AOL News has a chart — in a section called “Where Are We Headed” — that makes it appear that casualties in Iraq are dramatically declining:
Of course, we’re less than three months into 2006. Here is what an intellectually honest chart looks like (click for full size version):
I didn’t know that Phaux Pnews bought out Time Warner….. When did that happen?
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March 15th, 2006 at 4:57 pmHey, when I was in college, I got 100% on every single test I took. As long as you don’t count the ones I got wrong.
What do you mean I’m misrepesenting the facts?
March 15th, 2006 at 4:58 pmGreat catch. What asshats.
March 15th, 2006 at 4:59 pmload of rubbish that graph .its only mid march lot more american soldiers to get wasted yet . my calculations based on performance is another 400 yet to go this year ..and they deserve it…
They don’t deserve it. They didn’t ask to go there, they’re following orders.
No, the ones who made the decision to send them will never feel the consequences. They’re too busy rolling in their giant piles of money.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:00 pmOkay … can someone explain to me how in the holy hell they can run a graph that contains 2006 when the year isn’t even over yet?
Granted, it is AOL, so only 12 year old girls and 65 year old men will see the thing, but c’mon …
March 15th, 2006 at 5:02 pmCreationist math!
March 15th, 2006 at 5:04 pm.
I noticed that nobody wanted to claim this “intellectually honest” post. But, not to worry brave supporters of our men in uniform, I’m sure there will be some kind of left wing abetted slaughter of our boys in the coming weeks that will give you a nice big spike upward you can add to your graph.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:05 pmSo I guess less of casualties in vain are better than more casualties in vain. I’m sure this info will spur recruitment won’t it?
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March 15th, 2006 at 5:07 pmIndeed we’re only 2.5 months into 2006.
Their chart is just silly.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:07 pm#2,
Monkey nut,
Hey dude, I think we agree on a lot of things, but the Americans and Iraqis who have yet to die this year do not deserve death. Go easy on the dumbasses who signed up for that shit, they are just stupid, or have been duped. Example: Lynndie England – stupid.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:09 pmTime to sell your Time-Warner stock, they probably use the same charts for their financials.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:10 pmbetter graph here
http://icasualties.org/oif/USChart.aspx
134 so far this year in 74 days, that means on average another 660 troop still to get popped , live by the swords die by the sword hee hee hee idiots
moan moan moan ,, But i joined the marines to see foreign countries and to save some money,,,its all still blood money whether your front line or pushing buttons on a computer in the california reserves……..BLOOD MONEY
March 15th, 2006 at 5:10 pmPerhaps we should have Ross Perot do the chart, hopefully then everything will be settled.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:10 pmYea that “they deserve it” is completely wrong. It’s the poor grunts who are taking the beating, not the feeble idiots at the top of the DOD & Executive Branch that are making the decisions.
Now if they made Darth Cheney and King dumbya go clear mines on the Bhagdad to the airport highway, I think we’d all say that then, fair IS fair. You with us i-right-i?
March 15th, 2006 at 5:12 pmDid anyone notice that when you look at the intellecutally honest chart, a bunch of “W’s” are made out by the ups and downs of the monthly variation in deaths?
This is “W’s” war and god keeps sending messages to him….
March 15th, 2006 at 5:12 pmIRI,
The post is about how the media misleads, not about anything else. So stop making it out to be about the troops. I would never wish anyone of them dead, and except for the stupid monkey nut, no one else would either.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:12 pmI did a simple extrapolation of the data on the AOL graph (2.5 months is to 125 casualties as 12 months is to “x” casualties, and I find that if the casualty trend continues, we can expect 475 additional deaths of our troops this year, for a total of 600 in 2005.
Amazing that some buffoon could publish such garbage. Even my 8th grade math students could see that the graph is highly skewed. This is why I teach them to look at media graphs with a trained eye so they don’t accept false or misleading information.
The person who generated this graph should have to republish an accurate graph and admit the error. He/she probably was GW’s math teacher.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:14 pmActually its pretty eerie and sad that there are many Americans and Iraqi civilians who are going to die, this year, in the war, and they don’t know it. It’s almost like you want to warn them or something.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:16 pm#10 – I agree with you on banning “monkey brains”. Anyone who doesn’t appreciate the sacrifices our veterans have been shouldering should shut the hell up. (Pardon my language.)
I disagree with your post #8, because it’s the current administration that will provide our soldiers a time & place for them to die for our country and “spike” the graph. Iran is probably their next stop on the “endless-war train”. I’d mention North Korea but since they don’t have any oil VPres. Cheney will never authorize an attack there.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:17 pm10- They haven’t banned you, and you spout things just as stupid as that on a much more frequent basis.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:17 pmIf that were read the second graph, like a stock chart on wall street the trends would be UP, the lows are incrementally higher, and the highs except for the two months surrounding the fallugha campaign are also trending higher. Any wall street anaylsist if you showeed them the chart and did not tell them what the chart was showing would agree. (The stock seems to be rising in value), but since the chart is lives lost the value is being lost too.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:18 pm17- Hard to spell wholesale slaughter and warmongering asshole without “W.”
March 15th, 2006 at 5:19 pmHey Judd….if you love your country ban this asshole.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — March 15, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
You don’t really want him to do that. He makes you tolerable.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:19 pmThis is “W’s†war and god keeps sending messages to him….
Comment by Ted — March 15, 2006 @ 5:12 pm
Too bad Georgie’s dyslexic, huh?
March 15th, 2006 at 5:20 pm#19,
Sadly this is why dumming down the educational system and having a nation with the average person in no way of even noticing the flawed graph has a purpose. In college statistics I was taught about how stats can be manipulated. When I discuss this concept, most people just stare like a deer in headlights. Many, many of the people just think they are being told the truth, and the media, government, etc. are supposed to be honest. These are good people being taken advantage of. Are they stupid? or just naive?
March 15th, 2006 at 5:21 pmDespite the strange downward spike in the chart…
THE NUMBER OF U.S. TROOPS KILLED IN IRAQ IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF 2006…
Is equal to the number killed in Iraq in January and February of 2005: 59
And is only one less than the number killed in January and February of 2004: 60
WHAT THE CHART COULD HAVE SHOWED THOUGH…
Is that the 17 U.S. Troops killed so far in the first 15 days of March 2006, represents the lowest fatality rate so far (1.13 per day) of any month since February of 2004 (0.79).
And while that seems an odd thing to be thankful for, we somehow are thankful for it.
And we look forward to the month in which no U.S. Troops have been killed in Iraq (0.00), which we wish would be April of 2006…
But we will be thankful for whatever month it turns out to be, whenever that month happens.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:21 pmIt makes no difference to me about this war which way the graph goes , because to me any number is too much . This isn’t a football game here , this is about peoples and their loved ones lives .
March 15th, 2006 at 5:22 pmclose your eyes and picture 2213 dead millitary. Each one had a family. For what?
March 15th, 2006 at 5:26 pmWow. This graph is staggering. While thinking about it, I realized that 2006 has had a significantly smaller number of months than all other years in recorded history. For example: 2004 had 12, 2005 had 12, 2006? Only 3! (according to my chart) Imagine if we extrapolate that trend!
March 15th, 2006 at 5:27 pmIRI,
Unlike your philosophical tendancies, we tend to tolerate people more than you do. I have noticed with my own posts (which are civil, and within terms of use), get almost instantly deleted from the Right Wing sites. Don’t get your panties all up in a wad over the dork.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:27 pmWhen the Iraqis stop messin with each other then they will gang up together and there will be evn more American deaths, so far 150,000 civillians have died now and each of them has a families,neighbors,friends that hate Americans , Its called Karma
March 15th, 2006 at 5:28 pm#29
I agree that it IS about people and their loved ones lives. That is why when I see blatantly misleading graphs like the AOL one, I cringe to think that only a very small percentage will be able to interpret it. By “softening the blow” about how many people are being put into harm’s way by GW, the creators of the graph only fuel GW’s assertion that things are on the uptick. If you add up all the misleading graphs, skewed statistics, and uneducated opinions viewed by people, intentional or unintentional, you can only add to prolonging the misery in Iraq.
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March 15th, 2006 at 5:35 pmmkw – you don’t know when to stop do you?
C’mon, stop being a DICK! We don’t like the Iraqi War any more than you. & you don’t know Buddism very well. That isn’t Karma. Karma is having what you’ve done to the world come back to you. You’re example was having what others have done to the world come back to you. That isn’t how Buddists (Zen or otherwise) view things. Educate yourself…..
March 15th, 2006 at 5:37 pm10- They haven’t banned you, and you spout things just as stupid as that on a much more frequent basis.
Comment by David —
Nonsense, I’ve been banned twice already but like the proverbial bad penny…..
I’ve never said anything near as evil as that loser’s comment about our troops deserving to die.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:38 pmTP mods: how about a comparison, those numbers vs. verified Iraqi civilian casualities over the same period?
March 15th, 2006 at 5:39 pmIf you want to get technical,the official casualty report available from the DoD would show that while total deaths are 2310,since the end of combat operations,the total is 1693 from hostile action and 471 from non-hostile action. There have also been 6 non-military fatalities in action and 1 civilian casualty from non-hostile action.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:40 pmLet’s also have AOL put up a chart of thw wounded so they can show the number WIA-RTD and WIA notRTD.
Lies,damned lies and statistics (and statistical charts).
#10 – Pot. Kettle. Black.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:40 pmin fact by the end of this year total figures should be hopefully 3000 dead American soldiers and about 25,000 wounded
Its the Iraqis i feel sorry for what did they ever do to America
Comment by Monkey Knut Wrench — March 15, 2006 @ 5:35 pm
Actually, I-RIGHT-I, this guy should make you realize that we’re not as intolerable as you frequently suggest either.
It’s all perspective. Crazy depends on exactly who you’re standing next to and whose definition you’re going by.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:41 pm#35
Place the blame on where it should be shouldered – George Bush and his administration. The soldiers are only doing their JOBS, and comments like yours are inflammatory and acrid. I too, feel sorry for the people of Iraq, but our soldiers over there shouldn’t bear any recriminatory, nasty statements.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:41 pmin fact by the end of this year total figures should be hopefully 3000 dead American soldiers and about 25,000 wounded
Its the Iraqis i feel sorry for what did they ever do to America
Comment by Monkey Knut Wrench
I see your link to Justin “FMFB” Raimondo’s homosexual encounter site. How is the little homo prick these days. Is he still trying to get into Sullivan’s pants?
March 15th, 2006 at 5:41 pmPlace the blame on where it should be shouldered – George Bush and his administration. The soldiers are only doing their JOBS,
Comment by Real math
Yeah, don’t blame the guys who attacked us or Saddam or the Muslim headchoppers….just blame George and it all will make sense to you. ……dumbass.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:51 pmLOL, I-R-I, you want to throw stones when the administrator of a gay male prostitute site was invited into the White House to feel softballs — oops, I mean, feed softballs — oops, that doesn’t sound right either — over 200 times to various officials, including the President? Without (apparently) a background check?
You sure this guy makes you feel better about security? Then you really are an idiot.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:52 pmIN GODS NAME, could somebody at this site please remove post #35.
Thank you.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:53 pm…and every other post that echos that same comment.
Thank you.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:54 pmAnd we look forward to the month in which no U.S. Troops have been killed in Iraq (0.00), which we wish would be April of 2006…
Unfortunately, I don’t see that statistic getting posted until the last troops are pulled out of the clusterfuck of Dick and George’s road to Baghdad adventure.
Exactly, when did obstinate become synonomous with resolute? Orwell would either laugh or cringe.
March 15th, 2006 at 5:54 pm#44 “Yeah, don’t blame the guys who attacked us or Saddam or the Muslim headchoppers….just blame George and it all will make sense to you. ……dumbass.”
We did attack them, in Afgahanistan, along with Canadians, French and other troops — a true “coalition of the willing.” Bush could have done so much good after that.
Instead he fucked up and went off into his petty, vindictive adventure against Saddam, who never attacked us and never harbored al-Queda. Now Iraq is turning into a training ground for a new generation of terrorists and Iran has moved in to fill the vacuum, thank you. . .
March 15th, 2006 at 5:55 pmmy views are justified by support of many non Americans – Face the real world for once
March 15th, 2006 at 5:57 pmYou know, if we just go ahead and stop the progress of time entirely, we can declare “Mission Accomplished!”
March 15th, 2006 at 5:58 pmHey Monkey’s Nuts,
Why do I feel some conservative outlet will soon be reporting about how liberal blogs are “rooting” for more American deaths?
Ya freakin’ moron.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:00 pmAnd we look forward to the month in which no U.S. Troops have been killed in Iraq (0.00), which we wish would be April of 2006…
But we will be thankful for whatever month it turns out to be, whenever that month happens.
Comment by Dem02020 — March 15, 2006 @ 5:21 pm
Did you draw that AOL graph ?????your brainwashing the public too..
March 15th, 2006 at 6:00 pmI’ve never said anything near as evil as that loser’s comment about our troops deserving to die.
Yes, in fact you have, and on an almost daily basis. I think it would be harder to find a post that makes a logical point, decent argument, or anything resembling sentient adult conversation rather than simply insulting, disparaging or just plain hateful.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:02 pmwhat i want is Americans troops brought home, Bush locked up , waterboarded to admit to his crimes, guatanamo shut down and those poor innocent people reunited with their loved ones, every country to have nuclear bombs, so that world peace can be acheived, and America to start teaching love and peace in high schools
is this too much ta ask
March 15th, 2006 at 6:05 pmMath I don’t think is Time Warner/AOL strong suit….HHHmmm, Steve Case made out like a bandit selling AOL to Time Warner before the bubble burst.
This illness has a name Innumeracy.
Check Iraq casualties.
Do we even count Afghanistan anymore?
Do we even count the soldiers maimed?
March 15th, 2006 at 6:08 pmyer wasting out time guy.
You don’t see it but you are just like the reichtwingnutz, just coming froma different perspective.
We who are the middle aren’t so bad. Yea, we ARE the middle, even if the extremes won’t agree.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:09 pmNote: A few comments on this thread have been delted. Advocating violence against anyone is not permitted.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:13 pm#54
I agree with you, David. I have been looking in on this site for several weeks now, and I see the IRI guy post his garbage, disparaging remarks, and angry, personal outbursts.
What IRI is probably angry about is that his GW, tottering on his weakening administration, IS responsible for the carnage. What probably makes him even more upset is that GW will keep up his senseless “war” for several more YEARS, driving himself and his party even deeper into the morass, and all Americans, deeper into debt as we continue to pay, again, and again, for a false war run on our financial backs. 3 more years…….not looking forward to them or IRI’s next intelligent comment.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:15 pmSo your saying the reason neoconservative trolls are so disagreeable is because what they see going on in the real world conflicts with their programming?
So I-R-I and might afrodite are a HAL-9000 waiting to happen?
Open the pod bay doors, HAL!
March 15th, 2006 at 6:22 pmHehehe, mighty afro-dite, she’ll LOVE that. . . hehehe
March 15th, 2006 at 6:23 pm#56 Jack
Thanks for the link to the Innumeracy book page. I’ll definitely get that book and add it to my math library.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:24 pmsee this
http://www.lies.com/wp/2003/10/20/us-deaths-in-vietnam-and-iraq-by-month/
March 15th, 2006 at 6:29 pmMy goodness what a dishonest chart. Anyone with half of a brain and even a modest amount of math background understands the fallacy in their chart. Obviously at AOL they have no statisticians, or else they’re kissing up to King George.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:34 pmThank you very much.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:43 pm“Creationist math!”
LMAO!!!
March 15th, 2006 at 6:48 pmI-WRONG-I,
In #44, could you remind us again which terrorists who struck on 9/11 were Iraqi nationals?
I also highly recommend reading the 9/11 Commision’s report. AGAIN.
Thanks.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:57 pmI guess AOL thought they needed to dumb down the facts a little for their audience. Well, maybe not just a little…
March 15th, 2006 at 7:05 pmJG.. The operable word “read”, have you gandered a look at his posts, comprehension is severely lacking given his replies. He might look at the words but comprehend the meaning is something foreign to his modus operandi
March 15th, 2006 at 7:07 pmI feel I must aplogise for the uncalled for comments [2]
Saddly though not everyone is in a position to refuse fighting in Iraq. Huge numbers of service persional are actively seeking ways to exit the army. And recuiter are having trouble filling the gaps. ironicly targeting republicans voters (without much success)
While Bush was able to escape active combat by joining the “senators son” unit. Us army personal have no such lucury. The majority are there to fullfill there duty as soldiers. Through no fault of there own are dying and scarificing for us whether we understand it or not.
They’ve been placed in an unwinabe situation not by there choosing but by this incompetent adminidtration.
March 15th, 2006 at 7:23 pmIs it just me, or do we have an agent provocateur posting in here?
March 15th, 2006 at 7:31 pm[Comment deleted by admin.]
March 15th, 2006 at 7:58 pmThis is a result of what happens when poorly educated college grads are turned loose with Excel. One must actually understand the statistical process to create accurate charts.
March 15th, 2006 at 8:00 pm#72
Your welcome to your views nutcase. Just please don’t spout them here. Save it for your twisted friends- I don’t think you have any here. You deserve to be banned.
March 15th, 2006 at 8:08 pm[...] AOL News Misrepresents Iraq Casualties [...]
March 15th, 2006 at 8:16 pmthe occupation started in March of 2003 so 2003 is three months short. A fifth grader could have told aol if they wanted to plot the deaths of American soldiers per year they would have to start in March. The graph as it is written is worthless
March 15th, 2006 at 8:16 pmWhat a stupid graph! I agree with Walter66. 2003 is three months short and 2006 is only three month old.
March 15th, 2006 at 8:37 pmIt’s a worthless distortion. BTW, AOL polls are generally right-leaning, except the trend of late has been more left-leaning. That makes me think some of the twits are now actually seeing what has been before their eyes for years.
the end of the year 2005 ends on March 20, 2006
March 15th, 2006 at 8:40 pmMonkeynuts, in the immortal words of BO and Limbaugh…SHUT UP!! For once I would agree with them. You are a sick little bastard hoping for high body counts. You are the kind of loser that gives us liberals a bad name. You are like a left-wing Man Coulter, disgusting to listen to and I am sure nobody wants to get you in bed either.
March 15th, 2006 at 8:49 pmThe religious zealots in Iraq are no different than the religous zealots in AMerica. They are all right wing conservatives.
March 15th, 2006 at 9:07 pmMonkey Knut Wrench,
Dude, you need to chill. I was in the US Army and took an oath to “DEFEND the country against enemies both forgein and domestic.” Nowhere in there do you see “To pre-emptively strike a country that poses no threat nor has anything to do with September 11, 2001. The US Military is not Attilla the Hums men. They aren’t freaking Vikings that sign up to go loot and plunder other countries. They sign up to protect our shores against our enemies. Saddam Hussein had no Navy or Air Force to get troops onto our shores. He was not a threat.
The assholes in Washington started this bloody ilegal war not our troops.
March 15th, 2006 at 9:16 pmI can’t believe how misrepresentative this is. Not only the obvious, but from 2004 to 2005, there was only 1 death difference in the numbers! That chart makes it look like there was a much larger difference in the number killed!
Insane.
March 15th, 2006 at 9:19 pmhttp://political.moveon.org/censure/ (click here if you haven’t signed moveon’s petition to support Feingold’s censure resolution)
March 15th, 2006 at 9:21 pmDude, come on! 50% of what you talk about has to do with being gay. What is it with you? What do you care if some guy is trying to get in another gay guys pants? As a heterosexual male, that last thing I want to know about is two dudes getting it on.
You really need to stop.
March 15th, 2006 at 9:27 pmWe blame Bush for not getting Osama bin Laden. Pat Garrett got Billy the Kid and Wyatt Erpe got the Dalton Gang. That’s what real cowboys do. Fake cowboys cut brush.
Once again, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
The Global War on Terror was started to get Osama. Not Saddam. That is NOT what the American people wanted after 9/11. We wanted revenge. Bush and friends wanted money and go it.
March 15th, 2006 at 9:30 pmI didn’t know Steve Case was a republican.
Being George Bush. Come climb through the office crawl space and see a world in which everyone is George Bush. Or just turn on the news.
March 15th, 2006 at 9:58 pmI may be mistaken on this, but I think that the casualty count only includes those who were killed “in combat”, with a few exceptions, but does not include those who later died from their injuries, or in surgery, or from “complications” etc. Were all of those people included in the tally, I think the true totals would be a tad bit higher. Maybe after all is said and done we will finally learn the truth, but not while Bushco is in charge.
March 15th, 2006 at 10:08 pm#I noticed that nobody wanted to claim this “intellectually honest†post. But, not to worry brave supporters of our men in uniform, I’m sure there will be some kind of left wing abetted slaughter of our boys in the coming weeks that will give you a nice big spike upward you can add to your graph.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — March 15, 2006 @ 5:05 pm
R you wouldn’t know left from right until you found that knotted rope inserted into your derrier. Then, hopefully, you will realize that the Rope is the Center. All other meaning of left and right, in reference to what you type, means nothing.
Have you even found the rope ‘R’ Brown I – I?
March 15th, 2006 at 10:15 pmGeeze, perhaps the person who compiled this idiocy actually has an IQ below W’s. Let’s see, 70 is idiot – W claims 91. If you are wondering, I scored 178, 181 and 167 in my last three tests, most recent to oldest. I do not fathom the 181 as the spread is such that you either get a 182 or a 178 in the rung where no questions or a single one is missed.
March 15th, 2006 at 10:56 pmPretty sad…
R2K
March 15th, 2006 at 11:10 pmHere we go. Let the journalistic witchhunts begin. PA prosecutor seizes four newspaper’s hard drives.
March 16th, 2006 at 12:06 amLook, when your target audience is 20-year-old high school drop-outs and the easily exciteable elderly who are afraid of technology, you have to target your news and information at at 6th grade reading level, just like Harlequin romance novels.
Realistically, as BushCo continue their downward decline into impeachment proceedings and prison sentences within the next 3 years, the complicit media have to do everything in their power to continue to prop up the figurehead and his venal handlers.
I expect the traditional media will get even more and more desperate and shrill in trying to apologize for BushCo. The lies and spin will get so hectic it will take twice as much time to keep up with the noise machine.
March 16th, 2006 at 12:14 amWe can chart fatalities; and we can chart wars…
Can we learn the art and science of charting peace?
Can peace be charted?
March 16th, 2006 at 12:47 amCan peace be charted?
Comment by Chuck Despres — March 16, 2006 @ 12:47 am
Yes , a chart showing the poorest amoung us rising in their standard of living as the death dollars of the department of defense are falling.
More money for schools especially the poorer ones less money for guns.
Health care for all before tanks for rummy, the peace can be charted but that is not the priority for Bushco.
March 16th, 2006 at 1:03 amIs Another 9/11 in the Works?
by Paul Craig Roberts
If you were President George W. Bush with all available US troops tied down by the Iraqi resistance, and you were unable to control Iraq or political developments in the country, would you also start a war with Iran?
Yes, you would.
Bush’s determination to spread Middle East conflict by striking at Iran does not make sense.
First of all, Bush lacks the troops to do the job. If the US military cannot successfully occupy Iraq, there is no way that the US can occupy Iran, a country approximately three times the size in area and population.
Second, Iran can respond to a conventional air attack with missiles targeted on American ships and bases, and on oil facilities located throughout the Middle East.
Third, Iran has human assets, including the Shi’ite majority population in Iraq, that it can activate to cause chaos throughout the Middle East.
Fourth, polls of US troops in Iraq indicate that a vast majority do not believe in their mission and wish to be withdrawn. Unlike the yellow ribbon folks at home, the troops are unlikely to be enthusiastic about being trapped in an Iranian quagmire in addition to the Iraqi quagmire.
Fifth, Bush’s polls are down to 34 percent, with a majority of Americans believing that Bush’s invasion of Iraq was a mistake.
If you were being whipped in one fight, would you start a second fight with a bigger and stronger person?
That’s what Bush is doing.
Opinion polls indicate that the Bush regime has succeeded in its plan to make Americans fear Iran as the greatest threat America faces.
The Bush regime has created a major dispute with Iran over that country’s nuclear energy program and then blocked every effort to bring the dispute to a peaceful end.
In order to gain a pretext for attacking Iran, the Bush regime is using bribery and coercion in its effort to have Iran referred to the UN Security Council for sanctions.
In recent statements President Bush and Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld blamed Iran for the Iraqi resistance, claiming that the roadside bombs used by the resistance are being supplied by Iran.
It is obvious that Bush intends to attack Iran and that he will use every means to bring war about.
Yet, Bush has no conventional means of waging war with Iran. His bloodthirsty neoconservatives have prepared plans for nuking Iran. However, an unprovoked nuclear attack on Iran would leave the US, already regarded as a pariah nation, totally isolated.
Readers, whose thinking runs ahead of that of most of us, tell me that another 9/11 event will prepare the ground for a nuclear attack on Iran. Some readers say that Bush, or Israel as in Israel’s highly provocative attack on the Jericho jail and kidnapping of prisoners with American complicity, will provoke a second attack on the US. Others say that Bush or the neoconservatives working with some “black ops” group will orchestrate the attack.
One of the more extraordinary suggestions is that a low yield, perhaps tactical, nuclear weapon will be exploded some distance out from a US port. Death and destruction will be minimized, but fear and hysteria will be maximized. Americans will be told that the ship bearing the weapon was discovered and intercepted just in time, thanks to Bush’s illegal spying program, and that Iran is to blame. A more powerful wave of fear and outrage will again bind the American people to Bush, and the US media will not report the rest of the world’s doubts of the explanation.
Reads like a Michael Crichton plot, doesn’t it?
Fantasy? Let’s hope so.
March 16th, 2006 at 7:33 amDoes anyone else get the impression that MKW (#95) is really a Republican??
Seriously! I believe he’s trying to make anyone who doesn’t automatically agree with Pres. Bush sound like the ultra-far-left lunatic fringe. In fact, s/he’s trying so hard to be as ultra-radically left that he’s gone off the map and actually supports the deaths of Americans!
Let’s all give MKW a round of applause for his absurd performance trying to be as crazy as s/he possibly can. You’re a great stool-pigeon for the Republican party MKW!!!!
March 16th, 2006 at 8:35 amMKW has changed approaches on this site either he either;
1.Sufferes from a serious mental or psychological disturbance
2. Is a paid troll and has no clue as how to properly do the job
3. Actually is 1Lt Brian M. Anderson moonlighting for the CIA(crazy in america)as a black opps stooge. And he is just about as effective as MKW as he is in his day job. Hell he will show up in cyber-drag next.
March 16th, 2006 at 9:43 amsays democratic soldier (paid in blood money) and cannot see what he is doing is fundamentally wrong
March 16th, 2006 at 9:44 amOnce again, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — March 15, 2006 @ 9:30 pm
How many times do you think you’ve said that to someone? I’m nearly convinced we’re in a living episode of the Twilight Zone…
March 16th, 2006 at 9:47 amMonkey Knut Wrench is the Farleft
Smedley is the Liberal
Tom the republican is the far right
I have 3 names
March 16th, 2006 at 9:47 amIran ready to talk to the US about Iraq
An Iranian official says Tehran is ready to open direct talks with the US over Iraq, marking a major shift in Iranian foreign policy a day after an Iraqi leader called for such talks.
I reported this news days ago to you all saying America is seeking Irana help with Iraq ,,John Snow BBC reporter admited on TV news he had seen the papers
March 16th, 2006 at 10:04 am#100 – Yeah, three names: Republican In Reality
Come on, expose yourself for what you truly are: ultra-radical wing-nut Neo-Con Republican Fascist.
Only ultra-radical wing-nut Neo-Con Republican Fascists want our soldiers to die needlessly, and you’ve stated quite eloquently on more than one occasion.
You’re trying to color yourself as “far left” in order to falsely portray anyone who doesn’t agree with Pres. Bush as a “fanaticâ€. It’s too bad for you that we’re on to your lame attempts to perpetrate mendacity of this nature. It’s not like this is the first time someone has tried this tactic on this site.
Money Knut Wrench = ultra-radical wing-nut Neo-Con Republican Fascist
March 16th, 2006 at 10:25 amAt least your exposed Democratic soldier (your the troll paid by the miliatry to pretend to be democratic when in fact we can see you still support that mass murdering petty thief Bush)
March 16th, 2006 at 10:43 amMonkey Knut Wrench is the Farleft
Smedley is the Liberal
Tom the republican is the far right
I have 3 names
Comment by Monkey Knut Wrench — March 16, 2006 @ 9:47 am
and the winner is………………………………………………………………,
MKW has changed approaches on this site either he either;
1.Sufferes from a serious mental or psychological disturbance
March 16th, 2006 at 10:49 am#103 – Huh???? How am I supporting Pres. Bush?
Could it be by my calling his “agenda” the “fiscally irresponsible” legacy?
Could it be my referring to his attacking Iraq as the “war for oil”?
Could it be that I DON’T want my fellow soldiers to continue to die in Iraq and Afghanistan from lack of personal body armor or improperly armored vehicles?
Could it be that I continue to converse with my friends who are still serving in the military?
Really, I want to know your rational for your calumny!
Trust me, I have far too may ethics and morals to be a neo-con Republican. Also, I don’t make enough money to be a neo-con Republican.
March 16th, 2006 at 10:50 amHow can a democratic soldier have ethics and morals ?
March 16th, 2006 at 12:03 pm#106 – Simple, by using his/her brains instead of just accepting the opinions of their leaders.
You know, like the current slate of neo-con talking-heads are doing with their followers by telling them what opinions to have and what standrds to hold.
It’s when you think for yourself that you start to see how anyone with too much power can affect the morals and ethics of their followers.
Case in point: Pres. Bush and the people who support him while ignoring his illegal activities and lies.
Question: why do you boycott American goods?
March 16th, 2006 at 1:58 pmI THINK MORE FOLKS ARE READY TO SUPPORT “NONVIOLENT DIRECT ACTION” TO BRING DOWN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION NOW.
THE ONLY WORRY THAT HOLDS SOME FOLKS BACK IS THE BELIEF THAT BUSH & CHENEY CO. PLANNED 9/11 AND HAVE NO COMPUNCTIONS ABOUT KILLING AMERICAN CITIZENS TO KEEP THEIR OLIGARCHIC JUNTA IN POWER.
March 16th, 2006 at 2:03 pmAOL Hired Cheney’s daughter a few months ago, and you know that wasn’t to answer phones.
March 16th, 2006 at 4:16 pmBTW, in the longer chart doesn’t it look like deaths diminish in winter (with variations) anyway?
March 16th, 2006 at 4:21 pmThis kind of error is usually described the first week in a stat class.
March 16th, 2006 at 5:04 pmThere is a huge movement of people boycotting American goods on ethical grounds
U.S. Businesses Overseas Threatened by Rising Anti-Americanism
WASHINGTON, D.C., Dec 29 (OneWorld) – The Bush administration’s foreign policy may be costing U.S. corporations business overseas–according to a new survey of 8,000 international consumers released this week by the Seattle-based Global Market Insite (GMI) Inc.
Brands closely identified with the U.S., such as Marlboro cigarettes, America Online (AOL), McDonald’s, American Airlines, and Exxon-Mobil are particularly at risk. GMI, an independent market research company, conducted the survey in eight countries December 10-12 with consumers over the internet.
One third of all consumers in Canada, China, France, Germany, Japan, Russia, and the United Kingdom said that U.S. foreign policy, particularly the “war on terror” and the occupation of Iraq, constituted their strongest impression of the United States.
Twenty percent of respondents in Europe and Canada said they consciously avoided buying U.S. products as a protest against those policies. That finding was consistent with a similar poll carried out by GMI three weeks after Bush’s November election victory.
“Unfortunately, current American foreign policy is viewed by international consumers as a significant negative, when it used to be a positive,” according to Dr. Mitchell Eggers, GMI’s chief operating officer and chief pollster.
“Some American brands become closely connected to their country of origin and are quintessentially American,” he added. “They represent the American lifestyle, innovation, power, leadership, and foreign policy.”
Whether the U.S. foreign policy under Bush is affecting the sales of U.S. corporations overseas is being hotly debated by advertising and public relations firms, as well as the companies themselves. Last month, Kevin Roberts, chief executive of advertising giant Saatchi & Saatchi, told the Financial Times that he believed consumers in Europe and Asia were becoming increasingly resistant to having “brand America rammed down their throats.”
Simon Anholt, author of ‘Brand America’ has also predicted a consumer backlash against U.S. foreign policy. He recently told the British trade magazine, ‘Marketing Week’, that four more years of Bush’s foreign policy could have grave consequences for U.S. companies’ international market share.
“There have already been casual protest brands, such as Mecca Cola, which are primarily political,” he told the weekly. “But things are now moving beyond that. For instances, German restaurants are beginning to refuse American Express cards. This is new territory.”
Other analysts have been skeptical, arguing that recent declines in sales in France and Germany by McDonald’s, Coca-Cola, and Marlboro were due far more to other factors, including flagging economies in both countries or a simple failure by companies to adapt rapidly enough to consumer tastes.
But the new survey, as well as the one taken by GMI last month, suggests that the unpopularity of U.S. foreign policy may indeed be playing a role, at least for companies that are either strongly identified with the United States or that are perceived as having similar characteristics as its foreign policy.
“American companies are accused of aggressiveness and arrogance because they insist on imposing the American way of doing things on their international markets; they are inflexible,” according to Allyson Stewart-Allen, co-author of ‘Working With Americans,’ a business best-seller published by Prentice Hall in 2002.
She argued that the more U.S. companies distance themselves from their U.S. identity, the better they will survive in the international marketplace. “U.S. companies abroad now need to focus on adding yet more value and repositioning their brands to consumers in the intensely competitive global village in which they compete”
“The more aligned they are with those customers–regardless of their U.S.-created DNA–they’ll win.” American companies need to focus on alignment with international markets and embrace their market differences and idiosyncrasies.
The survey cited 40 U.S.-based companies and asked consumers who said they were trying to avoid buying U.S. brands to rate each one of them by how closely they were identified with being “American,” and whether or not they deliberately avoided buying their products.
The survey then plotted each company’s position on a quadrant divided into “safe” and “insulated” squares at the bottom and “at risk” and “problem squares” at the top.
Those deemed “safe” or “insulated” generally were either not seen as particularly “American” (Visa, Kodak, Kleenex or Gillette), or they apparently lacked real competition (Microsoft, Heinz, and Disney).
Visa was the single best performer: only 17 percent of consumers identified as intending to avoid U.S. brands thought that it was “extremely American,” and only 15 percent said they intended to boycott it. Fifty-four percent said they had used Visa at least once in the previous month.
“Problem” companies, on the other hand, included those which more than a third of boycotting consumers said they intended to avoid, and more than 40 percent of consumers said they considered to be “extremely American.”
On that scale, Marlboro was found to be the most problematic. Sixty percent of respondents said they avoided the product, while two-thirds said they considered it to be “extremely American.” Only McDonald’s had a higher “American” score, at 73 percent, but only 42 percent of respondents said they avoided the Golden Arches.
In contrast to Visa’s performance, 48 percent of boycotting consumers said they would definitely avoid using American Express; 64 percent said they thought the company was “extremely American,” and only two percent reported using it during the previous month.
Other problem brands included Exxon-Mobil, AOL, American, Chevron Texaco, United Airlines, Budweiser, Chrysler, Barbie Doll, Starbucks, and General Motors.
The latest poll found that more than two thirds of European and Canadian consumers have had a negative change in their view of the United States as a result of U.S. foreign policy over the last three years. Nearly half believe that the war in Iraq was motivated by a desire to control oil supplies, while only 15 percent believed it was related to terrorism.
Nearly two thirds of European and Canadian consumers also said they believe U.S. foreign policy is guided primarily by self-interest and empire-building, while only 17 percent believe that the defense of freedom and democracy is its guiding principle.
Half of the entire sample said they distrusted U.S. companies, at least in part because of the U.S. foreign policy. Seventy-nine percent said they distrusted the U.S. government for the same reason, while 39 percent said they distrusted the American public.
Fully 87 percent of German, 84 percent of French, and 71 percent of British respondents have negative feelings toward Bush himself. Moreover, British, French and German consumers all felt that the cultural values of the other two countries were closer to their own than “American values.”
March 16th, 2006 at 5:08 pmMarch 18 is an international day of action against the occupation. Protests are already planned across the world, including in Iraq.
March 16th, 2006 at 5:27 pmMoreover, British, French and German consumers all felt that the cultural values of the other two countries were closer to their own than “American values.â€
Comment by Boycot American Goods
But of course, what could those dying cultures possibly have in common with America?
March 17th, 2006 at 10:39 amMoreover, British, French and German consumers all felt that the cultural values of the other two countries were closer to their own than “American values.â€
Comment by Boycot American Goods
These people would make bad Americans….
Dutch immigrants must watch racy film (BRUCE MUTSVAIRO, 3/15/06, ASSOCIATED PRESS)
The camera focuses on two gay men kissing in a park. Later, a topless woman emerges from the sea and walks onto a crowded beach. For would-be immigrants to the Netherlands, this film is a test of their readiness to participate in the liberal Dutch culture.
If they can’t stomach it, no need to apply.
Despite whether they find the film offensive, applicants must buy a copy and watch it if they hope to pass the Netherlands’ new entrance examination.
The test – the first of its kind in the world – became compulsory Wednesday, and was made available at 138 Dutch embassies.
Taking the exam costs $420. The price for a preparation package that includes the film, a CD ROM and a picture album of famous Dutch people is $75.
“As of today, immigrants wishing to settle in the Netherlands for, in particular, the purposes of marrying or forming a relationship will be required to take the civic integration examination abroad,” the Immigration Ministry said in a statement.
They’re certainly free to define themselves by disorder, but why would anyone root for them when the shooting starts?
March 17th, 2006 at 10:44 amOoops, another country that fails the “American Values Test”…What American really cares what they think?
Behind the baby gap lies a culture of contempt for parenthood: In a society that values consumption, choice and independence above all, it’s a wonder that we have as many babies as we do (Madeline Bunting, March 7, 2006, The Guardian)
A seven-month pregnant woman – her belly vast – was at a supper with a friend. He, being of the family type, told her she was very lucky to be expecting a baby. He was the first person who had said such a thing, she told him.
It’s a jarring anecdote because it so sharply puts into focus how pregnancy has become the occasion not for congratulations, but for anxious questions about childcare, leave and work. Watch how the announcement of a pregnancy among women is followed within minutes by the “What are you going to do?” question. We’ve replaced the age-old anxiety around life-threatening childbirth with a new – and sometimes it appears just as vast – cargo of anxiety around who is going to care.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329428399-103390,00.html
March 17th, 2006 at 10:46 amI-RIGHT-I
I would like you to shut your eyes and pretend your married to Claudia Schiffer and you have more money than you can spend – Now would you be typing all this nonsense – No you would not – therefore i can conclude you are a immature dilutional hypocrite who in life was so hard done when your mother confiscated your soother , you are dragging yourself into a hole you cannot or will not ever get out from – Your very similiar to George Bush – Please go into the toilets at your work with aggressive and proud and burp each others worms that way you might releave your stress – you mention gays all the time you remind me of the gay soldier in american beauty that could not communicate the fact he was gay like you – Monkey Knut wrench got you going the other day eh ?? taste of your own dilusional medicine
March 17th, 2006 at 6:18 pmI-RIGHT-I
I would like you to shut your eyes and pretend your married to Claudia Schiffer and you have more money than you can spend – Now would you be typing all this nonsense – No you would not
Comment by A Dark Germ
I don’t have to imagine it. My ex (the bitch) was every bit as lovely as Claudia and we both have money. Take it from me kiddo…the grass only looks greener from where you sit.
March 18th, 2006 at 3:05 pmI-Right-I, your use of the phrase “Bad Americans” is telling. I think you’re a bad American. You can’t let people be.
March 19th, 2006 at 12:40 amI called AOL and complained, the AOL Newsroom editors said the team in charge of this won’t modfiy the chart—even it is confusing.
Oh well, I guess they are “Never” wrong. At least this blog keeps them honest!
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Some of these are covered in this article from Ketema.net. 04-13-2006: DearAOL.com got their cottons all into a twist after their mass mailing hit AOL’s spam filters without even a bounce-back. More can be read here. 04-09-2006: According to Reuters, Time Warner settled for $2.65 million over charges that AOL over-stated revenue while the merger got underway. 04-04-2006: The ISP that is the Internet, America Online, now goes by the acronym AOL, according to BBC News. Check out America Offline and Netlingo.com, for reports of AOL’s success that differ starkly from CEO Jon Miller’s. 03-15-2006: From thinkprogress.org: AOL falsely suggests US casualties in Iraq decreased drastically in 2006; see chart. 03-08-2006: AOL’s raising the monthly dial-up rate from $23.90 to $25.90, the same price as “AOL’s Portal for Broadband” on March 9th. Click InsignificantThoughts.com: Now That Takes Balls to learn more. 03-02-2006: According to this article from TheRegister.co.UK, AOL’s charging for guaranteed delivery of bulk email and the promise that links and HTML won’t be stripped, which is AOL’s way of dealing with suspected spam. Read this article from Postmaster at AOL.com: Certified Email from Goodmail for details. If having to pay to send AOL members email disagrees with you, sign this letter: Dear Aol.com: No Email Tax. I signed it (not that anyone at AOL cares). 1-06-2006: This article from the TheRegister.co.UK details AOL’s settlement with the state of Illinois for up to $25 million for nauthorized credit card charges. 03-11-2006 Note: I originally linked to SmartMoney.com for the story but judging from this Google Search page, AOL might have say over Smart Money’s content; they recently deleted the article. 08-24-2005: According to this article from zdnet.com, AOL settled with Ohio and New York for making it too hard to cancel. 12-17-2004: According to the Washington Post AOL settled for at least $510 million to make their big accounting scandal go away (click this WashingtonPost.com article on December 17, 2004 for more on that). A December, 2004 article at CBSNews.com details a settlement as high as $750 million. 2001-2006: News on AOL’s censorship can be found at: ComputerGripes.com: AOL Censorship. The author doesn’t update pages in chronological order; if you don’t mind all the digging, it’s a treasure trove of America Online AOL info. 05-28-1998: According to this story from News.com AOL paid $1.25 million in 1998 to settle a class-action involving 44 states because it was (and still is) so hard to cancel. Reviews of AOL’s Software and Services: ReviewCentre.com: AOL Broadband Review. AOL’s $15.90 a month BYOA (bring-your-own-access) is exactly the same as the full-fledged $25.90 a month “Broadband” offering. AOL doesn’t let you surf the Web and they don’t own high-speed cable lines. You simply layer AOL’s portal over your cable connection–and pay $25.90 a month while AOL serves you the day old caches they feel are best. This March 04, 2006 article at Detnews.com (”Why the Confusion?”) further explains AOL’s services. Epinions.com: Review of AOL 9.0. AOL’s stale content for narrowband, complete with busy signals, time-outs, email blocks, and the inability to cancel. Download.com: Reader Reviews of America Online version 9.0, updated for 2006. More of the same. Opinions About AOL’s Services: Maroon.uchicago.edu: AOL-speak is destroying the language. r u lissn? roflmao!1!!1!! TechSupportGuy.org: Why You Hate AOL. 26 pages of news and opinions (at last count) about AOL from the best source out there, former subscribers. DavidKnighton.com: AOL Can Bite My Ass. I would’ve put this link here for the title alone but it’s a good article, too. BabeOnHarleyDavidson.com: AOL Sucks. An intelligent article from a Harley Babe. CybersauratSBCGlobal.net: AOL Sucks. An in-depth, well-written overview of AOL. Other Voices on How Hard It Is to Cancel AOL: Hogg’sBlog at RadioWeblogs.com: Cancelling AOL. Click Readers Comments link at the bottom of page for more AOL cancellation stories…including, yes, my own. Ed Foster’s Gripelog at Gripe2Ed.com: It’s Hard to Say Goodbye to AOL. Click “Reader’s Voices: Cancellations” for more true stories. 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July 1st, 2006 at 11:50 pm[...] Recent News: 06-07-2006: AOL has run banner ads at the bottom of subscriber’s inboxes for years. Now they’re placing ads on every piece of email in their subscriber’s inboxes, who are threatening to cancel their accounts in droves (to judge by their blogs and forum discussions) over this most unwelcome intrusion. Techdirt has the latest scoop. 05-09-2006: AOL closed the Jacksonville, FL call center and laid off 1,300 workers. All 1,300 articles I read about this quote an AOL spokesman as saying their membership is “too tech savvy” to need call centers anymore. Funniest quote of 2006, and it’s only May. This article about it is from the BBC News. 04-20-2006: AOL to launch MySpace Killer. More details courtesy of Techcrunch.com. Before they do I think they need to launch AIM-Browser-Killer. AIM has great features (for a free chat client) but has problems that made me uninstall it pretty quickly. Some of these are covered in this article from Ketema.net. 04-13-2006: DearAOL.com got their cottons all into a twist after their mass mailing hit AOL’s spam filters without even a bounce-back. More can be read here. 04-09-2006: According to Reuters, Time Warner settled for $2.65 million over charges that AOL over-stated revenue while the merger got underway. 04-04-2006: The ISP that is the Internet, America Online, now goes by the acronym AOL, according to BBC News. Check out America Offline and Netlingo.com, for reports of AOL’s success that differ starkly from CEO Jon Miller’s. 03-15-2006: From thinkprogress.org: AOL falsely suggests US casualties in Iraq decreased drastically in 2006; see chart. 03-08-2006: AOL’s raising the monthly dial-up rate from $23.90 to $25.90, the same price as “AOL’s Portal for Broadband” on March 9th. Click InsignificantThoughts.com: Now That Takes Balls to learn more. 03-02-2006: According to this article from TheRegister.co.UK, AOL’s charging for guaranteed delivery of bulk email and the promise that links and HTML won’t be stripped, which is AOL’s way of dealing with suspected spam. Read this article from Postmaster at AOL.com: Certified Email from Goodmail for details. If having to pay to send AOL members email disagrees with you, sign this letter: Dear Aol.com: No Email Tax. I signed it (not that anyone at AOL cares). 1-06-2006: This article from the TheRegister.co.UK details AOL’s settlement with the state of Illinois for up to $25 million for nauthorized credit card charges. 03-11-2006 Note: I originally linked to SmartMoney.com for the story but judging from this Google Search page, AOL might have say over Smart Money’s content; they recently deleted the article. 08-24-2005: According to this article from zdnet.com, AOL settled with Ohio and New York for making it too hard to cancel. 12-17-2004: According to the Washington Post AOL settled for at least $510 million to make their big accounting scandal go away (click this WashingtonPost.com article on December 17, 2004 for more on that). A December, 2004 article at CBSNews.com details a settlement as high as $750 million. 2001-2006: News on AOL’s censorship can be found at: ComputerGripes.com: AOL Censorship. The author doesn’t update pages in chronological order; if you don’t mind all the digging, it’s a treasure trove of America Online AOL info. 05-28-1998: According to this story from News.com AOL paid $1.25 million in 1998 to settle a class-action involving 44 states because it was (and still is) so hard to cancel. Reviews of AOL’s Software and Services: ReviewCentre.com: AOL Broadband Review. AOL’s $15.90 a month BYOA (bring-your-own-access) is exactly the same as the full-fledged $25.90 a month “Broadband” offering. AOL doesn’t let you surf the Web and they don’t own high-speed cable lines. You simply layer AOL’s portal over your cable connection–and pay $25.90 a month while AOL serves you the day old caches they feel are best. This March 04, 2006 article at Detnews.com (”Why the Confusion?”) further explains AOL’s services. Epinions.com: Review of AOL 9.0. AOL’s stale content for narrowband, complete with busy signals, time-outs, email blocks, and the inability to cancel. Download.com: Reader Reviews of America Online version 9.0, updated for 2006. More of the same. Opinions About AOL’s Services: Maroon.uchicago.edu: AOL-speak is destroying the language. r u lissn? roflmao!1!!1!! TechSupportGuy.org: Why You Hate AOL. 26 pages of news and opinions (at last count) about AOL from the best source out there, former subscribers. DavidKnighton.com: AOL Can Bite My Ass. I would’ve put this link here for the title alone but it’s a good article, too. BabeOnHarleyDavidson.com: AOL Sucks. An intelligent article from a Harley Babe. CybersauratSBCGlobal.net: AOL Sucks. An in-depth, well-written overview of AOL. Other Voices on How Hard It Is to Cancel AOL: Hogg’sBlog at RadioWeblogs.com: Cancelling AOL. Click Readers Comments link at the bottom of page for more AOL cancellation stories…including, yes, my own. Ed Foster’s Gripelog at Gripe2Ed.com: It’s Hard to Say Goodbye to AOL. Click “Reader’s Voices: Cancellations” for more true stories. UtterlyBoring.com: Cancelling AOL Isn’t Easy. FrontCourt.com: How To Cancel AOL. Scroll down and read User Comments to Juno’s and NetZero’s perky contention that it’s so “easy” to cancel AOL. Humor About AOL: Urban Dictionary. 136 definitions of AOL. Help! AOL Deleted Our Entire Site! While you’re there see this page for an index of what was deleted. GlossyNews.com: AOL to Remove “AOL” from It’s Own Name. WatleyReview.com: AOL Admits 40% of Customers Don’t Own Computers. Steve Case bans the period (.) from his entire site lol. BikePainter.com: AOL Humor. This site has it all: poetry, graphics, lots of laughs. Attrition.org: Please Cancel Me. Hilarious. [...]
July 1st, 2006 at 11:53 pm[...] Recent News: 06-07-2006: AOL has run banner ads at the bottom of subscriber’s inboxes for years. Now they’re placing ads on every piece of email in their subscriber’s inboxes, who are threatening to cancel their accounts in droves (to judge by their blogs and forum discussions) over this most unwelcome intrusion. Techdirt has the latest scoop. 05-09-2006: AOL closed the Jacksonville, FL call center and laid off 1,300 workers. All 1,300 articles I read about this quote an AOL spokesman as saying their membership is “too tech savvy” to need call centers anymore. Funniest quote of 2006, and it’s only May. This article about it is from the BBC News. 04-20-2006: AOL to launch MySpace Killer. More details courtesy of Techcrunch.com. Before they do I think they need to launch AIM-Browser-Killer. AIM has great features (for a free chat client) but has problems that made me uninstall it pretty quickly. Some of these are covered in this article from Ketema.net. 04-13-2006: DearAOL.com got their cottons all into a twist after their mass mailing hit AOL’s spam filters without even a bounce-back. More can be read here. 04-09-2006: According to Reuters, Time Warner settled for $2.65 million over charges that AOL over-stated revenue while the merger got underway. 04-04-2006: The ISP that is the Internet, America Online, now goes by the acronym AOL, according to BBC News. Check out America Offline and Netlingo.com, for reports of AOL’s success that differ starkly from CEO Jon Miller’s. 03-15-2006: From thinkprogress.org: AOL falsely suggests US casualties in Iraq decreased drastically in 2006; see chart. 03-08-2006: AOL’s raising the monthly dial-up rate from $23.90 to $25.90, the same price as “AOL’s Portal for Broadband” on March 9th. Click InsignificantThoughts.com: Now That Takes Balls to learn more. 03-02-2006: According to this article from TheRegister.co.UK, AOL’s charging for guaranteed delivery of bulk email and the promise that links and HTML won’t be stripped, which is AOL’s way of dealing with suspected spam. Read this article from Postmaster at AOL.com: Certified Email from Goodmail for details. If having to pay to send AOL members email disagrees with you, sign this letter: Dear Aol.com: No Email Tax. I signed it (not that anyone at AOL cares). 1-06-2006: This article from the TheRegister.co.UK details AOL’s settlement with the state of Illinois for up to $25 million for nauthorized credit card charges. 03-11-2006 Note: I originally linked to SmartMoney.com for the story but judging from this Google Search page, AOL might have say over Smart Money’s content; they recently deleted the article. 08-24-2005: According to this article from zdnet.com, AOL settled with Ohio and New York for making it too hard to cancel. 12-17-2004: According to the Washington Post AOL settled for at least $510 million to make their big accounting scandal go away (click this WashingtonPost.com article on December 17, 2004 for more on that). A December, 2004 article at CBSNews.com details a settlement as high as $750 million. 2001-2006: News on AOL’s censorship can be found at: ComputerGripes.com: AOL Censorship. The author doesn’t update pages in chronological order; if you don’t mind all the digging, it’s a treasure trove of America Online AOL info. 05-28-1998: According to this story from News.com AOL paid $1.25 million in 1998 to settle a class-action involving 44 states because it was (and still is) so hard to cancel. Reviews of AOL’s Software and Services: ReviewCentre.com: AOL Broadband Review. AOL’s $15.90 a month BYOA (bring-your-own-access) is exactly the same as the full-fledged $25.90 a month “Broadband” offering. AOL doesn’t let you surf the Web and they don’t own high-speed cable lines. You simply layer AOL’s portal over your cable connection–and pay $25.90 a month while AOL serves you the day old caches they feel are best. This March 04, 2006 article at Detnews.com (”Why the Confusion?”) further explains AOL’s services. Epinions.com: Review of AOL 9.0. AOL’s stale content for narrowband, complete with busy signals, time-outs, email blocks, and the inability to cancel. Download.com: Reader Reviews of America Online version 9.0, updated for 2006. More of the same. Opinions About AOL’s Services: Maroon.uchicago.edu: AOL-speak is destroying the language. r u lissn? roflmao!1!!1!! TechSupportGuy.org: Why You Hate AOL. 26 pages of news and opinions (at last count) about AOL from the best source out there, former subscribers. DavidKnighton.com: AOL Can Bite My Ass. I would’ve put this link here for the title alone but it’s a good article, too. BabeOnHarleyDavidson.com: AOL Sucks. An intelligent article from a Harley Babe. CybersauratSBCGlobal.net: AOL Sucks. An in-depth, well-written overview of AOL. Other Voices on How Hard It Is to Cancel AOL: Hogg’sBlog at RadioWeblogs.com: Cancelling AOL. Click Readers Comments link at the bottom of page for more AOL cancellation stories…including, yes, my own. Ed Foster’s Gripelog at Gripe2Ed.com: It’s Hard to Say Goodbye to AOL. Click “Reader’s Voices: Cancellations” for more true stories. UtterlyBoring.com: Cancelling AOL Isn’t Easy. FrontCourt.com: How To Cancel AOL. Scroll down and read User Comments to Juno’s and NetZero’s perky contention that it’s so “easy” to cancel AOL. Humor About AOL: Urban Dictionary. 136 definitions of AOL. Help! AOL Deleted Our Entire Site! While you’re there see this page for an index of what was deleted. GlossyNews.com: AOL to Remove “AOL” from It’s Own Name. WatleyReview.com: AOL Admits 40% of Customers Don’t Own Computers. Steve Case bans the period (.) from his entire site lol. BikePainter.com: AOL Humor. This site has it all: poetry, graphics, lots of laughs. Attrition.org: Please Cancel Me. Hilarious. [...]
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