Comments on: Jonah Goldberg Responds: I’m “Thinking More Clearly” Than Jill Carroll http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:06:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Ciara http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-501197 Ciara Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:03:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-501197 <strong>I GO WITH LECHEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR NUMBER 123!!!!!!!!</strong> I GO WITH LECHEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR NUMBER 123!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Ciara http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-501196 Ciara Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:03:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-501196 <strong>I GO WITH LECHEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR NUMBER 123!!!!!!!!</strong> I GO WITH LECHEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR NUMBER 123!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Ciara http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-501194 Ciara Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:02:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-501194 <strong>I GO WITH LECHEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR NUMBER 123!!!!!!!!</strong> I GO WITH LECHEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR NUMBER 123!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Lichee http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-495004 Lichee Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:50:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-495004 My god you're all mad! It's pretty clear by now that the hostage-takers FORCED her to say all the things you all still believe was heart-felt and honest. Don't you see the brutal irony here? The terrorists made here state AT GUNPOINT the very same things you all hope for her to say. What does this mean? My god you’re all mad!

It’s pretty clear by now that the hostage-takers FORCED her to say all the things you all still believe was heart-felt and honest.

Don’t you see the brutal irony here? The terrorists made here state AT GUNPOINT the very same things you all hope for her to say.

What does this mean?

]]> By: lpt http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-493877 lpt Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:49:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-493877 Is such a daunting feat (thinking clearly) even POSSIBLE with young Jonah? Is such a daunting feat (thinking clearly) even POSSIBLE with young Jonah?

]]> By: stewart http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-493762 stewart Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:11:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-493762 Until such time as someones got the "goods" on her situation being a hoax, those who seek to discredit her are shameless! This young lady has shown more courage than most could, to think that she survuved at all when other s have not is enough for me. leave her alone. we cant even celebtaye ehr release without the howling pack from the right discrediting her! Until such time as someones got the “goods” on her situation being a hoax, those who seek to discredit her are shameless!
This young lady has shown more courage than most could, to think that she survuved at all when other s have not is enough for me. leave her alone. we cant even celebtaye ehr release without the howling pack from the right discrediting her!

]]> By: Think Progress » Goldberg and Podhoretz Still Don’t Get It http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-493554 Think Progress » Goldberg and Podhoretz Still Don’t Get It Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:14:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-493554 [...] As I explained before Carroll’s statement was released, future comments by Carroll “may not be completely consistent with what she said moments after being released” but “Carroll is the only one who know the facts.” (Goldberg falsely claims that ThinkProgress and others “took her initial statements at face value.”) The point was that, until the full story is revealed by Carroll, it is inappropriate for pundits like Goldberg and Podhoretz to attack her personally. [...] [...] As I explained before Carroll’s statement was released, future comments by Carroll “may not be completely consistent with what she said moments after being released” but “Carroll is the only one who know the facts.” (Goldberg falsely claims that ThinkProgress and others “took her initial statements at face value.”) The point was that, until the full story is revealed by Carroll, it is inappropriate for pundits like Goldberg and Podhoretz to attack her personally. [...]

]]> By: Seixon http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-493530 Seixon Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:06:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-493530 Well, turns out all of them were right, and you, ThinkProgress, were wrong. Carroll had been forced to say all that BS, and everyone with a brain realized this. Of course, those without a brain thought that Carroll was just speaking the truth, because you know, those terrorists could be a bunch of nice folks! Carroll is saying it on a video, it must be true! Well, aside from the fact that those cuddly terrorists made her say those things... something that apparently nobody at ThinkProgress ever envisioned, for obvious reasons. Well, turns out all of them were right, and you, ThinkProgress, were wrong.

Carroll had been forced to say all that BS, and everyone with a brain realized this. Of course, those without a brain thought that Carroll was just speaking the truth, because you know, those terrorists could be a bunch of nice folks! Carroll is saying it on a video, it must be true!

Well, aside from the fact that those cuddly terrorists made her say those things… something that apparently nobody at ThinkProgress ever envisioned, for obvious reasons.

]]> By: Craig http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-493086 Craig Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:39:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-493086 The sad thing is that there is not one word that Jill Carroll said about the United States illegal occupation of Iraqnam, or anything else, that wasn't the truth. My guess is that now that she's out of Iraqnam, she will never ever get a job with Faux "News" because she spoke the truth while under duress. The sad thing is that there is not one word that Jill Carroll said about the United States illegal occupation of Iraqnam, or anything else, that wasn’t the truth. My guess is that now that she’s out of Iraqnam, she will never ever get a job with Faux “News” because she spoke the truth while under duress.

]]> By: Bonnie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492988 Bonnie Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:10:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492988 Those who support George W. Bush and all his lies are NOT in any position to talk about any other person's "moral center." There is no morality in supporting an illegal and immoral war. There is no morality is supporting a man who lies to the American people every time he opens his mouth. There is no morality in the killing of tens of thousands of innocent people. They are the immoral ones not Jill Carroll. Those who support George W. Bush and all his lies are NOT in any position to talk about any other person’s “moral center.” There is no morality in supporting an illegal and immoral war. There is no morality is supporting a man who lies to the American people every time he opens his mouth. There is no morality in the killing of tens of thousands of innocent people. They are the immoral ones not Jill Carroll.

]]> By: Matthew http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492881 Matthew Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:03:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492881 "<i>A couple of thoughts: 1. [...] 2. [...] 3. [...]</i>" You described <b>3</b> thoughts as "<i>a couple</i>". "A couple" is 2, "3" is "a few". You've clearly lost your mind. Your liberal insistence on fuzzy math that only you can understand reveals that you've lost your moral center. Chewbacca is clearly a wookie. Therefore Bush must invade Venezuela, to save us from terrorists. “A couple of thoughts:

1. [...]
2. [...]
3. [...]”

You described 3 thoughts as “a couple“. “A couple” is 2, “3″ is “a few”. You’ve clearly lost your mind. Your liberal insistence on fuzzy math that only you can understand reveals that you’ve lost your moral center. Chewbacca is clearly a wookie. Therefore Bush must invade Venezuela, to save us from terrorists.

]]> By: James http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492875 James Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:57:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492875 She made a video while she was a *hostage*. I have yet to see her endorse the video post-hostage period. When she speaks, it will be clearer but the Stockholm speculation in B.S. considering they all make videos like this and all plead for their lives and criticize the 'occupiers'. She made a video while she was a *hostage*. I have yet to see her endorse the video post-hostage period. When she speaks, it will be clearer but the Stockholm speculation in B.S. considering they all make videos like this and all plead for their lives and criticize the ‘occupiers’.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492840 big papa Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:23:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492840 <strong>Don’t forget </strong>to put out <strong>your IMPEACH signs today…</strong> ...and you may want to add an "inter Jonah Goldberg sign too! Don’t forget to put out your IMPEACH signs today…

…and you may want to add an “inter Jonah Goldberg sign too!

]]> By: Lisa Johnson http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492822 Lisa Johnson Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:45:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492822 All I can say about Goldberg and the rest of the neocons who are trashing Ms. Carroll and her demeanor after being held hostage for almost 3 months is what a bunch of assholes. We should send all of them to Iraq and let them be held hostage for 3 months and see how they turn out at the backside of it. I, for one, am very thankful that Ms. Carroll made it through her horrendous experience relatively unscathed physcially. Who knows what kind of psychological trauma she underwent. These people, Goldberg et al have no shame, no empathy, and no compassion. They make me want to puke. All I can say about Goldberg and the rest of the neocons who are trashing Ms. Carroll and her demeanor after being held hostage for almost 3 months is what a bunch of assholes. We should send all of them to Iraq and let them be held hostage for 3 months and see how they turn out at the backside of it. I, for one, am very thankful that Ms. Carroll made it through her horrendous experience relatively unscathed physcially. Who knows what kind of psychological trauma she underwent.

These people, Goldberg et al have no shame, no empathy, and no compassion.

They make me want to puke.

]]> By: droogiedin http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492819 droogiedin Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:31:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492819 I'm glad she's safe and 'sound'. Is it time to ask some questions about the ordeal? Could it be that; The bodyguard was really the intended target and the 'kidnappers' weren't really kidnappers? They did out of the ordinary things, maybe they really didn't know what to do with her. We kidanapped her ourselves to be used as a useful tool in a war desparately needing good news? Money may have been exchanged for her release? I’m glad she’s safe and ’sound’.

Is it time to ask some questions about the ordeal? Could it be that;

The bodyguard was really the intended target and the ‘kidnappers’ weren’t really kidnappers? They did out of the ordinary things, maybe they really didn’t know what to do with her.

We kidanapped her ourselves to be used as a useful tool in a war desparately needing good news?

Money may have been exchanged for her release?

]]> By: nellieh http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492802 nellieh Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:46:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492802 Jonah is the product of his skanky mother and hasn't completely left the nest. I bet he phones her nightly for how to. Jonah is the product of his skanky mother and hasn’t completely left the nest. I bet he phones her nightly for how to.

]]> By: reasonablel liberal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492750 reasonablel liberal Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:18:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492750 I don't see the point of this post. I hate to agree with Powerline or Jonah Goldberg on anything, but they come out being more reasonable here. Ms. Carroll went through a horrifying ordeal. Her praise of the insurgents as "good people fighting an honorable fight while the Americans are here as an occupying force treating the people in a very bad way" seems coerced according to Jonah Goldberg, as well as a counter-terrorism expert quoted by CNN, her editor at the Monitor, and yes, you guessed it, Jill Carroll's own father. I think in the coming days, you'll see her thoughts change as well as she recovers and starts thinking clearly. You should instead focus on the truly awful and disgusting comments on the Imus show that you were right to highlight. I don’t see the point of this post. I hate to agree with Powerline or Jonah Goldberg on anything, but they come out being more reasonable here. Ms. Carroll went through a horrifying ordeal. Her praise of the insurgents as “good people fighting an honorable fight while the Americans are here as an occupying force treating the people in a very bad way” seems coerced according to Jonah Goldberg, as well as a counter-terrorism expert quoted by CNN, her editor at the Monitor, and yes, you guessed it, Jill Carroll’s own father.

I think in the coming days, you’ll see her thoughts change as well as she recovers and starts thinking clearly.

You should instead focus on the truly awful and disgusting comments on the Imus show that you were right to highlight.

]]> By: Mme flutterbye http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492742 Mme flutterbye Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:55:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492742 The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. What vicous cowards are the Goldbergs. How nice to sit in a comfy office and write opinions about which they know nothing...and then get paid for them!!! What a world!!! The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. What vicous cowards are the Goldbergs. How nice to sit in a comfy office and write opinions about which they know nothing…and then get paid for them!!! What a world!!!

]]> By: CowardlyHypocritalRepublicans http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492738 CowardlyHypocritalRepublicans Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:45:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492738 If Jonah Goldberg managed to survive 3 months as a captive, he no doubt would've said or done anything humanly imaginable to save his skin. That includes anything he's accused Jill Carroll of and no doubt much worse. I would wager that Jonah Goldberg would be likened to the prison version of Jeff Gannon after his stay. If Jonah Goldberg managed to survive 3 months as a captive, he no doubt would’ve said or done anything humanly imaginable to save his skin. That includes anything he’s accused Jill Carroll of and no doubt much worse. I would wager that Jonah Goldberg would be likened to the prison version of Jeff Gannon after his stay.

]]> By: John B. Brown http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/comment-page-3/#comment-492714 John B. Brown Sat, 01 Apr 2006 07:29:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/31/jonah-goldberg-responds-im-thinking-more-clearly-than-jill-carroll/#comment-492714 Sheesh, don't any of you listen to NPR news? The CSM collegue in Baghdad explained that Jill Caroll was under threat from her captors to say nothing about them or they would reach in to the Green Zone and whack her. DUH! It seems she has her head pretty well screwed down and is holding her mud pretty well, all things considered. Let the craporatti crap on. Emulate #25. Sheesh, don’t any of you listen to NPR news? The CSM collegue in Baghdad explained that Jill Caroll was under threat from her captors to say nothing about them or they would reach in to the Green Zone and whack her. DUH! It seems she has her head pretty well screwed down and is holding her mud pretty well, all things considered. Let the craporatti crap on. Emulate #25.

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