. Benjamin Franklin Says:

    Let the people vote on Censure and let Congress impose the will of the people.

    Let the people vote on Impeachment and let Congress impose the will of the people.

    The government has no legitimacy except to the extent that it adheres to the will of the people.

    The extent to which the government disregards the will of the people is the extent to which the government is illegitimate.


  104. big papa Says:

    The fact of the matter is that Russ Feingold’s extreme leftism has put him on the side of the enemy, and against America in this war.

    Comment by Gary Ruppert #67

    Scary “Gary” Pookbutt,

    …a TREASONOUS dog that can’t help licking his own sh*t…

    …you’ll die before you admit you voted for a piece of sh*t…

    …TWICE!


  105. progressive and proud Says:

    #104 It is kind of a sparse population you know. I suppose they need all they can get.


  106. Lora Says:

    #97 ElectricBassPlayer,
    Thanks for the rather exhaustive and enlightening list. However, you should add that Newt Gingrich has been divorced twice. He dumped his second wife for a much younger woman who “worked” in his office. The affair was going on while he was trying to get Clinton impeached for oral sex.


  107. Lora Says:

    Ps. #97 ElectricBassPlayer,
    Your list is great but a bit outdated. In addition to adding Newt’s second divorce, it should also include current House Majority Whip Roy Blunt as divorced and remarried to a female lobbyist. Then there’s that married GOP Mayor of Spokane, WA who was caught soliciting young men–usually minors–for sex over his office computer. And the man (maybe named Ryan?) who won the GOP Senate primary in Illinois in 2004, and was set to run against Barack Obama until his estranged wife revealed his penchant for kinky sex, etc. These just came off the top of my head. There are probably others. Any other additions, folks?


  108. Lora Says:

    Also to add to the list of prominent GOP divorced men: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas , who is Catholic (naughty, naughty!) and Dumbya’s first Solicitor General Ted Olson, who previously had tried to dig up dirt on Clinton for Ken Starr and was married twice before wedding conservative pundit Barbara, who died in one of the 9/11 airplanes.
    Hey, fellow liberals/progressives: I spend a lot of time overseas. Can’t any of you who spend most or all of the year in the US think of some other wonderful examples of GOP moral values to present to our trolls?


  109. big papa Says:

    Hey, fellow liberals/progressives: I spend a lot of time overseas. Can’t any of you who spend most or all of the year in the US think of some other wonderful examples of GOP moral values to present to our trolls?

    Lora #110

    Hell, Bushiva didn’t turn “Christian” ’til he was 40…

    …no one can find his roommates when he was a cheerleader…

    …and they’ve yet to explain what Gannon- “White House press corp reporter-and-web male-prostitute”- was doing in the Oval Office all that time…

    …Brokeback Bushites- man it doesn’t get any sleazier than that…


  110. Lora Says:

    You’re right, big papa. And until we have a Democrat Congress again, the Brokeback White House won’t be explaining Gannon/Guckert. I believe Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) and John Conyer (D-MI) asked for more information and were refused.
    Come to think of it, hasn’t Karl Rove been divorced once? Not that that means he is gay, but there are such rumors about him, Scott McClellan and RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman, among others.


  111. Thou Shall Not Suck » An Open Letter to the Democratic Party Says:

    […] Instead, you cower in fear like abused puppies any time the White House accuses you all of “playing politics.” Last I checked, you all were politicians, right? If so, isn’t that the game you’re supposed to play, especially when the other side participates on a regular basis? […]


  112. mighty aphrodite Says:

    EBP and Lora, better watch out for that “glass house” you seem to be living in - I’ve heard those shards are sharp!!!



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