Administration Reports Undermine Right Wing’s Media Bashing on Iraq
Administration Reports Undermine Right Wing’s Media Bashing on Iraq
The latest White House talking point on Iraq is that the media is systematically ignoring the “good news” about the war. Secretary Rumsfeld has led the charge, and right-wing bloggers are serving as an echo chamber. Last night, Newsweek’s Richard Wolffe explained what’s going on:
At a time when…conservatives in general are feeling very disillusioned about the war and about their president, you’ve got to find something to rally around. Beating up the media is one of those.
So far, the public isn’t buying the spin: 60 percent of Americans believe that the media are reporting events in Iraq either accurately or better than they really are. And they’re right.
Eyewitness accounts both by the Bush administration and by journalists on the ground back up the media’s perspective of the chaos and refute the right-wing’s claims of journalistic neglect:
State Department Human Rights Practices report on Iraq, 3/8/06:
[A] climate of extreme violence in which people were killed for political and other reasons. … Bombings, executions, killings, kidnappings, shootings, and intimidation were a daily occurrence throughout all regions and sectors of society. An illustrative list of these attacks, even a highly selective one, could scarcely reflect the broad dimension of the violence.
U.S. Agency for International Development report on Iraq, 1/2/06:
Former regime elements, foreign fighters and Islamic extremists continue to conduct terrorist attacks with devastating effect upon Iraqi civilians.
NBC reporter, Richard Engel, “the only television news correspondent to cover the entire war in Iraq for an American television network from Baghdad,” 3/22/06:
I think the security problem is the overall story and most Iraqi’s I speak to say — actually most reporters get it wrong — it’s the situation on the ground is actually worse than the images we project on television.
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who will be the first to do a study of Fox New’s iraq war coverage namely, positive vs. negative (we all know its what Tricky Dick II: Buckshot watches)
March 23rd, 2006 at 12:59 pmThe owners of the corporate media and the powers that run the administration are one and the same and, as far as I know, have not declared war upon themselves.
The media’s job is to support the corporate party in their effort to enrich the corporations and they do it very well by endlessly repeating their talking points and filling the rest of the “news” with meaningless junk, eye candy and brain candy. If it was not for these “important†news, they might have to fill in the gaps by reporting on the recovery efforts after Katrina, losing the war in Afghanistan, poverty in the richest country in the world, how creating fear of Islam in a xenophobic population fuc*ed up the Ports deal and stifled any reasonable discussion of the merits, how far Iran is from a nuclear weapon or that the pursuit of nuclear power is Iran’s right or as long as we can keep Iran in the NPT, we will be able to monitor it’s nuclear program or our current policy of blackmail will backfire if, like India and Pakistan, they drop out of the NPT and develop their nuclear program in secret. God knows we cannot afford to go to war with Iran.
If the media was at war with the administration they would cover “junk” like this.
File the administration’s “war-on-media” under brain candy. It is nothing more than part of the Stupidization of America Project.
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:07 pmbush to amerika: “Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin’ eyes?”
(true) Americans to bush: “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you…”
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:12 pm‘And here’s the good news from Iraq………………………(roll tape)………………………..
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:15 pmand we’ll be right back after these stupid commericals.
surprise, surprise!
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:21 pmAnyone seen Hugh Hewitt on Anderson Cooper lately? If I hear one more “journalist” who isn’t in Iraq whining about how no one covers the “good news” in Iraq I am going to lose it. How much more stark can it be when Cooper has two journalists who are in Iraq talking about how bad it is and one partisan airbag back home crowing about all the good things that are happening?
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:23 pmMy name says it all!
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:23 pmWhat I find so amusing about Our Clueless Leader and His Band of Merry Fuckups constantly blaming the media is that it’s all a myth.
But don’t take my word for it — take that of an Army Colonel.
Truth is, it’s the policies themselves, not the media, that decide public support for war. If the policies are more sound, then logic dictates that the reporting will be more positive.
And when the policy sucks, it stands to reason that the media will report that.
Pretty simple, and yet another thing the current leadership just doesn’t understand.
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:26 pm“…60 percent of Americans believe that the media are reporting events in Iraq either accurately or better than they really are.”
Of coarse they think this they get their info from the media. How could they know differently?
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:26 pmwhat Tricky Dick II: BuckShot is watching:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/22.html#a7622
video here
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:28 pmUnfortunately, despite the best efforts from thie Administration, many of the brave soldiers who go to Iraq manage to survive and return, and they’re letting people know just how bad it is over there, True, making them repeat tours of duty as a stop-gap measure insures they can’t tell as many people as they might like to, but if they’re home for any length of time, they have a bad habit of telling the truth about how things are so screwed up. I’m sure some people in the Administration* wish more soldiers would die in battle so word CAN’T get out, but hey, they’re trained to survive, what are you gonna do?
And despite the best efforts of the media to paint the war as a rousing success for so long, the word-of-mouth from the military about this war and the consequences it brings is leaving them with no choice but to actually try to report the news. Some of them are so rusty at it that it would be laughable if the news weren’t so friggin’ sad.
This Administration got a free pass for a good long time. They weren’t (and often, still aren’t) being asked tough questions from the media. They still have diehard members of the Party who honestly believe a vote for a Democrat insures them a one-way ticket to H-E-Double Hockey Sticks and no amount of healthy debate or Thorazine will dissuade them from their rigid mentality, to even question our policies or policymakers.
This Administration never had a plan that benefitted this country, they had a goal that benefitted Bush’s base: Get the oil, get the money, start an economy that would be reliant on American products and American defense and watch the money roll in. And they thought they could bully their way into that sort of infrastructure the same way robber barons started their empires in past generations. They failed. And now they got nothing else but propaganda and lies. And soldiers who have a nasty habit of surviving.
slappy magoo
* “straw man” arguments-not just for Republicans anymore!
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:34 pmmy bad:
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:35 pmhttp://movies.crooksandliars.com/fox_iraq_media_bobdole_060322a_320×240b.wmv
Hey troll – What do you expect the media to report?
Today, the Bahgdad hospital had electricity for 1 1/2 hours today rather than the usual 1 hour of electricity.
Today, there was running water for 3 hours today, versus the usual 1 hour of running water.
Today, there was electricity for 40% of the country, versus the 25% that usually have electricity.
What progress do you expect them to report???? There literally is NO PROGRESS!
I look at news from many media outlets on the web, and not ONE has good news. You can say that the people are free, but if they can’t walk their streets due to fear of being blown up, then what freedom do they really have?
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:36 pmSOON THE TIDE WILL TURN AGAINST THE MEDIA MANIPULATION OF THE bush-cheney-rumsfeld-rice-wolfowitz-gonzalez-rove…ruling junta.
AS ‘WETHE PEOPLEEND THE STANDOFF BY CHOOSING TO STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS, WE WILL FIND THAT THE JUNTA CAN BE STOOD DOWN.
In fact, we Will STAND DOWN the rove-cheney-rumsfeld-(bush)-…junta.
The PEOPLE will STAND UP.
The junta will stand down.
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:37 pmHere’s one of Hewitt’s comments from last night:
HEWITT: Their major complaint is that the insurgents are playing the media like a bongo drum and that they have become to become enamored with the idea that they can drive America from the field by creating enough chaos and enough media shots to weaken the will of the American people to persist in the liberation of Iraq.
I think they’re overprocessing this one just a tad. Insurgents are creating media shots? Insurgents are trying to change the opinion of average Americans? The President decides how long we stay in Iraq, not the American people’s opinions. It’s absolutely absurd.
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:38 pm“The President decides how long we stay in Iraq, not the American people’s opinions.”
WRONG!
When the American people voice their stance on bringing the troops home, then that will happen. The Congress can and will stop funding for the war and the president will have no choice but to bring the troops home if this happens.
So the American people do decide the timeline. We will not sit by and let this go on for another 3 years!
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:41 pmI find it interesting that the White House spinners don’t support their accusations of negative media coverage by detailing all of the good that is going on. GI Joe giving out a couple handfuls of candy to kids doesn’t make it all even. Do our troops finally have better armor (body and tank) now?
What is the state of power supply (electricity), sanitation, unemployment, roads, health care, education, oil supply, goodwill to America (grin) now versus under Saddam?
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:42 pmi was simply commenting on the poll. I have not been to Iraq but from what I hear schools are opening, women have greater rights, in general the population is happy to be rid of Saddam, some construction is being compleated, the Iraq army is slowly gaining ground, business is doing well, ect
It does seem that the MSM could report some of this.
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:44 pmhere is some positive iraqi news link
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:49 pmWhen WE, THE PEOPLE stand up for our rights,
the (bush)-cheney-rumsfeld-rove-rice-wolfowitz-gonzalez…junta will stand down.
It is that simple.
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:56 pmWow. I linked over to that exposetheleft blog.
The comments are still spitting out the long-debunked comparison of deaths in Iraq and deaths in California. (If you haven’t seen this one, they fail to account for the fact that the # of troops in Iraq is 3/1000th the population of CA…)
My brain hurts!
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:56 pmOk, if we are making progress, I want quantification.
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:57 pmHow many schools did we build last week (as compared to the week before)?
How much oil did the country pump?
How long was electricity on in Bagdhad?
How many miles of roads were rebuilt?
How many Iraqi policeman were trained? Military troops?
Show me some numbers that say life is better now in Iraq than before we invaded and I’ll be convinced we’re making progress.
Otherwise, it looks like were throwing money into a pit
When Fox News cannot find good news to cover in Iraq, even during a program designed to stress the the progress in Iraq, you know for sure that there IS no good news in Iraq.
In Republican speak, why does Fox News hate the Bush Administration so much?
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:58 pmwhich is really more important, children blowing up ballons, or 60 peoople per day dieing?
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:59 pm“I hear schools are opening”
And why were they closed??? Oh that’s right we attacked Iraq.
“women have greater rights”
You must have this country confussed with Afganistan? The women, in general, have the same rights that they had before.
“in general the population is happy to be rid of Saddam”
OK, but many of them would rather have him back than be in the situation they are in now.
“some construction is being compleated”
Really? Like what? Every time we start to build something it gets destroyed.
“the Iraq army is slowly gaining ground”
Is that why they went from 1 batallion to 0 who could operate without US support?
“business is doing well, ect”
Like what business? Oil production is down from pre-war levels, which is the reason we went to war to begin with so that this would happen and would jack up the price of gass and make billions for Bushes buddies, not for the oil per-say.
Provide the evidence to your claims. I have heard all of these talking points as well, but the pictures tell the truth. Just like “we don’t torcher”, but all those pictures and videos tell a different story.
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:01 pmThat was beautiful. *clap* Seriously … they are questions that need to be asked.
Too bad no one the right will bother to answer you, because they don’t have that information because it doesn’t support their argument.
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:03 pmYesterday on NPR it was reported that the doctors in the hospitals in Iraq will onlly work on patients who have at least a 70% chance of survival. They do not have enough equipment and supplies to assist the rest.
Where’s the good news there?
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:03 pmRich
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:13 pmI dont know the answer to those questions but we all know how many bombs went off. I think if we deserve to know about the reports of James Hansen on global warming we also have a right to know the answers to these questions. Its a matter of consistency, we demand the whole truth from President Bush shouldn’t we demand the same from the media?
That is the problem Troll, we are not getting the truth from Bush. Are you now or have you ever been in Iraq? How are you so sure the truth is not being reported?
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:15 pmOMG – my bad – using Bush and truth in the same sentence, what a joke!
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:16 pmSee no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil makes a Bush presidency and this country a happy nation.
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:17 pmbut, but, this guy has “brought back several DVDs full of wonderful footage of reconstruction, of medical things going on”…
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:20 pmyea…you’d think with his “job while serving was as a broadcast journalist” we’ll be seing that footage oh, weeks ago at least…not?
i mean, the pentagon is paying for this stuff, i thought…not?
“climate of extreme violence in which people were killed for political and other reasons. … Bombings, executions, killings, kidnappings, shootings, and intimidation were a daily occurrence throughout all regions and sectors of society. An illustrative list of these attacks, even a highly selective one, could scarcely reflect the broad dimension of the violence.”
That sounds exactly like a typical day in any Blue state big city.
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:22 pm#33 – if that is the case at least it is honest journalism – unlike what Bush would ever want to see.
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:23 pmyeah IdumSh!tI
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:25 pmname the big city with EXECUTIONs, BOMBINGS.
contribute something useful – not assinine
stfu troll
“We’re Makin’ Progress” is now #4 on the list of “Top 10 GOP Sound Bites.”
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:29 pm#1 the image of Bob Dole on Faux news trying to say the madia is not reporting things as they are in Iraq is pretty funny. It’s a shot of Bob on the left side of the screen and the right side is playing footage of a bombing in Iraq. Pretty much sums it up right there.
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:41 pmABC claims tha most of the viewers (?) they have heard from is blaming the media , for reporting bias news on Iraq. We know that 60% of americans are opposed now to the war , do not trust W. and do not believe in the propaganda we hear .
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:47 pmThey must be bucking under the pressure of an organized attack .
If this is true , so much for american journalism . What happen to the Morrows , Cronkites of to day , are they all whores .?
By God, if the Carlisle Group owned some media,
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:47 pmwe’d be getting good news!
How may reporter boots are on the ground in Iraq for Fox?
Oh wait! NONE. They use ‘mind melds’ with our superior
officers which allows them to see the good things we’re doing
w/o the expense of being there.
‘You’re doing a heckuva job, Rupie’
Troll,
Whatever good is happening in Iraq is overshadowed by the daily barrage of awfully bad stories coming out of that country. Like this one today, from the Guardian:
The headquarters of the anti-terrorist unit in Baghdad was today targeted in a wave of bomb attacks that left at least 56 people dead.
A suicide car bomber struck at the building in the capital’s central Karradah district, killing 10 civilians and 15 policeman.
It was the third major assault on a security compound in as many days. Officials at the site investigate major crimes, and had about 20 suspected insurgents in their custody.
More than 35 people, mainly employees at the unit, were wounded, officials added.
Baghdad bomb attacks kill 56
An anti-terrorist unit bombed? Is anyone safe?
You are not asking not for news (good or bad), but for propaganda: You want reporters to ignore reality and tell you what you want to hear.
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:49 pmI have a number of friends who are currently serving in Iraq, and my friend was the Deputy Directory of Media Affairs in Iraq until the end of last year.
We are not hearing all the good news, NOR are we hearing all the bad news.
How many times do you hear about mortars landing in the green zone? They get at least 3-4 on a monthly basis. This is the so-called green zone in Baghdad, where we’re supposed to have the most control over the insurgents.
When Saddam came into power, he changed the Muslin rules about women having to wear the burkha and they were able to own property and hold jobs for the first tiems in their lives. This was how Saddam was able to consolidate his power, by getting the majority of the people on his side. Once he acquired power, he started killing the people he felt would threaten his rule. Now, however, many women ar afraid to go outside without a chaperone or they might be held by local Muslim men who want to bring back the pre-Saddam burkha laws.
How many times do you hear about the soldiers helping out the people in smaller villages get the food and medical help they desperately need? This happens more than is being reported in America.
How many times do you hear about how Iraqis die because the power was out when they were being operated on? This happens more than is being reported in America.
How many times do you hear about soldiers being helped out by citizens when searching for insurgents? This happens more than is being reported in America.
No matter how good/bad you think the reporting is, we are NOT getting the whole story. Basically, the MSM is not doing their job because they’re afraid of being kidnapped or contradicting the official “spin” from the Bush administration.
March 23rd, 2006 at 2:53 pmIf 50 people per day were getting killed by car bombs in America I’d want to hear about it. The administration however would rather that you knew schools were open n the midwest again after a big snowfall.
March 23rd, 2006 at 3:06 pm#6, I saw Cooper last night. I was appalled that he was giving air time to the conservative radio host who was outright saying the reporter in Iraq was lying about his ability to get around the country. It’s sad that the media is giving this any coverage. NBC actually did a story on how tough it is to do stories in Iraq.
#22, I’d love to see Lou Dobbs or Keith Olbermann take up that challenge. On every program, they could run through the daily list of electricity availability, oil production, school rebuilding, amount of candy passed out to kids, etc. They want the good reported? Let’s report it. We’ll show there’s not as much good as they want everyone to believe when those stats are updated every day. Keith could include it with his number of days since mission accomplished was declared at the end of each show.
March 23rd, 2006 at 3:16 pmlisten, i gotta say it’s disingenuous continually to use this statistic. from the numbers, you could just as easily say that 66 percent of Americans believe that the media are reporting events in Iraq either accurately or worse than they really are. Come on guys. I believe in the cause, but there are enough validly damning statistics that you needn’t craft your own.
March 23rd, 2006 at 3:31 pm#25
“OK, but many of them would rather have him back than be in the situation they are in now.”
Of course those that back the insurgents and the terrorists would.
“Provide the evidence to your claims.”
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2006/20060210_4182.html
http://news.thomasnet.com/IMT/archives/2006/02/engineering_ira.html?t=calendar
http://www.export.gov/iraq/pdf/pco_update_020606.pdf
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/crawford200603070834.asp
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/accomplishments/success_stories_0206.html
BTW after WW2 ended how long did it take Germany to get back to pre-war conditions in regards to infrastructure? How many years did American forces occupy Germany after the war ended?
How about getting some information from the troops about the progress?
March 23rd, 2006 at 3:36 pmHas anyone noticed that Faux News online has changed their moniker from “Fair and Balanced” to “We Report. You Decide”? Shouldn’t it be “We Distort. You Swallow”?
March 23rd, 2006 at 3:38 pm“[A] climate of extreme violence in which people were killed for political and other reasons. … Bombings, executions, killings, kidnappings, shootings, and intimidation were a daily occurrence throughout all regions and sectors of society.”
Gosh, that “climate” sounds like Newark or Detroit…or (fill in your favourite center of urban blight).
March 23rd, 2006 at 3:40 pmSo when the left was beating up the media because they basically served as a mouthpiece to the administration leading into the Iraq war, without debate, exit plan, peace plan, armor for the troops, etc., that didn’t matter.
Does the media only cares when the right is beating it up.
What about when the media showed the HHS propaganda, as if it were real news. Of course the administration pawned it off as real news. I suppose then the administration didn’t have a problem.
Where does that Jeff Ganon person fit into all this media bashing? As a non-journalist he was allowed into the WH briefing and meeting. He would ask off-handed, slap-the-left, softball questions. I suppose the administration didn’t have a problem with that either.
So as long as the journalists are fake, and the administration has a hand in the making of the propaganda, oops, news footage, they are fine. HHHmmm. Media bashing is a desperate political tactic.
In order for their lies to work, they know they need to control the media outlets. Better watch out for more media consolidation coming… :-(
March 23rd, 2006 at 3:44 pm#41 – “We are not hearing all the good news, NOR are we hearing all the bad news….
March 23rd, 2006 at 3:45 pm…How many times do you hear about the soldiers helping out the people in smaller villages get the food and medical help they desperately need? This happens more than is being reported in America.
…How many times do you hear about how Iraqis die because the power was out when they were being operated on? This happens more than is being reported in America.
…How many times do you hear about soldiers being helped out by citizens when searching for insurgents? This happens more than is being reported in America.”
- Comment by DemSoldier
****We agree on SOMETHING!!! Have we agreed on ANYTHING before????
“Gosh, that “climate†sounds like Newark or Detroit…or (fill in your favourite center of urban blight). Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
Really, is that what you believe? You’ve been picking up the ‘old’ leaflets from the reichwing propaganda sites – the Detroit comparisons were dropped MONTHS ago when people realized that IEDs aren’t the norm in Detroit – and the violence and murder levels are several magnitudes greater in Iraq.
I guess you forgot to get the memo mighty moron – this post is as retarded as you are! Bhahahahaha
March 23rd, 2006 at 3:57 pmWell Dem Soldier.
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:01 pmI would prefer the armed forces help the people in America .In Mississippi , during Katrina A/F personel were playing volley ball , having a good time in Base at Biloxi while the population needed help. The NG in LA was inadequate , their equipments were in Iraq , while the man and Equip. could have been use . The NG from out of state were 3to 5 days to reach LA ,only after public outrage and weak political respone. Let us serve America first here at home , not for some pipe dream of a disfunctional and down right insane administration.
Here’s something ThinkProgress should write about.
JABBS has a post about a U.S. soldier blogging from Iraq and complaining that he’s being “fed nothing but propaganda.â€
Sound familiar?
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:02 pmit’s worse, really…aphro stole that line from iris 33…
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:06 pm#48 in the begining I read a story about how many millions of inoculations were being given out how businesses were openening and schools openeing etc… Then I read that the WHO reported that incoulations were occuring at a higher rate prior to the invasion. I read that businesses and schools were reopening not because Sadaam had closed them down, but because they closed because we were bombing them. Since you and the president seem to know of all the good out there why not elaborate? Heck the president has the opportunity every day to go before the press and spread the news, yet for some reason he does not…why? All I hear from him are buzz words, progress victory, resolve, sut and run, Al Queda/9/11 etc… why does he not use the power of his office to spread the word?
While we are at it. It takes about 30 seconds for some lie, like John Kerry shot himslef to criss cross the globe 10 times once Rove gives the goahead with the smear. Why do the republicans themselves not use their smear machine to spread this voluminous good news that the media is supposedly not presenting? With your extensive ties to the military and legal communities why don’t you spread the news?
Fox news is the official news network of the republican party, why are they not spreading this good news? Heck you would think that they would show footage of flower gardens and popcile stands every day, yet they don’t. They choose to juxtipose a car bombing image behind Bob Dole while he is speaking about the good news.
I think i can tell you why, it’s pretty obvious, the good news does nto exist in the quantities that you think it does.
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:08 pm#9 troll, their news is bought and paid for by Rummy and the gang, just like the shit you listen to.
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:08 pmit’s called the “War in Iraq” for a goddamn reason. It’s not the “Holiday in Iraq.” What do people expect, fucking roses and happy puppy dogs? Its still a goddamn war, even if Bush declared “major combat operations” finished under a banner of “Mission Accomplished.”
Its a goddamn war people. Wake up Cons. Wake the f’ up.
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:13 pmYou must have this country confussed with Afganistan? The women, in general, have the same rights that they had before.
If you read Baghdad Burning, it sounds like less rights for women, as the Shiite political parties are enforcing a stricter adherence to Sharia.
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:25 pmI dont know the answer to those questions but we all know how many bombs went off.
The old “if it bleeds, it leads.” Nothing new about that, and to expect otherwise would be foolish.
I think if we deserve to know about the reports of James Hansen on global warming we also have a right to know the answers to these questions.
Ahh, now you are getting into tricky territory. Why haven’t we heard Hansen’s reports? Not his interview on “60 minutes,” but his actual reports? Hmmm, I detect a hint of hypocrisy wafting from the GOP/White House attacking the press for not telling the story you want to hear, but then censoring government reports that tell what you don’t want heard.
Its a matter of consistency, we demand the whole truth from President Bush shouldn’t we demand the same from the media?
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:34 pmIf the media had done that three years ago, we wouldn’t be in Iraq, so be careful what you wish for. They may actually start doing it one of these days, but I’m not holding my breath. For the press or Bush being honest.
To everyone here: Do not respond to IRI. He/she is only here to derail the topic and denigrate Dems/liberals/progressives/people who can think for themselves without being told what to think by Limbaugh/Savage(Weiner)/Hannity/O’Really(?). Responding only encourages, and there is absolutely nothing to be gained from it.
Thanks.
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:40 pm#52- katy, The generous I-R-I was assuming that Dems and progs actually KNOW which states are Blue. According to recent polling of Feingold’s censure proposal, only 32% of Dems actually KNOW who Russ Feingold IS. I am merely trying to assist the geographically challenged with the specification of certain urban areas – translation: “not bright people”.
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:49 pmThe generous I-R-I was assuming that Dems and progs actually KNOW which states are Blue.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — March 23, 2006 @ 4:49 pm
Uh-oh, IRI, looks like a certain drag queen has a crush on you…
March 23rd, 2006 at 4:57 pm“I am merely trying to assist the geographically challenged with the specification of certain urban areas – translation: “not bright peopleâ€. Comment by mighty aphrodite”
The blind leading the blind – now THAT’s COMEDY!
Bahaha – a stupid propagandist ‘educating’ progressives – AHAHAHAHAHAHA
March 23rd, 2006 at 5:01 pmHey Mighty Moron,
You forgot the polling that showed most americans are FOR censure – once again you and your fellow shortbus crowd missed the boat. It’s like Schaivo, Katrina, the Iraq War and Dubai all over again. It must take a lot of fortitude to be wrong EVERY TIME, and keep on plugging. Some might call it ‘persistence’ and ’strength’, smart poeple see it as retarded stubbornness – much like your chimp in chief possesses.
March 23rd, 2006 at 5:04 pmI see Troll and Right I’s and Mighty-what’s-her-face have revealed themselves as the ignorant racists thinking people have always known them to be . This BS about baghdad being anything like a “blue state big city” is exactly the kind of non sequitur, patently false vomitus that all who are afraid of brown-skinned people end up leaking when they get heated up. the three of you are extreme discredits to the human race. move to texas and marry your first cousins and leave the civilized world alone – F’ing pathetic.
March 23rd, 2006 at 5:04 pmf’kin trolls come in here and have to post to one another because their blogs don’t allow comments…you’d think they would start up their own so they can talk back and forth without us distracting them from their daily talking points, but noooo, they have to come here day after day and look f’kin stupid…it must be for a paycheck
March 23rd, 2006 at 5:08 pmI would like to thank the right-wing trolls. Seriously … they serve as a reminder of everything that is wrong with the world: hate, bigotry, destruction, hypocrisy and of course, radical religious thought.
Without them, there would be no need for progressives.
So thank you to each and every troll on this site for showing what it is about the conservative movement that has made more than 2 out of every 3 Americans hate you so much.
March 23rd, 2006 at 5:36 pmwell said # 65
March 23rd, 2006 at 5:53 pmWelcome back Ryan Neat
It is so horrible in Iraq that the PAID-OFF Media/Press cannot cover it all up for the Bush Regime any longer! There is NO stories of success in Iraq to report, just acts of violence and carnage and mayhem!
March 23rd, 2006 at 5:56 pmDear Liberated Unmarried Spinster (aka unbelievable) – Obviously, you have no men friends – I can see why….
March 23rd, 2006 at 6:06 pmTom Baker – If those urban centers are so fabulous – go LIVE there….buy your own body armour.
March 23rd, 2006 at 6:08 pm[...] Think Progress [...]
March 23rd, 2006 at 6:11 pm“Dear Liberated Unmarried Spinster (aka unbelievable) – Obviously, you have no men friends – I can see why…. Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
I’ve heard better lesbian come-ons than this, really weak Mighty Moron is all I can say.
“Tom Baker – If those urban centers are so fabulous – go LIVE there….buy your own body armour. Comment by mighty aphrodite”
Bahaha, ironic coming from someone who ‘claims’ to live in southern california. What part of your bio did you forget again? Oh wait, the part that implicates you as being a retarded hypocrite! Bahaha, you’re really BAD at this whole troll thing aren’t you? You aren’t funny. You aren’t likable. You aren’t knowledgable. You aren’t smart. You aren’t educated. You aren’t articulate. And you aren’t sophisticated. No wonder you hate the ‘liberal elite’ and the ‘blue states’ so much – we’re everything you arent, and everything you wish and dream of being. Insecure as a child, now insecure as an adult, some things never change with losers like you do they?
March 23rd, 2006 at 6:23 pm#58; By reading IRI’s’ rantings on various threads, one can figure the REAL reason why he’s not in the army. He must have scored so low on his aptitude test, that they classified him category V, meaning he’s the DUMBEST OF THE DUMB.
March 23rd, 2006 at 6:34 pmWhen the American people voice their stance on bringing the troops home, then that will happen. The Congress can and will stop funding for the war and the president will have no choice but to bring the troops home if this happens.
Call me cynical, but I think this is naive. First of all, the people aren’t motivated because the war is being fought by other people’s kids and the ones who are motivated enough to protest get denigrated as “hippy-dippy kids.” Without a draft, the majority of people will not be motivated enough to get out of their SUVs and drop the XBox long enough to do anything outside of what gives them immediate pleasure. They feel bad about the war and want it to stop but they aren’t going to change their lives until the war directly effects them.
Congress is still in bed with Bush, they aren’t going to cut funding. It’ll be under a different administration before any substantial number of our kids come home and then we’ll be occupying those mega-bases we’ve been building in Iraq with “reconstruction” money.
March 23rd, 2006 at 6:37 pmOh, BTW IRI, there may be hope for you yet. The army lowered the qualifications to take category IV people, they may even get desperate to lower the standards again in order to accept category V(THAT’S YOU DUMBO).
March 23rd, 2006 at 6:37 pmHo Chi Minh,
I-RIGHT-I has confessed that the military wouldn’t take him:
They wouldn’t let me near automatic weapons and high explosives so instead I went to school and later helped design one of the weapons systems that makes us invincible on the field of battle.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — March 21, 2006 @ 5:49 pm
What are the reasons people are not allowed near explosives and weapons again? I can’t recall… hhmmm…..
March 23rd, 2006 at 6:43 pm[...] While the Adminisration accuses the media of ommitting “good news” about the war from its reports, 60% of the public believes the media is reporting accurately or making the situation look better than it actually is. (Think Progress) Richard Engle submitted a report in which he states that “the situation on the ground is actually worse than the images we project on tv.” [...]
March 23rd, 2006 at 8:29 pmTO all, ever notice how much IRI rants and raves about gays and liberals? Nearly every sentence. He’s so obsessed that he must be a closet homo and a closet liberal, but is too embarrassed to come out of the closet.
March 23rd, 2006 at 8:33 pmMighty Afro, how many car bombs went off today in Detroit? Oh, none. Thats what I thought. Your stupidity knows no bounds. I wish the fleas of a thousand camels would infest your genitals!
March 23rd, 2006 at 8:36 pmWe’ve already debunked mighty moron as a (un)’professional’ troll. (s)he’s just another ‘ho’ for the reichwing fascist party -otherwise known as the 4th reich.
March 23rd, 2006 at 8:48 pmA comment on the Trolls. These folks are quick with their snotty little autotext barbs and insults but mighty slow with anything of substance relating to the themes of the threads. Might that be because they have no rational defense for the miserable performance of the Bush administration? It’s a dirty thankless job to stick up for the Bush/Cheney neocon fiasco, but I guess somebody has to do it.
On the thread, the media is due some righteous criticism for giving in and sucking up to the administration instead fulfilling its proper role of watchdog and critic. E. Murrow must be turning over in his grave.
March 23rd, 2006 at 8:50 pmStill waiting for the MSM to show pictures of returning body bags, excuse me, transfer tubes.
Still waiting for a prime time interview with an armless or legless vet, back from the imperialist Iraqi War OF Terror, War of Choice, to steal Iraqi oil revenues and U.S. tax dollars.
It should not be too hard to find at least one casualty to appear on TV, there’s only about 17,000 of them by now.
March 23rd, 2006 at 9:09 pmi agree everything is great in iraq,, everything is coming up roses ;;;lets get our 1/2 trillion back and get the hell out
March 24th, 2006 at 1:43 am[...] But now we get to the worst of this entire Presidential Performance and that is the unwillingness to accept responsibility for the lack of accomplishment by his administration. With people losing faith in the ability of this administration Bush is now relying on theatrics and propaganda to increase support for his efforts in Iraq rather than performance. But worst of all, Bush blames the media for his declining stock in trade for presenting “nothing but bad news.” He pretends that what the journalists report actually changes the security situation on the ground and that they are responsible for these conditions rather than his administration. If only they would report the good news all the bad news would not exist. And as so many times in the past he uses the same modus operandi, repeat, repeat, repeat, and repeat the talking points some more; wind up all the right wing talking heads and get them connected to Karl Rove’s fax machine, and make your presentation in front of the same handpicked supporters who would not raise a serious question about the conduct of the war if their entire family had just been wiped out. Repeat a lie often enough and eventually they will believe it. A tactic straight out of he Goebels playbook. This scheme did not work for social security and enough people are now enough aware of what is happening in Iraq that it will not happen with this either. When does Bush accept that he set in motion the train of events that are now being played out in Iraq? And when does he lay out the concrete measures he is taking to change the situation so that we might actually see he is making progress? Because, absent improved security conditions, improved oil production, improving infrastructure, and progress to establishing an Iraqi government that will actually be able to rule the country, painting all the classrooms in Iraq twice a year will not bring our soldiers home one day sooner. [...]
March 24th, 2006 at 3:05 amActor Charlie Sheen has recently come out publically saying the U.S. government not only knew that 9/11 was going to happen, but that they ORCHESTRATED the attacks. Many of us in the blogosphere have known this for years, but now, finally, someone with a TV show that attracts 10 million viewers per night is speaking out. We finally have our voice.
In an amazing turn of events, Charlie Sheen’s statements have gotten the attention of CNN’s Showbiz Tonight, and their host, A.J. Hammer, and Infowars.com host (and radio host) Alex Jones, considered the world’s foremost authority on Bush’s criminal cabal, was featrued on CNN last night (March 23, 2006) for a full 20 MINUTES.
A.J. Hammer and Showbiz Tonight have a poll up right now on CNN.com, in fact, that asks, “Do you agree with Charlie Sheen that the U.S. government covered up the real events of the 9/11 attacks,” and the percentage of people saying “yes” has been going up steadily. At the time of this writing, 82% of over 13,000 people say yes, the government is covering up the real story – in other words, that “Bush did it.”
PLEASE GO TO CNN.COM AND VOTE IN THEIR POLL, AND LET THEM KNOW WE’RE NOT TAKING THEIR LIES AND BULLSHIT ANYMORE.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight/
This is our chance to garner MSM attention for the truth, people! Please do all you can, and send the links to all your friends and family!
March 24th, 2006 at 11:36 amhttp://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight/
#85 – Mr 5150 says, “Repeat a lie often enough and eventually they will believe it. A tactic straight out of he Goebels playbook.”
*****Congratulations! It sounds like you’ve mastered the “repeated lie” tactic.
March 24th, 2006 at 12:48 pm#85 – Mr 5150 says, “Repeat a lie often enough and eventually they will believe it. A tactic straight out of he Goebels playbook.â€
*****Congratulations! It sounds like you’ve mastered the “repeated lie†tactic.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — March 24, 2006 @ 12:48 pm
Uh, Magda… Might wanna think before you type…
“You Have To Keep Repeating Things To Catapult The Propaganda”
- George W. Bush, May 26 2005
We were graced with a new Bushism on Tuesday this week but it seems to have conveniently slipped under the radar.
President Bush gave a talk at the Athena Performing Arts Center at Greece Athena Middle and High School Tuesday, May 24, 2005 in Rochester, NY. Bush traveled to Rochester, trying to win support for his proposed overhaul of the Social Security system.
About half way through the event Bush came out with this pearler.
“See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”
March 24th, 2006 at 12:54 pmWhat are the reasons people are not allowed near explosives and weapons again? I can’t recall… hhmmm…..
Comment by Gregor Samsa — March 23, 2006 @ 6:43 pm
You’re too funny…
March 24th, 2006 at 12:56 pmDear Liberated Unmarried Spinster (aka unbelievable) – Obviously, you have no men friends – I can see why….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — March 23, 2006 @ 6:06 pm
Are you ever right, on anything?
The large majority of my friends are men. (Hint: I grew up with brothers.)
FYI, ‘Unmarried’ is not an insult to liberal women. We’re proud that we can survive life without a father figure to tell us what to do or what to think. We’re not pathetic and needy. When we do get married, it is for love and not for an allowance or a sperm donor.
March 24th, 2006 at 1:02 pm#90 – “We’re proud that we can survive life without a father figure…” – unbelievable
*****MAYBE that’s your problem….quit thinking of a husband as a “father figure”. God, that’s TOO weird to even comptemplate….
March 24th, 2006 at 2:04 pm*****MAYBE that’s your problem….quit thinking of a husband as a “father figureâ€. God, that’s TOO weird to even comptemplate….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — March 24, 2006 @ 2:04 pm
Who else goes to work while you don’t, pays the mortgage, gives you spending money and tell syou how to behave? For the Neocons, it’s EXACTLY what it is. And that’s not my problem… it’s your side of the fence’s.
March 24th, 2006 at 3:30 pmCharlie Sheen gets 911 in the open!
Watch video!
Let there be peace!
Nexus.
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