First, Sen. Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI). From the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, offered some praise for Feingold, saying the resolution would be “positive” if it fueled debate over the legality of some policies in the war on terrorism.
Also, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA), who said he would vote for censure. From the Washington Post:
“The president broke the law and he needs to be held accountable,” [Harkin] said. “Talk about high crimes and misdemeanors!” Harkin said he’ll vote for the Feingold resolution — if it comes up.
Nevertheless, the AP reports “not a single Democrat has embraced” Feingold’s censure resolution.
UPDATE: Sen. Harkin is now the first official co-sponsor of Feingold’s resolution:
In a brief interview, Harkin said, “I think it makes sense. … Quite frankly, I think we ought to have a full-fledged debate on this.” …
Feingold said that even though support for his resolution is low so far, he believes he is already meeting his goal of reopening the debate on the matter.
“I’ve achieved what I wanted to achieve,†Feingold said, adding that he still hopes his resolution will pass. “I’m very pleased with what has happened.â€
Yes, Yes, Yes!!! The people got pissed off and you guys grew some ears!!! Go get ‘em Russ!!
Feingold ‘08
March 15th, 2006 at 12:47 pmSomeone is finally getting it.
As the article posted says, “The president broke the law and he needs to be held accountable,†[Harkin] said. “Talk about high crimes and misdemeanors!†Harkin said he’ll vote for the Feingold resolution…
Indeed. The President broke the law. Period.
Now, let’s talk impeachment and jail time.
March 15th, 2006 at 12:49 pmIT’S UP TO SENATE DEMOCRATS TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, and not up to the AP to speak for them.
And as far as I’m concerned, Sen. Lincoln Chaffee of Rhode Island is a better friend to the American People, and a better foe to a corrupt and lying Administration and Congressional majority, than almost all of the members of the Senate’s minority (Sen. Feingold excluded).
March 15th, 2006 at 12:49 pmToo bad we can’t give him a vote as citizens, since our elected officials seem to be having trouble seeing the right thing to do.
March 15th, 2006 at 12:49 pmGo, RUSS, Go!!! Two more Dems have joined Feingold - the principled RINO Lincoln Chafee and the dependable Dem Sen. Harkin. The movement is picking up steam!!!
March 15th, 2006 at 12:55 pmThe movement is picking up steam!!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite — March 15, 2006 @ 12:55 pm
Yes dumb a$$ I’d say with 60% disapproval rating the steam is there…
March 15th, 2006 at 12:58 pmI expect to see a headline from AP like this:
“Bipartisan Group of Senators Favor Censure”.
Think we’ll get this from the “liberal media”?
March 15th, 2006 at 1:01 pmAND FURTHERMORE REGARDING Sen. Chaffee of Rhode Island:
He is the only, THE ONLY, Republican Senator to vote against authorizing the Administration to use the U.S. Armed Forces aginst the phony ‘threat’ that they made Iraq out to be.
He was THE ONLY Republican Senator to vote NO on H.J.Res.114.
And I’m sure he is, at this stage, quite Proud that he did so.
As for the 29 Senate Democrats who vote yes to authorizing the President to use the U.S. Armed Forces aginst the phony ‘threat’ that he made Iraq out to be, who knows (or even cares) how they feel about that, at this stage.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:02 pmM.A., Usually, I would think of what you said as supportive, but knowing you, I’ll take it as lower form of sarcasm.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:02 pmI understand Barbara Boxer is also backing censure now.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:08 pmwrite, call email your senator and let them know you support this! emaill the dnc, dlc, and everyone you know to help these guys out. i just wrote a scathing note to the dlc and asked wtf are they doing? now go out there and get ‘em!!! at least you’ll feel better……
March 15th, 2006 at 1:08 pmGo, RUSS, Go!!! Two more Dems have joined Feingold - the principled RINO Lincoln Chafee and the dependable Dem Sen. Harkin. The movement is picking up steam!!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Hey, Sugar, it’s me, Joe. Glad to see you still around. I’m with you here, rubbing it in on the lefties.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but do you suppose that the reason the censure resolution is toast is because the smart democrats want to beat the Repugs over the head with the illegal wiretap issue all the way up to the November elections? Ya think, maybe? Huh? Maybe? I mean, I like you, girl, but don’t be the dumb a$$ clif in #6 makes you out to be.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:10 pmJoe she can’t help herself, shge does it on a daily basis here….
March 15th, 2006 at 1:13 pmJimBOB - Why a “lower form of sarcasm”? I realize the disappointment many progs must be feeling - to pin so many hopes and dreams on “sham” Dems is disconcerting. Remember, though, the Dem primary will be aimed at the prog wing of the Dems - Feingold will have a chance to shine in the primaries - he seems to be a guy with his “eye on the ball” and won’t blow a sensational advantage the way the “primal screamer” Howard Dean did.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:14 pmi just called boxer’s l.a. office (10 am pst) and she will be supporting feingold’s resolution…feinsteins not sure yet.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:14 pmWould a censure at this point really be a problem? Iwould think that it is a good idea. We don’t have the votes for impeachment (until after November!), so why not do what we can now? The crime has been committed. It needs to be on the record.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:19 pmI would also have a hard time voting again for any Dem that did ot support this, what do they think they are doing by laying low? Write and call and email all your representatives, they need a kick in the behind.
Saddam on trial for 140 deaths.Bush responsible for maybe 200,000.Maybe the wrong person is on trial.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:20 pm#10 - of course Boxer is. She is one of the biggest (and lying) partisans in the senate. Feingold is NOT which is why it’s such ashame he would push for Bush’s censure. It’s unconstitutional and designed to incite more partisan hatred in this country.
AND we all know the left always chokes on their own hatred. The GOP is divided right now on many important issues. AN attempt to overturn two elections and impeach Bush would ignite a right-wing revolt you have not seen in years. It will get ugly and we will win. TRUST ME.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:23 pm“…won’t blow a sensational advantage the way the “primal screamer†Howard Dean did.”
Dean didn’t “blow” anything- FAUX swiftboated him by playing that clip OVER AND OVER AND OVER, like it EVER actually meant anything. So the guy got excited, so freaking WHAT. Like the Shrub doesn’t say amazingly DUMB SH*T every single freaking DAY. But you’ll never see THOSE clips on FAUX, will we. The GOP saw Dean for the HUGE threat that he was, so, they issued the Orders to the GOP Propoganda Arm- they were was bound and determined to scuttle his boat and they sho’ ’nuff did. Don’t be a dumba$$.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:23 pm#12 - “Correct me if I’m wrong, but do you suppose that the reason the censure resolution is toast is because the smart democrats want to beat the Repugs over the head with the illegal wiretap issue all the way up to the November elections?”
March 15th, 2006 at 1:23 pm*****Joe, I think the rotgut you’ve been brewing out behind the outhouse has finally taken it’s toll - a severe case of “wet brain”. Let the Dems slap their hairless chests about the NSA wiretaps (those pesky feds wanting to intercept conversations with terror sympathizers, relatives etc, and their co-conspirators overseas - damn!) AND CALL for censure. For true Dem believers, I think the winning issue to sway moderate Americans is the COMBINATION AND LINKING of both issues. Afterall, Dems think most Americans are stupid, so a little reiteration might be just what the doctor (Dean) ordered!!!
“TRUST ME.”
No, I don’t think I will, thanks. Trusting you assholes is why we’re all in the ugly pickle we’re in now.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:25 pmSent the following yesterday. Left similar message with local state Demorctratic Executive Director this morning:
To: Senator Ron Wyden, Senator Harry Reid, Senator John Kerry, Senator Edward Kennedy, Senator Tom Harkin, Senator Barbara Boxer, Senator Jack Reed, Senator Robert Byrd, Senator Patrick Leahy, Senator Joseph Biden
Gentlemen and Lady:
I am writing to all of you to express my complete disappointment, outrage, and unfettered frustration with the Democratic Party and particularly the Senate Democrats in not standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Senator Feingold and the censure resolution he has introduced. Some of you are included because you are the so-called leaders and sought after spokespersons for the Party. Others are included because you are on the record (Ed Schultz show interview) stating your opinion and belief that the President broke the law when he bypassed the FISA court and authorized wire-tapping US citizens. Finally, Senator Wyden, you are included because you are my Senator.
I ask each and every one you to respond to the following questions:
1. Where is your moral courage? You can talk-the-talk, but when it comes to meaningful action you run for political cover, more worried about your own political career instead of the oath you took to protect and defend the constitution. Both the moderate and extreme branches of the Party will support the censure resolution. Most of us understand that impeachment is not in the cards until the Democrats again have a majority in Congress, but both factions desperately want to see the Party show some backbone and courage.
2. If the Democrats cannot unite on this issue what issue can they ever unite on? And I am sorry, but criticizing the President does not count. That action is a given. Your approval ratings as members of Congress are as dismal as the President and your Republican counterparts. Right now, most people who will vote Democratic will do so because it is the lesser of two evils, not because they are enamoured with any Democratic vision (there isn’t one).
3. How is the Democratic Party currently any different than the Republican Party? You certainly don’t seem to understand the world outside the Beltway. What an opportunity you had to distinguish yourself as the party willing to embrace real change by throwing the party muscle behind the candidacy of Paul Hackett. Instead you turn it into a credibility destroying fiasco. The Democratic Party’s incompetence is only exceeded by that of the President and your Republican colleagues.
You have within you the collective power to change course and support Senator Feingold. All it takes is a meeting of the minds and some courage. Show some for a change. Until you do, I will not donate another dime to the Democratic Party.
CC: Senator Russell Feingold
March 15th, 2006 at 1:26 pmEd Schultz
#19 - Dean is an unstable lunatic. AND in America, we have freedom of speech and I will use that to remind voters over and over as to what a lunatic Dean and his supporters are. No swiftboating, just Dean’s own words.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:27 pmKeep bugging your Senators!! Email, Call!!! Force them to speak out in support of Feingold!!!
March 15th, 2006 at 1:27 pmAs Will Rogers used to say, “I am not a member of any organized party, I’m a Democrat”.
Well time to get organized. By the way FEINGOLD FOR PRESIDENT!
March 15th, 2006 at 1:28 pm#21 - don’t say I didn’t warn you when we wipe the floor with your ass come fall….again. The right is ready to hit back and we will be hitting hard against those who side with America’s enemies fro political gain.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:28 pmHey people, I propose Gore/Feingold 08 running as Independents. What do ya say??
March 15th, 2006 at 1:28 pm#27 - as a Republican, I totally agree.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:29 pmNo swiftboating, just Dean’s own words.
Sorry, which words did Mr. Dean say that were a problem?
March 15th, 2006 at 1:30 pm#19 - Dear Comrade J, How did a lowly little cable station hold such sway as to torpedo the good Doctor??? Dean, in all his “excitement” gave the Repubs they fodder they needed — and run with it they did. But you must admit it’s amazing that GWB overcame the bulls eye placed on his campaign by CBS - don’t many more people tune in to CBS than FOX??
March 15th, 2006 at 1:30 pm#27, if Feingold dropped out of the party NOW, while the iron is hot, I can imagine the netroots following him in droves. Then we’d REALLY get a sense of how important the netroots are in this nation, one way or the other.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:31 pm#17 - Saddam on trial for 140 deaths. Bush [is] responsible for maybe 200,000. Maybe the wrong person is on trial.
Well, do you think so? Why YES! the wrong person is on trial.
The ReichWingNuts have nothing at this point. Nothing at all to offer this nation, execept fear and spying and greed and lack of building support for New Orleans. That’s the party in power. They are responsible for this mess.
We need more Dems to support Conyers and Feingold.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:31 pm#29 “YEARRRRRRRRGH!!!!” was the one that did him in, but the list of his insanity is endless. The guy was a gift to the GOP - he has foot in mouth disease.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:31 pmPeople don’t listen to “Liberals Heart Stalin”. He obviosly has no life because I’ve seen him a few times now on this blog just trying to pick a fight. His obsurd comments speak for themselves. There is no need to respond to them.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:32 pm“#19 - Dean is an unstable lunatic.”
You must be thinking about your Heros the Shrub and the Dick. You know, the ones that invaded a country that had NOTHING to do with attacking us and wasn’t a threat. Where ARE those pesky WMDs, anyway? Obviously we know they’re not under Shrubbie’s desk, hahaha. That was just SO funny. It’s great when you can laugh about murdering tens of thousands of innocents, not to mention your own soliders, all based on lies.
Yup, DEAN’S the “lunatic” all right.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:32 pm“execept fear and spying and greed ”
Democrats have nothing, but fear and greed. Spying would imply they were tough on terror and they are not.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:32 pmliberals ——-.
guy, you must be getting so booted every day. I say that because every day you’re back here with a new logon and insipid comments.
Grow a brain jackass. Then you might get a clue.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pm#23 - Bush is an unstable lunatic. In America, we have freedom of speech and I will use that to remind voters over and over what a bunch of lunatics the Bush Cabal is. No swiftboating, just Bush’s own words.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pm>>>>
Too bad we can’t give him a vote as citizens, since our elected officials seem to be having trouble seeing the right thing to do.
by SKdeA
>>>>>>>>>
I’m sure they already know “…the right thing to do.” The only “trouble” they’re having is DOING IT. Hurray for Tom Harkin….now what about the rest of these people who seem perfectly willing to hang Feingold out to dry?! IF ONLY we had a genuine “Opposition Party” instead of a party of aiders and abettors. IF ONLY we the people have the good sense not to become ENABLERS ourselves by re-electing some of these ‘leaders’ whose only concern is their own careers. It’s time they all woke up and smelled the Tar & Feathers.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pmFEINGOLD IS LEADING! That is something “the Beltway Dems” are not capable of doing, and now it seems that they are also so afraid of the Bush fasacist machine that they will not follow, either!
March 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pmSo, OKAY, ALREADY! Just let “them” get the HELL OUT OF THE WAY, AND TAKE “THEIR” DNC, “THEIR” DCCC AND THE REST OF “THEIR” WIMPS WITH THEM….
I’m gonna go with Feingold as far as he is willing to go….and I AM NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT!
#35 - yawn. It was people like you who enabled Stalin so why would you be for ridding of Hussein or any vicious dictator for that matter.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:34 pmDemocrats have nothing, but fear and greed.
Fear of what? As for greed, could you remind me how many Democrats vs. how many Republicans are currently under indictment for money laundering and/or conspiracy?
March 15th, 2006 at 1:34 pmIs it beyond the realm of possibility that the Neocons have been using their political clout and illegal wiretapping not to pry into the lives of ordinary citizens, but to get dirt on the members of Congress, so as to blackmail them into submission? Think about it…
March 15th, 2006 at 1:35 pm#38 - sure, whatever. 51% of the voting public disagrees with you. Sure can’t say that about Howard Dean.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:35 pm#29 “YEARRRRRRRRGH!!!!†was the one that did him in,
Why is that a problem?
March 15th, 2006 at 1:36 pm#42 - Debbie Stabenow sure used fear on the senate floor last night. The left capitalized on fear with the Dubai deal (even though the leading opponents husband and former President was making $$ off of Dubai).
The left’s platform is fear. Fear of your own country, govt and political adversaries. You have no ideas, just hate and fear.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:37 pm#26,
Funny, isn’t it how YOU sound way more like Joseph Stalin. I wonder why that is?
Please let me know so that we can engage in friendly dialogue on this topic.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:37 pm#38 - sure, whatever. 51% of the voting public disagrees with you.
Or at least they disagreed back in November 2004.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:37 pm“blow a sensational advantage the way the “primal screamer†Howard Dean did.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — March 15, 2006 @ 1:14 pm”
“Dean is an unstable lunatic. . . .
Comment by Liberals Heart Stalin — March 15, 2006 @ 1:27 pm”
LOL Dean was at a freaking RALLY, and by playing the same clip over and over and over and over the “liberal media” transformed him into a screamer and a lunatic.
You conservatives are liars. I’ll say it again. You are liars. You are not Christians, that’s for sure, and you’re too stupid to see that the bonehead you worship more than Christ himself is causing everlasting damage to America at home and abroad.
As for Dean, I wouldn’t trust any statement he supposedly made in the media unless I saw the entire statement in context. Every time I have seen him, he has been articulate, intelligent, and cogent. When I realize he could have been President instead of Bush, it makes me very sad tht America has become a nation basically out of its mind.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:38 pm#47 - please. If the left had their way on international affairs, people like Stalin would be in power. Stop projecting.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:39 pmFor true Dem believers, I think the winning issue to sway moderate Americans is the COMBINATION AND LINKING of both issues. Afterall, Dems think most Americans are stupid, so a little reiteration might be just what the doctor (Dean) ordered!!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite
aphrodite, honey, I like that take. Especially the swaying of moderate Americans when linking issues.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but kinda like the way they have finally linked WMD’s to junior’s Iraqi war rhetoric. Hey. That shot at Dr. Dean was pretty good. I don’t like doctor’s too much. Every since that republican, Dr. Frist, claimed that Terry Schiavo’s brain dead condition could be reversed. Remember that one? What a total dipshit, huh? And all of Terry’s brain-dead supporters, too.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:39 pm#47 - you obviously had no problem with what Sadam did either. Torture rooms, gassing your own - all par for the course.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:40 pm“It was people like you who enabled Stalin so why would you be for ridding of Hussein or any vicious dictator for that matter.”
Oh yes, that’s me, an Evul Commie!! You people are SO TIRESOME. So, you’re parroting the reason of the week for the invasion- ‘cuz Saddam was a BAD MAN. Huh, funny- he wasn’t a BAD MAN when Rummy was shaking his hand and providing poison gas to kill his fellow Iraqis with, now was he? Of course, you lack the BRAIN to consider this total hypocrisy. You just parrot whatever the GOP tell you to, like a good brownshirt. Got your lyrics to “Duetschland uber alles” all ready to go, do you? People like YOU enabled Hitler.
Actually, I AM in favor of ridding the World of OUR “vicious dictator”, for sure.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:42 pm#47, in re: your
“Fear of your own country,”
Wrong - simply justified fear of those who have repeatedly abused the country for their own gain and who — with the help of simpleminded folks like yourself — have enough power to fulfill their every twisted little Slim-Jim of a whim.
“govt”
Wrong - simply the abuse of same - see above.
“and political adversaries.”
Mostly wrong. It depends on whether you mean powerless, idea-less slobs like yourself (for whom I feel no fear whatsoever) or power-mad, idea-less slobs like the slob that powerless, idea-less slobs like yourself elected. I do fear idiots who have been granted power. Seems prudent to me.
In short, you are pretty much wrong.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:42 pmJoe Sixpack - of course, bring up Terri. You already murdered her agaisnt her family’s wishes so I think scoring points is a little crude.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:42 pm#31 You better believe it’s true, that the stomach-revolting failure of the minority party to hear and represent the American People at this time, is making this time ripe for a migration in droves to a third party candidate.
And while that candidate could never purchase the 30 minute blocks of air time that the last third party candidate did (for corporate media reasons known to most here), who would care?
The internet itself has become a better medium than was ever those UHF stations on which the former third party candidate pitched his 30 minute messages.
The time is ripe, and despite all the nonsense that would keep a third party candidate off the ballot in many states (again, nonsense dreamed up in horrified response to the last third party candidate’s 20% nationwide success), who would care to that nonsense either?
Bring a pencil to the polling station; insist on writing in the entire name of your candidate, despite their name not appearing on the ballot given you.
It’s a right, and it’s the law.
And it could happen.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:43 pm#41 - It was people like you who enabled Bush to send my son to Iraq for one and a half years to protect the oil that you put in your vehicle, so why wouldn’t you be for ridding of Hussein or any vicious dictator for that matter, as long as you can have what you want and “get your way”.
It’s people like you who hate. You hate “liberals” (even though it is they who gave you the five day work week and health care). You hate Islam (even though you don’t know the first thing about it). You hate Hillary (even though she might, just might, have your best interests in mind). You hate Bill (because he “got some” and you can’t get any). You hate the idea that anyone could live free (so you support the NSA illegal wiretapping).
So who hates around here? It’s you f**kwads who are in power. This is on your watch. Period.
Grow a brain.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:43 pm#52, in re: your “#47 - you obviously had no problem with what Sadam did either. Torture rooms, gassing your own - all par for the course.”
Where did you get this stupid, mistaken impression? I abhor both Saddam (the correct English spelling) and Stalin.
You are wrong again.
Further, your completely inept attempt at derailing the argument is I may say par for the /neo-con course/. Don’t tell me, let me guess: you’re going to invoke “logic” (with which you have no familiarity) next. Go ahead, sir.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:44 pm#42 - Debbie Stabenow sure used fear on the senate floor last night. The left capitalized on fear with the Dubai deal
I’m sorry, but are you denying that opposition to the ports deal was bipartisan? Were Republicans also capitalizing on fear?
(even though the leading opponents husband and former President was making $$ off of Dubai).
I don’t think Senator Clinton was the “leading” opponent, but I digress. I recall hearing that Bob Dole was doing the same and Senator Dole was against the deal… can anyone confirm?
The left’s platform is fear. Fear of your own country, govt and political adversaries.
If we were afraid of our own country, we would stay silent. If we were afraid, we wouldn’t dare to try and change it for the better. You’re the ones that are afraid.
You have no ideas, just hate and fear.
Oh! That’s a good one too. Who do we hate? :)
March 15th, 2006 at 1:44 pmI have emailed the DNC and the DLC.. not one dime from this old lady until they stand up for the “spine endowed” Dem, Feingold, and against the Bush cabal. I want my country back, and anyone who isn’t willing to fight for this had better get out of the way!
March 15th, 2006 at 1:45 pmLooks like we have the cons panties in a twist!
March 15th, 2006 at 1:45 pmLiberals Heart Stalin is FUNNY! he is to political debate what Hulk Hogan is to professional sports. hes a clown! and a good one. everything he’s said has been a riot…hes Ted Nugent, Homer Simpson, and Rush Limbaugh rolled into one over-the-top, crazy, republican cartoon! keep posting, little man!
March 15th, 2006 at 1:47 pm#55, in re: your “Joe Sixpack - of course, bring up Terri. You already murdered her agaisnt her family’s wishes so I think scoring points is a little crude.”
Ha ha ha. I suppose her husband didn’t count as “family.”
And yes - how did you guess - Joe Sixpack PERSONALLY PULLED THE FEEDING TUBE OUT. Thank you, Sherlock Jr., for gracing us with your presence.
I will be as crude as I can if it stands a chance of sticking a needle of sense into your own desiccated, melted frontal lobes.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:47 pmOh stop it. Don’t bitch about oil until you support domestic production (ANWR) and it’s awful that your son had to fight in Iraq, but it was his choice to join. AND he is a hero so stop denigrating his service with that oil b.s.
The problem with modern day liberalism is you don’t support under any circumstances. That ignores of human nature in the most dangerous way.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:48 pmIT would seem to me that what killed Terri was some bad medical treatment from a doctor years ago. As a matter of fact, that was established in court and the doc/hospital had to pay big settlement bucks to Terri and her husband. I think that about settles the matter. All else is nothing but poetry.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:48 pmFrankly, I’ve been doing a disturbing amount of research on many things relating to what all of you may call simple “politics,†but it’s more than this. The parallels between the history of Nazi Germany and the rise of Hitler’s war machine (which I knew little about only a few weeks ago) and Bush’s “rise to power†in recent years are terrifying, glaring, and more disturbing with each page I read. In fact, the histories are beginning to parallel so closely that I feel as if I can read the history of Germany and understand what’s going to happen here next, as if it’s some sort of crystal ball. That’s how obvious it is…
And if you don’t believe this is happening, folks, or don’t believe that the Bush Administration is posing as right-wing activists to get the support of America’s largest religious group, you really need to read up. I have no patience any longer for anyone that spews rhetoric and Neocon talking points to me with no regard for history and the obvious connections to faschism that I’m seeing here.
There is strong evidence, coupled with irrefutable scientific and forensic proof, that Bush and his cronies not only knew 9/11 was going to happen, but actually orchestrated the whole thing. If you think this is absurd and could never happen (i.e. “why on earth would a government want to murder its own people? Surely no one has ever done such a thing before!â€), I implore you to head over to Wikipedia and read about The Reichstag Fire. In short, it’s a heavily documented incident that gave rise to the Nazi war machine as we remember it today. Essentially, the Nazis burned down one of their own government buildings and pinned it on Polish Communists, and used the synthetic attack to justify invading that country.
Within days of the Reichstag Fire, Hitler used his political clout to convince the rather unqualified and reluctant president of Germany to sign the Reichstag Fire Degree, a rather short piece of legislation that essentially destroyed German rights in the name of national security, not to mention provided Hitler with expanded powers to create secret police forces to “capture the Communists†and bring them to justice. Sound familiar? It should. Within days of 9/11, the Bush administration pushed the so-called Patriot Act into the hands of Congress, whose members were paranoid and scared as a result of 9/11. Much like the German equivalent of parliament, they did not hesitate to approve the bill, despite the glaring fact that it contained several portions that conflict with our Constitution, that it redefined “terrorists†to include common criminals (i.e. pot smokers, arsonists, robbers, those who speed on the highway, etc, you get the idea), and that it allowed warrantless surveillance and wiretapping without approval from any overseeing body. So much for checks and balances. It’s important to note that terrorists are considered apart from regular criminals in law (or were, before one was made the other courtesy of the Patriot Act), and that they are subject to different punishments. Terrorists may be stripped of their citizenship, detained without charge for indefinite amounts of time (that means “forever,†folks), and are not subject to a trial by jury, or even allowed to have this. Terrorists, furthermore, can be held incommunicado, meaning they can be forced into isolation with no outside contact - no e-mail, phone calls, or vists - nothing. Hopefully you see the problem with redefining terrorism to include anyone who breaks a U.S. law: it allows the government to completely strip you of your rights and do terrible, unimaginable things to you. Bu$hCo has already done this to people (see Jose Padilla), so really, am I making this shit up?
Anyways, I could go on forever about Bu$hCo’s connections to the Nazis and how much proof I have that they orchestrated September 11th in order to undermine our rights and take over the country, but I will try to be to the point, and mention the most important parts here:
THE TWIN TOWERS
The official story is that two airplanes, full of passengers and hijackers, crashed into the two World Trade Center towers, and that a combination of the impacts and the heat from the jet fuel caused the buildings’ steel to melt or weaken, leading to their eventual collapse. The story claims that the floors above the areas hit by the planes collapsed onto the floors before, creating a “pancake effect†which leveled the buildings.
This story is horseshit. Common sense, along with the basic physics equations we learned in high school, prove this is so.
#1: Jet fuel doesn’t burn at a high enough temperature to melt steel, and even if the fuel could get up to that temperature, the heat would have been diffused throughout the buildings (steel is an excellent conductor of heat), and the beams could not have sustained the temperatures necessary to cause a collapse.
#2: The Law of Falling Bodies, devloped by Gallileo and accepted universally as fact, states that any two objects dropped from the same height, despite a difference in mass, will reach the ground at the same time, so long as they meet no resistance. Using this equation, we find that a rock (or any other object, for that matter) dropped from the floor of Tower #2 hit by the actual airplane, will reach the ground in 8.4 seconds. This is the same amount of time, give or take 2/10th of a second or so, that it took that point of the building to hit the ground upon its collapse. This may not seem odd at first glance, but when you consider that the “pancake†theory requires that the floors contact one another during their descent to the ground, thus meeting resistance, it ought to. A building collapsing via the pancake method could not possibly fall at the rate this building did. The reason it did? It did not pancake. It fell at free-fall speed because the collapsing floors met no resistance as they descended, meaning the lower floors were blown out before the falling ones could touch them. Only explosives could have done this.
There are a ton of other points to be made, but I will summarize:
The architects of the Twin Towers constructed them with airliner crashes in mind, and are on record saying the buildings could have been hit by 2 or 3 planes and would have remained standing.
The steel used in the construction of the buildings was exposed to temperatures of 2,000 degrees (Farenheit) for extended periods of time prior to being installed, to ensure that it was strong enough to withstand fire.
No high rise steel building has ever collapsed due to fire in history, not even the one in Madrid, Spain that burned for nearly a full day in 2005.
THE CASE FOR EXPLOSIVES
Explosives were uses to destroy the Twin Towers. There is no doubt about it. Months after the buildings were demolished, molten steel was being found in the basement levels of the remains, an event that could only have been triggered by the heat created through chemical reactions.
Survivors and witnesses, including janitors who worked in the building and the firefighters who went into the buildings, reported multiple explosions, injuries on floors far before where the planes hit (and before the collapse began), and extensive damage to elevator shafts and more.
Photographs and videos of the collapse show horizontal plumes of smoke and debris shooting through exploding windows far below where planes impacted.
The TV Antennae atop one of the towers, which was attached directly to the core columsn of the building, began to fall prior to the rest of the structure, implying that it was a severing of the central steel columns that caused the collapse, not melting beams.
The buildings’ collapses display over ten characteristics of a standard professional demoltion, including 1) shock waves measures by seismographic machines miles away, 2) “demolition rings†around the perimeter of the buildings during the collapse, 3) a “crimp†in the middle of the structures near their roofs, indicative of charges set off in their centers, 4) a total rather than partial collapse, 5) the pulverization of concrete and glass into tiny particles as the result of immense pressure (not possible from the force of gravity alone), 6) the accelerated collapse of the building at nearly free-fall speed, and 7) an implosion-like fall, as opposed to a toppling fall. I could go on…
How could so many bombs be placed in such prominent buildings, you ask? Easy. Several bizarre evacuations and “power downs†were scheduled and called in the weeks prior to 9/11, and on one day, bomb-sniffing dogs and security, usually present 24/7 for 12-hour shifts, were asked to completely clear out. As for the “power downs,†that they occurred has been confirmed by employees who worked in the Twin Towers, and it has been noted that during these rare “down†times, all of the security cameras, door locks, and access-prevention hardware in the buildings were rendered useless. Any room would have been accessible, and nothing could have been caught on surveillance tapes.
More suspicious still is the fact that George W. Bush’s very own, barely-mentioned brother, Marvin Bush, was the president of the Stratesec/Securacom security company that developed and maintained the security systems for all the World Trade Center buildings, as well as for the airline companies whose planes were “flown into the buildings.†Wirt Walker III, one of George W. Bush’s close relatvies, was at that time (and still is) the CEO of that company. Hmmmm…..
PROFITING FROM THE “ATTACKâ€
The owner of the World Trade Center buildings made billions of dollars in insurance when the buildings were destroyed, and suspiciously took out his claim on them only shortly before the collapse, insuring them specifically in the event of just such a “terrorist attack.â€
The Bush Administration used the orchestrated attack to launch us into a war with Iraq, which continues to this day (but will likely end and be forgotten when the upcoming war with Iran makes the Iraq War look like kindergarten fingerpainting), and has used the resulting war to furnish its favored business partners with powerful cabinet and government positions, lucrative security and construction contracts, and has convinced millions that funneling taxpayer money into mock “defense†is a worthwhile cause.
I could go on, but there are too many examples. Do some Google searches and find out more yourselves. You can’t go three feet without tripping over corruption.
OTHER BIZARRE SHIT
A plane supposedly struck the Pentagon on 9/11, yet the crater produced by whatever “hit it†looked like that caused by a Tomahawk cruise missile, not an airplane with engines, wings, and stabilizing flaps. No 747 airplane wreckage was produced, and none was found at the site, and none has been recovered since. The official explanation is that the plane, along with its two 6-ton turbines, were “vaporized†by the incredible heat. Also, there are no skid marks from a plane contacting the lawn as it crashed, and several metal and plastic objects close to the perimeter of the Pentagon remained untouched and unsinged despite the proximity of the “plane crash.†No video or images of the event have been released to the public, and witnesses surrounding the Pentagon report that videotapes and digital cameras were confiscated by the FBI in the minutes following the explosion.
A plane was also supposedly brought down in Pennsylvania by “patriotic†passengers that overthrew their hijackers, causing the vehicle to crash far from its “intended target,†supposedly the White House. No bodies were ever recovered from the “crash site,†and even the local coroner, called in to identify, tag, and collect the bodies, is quoted as saying he was a coroner for “about 6 minutes, because there were no bodies there,†and that, he never saw “one drop of blood†the entire time he was there.
More than half of the people listed as the airplane hijackers, thought to have died in the “plane crashes,†have turned up alive and well in other countries, and many are indignant at being labeled as terrorists. One even went as far to say, “I’ve never even heard of Pennsylvania,†and yet the White House tells us he crashed in a field there.
Billions of dollars worth of gold mysteriously disappeared from the basement vaults of the World Trade Center towers, and more was found in what appeared to be unmanned getaway trucks parked behind WTC building #5.
CLOSING COMMENTS ABOUT 9/11
Our own government orchestrated and pulled off the events of 9/11 with military precision, using a combination of distraction, technology, and information withholding. They did this to create a justification for getting into a war with Iraq, which, despite all the other rumors, I believe is not for oil (not solely for it anyway), not to liberate or save Iraq’s people, not to root out Al Queda or force them to fight us in a country other than our own, and certainly not because Hussein has WOMDs.
As the looming war with Iran approaches, it’s becoming more and more obvious that Iraq is not a folly or a mistake, but that the war was merely meant to set us up with a strategic location from which we could launch all-out nuclear war on their neighboring country. Likewise, it seems that the deal to give control of port operations over to United Arab Emirates-based Dubai Ports was in exchange for access to the UAE’s own ports, offering another strategic location from which we could strike Iran. And the more I look at the data, the more it looks like Israel is in on all this, too. But let me not get ahead of myself.
Now, you may be asking: War with Iran?! But they’re 5x the size of Iraq, have an impressive army that hasn’t been decimated by years of U.N. sanctions and opressive rule, and the country isn’t filled with warring tribal factions.
Well, I’ll tell you why…
THE IRAN WAR: END GAME
Iran, on March 20th, 2006, is planning to open a stock exchange, under names variously referred to in English as Iran Petroleum Exchange, International Oil Bourse or Iranian Oil Bourse, for the express purpose of trading oil, petrochemicals and gas with various non-dollar currencies, including euros. If successful, this would establish a euro-based pricing mechanism for oil trading, or “oil marker†as it is called by traders. For the uninformed, this means they will accept only euros (and other foreign currencies other than the dollar) in exchange for their oil supplies. This will destroy the value of the American dollar if it happens. For years, countries that have wanted to purchase oil from Iran have needed to convert their monies into dollars to complete the trade. Now, it appears, we can not cash in on those transactions. Once the Euro becomes supreme over the dollar, attaching itself to the ridiculously huge oil industry, our economy will go down the shitter real quick.
And now, in what I know cannot be a coincedence, the United States Federal Reserve announced relatively recently that, as of March 23, 2006, they will no longer be reporting the M3 money supply data of the U.S. dollar. Since M3 is not exactly a household term, let me explain the significance of this:
M3 is another way of describing “money supply†- the quantity of money available within a given economy (ours, specifically) to purchase goods, services, and securities. The reluctance of our government to release the information regarding M3 and our money supply has piqued the interest of many in the investment and banking communities, who foresee this decision as an indication of impending financial / economical instability. Whatever this instability is going to be caused by, it’s obvious to many that the Feds don’t want news of it to get out.
As Robert McHugh, Ph.D. (President and CEO of Main Line Investors, Inc.) has said, “We have continuously demonstrated the high correlation between growth in M-3 and a rising stock market. We have also demonstrated that when M-3 either declines or stays the same, the stock market is prone to decline.†Stock market decline, you say? Hmm….
McHugh, in fact, sees a big connection here between out economy and an impending faschist takeover:
“We aren’t privy to the reasons [for why M3 will no longer be reported] because the Master Planners do not believe in the forthright flow of information. They believe that bad news cannot be handled by the flock, and that confidence must be boosted at all costs, even if it entails manipulating the markets. Don’t let the dead be honored, instead sneaking them into Dover at night. Don’t let the real jobless figures be released, goose [the people] with a phony birth/death adjustment, and so on. Now we can kiss the most important Fed statistic computed goodbye. Do you see what is happening folks? The Unpatriotic Act steals your civil liberties. Three young girls from Kansas cannot board an Amtrak train to New York unless they have a government issued photo ID. This is not some futuristic sci-fi plot. It’s now. It is called Corporatist Fascism. Next could be freedom of speech. Then martial law. A computer chip under your skin. Eventually, your right to vote. Then it is all over, game set and match.â€
According to Dr. McHugh, the M3 figure will still be calcuated - we just won’t be allowed to know what it is, and why? McHugh suggests it is because the Feds expect to have to increase the money supply very rapidly, to extraordinary levels this year, and theorizes that they may “see a catastrophe coming that will require hyperinflation to bail the U.S. out.†Iran opening up a euro-based oil market definitely qualifies as a catastrophe in terms of the dollar and its value, but not when one considers the type of events that have caused M3 fluctuations in the past: the London bombing, hurricanes Katrina and Rita, indictments of top Administration officials, 9/11, etc.
Given the history of the rise and fall of the money supply, I would argue that this veil of secrecy, in fact, is an indication of the impending armageddon, if you will. The Neocons have grown more and more comfortable ridiculing and threatening Iran in recent weeks, and it definitely appears as if they are setting us up to go into an all-out war with them, public support or no public support.
So, I will reiterate once more. The Bush family crime sydicate orchestrated and pulled off 9/11 with military precision, and immediately used the event to lead us into an unjustified and foolhardy war with Iraq, which is now *conveniently* heading toward “civil war†just as the Bush Admin’s threats to Iran become more public. When you factor in the fact that, if Iran is allowed to go ahead with their euro-based oil market, they will decimate the American dollar, there is quote a motive to go to war, albeit for reasons rooted in greed, not peace or liberation.
Bush knows a war with Iran won’t fly based on economic reasons, so he’s going to create a “good†reason to go to war with them: he’s going to make it look like they attacked us first. To do this, another 9/11-type event is going to occur, this time pinned on the Iranians, and it will likely take the form of a large-scaled, state and government-funded nuclear or biological attack, probably at one of our ports. And this time, the body count will be much, much higher, probably in the 500,000 to one million marker. And just in case you don’t believe there has been any lead up to this event, or that this is all conspiracy theory bullshit, check this out:
THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION & WORLD DOMINATION
In case you’re unaware, there is a Washington, D.C. based think tank out there called the Project for the New American Century, or the PNAC. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld founded this organization in 1997, just prior to Bush’s 2000 “victory,†and were promptly awarded high-level positions in the new government when it formed. Other prominent members of the PNAC include George W. Bush’s brother (and Florida Senator) Jeb Bush, the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton (appointed by Bush himself), U.S. Ambassador to Iraq (and former ambassador to Afghanistan) Zalmay Khalilzad, Lewis “Scooter†Libby (Cheney’s senior aide, now indicted for high crimes), former Vice President Dan Quayle, and Paul Wolfowitz, the current President of the World Bank, among others.
The PNAC’s purpose is to promote American “global leadership,†and the following:
* A significant increase of U.S. defense spending.
* Strengthening ties with the U.S.’s allies and to challenge regimes hostile to U.S. interests and values.
* Promoting the cause of political and economic freedom outside the U.S.
* Preserving and extending an international order friendly to U.S. security, prosperity, and principles.
If this doesn’t sound like they want to take over the fucking planet, I don’t know what does. The PNAC believes our military ought to act as a global police force, and that it should be used to “keep law and order around the world in accordance with United States interests.†The PNAC also advocates that the United States government should capitalize on its military and economic superiority to gain unchallengeable superiority through all means necessary, including military force. Scary stuff…
So, the Administration is chock full of assholes who think we ought to rule the world, and the 9/11 documentaries that abound prove that they are willing to kill their own citizens to rally us behind wars that they need to further their plans. But how do we know that a nuclear attack on American soil is in the plans? Well, I’ll show you…
TERROR DRILLS HELD THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY
Since, 9/11, hundreds of “terror drills†have been held around the country, with a purpose (supposedly) of helping prepare us for another attack on our soil. Considering the Bush Administration and the Nazis in the PNAC are the only ones to have ever really attacked us, however, I’d say these drills are actually intended either to brainwash and terrify the American populace, or are meant literally to train local and military forces how to clean up the mess resulting from these inside jobs.
Scarier still, some of these “drills†have turned out to be convenient decoys or cover-ups, intended to cause confusion or distraction in the face of the inside jobs. For example, a drill was held on 9/11 itself where NORAD forces were being trained how to handle the hijacking of airliners being used to crash into the Twin Towers. Because of the nature of the drill, everyone thought the real “terrorist attacks†were a ruse, and so the soldiers thought nothing of it when they were told to “stand down†rather than react. And so, 9/11 happened, and the soldiers came off looking innocent when, in fact, they were all guilty of allowing thousands to die. Several of these drills, simulating airplaning crashing into high-rise buildins, were held around the country in the months surrounding 9/11, and though Donald Rumsfeld, a very close associate of George W. Bush, was privy to all the information and planning surrounding them, came out repeatedly saying that no one had any idea this sort of attack could happen. In actuality, the government knew the whole time, because they were planning it, and they were covering their ass long in advance.
The pont I’m getting at is, very creepy “drills†have been organized around the country within the past year, positing the same type of state-funded attack that seems imminent. As the story goes, a ship carrying a huge nuclear or biological weapon gets into our ports and is detonated, murdering tens of thousands of people in broad daylight. And drills such as these have been held in several cities already, including Charleston, South Carolina (more here) and Houston, Texas.
These “tragic events,†orchestrated by a country’s own government, are referred to as false-flag operations, specifically because they stir patriotic fervor by means of a synthetic attack (see 9/11, Germany’s Reichstag Fire, etc.), and rally the citizens of a nation to support a war, all while placing the blame squarely on an “enemy†of the state’s choice. The result is that you appear to be highly justified when you in turn attack your enemy. An example of this is Operation Cyanide, an operation that was devised because of the U.S. desire to become involved in Israel’s battle against Egypt in 1967. The U.S. sacrificed a Navy vessel that ostensibly was attacked by Egypt. In reality the ship was deliberately attacked by unmarked Israeli fighters, torpedoed by Israeli ships and shelled with napalm. Contrary to all expectations, a portion of the crew survived the attack, and the American airplane that was already on its way to Egypt to avenge the attack with a nuclear bomb was called back. Given the many common interests of the U.S. and Israel it is not unlikely that the blueprint for this operation will be pulled off the shelf to organize a warwith Iran.
In fact, a compelling argument to support the premise that a U.S. attack on Iran is not far off can be found in an excerpt from a column entitled Deep Background by Philip Giraldi. Giraldi is an ex-CIA agent and employee of Cannistraro Associates, a company run by Vince Cannistraro, a one-time counter-terrorism chief for the CIA who in his work as a consultant for ABC News reported on the Bush Administration’s pattern of deception during the lead-up to the Iraq war. Giraldi wrote his column for The American Conservative, a publication by conservatives who disagree with the neoconservative course of the Bush Administration. He describes how the military planners of USSTRATCOM, at the direction of the administration, are preparing a conventional and/or nuclear response (i.e., an attack on Iran) to an anticipated hostile act by Iran: ‘In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq are preparing to do the same for Iran. The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States.
So there you have it. Our government is run by faschists who want to dominate the entire planet, they’re willing to (and already have) kill thousands to get their way, and are now showing poorly in the polls, with elections coming up in November that could lead to impeachments and indictments for 90 percent of the Neocons in office.
If you want my straight prediction, here it is:
Shortly after Iran switches to a euro-based oil system, essentially fucking us, the Neocons will carry out a large-scale nuclear attack on their own people, in a major U.S. city - an attack that will kills 30,000 to half a million people in just a few minutes, not to mention wounding hundreds of thousands of others. This attack will be blamed on Iran, and the Bush Administration, taking advantage of the situation (and bracing for the inevitable backlash and public outrage) will call martial law, effectively putting themselves in complete control of the country. The Constitution and all elections will be suspended, the military will patrol the streets in violation of law, and anyone opposing Bush and the Neocons will be considered a terrorist (or at least to be giving them aid), and anyone who supports this make-believe enemy will be shipped off, without charges or a trial, to American concentration camps, which I have already posted about earlier, several of which are being built by Halliburton themselves.
American citizens will die in these gulag prisons, and we will be forced to endure Nazi America until the rest of the world takes it upon itself to invade us, destroy our military, and hang all of the criminals in our midst. This could take years.
Indications show that this “Iran attack†will occur either on March 23, the day the Federal Reserve ceases to report the M3 money supply numbers, or on March 28, a date being kicked around in the political underground for whatever reasons. In any event, this is going to happen soon, and everyone ought to be prepared.
In the event that Bush calls martial law, there will be no Congress or legislature to speak of, no courts, and no justice system whatsoever. All local police will be under the influence of the military, and traitors will be killed on the spot or hauled off to camps.
There will be no elections, and Bush will remain in power as long as he wishes to. Whatever he says is the law will be so, and that is a terrifying thought.
If you think this cannot happen, I urge you to 1) do some Google searches, 2) read up on Nazi Germany, 3) read the Patriot Act over thoroughly, 4) watch some 9/11 conspiracy documentaries on Google Video (or buy them if you can), and 5) open your eyes, do a little research.
Also, stock up on non-perishable food and water, because people will go batshit crazy when the Neocons take over and soldiers line the streets.
What you find will scare the hell out of you, but educating yourself and others is our only hope of stopping this before it goes down. We don’t have much time…
March 15th, 2006 at 1:50 pm#64, in re: your “The problem with modern day liberalism is you don’t support under any circumstances. That ignores of human nature in the most dangerous way.”
Please parse these semi-literate sentences. I can form no clue of what it is you are trying to say with either.
Typical neo-con: can neither think nor create simple declarative sentences that effectively convey its little thoughts.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:50 pmWhy is it that so many in the right are so blustery and full of themselves? This nonsense about “The right is ready to hit back and we will be hitting hard against those who side with America’s enemies fro political gain” is just that… blustery nonsense. What, pray tell, are you going to be hitting back against? YOU ARE THE ONES IN CHARGE, YOU FOOL!
Why do you feel it so necessary to threaten people with things that you can’t guarantee? Especially when what it comes down to is that YOUR “SIDE” is the ones who have put us into the situations where we are now, and yet you will not accept responsibility for that. WHERE is your demand for personal responsibility now?
You’re going to hit back… how pathetic. You KNOW you have NO basis for your support for a fool in the white house, and so you have to strike out at those who were right in the first place. You just can’t stand to be WRONG, can you? You would rather pick fights on stupid, distracting arguments than to actually discuss things like a thoughtful adult. How TRULY pathetic.
I usually won’t have a battle of wits with an aunarmed individual, but really, your silliness is really showing.
Oh, and on the Dean scream thing, if you hear the actual tape from the floor, EVERYONE was screaming. Fox and others got the tape fo the multitrack from the board, and highlighted JUST Dean’s voice. I doubt that anyone in the same situation would have sounded much different. And to use THAT as a determining factor as to whether someone is qualified to be president is absolutely CHILDISH! You have a habitual LIAR in the head office of the country, and THAT is what you think is actually important?
The only person who is more braindead than you morons is ME for even thinking that you can be talked to and dealt with as an intelligent individual.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:52 pmOh stop it. Don’t bitch about oil until you support alternative energy and it’s awful that someone’s son had to fight in Iraq, but it was his choice to join. AND he is a hero so stop denigrating his service by denying him the body armor he needs to make it home in one piece.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:53 pm“…AND he is a hero so stop denigrating his service with that oil b.s.”
Yes, YOU have nothing to say about your son’s life, nor do you have the right to question anything, ever. Thanks for pointing that out, brownshirt. VEE DO NOT QVESTION OUR EXHALTED LEADER. You damn libruls just don’t get what the “REEL WURLD” is all about.
Thanks Lib for your wonderful words of wisdom, and for showing such Compassionate Conservatism.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:53 pmLiberals Heart Stalin said: “The problem with modern day liberalism is you don’t support under any circumstances. That ignores of human nature in the most dangerous way.”
what did that mean, exactly? we speak english on this forum, homer. other than that, another funny post from the ‘nutty neocon’!
March 15th, 2006 at 1:53 pmNeD if you weren’t so pathetic you actually would be comical.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:54 pm#69 - body armor? Did you vote for Kerry who’s vote against the 87 billion would have denied more than just body armor. Partisan hack.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:57 pmJoe Sixpack - of course, bring up Terri. You already murdered her agaisnt her family’s wishes so I think scoring points is a little crude.
Comment by Liberals Heart Stalin
Hey, Liberal Stalin. Don’t life just suck sometimes? Leave it to a redneck dipshit like me to rub salt in a wound, too. And you are right, for I am just a little crude.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you have your facts wrong on this tragic case, pal. Her immediate family got was her final wish in the end. Or was Michael Schiavo not her husband and legal guardian?
I mean, you and the other rightwing zealots who waded into this tragic story and came between a husband and his wife are total, friggin’ assholes—while I am only a lowly dipshit.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:57 pmWe The People need to find a way to stop the Republicans from killing America.
Republicans claim to love America, but do nothing to correct the unlawful damage being done.
They claim to love the foetus, but hate the child (heaven forefend that child ever go on welfare, which they don’t support).
They claim to love Bush, but he has driven this nation into the ground.
They claim my son is a hero, but he knew first hand that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 or a “war on terror”. In fact, his entire company knew this simple little truth.
It’s really a sad day in America when hate wins out over true love of country. A once bright and shining light for freedom in the world has been dimmed by these dim-bulb Rethuglicans.
Support Feingold. Support Conyers. Tell other Dems that if they don’t stand up to the Bush Cabal, we won’t vote for them. Period.
March 15th, 2006 at 1:58 pmWhy are neocons almost inevitably illiterate?
Does anyone else remember the good old days when you had to have a brain to operate a computer?
Hey LHS. You guys nominate a candidate for Prez who is competent to run a Denny’s and we’ll have us some nice, reasoned debate.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:00 pm#76 - Why are neocons almost inevitably illiterate?
I can’t help but think this is tied to Republican hate (lack of support, to put it in a kinder, gentler, thousand points of light kind of way) of public education.
A significant number of them believe that Jesus will teach them everything they know when they attend christian madrassas. In truth, all they turn out are illiterate hate mongers. In vast numbers too. :-(
March 15th, 2006 at 2:04 pm[…] Think Progress has the news today that two senators have praised the resolution, with Sen. Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI) the first to cross the aisle saying, “the resolution would be ‘positive’ if it fueled debate over the legality of some policies in the war on terrorism.” And despite Dana Milbank’s wishful headline in the Washington Post, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA), has said he will vote for the measure. “The president broke the law and he needs to be held accountable,†[Harkin] said. “Talk about high crimes and misdemeanors!†Harkin said he’ll vote for the Feingold resolution — if it comes up. […]
March 15th, 2006 at 2:05 pmReichWingNuts will have difficulty defending this. If it weren’t so serious, I’d be laughing my head off at those Republican fools.
Nearly three years ago the United States of America took the unprecedented step of invading a country that posed no immediate threat to our security, launching a war based on fabricated intelligence, false assumptions and outright lies.
Today, as that country plunges headlong into civil war, our leaders continue to fabricate claims of improvements, make false promises of progress and lie outright about our prospects. Their missteps have cost thousands of American lives along with the lives of tens of thousands of innocent civilians.
Because of the Iraq war, America is less safe than before September 11, 2001, more reviled throughout the world as an arrogant bully that ignores its own self-professed concern for human rights or integrity, and that has become a laughing stock among the intelligence agencies of other nations.
While the Bush administration claims progress, insurgent attacks are on the rise and Iraqis, in general, are worse off then they were before the U.S. invaded three years ago.
The Brookings Institution, which tracks progress (or the lack of it) in Iraq, reports power outages plague the country and fewer Iraqis have electricity now than before the war. Fewer have access to clean water or a sanitary sewer system…
[from: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/ blog/ 2006/ 03/ going_from_bad_to_worse.html ]
It’s time to impeach everyone in the Bush Cabal.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:08 pmI just called Sens. Murray & Cantwell to register my support. I think the woman at Sen. Murray’s office is getting an earful today.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:10 pmI am a Democrat from Colorado….and I would like to bitch slap that bitch Salazar for quoting the Republican view…”helping the terroists” bullshit, about Feingolds censure request….what a pukey little “wieney washer”, that Salazar!!! Hope the democrat party finds a real Democratic nominee to replace his ass
March 15th, 2006 at 2:13 pmI have been calling for a massive viral marketing campaign. It is very simple.
We need as many people as possible to post this campaign on the blogs that they frequent.
The goal is to send Senator Feingold hand written “Thank You Cards” to his Wisconsin offices. Petitions and emails and calls are great, but they will not make the impact that hand written thank you notes will. We cannot send them to DC because there is a two month wait on the screening. Also, I think the WI offices being flooded will make a bigger impact.
In addition, if people can include $5 or $10 dollars with the thank you cards towards his 2008 Presidential campaign, this increases the impact.
Why thank you cards? Why the goal of 10,000?
We want to show the media and the other Democrats how much that we support Feingold’s courage. We also want to show that we support Feingold’s Resolution.
I picked the Green Bay office, address at bottom of page: http://feingold.senate.gov/contact.html
Here is more information on Senator Feingold and who else would like to see him as our next President:
http://russforpresident.com/
You can find out more about Senator Feingold here:
http://www.russfeingold.org/
The more that I read about Senator Feingold, the more I like. He has fought for our civil liberties, our jobs, our security, our environment, our rights. He is a true progressive.
If 10,000 thank you cards flood the Green Bay office in the next couple of days, this will indeed make a media impact and an impact on the other Democrats.
Senator Feingold had the courage and has the conviction to do what we have all been screaming for.
Please pass this on to as many people as possible and please post the Thank You Card Campaign on as many blogs as possible. I announced it on Thom Hartmann’s show yesterday. Let’s get the cards in the mail immediately.
Thanks for your help.
Please link to http://www.theleftcoaster.com - complete details and contact info included.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:16 pmPlease sign this petition in support of the censure.
http://political.moveon.org/censure/
March 15th, 2006 at 2:21 pm#69 - body armor? Did you vote for Kerry who’s vote against the 87 billion would have denied more than just body armor. Partisan hack
Did you vote for Republicans who continue to vote against it? Partisan, blind, hypocritical hack. The fact is that the body armor isn’t there, and the party with control of getting it ain’t doing it. You’ve got 55 Senators. Get them the body armor, with or without Kerry. GO.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:22 pmNote to conservatives - *****Your posts will be critiqued (FREE OF CHARGE!!) by TP’s resident English professor, Dr. Becker, PhD. Liberal posts will not be critiqued for spelling, syntax, etc. as their feelings are often hurt….
Sixpack Joe - You ingrate!!! Here I am, giving you and other lefties tips on how to capitalize on the Repub “weaknesses” in the Nov. election and you shift the focus from foreign policy to a religious/moral argument like Schiavo. No wonder the Dem Party is such a mess!!
Please LINK Feingold’s proposed Presidential censure with the NSA wiretapping to/from foreign soil. This will allow Dems to differentiate themselves from the Repubs and neo-cons. Americans deserve to see the national security agenda of the Dem Party.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:23 pmY’all gotta learn to stop responding to crazy knuckleheads like “Liberals Heart Stalin” … whoever it is, they’re nourished by your responses. And you make these threads just as unreadable as they do. Please just ignore the little brat. He may not go away, but at least there will be less cruft in these comments.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:29 pm#79, “It’s time to impeach everyone in the Bush Cabal.”
Whew. It’s been THAT time for a long, long, long time.
Just wait for the (inevitable?) invasion of Iran, the almost-inevitable draft (say, how DO we fight two wars when we can’t fight one?). How many of those people who drive SUVs with little yellow ribbons on them will be singing about god and country THEN?
March 15th, 2006 at 2:31 pm#86, “Y’all gotta learn to stop responding to crazy knuckleheads like “Liberals Heart Stalin†… whoever it is, they’re nourished by your responses.”
It’s true. It is fun for a little while, until you realize that their nerves have been anaesthetized by repeated applications of money.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:34 pmHa Ha. Schumer left speechless. Now THAT’S an accomplishment.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:38 pm“I am a Democrat from Colorado….and I would like to bitch slap that bitch Salazar for quoting the Republican view…â€helping the terroists†bullshit, about Feingolds censure request….what a pukey little “wieney washerâ€, that Salazar!!! Hope the democrat party finds a real Democratic nominee to replace his ass”
Chabuka I think you’re talking about WAYNE ALLARD, our Coloradan NeoCon- he’s one of the worst of the worst. He was one of only 9 senators that voted against McCain’s anti-torture bill.
Not to excuse Salazar, he’s a DINO…
March 15th, 2006 at 2:40 pm[…] Update: Despite the fact that the AP, among others, is reporting that no one is supporting Feingold, it turns out that Sens. Chaffee and Harkin are in favor of the resolution. I also got an email from MoveOn.org, apparently they have had 200,000 people since yesterday afternoon sign a petition in favor of resolution. Maybe the politics aren’t all bad afterall. [link] […]
March 15th, 2006 at 2:45 pmWhy are neocons almost inevitably illiterate?
Comment by Glenn Becker
Well, aphrodite? Liberals Heart Stalin? Care to step up here and answer?
No?
Well, I guess it is up to me to answer then.
Correct me if I’m wrong, Glenn, but while us neocons are total idiots; have a narrow fanatical view of the world; hateful of homosexuals, fornicators, drunks, nonchristians, and have a special hatred for all unwed mothers as well as those who chose to abort, we are NOT “inevitably illiterate.” Except about the government. We are very misrusting of the government—-unless they are the patriotic ones in the White House.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:48 pmCould it be? Are some Democrats growing a backbone? Someone, please stand up and “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution”.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:49 pmCorrection to #92.
Not drunks. We don’t hate drunks.
Otherwise we wouldn’t have a President or Vice President we could vote for.
March 15th, 2006 at 2:53 pmAsk your representation to just change the damn oath:
Original Version:
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will
support and defend the Constitution of the United States
against all enemies, foreign and domestic
GOP Version:
I, _____, do solemnly swear, to the one Christian God, that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, where it does not conflict with Evangelical teachings,
March 15th, 2006 at 3:06 pmagainst all enemies, foreign, exempt the UAE, China, Saudi Arabia, and other Godless communist or generic dictatorships to be named later, and domestic, exempt any wrongful deeds performed by either members of the Republican party (here after referred to as The Party), or leadership of The Party, or significant corporate contributors to The Party.
Comment by Screw Bush — March 15, 2006 @ 3:06 pm
ha ha ha ha ha ha
March 15th, 2006 at 3:13 pmIt’s too bad but acutally Sen Chafee is not for the censure resolution. He is for more debate on the balance between civil liberites and national security but says this resolution is not that step.
March 15th, 2006 at 3:19 pmFeingold/Clark in ‘08!
Chris Dodd on Feingold’s gift to republicans:
“Most of us feel at best it’s premature. I don’t think anyone can say with any certainty at this juncture that what happened is illegal.”
March 15th, 2006 at 3:20 pmI have posted a letter to the Senate Democrats over at DKos. Please take the time to read it and let me know if I’ve missed the boat on anything in the comments. Thanks!
An open letter to Senate Democrats
March 15th, 2006 at 3:28 pmSen. Russ Feingold, Standing Tall and Shooting Straight.
March 15th, 2006 at 3:34 pm#100 - Texan for Feingold, Ol’ Russ has his permit to carry, right???? But I’m with you, Feingold ‘08!!!!!
Sixpack Jack, Just say “thank you” for my unswerving encouragement to Dems to link NSA wiretapping and censure. Your moronic take on conservative beliefs is going to get your fractured party nowhere. DEMS need to unite behind Feingold!!!!!!! And remember - it’s 5:00 somewhere…
March 15th, 2006 at 3:47 pmGo Russ!
March 15th, 2006 at 3:48 pmIts about time Americans see what the democrats really stand for. I hope the rest in his party have the guts to do the same. I wouldn’t wait until after November to get the impeachment procedings going, I would start them now! Please write your democratic senator and urge her or him to support Russ as well.
#92, and a few other #’s Why are neocons almost inevitably illiterate?
Seeing how as the majority of HS grads and lower tend to be dem’s I’d say you guys have the illiteracy thing cornered, not us. We tend to be 2-4 year college degree types. And yes I know the grad school’s and higher are also Dems, so no need to state it.
#99 using the dailyKos as a platform? Good thinking, he still going at 0% for supporting winning candidates?
March 15th, 2006 at 3:51 pm“Seeing how as the majority of HS grads and lower tend to be dem’s I’d say you guys have the illiteracy thing cornered, not us.”
Ah, but check the red/ blue state map for a true indicator; states that are “conservative” have higher illiteracy rates, abortion rates and crime rates. I think this is a more accurate representation, don’t you?
March 15th, 2006 at 3:57 pmSixpack Joe - You ingrate!!! Here I am, giving you and other lefties tips on how to capitalize on the Repub “weaknesses†in the Nov. election and you shift the focus from foreign policy to a religious/moral argument like Schiavo. No wonder the Dem Party is such a mess!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite
I’m such a dipstick, aphrodite! What can I say?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but did I ever tell you my real name?
It’s really Howard Dean. YAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHH!
Seriously, if I can be for a minute. Every time I hear that scream, I used to cringe. But now I snicker when I hear it. I was listening to a sportscaster last week playing it ib the radio, alternating it with a scream of a cartoon show of a pterodactylus (flying reptile). He said, “we could have had a pterodactylus in the White House.” Now I laugh when I hear it. And I like old Howard more for it.
Now if Dean had any sense of humor, he could use that scream against his critics, get a few laughs, and end up as the only pterodactylus ever to become president. He would sure be a refreshing change from that rubber-necked jerk in office now, huh?
March 15th, 2006 at 3:57 pmDear Green917 - Loved your letter to Senate Dems!!! The substance was GREAT - it was however, a little (!) longwinded. Believe me, those staffers have enough to do besides slogging through your tome. Cut to the Chase!!! You should be able to say in ONE paragraph why you support Russ Feingold’s censure measure. (They already know they are the minority…) I did think the reference to Eldridge Cleaver was a little much…If Dems don’t respond positively to your constructive criticism, you may want to check out these more sympathetic parties:
http://www.workers.org http://www.gp.org or Ramsey Clark’s group (International Action Center, which is closely linked with the Workers World Party)
Good luck!!!
March 15th, 2006 at 3:59 pm#104 Got a link for a map like that, would be interesting to look at. How about looking at the difference between rural/suburban vs. City? I would assume the cities would all be worse in your categories also, and Cities tend to be the blueist of the blue.
March 15th, 2006 at 4:01 pmSixpack Jack, Just say “thank you†for my unswerving encouragement to Dems to link NSA wiretapping and censure. Your moronic take on conservative beliefs is going to get your fractured party nowhere. DEMS need to unite behind Feingold!!!!!!! And remember - it’s 5:00 somewhere…
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Thank you, aphrodite. And you are right of course that my moronic takes are not helping the party get anywhere.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I better stick to helping you and the other conservatives here clarifying your issues. But what do you think about my idea for Dean? YAAAAAAHHHHHGH! could actually become a rallying cry for the party. Think I ought to send him an email and see if he wants my help in 2008?
March 15th, 2006 at 4:07 pmLiberals just love stallin’
Hey paid to be here boy:
Since when has America or you, ever been for ridding a vicious dictator who has no significance to us? There are many vicious dictators out there who we ingore, because they are not threat, and don’t have anything we want. So don’t pull the “I care about freeing the people under vicious dictator” bullcrap, you really could give a crap.
March 15th, 2006 at 4:10 pmSixpack Jack - I love that SCREAM, TOOOOO!!!! Good ‘ol Howard, he’s the gift that keeps on giving. I think that other Dem presidential wannabe (AGAIN!!), Al “Carter” Gore would have to be a close second!!! Remember, Jack, “FEINGOLD ‘08″!!!!! And for a bit of nostalgia, we could crank up ’60’s and ’70’s anti-war songs - - but to end on a happy, positive, progressive note, we group hum, “Happy Days are Here Again”.
What do you think(??) - - Dems may want to hire me to replace the lackluster performances by the last few batches of Dem consultants… Bye for NOW!!! (That’s for all my feminist sisters who litter this post with their PC “habitually offended” missives. Sisters, unite behind Feingold!!!!)
March 15th, 2006 at 4:10 pm#55
LIberals blah blah blah,
When you are married your spouse becomes your immidiate family, thats why the decsion was up to the spouse, dork. I guess you aren’t married, or if you are, you have poor boundaries and let the extended family run your marriage.
March 15th, 2006 at 4:14 pmSixpack Jack…Conservatives appreciate your unselfish offer…but maybe you better tackle the plank in your beloved Democrat Party eye. If you can’t impress upon the Dems the need to unite behind Feingold, there are other, more “committed” groups out there. Bye for now!!!
March 15th, 2006 at 4:15 pmaphrodite, I only have one thing to say:
YAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!
That’s a pterodactylus scream for bye.
March 15th, 2006 at 4:19 pmGood to see Mighty Die-hard Aphrodite is still here, poking and prodding, what will it take for this person to give up? I don’t think the mission of the hardheads is to defend their party as much as it has morphed into just trashing Progressives and Dems, how much is left to defend these days? The problems with the current Republican admin are far too mainstream, and disaproved of to be chalked up to whiny, moonbat, feverswamping blogs. The neo-con movement has become a bowel movement in the crapper, swirling to its destiny.
March 15th, 2006 at 4:21 pm110,
Mighty,
Looking for a new job these days?
March 15th, 2006 at 4:24 pm#103, in re: your “Seeing how as the majority of HS grads and lower tend to be dem’s I’d say you guys have the illiteracy thing cornered, not us.”
Out of what effluvia did you construct these “facts”? I’d love to see citations, Slim.
March 15th, 2006 at 4:27 pm#108, “YAAAAAAHHHHHGH!”
Yes.
And may the Mighty Omnipotent White-Bearded and Heston-Loving Christian God DAMN Mr. Dean to the Judaeo-Christian HELL (which if you are confused is right under our feet past several strata of rock in which the Devil has planted heinous FOSSILS to lead us astray) for ever daring to have a spontaneous moment involving emotion. He could learn a thing or two from President George W. “I Can’t Do a Thing Convincingly Unless It’s Been Scripted to Within an Inch of its Life and Even if it IS Scripted I Still Manage to Sound Like an Idiot” Bush.
Have it YHWH.
March 15th, 2006 at 4:31 pm#103, also in re: your “Seeing how as the majority of HS grads and lower tend to be dem’s I’d say you guys have the illiteracy thing cornered, not us.”
But … but … but … what about that “liberal elite” I keep hearing about? Certainly that cannot have been all made up.
March 15th, 2006 at 4:35 pm#116 Is the pew research center good enough for you?
http://people-press.org/ commentary/