Imus Exec. Producer: “Taliban Jill” Is “Wearing Terrorist Headgear” And “Carrying Zarqawi’s Baby”
Imus Exec. Producer: “Taliban Jill” Is “Wearing Terrorist Headgear” And “Carrying Zarqawi’s Baby”
Imus executive producer Bernard McGuirk and sidekick Charles McCord continued their assault on journalist Jill Carroll. Watch it:
Some lowlights:
MCCORD: Put on 20 pounds while in captivity, yeah.
MCGUIRK: And why do we suspect?
IMUS: Well, why do you suspect?
MCGUIRK: She’s carrying Zarqawi’s baby. No doubt about it.
IMUS: Man, you are a such a, you’re a…
MCGUIRK: Did you hear her comments yesterday? She’s wearing the terrorist headgear. And everything points to that.
…
MCGUIRK: She’s Taliban Janie, this girl. Taliban Jill or whatever.
IMUS: That’s a little strong don’t you think.
MCGUIRK: I don’t think so. Well except for the fact that she seems overly sympathetic. There’s something wrong. Something stinks.
The Washington Post reported this morning that the garments Carroll wore in her first interview were “given to her by her captors,” and that she gained weight in captivity because “she never dared turn down their offers of meals or candy for fear of giving offense.”
The full transcript is posted HERE.
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Something stinks alright. Them. My nose is scrunched up to my eyeballs!
March 31st, 2006 at 12:19 pmI like how he included Taliban Janie, a reference to Jane Fonda and her infamous hanoi visit. Nothing makes right wingers see red like Jane Fonda. Otherwise what can we expect. In a sick way it would have been better had she been beaten, raped, and killed, at least for the right wing.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:20 pmI can not believe that these jerks are saying about this lady named Jill that was kidnapped. This is insane. The Republicans don't have any compassion.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:22 pmWhy is Imus letting this shit go on?
At lease bill-o hits the dump when he doesnt like what othe people are saying.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:25 pmObviously McQuirk is being paid to say these things. I think the only real question is: Does McQuirk's bribe money come from the RNC headquarters or straight from the Whitehouse.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:27 pmPretty inappropriate behavior.
However, regarding Carroll, she claims that she was not threatened or harmed. Why did no one question her Oscar performance when she was crying on the films? She looked like she was scared to me.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:29 pmIf I was Jill a nice slander lawsuit would be in order. Ruining her name by connecting her to Zarqawi by being his lover and a suicide bomber.....sorry that is over the top and could ruin her name. I am not one for frivilous lawsuits but these guys went way, way too far on this.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:30 pmWho are these assholes? I don't follow much commentary so I've never heard of them before. I hope I never have to hear from them again. Lets lock them up for a couple years until they learn to be civilized.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:30 pmImus is a twittering idiot. He can shut these f*cks up, but no, he just sits there dithering -- Oh my, please don't, that's not right...
March 31st, 2006 at 12:34 pm*raspberry*
isn't this the same as yesterdays post?
Also, I want candy, abduct me.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:37 pmI dont watch shows that make me dumb so I never see Imus... tell me... is this a competitor of Howard Stearn? Or are they suddenly going crazy at this show?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:40 pmIt's not the same, it's new.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:44 pmBecause its not Fox news, free speech is allowed, even if it is really inappropriate.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:47 pmI love saying Squishy Poop.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:49 pmTHEY SAY STUPID THINGS ALL THE TIME. IT'S A BUNCH OF GERIATRICS ACTING LIKE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. NOT SURE WHY WE EVEN BOTHER TALKING ABOUT THEM.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:51 pm#13 - Yep, I'm all for these idiots' freedom of speech. I'm happy we have freedom of speech, too, so we can heckle them.
#14 - Who doesn't? It's so Cartman...
March 31st, 2006 at 12:52 pmAll this attention the Right is giving Jill, she will just have more opportunities to report how she was treated, to more poeple.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:52 pmSpeech is only supposed to be free, not courteous, not pleasant, not enlightening, not even sane. Some chucklehead in the ether proves that every day.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:53 pmscum.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:54 pmThe attacks on Jill Carroll are disgusting and putrid! It is obvious that war lovers wanted her murdered or at least gang-raped?! Shame on those who slander her!
March 31st, 2006 at 1:01 pm#19 Hey Tom,
Sounds like a really informed and well thought out decision you made there. I would be greatful they didn't kill me, and my PTSD from being held by these head-choppers may have an effect on my perception of the incident.
Just a thought for the vacuum you call your brain.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:01 pmI'm really afraid for Ms Carroll.I'm afraid that teh U.S. government will not let her go home to her family.I'm afraid that they will take the same position as these jerks and try and "de_Brief who she is. She did whatever she had to stay alive and yes she has a great story to tell Americans and the World about the Freedom Fighters against the those who went and without Congress authorizing War. Yes Trolls and everyone these Insurgents are Iraqi's and want their Country Back and Everyone of us would do the same of a Country Came Into Our Country and did the Shock And Awe for our Natural Resources.. Sooo I strongly suggest trolls step back and take a deep breath and help out this Regime that is Raping Our Country ,Our Children and Grandchildren will be carrying gw bush debt on their backs for Decades!
March 31st, 2006 at 1:05 pmI 'll ask this again. She claims she was not threaened but she sure looked like she was on those tapes. I have not seen anyone inquire about the apparent contradiction.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:05 pmImus and his slimeball crew must be asking to get their asses kicked and their balls squeezed out if we see them on the streets.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:06 pmMcJerk must be a regular at LGF. On the bright side, The I for idiot man is going to vote for McCain. last time ve claims to have voted for kerry and we all know how that went.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:09 pm#23 - did you ever think that perhaps there was emotinal/mental torture of some sort happening. It may be at the moment that is being supressed at the joy of being alive, physically intact, not raped, not physically tortured.
If I was kidnapped and somone stuck me in front of a camera and told me to tell people I was going to be killed, I think I may have a little emotion to show. I could be wrong, but I do not think so!
March 31st, 2006 at 1:10 pmJules, yes I thought of that.
If I was kidnapped and somone stuck me in front of a camera and told me to tell people I was going to be killed, I think I may have a little emotion to show. I could be wrong, but I do not think so!
That is not how I define as being treated very nicely.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:12 pmAttn; Don Imus is not mark Twain, H.L. Mencken or even Ambrose Bierce. He's a cross between Elmer Fudd and Pecos Pete. They are cartoon characters.
There is a reason for that. That taped interview she thought was for internal use only. It's quite clear that even the legitimate Iraqi government wants us gone now. good job, Bushco!
March 31st, 2006 at 1:14 pmWe dont have a clue as to what its like to go through this, so let the woman deal with it and come back later to talk about it.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:14 pmEat this food or you'll lose your head.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:16 pm>BEN>... if you were captured in Iraq and didnt know what was going to happen to you dont you think you would be a little upset? she was crying when they filmed her because they filmed her right after she was kidnapped, she didnt have a clue whetther she would be beheaded or raped or what!! give me a break!!!
March 31st, 2006 at 1:17 pmoh, okay t-mac thanks for clearing that up. I 'm glad you know exactly what the deal was.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:20 pmshe's the new Jane Fonda and the new Cindy Sheehan - someone else for the haters to hate... consternatives only want "good" news from Iraq on their own terms:
http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/2006/03/is-this-news-good-enough-for-you.html
March 31st, 2006 at 1:22 pmThey would have been happier if she had been beheaded. The fact that SHE somehow survived, really pisses them off because it is a WOMAN who outsmarted those a**holes and came out of it alive, not a man. No doubt we'd be hearing an entirely different story if it had been a man who made it out with his life.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:30 pmI too had some questions about her claim to have been well treated, but these guys are jumping to conclusions like crazy and making really obnoxious comments on top of that -- "carrying Zarqawi's baby". There's really no defense for this, and "They do this kind of stuff all the time" makes them seem worse, not better.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:35 pmThese guys are the latest train wreak. . .their audience? Pissed off repubs needing to blame and draw attention away from the bush/cheney daily disasters. . . . this is the latest "Swift Boat" repub effort to draw attention away from the daily death count of Americans in Iraq.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:38 pmConsider the 'total' of what is on our airwaves these days, from tv to radio.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:41 pmUnbelieveable and bizzare, in a twilight zone kind of way.
Post 34 the Bush loving warmongers wanted Jill Carroll to be found dead with her head severed off her raped body! They wanted another Nicholas Berg to inflame Americans hatred for propaganda purposes! It did not turn out the way they wanted, so now they are calling her a collaberator with her captives! This shows their desperation! Jill needs to get out of Iraq before American Bush agents murder her!
March 31st, 2006 at 1:43 pm#2 - "In a sick way it would have been better had she been beaten, raped, and killed, at least for the right wing." - Comment by Krazny —
****You're right, Krazny - yours is one SICK thought. I can't imagine anyone not wanting Jill Carroll released unharmed. But progressives conspiracies can take you where you never dreamed you'd go.
When I hear her discussing the humane treatment by the barbarians who held her for almost three months, I can't help but recall her dead driver and the video tape of her crying and begging for her life. Benevolent barbarians???? Now there's an alliterative oxymoron.....
March 31st, 2006 at 1:44 pmBen- you did not read the beginning of my post. I have not ever been in this position but I would assume there is a temporary feeling of Euphoria.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:49 pmIt was all a farse. Who really believes she was captured and released... The tape of the beheading was a real capture... What was the purpose her capture? To release all Iraqi women? Maybe she is a feminist and used this to promote for women?
March 31st, 2006 at 1:54 pmImus and crew put the "h" in hack. Nice to see them jump on the wingnut "Al Queda Jill" bandwagon.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:57 pm#39 When I hear her discussing the humane treatment by the barbarians who held her for almost three months, I can’t help but recall her dead driver and the video tape of her crying and begging for her life. Benevolent barbarians???? Now there’s an alliterative oxymoron…..
Let's see... 2001-2005 = 5 years = 65 months. The time many of the prisoners at Guantánamo and Bagram have been kidnapped from his family and country. Many have been freed with no charges some time ago. I can't help to recall the whole cities bombed and the video tapes of whole families killed by trigger happy american soldiers. Benevolent boys fighting for Democracy? Now there's an alliterative oxymoron, and an old moron, MidgetHag.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:59 pmwhy are any of these people on the radio? why do they have careers?
March 31st, 2006 at 2:14 pmLiberal Oasis had a fabulous post today on conservatives and Jill Carroll. http://www.liberaloasis.com/ Conservatives' REAL issue? Carroll destoys their propaganda about the "cowardly media reporting from balconies". In the real world, here's a journalist who went out in Iraq without military escorts and reported on what she saw (mostly bad, some good) and paid a heavy price for her bravery.
March 31st, 2006 at 2:15 pmInteresting how this incident becomes a blank canvas for
March 31st, 2006 at 2:17 pmeveryone's ideology and personal mindset.
Making up scenarios to fit some agenda on their own part.
Pure speculation and completely worthless.
However, Imus and crew ARE a sick bunch as
has been proven time and again.
#44 Oops, 5 years = 60 months (but that doesn't make MightyHag "Right" ;) )
March 31st, 2006 at 2:20 pmjust went to google news to see what king of jill stories are out there, wanted to get more info about her statements upon release...anyhoo - it's gonna get worse:
Jill Carroll—Spokeswoman for the Mujahedeen?
Written by Gregory Borse Friday, March 31, 2006
A video has emerged on the Internet showing Christian Science Monitor reporter Jill Carroll speaking on behalf of the Mujahedeen in Iraq prior to her recent release. Little Green Footballs has video and transcript. ...
read the story, before the wing nuts spin it out of proportion...can't tell what denomination this site is, but seemed mostly reasonable...
March 31st, 2006 at 2:23 pmDear Evil Old Spaniard - I think your "brave" country did all their talking when they allowed the tragic Madrid train bombings to dictate the Spanish foreign policy. Spains' whimpering, snilveling withdrawal from the war shows how cowardly and intimidated Old Spain is..... Of course, you can always return to the days of Arab "occupation" for another 700 years....
March 31st, 2006 at 2:24 pm[...] Imus Exec. Producer: Taliban Jill Is Wearing Terrorist Think Progress, DC - 1 hour ago Watch it: MCCORD: Put on 20 pounds while in captivity, yeah. MCGUIRK: She s carrying Zarqawi s baby. No doubt about it. MCGUIRK [...]
March 31st, 2006 at 2:27 pm#50 Dear Evil Old Spaniard - I think your “brave†country did all their talking when they allowed the tragic Madrid train bombings to dictate the Spanish foreign policy. Spains’ whimpering, snilveling withdrawal from the war shows how cowardly and intimidated Old Spain is….. Of course, you can always return to the days of Arab “occupation†for another 700 years….
Dear (?) OldMidgetHag - I think your “brave†country did all their talking when they allowed the tragic Twin Towers crumbling to dictate the USA foreign policy. USA’ whimpering, snilveling withdrawal from the war in Afghanistan shows how cowardly and intimidated USA is….. Of course, you can always return to the days of Reagan's "Golden" years for another 2 years….
March 31st, 2006 at 2:31 pmGood Lord, the woman was just released yesterday. She's still in a hostile country. Given that she spent 3 months not knowing if she would live or die, she's probably not feeling secure just yet. If I were in her shoes I wouldn't be dissing my captors until I was at least out of the country.
March 31st, 2006 at 2:31 pm#12 They can't read, they only look at the pictures.
March 31st, 2006 at 2:37 pmYou dweebs gotta get a life. They are just trying to stip up the pot for the listeners. Imus is basicly the moderator, while Bernie and Mchord play devil's advocate. Jill Carroll is an Iraqi sympathizer, though. No doubt about that. I wouldn't be suprised if she staged the whole thing for attention, and/or book offer.
March 31st, 2006 at 2:49 pmBut it's Don Imus!!
This clown hasn't been relevant since he alledgedly gave up cocaine. Who cares what he and his hired schlubs have to say?
March 31st, 2006 at 2:58 pm#56 Iraqi sympathizer? Do you have something against Iraqis? Or was that just a Freudian slip? Hmmmmm I wonder what you thought about the Dubai deal?
March 31st, 2006 at 3:04 pm#50 Geeez already. Do you just hate every country? You have never once said anything positive about any woman ever.
March 31st, 2006 at 3:11 pmYou dweebs gotta get a life. They are just trying to stip up the pot for the listeners. Imus is basicly the moderator, while Bernie and Mchord play devil’s advocate. Jill Carroll is an Iraqi sympathizer, though. No doubt about that. I wouldn’t be suprised if she staged the whole thing for attention, and/or book offer.
Comment by The I-MAN
Shouldnt all good Americans be Iraqi sympathizers? I thought Americans cheer for the down troden and boo the criminals? Or are you trying to say Iraq attacked America in some way? Did I miss that? Was it before or after 911?
March 31st, 2006 at 3:12 pmI'm done. That awful man needs to be horsewhipped.
March 31st, 2006 at 3:13 pm#39 You really don't know shit. That is what you do know. Aren't you the one saying we are too quick to judge when all of your party is disintegrating?
March 31st, 2006 at 3:14 pmCheck out: . Thanks.
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My dear PP- - Read #39 (again!!) and get back with me - unless that"other one" has hijacked your moniker, you don't sound nearly as intelligent as you normally do...
March 31st, 2006 at 3:20 pmAT LEAST 40% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE DUMB ENOUGH OR NAZI ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THEM, NO MATTER WHATEVER THESE SHITTT HEADS( IMUS, LIMBAUGH, ETC)SPREAD! (EVEN AIDS!)
March 31st, 2006 at 3:34 pmOne of Karl Rove's schemes no doubt.
March 31st, 2006 at 3:42 pmA very good profile of Imus by James Wolcott.
Enjoy
http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2006/02/appeasing_the_g.php
Appeasing the Geezer
March 31st, 2006 at 3:47 pmPosted by James Wolcott
I watch Imus but not because I like him or his crew of bigots and assholes, and Bernard is the worst. I have never heard Bernard utter a nice thing or tell the truth about much. All the guys on the show just kiss Imus's old wrinkled ass and say whatever pops into their sick little brains. They do have some good guests on the show and I watch almost every day so I can be ready to tell someone off as soon as I get to work.
March 31st, 2006 at 3:49 pmWhen the FAA finishes clearing the airwaves of utterances of the word sh*t they gotta take the drugs away from these right wing radio jocks.
March 31st, 2006 at 3:56 pmExtreme racism. They are horrified that others are capabable of NOT torturing.
March 31st, 2006 at 4:01 pmMcGuirk is always saying outrageous stuff like that. It's probably just a reaction to his being molested by his parish priest as a youth. He's still very touchy on that subject whenever it comes up on the show. Overcompensates trying to defend the Catholic priesthood; typicla Stockholm Syndrome case of loving the abuser. I heard that McCord has a sketchy past as well. Something about a minister at a camp.
Of course with Imus you have a pathetic old queen who tries to cover his proclivities by marrying a young gold-digger. He's practically crippled but she doesn't seem to have any trouble "getting around" if you know what I mean. (wink wink nudge nudge)
The three guys seem to take great pleasure in each other's company. Not sure who's with who, not that there's anything wrong with that.
March 31st, 2006 at 4:05 pmIt's so nice to know that the arrested development piss-caca-poo-poo boys at Imus & Jonah Goldberg have such high capacity for EMPATHY and CONCERN for other human beings who have been through a life-altering, life-threatening experience (instead of insisting on immature, narcissistic rigid world views of the way things OUGHT to be in their boys-will-be-boys outlooks).
Yes, they're all such outsanding examples of moralistic rectitude (if only their heads could explode while inserted all the way up their whiny, privileged, hate-filled asses).
You can tell they've all worked really hard to develop a sense of conscience, consciousness and empathy. Not.
Buzzzed
March 31st, 2006 at 4:10 pmdoes anyone actually listen to that walking corpse?
March 31st, 2006 at 4:18 pm#56
"Jill Carroll is an Iraqi sympathizer, though."
I thought we were ALL Iraqi sympythizers. After all, we're there to release them from the cruel tyranny of Saddam Hussein . . . . RIGHT?
Since when are we at war against Iraq?
March 31st, 2006 at 4:22 pmJill Carroll has actually comported herself in the best manner possible, given the situaion.
Look, what are her options here after release vis-a-vis public statements?
she can:
a)
Act relatively neutral keeping her public criticism of her former captors to a minimum.
b)
She can denounce her former captors publicly in the harshest of terms, targeting the murder of her interpreter, the captors barbarity, sub-human politics..etc. etc.
Which avenue, a or b, do you suppose would influence future captors into releasing their hostages?
Hmmmmm?
I hardly think they'd release many hostages just to be bad mouthed by them in return.
Just a thought. I believe Jill is being very careful about what she says publicly.
March 31st, 2006 at 4:36 pmI personally think that this is just another attempt by these repugs to cause a divide in public opinion. They know that if they can divide it's better for them. they know that they still have the largest base an that they can win with it because they only vote republican, period, and if they can just get a few people they can win, any election.
March 31st, 2006 at 4:52 pmThat's McGuirk's schtick. He acts pissed off at everyone and generally wants to ridicule and dump on everyone in the world except for a select group of people known as white American males. He's just an enormous a-hole. There's really not much more to it.
March 31st, 2006 at 4:56 pmThis is a nothing comment. It's McGuirk being a jerk. If ya listen to the show, it's not serious.
March 31st, 2006 at 5:20 pmCarroll bashing reaches fever pitch...
This time, it's the executive producer of Don Imus's show, Bernard McGuirk, who yesterday said the following:MCGUIRK: She strikes me as the kind of woman who would wear one of those suicide vests. You know, walk into the - try...
March 31st, 2006 at 6:08 pmErik's comment above is right on the money. This is part of what Bernard does - which is intended to make Imus look more sympathetic. Whether a person agrees with Imus or not, he can tend to be extremely abrasive - and Bernard is there to make him look congenial by comparison. By disagreeing w/ Bernard (which Imus does on an almost constant basis on the show), it makes him look good.
Notice that Bernard doesn't get to say very much (if anything) when an interview is going on. They don't risk offending an important guest with this kind of blather. It's all part of the way the show works.
We should also remember, that nobody with an operating brain will ever be swayed by anything which Bernard has opined. His behavior on the air has always been transparently stupid, and I think that anyone who would cite Bernard as a source of informed opinion would be admitting their own abject ignorance.
March 31st, 2006 at 6:14 pmMcGirk never misses a chance to attack blacks, Jews, Arabs or Hispanics but saves his most hateful comments for women. I really wonder if he has some latent homosexual issues. Imus humiliates him on a regular basis, so perhaps this is McGirk's way of venting his rage and frustration. I usually enjoy low brow humor but this guy is just plain vile.
March 31st, 2006 at 6:27 pmShe was still in Iraq -- where no place is safe -- so fear could impel her to minimize the danger and hardship. It may also be true that she was relatively well-treated -- particularly is she compares her treatment to that of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo.
PEraonlly, I hope she sues Imus and McGuirk and MSNBC. If there was any justice in the world, she would end up owning MSNBC and able to fire their asses herself.
March 31st, 2006 at 6:40 pmThat show is proof how a bunch of brain amputated old fuddy daddies rake in millions. Only one answer to such garbage: Boykott - and they will be out of there.
March 31st, 2006 at 6:50 pmI hope someone close to this young woman gets her the word that she has a BIG PAYDAY coming in court against Bernard McGuirk who has made thousands of character assasinations over the years. If this were some GOP scumbag the RNC would have 6 lawyers assigned to protect their sorry ass.
March 31st, 2006 at 7:50 pmI really like the idea of proceeding with legal action against McGurik, Imus, MSNBC and the radio network. Imus says CBS pays them....
March 31st, 2006 at 8:05 pmI have been listening to Imus since the Cocaine and Cleveland days in the 70s. Great guests, stupid comment...About once a month I write him a note reminding him he sounds more and more like a dottering old idiot.
The Jill comments are over the top and they need to be held accountable for them.
From what Ive seen she could be exhibiting signs of the Stockholm syndrome that victim's usually experience when they are dependent on their captors for their survival.
McGuirk is a callous asshole.
March 31st, 2006 at 9:13 pmIf ever there was a reason to listen to NPR ...
March 31st, 2006 at 9:29 pmCarroll's post-release behavior is motivated by either Stockhom syndrome (a la Patty Hearst) or a fear of reprisal or a little of each. I certainly don't blame her-she's much braver than I. The Imus exec. producer's remarks obviously don't warrant comment.
March 31st, 2006 at 10:51 pmSorry. Typo. It's "Stockholm," of course.
March 31st, 2006 at 10:54 pmBernard McGuirk says things with the sole purpose to shock-to get a rise out of people. And it obviously worked in this case. If he is reading this thread, I'm sure he is laughing and maybe asking for a raise. You're trying to turn "shock radio" into serious political commentary- shame on you.
March 31st, 2006 at 11:26 pmWrite and let them know you'll be boycotting and that you'll be letting their advertisers know about it.
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March 31st, 2006 at 11:47 pmfeedback@msnbc.com
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Just because we torture people, that does not mean everybody does. This is a real dig at the USA by captors, intentional or not.
April 1st, 2006 at 12:05 amjill carroll made an ass of you
April 1st, 2006 at 2:10 am[...] Don Imus’ Producer Mocks and Insults Released Hostage Jill Carroll [...]
April 1st, 2006 at 4:48 amBernard takes it in the ass and likes it
April 1st, 2006 at 8:59 amI'm sure you all also posted objections when Imus said that Donald Rumsfeld and Karl Rove should be handcuffed and frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs, right?
April 1st, 2006 at 11:13 amI also didn't anyone complaining when Imus supported John Kerry the whole year of 2004 and called Dick Cheney a war criminal.
Suddenly NOW hes a right wing wack job like Rush and Hannity.
April 1st, 2006 at 1:40 pm[...] 3. It’s quite possible that, in time, Carroll will provide more details about her treatment in captivity. These comments may or may not be completely consistent with what she said moments after being released. We’ll just have to wait and see. In the meantime, it seems inappropriate to attack her mental state, her patriotism or her character because she didn’t use the right’s preferred buzzwords about terrorists. [...]
April 1st, 2006 at 3:12 pmI have written to MSNBC urging them to fire Mr. McGirk for his offensive, idiotic remarks. I urge you all to do the same.
April 1st, 2006 at 6:19 pmMcJerk
April 1st, 2006 at 7:31 pm[...] Jill Carroll, a Christian Science Monitor reporter, was recently released (NYT, BBC) by her captors in Iraq. Immediately after her release, she was interviewed in the offices of the Iraqi Islamic Party, where she had been dropped off. There’s been a lot of buzz surrounding her statements that she was treated well by her captives in an interview and her criticism of the US in a video of her before she was released (Imus, Imus, ThinkProgress). Many super conservatives we very critical of her statements, claiming she (and the liberal blogs that defended her) was either crazy (a la Stockholm Syndrome) or a terrorist supporter. [...]
April 1st, 2006 at 8:46 pmImus is niether Republican nor right wing. If you listened to him you'd realize that very quickly.
It's funny hearing some of you jerks instantly blaming the RNC, right wingers, Bush....Cheney...
Your guys can be assholes too, or have you drank too much kool aid to realize that?
April 1st, 2006 at 11:38 pm#104- So, is it your position that only the RNC, right wingers, Bush, and Cheney, etc; should be able to "instantly blame", as you put it, people like Jill Carroll? I am not surprised. It was exactly this behavior that got this entire situation going. The "Righties" didn't like what Jill Carroll said, and instantly attacked her. No need to be patient, to see if there was more to the situation, as it turned out there was, oh, MY no! Righties went straight to "Defcon 1", to hell with waiting for the facts, they only get in the way. But the intense cruelty of the commentary about this woman is breathtaking. What is the REAL issue here? What are you all so frightened of?
April 2nd, 2006 at 1:48 amThose who attack Jill Carroll like this have truly have lost their humanity. It reminds me of the character in C. S. Lewis's "Great Divorce" who had grumbled so much for so long about so many things that eventually everything else dropped away and only the grumble was left. The peson had vanished. There is nothing left of these people but a stew of panicky hatred, and it's all very frightening and pathetic.
Imus lets this sort of thing go on because it has been part of his routine for years beyond count. He lets Bernard McGuirk and Charles McCord say the most horrible things and then tells them to shut up, or whatever. The hateful message gets out and Imus can pose as the voice of moderation and reason.
I predict, by the way, that McGuirk is going to go off his rocker before much longer. He's wound up way too tight and will be wandering the streets one of these days with a Glock, blasting and everything he can. It's all going to be very sad.
April 2nd, 2006 at 6:17 amOne may tend to believe that no Iraqi is a friend of the U.S. commander in chief and his military. Indeed all Iraqi's living on top of our oil are the enemy to our so-called leaders. We are killing them everyday,and our leftover radioactive waste(Depleted uranium) will continue to kill and ruin the health of any people left on top of our oil. Can there be any doubt that the real war plan is genocide? We don't care about those people -we don't even count the bodies.
April 2nd, 2006 at 1:21 pmOne may tend to believe that no Iraqi is a friend of the U.S. commander in chief and his military. Indeed all Iraqi's living on top of our oil are the enemy to our so-called leaders. We are killing them everyday,and our leftover radioactive waste(Depleted uranium) will continue to kill and ruin the health of any people left on top of our oil. Can there be any doubt that the real war plan is genocide? We don't care about those people -we don't even count the bodies.
April 2nd, 2006 at 1:21 pmImus is still on the air!!?!??!
April 2nd, 2006 at 7:22 pm[...] Thanks to ThinkProgress.org for bringing these asses to our attention — you can read the full transcripts and view the video clips from ThinkProgress.org here and here. [...]
April 3rd, 2006 at 12:41 amHmmmm, just wanted to throw down a broad observation. People attempting to diagnose the whole "Jill Carrol" situation is rather reminiscient of Bill Frist diagnosing Terri Schiavo by watching ten minutes of home video.
Take a breath, let time do it's job and the truth will reveal itself.
Finally, everyone here who has been kidnapped and held at threat of death raise their hands. Uh huh, that's what I thought.
Remember, whatever you send out into the world is what you will in turn receive back from it. How would (or did) you feel about having millions of people (or friends, family, colleagues) jump to conclusions about you without having all of the facts?
Best of luck in the coming storm.
April 3rd, 2006 at 1:53 am
April 3rd, 2006 at 1:32 pmGoldberg, Mc Guirk and McCord are just too dumb to know they are stupid.
How long must we viewers be subjected to the venal,vile and arrogant spewings of hatred,ignorance, and conservative bias regularly offered by Don Imus and his Cretinous Crew?
April 3rd, 2006 at 1:52 pmThe fecal comments regarding Jill Carroll are but the latest examples of their hideously disgraceful lack of even a single trace of human decency. Chief among them is Bernard McGuirk...a.k.a. McJerk. He relishes his role as resident skin-head so convincingly; it must represent reality, rather than a sick joke!
Chris Carlin and Rob Bartlett appear much too decent to continue associating with the Imus scumbags and should follow the sterling example of Contessa Brewer( MSNBC Anchor) and now this viewer.... Imus Morons, take your stupid pond-scum mentality and shove it!
Here's the real point to all this crap from the knuckle dragger Republicans and their talk radio/television morons. They can't change the fact that Jill Carroll was treated well and released by her Islamic captors. Contrast that to the way our Christian soldiers have treated prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Those right wing freaks can spin it any way they want but it doesn't change the facts. Most of those right wing talking heads have never worn a military uniform and none of them have ever been held hostage. Their tough guy John Wayne pro-military image is just as phony as George Bush's drugstore cowboy image.
April 3rd, 2006 at 2:05 pmSomething stinks alright...McJerk needs to redirect his scrutiny.
Shock and Awe: Achieving Rapid Dominance (1996)
by Harlan K. Ullman and James P. Wade National Defense University
http://www.dodccrp.org/shockIndex.html
Without compelling reasons, public tolerance toward American sacrifice abroad will remain low and may even decrease. This reluctance on the part of Americans to tolerate pain is directly correlated to perceptions of threat to US interests. Without a clear and present danger, the definition of national interest may remain narrow."
"In this period, political micro-management and fine tuning are likely to be even more prevalent as administrations respond to public sentiments for minimizing casualties and, without a threat or compelling reason, US involvement."
"Americans prefer not to intervene, especially when the direct threat to the US is ambiguous, tenuous, or difficult to define."
"Unless a new menace materializes, defense is headed for less of the same. Such reductions may have no strategic consequences. However, that is an outcome that we believe should not be left to chance."
" Absent a massive threat or massive security challenge, it is not clear that this military advantage can always be translated into concrete political terms that advance American interests."
"Beyond prudence, however, it is clear that without a major threat to generate consensus and to rally the country around defense and defense spending, the military posture of the United States will erode as the defense budget is cut."
"The absence of a direct and daunting external security threat is, of course a most obvious aspect of the difficulty in defining the future defense posture of the nation....it will prove difficult to sustain the current defense program over the long term without a real threat materializing to rally and coalesce public support."
http://www.dodccrp.org/shockIndex.html
"Former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski publishes a book in which he portrays the Eurasian landmass as the key to world power, and Central Asia with its vast oil reserves as the key to domination of Eurasia. The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. "The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor", he says. Because of popular resistance to US military expansionism, his Central Asian strategy can not be implemented except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."
From The Terror Timeline by Paul Thompson
"History is replete with instances in which warnings signs were ignored and change resisted until an external improbable event forced resistant bureaucracies to take action. The question is whether the US will be wise enough to act responsibly and soon enough to reduce US space vulnerability. Or whether, as in the past, a disabling attack against the country and its people - a space Pearl Harbor - will be the only event able to galvanize the nation and cause the US government to act."
-The Rumsfeld Commission (assigned to assess US National Security Space Management and Organization) January 11, 2001
"You and other Democrats in Congress have voiced fear that you simply don't have enough money for the large increase in defense that the Pentagon is seeking, especially for missile defense, and you fear that you'll have to dip into the Social Security funds to pay for it. Does this sort of thing convince you that an emergency exists in this country to increase defense spending, to dip into Social Security, if necessary to pay for defense spending- increase defense spending?"
-Donald Rumsfeld (speaking to Senator Carl Levin) September 11, 2001
"The process of [military] transformation is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event- like a new pearl harbor."- http://www.newamericancentury.org/ RebuildingAmericasDefenses
"To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan, but for what happened on September 11."
Tony Blair (July 2002)
From The Terror Timeline by Paul Thompson
"You show me one reporter, one commentator, one member of Congress who thought we should invade Afghanistan before September 11, and I'll buy you dinner in the best restaurant in New York City."
Sandy Berger (former National Security Advisor)
- The Cell by John Miller, Michael Stone, and Chris Mitchell, 8/02, P.219
"A question has been asked whether or not there is evidence that other hijackings and attacks were prevented by the actions that were taken that day. There are classified reports, media reports and investigative documents that indicate that other attacks may have been planned. But the evidence on this question is speculative at best, and I do not believe anyone can assert that other attacks were thwarted on that day unless he or she is the one who either planned the attack or planned to carry it out."
Norman Mineta (public hearing before the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States,; May 23, 2003)
April 3rd, 2006 at 3:32 pmIf you ask me the whole affair stinks of a CIA / USA / PENTAGON propaganda technique.
April 3rd, 2006 at 4:27 pmI never paid real close attention to this story.However,i did hear her talking on CNN or some other halfassed network and it was pretty clear to me that every word she spoke was spoken under duress.I wonder how these talking heads would react in this situation.They can vilify all they want and i'm guessing most of these pretty boys would do much worse than Jill did under the circumstances,in fact i'm sure most of them would end up dead because there captors got tired of hearing them beg and whine like the dogs that they really are and put them out of their misery.
April 3rd, 2006 at 6:21 pm[...] Imus Exec. Producer: Taliban Jill Is Wearing Terrorist …Think Progress, DC - Mar 31, 2006Watch it: MCCORD: Put on 20 pounds while in captivity, yeah. MCGUIRK: She s carrying Zarqawi s baby. No doubt about it. MCGUIRK … [...]
April 4th, 2006 at 9:44 pmThey don't call it shock radio for nothing folks. The ideal is to troll the listening audience with outrageous comments. The show used to have a Jewish guy named Sid that made most of the outlandish comments but he got fired for saying bad stuff about Kylie Minogue's breast cancer and for being addicted to crack. Ever since he left the show McJerk has taken over as the shows antagonist. Please don't let them bait you with their comments.
April 5th, 2006 at 3:36 amWhy sit here and whine? Do what the libzillas have been shrieking for decades: If you don't like it, change the freaking channel.
April 5th, 2006 at 2:38 pm[...] people thought so, although I never really listened to him, I just knew about him.) Those days are long over. Way, way out of line on the Jill Carroll comments made by his radio team the last couple of days. [...]
March 4th, 2007 at 12:54 pm