I’d like to know why the blogs have done little if NOTHING (that I can see) to promote the movie V for Vendetta – this is a very important movie for NOW and is more accessible than Syriana or Fahrenheit 9/11.
I saw this film last night and man! I have never been so inspired to believe in the power of people and hope. I thought the film was going to be a piece of crap but I was so, so wrong. Go see this movie and tell everyone you know about it. The Republicans will hate it because it deals with everything our government is doing (Torture, War, Terrorism, Purification of minorities, etc.) and foreshadows what will happen in the future.
Seems to me they only made one mistake…now it was one hell of a mistake, in fact history will write it a the biggest mistake the USA ever made, but it was only one mistake..can’t understand why Ms.Oil Tanker would claim thousands of mistakes
Man,
People get fired in this administration for speaking the truth. For once, I think I respect Condi. Well maybe not, but this is definately a move in the right direction.
I’d like to know why the blogs have done little if NOTHING (that I can see) to promote the movie V for Vendetta – this is a very important movie for NOW …
Comment by JP
JP, I totally agree. Why aren’t the blogs promoting Guy Fawkes masks? Why isn’t there a call for a rally where everyone wears one? That would make a huge statement!
#8 Thousands of mistakes are made in every war. So other than lame knee-jerk Bush hatred, waht is your point?
Comment by Pro-Democracy
It’s hardly “knee-jerk Bush hatred” to discuss the incompetency of this administration. Many tactical and strategic mistakes have been made leading up to the invasion of Iraq, during the drive to Baghdad, and now during the insurgency. An informed and intelligent electorate should and must try to actively direct its representative government to make corrections and stop throwing good money and good lives away on this mistake. It’s not personal in any way.
Thousands of mistakes are made in every war. So other than lame knee-jerk Bush hatred, waht is your point?
Comment by Pro-Democracy
Well, Pro, I guess part of the point is that finally, SOMEONE in the administration has finally admitted a mistake was made. Bush created his own hatred by spending 4+ years denying he has made any mistakes.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you calling yourself “Pro-Democracy” must mean the rest of us are anti-democracy, huh? Tell me, Pro, what does secret wiretapping and spying on American citizens, secret energy deals for the oil and gas companies in the a back room of Cheney’s White House office, and the leaders of this country lying to the American people have to do with democracy?
I’m thinking we should ship junior over there on helichopper one, dressed in his pajama flight suit with the ‘mission accomplished’ banner draped around his neck and a sling-shot for protection, to straighten things out.
I honestly try never to let my knee jerk … so, please, cite something about GWB that will make me hate him less, because quite honestly the sheer volume of hatred I feel for the man /is/ a bit overpowering.
Invading iraq is a strategic error in the same degree as Hitler’s invasion of Russia, which was a strategic mistake on the same order as Napoleon’s invasion of Russia. So my question is, will bush die in a bunker or in exile?
#14 — Stick to the subject. . . bush/cheney in a continual state of denial about driving American into the largest debt of any country in the world -ever- and the loss of international respect ~ not to mention the thousands of lives lost or forever damaged by the unprovoked attack on Iraq?
Chase you should be thankful your posts are not deleted. Mine always get deleted on your favorite blogs. A congresswoman slapping a cop is wrong, she deserves anger management classes. Now back to all your corrupt people.
“oh SW Bob – asking folks to stick to the subject when the comment is less than flattering to the left.”
I’d laugh, but your precious cop is very much alive while the 10s of 1000s of INNOCENT PEOPLE slaughtered because of the decisions of your shining Republican heroes are very much dead.
So laugh and dance and sing, you paragon of virtue!
I love how Rice paints the future as a place where this awful decision for invasion will be vindicated. Nice tactic of saying “hey, look to the maybe possibly good future. Not this mess that is going on right now.” Creating their own reality is the only thing this administration is capable of doing. Too bad its only in their own heads.
Please will the US take Condoleezza Rice back as soon as possible; I’m sick of having to watch news reports of her visit to the UK today. She had to cancel a visit to a mosque in Blackburn Lancashire England, (the constituency of British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw). Because of the threat of protests by the stop the war coalition, and the objections from local Muslims.
Has this even been playing over there in the US, or has a rosy picture been painted of her visit to the UK?
Condi’s over here, so you don’t have to put up with her over there.
Diet, Six Pack and all: Ignore the trolls please. You know the next thing he is going to say is: ” And Clinton got a blow job in the White House on New Year’s Eve……what do you have to say to that , huh, huh , huh….”
How bout this for a tactical error–a congresswoman assaulting a police officer.
Any defense? Anyone?
Comment by Chase
How about this for a defense NO BODY CARES. When American soldiers and innocent women and children are being killed, when that god damn piece of paper the Constitution of the United States is under attack, when politicians are openly accepting bribes, when government officials are making secret pacts with foreign powers … a black woman slaping a cop that is grabbing her just looks totally petty…
imagine is, say, tom tancredo had slugged a capitol cop?
what do you think this site would be doing? jacking it self off in a fit of ecstacy, that’s what.
Comment by Chase
What if ….What if it was Diane Finstien who had been Abramoff’s bagman instead of DeLay….what if it was Obama instead of Duke Cunningham……what if it was….
I mean, what if was the democrats who had won the 2004 election and was getting the blame——–but of course, it wasn’t, hehe. Be a man, pal, and stand up for your presidents mistakes.
I would rather have a slap in the face by a lady than Bush running into me on his mountain bike, or Cheney shooting me in the face, or Abramoff ripping me off to the tune of millions, or Delay gerrymandering my state, or being in New Orleans getting totally blown off as I am screwed, or being tricked into getting killed in Iraq, or my family member dead from a illegitimate war, or losing my privacy, or being given a 30,000 bill from my government for a debt I did not incurr, or being told I would be a criminal if I helped an illegal immigrant, lose my healthcare, pay for rich people to get richer, have religious fundamentalists dictate policy and my life, have my free speech taken away…. any more I missed?
#32, come on Nick, can’t one of you get close enough for an egging? The First Amendment Zones here are all out of range for egg throwers and the secret police can arrest you for throwing even American eggs for ‘un-American activites’.
Only caught NPR (close to BBC radio) coverage of Condi – all about Lancashire hot pot and not being able to go into a mosque or go see Blackburn Rovers play. Not seen anyone make a point of the general opposition to her being there – some comment about ’several hundred anti-war protesetors who are not all muslim’. Sounds to me like everyone loves having here there. You’ll need to up the aggro a notch.
I’d like to know why the blogs have done little if NOTHING (that I can see) to promote the movie V for Vendetta – this is a very important movie for NOW and is more accessible than Syriana or Fahrenheit 9/11.
I saw this film last night and man! I have never been so inspired to believe in the power of people and hope. I thought the film was going to be a piece of crap but I was so, so wrong. Go see this movie and tell everyone you know about it. The Republicans will hate it because it deals with everything our government is doing (Torture, War, Terrorism, Purification of minorities, etc.) and foreshadows what will happen in the future.
Comment by JP — March 31, 2006 @ 11:47 am
actually one needs only look at the european tudor period…
your point is well taken
Let me get this straight: our country is embroiled in not one but two wars (Iraq and oh look, the Taliban are back!) Our Economy is ‘robust’ unless you consider the massive amounts of unsecured personal debt (those very creative mortgages everyone is getting), devaluing of real wages and the historically unprecendented national debt and trade imbalance, with leaders who actively seek to undermine the US constitution for gain of their particular political party, elected officials indicted for taking money in exchange for legislation, and the best the right can respond with is…
“Um…. like… one of your congresswomen like punched a cop or something.”
So what’s Condi’s plan to correct all the mistakes they’ve made?
I bet it will be revealed that there is suddenly a thaw in US/Iran relations. The only time the Bush Cabal admits to any wrongdoing is when they really really really need something from the other party.
Only caught NPR (close to BBC radio) coverage of Condi – all about Lancashire hot pot and not being able to go into a mosque or go see Blackburn Rovers play. Not seen anyone make a point of the general opposition to her being there – some comment about ’several hundred anti-war protesetors who are not all muslim’. Sounds to me like everyone loves having here there. You’ll need to up the aggro a notch.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
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Terry,
Condoleezza Rice is at a concert in Liverpool tonight, the Philharmonic Orchestra are playing. With around an hour before she is due to arrive at the venue, there is already a large presence of protestors, who are in fine voice, and ready to vent their spleens.
Terry wrote: a comment in regard to a broadcaster stating that ‘about several hundred anti-war protestors who are not all Muslim’.
Comment: What so because they’re not all Muslims, the protests take on more significance, do they? What a stupid statement to make by this particular broadcaster. Every conceivable type of person represents the ‘Stop The War Coalition’. Peoples from of all religious faiths represent the movement. The young and the old are represented. And people from different social classes, disagreed with the Iraq War, and feel the need to protest.
So to state that it’s not just Muslims who are protesting, is a little disingenuous by the broadcaster, and it gives the impression that mainly people from the Muslim faith are against the war, along with a few token white or black people.
See? Now that pisses me off right there. Since when does she get to decide how history will judge anything. Further, we are judging her and the administration and they are corrupt, incompetent and criminal!
Haven’t the Rethugs criticized those who have criticized the USA while overseas? Haven’t they lambasted Democrats who express contrary-to-the-administration notions when they are not on American soil?
#49, Agreed, and that’s the station that’s been called ‘National Communist Radio’ by the luminaries at Fox and the right-wing blogosphere. Greg Palast calls living in the US being ‘behind the electronic curtain’ and you can begin to see why… Although I noticed the BBC website too joined in abit by subliminally suggesting with their choice of photograph the Socialist Workers were the only ones joining the Blackburn muslims ‘on the barricades’.
Yes, Condi, this illegal war with all the tactical mistakes will be remembered in history as ONE BIG MISTAKE made by a president that takes stupid pills with his breakfast.
Is that strategic decision, to have so little faith in your decision, that you have to take a great nation to war on lies, and then do it so incompetently.
#51, “when does she get to decide how history will judge anything”, “The one who tells the stories rules the world.” Hopi proverb
John Dean is before the committee talking about support for Feingold’s call for censure. The ReichWingNuts claim it’s only a Dem election year ploy. Won’t they be surprised if they are all voted out of office?
…”To me, this is not really and should not be a partisan question,” Dean told the panel. “I think it’s a question of institutional pride of this body, of the Congress of the United States.”
He added in prepared testimony that if Congress doesn’t have the stomach for Feingold’s resolution as drafted, it should pass some measure serving Bush a warning.
“The resolution should be amended, not defeated, because the president needs to be reminded that separation of powers does not mean an isolation of powers,” Dean said…
“If we in the Congress don’t stand up for ourselves and the American people, we become complicit in the lawbreaking,” Feingold said. “The resolution of censure is the appropriate response.”
But Hatch, R-Utah, said that passing a censure resolution would do more harm than good.
“Wartime is not a time to weaken the commander-in-chief,” he said…
“I know we’ve made tactical errors, thousands of them, I’m sure,†Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said today, speaking about Iraq. “But when you look back in history what will be judged on is†whether the “right strategic decision†was made.
Wasn’t the Little Big Horn’s Battle, a tactical error made by Custer?
If anybody is interested in seeing or reading what Condoleezza Rice had to say today, in regard to her visit to the UK. Here is the BBC’s website address, and also the video of her speech.
“‘Yes, I know we have made tactical errors, thousands of them,’ she said in answer to a question over whether lessons had been learnt since the U.S.-led invasion.”
Tactical instead of strategic? To me this sounds like “flawed intelligence”; passing the buck – only this time it’s the military’s fault instead of the CIA.
Who’s left? They’re running out of scapegoats; I guess it will be the American public’s fault next.
“‘Yes, I know we have made tactical errors, thousands of them,’ she said in answer to a question over whether lessons had been learnt since the U.S.-led invasion.â€
#21 We can always tell a troll by the sexual inuendo/obsession. Oh and by the off topic, everybody look over posts. So do you think they made thousands of tactical errors? Why do you think they have a sudden change in attitude?
Thousands of wrongs = one right. Hmm…something fishy about that logic. I can’t quite put my finger on it. Oh, yeah, now I remember: it’s totally stupid.
Chase, “look at the shiny keys” doesn’t work on us. That only works right wing Stepfords who listen to Hannity and Limbaugh. It seems that one big mistake was made and that was letting right-wing lunatics vote this criminal administration into office.
This administration’s “mistakes” were willfull, wanton, and borne out of carelessness and absolute disregard for the facts.
All the available evidence was ignored in their push to sell the war to a gullible American public. Like this one:
[Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen J. ] Hadley was particularly concerned that the public might learn of a classified one-page summary of a National Intelligence Estimate, specifically written for Bush in October 2002. The summary said that although “most agencies judge” that the aluminum tubes were “related to a uranium enrichment effort,” the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research and the Energy Department’s intelligence branch “believe that the tubes more likely are intended for conventional weapons.”
Three months after receiving that assessment, the president stated without qualification in his January 28, 2003, State of the Union address: “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production.” PREWAR INTELLIGENCE – Insulating Bush
How about this other “mistake” -Pres Bush’s lie during his most recent press conference:
(…)and therefore, we worked with the world, we worked to make sure that Saddam Hussein heard the message of the world. And when he chose to deny inspectors, when he chose not to disclose, then I had the difficult decision to make to remove him. And we did, and the world is safer for it.
–Pres George Bush, March 21, 2006 during a press conference
Pres Bush is still trying to rewrite history claiming Hussein denied the inspectors’ entry into Iraq and that he refused to cooperate.
I don’t recall anyone (even ThinkProgress) covering this one -but then it’s really tough to keep up with all the lies coming out of the White House.
#71 You know, I’ve heard Bush say that, and I’ve got to think that he believes he is saying something different than the obvious. He must think that he’s saying Saddam didn’t fully cooperate with the inspectors in early 2003 prior to the invasion. The Repubs argue that since Saddam didn’t fall all over himself revealing everything he might possibly have, that this was effectively denying the inspectors and denying the inspection process. They think that if Saddam wasn’t a 110% willing, smiling, lemonade-serving participant like Kadafi was in Libya, then he was denying the inspections.
That’s my understanding of how Bush and the Repubs parse their way around the obvious meaning of the words that Bush speaks.
They think that if Saddam wasn’t a 110% willing, smiling, lemonade-serving participant like Kadafi was in Libya, then he was denying the inspections.
Comment by CZ-1 — March 31, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
It probably is something like that -although I doubt Hussein could have met whatever expectation the Bush administration had.
They simply were bent on invading Iraq, the world be damned.
Also, we don’t need to wait for history to judge them, as it is happening right now (I love these quotes):
Bush’s invasion of Iraq [is] “the greatest strategic disaster in United States history.â€
–Lt. Gen. William Odom, director of the National Security Agency during President Reagan’s second term, and a scholar with a distinguished career in military intelligence. The Greatest Strategic Disaster in U.S. History
Bush arguably has committed the greatest strategic blunder in modern memory. To put it bluntly, he attacked the wrong target. While he boasts of removing Saddam Hussein from power, he did far more than that. He decapitated the government of a country that was not directly threatening the United States and, in so doing, bogged down a huge percentage of our military in a region that never has known peace.
–James Webb Jr., first Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs during the Reagan Administration, and former Secretary of the Navy Veterans Face Conundrum: Kerry or Bush?
The “right strategic decision was made”? I don’t think so…
This ENTIRE war was a huge mistake. I said before the 1st shot was fired, that marching in there is an EXTREMELY BAD IDEA, my coworkers said I should leave the country instead of listening to me. Basically consider ‘I told you so’ already said.
No, no, not tactical but strategic mistakes! Dumbya is a fool! There is a growing perception among citizens that dumbya is incompetent — very low presidential job approval rating 33% Pew Research – Americans describe dumbya in a single word – incompetent, idiot, liar…recent polls indicate that half of those who voted for Dumbya in 2004 now think he is a total moron.
[...] War Cabinet Infighting: Donald Rumsfeld said he did not know what Condi Rice was talking about when she said last week that the U.S. had made “thousands of tactical errors” in Iraq. “[Y]ou have to constantly adjust and change your tactics. … If someone says, well, that’s a tactical mistake, then I guess it’s a lack of understanding, at least my understanding, of what warfare is about.” [...]
“But when you look back in history what will be judged on is†whether the “right strategic decision†was made.
She got that right… that IS how this all will be judged…
March 31st, 2006 at 11:43 amTactical errors are not stategic???
March 31st, 2006 at 11:44 amThe only right strategic decision now is to IMPEACH the entire Bush administration.
March 31st, 2006 at 11:44 amDIRTY RICE – THE RUN-A-WAY SECRETARY
OF STATE.
lol
March 31st, 2006 at 11:46 amTOTALLY OFF THE SUBJECT, but not far from it
I’d like to know why the blogs have done little if NOTHING (that I can see) to promote the movie V for Vendetta – this is a very important movie for NOW and is more accessible than Syriana or Fahrenheit 9/11.
I saw this film last night and man! I have never been so inspired to believe in the power of people and hope. I thought the film was going to be a piece of crap but I was so, so wrong. Go see this movie and tell everyone you know about it. The Republicans will hate it because it deals with everything our government is doing (Torture, War, Terrorism, Purification of minorities, etc.) and foreshadows what will happen in the future.
March 31st, 2006 at 11:47 amSeems to me they only made one mistake…now it was one hell of a mistake, in fact history will write it a the biggest mistake the USA ever made, but it was only one mistake..can’t understand why Ms.Oil Tanker would claim thousands of mistakes
March 31st, 2006 at 11:48 amMan,
March 31st, 2006 at 11:51 amPeople get fired in this administration for speaking the truth. For once, I think I respect Condi. Well maybe not, but this is definately a move in the right direction.
Thousands of mistakes are made in every war. So other than lame knee-jerk Bush hatred, waht is your point?
March 31st, 2006 at 11:51 am#5
Tried those “eggs in a basket” yet? They’re great!
Sure would freak “them” out if people started wearing that mask at rallies and the like.
BTW-
http://www.condiriceisangry.com/
March 31st, 2006 at 11:53 amI’d like to know why the blogs have done little if NOTHING (that I can see) to promote the movie V for Vendetta – this is a very important movie for NOW …
Comment by JP
JP, I totally agree. Why aren’t the blogs promoting Guy Fawkes masks? Why isn’t there a call for a rally where everyone wears one? That would make a huge statement!
March 31st, 2006 at 11:54 am#8 Thousands of mistakes are made in every war. So other than lame knee-jerk Bush hatred, waht is your point?
Comment by Pro-Democracy
It’s hardly “knee-jerk Bush hatred” to discuss the incompetency of this administration. Many tactical and strategic mistakes have been made leading up to the invasion of Iraq, during the drive to Baghdad, and now during the insurgency. An informed and intelligent electorate should and must try to actively direct its representative government to make corrections and stop throwing good money and good lives away on this mistake. It’s not personal in any way.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:01 pmThousands of mistakes are made in every war. So other than lame knee-jerk Bush hatred, waht is your point?
Comment by Pro-Democracy
Well, Pro, I guess part of the point is that finally, SOMEONE in the administration has finally admitted a mistake was made. Bush created his own hatred by spending 4+ years denying he has made any mistakes.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you calling yourself “Pro-Democracy” must mean the rest of us are anti-democracy, huh? Tell me, Pro, what does secret wiretapping and spying on American citizens, secret energy deals for the oil and gas companies in the a back room of Cheney’s White House office, and the leaders of this country lying to the American people have to do with democracy?
Dipshit.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:04 pmDEMOCRACY RULES!!!!!!!!111111
March 31st, 2006 at 12:07 pmHow bout this for a tactical error–a congresswoman assaulting a police officer.
Any defense? Anyone?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:08 pmI’m thinking we should ship junior over there on helichopper one, dressed in his pajama flight suit with the ‘mission accomplished’ banner draped around his neck and a sling-shot for protection, to straighten things out.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:12 pm“other than lame knee-jerk Bush hatred”
I honestly try never to let my knee jerk … so, please, cite something about GWB that will make me hate him less, because quite honestly the sheer volume of hatred I feel for the man /is/ a bit overpowering.
Thanks!
March 31st, 2006 at 12:14 pmInvading iraq is a strategic error in the same degree as Hitler’s invasion of Russia, which was a strategic mistake on the same order as Napoleon’s invasion of Russia. So my question is, will bush die in a bunker or in exile?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:14 pm#14
March 31st, 2006 at 12:15 pmNice lob there….too bad it’s a wet noodle.
How bout this for a tactical error–a congresswoman assaulting a police officer.
Any defense? Anyone?
Comment by Chase
No. She is just another dipshit.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but kind of like that that pasty-faced Cheney telling a senator on the floor of congress to go f*ck himself.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:16 pm#14 — Stick to the subject. . . bush/cheney in a continual state of denial about driving American into the largest debt of any country in the world -ever- and the loss of international respect ~ not to mention the thousands of lives lost or forever damaged by the unprovoked attack on Iraq?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:17 pmdlet: a wet noodle?
what? what? what? what?
imagine is, say, tom tancredo had slugged a capitol cop?
what do you think this site would be doing? jacking it self off in a fit of ecstacy, that’s what.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:18 pmHitler was also sure history would vindicate him for exterminating 6 million Jews. I guess it’s too early in history to judge?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:18 pm#19
March 31st, 2006 at 12:18 pmOr the vice-prez shooting a man in the face….let’s see bird shot at 150 mph or a hand to the face…your choice
How bout this for a tactical error–a troll posting about the wrong subject in a lame attempt to derail a valid thread.
Any defense? Anyone?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:19 pmoh SW Bob – asking folks to stick to the subject when the comment is less than flattering to the left.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:20 pmHmm. So according to Rice, in the future, thousands of mistakes will be equated to the “right strategic decision”?
Ok then.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:20 pmChase you should be thankful your posts are not deleted. Mine always get deleted on your favorite blogs. A congresswoman slapping a cop is wrong, she deserves anger management classes. Now back to all your corrupt people.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:23 pm“oh SW Bob – asking folks to stick to the subject when the comment is less than flattering to the left.”
I’d laugh, but your precious cop is very much alive while the 10s of 1000s of INNOCENT PEOPLE slaughtered because of the decisions of your shining Republican heroes are very much dead.
So laugh and dance and sing, you paragon of virtue!
March 31st, 2006 at 12:23 pmWouldn’t it be nice if she was asked to list the top 10 worst mistakes? any takers?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:23 pmi’m not derailing, your thread is valid.
i just want to hear the real chimps hoot and holler their shoddy apologies and “look the other way” tactics.
neither side of the aisle is any better than the other. both are full of shithead blowhards that lie, cover up and spin at every opportunity.
as for bush, i dont care for the guy. but i dislike terrorists more.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:24 pmI love how Rice paints the future as a place where this awful decision for invasion will be vindicated. Nice tactic of saying “hey, look to the maybe possibly good future. Not this mess that is going on right now.” Creating their own reality is the only thing this administration is capable of doing. Too bad its only in their own heads.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:25 pmPlease will the US take Condoleezza Rice back as soon as possible; I’m sick of having to watch news reports of her visit to the UK today. She had to cancel a visit to a mosque in Blackburn Lancashire England, (the constituency of British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw). Because of the threat of protests by the stop the war coalition, and the objections from local Muslims.
Has this even been playing over there in the US, or has a rosy picture been painted of her visit to the UK?
Condi’s over here, so you don’t have to put up with her over there.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:27 pmDiet, Six Pack and all: Ignore the trolls please. You know the next thing he is going to say is: ” And Clinton got a blow job in the White House on New Year’s Eve……what do you have to say to that , huh, huh , huh….”
Ron White said it best: You can’t fix stupid.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:27 pm“as for bush, i dont care for the guy. but i dislike terrorists more.”
What is the distinction here? I don’t see one.
Plus the 10s of 1000s of innocents weren’t terrorists, so …? again your point escapes me.
Bush has sown the seed for more future terrorists than I care to contemplate.
But yeah, smacking a cop — that’s important to think about. Hey, what’s a few limbless, screaming, bleeding children amongst friends?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:27 pmCongressman Ron Paul (R-TX) talks about the ‘right strategic decision’….
March 31st, 2006 at 12:29 pm#33, Abby, you are correct. Sorry. I forgot and got carried away.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:30 pmHow bout this for a tactical error–a congresswoman assaulting a police officer.
Any defense? Anyone?
Comment by Chase
How about this for a defense NO BODY CARES. When American soldiers and innocent women and children are being killed, when that god damn piece of paper the Constitution of the United States is under attack, when politicians are openly accepting bribes, when government officials are making secret pacts with foreign powers … a black woman slaping a cop that is grabbing her just looks totally petty…
March 31st, 2006 at 12:31 pmimagine is, say, tom tancredo had slugged a capitol cop?
what do you think this site would be doing? jacking it self off in a fit of ecstacy, that’s what.
Comment by Chase
What if ….What if it was Diane Finstien who had been Abramoff’s bagman instead of DeLay….what if it was Obama instead of Duke Cunningham……what if it was….
I mean, what if was the democrats who had won the 2004 election and was getting the blame——–but of course, it wasn’t, hehe. Be a man, pal, and stand up for your presidents mistakes.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:31 pm#33
March 31st, 2006 at 12:32 pmYeah I know, I was just in the mood. But that wears thin quickly.
I would rather have a slap in the face by a lady than Bush running into me on his mountain bike, or Cheney shooting me in the face, or Abramoff ripping me off to the tune of millions, or Delay gerrymandering my state, or being in New Orleans getting totally blown off as I am screwed, or being tricked into getting killed in Iraq, or my family member dead from a illegitimate war, or losing my privacy, or being given a 30,000 bill from my government for a debt I did not incurr, or being told I would be a criminal if I helped an illegal immigrant, lose my healthcare, pay for rich people to get richer, have religious fundamentalists dictate policy and my life, have my free speech taken away…. any more I missed?
March 31st, 2006 at 12:34 pm#40
March 31st, 2006 at 12:36 pmHave my country’s reputation flushed down the toilet?
Thanks dlet, I forgot that one.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:37 pm#29 – I’d like to compare her list to mine. God, I wish she’d gotten that football commissioner job.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:39 pm#32, come on Nick, can’t one of you get close enough for an egging? The First Amendment Zones here are all out of range for egg throwers and the secret police can arrest you for throwing even American eggs for ‘un-American activites’.
Only caught NPR (close to BBC radio) coverage of Condi – all about Lancashire hot pot and not being able to go into a mosque or go see Blackburn Rovers play. Not seen anyone make a point of the general opposition to her being there – some comment about ’several hundred anti-war protesetors who are not all muslim’. Sounds to me like everyone loves having here there. You’ll need to up the aggro a notch.
March 31st, 2006 at 12:39 pm#44, the French know how to have a decent demo – bus some students in…
March 31st, 2006 at 12:43 pm#
TOTALLY OFF THE SUBJECT, but not far from it
I’d like to know why the blogs have done little if NOTHING (that I can see) to promote the movie V for Vendetta – this is a very important movie for NOW and is more accessible than Syriana or Fahrenheit 9/11.
I saw this film last night and man! I have never been so inspired to believe in the power of people and hope. I thought the film was going to be a piece of crap but I was so, so wrong. Go see this movie and tell everyone you know about it. The Republicans will hate it because it deals with everything our government is doing (Torture, War, Terrorism, Purification of minorities, etc.) and foreshadows what will happen in the future.
Comment by JP — March 31, 2006 @ 11:47 am
actually one needs only look at the european tudor period…
March 31st, 2006 at 12:54 pmyour point is well taken
Let me get this straight: our country is embroiled in not one but two wars (Iraq and oh look, the Taliban are back!) Our Economy is ‘robust’ unless you consider the massive amounts of unsecured personal debt (those very creative mortgages everyone is getting), devaluing of real wages and the historically unprecendented national debt and trade imbalance, with leaders who actively seek to undermine the US constitution for gain of their particular political party, elected officials indicted for taking money in exchange for legislation, and the best the right can respond with is…
“Um…. like… one of your congresswomen like punched a cop or something.”
March 31st, 2006 at 1:02 pmSo what’s Condi’s plan to correct all the mistakes they’ve made?
I bet it will be revealed that there is suddenly a thaw in US/Iran relations. The only time the Bush Cabal admits to any wrongdoing is when they really really really need something from the other party.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:10 pmOnly caught NPR (close to BBC radio) coverage of Condi – all about Lancashire hot pot and not being able to go into a mosque or go see Blackburn Rovers play. Not seen anyone make a point of the general opposition to her being there – some comment about ’several hundred anti-war protesetors who are not all muslim’. Sounds to me like everyone loves having here there. You’ll need to up the aggro a notch.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
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Terry,
Condoleezza Rice is at a concert in Liverpool tonight, the Philharmonic Orchestra are playing. With around an hour before she is due to arrive at the venue, there is already a large presence of protestors, who are in fine voice, and ready to vent their spleens.
Terry wrote: a comment in regard to a broadcaster stating that ‘about several hundred anti-war protestors who are not all Muslim’.
Comment: What so because they’re not all Muslims, the protests take on more significance, do they? What a stupid statement to make by this particular broadcaster. Every conceivable type of person represents the ‘Stop The War Coalition’. Peoples from of all religious faiths represent the movement. The young and the old are represented. And people from different social classes, disagreed with the Iraq War, and feel the need to protest.
So to state that it’s not just Muslims who are protesting, is a little disingenuous by the broadcaster, and it gives the impression that mainly people from the Muslim faith are against the war, along with a few token white or black people.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:15 pmWhat a lying POS that woman is. Impeach the chimp, sub chimp and rice chimp.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:17 pmSee? Now that pisses me off right there. Since when does she get to decide how history will judge anything. Further, we are judging her and the administration and they are corrupt, incompetent and criminal!
March 31st, 2006 at 1:19 pmHaven’t the Rethugs criticized those who have criticized the USA while overseas? Haven’t they lambasted Democrats who express contrary-to-the-administration notions when they are not on American soil?
March 31st, 2006 at 1:20 pmNew years eve is the perfect time to get a BJ from a red lipstick wearin chubby chick.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:24 pm#49, Agreed, and that’s the station that’s been called ‘National Communist Radio’ by the luminaries at Fox and the right-wing blogosphere. Greg Palast calls living in the US being ‘behind the electronic curtain’ and you can begin to see why… Although I noticed the BBC website too joined in abit by subliminally suggesting with their choice of photograph the Socialist Workers were the only ones joining the Blackburn muslims ‘on the barricades’.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:24 pmYes, Condi, this illegal war with all the tactical mistakes will be remembered in history as ONE BIG MISTAKE made by a president that takes stupid pills with his breakfast.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:30 pmIs that strategic decision, to have so little faith in your decision, that you have to take a great nation to war on lies, and then do it so incompetently.
#51, “when does she get to decide how history will judge anything”, “The one who tells the stories rules the world.” Hopi proverb
March 31st, 2006 at 1:33 pmAnd Condi, when stating “strategic” are you referring to Operation Iraqi Liberation – O.I.L. ? Oh, that was changed to operation iraqi freedom.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:34 pmJohn Dean is before the committee talking about support for Feingold’s call for censure. The ReichWingNuts claim it’s only a Dem election year ploy. Won’t they be surprised if they are all voted out of office?
…”To me, this is not really and should not be a partisan question,” Dean told the panel. “I think it’s a question of institutional pride of this body, of the Congress of the United States.”
He added in prepared testimony that if Congress doesn’t have the stomach for Feingold’s resolution as drafted, it should pass some measure serving Bush a warning.
“The resolution should be amended, not defeated, because the president needs to be reminded that separation of powers does not mean an isolation of powers,” Dean said…
“If we in the Congress don’t stand up for ourselves and the American people, we become complicit in the lawbreaking,” Feingold said. “The resolution of censure is the appropriate response.”
But Hatch, R-Utah, said that passing a censure resolution would do more harm than good.
“Wartime is not a time to weaken the commander-in-chief,” he said…
[from: http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/espionage_and_intelligence ]
ReichWingNut’s heads are spinning, just like those possessed by Satan Himself.
March 31st, 2006 at 1:37 pm“I know we’ve made tactical errors, thousands of them, I’m sure,†Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said today, speaking about Iraq. “But when you look back in history what will be judged on is†whether the “right strategic decision†was made.
Wasn’t the Little Big Horn’s Battle, a tactical error made by Custer?
March 31st, 2006 at 1:47 pmIf anybody is interested in seeing or reading what Condoleezza Rice had to say today, in regard to her visit to the UK. Here is the BBC’s website address, and also the video of her speech.
BBC Webpage:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
BBC Video:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi/bb_rm_fs.stm?nbram=1&news=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1&nol_storyid=4864134
March 31st, 2006 at 1:57 pm“‘Yes, I know we have made tactical errors, thousands of them,’ she said in answer to a question over whether lessons had been learnt since the U.S.-led invasion.”
Tactical instead of strategic? To me this sounds like “flawed intelligence”; passing the buck – only this time it’s the military’s fault instead of the CIA.
Who’s left? They’re running out of scapegoats; I guess it will be the American public’s fault next.
March 31st, 2006 at 2:02 pm“‘Yes, I know we have made tactical errors, thousands of them,’ she said in answer to a question over whether lessons had been learnt since the U.S.-led invasion.â€
At last count, 2300+ and counting.
March 31st, 2006 at 2:04 pm#21 We can always tell a troll by the sexual inuendo/obsession. Oh and by the off topic, everybody look over posts. So do you think they made thousands of tactical errors? Why do you think they have a sudden change in attitude?
March 31st, 2006 at 2:29 pmThousands of wrongs = one right. Hmm…something fishy about that logic. I can’t quite put my finger on it. Oh, yeah, now I remember: it’s totally stupid.
March 31st, 2006 at 2:37 pmChase, “look at the shiny keys” doesn’t work on us. That only works right wing Stepfords who listen to Hannity and Limbaugh. It seems that one big mistake was made and that was letting right-wing lunatics vote this criminal administration into office.
March 31st, 2006 at 3:46 pmThis administration’s “mistakes” were willfull, wanton, and borne out of carelessness and absolute disregard for the facts.
All the available evidence was ignored in their push to sell the war to a gullible American public. Like this one:
[Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen J. ] Hadley was particularly concerned that the public might learn of a classified one-page summary of a National Intelligence Estimate, specifically written for Bush in October 2002. The summary said that although “most agencies judge” that the aluminum tubes were “related to a uranium enrichment effort,” the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research and the Energy Department’s intelligence branch “believe that the tubes more likely are intended for conventional weapons.”
March 31st, 2006 at 3:46 pmThree months after receiving that assessment, the president stated without qualification in his January 28, 2003, State of the Union address: “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production.”
PREWAR INTELLIGENCE – Insulating Bush
Mistakes. Thousands of Them….
t seems to be quite an admission from Secretary of State Rice. In fact, I’m amazed that she said this….
March 31st, 2006 at 4:06 pmHow about this other “mistake” -Pres Bush’s lie during his most recent press conference:
(…)and therefore, we worked with the world, we worked to make sure that Saddam Hussein heard the message of the world. And when he chose to deny inspectors, when he chose not to disclose, then I had the difficult decision to make to remove him. And we did, and the world is safer for it.
–Pres George Bush, March 21, 2006 during a press conference
Pres Bush is still trying to rewrite history claiming Hussein denied the inspectors’ entry into Iraq and that he refused to cooperate.
I don’t recall anyone (even ThinkProgress) covering this one -but then it’s really tough to keep up with all the lies coming out of the White House.
March 31st, 2006 at 4:17 pm#71 You know, I’ve heard Bush say that, and I’ve got to think that he believes he is saying something different than the obvious. He must think that he’s saying Saddam didn’t fully cooperate with the inspectors in early 2003 prior to the invasion. The Repubs argue that since Saddam didn’t fall all over himself revealing everything he might possibly have, that this was effectively denying the inspectors and denying the inspection process. They think that if Saddam wasn’t a 110% willing, smiling, lemonade-serving participant like Kadafi was in Libya, then he was denying the inspections.
That’s my understanding of how Bush and the Repubs parse their way around the obvious meaning of the words that Bush speaks.
March 31st, 2006 at 4:38 pmThey think that if Saddam wasn’t a 110% willing, smiling, lemonade-serving participant like Kadafi was in Libya, then he was denying the inspections.
Comment by CZ-1 — March 31, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
It probably is something like that -although I doubt Hussein could have met whatever expectation the Bush administration had.
They simply were bent on invading Iraq, the world be damned.
Also, we don’t need to wait for history to judge them, as it is happening right now (I love these quotes):
Bush’s invasion of Iraq [is] “the greatest strategic disaster in United States history.â€
–Lt. Gen. William Odom, director of the National Security Agency during President Reagan’s second term, and a scholar with a distinguished career in military intelligence.
The Greatest Strategic Disaster in U.S. History
Bush arguably has committed the greatest strategic blunder in modern memory. To put it bluntly, he attacked the wrong target. While he boasts of removing Saddam Hussein from power, he did far more than that. He decapitated the government of a country that was not directly threatening the United States and, in so doing, bogged down a huge percentage of our military in a region that never has known peace.
–James Webb Jr., first Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs during the Reagan Administration, and former Secretary of the Navy
Veterans Face Conundrum: Kerry or Bush?
The “right strategic decision was made”? I don’t think so…
March 31st, 2006 at 4:56 pmShe’s going to hell.
March 31st, 2006 at 8:04 pmDid she admit you could fill a football stadium with ours and Iraqi dead?#74 she is already in Hell.
April 1st, 2006 at 12:48 amShe is “going to burn in a very special level of Hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.”
Anyone know the reference?
April 1st, 2006 at 1:41 am#76.No; ,but Spudge_Boy might.
April 1st, 2006 at 3:20 amBut Hatch, R-Utah, said that passing a censure resolution would do more harm than good.
Comment by Jesus Christ God of WAR #58
Yo, JCGW!
…why don’t you email that TREASONOUS mofo’ing whOrrin Hack and his Bushite team mate John”trick”Cornhole…
…at ussenate.com…
…and tell them what TRAITORS they are!
I did…hell, I always do…
…and it felt GRRRREEEAAAT!
April 1st, 2006 at 10:30 am…don’t forget to put your IMPEACH signs out today…
April 1st, 2006 at 10:31 amCundti’s a house slave…
…she and Clarence are in a contest to see…
…which one ‘de massa’ will pee on first…
April 1st, 2006 at 10:34 amThis ENTIRE war was a huge mistake. I said before the 1st shot was fired, that marching in there is an EXTREMELY BAD IDEA, my coworkers said I should leave the country instead of listening to me. Basically consider ‘I told you so’ already said.
April 1st, 2006 at 6:50 pmNo, no, not tactical but strategic mistakes! Dumbya is a fool! There is a growing perception among citizens that dumbya is incompetent — very low presidential job approval rating 33% Pew Research – Americans describe dumbya in a single word – incompetent, idiot, liar…recent polls indicate that half of those who voted for Dumbya in 2004 now think he is a total moron.
April 2nd, 2006 at 5:16 pm[...] War Cabinet Infighting: Donald Rumsfeld said he did not know what Condi Rice was talking about when she said last week that the U.S. had made “thousands of tactical errors” in Iraq. “[Y]ou have to constantly adjust and change your tactics. … If someone says, well, that’s a tactical mistake, then I guess it’s a lack of understanding, at least my understanding, of what warfare is about.” [...]
April 6th, 2006 at 8:58 amthe daily show just pegged our “secretary” oh my goodness.
Ms Rice looks not at all at ease nor comfortable with our closest allies from overseas. imagine that. and how embarrassing.
to me, at least.
April 6th, 2006 at 11:08 pm