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Bush to Replace Norton with Idaho Governor

Breaking news from Reuters:

President George W. Bush on Thursday chose Idaho Gov. Dirk Kempthorne as his choice to replace Gale Norton as Interior secretary, a Republican official said.

Bush was expected to make a formal announcement at 5:30 p.m. EST on Thursday.

UPDATE: In 2003, Kempthorne was rumored to be Bush’s choice to head the EPA. He didn’t end up getting the job, but Knight-Ridder wrote this analysis:

During Kempthorne’s four-and-a-half-year tenure as governor, Idaho’s pristine air has gotten dirtier, more rivers have been polluted, fewer polluters have been inspected and more toxins have contaminated the air, water and land, according to a Knight Ridder analysis of Idaho pollution data from EPA and state records.

UPDATE II: Kempthorne has very close ties to the same industries he would oversee in the Interior Department. In his last reelection campaign, he raised $86,000 “from timber, mining and energy industries” that wanted greater access to national forests in his state:

Two of Kempthorne’s top three donors for the 2002 campaign were the Coeur D’Alene Mines Corp., which gave $13,922, and the Potlatch Corp., a forest products company, which gave $12,034, according to the non-partisan Institute on Money in State Politics.

UPDATE III: Why didn’t Kempthorne get the EPA job in 2003? Robert Novak wrote in June 2003 that it may have been because the conservative base was unhappy:

Kempthorne’s free market critics did not like his sponsorship, as a U.S. senator in 1997, of legislation that would have given only huge land owners a way to avoid the Endangered Species Act. He also won passage of the 1996 safe drinking water bill, which led to arsenic standards imposed by President Bill Clinton as he left office in 2000.

Another rumor was that Kempthorne’s willingness to talk openly to the press about his candidacy for the job angered Bush:

Knowledgeable sources tell the Bulletin this morning that President Bush passed over Idaho Gov. Dirk Kempthorne for the post of Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency because Kempthorne talked to the press about the progress of the nomination process. …

One source, who works on environmental policy for business interests, said, “Talking to the press is not a way to ingratiate oneself with this Administration. If you are inside the Administration and you do it, you won’t be around for long and if you are outside the Bush team and you talk to the press, you will stay outside. I think that is the lesson from the surprise announcement.” [White House Bulletin, 8/12/03]

UPDATE IV: “During his career in Congress, Governor Kempthorne earned a paltry 1% lifetime [League of Conservation Voters] score. Enough said.”



102 Responses to “Bush to Replace Norton with Idaho Governor”

  1. Neal says:

    Oh Great!! A Norton-duplicate!! No surprise…


  2. bushllit says:

    let the land raping continue!


  3. Wayne says:

    This is just great. It just gets worst everyday.
    excuse me, I have to go throw up now.


  4. Neal says:

    He’s another buddy to coal, timber, oil, and the like. I cannot wait to see what kind of new flavor he brings to the administration!! Dirtier skies, dirtier water, selling of more of our public land, more clear-cutting, more deregulation, killing the endangered species act!!! What will it be??!?!?! All of it maybe?? I’m dying with anticipation!!


  5. bushllit says:

    caption contest:
    “Dirk, move your hand there’s a camera man”


  6. Sharon Cox says:

    Saw this coming. Remember last year when Bush met up with this guy and they had a photo opp. Was one of his vacations I think. He has so many hard for me to remember. About the same time Cindy sent him packing off the ranch, he went up to Idaho and had those people with all their son’s do a speel for Bush. Bla, Bla, Bla. Then a walk in the woods with our new polluter designate….”No hand holding, my saudi prince might see us in the news”…….Blessings…….Barf, Barf for Bush


  7. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Caption Contest:

    Chimpy: “So you see that there Brokeback Mountain, Dirk?”

    Dirk: “Sure did Boss”

    Chimpy: “And you’ve seen that having some of them there funny cowboys with access to goverment secrets is the biggest security risk we face after Russ Feingold, right?”

    Dirk: “Yes Boss”

    Chimpy: “So when you get ready to bring some of your staff to Washington, I’m sure you’ll do the patriotic thing, Dirk”

    Dirk: “I’m all over it Boss”


  8. NEOCONVICT says:

    nO SURPRISES, EVER. The rapacious reign of the NeoCon regime continues on unrepentant, and espite the polls, the Dems continue to cower.

    Barf.

    But then there’s Clint Curtis. Clint Curtis is mounting a congressional bid in Florida against Tom Feeney. As many of you know, Curtis was the programmer hired by Feeney to write election-stealing software a few years back. Since then, much has happened, including the suspicious death of the Florida Inspector General Raymond Lemme looking into the matter and the total media clampdown of any serious discussion of electronic election manipulation in Florida and across the nation. Curtis, a former Republican, became so disgusted by what he saw that he became a whistleblower. The whole sordid tale is chronicled on http://www.bradblog.com.

    Here’s Curtis in his own words:

    My name is Clint Curtis. I am considering running for the U.S. House of Representatives in Florida’s 24th Congressional District. This great district is currently represented by one of the most corrupt politicians in history. Having personally attended closed-door meetings where Tom Feeney spoke candidly about his aspirations of corruption forces me to provide this district with an alternative to this man. I will need your help.

    http://www.clintcurtis.com

    Now Curtis is considering a congressional run against the VERY well-funded Feeney. He promises to fight for fair elections and to expose electronic vote fraud. He is the ONLY candidate who will take it to the NeoCons on this issue. And he needs our help. He’s got to raise $300K in the next month in order to take on Feeney. Note that being a man of integrity, if he does not run he plans to return all contributions.

    Because of his willingness to take on election fraud, I believe Curtis may be the single most important candidate for the progressive community to promote. Please visit his web site and offer to help, donate even $5 if you can spare it, and help spread the word. It’s time to TAKE BACK AMERICA–and Mr. Curtis may be own only chance of overcoming a rigged election system.

    http://www.clintcurtis.com


  9. Pete Bogs says:

    great – now they’re going to chop down all the forests to grow potatoes…


  10. WaltTheMan says:

    Please don’t post any idiotic proposals that could be implemented by Dirk Kempthorne! We don’t want to provide him with any new ideas.


  11. Dave C. says:

    Great photo!

    Bush looks like a three foot tall, rather perplexed, gnome.

    “Where’s my pointy red hat?”


  12. Badmoodman says:

    Why this guy? Is James Watt dead?


  13. wisedup says:

    are they holding hands? what were they doing in the back woods anyway? OH I get it, so that’s how you get thoes jobs!


  14. A Dark Germ says:

    Iraq is suffering – the occupation has cost more than 100,000 lives with no end in sight. Iraqis want our troops to go.
    British troops are dying in Blair’s war – nearly 100 so far, with hundreds more badly injured.
    The US and Britain are plotting new aggression – against Iran above all. The war could spread and it could become a nuclear war.
    We were lied to about the attack on Iraq – it is time Blair was held to account for his decisions, which have undermined democracy.
    Blair’s foreign policy is making Britain a terror target, as the atrocities of July 7 last year proved.
    Freedom is under threat – civil liberties are being torn up by the government because of the so-called “war on terror”.
    British Muslims are under threat. We must stand together to protect communities being targeted by Islamophobic racists.
    Billions are being wasted on the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan which could be used for pensions and public services in Britain.
    March 18 is an international day of action against the occupation. Protests are already planned across the world, including in Iraq.
    The world will be watching – let’s show friend and foe alike that the British people are opposed to the Iraq occupation and the threats to world peace and our freedom.


  15. Solitaire says:

    He is unreachable, untouchable and unrepentant. King George knows full well what he’s doing, and he does it in your face. Gleefully. His swaggar is the badge he wears instead of a crown. He don’t need no stinkin crown. He’s got all the power in the world at his disposal, on our dime, and do not think for one minute that he is a man who can be reasoned with. He knows what he wants, he gets what he wants, and to hell with anybody or anything that get’s in his way. That’s the King George we have all come to know and hate. So, this is just more of the same. Impeachment is the only cure for this virus. Impeach, Impeach,…
    yeah, right. Congress can’t even get it’s lips around Censure cause their lips are still wrapped tightly around the Corporate spigot. It’s money, boys, money. What trees have donated lately to a PAC?


  16. Ohcrap! says:

    More nails for the Repubs. coffin .


  17. Krazny says:

    I have to admit that Dirk looks a little unhappy in that picture. Did anyone see the news stor on yahoo about Jessica Simpson turning down a meeting with GWB?


  18. Spudge_Boy says:

    Caption Contest:

    Once again:

    “You see how when I pull the string on Bush’s back, he says something stupid?”


  19. David says:

    Talking to the press is not a way to ingratiate oneself with this Administration.

    Truer words were never spoken…


  20. Spudge_Boy says:

    Did anyone see the news stor on yahoo about Jessica Simpson turning down a meeting with GWB?

    Why would George Bush want to meet with a cartoon character? Doh! Wrong Simpons.


  21. Ohcrap! says:

    yes bush looks as stupid as the gnome fom Dubai .Great choice great picture , it tells the whole naked story.


  22. Granite State Destroyer says:

    When is Bush going to appoint Dr. Kevorkian to lead Health and Human Services?

    -GSD


  23. Krazny says:

    Bush would probably see Homer simpson as a role model. On the other hand I think Karl would go for Mr. Burns

    “excellent”


  24. DCNoweasels says:

    See the Governor’s press release about Norton’s departure:

    http://gov.idaho.gov/mediacenter/press/pr06/prmar06/Pr_027.htm


  25. oldtree says:

    the people of idaho will at least get a break, NOT


  26. ChuckLA says:

    Dirty air, polluted waters, illegal war, horrific national debt and no civil rights. With principles like these its no wonder the republicans won the last election.


  27. ann says:

    Can we just let all the neo-cons, white supremacists, religious right and dominionists have Idaho? I’ve never been there, don’t plan to go, I say we give it to the entire bunch of them and be done with it.


  28. Krazny says:

    I have been to Idaho as well. I loved the town of Sandpoint. I think a better idea instead of sending them to Idaho we should send them to Iraq. then we could recall our troops and get this country back on track.

    just my thoughts anyway.


  29. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Caption contest:

    “Mr. President. My wife told me she doesn’t think we’ve been up here all this time fishing.”
    “Tell your wife you appreciate her. Women love that.”


  30. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Can we just let all the neo-cons, white supremacists, religious right and dominionists have Idaho? I’ve never been there, don’t plan to go, I say we give it to the entire bunch of them and be done with it.

    Comment by ann

    We already have it but thanks anyway. In fact we have most of the other states as well. You can have the homo’s and Mexicans in CA and the homo’s and ratbastardcommies in NY, we’ll take the rest.


  31. Richard says:

    At first glance of the picture above, I though Kind George had finally been arrested and was being escorted out of DC. No such luck. Yet.

    And, gosh, he’s a tiny man in all ways, sin’t he?


  32. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Billions are being wasted on the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan which could be used for pensions and public services in Britain.
    March 18 is an international day of action against the occupation. Protests are already planned across the world, including in Iraq.
    The world will be watching – let’s show friend and foe alike that the British people are opposed to the Iraq occupation and the threats to world peace and our freedom.

    Comment by A Dark Germ

    This is America dumbass. Nobody gives a rat’s ass what you commie Limey’s think about anything. By the way, how’d that train bombing thing work for you?


  33. Granite State Destroyer says:

    We already have it but thanks anyway. In fact we have most of the other states as well. You can have the homo’s and Mexicans in CA and the homo’s and ratbastardcommies in NY, we’ll take the rest.

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — March 16, 2006 @ 6:17 pm

    Ten bucks says that this asshat, I-right was parroting the right wing talking point about the Democrats being “racist” in their opposition to the Dubai Port Steal.

    I-Right, I’ll take a gay bar with a jazz-band in New York over a redneck bar with a shitty karaoke machine playing Lee Greenwood to a bunch of crystal meth addicts eyeing the Keno screens in Oklahoma.

    -GSD


  34. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Nothing like a little homophobia and xenophobia to round the day off, eh Adolf?

    Last time I looked, Mexico was taking back the whole of the US south west, from California to Texas, by sheer hard work, one fruit plantation, one vineyard, one restaurant and one hotel at a time.


  35. David says:

    4- The Clearer (cut) Forests Act cannot be far behind this announcement.


  36. Granite State Destroyer says:

    I-Right. Looks like the good lord is working some magic in the red states as of late. Floods, now with the wildfires in Texas and Oklahoma.

    Can’t blame that on the west and east coast homo’s and liberals.

    -GSD


  37. jurassicpork says:

    Bob Herbert, who for some reason we don’t quote much, anymore, wrote a really kick-ass op-ed piece for this morning’s NY Times. Please indulge yourselves in this little masterpiece about Bush’s war until I can post something of my own up (How St. George Didn’t Slay the Dragon).


  38. kindness says:

    i-right-i’s boyfriend wouldn’t put out or something this morning. Damn, I haven’t seen you that off kilter in a while. But one thing I wanted you to know…The Heartland, you know, Kansas, Texas, Nebraska, all the flyover states, they got a lot of gay folk. I don’t find it odd that you don’t think so. They obviously know to stay away from your bigoted ass, but don’t fool yourself….Brokeback Mountain lives right there in the town you live in. Some of ‘em probably live on your street. So stop being such a dick.


  39. David says:

    Caption contest: I wish I could quit you, Dirk.


  40. David says:

    Is James Watt dead?
    I been wondering that for some time. He’s got to be dead, otherwise that would be him in the photo.


  41. TerrytheTurtle says:

    Caption contest: “I thought I told you to bring the ‘Mission Accomplished’ banner, Dirk?”


  42. David says:

    23- Rove always impressed me more as the Sideshow Bob type.


  43. Hardy Haberman says:

    And the cronie parade continues. We gotta stop this crap. Regiem change in 2006 elections!


  44. Hardy Haberman says:

    38. – Gay in Texas here, and a DEMOCRAT!


  45. jurassicpork says:

    I’ve always held that an Interior Secretary during a Republican administration is about as useful as testicals on a priest.

    Someone once said in my comments section recently that I write best when I’m pissed off and they’re right. In a way, I’m like the Incredible Hulk of bloggers: The angrier I get, the better I write. I’m in a mood that would scare a rabid badger and who better to take that out on than my public bitch St. George W. Bush? So, before we celebrate St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow with less panache than even the Irish, let’s consider the dangers of mythmaking.


  46. Jim says:

    Name ANY truly qulified person who would join this CABAL?


  47. Idaho Joe says:

    This guy is the governor the people of Idaho picked. I am a life long resident of Boise, and believe me, this prick is one sorry asshole. He’ll make Norton looks like a member of the Sierra Club, believe me.


  48. Keith H. says:

    Bush on Thursday chose Idaho Gov. Dirk Kempthorne as his choice to replace Gale Norton

    I still can’t believe anyone would associate with junior the imposter.
    I mean, wouldn’t even being seen with him make a person feel filthy.


  49. Idaho Joe says:

    I forgot to mention that he is another draft-dodger of the Vietnam War so he’ll fit right in with the other “patriots” in the administration.


  50. The Great Society :: Bush to Name “Dirty” Governor to Replace Norton :: March :: 2006 says:

    [...] that this administration is determined to do just the opposite. (Hat tip to Think Progress) Permalink| [...]


  51. the composter says:

    Quote of the day on Kempthorne

    “I wish President Bush could quit that man. Between the two of them, they’ve wrecked a lot of fine country.”
    - Todd True, Earthjustice Staff Attorney


  52. ElectricBassPlayer says:

    I wrote this song a couple of years about the Bush administration and it’s (mis)treatment of Earth, which is a living being. The song is written from Earth’s point of view.

    LONELY

    Time
    The thing that comes to mind
    As a denizen of forever.
    These days I long to find
    A world as perfect as a pearl.
    But the truth is, things have been better.
    Black banners are unfurled
    Reactionary letter.

    Gaia (x 4)
    Lonely (x 2)
    I can’t accept that you reject that I’m alive.
    Lonely (x 2)
    Gaia (x 2)

    So
    You’ve struck out on your own.
    Blind to the ways we’re connected.
    Apart but so alone
    In ways that you never expected.
    I’m starting to unwind.
    I’m reaching the end of my tether
    So don’t you drop the line.
    We’re in this thing together.

    Lonely (x 2)
    I can’t accept that you reject that I’m alive.
    Lonely (x 2)
    Gaia (x 4)

    Together.
    Together.
    Oh oh oh.

    (©2006 TACurtis)

    Obviously nothing has changed in those years, has it?

    Complete song is at
    http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/?aid=3274/album999



  53. James Risser says:

    One of the issues the next Secretary of the Interior will have on its plate is the Indian Trust Matter aka Corbell v. Norton.

    This is a case brought against the Dept. of Interior.

    Judge Lambeth, in an opinion in that matter wrote:

    For those harboring hope that the stories of murder, dispossession, forced marches, assimilationist policy programs, and other incidents of cultural genocide against the Indians are merely the echoes of a horrible, bigoted government-past that has been sanitized by the good deeds of more recent history, this case serves as an appalling reminder of the evils that result when large numbers of the politically powerless are placed at the mercy of institutions engendered and controlled by a politically powerful few. It reminds us that even today our great democratic enterprise remains unfinished. And it reminds us, finally, that the terrible power of government, and the frailty of the restraints on the exercise of that power, are never fully revealed until government turns against the people.

    It goes without saying that the next Bush Crony, this Mr. Dirk Kempthorne will be just as DISGUSTING…


  54. jurassicpork says:

    One more item that you all will definitely wanna read: Four Republican senators introduced a bill Thursday that they hope will end the furor over President Bush’s surveillance program by writing it into law.


  55. mr ho says:

    frozen rope….

    Proving How the Universe Was Born
    Associated Press11:26 AM Mar, 16, 2006 EST

    Physicists announced Thursday that they now have the smoking gun that shows the universe went through extremely rapid expansion in the moments after the big bang, growing from the size of a marble to a volume larger than all of observable space in less than a trillion-trillionth of a second.

    The discovery — which involves an analysis of variations in the brightness of microwave radiation — is the first direct evidence to support the two-decade-old theory that the universe went through what is called inflation.


  56. mr ho says:

    The fundamental change in U.S. policy, however, came several years later, in 1950, with the policy paper produced by Paul Nitze for the White House National Security Council, entitled “NSC-68.”[6]


  57. Amazed says:

    As soon as I saw this news, knowing NOTHING about Gov. Kempthorne, I knew immediately this person would be yet another crony, eager to rape and destroy the environment for the benefit of big business and the detriment of people and nature everywhere.

    What a joke.

    It’s time to kick Bush out of office already.


  58. CC says:

    Is that guy tall or is Bush really small statured in addition to his small mindedness?


  59. Cyra Brown says:

    In “Bush World”, this guy’s resume is the “Gold Standard”. His record of “accomplishments” as Governor of Idaho, makes him the obvious choice for BushCo. And after demonstrating that he had learned his lesson about where his “place” is, is taken back by Bush. He surely knows what is expected of him, and will act accordingly.

    A “Bushism” for the Caption Contest- “Arbolist…look up the word. I don’t know; Maybe I made it up. Anyway, it’s an arbo-tree-ist, somebody who knows about trees.” As quoted inUSA Today; August 21, 2001


  60. Bruce Gorton says:

    “Ten bucks says that this asshat, I-right was parroting the right wing talking point about the Democrats being “racist” in their opposition to the Dubai Port Steal.”

    No, actually GSD I-Right-I said it was a stupid idea. I know, it shocked me too when he said it. Don’t worry about the ten, it will only get pinched in the mail.


  61. Bruce Gorton says:

    That said: Look, you actually put people in power who want the last tree to get chopped down. You put a bunch of Evangelicals in and they want the rapture to come right about now, so they can all go to heaven and gloat over everybody they don’t like, who is either stuck here or going the other direction.

    And the really shitty thing is, the rapture isn’t going to happen. Think about it, in Genesis god gave made dominion over the earth, which also kind of translates into responsibility for it. If man then goes on to abuse the power that comes with this responsibility and destroys Gods creation, wouldn’t God be basically a trifle pissed off? Hence Armegedon, and if you think shouting “God is Great” at the tops of your lungs will save you, you are in for a rude awakening boet.

    That is just my Atheist take on Armegedon. The whole point to Armegedon is that God is going to be mighty irritated, and he isn’t just going to overlook the source of that irritation in his divine temper tantrum.

    Anyway, back to today: Look, Bush wants the end of the world. His religious belief states that when the world ends, he will be up in heaven watching all the people he doesn’t like fry down in hell. This may or may not include his father. Bringing in a major supporter of pollution is kind of to be expected.


  62. Chris says:

    There weren’t any Arabian horse judges available? Did Harriet Myers say no?


  63. ElectricBassPlayer says:

    #62 . . . I remember being 8 years old in church with my dad (Catholic church, BTW), looking up at the stained glass windows, thinking that this was the most ridiculous, unbelievable hooey I’d ever heard. 8 years old!

    And that was before I was exposed to the scabrous philosophy of evangelism. Greedy, grasping, petty, vindinctive, xenophobic and sanctimonious in addition to the prerequisiste of being cognitively irrational to just get through any church door. American evangelists are the worst of the worst. That’s what made me realize there was real merit in being true to yourself, and being proud — and relieved — to have not been taken in for a sucker.

    Like me, you didn’t become an atheist in a vacuum. We see their religion clearer than they do, which is WHY we became atheists.


  64. qwerty says:

    That will fix everything.

    R2K


  65. The Pittsburgh Kid says:

    Why is there always so much damn brush to clear everywhere Bush goes? At some point, isn’t all the brush removed? And he’s the President of the United States for Christ sake. Can’t he get a couple of Mexican day laborers to clear the brush?


  66. roundup says:

    Why does Bush appear so small in the photo? Is this his true stature as “commandeer-and-thief”?


  67. LC Liberal says:

    I’m afraid that no one can be surprised with the level of idiocy displayed by this administration. Choosing a western governor, who is bound to have ties to oil and gas interests, to regulate those same industries is wrong, disgusting, but not surprising.

    http://www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
    Progressive commentary on the issues that really matter

    http://www.sunstateactivist.org
    A full listing of Iraq War anniversary events in the SE


  68. Bruce Gorton says:

    64

    I still think Sixto Rodriguez said it best about Evangelism:

    The priest is preaching from a shallow grave
    He counts his money, then he paints you saved


  69. Solitaire says:

    I love it.
    Saved.
    Ha! Save me from scoundrels and miscreants like Bush and his cronies. Save me from that!


  70. unbelievable says:

    If there’s a silver lining, we will now have an example to use in future elections that shows a correlation between someone’s failure or success in their endeavors and their ensuing failure or success as a leader. At least that’s what I’m telling myself…


  71. » Blog Archive » Another (un)wise user to oversee our public lands says:

    [...] Kempthorne’s public career – as a US senator and as a governor – has been financed by logging and mining companies so, if he ever plans to return to elected service, you can make a safe bet where his allegiances will be. [...]


  72. Zookeeper says:

    If any other people from Idaho are posting here, I have one question:
    Does my favorite name for him “Plastic Man” fit, or what? He is one sorry sumbitch. We’re well rid of him.


  73. Duhbya Doolittle says:

    So That’s HOW the propaganda works…..
    ——————————

    The fundamental change in U.S. policy, however, came several years later, in 1950, with the policy paper produced by Paul Nitze for the White House National Security Council, entitled “NSC-68.”[6]

    Nitze was a Wall Street investment banker turned political insider.[7] After graduating from Harvard, he joined Dillon, Read, and Company of New York City, rising to become a vice president prior to World War II. James Forrestal (1892-1949), a partner of Dillon, Read who became Secretary of the Navy in World War II, then Secretary of Defense (1947-49), was well positioned to give Nitze good entry into Washington, D.C. political circles. Dillon, Read financed the German military-industrial complex during the 1920s and 1930s when Nitze was employed there.

    Nitze took over the Policy Planning Staff at the Department of State after Ambassador Kennan resigned the post. This followed General Marshall’s replacement by Dean Acheson, a Washington, D.C. lawyer and Democratic Party insider. The Acheson-Nitze perspective was radically different from the prudent Marshall-Kennan perspective, and there were profound policy implications as a result.

    It was Nitze’s April 1950 “NSC-68″ policy paper that overturned the balanced and prudent Marshall-Kennan approach to the Cold War and prepared the way for a dramatic militarization of U.S. foreign policy, aimed against the Soviet Union and the People’s Republic of China. The paper called for massive increases in defense spending and building capabilities for fighting “limited wars” in peripheral areas around the globe.

    As Ambassador Charles F. Bohlen (1904-73), a Foreign Service colleague of Kennan and fellow Soviet specialist, said in his memoirs:

    Soviet policy was presented as nothing more than an absolute determination to spread the Communist system throughout the world. As I have said before, even in those days I was convinced that the Soviet Union, as far as its own actions went, was largely motivated by its interests as a national state, and that the idea of spreading Communism was secondary to such considerations. . . . NSC-68’s misconception of Soviet aims misled, I believe, Dean Acheson and others in interpreting the Korean War.[8]

    Kennan’s concept of patient long-term “containment,” emphasizing political, economic, diplomatic, and psychological means, was replaced by an aggressive policy emphasizing military confrontation. The Marshall Plan itself then became militarized, contrary to its original spirit.[9] Kennan left government in 1949, returned briefly, and then was terminated in 1952 by incoming Secretary of State John Foster Dulles. Kennan became a scholar at Princeton University.

    The Korean War, launched in June 1950 by North Korea, triggered the critical escalation of the Cold War and the conversion of the United States into a “national security state,” or “garrison state,” as President Eisenhower called it.[10] Today, through increased access to key archives, specialist historians argue that the Korean War was launched on the direct initiative of North Korea.[11] For different reasons, Stalin and Mao gave a “green light,” to be sure, but it was a North Korean initiative and a Korean civil war, scholars say, and not part of a Stalinist blueprint for world conquest and World War III.[12]


  74. Real math says:

    Re: 27 Ann

    Can we just let all the neo-cons, white supremacists, religious right and dominionists have Idaho? I’ve never been there, don’t plan to go, I say we give it to the entire bunch of them and be done with it. ”

    Whoa there, Ann. Painting everyone who lives in Idaho with your broad brush doesn’t do the state justice. For sure the groups you name live in Idaho, but don’t kid yourself. They are in ALL of our 50 states.

    I live in Sandpoint, Idaho, probably the most left-leaning town in Idaho, and it is a GREAT community. At one point a few years ago we had a Buddhist mayor and just last month we had a theatre packed to the gills for a local charity benefit called the FOLLIES, and the political commentary against the Bush administration and what is going on was rampant.

    I think Dirk Kempthorn is a poor choice for interior secretary, as he will just fill the same old Norton shoes.

    Ann, before you throw out the baby with the bathwater, realize that there is GOOD in every town and state, and try to be a little more gentle with your assumptions.

    Kranzy, 27, thanks for the thumbs-up on Sandpoint. Awesome community.


  75. Duhbya Doolittle says:

    Nitze took over the Policy Planning Staff at the Department of State after Ambassador Kennan resigned the post. This followed General Marshall’s replacement by Dean Acheson, a Washington, D.C. lawyer and Democratic Party insider. The Acheson-Nitze perspective was radically different from the prudent Marshall-Kennan perspective, and there were profound policy implications as a result.

    Nitze (NSC-68) to Strauss To Kissinger to Wolfowitz (Plan B) to democrats to neo-cons..
    The Garrison State and 40+ Years of Lying Ass Presidents, Congressmen, Senators and Media Pundits
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  76. Preznit Pinhead says:

    HAHAHA, so Man Mountain Mortimer from Idaho was also a draft dodgin’ chickenhawk like the rest of Boosh’s gang and cheerleaders? That’s rich!


  77. Zookeeper says:

    #75 – Wow, I missed that one, #27. You are absolutely right, Real math. The whack-jobs Ann named are everywhere, not just Idaho. I’ve lived in Moscow for 6 of the 13 years I’ve been in Idaho, and I just love it. I’ll have to check out Sandpoint!


  78. Glenn Becker says:

  79. Sharon Cox says:

    Real Math, does Sandpoint still have the ice carvings and winter festival, also the art fair in the summer.? I lived on Hayden lake for awhile, right down the road from the nazi compound, late 70’s then moved to Bayview. Had a cabin on Cape Horn. Saw in the news year before last the road had sluffed away and the people on the Cape had to use boats to get to their houses. My cabin looked across the lake to Lake View. The park at Athol was the best with the swimming lagoon. Use to watch the white mountain goats all the time and hiked from the base of Pack Saddle Mountain to the top in 79. Beautiful country and great people but the econemy was very bad when we lived there so we moved south to Nevada where there was work….Lot’s of good memories…..By the way every one, the picture of Bull S*** Bush and the Gov are from last fall when Bush was running away from Cindy in Crawford. He went to Idaho and photo opped with a family who had son’s in Iraq and were blasting Cindy……More staged event’s……Blessings


  80. Sharon Cox says:

    Hay Zookeepr, on your way to Sandpoint there is a light at Athol, turn right and go into Faragett Park and camping sights , a great museum, it was the Navy training sight during the war. Theres a swimming lagoon and beautiful area, it is the southern most end of the lake. Just a little way further is the little town of Bayview. Submarines were tested there because of the lake depth. Not to far off the highway and well worth the short drive. Imagine a lot has changed since I lived there. I do go through a short bit of Idaho when I go to Montana. All that country is well worth the drive……Blessings


  81. Bushfailed says:

  82. Not Nobody says:

    Note that in the photo, Kempthorne seems to be holding a mouthful. I suspect he can’t bring himself to swallow, and he doesn’t dare spit.


  83. robert&joan coates says:

    kempthorn got out of idaho just before imppeachment is bigot &racist


  84. robert&joan coates says:

    we dont wont kempthorn in any office he is racist and bigot i can get 2000 signatures and more


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