VIDEO: Fox News Relentlessly Pushing ‘Media Ignores Good News In Iraq’ Talking Point
By on Mar 27th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
VIDEO: Fox News Relentlessly Pushing ‘Media Ignores Good News In Iraq’ Talking Point
In the last week, there has been incessant complaining on Fox News that the media is too negative in its reporting about Iraq. Watch this compilation of video clips from the last six days:
Fox News is the most watched cable news network. If everyone there is so concerned about the “media” ignoring all the good news in Iraq, why don’t they stop complaining and start reporting it?
UPDATE: NewsHounds has more examples.
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They don’t actually do any reporting. They are the Pravda of the Republican party.
March 27th, 2006 at 4:38 pmHey Bill… you know what they say. If you want a job done right….
Head on over, Bill, and show these reporters how it’s done.
March 27th, 2006 at 4:39 pmGood point. I want to see Bill O’Reilly, in the blue body armor and helmet, reporting on location at the next school opening.
They want others to do the war reporting for them, just like actually fighting the war, too.
March 27th, 2006 at 4:40 pmFascinating. Not ONE Fox anchor/pundit knows that “media” is a plural word - yet these uneducated honkheads use it as a singular word. Great brains over there.
March 27th, 2006 at 4:42 pmc’mon guys, Bill O, hannity, and the rest are “fighting the war at home”. you can’ t expect these guys to go to a war zone. even a peachy keen one like Iraq. Now reporting live from aruba that’s important.
March 27th, 2006 at 4:44 pmImus had a funny line this morning when McCord was rattling off the latest bloodshed and body count in Iraq. He asked, “Aren’t there any crafts shows to report on? Why are you ignoring the good news.” Then McCord repeated the body count and Imus said, “Yeah — I guess that is a little more important than craft shows.”
March 27th, 2006 at 4:45 pmThen why doesn’t O’Liely take that valuable time to actually cover the good news himself, instead of using it to ‘negatively print bad news about the media’. After all, isn’t that the same kind of ‘negative reporting’ that O’Liely is accusing others of? Why isn’t he reporting all of the ‘good news’ about what the media is getting right?
Reichwingers are such morons.
March 27th, 2006 at 4:47 pmInstead of showing photos of O’Liar, could we just use an avatar - like Sideshow Bob or that evil baby from Family guy? That way we’ll all know who we’re referencing and no one will get hurt looking directly at his smug puss. Creeps me out too much…
March 27th, 2006 at 4:48 pm16 people executed. On the other hand, two rooms were painted!
March 27th, 2006 at 4:50 pmWon’t someone just leak “the memo” on this one?
March 27th, 2006 at 4:52 pmIts not News. Its Oprah Winfrey Politics and nothing more than he said vs they said. No Debate. No Objectivity.
Nothing but Colorful Euphemisms of Blame.
Example of Rush/Faux News/Neo-Con speak.
“The number of drug related deaths in America have Risen in the last few years. Well Folks, the Fact is that the Liberals did this. That Pill didn’t just roll up to their Desk say hello and jump into their Mouths. No. The FACT is that Liberal Hollywood has brought these drugs, thru their movies, into the World.
March 27th, 2006 at 4:53 pmThe Liberal Media, Reports Prove, Have Cause more drug Addcitions than any other Source of Influence. And that Ladies and Gentleman you can take to the bank.” –Rush/Robertson/Hannity/Coulter ++
[All the Same style of Blame Speech]
Bill’s dome just keeps growing . . . .
March 27th, 2006 at 4:55 pmSoon to explode while he’s spewing more garbage on fox neeeewwwws.
Isn’t FOX the media? Are they saying that they themselves are doing a poor job? Like I said last week, if the administration wants all the good news to get out surely they can come up with some to spread about. The vast right wing media machine seems to have the ability to spread a smear faster than the speed of light you would think they could spread all this good news.
March 27th, 2006 at 4:59 pm[sung to sponge bob]
Filth O’Lielly Media Rants!
We Cant Hear You!!
Filth O’Lielly Racist Rants!
Whats slimy as Hell
and Smells like a Fish?
Flops on the deck
And Lies like Feck!
Filth O’Lielly Propaganda Rants!
March 27th, 2006 at 4:59 pmIt is frightening.
It is frightening that Fox News, the only media outlet that is solidly behind the misadventure in Iraq and is constantly telling us all how well we are doing there, cannot find a single good-news-from-Iraq story to present. Come on now - not even a single story to show the kind of story the rest of the MSM is ignoring?
That’s frightening.
March 27th, 2006 at 4:59 pmTHIS JUST IN…
FAUX NEWS RELENTLESSLY PUSHING “WE OFFER FAIR AND BALANCED NEWS AS LONG IT’S PRO-BUSH” TALKING POINTS.
March 27th, 2006 at 5:02 pmHamster Brain, you crack me up. You can’t possibly believe this shit. Hilarious!
March 27th, 2006 at 5:02 pmThis is like the War on Christmas don’t you see?
Just Change the Name to Media.
The only ones who seem to care are Pundits and Polticians
March 27th, 2006 at 5:02 pmWhat a lineup of crap!
The war on terror is now the media war?
What are their incentives for such idiocy?
Bill and his Faux gang of propagandists are the lone incentive for war.
What a lineup of crap!
March 27th, 2006 at 5:04 pmI believe whatever King George Tells me.
March 27th, 2006 at 5:06 pmWho would believe that?
Shhssshhhh
March 27th, 2006 at 5:08 pmThe Olielly Media Security may hear yall.
Pretend you Believe it. Shhhh.
Laura Ingraham spent 10 days hobnobbing with the troops at Camp Casey and a real convoy ride from there to the heavily fortified Green Zone, where she was wined and dined by General Casey. She also got to shoot some paper targets at a shooting range which was a lot of fun for her. Now she is an expert on military operations and the Bush/Rummy plan of achieving victory.
Here are her pictures from the front lines as proof:
Of course, that is a hell of a lot closer to any action than fellow warhawk and Vietnan Draftdodger Bill O’Really has gotten to combat.
March 27th, 2006 at 5:09 pm“Fox News is the most watched cable news network. If everyone there is so concerned about the “media†ignoring all the good news in Iraq, why don’t they stop complaining and start reporting it?”
I think that’s a WONDERFUL idea! hee!
March 27th, 2006 at 5:10 pmPodesta is on Hardball now
March 27th, 2006 at 5:17 pmCome on now fairs fair Bill Hemmer was there……Oh sorry I forgot he was injured in action cutting his knee and was air lifted out.
March 27th, 2006 at 5:18 pmBut before his injury he did divulge some interesting info on how the Turks get hair out their ears.
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March 27th, 2006 at 5:18 pmHave you heard the latest news on Fox? You won’t believe it!
Fe Fi Faux Fun: Fox Adds Five Cable Channels
EWM- (March 25, 2006) Rupert Murdoch’s media empire expanded today with the announcement that its wildly successful Fox News franchise has spawned five new cable channels. The quintet is devoted to 24/7 coverage of various themes that have made Fox a ratings bonanza
The plans were revealed in a celebrity-studded Times Square event in which master of ceremonies Dick Cheney shot a stage hand holding down a shroud covering giant billboards promoting the stations. As the worker fell bleeding onto Broadway Avenue, the curtain rose on a new era of cable news….
Attendees at the event were treated to a live debut of the “Bill O’Reilly Home Shopping Network.†The channel’s namesake ran onto the stage wearing a designer “B.O. Factor Wife-Beater†tee-shirt and hawked wares ranging from the “No-spin Falafel Maker†to hands-free telephone headsets and American flag-adorned shower caps….
Editor’s Note: Please excuse the Muse for reporting fantasy. As a Fairly Unbalanced Journalist, it’s his calling.
March 27th, 2006 at 5:22 pmapparently Fox News hasn’t been watching the news… 40 killed by a suicide bomber at an army recruitment center… 30 beheaded… and so on… and that’s just in the last day or so!!!
March 27th, 2006 at 5:25 pm#27 - Fantastic, Muse! Cool website, too.
March 27th, 2006 at 5:25 pmIs Laura channeling Sid Vicious or Elvis or something with that new hair style?
March 27th, 2006 at 5:39 pmjoe six pack - it wasn’t 10 days, not even a week…
ALL - you need to watch/listen to LARA LOGAN talk about this:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/26.html#a7669
be sure to listen to the very end … i won’t give it away…
March 27th, 2006 at 5:43 pmThe RepubliKlans and Faux news expect that when we are served a dinner plate piled high with shit topped by a cherry,that we are supposed to marvel at how pretty the cherry is. These people are clinically mentally ill and finally being tuned out by even the most stubborn among us!
March 27th, 2006 at 5:46 pmIn commenting on Laura Ingraham’s obnoxious comments, Keith Olbermann ran a story by NBC reporter Richard Engel. Engel did a story about why it is so difficult to report “the good news” out of Iraq. As he and his crew were preparing to leave the hotel, a car bomb went off on the street outside. In the places where “good news” could be found, it has usually been too dangerous to travel out to those places to get the video. This is one of the primary reasons why we don’t hear more of the “good news” out of Iraq - it;s buried inside a very dangerous area.
It was disheartening to see joe Scarborough go through this whole same idiocy with Ms Ingraham later that night! Apparently Joe didn;t know that his fellow NBC correspondents were trying to do what he complained wasn’t being done.
Oh, and #30, I heard Laura Ingraham has been undergoing treatment for cancer, hence the new hairstyle. I wish her a full and speedy recovery. I do not wish to ever have to hear another word out of her mouth, but I really do hope her health improves.
March 27th, 2006 at 5:47 pm#30 - Cancer treatment.
March 27th, 2006 at 5:48 pm#9 LMAO
March 27th, 2006 at 5:52 pm33- Indeed. The people pushing the “they only run bad news” aren’t exactly doing it either. The only lesson that anyone seems to have learned from Vietnam, is that you don’t let the public see what is happening, and if they do, compalin that the media is losing the war.
And, as vile as find some of the things Ingraham says, I too hope she recovers.
March 27th, 2006 at 6:03 pmFrom what I understant, Fox has no foreign correspondents to speak of.
March 27th, 2006 at 6:04 pmI suppose if they keep talking about the fact that no one is covering the good news, doesn’t that count as covering the good news? OH wait they need to complain about it…so sorry. Fox Complaint Network just doesn’t have the same ring as Fox News Network…
I really don’t like that network…to bad most americans do…
March 27th, 2006 at 6:04 pm#38 dcc
Actually most Americans don’t watch Fox News Channel. It’s the most-watched cable channel, not the most-watched channel period. The regular netowrks still pull in millions of viewers more than Bill O’Lielly does on one of his “good nights” (which I define as ‘a night in which he is not on TV’.)
And, of course, I don’t like them either, but that’s mainly because they try to convince viewers that what they do is sound journalism when it clearly is anything but. Every Fox News Channel program is based on opinion, not fact. Now, if they would just come out and admit that, then I wouldn’t have any problem with them. But they lie a lot, and they interject their personal opinions on things so often (and usually under the guise of saying, “It’s been said that…” when, in reality, it’s the Fox person’s own viewpoint that he’s about to spout.) They are not a “news” channel; they are an opinion channel.
March 27th, 2006 at 6:13 pmSo because Ingraham has cancer we should go easy on her??? People like her and this administration do not care about the future of our children or us for that matter and spew poison at every chance. For this i say fuck her and if she loses her battle with cancer good riddence!!!
March 27th, 2006 at 6:17 pmSorry if this bothers you but I am sick of this bitch and our current situation….you think she’d care if your daughter had cancer???
03/27/2006 : Rumsfeld Steels War College Class for Long Struggle Against Terrorists With Photos
March 27th, 2006 at 6:20 pmCARLISLE BARRACKS, Pa., March 27, 2006 – Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told senior officers at the Army War College here today that the American people must stay resolved in fighting terrorism.
Laura Ingrham & mAnn Coulter … are they the same thing ?!
Same nasaly voice
Same rightwing Kool aide drinking > IGNORANCE
March 27th, 2006 at 6:30 pmI think Bill O’ ought to spend a few months in Iraq. Then he should come back and file his report. But first we need to extract he and all of Faux News out from under Preznit Numbnut’s desk.
Whoever said that Faux News is the Republican’s Pravda hit the nail on the head!
A small dose of reality for Bill O’:
… Three years later and the nightmares of bombings and of shock and awe have evolved into another sort of nightmare. The difference between now and then was that three years ago, we were still worrying about material things- possessions, houses, cars, electricity, water, fuel… It’s difficult to define what worries us most now. Even the most cynical war critics couldn’t imagine the country being this bad three years after the war… Allah yistur min il rab3a (God protect us from the fourth year).
[from: http://www.riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ ]
March 27th, 2006 at 6:32 pmFox news = eunich trolls.
March 27th, 2006 at 6:35 pmyou think she’d care if your daughter had cancer???
I didn’t care what she thought before she was diagnosed. That hasn’t changed.
March 27th, 2006 at 6:51 pmhttp://www.jcs.mil/ chairman/ speeches/ 060309CJCS_SecDefSecStateCENTCOMSenApproCom.html
Some good news noone would report
Previous appropriated funds have enabled the ISF to continue to increase capability and self-reliance, with the aim of taking ownership of their country’s security. Initial training and equipping of personnel and combat units in the defense forces is over 80 percent complete, while training and equipping of police forces is over 60 percent complete. There are over 100 Iraqi army and special operations forces battalions conducting counterinsurgency operations, compared with only five in 2004. The Iraqis are making good progress with 49 Iraqi Defense Force battalions now controlling their own battlespace with coalition forces in the supporting role. We didn’t have any doing this last year. Iraqis are in the lead in about half the precincts in Baghdad. And again, we didn’t have any doing this last year. This was accomplished certainly in part because of the funds that you provided us in last year’s supplemental. We are requesting some funding for Iraqi security infrastructure, and we believe that failure to complete these critical infrastructure projects could seriously delay the ability of the Iraqis to fully engage the counterinsurgency fight, take control of their battlespace, and maintain operational readiness.
March 27th, 2006 at 6:57 pmWhat is it with rupugs and trolls obsessed with abyss gazing??? Try a mirror, this be where the true monster layeth sir.
March 27th, 2006 at 6:58 pmI don’t see fox reporting all this great news… I did see Brent Sadler enter Tikit live. And of course poor Bob Woodward. I hope he will get well to tell us how safe Iraq is today.
March 27th, 2006 at 7:17 pmFOX, it’s Full Of eXcrement. Take for what’s it is worth and hold your nose.
March 27th, 2006 at 7:25 pm2008: The no-longer-criminally-suppressed FBI storms FOX corporate offices and confiscates hundreds of thousands of documents linking the Republican Party directly to the suppression of news stories, and deliberate disinformation campaigns intended to subvert elections, promote violence, and cover the embezzlement of billions of dollars.
March 27th, 2006 at 7:27 pmTundra,
Do you actually believe any of that information? It’s already public knowledge that the Pentagon is paying to fabricate news. Are you sure that any of that information is accurate?
March 27th, 2006 at 7:31 pmFox would rather report on the reports of bad news from Iraq, than actually cover the news from Iraq, which is bad.
March 27th, 2006 at 7:35 pmThey are the propaganda arm of Bush&Co. See how they have carefully, and in unison, pronounced the media as the “bad guys” here — it’s like the war on Christmas, or the war on Christians — a vague battle fought on imaginary fronts, with no end in sight.
Testimony at Senate Appropriations Committee on
The President’s Supplemental Appropriations Request For Diplomatic And Military Operations In Iraq And The War On Terrorism
with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary Of State Condoleezza Rice and Army General John Abizaid, Commander, Central Command
Washington, D.C.
March 9, 2006
Well, it was testimony to the Armed Services Committee. If it was innacurate I would hope one of the members of the senate (There are several who are far from happy with Rummy) would of investigated it.
If the debate against this is “Well BushCo lies and that’s what they do, They would lie to the Armed Forces Committee about results, you can’t trust anything any of them say ever!!!”
March 27th, 2006 at 7:42 pmThen No, I got nothing
Bush mentions the success of Tal Afar in Cleveland……….40 killed near Tal Afar yesterday…….http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060327/ts_afp/iraq……you think “good news” is not in the Iraqis best interest?
March 27th, 2006 at 7:46 pm54,
Walter, what was Bush saying was a success about the article? I don’t see his name in the article at all?
March 27th, 2006 at 7:54 pmSome good news noone would report (…)
Comment by Tundra — March 27, 2006 @ 6:57 pm
I am sure that there must be some good news in Iraq. It just so happens that the amount of bad news coming out of that country is so overwhelming, that giving equal time to whatever good news a reporter could find would be extremely misleading and dishonest at best.
What people are looking for, when they clamour for goods news, is for the media to give them confirmation of a preconceived notion, i.e., that the situation in Iraq is not as bad as it seems. In other words, they want to be fed propaganda not reality.
Can you imagine yourself asking for good news from the media in the aftermath of Katrina? I am sure there must have been good news, but the reality was so overpowering that the idea of focusing on the positive is laughable.
Simply put: Iraq is a bloody mess. The people asking for good news are actually trying hard to ignore reality -and they don’t like being confronted with it. It seems like you don’t like it either.
March 27th, 2006 at 7:54 pmIf the debate against this is “Well BushCo lies and that’s what they do, They would lie to the Armed Forces Committee about results, you can’t trust anything any of them say ever!!!â€
Then No, I got nothing
Comment by Tundra — March 27, 2006 @ 7:42 pm
You might find this interesting, if you don’t already know about it, but humans are born with virtually no instincts. Everything we acquire as an instinct is something we learn in life - the hard way. You fall, hit your head and it hurts. So the next time you fall - well, out comes the arms to stop that head hurting condition.
Unfortunately, it also works to our disadvantage. As in - lie to the people enough and eventually, nothing you say will be credible unless you have seriously overwhelming evidence. And you can pass an inspection of routine grilling.
Does that help explain our sentiment here?
March 27th, 2006 at 7:56 pmSimply put: Iraq is a bloody mess. The people asking for good news are actually trying hard to ignore reality -and they don’t like being confronted with it. It seems like you don’t like it either.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — March 27, 2006 @ 7:54 pm
This is why I believe that we overprotect children to their detriment. We’re not very good at teaching ourselves to deal with the harsh realities, so we instead cover the horrible truth with ‘good news’ to assuage the distress we feel. Again, to our detriment. Because we shut out the ‘bad’ (mommie make it go away) instead of confront it.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:01 pmbush&co are BUYING their media presstitutes-and yet they still can’t report GOOD NEWS-even spin a fake photo out of Iraq-because there is NO GOOD NEWS.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:05 pmTundra,
This is the same ‘trained’ Iraqi police that received the following critique from the State Department
It sounds like most of their ‘training’ was working at Abu Ghraib, and not in doing police work.
No offense, but the ‘good news’ is mostly spin from what I can see. This is ‘hardly’ the kind of police force that the report you cite refers to - but apparently it’s the REAL force that’s actually on the ground.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:06 pmThe whole “Good News vs Bad News” thing is bullshit.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:08 pmThere is news (which is to say, truth) and there is lies (propaganda).
We should demand NEWS, whether it’s “good” , “bad” or neutral.
Bush reports “good news” about Tal Afar in Cleveland
40 peope are killed near Tal Afar AFTER Bush reported the “good news”
just saying
March 27th, 2006 at 8:08 pmGEN. PETER PACE: Sir, absolutely. And it would be very interesting to take a map of Iraq and lay down where the attacks are and then — which is mostly in four provinces — and the other 14 provinces, and then lay down where the reporting is being done from to see what the opportunity is to have a balanced picture of what’s going on. I suspect that there’s very sparse numbers of individuals looking for stories inside the 14 provinces that are in very, very good shape and making the progress we would expect, and that there’s more in the places where there are bombs going of that are the kinds of things that catch people’s attention.
The above comment by General Pace makes sense to me. I started looking up all of the Iraq Providences and cities and Googling them for news stories. It’s going to take me a while to come up with enough to look at, but hey all I have is time.
57,
Unfortunately, it also works to our disadvantage. As in - lie to the people enough and eventually, nothing you say will be credible unless you have seriously overwhelming evidence. And you can pass an inspection of routine grilling.
One may say being grilled by Senators may constitute passing an inspection, or they may not. I feel if they said one thing in that wrong they would have been called out on it. We would also have heard about it (Or will soon)
Does that help explain our sentiment here?
I fully understand that position, it is just one that cannot be discussed or debated. It would be like someone posting a counter argument that Iraq has 13 providences and quoting ‘World Book” and me saying “World Book is just a bunch of Lying Suits only bent on getting oney and not caring what kind of filth they spawn, and they always lie” It makes for a very unproductive discussion.
Do I think I am always right, Nope, Do I enjoy hearing other ideas, views? You betcha, otherwise I wouldn’t be here.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:09 pmMon Mar 27, 2:03 PM ET
Is when the Yahoo article broke
March 20, 12:25
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2006/ 03/ 20060320-7.html
Is when he gave his speech on Tal Afar in Cleveland.
I think he was speaking in reference to cleaning up the town prior to the attack mentioned.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:22 pmThe above comment by General Pace makes sense to me. I started looking up all of the Iraq Providences and cities and Googling them for news stories. It’s going to take me a while to come up with enough to look at, but hey all I have is time.
Comment by Tundra — March 27, 2006 @ 8:09 pm
The attacks are concentrated in the provinces along the Euphrates river, that much is true. However, this is a spin destined to fool those who ignore that much of the Iraqi population lives along that river. Also, violence is common in other parts of the country.
Doesn’t it strike you as odd that the US military is fighting the very people they claim to be liberating?
March 27th, 2006 at 8:23 pmThe whole “Good News vs Bad News†thing is bullshit.
There is news (which is to say, truth) and there is lies (propaganda).
We should demand NEWS, whether it’s “good†, “bad†or neutral.
Comment by SKdeA — March 27, 2006 @ 8:08 pm
Well said… I agree
March 27th, 2006 at 8:24 pm. It would be like someone posting a counter argument that Iraq has 13 providences and quoting ‘World Book†and me saying “World Book is just a bunch of Lying Suits only bent on getting oney and not caring what kind of filth they spawn, and they always lie†It makes for a very unproductive discussion.
Comment by Tundra — March 27, 2006 @ 8:09 pm
And yet there are people who do and will argue that aspect. Only I think those sources get called communists… And why we aren’t terribly tolerant of the right. I’ve been trying to be better myself. Because I believe, same as you, that we should hear differing opinions. Only, all too frequently, there are those on both sides who don’t want the debate. I’m learning it’s best to recognize them and move on. Exactly why I’m talking to you and not Might Aphrodite right now. Everything said to her in seriousness is pointless.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:30 pmWhy doesn’t Fox just manufacture good news? They are always making shit up, why should this be any different.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:34 pmunbelievable,
I agree with you, and your perspective of both Tundra and Mighty Moron.
Tundra, if there’s any hope for the republicans - it’s in the more thoughtful and reasonable republicans like yourself. You have a bias, but not one that’s so extreme and desperate that you can’t at least try and listen and find common ground. And most americans have tremendous common ground if only they’d look for it. Unfortunately not enough of the republicans realize exactly how bad the ‘leadership’ in your party is, and how ‘fascist’ their intentions are. I hope that changes, and you reclaim your party. Otherwise, maybe you’ll find it within you to just vote against them until they wake up :)
March 27th, 2006 at 8:44 pm#65 Gregor Samsa
Interesting thought I did not think of.
6,361,610 In the four problem providences combined
9,973,588 In the other 14 combined
While I wouldn’t say most, it is a really large group as you stated. A whole lot closer than I would have thought it would be. With that I can nudge a little over, I won’t say it’s total BS but I will concede that point.
http://www.statoids.com/uiq.html
(I realize these are old stats, but it’s the best I could find at the time)
Thanks
March 27th, 2006 at 8:44 pmTundra,
Here’s an example of the past troop coverup issues, and why it’s difficult to trust the administration on this issue.
Here’s a breakdown from Feb 2005 that’s remarkably relevant to this discussion.
I hope you find it interesting.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:48 pmTundra,
The numbers from March 13 have already been debunked. This is exactly why I don’t trust this administration, and how easy it is to recognize they’re in a ’spin war’ more often than an actual one.
Hope you find this information useful.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:51 pmTundra, what I am wondering is there a relationship between Bush mentioning the success of Tal Afar and the attack by insurgents that killed 40 near Tal Afar. I mean, when “good news” is reported from Iraq, isn’t it possible that the insurgents will make that their next target?
haven’t we painted enough bullseyes on Iraqis backs?
March 27th, 2006 at 9:07 pmdo you really think it’s right to make Iraqis targets just to further the republican party?
March 27th, 2006 at 9:09 pmso extreme and desperate that you can’t at least try and listen and find common ground. And most americans have tremendous common ground if only they’d look for it.
Comment by Ryan Neat — March 27, 2006 @ 8:44 pm
Ryan,
I fully agree. Unless we can find some common ground, we’re in serious trouble. I don’t like where we are heading. But some would rather drive off a cliff than stop and ask for directions. In fact, I think (s)he may already have - repeatedly :).
Goodnight.
March 27th, 2006 at 9:12 pmI wonder when they will start reporting the “good news” about Democrats?
March 27th, 2006 at 10:03 pmI’m sure they would answer that there isn’t any.
Point made.
If there’s so much good news from Iraq, why isn’t Fox reporting it 24/7?
March 27th, 2006 at 10:21 pmThese fox ratings are twisted. American Idol and 24 are high rated shows. Beyond that the ratings people just don’t show any shows, or news, that strong…..I smell old rupert murdock is paying somebody to ‘bump’ the ratings. Keith Olbermann is pulling o’liely down and fast. When Idol and 24 are over it’s just very old reruns here. I’ve removed fox news from my lineup, as many many others have done.
March 27th, 2006 at 11:08 pmWe complain, you decide
March 27th, 2006 at 11:17 pmBy the way, when is Laura Ingraham going to stop using a lawn mower to cut her hair.
March 27th, 2006 at 11:18 pmThe reichwing are anything but morons, any less than Hitler’s boys were. They are evil, not dumb.
March 27th, 2006 at 11:57 pmHmm, that good news must be around here somewhere.
March 28th, 2006 at 1:59 amLet’s see . . . . is it under this table? Nope, no good news here.
There is NO good news to report in Iraq > PERIOD. According to the war lovers the press needs to tell stories of some soldiers painting a school, but then not report about the school being blown up afterwards by insurgents, or our own air force? Iraq is a cesspool of anarchy!
March 28th, 2006 at 6:22 amYEAH, IT’S FUNNY WHEN THEY PRETEND THEY’RE NOT THE “MEDIA.”
March 28th, 2006 at 7:57 amWhy isn’t Fox reporting the ‘good news’ out of Iraq instead of simply whining about how no-one else is reporting it?
For all their complaining, finger-pointing, ‘liberal media’ bashing, etc…, they are unable to do the job they claim the liberals won’t–find good news coming out of Iraq.
So, guys, where’s the good news that’s more news-worthy than Mosques being attacked, civilians found beheaded bedheaded by the dozens, reports of roving gangs of death squads, and the inability for the US military, after more than three years of occupation, to provide any semblance of security even in the heavily fortified Green Zone of Bagdhad?
The answer, of course, is that there is little ‘good news’ to be found in Iraq, and its importance is dwarfed by the magnitude and repercussions of the bad news–a total lack of security, sectarian strife bordering on civil war, heavy-handed and counter-productive bungling by the US military, and a failed US policy in general.
Does Fox News and the Whitehouse think that if they fail to report a civil war, that it simply doesn’t exist? A tragic take on the conundrum, ‘if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a noise?’
This is classic Bush administration delusion that Fox is only too happy to join in: every problem is a public relations problem. Death and mayhem in Iraq causing the President’s numbers to tank? Just show the people some pretty pictures. The entire Arab and Muslim world outraged at US pandering to Israel, invading Muslim countries, abducting and torturing civilians in Europe, Afghanistan, Iraw, Gitmo, etc…? Just send the uninformed and incompetent Karen Hughes on a ‘charm offensive.’ That didn’t work, and this ‘blame the media’ crap won’t work, either.
At some point the administration has to pull thier collective head out of their ass and start governing instead of running PR campaigns. If not, they will not last much longer in office.
March 28th, 2006 at 9:27 am#83, LOL, good one!
I’ve come to the conclusion that America is a pretty fucked up country.
The conservatives (as we understand them) have been practicing class warfare since the early 1800s.
The New Deal, the progressive enlightenment and freedoms of the 60s, were abberations. America has always been a sanctimonious, arrogant, sexually-repressed, anal-retentive, murderous country. All we’re seeing now is a concerted attempt to RETURN to that natural state. Think about why they hate the 60s: Because it blurred the line between the haves and the have-nots, it lifted the economic and political clout of the poor and embattled segments of socieity. It lessened the power of the consrevatives who sat behind the scenes.
The Party affiliation has changed over time but conservatism remains the same.
March 28th, 2006 at 9:36 amIf there’s so much good news from Iraq, why isn’t Fox reporting it 24/7?
Comment by ann — March 27, 2006 @ 10:21 pm
Gotta leave time for the boobie shots… demographics and ratings, you know.
March 28th, 2006 at 9:57 amAs often as I watch Faux it’s hard to be sure, but isn’t one of their mantras something like “the real story”, with STORY I believe being the key word, and delivered to you by Bill O’Really?
March 28th, 2006 at 10:16 amThose people are spinning spin on top of spin. No major US media outlet is covering the war and the fleecing of the American public very well. Whoever the nasally guy in the middle of the clip is said something real, this war is what we are all living off.
Oil production may be low but it is still huge and there has not been no public accounting of that cash for three years. Three years of oil sales going who knows where? Not a bad deal for us.
Plus the American people are paying huge amount of tax dollars to insuracne, secruity and cement companies but that is the main thing we do there. Build thick cement walls and insure and secure everything inside those cement walls.
the much maligned ‘oil-for-food’ program turned over $9billion to the cololitaion forces. No accounting of those billions has come forward. The amount of graft and outright theft going on is enough to throw all the present elected officials out on their ass yet none of the major media outlets will deal with it.
March 28th, 2006 at 10:21 amI like to point out an interesting perspective on the Faux News Channel ratings. I’m not familiar with how the rating system works, but I believe that the one of reasons the “propagandarama” channel receives good ratings is that many public places with TVs (i.e. health clubs, sport bars, delicatessens, etc) tune in. It’s left on all day. It eventually becomes a sort of background noise with flashy colors. I think most people don’t really pay much attention to the “content,” as if there was anything mentally stimulating in the first place. I’ve notice people running on treadmills looking up at the TVs. They’re listening to their iPod or whatever and zoning out, primarily engaged in their workout.
Most gyms try to put on a good variety of channels, from local news and weather to sports or whatever. But the one channel they put on for the “news” is the “number one info-tainment channel in the world.” It’s not the fault of the business owner of the establishment to unconsciously do this. They are just serving their customers. They are caught up in the same myth just like many others are in believing that the “very short attention span” channel is the preferred source of news. Sometimes I see CNN. Rarely do I see MSNBC. But these are just my observations in the city live in.
March 28th, 2006 at 11:27 amthe much maligned ‘oil-for-food’ program turned over $9billion to the cololitaion forces. No accounting of those billions has come forward. The amount of graft and outright theft going on is enough to throw all the present elected officials out on their ass yet none of the major media outlets will deal with it.
Comment by Jim Dawson #90
Start spreadin’ the news…
…seems America is asleep at the switch…
…and by the time they wake up…
…Bushiva and l’il Dick’s gang will be looong gonnne…
…and gues who get’s to pay the bill from Bushiva and l’il dick’s “Excellent Adventures” in Iraq and afghanistan?
…it’s as though the criminal Bushite junta has perpetrated identity theft against the American people…
…stolen the national credit card…
…is on one helluva shopping spree…
…and “We The People” have contracted amnesia…
March 28th, 2006 at 1:02 pmamen to that. The Republicans are fleecing us. The democrates just want thier piece and keep thier mouth shut. The news media ignores it. The way things are going, the only thing that will protect us is the second amendment.
March 28th, 2006 at 5:37 pmBushe’s appearance in Wheeling last week financed by right wing Ogden Newspaper group.Audience contained an obvious plant who asked the softball question/whine “Why doesn’t the press report the “good” stories out of Iraq?” She wasn’t from West Virginia..I know how we speak and she did NOT have the accent…who was she? It was widely replayed on FOX, naturally, over the weekend..only Catherine Crier picked up on it..that the womman was a plant.
March 29th, 2006 at 6:57 amIf you have time open google and serach for :
“journalist” “Iraq”
After reading some of the results, take some time to post a reply regarding how the news is reported from Iraq.
To me, it is very clear, it’s not that they are only reporting the bad news but they are incapable of providing news about how bad things are in Iraq.
March 29th, 2006 at 7:35 amCan anyone tell me why we don’t see something like this reported by ‘The Media’?
http://isahaqi.chris-floyd.com/
March 29th, 2006 at 7:47 amWow, just had an epiphany looking at Laura and Bill on that split screen…
…I wonder if Billy O’lielly…
…is a necrophile…
…that almost rhymes with “falafel”…
March 29th, 2006 at 1:12 pmIf everyone there is so concerned about the “media†ignoring all the good news in Iraq, why don’t they stop complaining and start reporting it?
That would’ve been my first question.
March 29th, 2006 at 8:12 pmI forgot, how many reporters does Fox have in Iraq?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:05 amThe only way the West can be saved
It is among the evils, and perhaps is not the smallest, of democratical governments, that the people must feel, before they will see. When this happens, they are roused to action—hence it is that this form of government is so slow.—George Washington to Henry Knox, 8 March 1787.
The wages of sin is death, and the wages of long-standing indifference to the informing genius of a culture is—not just the death of the culture, but the pain and fright that attend death.—L. Brent Bozell, Mustard Seeds
I keep saying that the West must endure much more suffering and horror, many more surrenders and losses, before it will abandon its liberalism and start to defend itself from Islam—if it ever does. But no matter how many times I’ve said this, I realize I haven’t yet got to the core of the problem.
We must focus our attention on the fact that the key to this unfolding disaster is LIBERALISM. I am not speaking of liberalism in the classical sense, as constraints on the power of government, as free speech and free inquiry, as a single rule of law for all citizens, as individual rights. Nor I am not speaking of liberalism in the New Deal sense, as the use of government to correct imbalances in the economy. I am speaking of liberalism in its pure, modern sense, the sense in which it is most authoritative and active for us today—liberalism as non-discrimination, liberalism as non-judgmentalism, liberalism as the belief that individual rights and individual freedoms constitute the defining content of our society, the principle that rules all other principles. All of which comes down to the belief—for us, a sacred belief—that we must not define ourselves as a group, a collective whole, and therefore must not define any other group as fundamentally different from our group.
This is the belief that led the West to admit millions of unassimilable, hostile, and dangerous aliens into the West, and this is the belief that even now makes it impossible for Westerners to think critical thoughts about Islam as such, let alone to take effective action, or even imagine taking effective action, against it. In April 2001 I wrote an article called “America No Longer Exists,†by which I meant that America no longer sees itself as a nation, culture, and people, and therefore is unable to respond to obvious threats to itself as a nation, culture, and people. The same state of spiritual non-existence is much further advanced in Europe, especially Britain. Liberalism, by taking over the minds and hearts and souls of the Western peoples, has literally dissolved them as peoples. Having done so, it is now leading them to their political and civilizational destruction as well .
Now, what can turn this hideous situation around? There is only one thing that can do it: Westerners must feel the horror that liberalism has wrought. When they see their societies progressively taken over by Muslims, when they see Muslim sharia being implanted and enforced in more and more parts of their country, when they see Islam being taught in their children’s schools and promulgated in the mass media, when they see Muslim imams in the councils of state, when they hear the Muslims’ increasingly strident demands for every more Islamization, when they see Muslim razzias (a.k.a. riots and “random†murders) grow in intensity and audacity, when they see the government paralyzed even in the face of the most palpable crimes and threats, and when, most importantly, they feel the horror and despair and pain and humiliation of all this, and when, finally, they see that this situation was brought about by and is sustained by LIBERALISM, by the liberal belief that the acceptance of alien cultures is the highest virtue of society, then, only at that point, they will see that LIBERALISM, which they had imagined to be the fairest good, is the darkest and most disgusting evil, the smiling destroyer that has seduced them to their ruin. Then, and only then, will they be ready to repent of their liberalism and start defending themselves and their civilization.
March 31st, 2006 at 4:09 pm[…] Fox News and others have relentlessly pushed the line that the media is too negative in its reporting on Iraq. Former CENTCOM commander Gen. Anthony Zinni was asked about this critique this morning on Meet the Press. […]
April 2nd, 2006 at 1:41 pmDid one of those guys actually admit that the reason the economy is doing good is because of the war? You truly have to be a jarhead if you believe war is the way to have a good economy–and on top of that that it is somehting to crow about!
April 2nd, 2006 at 4:39 pm[…] In January, Rep. Jeb Bradley (R-NH) traveled to Iraq with five other members of Congress. Upon his return, he described his experiences there in an editorial for the Manchester Union Leader — “Despite Difficulties, We are Making Steady Progress in Iraq†— in which he repeated the conservative talking point that the media is too negative in its reporting on Iraq: One common complaint, though, is that Americans at home get too little news about the progress being made. These troops are concerned that the terror campaign and the media’s predominant focus on suicide bombs and IED attacks will do precisely what the terrorists want: undermine our nation’s confidence and resolve. […]
April 13th, 2006 at 1:13 pm[…] So one of the current right-wing mantras is that the media is ignoring all the good news that’s supposedly happening in Iraq. You know what’s funny to me about that? The media doesn’t even cover good news in this country. Watch local news or look on the front page of any newspaper and what do you see? Fires, car crashes, death, natural disasters… fear, fear, FEAR! I mean, we’re not losing 30 people a day to random suicide bombings in this country, and still there’s nothing in the news but doom and gloom. “If it bleeds, it leads” is the American Way of Journalism. Why is that going to be any different with Iraq? Tags: journalism, media, war. […]
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