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		<title>By: Credit For New Businesses</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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New Business Unsecured Line Of Credit</description>
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<p>New Business Unsecured Line Of Credit<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4692580', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Consumer Credit Agency</title>
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		<dc:creator>Consumer Credit Agency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Consumer Credit Agency&lt;/strong&gt;

Payday Loan Credit</description>
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<p>Payday Loan Credit<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4643330', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pussy Mexican Pussy Cheerleader Pussies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pussy Mexican Pussy Cheerleader Pussies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pussy Mexican Pussy Cheerleader Pussies&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view</description>
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<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4623356', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Denese Bye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denese Bye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Denese Bye&lt;/strong&gt;

Researchers probe for web sites on subjects such as this for different motives.</description>
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<p>Researchers probe for web sites on subjects such as this for different motives.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4541804', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Accounting Financial Financial Success</title>
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		<dc:creator>Accounting Financial Financial Success</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Accounting Financial Financial Success&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view</description>
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<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4397130', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: software development life cycle model</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/17/open-source-tax-credit/comment-page-2/#comment-4381806</link>
		<dc:creator>software development life cycle model</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;software development life cycle model&lt;/strong&gt;

Didn&#039;t realise there was this type of information out there</description>
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<p>Didn&#8217;t realise there was this type of information out there<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4381806', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Legal Services Corporation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal Services Corporation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Legal Services Corporation&lt;/strong&gt;

I don&#039;t mean to be too in your face, but I&#039;m not sure I agree with this. Anyhow, thanks for sharing and I think I&#039;ll come to this blog more often.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be too in your face, but I&#8217;m not sure I agree with this. Anyhow, thanks for sharing and I think I&#8217;ll come to this blog more often.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4340022', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: two-pi</title>
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		<dc:creator>two-pi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerald,

Several times in this thread you talk about how Microsoft development software got you in the door for a very low price. I agree.  I came in that same door at about the same time (I&#039;m guessing.)  That door has slammed shut.  A kid today who wants to get into software development (especially without college) will not be able to afford a legal copy of Visual Studio .NET.  Even if he could, VB.NET (and all the .NET environments for that matter) have necessarily gotten complex enough to be useful for developing modern professional applications.  This necessary change is making the language so complex it is nearly inaccessible for beginners 

Look at tomorrow&#039;s Geralds.  They are not using Visual C++.  They are not using Microsoft products at all.  They are using Linux, gcc, PHP, and other open source technologies. (They were using Flash, but Adobe&#039;s going to price that out of reach for talented amateurs.) If you were starting today, I think you probably would be an open source advocate.  

(I&#039;ve written books on both .NET and open source technology.  Doesn&#039;t make me an expert, but I have done a little bit of real study of the matter.)</description>
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<p>Several times in this thread you talk about how Microsoft development software got you in the door for a very low price. I agree.  I came in that same door at about the same time (I&#8217;m guessing.)  That door has slammed shut.  A kid today who wants to get into software development (especially without college) will not be able to afford a legal copy of Visual Studio .NET.  Even if he could, VB.NET (and all the .NET environments for that matter) have necessarily gotten complex enough to be useful for developing modern professional applications.  This necessary change is making the language so complex it is nearly inaccessible for beginners </p>
<p>Look at tomorrow&#8217;s Geralds.  They are not using Visual C++.  They are not using Microsoft products at all.  They are using Linux, gcc, PHP, and other open source technologies. (They were using Flash, but Adobe&#8217;s going to price that out of reach for talented amateurs.) If you were starting today, I think you probably would be an open source advocate.  </p>
<p>(I&#8217;ve written books on both .NET and open source technology.  Doesn&#8217;t make me an expert, but I have done a little bit of real study of the matter.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=496495', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Life on the road &#187; Open Source helps with taxes?</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/17/open-source-tax-credit/comment-page-2/#comment-480288</link>
		<dc:creator>Life on the road &#187; Open Source helps with taxes?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Did you know that Tim O&#8217;Reilly blogs?Â Recently he wrote: Carl Malamud wrote in email: &#8220;Thought this open source tax credit initiative might be of interest to you. You might remember this proposal surfacing 8 years ago under the label &#8220;hacker tax credit.&#8221; Salon wrote about it in 1998. Here&#8217;s the original proposal.    &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Did you know that Tim O&#8217;Reilly blogs?Â Recently he wrote: Carl Malamud wrote in email: &#8220;Thought this open source tax credit initiative might be of interest to you. You might remember this proposal surfacing 8 years ago under the label &#8220;hacker tax credit.&#8221; Salon wrote about it in 1998. Here&#8217;s the original proposal.    &nbsp; [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=480288', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Pritikin</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/17/open-source-tax-credit/comment-page-2/#comment-480121</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Pritikin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t debat the merit of your idea. If implemented, however, it should be as a grant system, not as yet another amendment to our tax code. The income tax is already absurdly complex, weighing in at more than 50000 pages. Worse, the IRS is astonishingly inefficient.  It costs something like $1 for every $4 collected.  That&#039;s $100 billion per year in compliance costs, dead weight on our economy.

There is an alternative, the FairTax.org proposal. The FairTax would repeal all income taxes and replace them with a progressive retail sales tax. Imagine no corporate tax. Compliance costs would be about as low as they can go. The effective tax rate would also be lower because of a broader tax base. I urge you to educate yourself. Visit http://fairtax.org today and study it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t debat the merit of your idea. If implemented, however, it should be as a grant system, not as yet another amendment to our tax code. The income tax is already absurdly complex, weighing in at more than 50000 pages. Worse, the IRS is astonishingly inefficient.  It costs something like $1 for every $4 collected.  That&#8217;s $100 billion per year in compliance costs, dead weight on our economy.</p>
<p>There is an alternative, the FairTax.org proposal. The FairTax would repeal all income taxes and replace them with a progressive retail sales tax. Imagine no corporate tax. Compliance costs would be about as low as they can go. The effective tax rate would also be lower because of a broader tax base. I urge you to educate yourself. Visit <a href="http://fairtax.org" rel="nofollow">http://fairtax.org</a> today and study it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=480121', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/17/open-source-tax-credit/comment-page-2/#comment-480008</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just interested to know how you propose this would be administered... in an open source project, it&#039;s often difficult to know who did what, and how much.... WHO will be getting the tax break?... the developer(s) who do the most, or the project as a whole?... in that case, I can just join a project, write a couple of lines,  and get a tax break! cool!!! Seriously...  if you partake in a project as a volunteer, then its a HOBBY... and correct me if I am wrong.... hobbies should not be tax-deductable..... if however, you are working on an open source project within a corporation, well.... do you care?  if, on the other hand, you want to develop a serious product on your own (i.e. not a hobby), and you want this open sourced, you have to think seriously about your revenue will actually be generated... tax breaks aint much good if you dont have income too....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just interested to know how you propose this would be administered&#8230; in an open source project, it&#8217;s often difficult to know who did what, and how much&#8230;. WHO will be getting the tax break?&#8230; the developer(s) who do the most, or the project as a whole?&#8230; in that case, I can just join a project, write a couple of lines,  and get a tax break! cool!!! Seriously&#8230;  if you partake in a project as a volunteer, then its a HOBBY&#8230; and correct me if I am wrong&#8230;. hobbies should not be tax-deductable&#8230;.. if however, you are working on an open source project within a corporation, well&#8230;. do you care?  if, on the other hand, you want to develop a serious product on your own (i.e. not a hobby), and you want this open sourced, you have to think seriously about your revenue will actually be generated&#8230; tax breaks aint much good if you dont have income too&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=480008', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/17/open-source-tax-credit/comment-page-2/#comment-479941</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a bleeding heart, I a tax payer, I am a writer of softeware, I am an administrator of that and other software, I a user of free software, and I am an employee of a company that profits from free software.... Yes, I know the meaning of free software.  I find that this &quot;community&quot; of ours is more like the &quot;He man women haters&quot; from that old Little Rascels&quot; show. We want to pretend that we are tight but in the end we really don&#039;t seem to like each other... Nothing will change until we of this little geek club that hides out in grandma&#039;s closet writing and  thinking our brains are so much better than everyone else&#039;s change (no, this isn&#039;t a blanket statement but it is prevelant... just read any open source forum and see how some newb or what ever gets flamed for not finding the answer on his/her own). You will flame me for writing this but it is true.  I believe that if I or any one else writes some software and gives it away then why should  we not get a break from the same gevernment that gives Bill Gates a break for charging people for his software. Our community needs to come together. I also don&#039;t understand what it would cost the government at all... After all we are the ones that Bill sues or steals from to make a profit. 

If you don&#039;t have some productive alternative to offer you should keep your flame to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a bleeding heart, I a tax payer, I am a writer of softeware, I am an administrator of that and other software, I a user of free software, and I am an employee of a company that profits from free software&#8230;. Yes, I know the meaning of free software.  I find that this &#8220;community&#8221; of ours is more like the &#8220;He man women haters&#8221; from that old Little Rascels&#8221; show. We want to pretend that we are tight but in the end we really don&#8217;t seem to like each other&#8230; Nothing will change until we of this little geek club that hides out in grandma&#8217;s closet writing and  thinking our brains are so much better than everyone else&#8217;s change (no, this isn&#8217;t a blanket statement but it is prevelant&#8230; just read any open source forum and see how some newb or what ever gets flamed for not finding the answer on his/her own). You will flame me for writing this but it is true.  I believe that if I or any one else writes some software and gives it away then why should  we not get a break from the same gevernment that gives Bill Gates a break for charging people for his software. Our community needs to come together. I also don&#8217;t understand what it would cost the government at all&#8230; After all we are the ones that Bill sues or steals from to make a profit. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have some productive alternative to offer you should keep your flame to yourself.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=479941', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a horrible idea.  

1.) we&#039;re already trillions in debt.  Do we really need another tax break?  

2.) If this is allowed, the same principle will require tax credits for almost anything people spend time on.  For example, If open source software developers get a tax credit for their time, then why shouldn&#039;t I get a tax credit for the time I spent reading this blog and writing this comment?  After all, both are contributions to a published work -- what&#039;s the difference?  

3.) Unlike donations to charity (which are tax-DEDUCTIBLE, not tax-CREDITS), open-source software work is not a donation to a charitable organization.  In contrast, work done on a website for a charity should be (and is) tax DEDUCTIBLE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a horrible idea.  </p>
<p>1.) we&#8217;re already trillions in debt.  Do we really need another tax break?  </p>
<p>2.) If this is allowed, the same principle will require tax credits for almost anything people spend time on.  For example, If open source software developers get a tax credit for their time, then why shouldn&#8217;t I get a tax credit for the time I spent reading this blog and writing this comment?  After all, both are contributions to a published work &#8212; what&#8217;s the difference?  </p>
<p>3.) Unlike donations to charity (which are tax-DEDUCTIBLE, not tax-CREDITS), open-source software work is not a donation to a charitable organization.  In contrast, work done on a website for a charity should be (and is) tax DEDUCTIBLE.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=479417', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>33), your &quot;historical&quot; perspective is a fantasy.

I suggest you take a look at a machine called the &quot;Datapoint 2200&quot; which was available in 1971... (fully TEN YEARS before the first (external, audio-cassette-based!) IBM PC.. and which could hardly have been called a &quot;business&quot; computer).  The Datapoint 2200 had an INTEGRATED CRT display and keyboard, digital magnetic storage, and LOOKED like (and was sold as) a piece of office, business equipment.  It was designed to go on individual desktops within a business.

Note that Datapoint by the latter 1970s was a &quot;Fortune 500&quot; companny, so I think that qualfies as a &quot;big&quot; company.  Datapoint was connecting its desktop, individual, business computers via a multi-megabit, packet-based LAN (ARCnet) fully four years before the first (NON-networked!) strictly-single-user IBM PC hit the market.

IBM never released any self-written &quot;DOS&quot; for the IBM PC.  They released (and sold for several years) their semi-customized version of Microsoft&#039;s, produced (well, sold) under contract to IBM.  Perhaps you are confusing IBM&#039;s -mainframe- &quot;DOS&quot; operating system, which was a COMPLETELY different animal.

IBM continued private-labelling a &quot;DOS&quot; product (PC-DOS as opposed to MS-DOS, but they shared at least most of the same source code) (and later, their version of OS/2, which was similarly a joint effort with Microsoft).  Due to philosophical differences, Microsoft went one way with NT and Windows, while IBM chose to stay with OS/2 until they finally acknowledged defeat and abandoned the doomed OS/2 product.

If you&#039;re interested in the early days of the microprocessor and the PC, one of the best documents is a thesis (not by me, but which nonetheless is available at my Web site) which documents the role of Datapoint in helping to create the microprocessor, and the personal computer as a business product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>33), your &#8220;historical&#8221; perspective is a fantasy.</p>
<p>I suggest you take a look at a machine called the &#8220;Datapoint 2200&#8243; which was available in 1971&#8230; (fully TEN YEARS before the first (external, audio-cassette-based!) IBM PC.. and which could hardly have been called a &#8220;business&#8221; computer).  The Datapoint 2200 had an INTEGRATED CRT display and keyboard, digital magnetic storage, and LOOKED like (and was sold as) a piece of office, business equipment.  It was designed to go on individual desktops within a business.</p>
<p>Note that Datapoint by the latter 1970s was a &#8220;Fortune 500&#8243; companny, so I think that qualfies as a &#8220;big&#8221; company.  Datapoint was connecting its desktop, individual, business computers via a multi-megabit, packet-based LAN (ARCnet) fully four years before the first (NON-networked!) strictly-single-user IBM PC hit the market.</p>
<p>IBM never released any self-written &#8220;DOS&#8221; for the IBM PC.  They released (and sold for several years) their semi-customized version of Microsoft&#8217;s, produced (well, sold) under contract to IBM.  Perhaps you are confusing IBM&#8217;s -mainframe- &#8220;DOS&#8221; operating system, which was a COMPLETELY different animal.</p>
<p>IBM continued private-labelling a &#8220;DOS&#8221; product (PC-DOS as opposed to MS-DOS, but they shared at least most of the same source code) (and later, their version of OS/2, which was similarly a joint effort with Microsoft).  Due to philosophical differences, Microsoft went one way with NT and Windows, while IBM chose to stay with OS/2 until they finally acknowledged defeat and abandoned the doomed OS/2 product.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in the early days of the microprocessor and the PC, one of the best documents is a thesis (not by me, but which nonetheless is available at my Web site) which documents the role of Datapoint in helping to create the microprocessor, and the personal computer as a business product.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=478912', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Photo Matt &#187; Open Source Tax Credit</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/17/open-source-tax-credit/comment-page-2/#comment-478844</link>
		<dc:creator>Photo Matt &#187; Open Source Tax Credit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is an Open Source tax credit a good idea?   &#171; New Blackberry [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is an Open Source tax credit a good idea?   &laquo; New Blackberry [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=478844', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Gorton</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/17/open-source-tax-credit/comment-page-2/#comment-478734</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Gorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Microsoft sue several Linux vendors a while back in a bid to eliminate them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Microsoft sue several Linux vendors a while back in a bid to eliminate them?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=478734', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TaPaPam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Think Progress Â» An Open Source Tax Credit</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/17/open-source-tax-credit/comment-page-2/#comment-478689</link>
		<dc:creator>TaPaPam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Think Progress Â» An Open Source Tax Credit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress Â» An Open Source Tax Credit Individuals developing open source software should have the same tax incentives as corporations, which is why weâ€™ve developed a proposal for an Open Source Tax Credit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Think Progress Â» An Open Source Tax Credit Individuals developing open source software should have the same tax incentives as corporations, which is why weâ€™ve developed a proposal for an Open Source Tax Credit. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=478689', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BitwiseAND &#187; Open Source Tax Break</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/17/open-source-tax-credit/comment-page-2/#comment-478506</link>
		<dc:creator>BitwiseAND &#187; Open Source Tax Break</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress recently made a post on their web site about a new proposal for tax credits for open source software tax credits. If youâ€™re a corporation and you develop software, you deduct your costs from your taxes. And, in many cases, you can take an R&amp;D Tax Credit. But if youâ€™re an individual and you develop open source software â€” i.e., Firefox or WordPress â€” you eat those costs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Think Progress recently made a post on their web site about a new proposal for tax credits for open source software tax credits. If youâ€™re a corporation and you develop software, you deduct your costs from your taxes. And, in many cases, you can take an R&amp;D Tax Credit. But if youâ€™re an individual and you develop open source software â€” i.e., Firefox or WordPress â€” you eat those costs. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=478506', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Linux is not considered seriously by most people. 
Comment by Gerald Gibson â€” March 17, 2006 @ 4:57 pm &lt;/i&gt;

I beg to disagree. I don&#039;t have an ax to grind whatsoever, but I am afraid you are sorely wrong on this one. Linux alone has in the vicinity of 26% of the server market share vs 35% for MS Windows (NT &amp; 2k combined). Maybe you are talking about the client side.

Also, I forgot to mention &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Apache with roughly 66% of the market share&lt;/a&gt;. 

&lt;i&gt;Firefox is an end user application&lt;/i&gt;

I thought that&#039;s what we were talking about: Software, not just developer tools. Am I mistaken?

As for your experience with MySQL -that&#039;s odd. Considering a lot of people are using it as an alternative to Oracle or MS-SQL: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.com.com/MySQL+takes+cue+from+the+master/2100-7344_3-5190975.html?tag=nl&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MySQL takes cue from the master&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mysql/article.php/3405841&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Era of Open Source: Migrate your Data from MS SQL to MySQL&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Successful yes. Replace Microsoft..No.&lt;/i&gt;

Right. That&#039;s what we are talking about: Competing not replacing. No? 

&lt;i&gt;(...)but the open source community seems to think they must be enemies of Microsoft(...) &lt;/i&gt;

No comment -not my opinion. 

And in rebutting my take on how Microsoft is expensive compared to open source, you ended up making my point: You have to pay to get Microsoft tools. You don&#039;t in order to get open source equivalents. That makes MS stuff more expensive. 

Again, I have no ax to grind. I don&#039;t hate Microsoft but I can see it dispassionately because I was writing software while in college before MS was everywhere -and I am not that old. You seem to think Microsoft cares about you. They don&#039;t. They &quot;take care&quot; of their community because it is good for business, nothing more. 

I see Open Source as a very valid business model and viable alternative to the traditional software business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Linux is not considered seriously by most people.<br />
Comment by Gerald Gibson â€” March 17, 2006 @ 4:57 pm </i></p>
<p>I beg to disagree. I don&#8217;t have an ax to grind whatsoever, but I am afraid you are sorely wrong on this one. Linux alone has in the vicinity of 26% of the server market share vs 35% for MS Windows (NT &amp; 2k combined). Maybe you are talking about the client side.</p>
<p>Also, I forgot to mention <a href="http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html" rel="nofollow">Apache with roughly 66% of the market share</a>. </p>
<p><i>Firefox is an end user application</i></p>
<p>I thought that&#8217;s what we were talking about: Software, not just developer tools. Am I mistaken?</p>
<p>As for your experience with MySQL -that&#8217;s odd. Considering a lot of people are using it as an alternative to Oracle or MS-SQL:<br />
<a href="http://news.com.com/MySQL+takes+cue+from+the+master/2100-7344_3-5190975.html?tag=nl" rel="nofollow">MySQL takes cue from the master</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mysql/article.php/3405841" rel="nofollow">The Era of Open Source: Migrate your Data from MS SQL to MySQL</a></p>
<p><i>Successful yes. Replace Microsoft..No.</i></p>
<p>Right. That&#8217;s what we are talking about: Competing not replacing. No? </p>
<p><i>(&#8230;)but the open source community seems to think they must be enemies of Microsoft(&#8230;) </i></p>
<p>No comment -not my opinion. </p>
<p>And in rebutting my take on how Microsoft is expensive compared to open source, you ended up making my point: You have to pay to get Microsoft tools. You don&#8217;t in order to get open source equivalents. That makes MS stuff more expensive. </p>
<p>Again, I have no ax to grind. I don&#8217;t hate Microsoft but I can see it dispassionately because I was writing software while in college before MS was everywhere -and I am not that old. You seem to think Microsoft cares about you. They don&#8217;t. They &#8220;take care&#8221; of their community because it is good for business, nothing more. </p>
<p>I see Open Source as a very valid business model and viable alternative to the traditional software business.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=478474', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Gerald, I see. So you actually didnâ€™t have any knowledge about Microsoftâ€™s theft of othersâ€™ technology, or Microsoftâ€™s development cycles and versions, or how companies invest in software product development, or anything that you were spouting off on. Youâ€™re just a Bill Gates fan. &lt;/em&gt;

What are you talking about? I specifically said I have been writing software professionaly for about 12 years now. I have been in this industry for a while and have read all the same crap about Microsofts &quot;theft&quot; as you have. I have learned how Microsofts development cycles work BECAUSE THEY PUBLISH IT TO TEACH OTHERS HOW. Look up all the books and magazines and whitepapers and MSDE study guides ...on and on and on... Microsoft has a huge and comprehensive library of literature explaining exactly how to develop software successfully... You do NOT have to work there to get that info which is EXACLY what I was talking about ...they support their community to an unbelievable degree. And I know EXACTLY how companies invest in software development because I have been the one paid that money to make that software OR I have been the one making those decisions. How did you not get that from my very detailed posts? Oh you didnt read anything but the first 3 sentences? ok well that maks sense now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Gerald, I see. So you actually didnâ€™t have any knowledge about Microsoftâ€™s theft of othersâ€™ technology, or Microsoftâ€™s development cycles and versions, or how companies invest in software product development, or anything that you were spouting off on. Youâ€™re just a Bill Gates fan. </em></p>
<p>What are you talking about? I specifically said I have been writing software professionaly for about 12 years now. I have been in this industry for a while and have read all the same crap about Microsofts &#8220;theft&#8221; as you have. I have learned how Microsofts development cycles work BECAUSE THEY PUBLISH IT TO TEACH OTHERS HOW. Look up all the books and magazines and whitepapers and MSDE study guides &#8230;on and on and on&#8230; Microsoft has a huge and comprehensive library of literature explaining exactly how to develop software successfully&#8230; You do NOT have to work there to get that info which is EXACLY what I was talking about &#8230;they support their community to an unbelievable degree. And I know EXACTLY how companies invest in software development because I have been the one paid that money to make that software OR I have been the one making those decisions. How did you not get that from my very detailed posts? Oh you didnt read anything but the first 3 sentences? ok well that maks sense now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=478431', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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