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		<title>By: Glenn Becker</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/22/a-right-wing-confession/comment-page-2/#comment-483987</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57 and others, it makes me nervous to type it, but I have a book by Derbyshire on my shelf. It has nothing to do with politics but is instead a semi-popular treatment of a rather abstruse mathematical subject: what is known as the Riemann Hypothesis. The book is titled Prime Obsession and is ... excellent.

At times, I don&#039;t know, I think we all need to look in the mirror. I include myself, of course. What is one to do with Derbyshire, who has said the (at least!) scurrilous thing above but who is by no means a boob of the kind who haunts this forum with mis-spelled accusations of &quot;treason&quot; and so forth. A similarly haunting case is that of James Lileks, a humorist from Minneapolis whose various websites I found uncomplicatedly side-splitting ... until I found out that he, too was a winger.

Some of them &quot;over there&quot; /do/ have brains. In a way it makes it WORSE.

Me, I&#039;d file Derbyshire&#039;s asinine confession under my own growing pile of stuff demonstrating just how little we have evolved since our lizard brains started getting crusted over with cortex. We /like/ violence, or some of us do, at least as long as it&#039;s happening to The Other Guy, and particularly if our perception of The Other Guy is that he&#039;s someone who would LOOOVVVEE to have our heads on plates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57 and others, it makes me nervous to type it, but I have a book by Derbyshire on my shelf. It has nothing to do with politics but is instead a semi-popular treatment of a rather abstruse mathematical subject: what is known as the Riemann Hypothesis. The book is titled Prime Obsession and is &#8230; excellent.</p>
<p>At times, I don&#8217;t know, I think we all need to look in the mirror. I include myself, of course. What is one to do with Derbyshire, who has said the (at least!) scurrilous thing above but who is by no means a boob of the kind who haunts this forum with mis-spelled accusations of &#8220;treason&#8221; and so forth. A similarly haunting case is that of James Lileks, a humorist from Minneapolis whose various websites I found uncomplicatedly side-splitting &#8230; until I found out that he, too was a winger.</p>
<p>Some of them &#8220;over there&#8221; /do/ have brains. In a way it makes it WORSE.</p>
<p>Me, I&#8217;d file Derbyshire&#8217;s asinine confession under my own growing pile of stuff demonstrating just how little we have evolved since our lizard brains started getting crusted over with cortex. We /like/ violence, or some of us do, at least as long as it&#8217;s happening to The Other Guy, and particularly if our perception of The Other Guy is that he&#8217;s someone who would LOOOVVVEE to have our heads on plates.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483987', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/22/a-right-wing-confession/comment-page-2/#comment-483661</link>
		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put this asshat on the list of people to round up and hang after this bad dream is over. He should be there with Kristol, Cheney, Gingrich, et. al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put this asshat on the list of people to round up and hang after this bad dream is over. He should be there with Kristol, Cheney, Gingrich, et. al.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483661', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Kay</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/22/a-right-wing-confession/comment-page-2/#comment-483616</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;We must never forget what John Derbyshire said about Chelsea Clinton:&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past - I&#039;m not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble - recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin&#039;s penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an &#039;enemy of the people&#039;. The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, &#039;clan liability&#039;. In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished &#039;to the ninth degree&#039;: that is, everyone in the offender&#039;s own generation would be killed, and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed. (This sounds complicated, but in practice what usually happened was that a battalion of soldiers was sent to the offender&#039;s home town, where they killed everyone they could find, on the principle neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet - &#039;let God sort &#039;em out&#039;.)
 - John Derbyshire, The National Review, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire021501.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;February 15, 2001&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For more quotes from right wingers who want liberals to die because of our beliefs, &lt;a href=&quot;http://makethemaccountable.com/myth/LiberalsShouldBeNICE.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click here&lt;/a&gt;.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>We must never forget what John Derbyshire said about Chelsea Clinton:</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past &#8211; I&#8217;m not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble &#8211; recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin&#8217;s penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an &#8216;enemy of the people&#8217;. The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, &#8216;clan liability&#8217;. In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished &#8216;to the ninth degree&#8217;: that is, everyone in the offender&#8217;s own generation would be killed, and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed. (This sounds complicated, but in practice what usually happened was that a battalion of soldiers was sent to the offender&#8217;s home town, where they killed everyone they could find, on the principle neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet &#8211; &#8216;let God sort &#8216;em out&#8217;.)<br />
 &#8211; John Derbyshire, The National Review, <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire021501.shtml" rel="nofollow">February 15, 2001</a></p></blockquote>
<p>For more quotes from right wingers who want liberals to die because of our beliefs, <a href="http://makethemaccountable.com/myth/LiberalsShouldBeNICE.htm" rel="nofollow">click here</a>.</p>
<p>Carolyn Kay<br />
MakeThemAccountable.com<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483616', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/22/a-right-wing-confession/comment-page-2/#comment-483582</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadistic pig.  I can contemplate an unhappy afterlife for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadistic pig.  I can contemplate an unhappy afterlife for him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483582', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always remember:  Derbyshire called for the murder of Chelsea Clinton.  Just because.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always remember:  Derbyshire called for the murder of Chelsea Clinton.  Just because.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483541', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cyra Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyra Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to flatter myself by thinking my reading and comprehension skills are just a bit above &quot;average&quot;. But I must admit, I am stumped. Did he have an actual point? Was he comparing his two groups to see who was the more morally repugnant between them? It looked to me to just be a loooooooong rambling &quot;bowel movement&quot; that he views as being articulate and insightful. What a waste of time. Jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to flatter myself by thinking my reading and comprehension skills are just a bit above &#8220;average&#8221;. But I must admit, I am stumped. Did he have an actual point? Was he comparing his two groups to see who was the more morally repugnant between them? It looked to me to just be a loooooooong rambling &#8220;bowel movement&#8221; that he views as being articulate and insightful. What a waste of time. Jerk.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483497', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Derbyshire. How much did they pay for the last vestigial remnants of your humanity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Derbyshire. How much did they pay for the last vestigial remnants of your humanity?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483472', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: the fly-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>the fly-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Gerald Gibson you are basically saying Psychological Parasitic Pathogens infect every one? Clearly, Conservatives have way more cooties than liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Gerald Gibson you are basically saying Psychological Parasitic Pathogens infect every one? Clearly, Conservatives have way more cooties than liberals.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483465', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Brain</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/22/a-right-wing-confession/comment-page-1/#comment-483463</link>
		<dc:creator>The Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Great.
Blood Cult [pro-Israeli] Neo-Cons teamed up with Blood Cult blow you up Christianity [Falwell, North, Robertson]
and this is what you get. Some Seriously confused, and deluded Chicken Hawk War Mongers
[whom Love Blood and Wars yet won&#039;t fight in them]

A World of Theocratic Idiot-centrists to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Great.<br />
Blood Cult [pro-Israeli] Neo-Cons teamed up with Blood Cult blow you up Christianity [Falwell, North, Robertson]<br />
and this is what you get. Some Seriously confused, and deluded Chicken Hawk War Mongers<br />
[whom Love Blood and Wars yet won't fight in them]</p>
<p>A World of Theocratic Idiot-centrists to be sure.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483463', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Essentially, this kind of murder was what Saddam was doing prior to our invasion, and none of my liberal friends were screaming about stopping that kind of genocide, or stopping the situation in Burma or any of the many African countries in which this happens every day. So, in that sense, â€œinhuman callousnessâ€ is a charge that can be spread around to everyone. &lt;/em&gt;


If they are doing it to themselves while we have been minding our own business... that is one thing. Doing it after we stired up the pot that is quit another. 

In the first instance we can (as a good christian country) encourage the people to stop the insanity. If we feel that evil is being commited before our eyes (like the south with their slaves) then we might even get involved with force to stop the fighting.

In the second instance America wanted something and a civil war that resulted in the deaths of many many innocent was not going to stand in our way. We will just lie about our modivations so that we do not have to feel guilty and so that we can &quot;save face&quot; as we are called out at home by our fellow Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Essentially, this kind of murder was what Saddam was doing prior to our invasion, and none of my liberal friends were screaming about stopping that kind of genocide, or stopping the situation in Burma or any of the many African countries in which this happens every day. So, in that sense, â€œinhuman callousnessâ€ is a charge that can be spread around to everyone. </em></p>
<p>If they are doing it to themselves while we have been minding our own business&#8230; that is one thing. Doing it after we stired up the pot that is quit another. </p>
<p>In the first instance we can (as a good christian country) encourage the people to stop the insanity. If we feel that evil is being commited before our eyes (like the south with their slaves) then we might even get involved with force to stop the fighting.</p>
<p>In the second instance America wanted something and a civil war that resulted in the deaths of many many innocent was not going to stand in our way. We will just lie about our modivations so that we do not have to feel guilty and so that we can &#8220;save face&#8221; as we are called out at home by our fellow Americans.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483356', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: infotainment</title>
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		<dc:creator>infotainment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™m sure OBL contemplated the spectacle of thousands of Americans dying on 9/11 with calm composure. Nice company you keep there, Derb. 

Comment by renato â€” March 22, 2006 @ 4:07 pm &lt;/i&gt;


&lt;b&gt; Exactly! &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Iâ€™m sure OBL contemplated the spectacle of thousands of Americans dying on 9/11 with calm composure. Nice company you keep there, Derb. </p>
<p>Comment by renato â€” March 22, 2006 @ 4:07 pm </i></p>
<p><b> Exactly! </b><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483349', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is an outrageous comment by Derbyshire.  Perhaps, the suggestion by&lt;em&gt; #1 GMT&lt;/em&gt; is in order.
How incredibly callous and cold - Derbyshire  is even too dumb to keep his ignorance behind a closed mouth.
Family values? Betcha he goes to church and prays real loud too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is an outrageous comment by Derbyshire.  Perhaps, the suggestion by<em> #1 GMT</em> is in order.<br />
How incredibly callous and cold &#8211; Derbyshire  is even too dumb to keep his ignorance behind a closed mouth.<br />
Family values? Betcha he goes to church and prays real loud too!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483340', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#14 redneck, I went to a fertility clinic and adopted a hundred frozen embryos, and I am declaring each one a dependant for tax purposes.&lt;/em&gt;
I have been making the same point - if they claim a cluster of cells is a &quot;child&quot; and abortion is murder, then they will have to allow for tax deductions as soon as the test strip comes back positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>#14 redneck, I went to a fertility clinic and adopted a hundred frozen embryos, and I am declaring each one a dependant for tax purposes.</em><br />
I have been making the same point &#8211; if they claim a cluster of cells is a &#8220;child&#8221; and abortion is murder, then they will have to allow for tax deductions as soon as the test strip comes back positive.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483336', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barig</title>
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		<dc:creator>barig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok. I&#039;ll say it.

John Derbyshire is inhumanly callous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok. I&#8217;ll say it.</p>
<p>John Derbyshire is inhumanly callous.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483299', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kyblu</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyblu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every once in a while one of them slips up and says what they all think. No surprise at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every once in a while one of them slips up and says what they all think. No surprise at all.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483294', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zimzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zimzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we just got an inside look at Neoconman&#039;s brain, folks.
This is the shit that &#039;makes them tick&#039;.
They are the &#039;ol KKK in present tense, still getting their rocks
off watching people of color die while they count the money they
made on the weapons stock they inherited.
Now you know how they think...
aren&#039;t you glad you&#039;re not one of them?
NO INCUMBANTS IN &#039;06!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we just got an inside look at Neoconman&#8217;s brain, folks.<br />
This is the shit that &#8216;makes them tick&#8217;.<br />
They are the &#8216;ol KKK in present tense, still getting their rocks<br />
off watching people of color die while they count the money they<br />
made on the weapons stock they inherited.<br />
Now you know how they think&#8230;<br />
aren&#8217;t you glad you&#8217;re not one of them?<br />
NO INCUMBANTS IN &#8216;06!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483292', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dean Moriarity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Moriarity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, I will put my anti-Derbyshire credentials against anyone, especially when it comes to his complete ignorance and sophistry in economics and fiscal policy.

However....

....I don&#039;t see how his position is any different from those who would stand idly by while this kind of stuff happens in the Middle East, Africa, and SE Asia WITHOUT our intervention.  I mean, he is saying a LOT more than &quot;I love watching Arabs kill each other.&quot;  He articulates his foreign policy position, which is more of a Hamiltonian/Jeffersonian position, with a smattering of Jacksonianism mixed in.  Part of that is the notion that &quot;as long as our interests, our borders, and foreign service professionals are ok, I really don&#039;t care if these people fight amongst themselves all day long.&quot;    Now, one might take issue with the notion that we cannot be secure if there is rampant stability, but that is a different issue than the one you all are taking with Derbyshire.

Essentially, this kind of murder was what Saddam was doing prior to our invasion, and none of my liberal friends were screaming about stopping that kind of genocide, or stopping the situation in Burma or any of the many African countries in which this happens every day.  So, in that sense, &quot;inhuman callousness&quot; is a charge that can be spread around to everyone.  

There are lots of problems with the administration&#039;s lead-up to war and their management of the situation after the war.  There are many things to point out that the numbskulls at NRO have said all along the way.  Picking on this one is a bit of a stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I will put my anti-Derbyshire credentials against anyone, especially when it comes to his complete ignorance and sophistry in economics and fiscal policy.</p>
<p>However&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.I don&#8217;t see how his position is any different from those who would stand idly by while this kind of stuff happens in the Middle East, Africa, and SE Asia WITHOUT our intervention.  I mean, he is saying a LOT more than &#8220;I love watching Arabs kill each other.&#8221;  He articulates his foreign policy position, which is more of a Hamiltonian/Jeffersonian position, with a smattering of Jacksonianism mixed in.  Part of that is the notion that &#8220;as long as our interests, our borders, and foreign service professionals are ok, I really don&#8217;t care if these people fight amongst themselves all day long.&#8221;    Now, one might take issue with the notion that we cannot be secure if there is rampant stability, but that is a different issue than the one you all are taking with Derbyshire.</p>
<p>Essentially, this kind of murder was what Saddam was doing prior to our invasion, and none of my liberal friends were screaming about stopping that kind of genocide, or stopping the situation in Burma or any of the many African countries in which this happens every day.  So, in that sense, &#8220;inhuman callousness&#8221; is a charge that can be spread around to everyone.  </p>
<p>There are lots of problems with the administration&#8217;s lead-up to war and their management of the situation after the war.  There are many things to point out that the numbskulls at NRO have said all along the way.  Picking on this one is a bit of a stretch.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483291', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: renato</title>
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		<dc:creator>renato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure OBL  contemplated  the spectacle  of thousands  of   Americans dying  on 9/11  with calm composure. Nice   company  you keep there, Derb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure OBL  contemplated  the spectacle  of thousands  of   Americans dying  on 9/11  with calm composure. Nice   company  you keep there, Derb.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483247', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hardy Haberman</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/22/a-right-wing-confession/comment-page-1/#comment-483237</link>
		<dc:creator>Hardy Haberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well so much for any claims he might have to being a huminatarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well so much for any claims he might have to being a huminatarian.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483237', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zippity Doo Dah</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/22/a-right-wing-confession/comment-page-1/#comment-483235</link>
		<dc:creator>Zippity Doo Dah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what happens to the &quot;calm composure &quot; if the Iraqis get the notion that the best way to unite their country might be to turn on the foreign occupiers instead of killing each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what happens to the &#8220;calm composure &#8221; if the Iraqis get the notion that the best way to unite their country might be to turn on the foreign occupiers instead of killing each other.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=483235', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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