“Court papers filed late Friday raise the possibility a trial could become politically embarrassing for the Bush administration by focusing on the debate about whether the White House manipulated intelligence to justify the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003,” the AP reports.
I bet the fingers will be pointed at state dept. and not the white house.
March 18th, 2006 at 8:34 pmI KNOW ONE THING FOR SURE, and that is that nothing Libby will say or do in this matter is going to harm or even embarrass the President, the Vice President, or the Administration.
I KNOW THAT MUCH FOR SURE.
And so for what reason might there be for he or his lawyer to start mouthing off about making Intelligence matters a focus of the trial?
How about as a tactic to have most or all of the documents introduced into the proceedings classified, and therefore sealed from public view?
How about to have parts or even all of the proceedings themselves, likewise closed to the public and the press, on the grounds that National Security is being discussed?
How about introducing sensitive National Security matters into the trial, so as to intimidate and hamstring not only the Prosecution in what they may so or do, but the Judge also?
And finally, how about introducing sensitive National Security matters into the trial, so as to disqualify the option of having a Jury hear the matter?
March 18th, 2006 at 8:43 pmI assume you meant to spell “Libby trial” and not “Libby trail”? Then again, I’m sure Libby is the trail to an impeachable offense, so maybe it was just freudian? ;)
March 18th, 2006 at 8:44 pmi had an epiphany: stephen hadley… it is all academic at this point; as i read somewhere yesterday, americans wouldn’t get rid of bush if they saw him running naked running through the front lawn of the white house, chasing a little boy…
hadley is a bastard and it would fit his style quite nicely.
peace,
jim
March 18th, 2006 at 8:44 pmhttp://www.rissercouk.blogspot.com
With that information we can impeach George W. Bush and he can take all his base with him. Cheney has got most of his stolen money. Rummy got his fake bird flu money. Connie is still stealing but looking for a man no luck with that. Libby will be found guilty of obstruction of justice. The CIA leak was a team efford not just one person. I hope Fitzgerald gets all of them and make them pay for the crimes they have committed.
March 18th, 2006 at 9:25 pmFrom the Associated Press article, written by Pete Yost, to which this item refers:
[Paragraph #7] Libby’s lawyers are asking U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton for access to government documents about a 2002 trip that Plame’s husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, made to the African nation of Niger at the CIA’s behest and about “his wife’s involvement” with that mission.
[Paragraph #16] The defense says the documents it seeks will help demonstrate that the White House did not launch a concerted effort to punish Wilson by leaking his wife’s identity, as administration critics have alleged.
[Paragraph #21, which concludes the article] Based on his 2002 trip, Wilson said he had found it highly doubtful the nation of Niger had agreed to sell uranium yellowcake to Iraq, as alleged in intelligence provided to the CIA.
I thought the focus of this trial was on who disclosed Top Secret information (the identity of a CIA operative); why would the focus shift from who disclosed that information, to matters and documents that remain classified; read Paragraph # 7 again… what bearing could such matters possibly have on finding out who it was who dislosed this operative’s identity?
And if the document request then seems irrelevant to establishing who it was who divulged this operatives identity to the press, then why request those documents?
Read Paragraph #16 again.
March 18th, 2006 at 9:28 pmDem 02020, I think they are trying to make a case that Libby is so, so busy, and so so preoccupied with his work that he couldn’t possibly have committed to memory who he spoke to and when. Personally, I don’t think it will fly because LIbby has also been known to be a real detail man.
March 18th, 2006 at 9:41 pmLibby is trying to divert attention from the real issue for which he is on trial, and no matter what comes out at his trial, I don’t think he will hurt theWhite House too much; he is the loyal servant. You said it yourself, “nothing Libby will say or do in this matter is going to harm or even embarrass the President, the Vice President, or the Administration”…
The Plame case seems to be dead – no one is investigating it now as far as I know.
there is a fundamentalist core in this country. the same kind that kills for cartoons, the same kind that weeps over the grave of milosevec, the same kind that love Robertson and believe in the bible as literal truth, believe in the literal creation.
March 18th, 2006 at 9:49 pmthese people cannot see Bush running naked after a little boy… they simply cannot see it. he’s done that, and worse and he justifies it and he is unrepentant.
the notion of human is very very elastic.
cars and electronics and books and language notwithstanding, these people are only shaped like humans. hell, that’s most of us.
If we keep punching at the wall of lies, sooner or later we will punch thru it, and keep punching until the truth comes spilling out. Marie, i’ve seen you have a great left hook!…for myself I wear a good #12 steel toed boot.
March 18th, 2006 at 9:50 pm#9 We’re all punching and kicking here; I hope we are at least weakening the wall of lies — a sort of death by a thousand cuts. Bush&co are bleeding, but they are still on their feet. We need the press and the media to join us, and bring the battering rams to break down the wall of lies.
March 18th, 2006 at 10:07 pmUp to now, they are merely bystanders at best, propagandists at worst.
For the latest news, documents, stimelines and statutues on PlameGate, see:
March 19th, 2006 at 1:51 am“The Plame/CIA Leak Resource Center.”
Maybe Libby will pull a Brownie.
March 19th, 2006 at 5:55 amThere is nothing like the prospect of a little jail time to loosen up the concept of loyalty. He will probably pull a Brownie.
March 19th, 2006 at 5:57 amThe Libby Trail…
Sounds almost like a song title. Anyway, if this trial ends up including secret documents and such, surely it means that more of this current administration should end up facing the judge?
March 19th, 2006 at 7:18 amYou need the return of the political protest song and a dramatic reverse to the game industry’s traditional aversion to political messaging. You also need to destroy the “Britney Spears in More Make-up” brand of punk you have at the moment.
You need a re-awakening of your artists and a serious rethink of your position on what art is. You need to stop the pretense of artistry in crap, and start appreciating the art which is pretty. You need to stop pretending that disgust is the only emotion worth expressing.
And that sounds like a massive contradiction of the paragraph before doesn’t it? It isn’t. We need a return to reality, not more fake adolescent angst. We need to hear about the good things, and to awaken to the fact that though we are on the eve of destruction, tomorrow can be put of until next year with some cunning scheduling, and the stars are pretty.
March 19th, 2006 at 8:05 amI finf it hard to believe that majors bells didn’t go off at The Agency when Bob Novak called to get defacto permission to run her name in a story. If these internal wars were supposedly so intense that Scooter Leaky forgot that he had just pulled the pin on the Joe Wilson grenade what in God’s name was he so consumed with? The CIA must have let it run for one reason only, to let it hang Cheney and stop his abrogation of The agency.
March 19th, 2006 at 8:06 amHere is one of my favorite articles. real keeper. Enjoy: http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2006/0209nj1.htm
March 19th, 2006 at 8:18 amSorry about my spelling, I usually don’t read them before I send them. Kiitos.
They have so many big names involed…. It is going to be a huge trial.
Bathrooms
March 19th, 2006 at 8:41 amRockets
This trial is going to be absolutely nothing. This asshole Scooter Libby already has the promise of a presidential pardon, and has no worries at all. He is raising millions, with the aid of the RNC and the pukes and will live happily ever after.
March 19th, 2006 at 10:02 amI don’t think any of this will touch the WH ~ or damage the GOP power structure. The money behind bush/cheney is pushing an agenda, not the men. The agenda is what counts and they will make Mr. Libby a rich man to be the fall guy. I agree that the focus will be on the State Dept. / CIA / just about anyone else but not the WH manlipulating the data. It will amount to a lot of finger pointing, but Libby will not take down the WH.
March 19th, 2006 at 10:10 amAlthough it does my heart good to read this, I’d like to ask why can’t the media and pundits stop focusing on what’s ‘politically embarrassing’, and tell the truth? Our government deliberately outed a covert CIA operative that it turns out among other things, was working on investigating Iran’s WMD programs. They did it because they were hell-bent on invading Iraq long before 9/11 happened (not that Iraq had anything to do with it), and Ms. Plame was not towing the line.
I’m beyond sick with the media when they report crimes and atrocities of the Bush administration as something that is going to ‘hurt the party or chances for re-election’. How about talking about who and what is really being hurt by what’s going on?
How about they ask an Iraqi that saw his child’s head blown off in front of him during a war that was illegal and immoral? How does he feel? Did he love his child as much as a white parent loves theirs? Or how about someone who’s been spied on for no reason, or someone who has lost their job, health insurance, and/or has fallen into poverty? How about they interview a parent who has a child with autism because of the mercury levels? Or someone who has been arrested for going to a peaceful anti-war protest? Or someone refused entry to a Bush/Cheney event because they refused to sign a loyalty oath? They could ask the residents of New Orleans how they felt when they learned George of the Bungle knew what was going to happen and didn’t do one GD thing about it except eat birthday cake and continue his vacation. Or how about asking all of us how much we enjoy high heating and gas prices? Or what do we feel about the fact that the Bushies alter and delete scientific findings to suit their agenda? Do we miss all of the glaciers that are gone forever, and will we be content to only see Polar bears in the zoo? The list of questions I’d love to ask is way too long to put in writing.
The crimes and mistakes of the Bush administration are hurting real people every day. THAT’s what the media should be reporting on, not that the crimes are just ‘politically embarrassing’.
March 19th, 2006 at 7:50 pm